Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 01:40:57 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Big Files are killing Autoshare STILL
At 14:33 -0700 11/30/98, Camelot Administrator wrote:
> Okay, do I need to do to get the results you are getting? I have a "k" in
> the list stuff field, but I'm still having the same problem as before.
I'll look into it.
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 01:55:44 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Moderated list
Chuck <n1msa at maine.rr dot com> wrote:
>>I got that part. Its the forwarding them or whatever with a pw to allow
>>them to post im lost at and cant find documentation on it...
The listmaster address alone (no password needed) lets the message go
straight through to being posted. That is, unless you redirect using a
mailer which preserves the RFC Precedence field, or something else funny is
going on.
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 22:23:28 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: AutoShare 3.0.3b4
The 3.0.3b4 archive has been uploaded to
<ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/>
+Updated CGI sample scripts
+Made the Admin less scriptable Finder dependent
+Applied review bug to all subscriber formats
+Minor changes to the Analysis format
+Optional analysis sections in AppleScript, Admin, remote
+Fixed detaching and reattaching in list contributions
You can now get one or several selected Analysis sections by specifying
section codes, documented in the AppleScript dictionary and the Admin
balloon help. The feature can also be used with remote administration by
e-mail as in "<password> analysis <e-mail> <codes>".
(And because I really like Anarchie, it may be noted that the newly
released Pro version 3.5 is at <http://www.stairways.com/>. Anarchie has
been nominated for a Macworld 1998 Editors' Choice Award for Best Internet
Client Software <http://macworld.zdnet.com/1998/11/15/eddys.html>.)
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 12:08:23 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare 3.0.3b4
At 10:23 PM -0800 on 12/1/98, Mikael Hansen wrote:
> The 3.0.3b4 archive has been uploaded to
>
> <ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/>
>
> +Updated CGI sample scripts
> +Made the Admin less scriptable Finder dependent
> +Applied review bug to all subscriber formats
> +Minor changes to the Analysis format
> +Optional analysis sections in AppleScript, Admin, remote
> +Fixed detaching and reattaching in list contributions
>
> You can now get one or several selected Analysis sections by specifying
> section codes, documented in the AppleScript dictionary and the Admin
> balloon help. The feature can also be used with remote administration by
> e-mail as in "<password> analysis <e-mail> <codes>".
>
Now mirrored at http://pascal-central.com/autoshare/beta.
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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 13:15:13 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Question about body commands
I have a remote administrator who claims that he cannot submit remote
autoshare commands because his e-mail client forces a blank line in the
first line of the body. We asked me if there is a work around. I don't
want to change the list to subject commands, because we have web pages for
other lists that rely on multiple commands in the body.
Can anyone verify that a blank first line in the body would confuse
autoshare? If so, is there a work around? (besides switching to subject
commands)
Thanks,
Bill
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 19:38:10 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Question about body commands
At 13:15 -0700 12/2/98, Camelot Administrator wrote:
> I have a remote administrator who claims that he cannot submit remote
> autoshare commands because his e-mail client forces a blank line in the
> first line of the body.
Chances are that the line is not truly blank. It may contain a space.
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 20:15:25 -0800
From: Mark Hartman <mh-list at harthaven dot com>
Subject: Re: Question about body commands
At 7:38 PM -0800 12/2/1998, Mikael Hansen wrote:
>At 13:15 -0700 12/2/98, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>
>> I have a remote administrator who claims that he cannot submit remote
>> autoshare commands because his e-mail client forces a blank line in the
>> first line of the body.
>
>Chances are that the line is not truly blank. It may contain a space.
IMO, Mikael, white space is white space. Processes looking for commands
in a certain place should always trim leading and trailing white space
first of all; if a line winds up blank after that, then it should be
called blank.
Isolated spaces are not significant, and AS should not count them as such.
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 2 Dec 1998
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 98 23:35:39 -0600
From: Jon & Janelle Gardner <jgardner at kairosnet dot com>
>(And because I really like Anarchie, it may be noted that the newly
>released Pro version 3.5 is at <http://www.stairways.com/>.
