Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 20:53:50 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: FW: Autoshare/SIMS/Multi-domains and lists
At 02:52 +0100 10/16/98, James Berriman wrote:
>It's when trying to get "listserv" working that I run into trouble.
There's an old "undocumented" (and unsupported) feature at the end of the
documentation, which allows you to enable "listserv" (may be broken by now,
I don't know). In any event, "listserv" sort of "belongs" to the company
LSoft (or whatever they are called).
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 20:57:05 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Eudora & CRON
At 09:55 -0700 10/15/98, Michael Ross wrote:
>This might be a bit off-topic, but I'm trying to use the cron feature of
>AutoShare to send out a monthly text file (which is created by other
>means). So far my thoughts are to write an Applescript to instruct Eudora
>Light to do this.
Or you can use the AutoShare Send Mail AppleScript command to do this.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:46:45 -0600
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Question
Hello,
First, I'm still unable to get Autoshare to use the
mac at camelot.lmms.lmco.com address instead of the mac dot guild at lmco dot com address
(I'm unware of anywhere on the computer that mac.guild at lmco dot com is even
stored anymore).
I have a new question.... when posts are made exceeding the size limit for
the list, they are forwarded to the moderator. I try to post them myself,
and they are still rejected (i.e., forwarded again to the moderator).
Which address is Autoshare looking for to determine if the poster is the
moderator? I was hoping it looked at the Envelope sender. I have two
moderators for the list, separated by commas. Could that be causing the
problem?
Thanks for any help,
Bill
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Subject: Re: Eudora and cron
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 98 15:42:10 -0500
From: Jon & Janelle Gardner <jgardner at kairosnet dot com>
>(If anyone has a script that takes a text file, creates
>the To: and Subject: fields, and queues it up, that would be great!)
set msgFrom to "sender@yadda dot com"
set msgTo to "recipient@yabba dot com"
set msgSubject to "This is the subject."
set msgBody to "This is the body." -- or read in a file, etc.
tell application "Eudora Light"
activate
set nm to make new message at end of mailbox "Out"
set field "From" of nm to msgFrom
set field "To" of nm to msgTo
set field "subject" of nm to msgSubject
set body of nm to msgBody
queue nm
connect with sending without checking
end tell
Jon
<><
Jon & Janelle Gardner <mailto:jgardner at kairosnet dot com> <AOLIM:DaGardners>
Kairos Network Services <http://www.kairosnet.com/kairos/>
PGP public key available at <http://www.kairosnet.com/kairos/pgpkey.html>
...as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord. (Joshua 24:15 NIV)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 01:38:38 +0100
Subject: Re: Question
From: "James Berriman" <J.R.Berriman at staffs.ac dot uk>
Bill wrote:
>I have two moderators for the list, separated by commas. Could that be
>causing the problem?
Yes, you can only have one address. I wondered about that when you posted
part of your analysis file.
( :-]) James
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 08:07:36 -0600
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: Question
At 1:38 AM +0100 on 10/17/98, James Berriman wrote:
> Bill wrote:
>
> >I have two moderators for the list, separated by commas. Could that be
> >causing the problem?
>
> Yes, you can only have one address. I wondered about that when you posted
> part of your analysis file.
>
Okay... I've changed it back to one moderator, and I'll see if it fixes the
problem (although I'd like to have two moderators.... any other way of
having two moderators?).
Mikael, any ideas on why I'm unable to change the reply-to address on the list?
Thanks,
Bill
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:45:57 +0100
Subject: Re: Question
From: "James Berriman" <J.R.Berriman at staffs.ac dot uk>
>Okay... I've changed it back to one moderator, and I'll see if it fixes the
>problem (although I'd like to have two moderators.... any other way of
>having two moderators?).
Have the other moderator use remote email admin?
All they have to do is send the message to AutoShare@ and paste something
like this into the first line:
<password> post <listowner@domain> listname <listowner's name>
( :-]) James
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:23:26 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Question
At 08:07 -0600 10/19/98, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>Mikael, any ideas on why I'm unable to change the reply-to address on the
>list?
Not at this time. I'll take a closer look at the analysis file you sent me.
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:15:40 -0400
From: Jonathan Shaw <jls4 at cwru dot edu>
Subject: Re: Question
>Okay... I've changed it back to one moderator, and I'll see if it fixes the
>problem (although I'd like to have two moderators.... any other way of
>having two moderators?).
You can set the list to subscriber instead of moderated. Then turn off the
posting privelege for everyone and for new users and turn it on only for
the 2 moderators. This works very well except that people must contribute
postings through some other address than the list address.
-Jonathan {;-)
Visit <http://b62968.cwru.edu/> for a good laugh.
There are 3 kinds of people: Those who make things happen, those who watch
things happen and those who wonder what happened.
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:24:07 -0600
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: Question
At 4:15 PM -0400 on 10/19/98, Jonathan Shaw wrote:
> >Okay... I've changed it back to one moderator, and I'll see if it fixes the
> >problem (although I'd like to have two moderators.... any other way of
> >having two moderators?).
>
> You can set the list to subscriber instead of moderated. Then turn off the
> posting privelege for everyone and for new users and turn it on only for
> the 2 moderators. This works very well except that people must contribute
> postings through some other address than the list address.
>
It's already a subscriber list, and subscribers need to have posting
privileges. The moderator is only used for posting contributions which
exceed the posting size limit. Using the remote admin for the 2nd
subscriber suggestion should work fine.
Bill
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:26:22 -0400
From: Cris Mooney <cmooney at jumpdev dot com>
Subject: Re: Question
> any other way of having two moderators?).
I've never set up moderating, so I don't know exactly how it works.
However, should you need two (OR MORE) moderators you are probably able to
have numerous people impersonate the moderator. If you use Eudora, or
another EMail client with personalities, each can configure a personality
to "send" the moderated posts as the one "true" moderator. To pick up
posts, I think you could set up your mail server to use a static list
applied to the moderator account, or redirect through Bigfoot.com or maybe
AutoShare, so each "virtual moderator" gets a copy of the posts submitted
for moderation. But then, how you would avoid two "moderators" accepting
and posting the same moderated post? Perhaps, you all just each want to
pick up the moderators mail (without forking it via a list) directly, and
whomever picks up the mail moderates the messages they get.
Point: it doesn't all need to be done in AutoShare, which is just one
Component in a suite of tools at your disposal.
Regards,
Cris Mooney
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:27:13 +0200
From: Detlef Beyer <d.beyer at crash dot de>
Subject: Java source for text translation
Hi,
anybody knows about Java source to convert different text-encodings (like MIME QP...)?
Det
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 23:21:41 -0400
From: mlists <mlists at ppdirect dot com>
Subject: Autoshare 3.0 Type 2 crashes...
Been running AS 3.0 since it was released... however, now, it crashes with
a Type 2 error as soon as it starts up and initalizes all of the
Preferences. Any ideas? Perhaps AS needs more memory. But I've tried
everything except rebuilding the prefs from scratch only because I can't
even get it to the point of staying up long enough to write down my
settings.
Its running on a G3 with 64MB of Ram, OS 8.1, Web* 3.0.1, NetPresenz, FMPro
4.0.
Any thoughts?
Best Regards,
Jerry Thompson
MIS Director/Webmaster
PP List Management, Inc.
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 06:58:43 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Autoshare 3.0 Type 2 crashes...
At 23:21 -0400 10/19/98, mlists wrote:
>Been running AS 3.0 since it was released... however, now, it crashes with
>a Type 2 error as soon as it starts up and initalizes all of the
>Preferences. Any ideas? Perhaps AS needs more memory. But I've tried
>everything except rebuilding the prefs from scratch only because I can't
>even get it to the point of staying up long enough to write down my
>settings.
>
>Its running on a G3 with 64MB of Ram, OS 8.1, Web* 3.0.1, NetPresenz, FMPro
>4.0.
>
>Any thoughts?
Try starting up AutoShare after having done things such as booting the G3
without extensions or moving the AutoShare preferences folder to another
temporary location. You may also want to run Disk First Aid first.
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 00:05:51 -0500
From: mlists <mlists at ppdirect dot com>
Subject: Re: Autoshare 3.0 Type 2 crashes...
>At 23:21 -0400 10/19/98, mlists wrote:
>
>>Been running AS 3.0 since it was released... however, now, it crashes with
>>a Type 2 error as soon as it starts up and initalizes all of the
>>Preferences. Any ideas? Perhaps AS needs more memory. But I've tried
>>everything except rebuilding the prefs from scratch only because I can't
>>even get it to the point of staying up long enough to write down my
>>settings.