Yes, sir! Just registered my copy this morning. Hope nobody has forgotten
the AS mirror at
<ftp://ftp.cbc.bryan.tx.us/as/>
(or <ftp://ftp.cbc.bryan.tx.us/pub/as/> depending on your ftp client)
'cause it's still there!
Jon
<><
Jon & Janelle Gardner <mailto:jgardner at kairosnet dot com> <AOLIM:DaGardners>
Kairos Network Services <http://www.kairosnet.com/kairos/>
PGP public key available at <http://www.kairosnet.com/kairos/pgpkey.html>
...as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord. (Joshua 24:15 NIV)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 22:52:54 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Question about body commands
At 20:15 -0800 12/2/98, Mark Hartman wrote:
>>Chances are that the line is not truly blank. It may contain a space.
>
> IMO, Mikael, white space is white space.
Guess what happens if the line between the RFC header and the message body
is not a blank line, but contains one space?
> Processes looking for commands in a certain place should always trim
> leading and trailing white space first of all;
Trailing space of what exactly? Many commands carry parameters.
> if a line winds up blank after that, then it should be called blank.
For initial lines with remote commands issued (1) remotely, I agree it
would be desirable. The same goes for commands sent to (2) the list server
address or to (3) request addresses. It should even go for messages
resulting from (4) a web form with a mailto action.
My response to Bill was inaccurate btw: (1) is the only one not allowing
any initial blank lines at this time. That comes first.
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 15:23:10 +0100
From: Detlef Beyer <d.beyer at crash dot de>
Subject: Mail Back problem
Hello,
I'm still having problems with the mail-back confirmation. I set a list to
use mail-back for subscribing to the list. I just changed the mailback
reference to be in the subject of the mail (normaly I use commands in the
body) because some mailers change the first line of the reply-mails
(NetScape).
But some users still have to problem that AutoShare sends a new mail-back
msg as the result of the reply the user sends after the first mail-back
mail. They never see the file I get after replying to the mail-back msg -
only mail-back after mail-back...
I use (wich works fine) Eudora 4.1b47, the last not-successfull client was:
Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9)
Any idea what could go wrong here?
Det
P.S.: the subject of this mail was "mailback problem" first - but this
returned:
> ************************************************************
> ATTENTION PLEASE
> Sorry. Your message did NOT get posted or forwarded
> The word MailBack is a list server command
> A list server command must be sent to the list server address
> The list server address is autoshare at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk
> ************************************************************
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 07:05:01 -0800
From: Mark Hartman <mh-list at harthaven dot com>
Subject: Re: Question about body commands
At 10:52 PM -0800 12/2/1998, Mikael Hansen wrote:
>At 20:15 -0800 12/2/98, Mark Hartman wrote:
>
>> IMO, Mikael, white space is white space.
>
>Guess what happens if the line between the RFC header and the message body
>is not a blank line, but contains one space?
Just because the RFCs specify something stupid doesn't mean that we all
have to do it that way.
>> Processes looking for commands in a certain place should always trim
>> leading and trailing white space first of all;
>
>Trailing space of what exactly? Many commands carry parameters.
Any white space characters immediately preceding the newline sequence
should always be trimmed, and any processing that overlaps multiple
lines should treat the newline sequence as whitespace.
>> if a line winds up blank after that, then it should be called blank.
>
>For initial lines with remote commands issued (1) remotely, I agree it
>would be desirable. The same goes for commands sent to (2) the list server
>address or to (3) request addresses. It should even go for messages
>resulting from (4) a web form with a mailto action.
>
>My response to Bill was inaccurate btw: (1) is the only one not allowing
>any initial blank lines at this time. That comes first.
I should point out here, Mikael, that your willingness not only to fix
things in AS which aren't really "bugs" per se, but sometimes only that
which we users find inconvenient, and your willingness to accept the
consensus as "correct" rather than insisting upon a certain way of doing
things, gives me the highest respect for you. Thank you again for this
great product.
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 12:39:10 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Mail Back problem
At 15:23 +0100 12/3/98, Detlef Beyer wrote:
> I use (wich works fine) Eudora 4.1b47, the last not-successfull client was:
>
> Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9)
>
> Any idea what could go wrong here?