>>
>>Its running on a G3 with 64MB of Ram, OS 8.1, Web* 3.0.1, NetPresenz, FMPro
>>4.0.
>>
>>Any thoughts?
>
>Try starting up AutoShare after having done things such as booting the G3
>without extensions or moving the AutoShare preferences folder to another
>temporary location. You may also want to run Disk First Aid first.
I will try this tomorrow. However, I've noticed that AS 2.4 (or whatever
the latest 2.x version was) also crashes after it loads all of the
Multi-Prefs. However, it crashes with a Type 10 (whatever that is).
Best Regards,
Jerry Thompson
MIS Director/Webmaster
PP List Management, Inc.
http://www.ppdirect.com/
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:43:46 -0600
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: Question
At 5:26 PM -0400 on 10/19/98, Cris Mooney wrote:
> > any other way of having two moderators?).
>
> I've never set up moderating, so I don't know exactly how it works.
> However, should you need two (OR MORE) moderators you are probably able to
> have numerous people impersonate the moderator. If you use Eudora, or
> another EMail client with personalities, each can configure a personality
> to "send" the moderated posts as the one "true" moderator. To pick up
> posts, I think you could set up your mail server to use a static list
> applied to the moderator account, or redirect through Bigfoot.com or maybe
> AutoShare, so each "virtual moderator" gets a copy of the posts submitted
> for moderation. But then, how you would avoid two "moderators" accepting
> and posting the same moderated post? Perhaps, you all just each want to
> pick up the moderators mail (without forking it via a list) directly, and
> whomever picks up the mail moderates the messages they get.
>
> Point: it doesn't all need to be done in AutoShare, which is just one
> Component in a suite of tools at your disposal.
>
Good point.
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From: Jeong-hyun Kim <jhkim at salmosa.kaist.ac dot kr>
Subject: Question about address protection
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:28:59 +0900 (KST)
When a list member sends email to another list member
using the protected@domain address, the "From:" field
of the email header reveals the actual address of the
sender, instead of the token.
Is this normal? I thought it should also be protected...
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 07:24:51 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Question about address protection
At 12:28 +0900 10/22/98, Jeong-hyun Kim wrote:
>When a list member sends email to another list member
>using the protected@domain address, the "From:" field
>of the email header reveals the actual address of the
>sender, instead of the token.
>
>Is this normal? I thought it should also be protected...
>
This is normal. Once we have left the public environment, automated mass
address harvesting becomes unlikely.
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:11:14 -0400
From: Ricardo Davis <ricardo at ustaxpayers dot org>
Subject: "Delivered-To:" Header
Hi all,
I've noted that some list servers actually put the e-mail address of the
person being sent the message in the "Delivered-To:" header. I was
wondering if AutoShare has this capability?
-Ricardo
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:09:34 -0600
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Getting desparate...
I'm still unable to get Autoshare to switch the reply-to from
mac.guild at lmco.com to mac at camelot dot lmms dot lmco dot com. I'm desparate because
soon the mac.guild at lmco dot com is going to disappear, which means that when
people reply to the posts, their replies will be going to an invalid e-mail
address.
Is there anything I can do without having to kill the current list and
re-create it?
Thanks,
Bill
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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 20:31:02 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: "Delivered-To:" Header
At 13:11 -0400 10/23/98, Ricardo Davis wrote:
>I've noted that some list servers actually put the e-mail address of the
>person being sent the message in the "Delivered-To:" header. I was
>wondering if AutoShare has this capability?
No. This only works when sending individual messages to the subscribers.
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 20:34:08 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Getting desparate...
At 12:09 -0600 10/23/98, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>Is there anything I can do without having to kill the current list and
>re-create it?
Configuring a new list doesn't take long. Set up a new test list with the
same settings and a sample list file, and see if this list works. If it
works, delete the old preferences for the list and use the old list file
with the new list preferences; rename as the last step. If it doesn't work,
you can delete the test list as the problem lies elsewhere; have you taken
a closer look at a message file before and after processing? If these
standard things don't work, send me copies of these two message files plus
a copy of your AutoShare Preferences file, put in a folder and StuffIt'ed.
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 18:26:16 +0100
From: Bill Bedford <billbpm at mousa.demon.co dot uk>
Subject: HTML etc
Is there anyway to bounce messages that are formatted as HTML?
If not could I add it to the 'feature request' list?
--
Bill Bedford
Owner Brit_Rail-L list for the history of railways in Britain
Subscribe at autoshare at mousa.demon.co dot uk
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 14:25:51 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: HTML etc
At 18:26 +0100 10/24/98, Bill Bedford wrote:
>Is there anyway to bounce messages that are formatted as HTML?
The Body Filter process extender of type Before Processing does this. For
further details, see my list contribution on July 18.
From: Jerry Thompson <mlists at ppdirect dot com>
Subject: Very Weird Problem...
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:46:19 -0500
Greetings.
It appears that a 4.8MB email sent to one of my lists was the reason AS 3.0
was crashing with Type 2 or 10 errors. Once it was removed, everything ran
smoothly. However, another problem has developed. An email sent to an
announcement list last night has somehow been duplicated 20-30 times. I
came in this morning to find that I had 34 copies of the same email. Some
people reported 14 copies, while others reported 20 copies.
One thing I did notice was that each duplicated email has:
X-Engine: "TFS Engine Release 3.12 Build 132e"
In the HEADER of the emails. Anyone know what this is?
I've deleted the preferences for the one list this affects and rebuilt it.
Just out of curiosity, I changed the Subject header from DJBATTLE to
DJBATTLE.COM. And about 10 minutes ago, I received 8 emails with the
subject:
DJBATTLE.COM: DJBATTLE: Thanks for your support.
So.... somehow there is an email bouncing back and forth causing AS to
resend that email over and over again.
I've shut down AS until I can determine what the problem is. Any suggestions?
Best Regards
Jerry.
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:02:07 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Very Weird Problem...
At 12:46 -0500 10/26/98, Jerry Thompson wrote:
>It appears that a 4.8MB email sent to one of my lists was the reason AS 3.0
>was crashing with Type 2 or 10 errors. Once it was removed, everything ran
>smoothly.
I don't see how this could cause that though. Perhaps a corrupt file?
>However, another problem has developed.
>So.... somehow there is an email bouncing back and forth causing AS to
>resend that email over and over again.
Inspecting both message file forks will most likely tell you why.
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:06:29 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Wacky-ness continues...
Okay, I've tried to recreate the list, this one called mac-guild, in hopes
to fix the reply-to problem. I created the list, and created the
appropriate EIMS accounts. I quit Autoshare and restarted to get a fresh
start. I sent out a test post, and that was all she wrote. Watching the
Autoshare window, it just said "Updating mac-guild archives", but it didn't
seem to be doing anything (it sat in this state for 10 minutes, and still
sits there now). I then tried to quit Autoshare, and nothing. It didn't
quit. All other apps are working fine. The menu system is still working
in Autoshare, but I keep doing a quit, and it keeps insisting on not
quiting. Has anyone ever experienced this before?
Bill
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 18:55:46 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Wacky-ness continues...
Bill
While I'm glad that your further configuration later today apparently took
care of your problems (as noted in your off-list e-mails), I must confess
to having little clue of what's happening on your server!
Date: 27 Oct 98 08:38:43 -0600
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: Strange Autoshare Log Message
I'm suddenly getting information like that below in my Autoshare log. =
What does it mean? It would appear that something is stuck...