It could be that mailer "inserting white space lines in the beginning of
the body" thing again. As this appears to have a rather universal impact on
AutoShare, I am now likely come up with a pre-processing solution deleting
initial white space lines in message files arriving in the Filed Mail
folder. How do you like that?
> P.S.: the subject of this mail was "mailback problem" first - but this
> returned:
>> The word MailBack is a list server command
>> A list server command must be sent to the list server address
This side-effect happens because there's a file or folder, whose name is
MailBack, in the AutoShare folder inside the Documents folder.
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 12:57:51 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: Question about body commands
At 7:38 PM -0800 on 12/2/98, Mikael Hansen wrote:
> At 13:15 -0700 12/2/98, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>
> > I have a remote administrator who claims that he cannot submit remote
> > autoshare commands because his e-mail client forces a blank line in the
> > first line of the body.
>
> Chances are that the line is not truly blank. It may contain a space.
>
In that case, is there any way to have Autoshare skip it and process the
rest of the body?
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 06:47:49 +0100
From: Detlef Beyer <d.beyer at crash dot de>
Subject: Re: Mail Back problem
> It could be that mailer "inserting white space lines in the beginning of
> the body" thing again. As this appears to have a rather universal impact
> on AutoShare, I am now likely come up with a pre-processing solution
> deleting initial white space lines in message files arriving in the Filed
> Mail folder. How do you like that?
sounds nice - let's try it...
Det
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 23:30:31 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Question about body commands
At 07:05 -0800 12/3/98, Mark Hartman wrote:
> Thank you again for this great product.
Thanks!
At 12:57 -0700 12/3/98, Camelot Administrator wrote:
> In that case, is there any way to have Autoshare skip it and process the
> rest of the body?
Try 3.0.3b5d1 at <ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Misc/>. It
should remove initial white space body lines in message files arriving in
the Filed Mail folder.
Date: 04 Dec 98 09:12:43 -0600
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: RE: AutoShare 3.0.3b4
Reply to: RE: AutoShare 3.0.3b4
Autoshare beta 3.0.3b4 is now available by mail. (Though Mikael is already =
talking about something newer!!)
Send mail to:
mailit at stumail.hopkins.k12.mn dot us
with =
Autosharebeta
in the subject.
To check for all currently available copies of autoshare at this site send
mail to
mailit at stumail.hopkins.k12.mn dot us
with
autoshare
in the subject
Please contact me directly if you have any problems with this system.
Chuck Boody
chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us
=======
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 05:29:08 -0500
From: Jan Koudelka <koudelka at appleklub dot cz>
Subject: Reports - suggestion
I have one suggestion for reports generated by AutoShare. Most e-mailers
have ability to download only first n bytes of every e-mail message,
letting user to decide, if he wants to read the whole message. Therefore it
will be very nice if AutoShare can put summary of its reports to the
beginning of message instead of the end.
Would it be possible?
HOnza
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 14:06:47 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: AutoShare 3.0.3b5
The 3.0.3b5 archive has been uploaded to
<ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/>
+Removes initial white space body lines in message files
+Line count blocking is attachment size in K when reattaching
+Application STR# 1087,1 moved to preferences STR# 207,1
+STR# 207,2-3 folder paths copy Filed Mail/Incoming Mail files
+Attachment inserted into digests when reattaching
+Attachment inserted into mail-back on hold when reattaching
+The /=header token may be used in mail-back documents
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:48:16 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: AutoShare 3.0.3b6d1
--============_-1298957983==_ma============
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
The 3.0.3b6d1 archive has been uploaded to
<ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Misc/>
The name of the game is to crash the server using the new IP Info
AppleScript command... E.g.:
tell application "AutoShare"
IP Info
IP Info Options {IP Address: 2.360254988E+9}
IP Info Options {IP Dotted: "140.174.162.12"}
IP Info Options {IP Name: "ftp.dnai.com"}
end application
--============_-1298957983==_ma============
Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii"
The 3.0.3b6d1 archive has been uploaded to
<<ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Misc/>
The name of the game is to crash the server using the new IP Info
AppleScript command... E.g.:
tell application "AutoShare"
IP Info
IP Info Options {IP Address:
<fontfamily><param>Geneva</param><bigger>2.360254988E+9</bigger></fontfamily>}
IP Info Options {IP Dotted: "140.174.162.12"}
IP Info Options {IP Name: "ftp.dnai.com"}
end application
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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 19:33:34 -0800
From: Michael Ross <mross at antigone dot com>
Subject: AutoShare Cron & docs
Hi Michael!
Quick note for the docs.
You devote an entire paragraph explaining why Cron is called Cron, but you
don't mention that you need to restart AutoShare for it to recognize a
newly created alias in the "Launch" folder. I just spent an hour or so
trying to figure out how I screwed up naming the alias, when all I had to
do is quit and relaunch AS!
Thanks!
Michael
---
Michael Ross
Antigone Press, Occidental CA USA
mailto:mross at antigone dot com
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 22:54:39 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare Cron & docs
At 19:33 -0800 12/8/98, Michael Ross wrote:
> You devote an entire paragraph explaining why Cron is called Cron, but you
> don't mention that you need to restart AutoShare for it to recognize a
> newly created alias in the "Launch" folder. I just spent an hour or so
> trying to figure out how I screwed up naming the alias, when all I had to
> do is quit and relaunch AS!
Nope, why would you think so? I started up AutoShare at 22:50,
created a "52 * * * *" alias to BBEdit at 22:51, and BBEdit was
launched at 22:52.
Date: 09 Dec 98 08:28:37 -0600
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: RE: AutoShare 3.0.3b5 available by mail
Reply to: RE: AutoShare 3.0.3b5 available by mail
Autoshare beta 3.0.3b5 is now available by mail. (Though Mikael is already =
talking about something newer!!)
Send mail to:
mailit at stumail.hopkins.k12.mn dot us
with =
Autosharebeta
in the subject.
To check for all currently available copies of autoshare at this site send
mail to
mailit at stumail.hopkins.k12.mn dot us
with
autoshare
in the subject
Please contact me directly if you have any problems with this system.
Chuck Boody
chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 19:09:29 +0000
From: James Berriman <james at dcl.co dot uk>
Subject: [ANNOUNCE] New mailing list for freeware/shareware mac servers
Free-Servers is a new list and has been set up for the cross-product
discussion of Macintosh freeware and shareware server software
exclusively. The list is not a replacement for product-specific lists.
Examples of appropriate topics on the Free-Servers discussion list
are the Macintosh as a server platform using freeware and shareware,
comparisons of software functionality and features as well as
netiquette.
You can subscribe to the Free-Servers list by sending an e-mail to
<free-servers-on at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk>. A message is returned to you
listing your subscription status and also describing in detail the
charter of the list.
( :-]) James
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:58:22 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: [F-S] [ANNOUNCE] New mailing list for freeware/shareware mac
It looks like interesting stuff happens when you send a list
contribution TO one list and CC to another list on the same server.
Something to look into :-)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 12:27:10 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Documentation and searchability
I've been thinking of simplifying the documentation by moving the
Getting Started section to the beginning and moving a number of major
topics to subpages. My questions are then:
-Would this make it easier for you and for newcomers? And why?
-Does this justify giving up the searchability within one document?
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 01:02:31 -0500 (EST)
From: Jonathan Shaw <jls4 at cwru dot edu>
Subject: Re: Documentation and searchability
>I've been thinking of simplifying the documentation by moving the
>Getting Started section to the beginning and moving a number of major
>topics to subpages. My questions are then:
> -Would this make it easier for you and for newcomers? And why?
Yes. You would help alleviate some of the information overload. Right now,
it's like there is a nuclear meltdown going on, you are trying to figure
out where the problem is originating, and there are 3000 sensors all
flashing at once notifying you of minor problems that could possibly be the
major problem you're looking for. (This is a description of what happened
at Three Mile Island. :)
> -Does this justify giving up the searchability within one document?
Offer a search engine for the online edition, and suggest that users use
programs like BBEdit Lite, which allow multiple file searches. Or leave the
documentation in one large file, with a side frame indexing the sections
for quick retrieval without scrolling or hitting the back/forward buttons.