Thanks,
Chuck Boody
Analyst/Programmer
ISD 270
=============
Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:06:32 BODY resource of b25a4077: 822 =
ˆ Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:06:34 BODY resource of b25a4077: 822 =
ˆ Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:06:36 BODY resource of b25a4077: 822 =
ˆ Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:06:38 BODY resource of b25a4077: 822 =
ˆ Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:06:40 BODY resource of b25a4077: 822 =
ˆ Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:06:42 BODY resource of b25a4077: 822 =
ˆ Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:06:44 BODY resource of b25a4077: 822 =
ˆ Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:06:46 BODY resource of b25a4077: 822 =
ˆ Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:06:49 BODY resource of b25a4077: 822 =
ˆ Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:06:51 BODY resource of b25a4077: 822 =
ˆ Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:06:53 BODY resource of b25a4077: 822 =
ˆ Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:06:55 BODY resource of b25a4077: 822 =
ˆ Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:06:57 BODY resource of b25a4077: 822 =
ˆ Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:06:59 BODY resource of b25a4077: 822 =
ˆ Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:07:01 BODY resource of b25a4077: 822 =
ˆ Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:07:03 BODY resource of b25a4077: 822 =
ˆ Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:07:05 BODY resource of b25a4077: 822 =
ˆ Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:07:08 BODY resource of b25a4077: 822 =
ˆ Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:07:10 BODY resource of b25a4077: 822 =
ˆ Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:07:12 BODY resource of b25a4077: 822 =
ˆ Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:07:14 BODY resource of b25a4077: 822 =
ˆ Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:07:16 BODY resource of b25a4077: 822 =
ˆ Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:07:18 BODY resource of b25a4077: 822 =
ˆ Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:07:20 BODY resource of b25a4077: 822 =
ˆ Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:07:22 BODY resource of b25a4077: 822 =
ˆ Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:07:24 BODY resource of b25a4077: 822 =
ˆ Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:07:26 BODY resource of b25a4077: 822 =
ˆ Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:07:28 BODY resource of b25a4077: 822
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 07:16:45 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Strange Autoshare Log Message
At 08:38 -0600 10/27/98, Chuck Boody wrote:
>I'm suddenly getting information like that below in my Autoshare log.
>What does it mean? It would appear that something is stuck...
Yes, the BODY resource (an EIMS 2.2 thing) should not be listed more than
once per message file (and I haven't see it before in a log file). If you
still have the message file and/or log file, could you send me a StuffIt'ed
copy? Thanks.
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:23:37 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: Wacky-ness continues...
At 6:55 PM -0800 on 10/26/98, Mikael Hansen wrote:
> Bill
>
> While I'm glad that your further configuration later today apparently took
> care of your problems (as noted in your off-list e-mails), I must confess
> to having little clue of what's happening on your server!
>
Probably a number of things (as explained in the last off-list e-mail I
sent you). Regarding the reply-to problem, do you think there is any
chance that the subscriber alias functionality in Autoshare associated
mac.guild at lmco.com to mac at camelot dot lmms dot lmco dot com in such a way that
everytime it sees mac at camelot.lmms.lmco dot com, it swaps in the
mac.guild at lmco dot com alias? Even with the new list, when I used
mac at camelot.lmms.lmco.com, mac dot guild at lmco dot com got swapped in. When I
switched to a different address, the hard address was used correctly.
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Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:02:36 +0100
From: Detlef Beyer <d.beyer at crash dot de>
Subject: Mail Back sometimes not working
Hello,
I have a mail back account running with Autoshare and this works fine most=
of the time. But sometimes (maybe 1 of 50 users) the mail back does not=
work. The user receives the confirmation msg - and after sending the reply=
they will get a confirmation msg again and again and again...
Seem to be a problem of Lotus Notes and Netscape Mail clients?! Any idea=
whats going wrong?
Det
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 06:56:57 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Mail Back sometimes not working
At 08:02 +0100 10/29/98, Detlef Beyer wrote:
>I have a mail back account running with Autoshare and this works fine most
>of the time. But sometimes (maybe 1 of 50 users) the mail back does not
>work. The user receives the confirmation msg - and after sending the reply
>they will get a confirmation msg again and again and again...
>Seem to be a problem of Lotus Notes and Netscape Mail clients?! Any idea
>whats going wrong?
Odd. If you succeed in reproducing this, drop me a note. Thanks.
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:13:06 +0100
From: Detlef Beyer <d.beyer at crash dot de>
Subject: Re: Mail Back sometimes not working
>Odd. If you succeed in reproducing this, drop me a note. Thanks.
seems that both (Lotus, Netscape) copy the from adress into the first line of the body:
"From: My Name"
can this cause the problem?
Det
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:50:27 +0000
From: James Berriman <J.R.Berriman at staffs.ac dot uk>
Subject: Re: Mail Back sometimes not working
At 15:13 29/10/98, Detlef Beyer wrote:
>seems that both (Lotus, Netscape) copy the from adress into the first line
>of the body:
>
>"From: My Name"
>
>can this cause the problem?
Yes. The confirmation code must be in the first line of the message body.