Pictures might help, too. One for each dialog box in both AutoShare and
AutoShare Admin... It might be better to take the stance that everyone will
be using AutoShare Admin, and leave applescripting in an advanced area of
the documentation (towards the end). Hopefully this will leave each section
short, and with few options presented at once (it's hard to make decisions
in software until you are much more comfortable with the program).
-Jonathan {;-)
Visit <http://b62968.cwru.edu/> for a good laugh.
There are 3 kinds of people: Those who make things happen, those who watch
things happen and those who wonder what happened.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 16:42:55 -0800
From: Glenn Gutierrez <kernelg at home dot com>
Subject: Re: Documentation and searchability
At 12:27 -0800 981217, Mikael Hansen wrote:
>I've been thinking of simplifying the documentation by moving the
>Getting Started section to the beginning and moving a number of major
>topics to subpages. My questions are then:
> -Would this make it easier for you and for newcomers? And why?
> -Does this justify giving up the searchability within one document?
Mikael,
I'm trying to remember when I was first setting up Autoshare. I'm also
being honest, so forgive what may be my own density. :) I think the two
biggest problems I faced were references to yet-unknown topics or
sections, and unclear instructions.
The latter could be solved with examples or screen captures, or by
being very strict with terms and locations. Often times, the docs refer
to a parameter that can be in the app itself, or on one of the *many*
pages of the admin program, or a script. That's very frustrating for a
beginner. Especially within the admin program, it's hard to tell
exactly which parameter is being discussed. Then you have to figure out
proper syntax.
Not a big deal, but an example: I still can't tell how to turn off both
the "to post" and "archive" headers on my announce-only list (enter
both numbers, separated by a space?). Examples or pictures would be a
big help.
Segue to the first problem. I can remember looking for that topic,
finding the section, getting there and finding a reference to some
other Applescript or some such (but no hyperlink), going back to the
Table of Contents, not finding the same wording, trying one section,
wrong one, rinse, repeat.
Searching a large document is not my favorite thing to do, simply
because with a general term, it's a quick way to lose track of where
you started. So I'd vote for breaking up sections, but when referring
to another section, either hyperlink it in the HTML version, or repeat
yourself (at least minimally) in the text version. Or give sections
numbers and refer to them that way.
Thanks for listening,
Glenn
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 11:36:41 -0600
From: Andrew Wimmer <wimmer at sofie dot org>
Subject: Handling multiple addresses
I have a question about the way in which AutoShare handles a message that
has more than one address in either the TO or CC lines.
E.g.--list contribution had list address in TO line and multiple addresses
in the CC line. The log shows that it was handled as a contribution, but
the sender received a message that it could not be processed.
E.g.--list contribution had 2 list addresses in the TO line. AutoShare
processed the message to the first list, but did not send the message to
the second list.
What is the correct behavior? Any thoughts on what's happening? I'm
running AutoShare with SIMS.
Thanks, Andrew Wimmer
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 19:33:58 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: AutoShare 3.0.3b6
The 3.0.3b6 archive has been uploaded to
<ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/>
+Added IP Info (IP address lookups) to AppleScript and Admin
+Fixed list contributions with list address not in To field
+Click in status window with option key down for Xmas colors
The last entry is mostly for fun :-)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 19:42:30 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Handling multiple addresses
At 11:36 -0600 12/22/98, Andrew Wimmer wrote:
> I have a question about the way in which AutoShare handles a message that
> has more than one address in either the TO or CC lines.
I haven't tested all of the various combinations, but 3.0.3b6 fixes a
few related issues
> E.g.--list contribution had list address in TO line and multiple addresses
> in the CC line. The log shows that it was handled as a contribution, but
> the sender received a message that it could not be processed.
Could not be processed?
> E.g.--list contribution had 2 list addresses in the TO line. AutoShare
> processed the message to the first list, but did not send the message to
> the second list.
Let me know if this is okay in 3.0.3b6.
Subject: Problems with upgrade to 3.0-HELP!