( :-]) James
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:15:36 +0100
From: Detlef Beyer <d.beyer at crash dot de>
Subject: Re: Mail Back sometimes not working
>Yes. The confirmation code must be in the first line of the message body.
that's sad because both mail clients (Netscape, LotusNotes) set the fist line to "from: blablalbal"... and a lot of people are using NetScape-Mail... but I don't have an idea how to solve this problem...
Det
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:26:37 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Mail Back sometimes not working
At 17:15 +0100 10/29/98, Detlef Beyer wrote:
>but I don't have an idea how to solve this problem...
Add the letter J to the Misc Stuff field, which puts mail-back tokens in
the subject field of the message.
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:52:29 +0100
From: Detlef Beyer <d.beyer at crash dot de>
Subject: Re: Mail Back sometimes not working
Howdy,
I have a somehow difficult problem to solve. I'm using Lasso (a FileMaker CGI) to send a mail to an AutoShare Listserver. The mail is generated by the database and the text contains also html tags like "<b>" or "<ul>".
Does anybody know a way how to send this text as well formated mail and not as something that looks like html source...?!
Det
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 18:03:35 +0100
From: Detlef Beyer <d.beyer at crash dot de>
Subject: Subject wrong - was: Re: Mail Back sometimes not working
P.S.: Sorry - I forgot to change the subject
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:53:41 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: AutoShare 3.0.2b3
The 3.0.2b3 archive has been uploaded to
<ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/>
The archive is partial, but includes everything in the 3.0.1 archive, which
can be skipped if you are at version 3.0 at this time.
3.0.2b3 offers minor improvements and bug fixes, listed in the 3.0.2
section in the documentation. I have also tested the server applications
with Mac OS 8.5 for a week and a half without any problems.
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:55:28 -0800
From: Randall Gellens <Randy at Pensive dot Org>
Subject: <list>-Request Accounts?
I've read through the documentation and the FAQ, and some of the
archives of this list (is there any way to search through the archives?
Reading every one is rather round-about).
Auto-share seems very powerful and quite cool. I've just installed it,
and am trying to figure out how to create the more-or-less-standard
"<list>-request" accounts. In addition to SUBSCRIBE <LIST> and
UNSUBSCRIBE <LIST> commands being sent to "autoshare@domain", and the
very nice "<list>-SUB" and "<list>-UNSUB" addresses, I'd like to create
a "<list>-REQUEST" address for each list, to which users send commands
specific for that list. This is in very common use, and many people
just assume it works.
Any advice on how this can be done?
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 22:51:15 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: <list>-Request Accounts?
At 09:55 -0800 11/4/98, Randall Gellens wrote:
>is there any way to search through the archives?
You can use the search subscriber command to search the standard archives
via e-mail. I don't think James's web archives support searching.
>Auto-share seems very powerful and quite cool.
Thanks :-)
>I've just installed it, and am trying to figure out how to create the
>more-or-less-standard "<list>-request" accounts.
Good suggestion. That'll be in 3.0.2, requiring no configuration.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 20:59:45 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: AutoShare 3.0.2b4
The 3.0.2b4 archive has been uploaded to
<ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/>
3.0.2b4 introduces the <list>-request address syntax.
The following four examples do the same:
To: fun-l-on@domain
To: fun-l-sub@domain
To: fun-l-request@domain
Body: sub
To: autoshare@domain
Body: sub fun-l
The following two examples do the same:
To: fun-l-request@domain
Body: sub Rip Van Winkle
To: autoshare@domain
Body: sub fun-l Rip Van Winkle
The subject may be used instead of the body, if so configured.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:24:49 +0200
From: "Jose A. Accino" <jose.accino at ice.uma dot es>
Subject: Re: AutoShare 3.0.2b4
>The 3.0.2b4 archive has been uploaded to
>
> <ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/>
>
Mikael, the FTP server gives an "anonymous access denied" error.
Any special login/password to get it?
TIA,
JA.
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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 07:11:37 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare 3.0.2b4
At 09:24 +0200 11/6/98, Jose A. Accino wrote:
>Mikael, the FTP server gives an "anonymous access denied" error.
>Any special login/password to get it?
I just tried the anonymous access, and it was fine (at this time!).