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 98 12:15:38 -0500
From: Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
I have had, for the first time, some problems with AutoShare, =
starting with my upgrade from version 2 to 3. What I did was go to =
AutoShare, select Times, Now, and OK, both for Archive and Logs. Then =
I verified that archives and digest files used .text and .txt =
extensions. Then I quit Autoshare 2, and started AutoShare 3. After =
starting Autoshare 3, I created 3 new accounts in EIMS 1.2 for work =
accounts (e.g. WORK, WORK.m, WORK.d), then put the working name in =
the work account field in the list window in AS administrator.
The server churned for quite a while after selecting Now. Finally I =
was able to retrieve my email, only to find that a 1.3 mb archive =
file had been created, and sent to all list subscribers! Then I sent =
an apology to the list. When I checked my mail, the apology message =
was never received. I checked the AutoShare screen, and it said the =
file was not processed (filter applied). There are no filters for =
this list as far as I know. Anyway, now nothing at all works. Every =
message or command I send to the list server =
(AutoShare at theombudsman dot com) is ³filtered² out. Any ideas on what =
I am doing wrong, and what I need to change?
A few more bits of info which could help (I obviously don¹t know =
what would help at this point): I have set a web path for automated =
web archives, selecting the path using the button on the =
Administrator window, but no archives have ever been created. No log =
or archive has ever been sent to me since I set this up last April. I =
don¹t know what else to say. Help!
Charles L. Martin
clmartin at theOmbudsman dot com
http://www.theOmbudsman.com/Martin_Law/
Subject: HELP, somebody, Please!
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 98 18:12:16 -0500
From: Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
I don¹t know what to do, but my AutoShare has stopped responding to =
me. After installing version 3.0, it stopped replying to any remote =
administration commands I give. When I look at the Autoshare screen =
on the server, it always says that my mail was not processed (filter =
applied). Yet there are no filters. What does this all mean? Do I =
have to revert back to Autoshare 2? This is no longer funny. Will =
someone please have pity on me? Or is this just as mysterious to =
everyone?
setup:
Apple WGS 6150, 64mb RAM
OS 7.6.1
AutoShare 3.0
WebStar 3.0
EIMS 1.2
NonSequiter 0.9
Net Presentz 4.1
Charles L. Martin
clmartin at theOmbudsman dot com
http://www.theOmbudsman.com/Martin_Law/
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:24:15 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Version 3.0.3 released
This partial archive has been uploaded to
<ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/>
If you haven't upgraded to 3.0, there is a complete 3.0.3 archive at
<ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/AutoShare-More>
A happy New Year to you all :-)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:29:17 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: HELP, somebody, Please!
At 18:12 -0500 12/31/98, Charles L. Martin wrote:
> When I look at the Autoshare screen on the server, it always says
> that my mail was not processed (filter applied). Yet there are no
> filters.
Probably a Precedence of bulk, junk or list. Install 3.0.3, create a
new folder, specify its path with trailing colon in STR# 207,4 of the
AutoShare preferences file (e.g. by using the Admin), so that
filtered files are copied to this folder before they get deleted.
Send me one of those saved files, StuffIt'ed please.
Subject: Er...date problem?
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 99 12:03:22 -0600
From: Jon & Janelle Gardner <jgardner at kairosnet dot com>
What's up with this:
Sent: 1/5/19 2:03 AM (by AutoShare)
Received: 1/1/99 6:09 AM
Using AutoShare 2.3 or 2.4, it apparently thinks that 1999 is actually
1919 for some reason (that, or it's taken 80 years for the email to get
to me). Any clue as to why? Do I just need to upgrade to 3.0, or what?
This happened with AS from two different Macs, so I don't think it's a
system problem.
Thanks,
Jon
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Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:17:29 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Er...date problem?
At 12:03 -0600 1/1/99, Jon & Janelle Gardner wrote:
> What's up with this:
>
> Sent: 1/5/19 2:03 AM (by AutoShare)
> Received: 1/1/99 6:09 AM
>
> Using AutoShare 2.3 or 2.4, it apparently thinks that 1999 is actually
> 1919 for some reason (that, or it's taken 80 years for the email to get
> to me). Any clue as to why?
No clue. Do you see the Sent date in the log, directly in the
processed message file or in a client mailer once it has been through
mail servers?
Date: 04 Jan 99 10:57:22 -0600
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: AutoShare 3.0.3 available by mail
Reply to: AutoShare 3.0.3 available by mail
Current versions of Autoshare and autoshare beta are now available by mail.=
Send mail to
mailit at stumail.hopkins.k12.mn dot us
with
1)Autoshare
in the subject line (to receive notice of the versions currently available =
here)
2) Autosharebeta
in the subject line (to receive the current beta version3.0.3b6)
or =
3) Autoshare3.0.3
in the subject line to recieve version 3.0.3 of the software. This is the =
most current version available.
Please contact
chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us
if you have any problems with this service.
Chuck Boody
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Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 14:42:14 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Autoshare 3.0.3 Mirror
Now also available at
http://pascal-central.com/autoshare/autoshare3.0.3.bin
Cheers,
Bill
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Subject: Why no web archives?
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 99 13:01:17 -0500
From: Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
Does anyone know a reason I would not be getting automated web archives?
I have set a web entry point in the list options by clicking on list in
Admin with the Lists list showing but no list selected. I created the
folder, then clicked on Choose to select it. Then I selected a specific
list, opened its options, and gave a sub folder for it. Yet no web
archives are created. It may be related to the fact that no logs have
ever been sent to me, either.
Charles L. Martin
clmartin at theOmbudsman dot com
http://www.theOmbudsman.com/Martin_Law/
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 16:39:16 -0800
From: Matthew Hill <happytwo at milepost1 dot com>
Subject: Re: Why no web archives?
Hi
This is might be a related problem. Updated to 3.0.3. I now no longer
get digests or logs automatically sent.
Also the files for the sub directory are sent when someone subscribes
but they are not in fact subscribed.
Any ideas.
Matthew
"Charles L. Martin" wrote:
>
> Does anyone know a reason I would not be getting automated web archives?
> I have set a web entry point in the list options by clicking on list in
> Admin with the Lists list showing but no list selected. I created the
> folder, then clicked on Choose to select it. Then I selected a specific
> list, opened its options, and gave a sub folder for it. Yet no web
> archives are created. It may be related to the fact that no logs have
> ever been sent to me, either.
>
> Charles L. Martin
> clmartin at theOmbudsman dot com
> http://www.theOmbudsman.com/Martin_Law/
>
> ** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
> ** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 16:41:44 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Why no web archives?
At 13:01 -0500 1/8/99, Charles L. Martin wrote:
> Does anyone know a reason I would not be getting automated web archives?
> I have set a web entry point in the list options by clicking on list in
> Admin with the Lists list showing but no list selected. I created the
> folder, then clicked on Choose to select it.
It may be that your standard archives are set to Text only, see
Preferences -> Miscellaneous -> Format. The standard HTML archives
are needed for the automated HTML archives. Do your standard archives
get updated properly?
If that's not it, then it may be that your folder structure is set to
Minimal, see Preferences -> More Miscellaneous -> Web Archives. Only
the Complete folder structure works when not specifying a list such
as you did, otherwise the automated web archive files would be
updated on top of each other for the various lists.
From: "William Suarez" <wsuarez at netsilicon dot com>
Subject: RE: Why no web archives?
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 20:09:00 -0500
I seem to have lost digest support and logs as well.
Mikael - any ideas??
Bill Suarez
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Hill [mailto:happytwo at milepost1 dot com]
> Sent: Friday, January 08, 1999 7:39 PM
> To: Subscribers of AutoShare-Talk
> Subject: Re: Why no web archives?
>
>
> Hi
> This is might be a related problem. Updated to 3.0.3. I now no longer
> get digests or logs automatically sent.
> Also the files for the sub directory are sent when someone subscribes
> but they are not in fact subscribed.
> Any ideas.
> Matthew
>
> "Charles L. Martin" wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know a reason I would not be getting automated web archives?
> > I have set a web entry point in the list options by clicking on list in
> > Admin with the Lists list showing but no list selected. I created the
> > folder, then clicked on Choose to select it. Then I selected a specific
> > list, opened its options, and gave a sub folder for it. Yet no web
> > archives are created. It may be related to the fact that no logs have
> > ever been sent to me, either.