When I upload an archive, I also send the archive via e-mail to the
following fine mirror sites (delays are to be expected though as I don't
know in advance when I decide to upload):
<mailto:AutoShare-software at dcl.co dot uk>
<ftp://ftp.cbc.bryan.tx.us/as/>
<http://pascal-central.com/autoshare/beta/>
<mailto:mailit at stumail.hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 09:53:18 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare 3.0.2b4
At 8:59 PM -0800 on 11/5/98, Mikael Hansen wrote:
> The 3.0.2b4 archive has been uploaded to
>
> <ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/>
>
Also mirrored at:
http://pascal-central.com/autoshare/beta
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:06:29 -0800
From: Mark Hartman <mh-list at harthaven dot com>
Subject: Subscription/unsubscription via web page
OK, folks, here's a good one for you.
I'm trying to set up a web page to permit users to subscribe or unsubscribe
to my mailing lists. On the form, they select the list, enter their name
and e-mail address, and click SUBMIT.
There are two ways I can go with this: first, simply send the AppleEvent
to AutoShare to establish the subscription; or, create an e-mail message
to AutoShare properly formatted.
Problems? Sending the AppleEvent gives no security at all (the mail-back
security is bypassed), thus anyone can do anything to anyone; sending the
e-mail message can be confusing to the user, as they then must actually
send the message - and this, believe it or not, seems to be beyond some
of my target audience.
Ideally, there would be a way to have mail-back security even when changing
subscriptions through AppleEvents; this would be the cleanest way of doing
this as far as I can see. Does anyone have any suggestions? Mikael, is
this something that could reasonably be added to AutoShare? (I'm running
SIMS rather than EIMS, but I don't think that that should matter in this
instance.)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:55:39 -0500
From: Jonathan Shaw <jls4 at cwru dot edu>
Subject: Re: Subscription/unsubscription via web page
>I'm trying to set up a web page to permit users to subscribe or unsubscribe
>to my mailing lists. On the form, they select the list, enter their name
>and e-mail address, and click SUBMIT.
[...]
>Ideally, there would be a way to have mail-back security even when changing
>subscriptions through AppleEvents; this would be the cleanest way of doing
>this as far as I can see. Does anyone have any suggestions? Mikael, is
>this something that could reasonably be added to AutoShare? (I'm running
>SIMS rather than EIMS, but I don't think that that should matter in this
>instance.)
I'm using Flexmail to accomplish exactly what you've described. It's just a
cgi application (written in C, not AppleScript -- so it's very speedy and
multi-threaded) that takes the user input and uses it to send an e-mail and
generate an HTML response to the user. You can try this at my web site,
<http://b62968.cwru.edu/> under the Humor link. E-mail me privately if
you'd like a copy of Flexmail and the configuration files I've created for
it. I'm using an extremely outdated version of flexmail, from before it
became commercial software. I'm also running OS 8.5 and it still works
flawlessly.
P.S. Flexmail is based off of John Norstad's Mail Tools package, which is
still freely available source code. You can use his source code and create
your own customized "flexmail" type program fairly easily, if you want to.
The URL is
<ftp://ftp.acns.nwu.edu/pub/jlnstuff/mailtools/mailtools-15.sea.hqx>. Good
luck!
-Jonathan {;-)
Visit <http://b62968.cwru.edu/> for a good laugh.
There are 3 kinds of people: Those who make things happen, those who watch
things happen and those who wonder what happened.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 20:02:17 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Subscription/unsubscription via web page
At 19:55 -0500 11/9/98, Jonathan Shaw wrote:
> I'm using Flexmail to accomplish exactly what you've described.
But does it though? Flexmail doesn't do hand-shaking on the e-mail address,
so you're still asking AutoShare to do mail-back.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 20:53:13 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: AutoShare 3.0.2b5
The 3.0.2b5 archive has been uploaded to
<ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/>
3.0.2b5 fixes prefixed filter entries not being deleted with the Adds
property being false in the SetFilters AppleScript command.
That's a big deal e.g. when using the Vacation process extender sample, to
which I have also added some sample documents to make it easier to use.
This process extender makes it possible for the users to enable their
vacation notice service, disable it and update their vacation notice
message without the assistance of the administrator.
The Documentation HTML file has a few new images to make the Getting
Started section a little more illustrative.