> >
> > Charles L. Martin
> > clmartin at theOmbudsman dot com
> > http://www.theOmbudsman.com/Martin_Law/
> >
> > ** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
> > ** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/>
>
>
> ** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
> ** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/>
>
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 20:27:50 -0800
From: Matthew Hill <happytwo at milepost1 dot com>
Subject: CGI
Hi
I have a question on the cgi's supplied with autoshare. How do you set
it up if autoshare is on a different server than the web server?
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:37:17 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: 3.0.4b1 uploaded
At 16:39 -0800 1/8/99, Matthew Hill wrote:
> This is might be a related problem. Updated to 3.0.3. I now no longer
> get digests or logs automatically sent.
> Also the files for the sub directory are sent when someone subscribes
> but they are not in fact subscribed.
At 20:09 -0500 1/8/99, William Suarez wrote:
> I seem to have lost digest support and logs as well.
A silly little bug was introduced in 3.0.3. See
<http://www.dnai.com/~meh/autoshare/postrelease/>
Let me know if this takes care of it.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:42:25 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: CGI
At 20:27 -0800 1/8/99, Matthew Hill wrote:
> I have a question on the cgi's supplied with autoshare. How do you set
> it up if autoshare is on a different server than the web server?
Besides having the standard Program Linking enabled, AppleScripts
call for a special syntax in order to communicate with applications
running on another Mac on the same AppleTalk network. You need what
is referred to as nested tell statements.
tell application "AutoShare" -- reads local copy of dictionary
tell application "AutoShare" of machine "mymachine" of zone "myzone"
-- stuff to do
end tell
end tell
A bit strange at first, but it works.
From: "Suarez, William" <WSuarez at netsilicon dot com>
Subject: RE: 3.0.4b1 uploaded
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:47:44 -0500
Mikael,
I upgraded to the 3.04b1 version and it sent out the logs and digests that
must have been "pending".
Regards,
Bill Suarez
-----Original Message-----
From: Mikael Hansen [mailto:meh at dnai dot com]
Sent: Monday, January 11, 1999 1:37 AM
To: AutoShare-Talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk
Subject: 3.0.4b1 uploaded
At 16:39 -0800 1/8/99, Matthew Hill wrote:
> This is might be a related problem. Updated to 3.0.3. I now no longer
> get digests or logs automatically sent.
> Also the files for the sub directory are sent when someone subscribes
> but they are not in fact subscribed.
At 20:09 -0500 1/8/99, William Suarez wrote:
> I seem to have lost digest support and logs as well.
A silly little bug was introduced in 3.0.3. See
<http://www.dnai.com/~meh/autoshare/postrelease/>
Let me know if this takes care of it.
** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/>
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:55:18 -0800
From: "Michael C. Gilbert" <mcg at halcyon dot com>
Subject: Another web archive mystery
Hi --
Well, I've checked the path and I've set my preferences correctly, I think,
but no HTML archive is being created for a list I just started....
I just read the recent thread on this issue, but to no avail. Can anyone
tell me what steps can I take to troubleshoot this?
TIA
-- Michael
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:18:50 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Another web archive mystery
At 10:55 -0800 1/11/99, Michael C. Gilbert wrote:
> Well, I've checked the path and I've set my preferences correctly, I think,
> but no HTML archive is being created for a list I just started....
>
> I just read the recent thread on this issue, but to no avail. Can anyone
> tell me what steps can I take to troubleshoot this?
You would first want to verify that your standard HTML archives get
updated in the Archives folder, e.g. the Current.html file. Then
re-select the folder path for the automated web archives, using the
Select button in the Admin. Which version are you using?
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:49:43 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Archive Searching
I know this request goes beyond the limits of a listserver, but it really
goes hand-in-hand with it when you think about it.
My primary list is a large mailing list dedicated to supporting the
Macintosh users at Lockheed Martin world wide (in a corporate environment
which is trying to exterminate the Macintosh). The list is used for
evangelizing, but also for technical support. There are requests for help
regarding one thing or another involving Mac hardware or software, and
often these questions have been answered in older posts. The problem is,
it is so difficult to search the archives, the answers are usually
re-invented.
What would be truly awesome is some kind of search page which allows
someone to search the archive files. If this came from a 3rd party
utility, that would be cool, and even better if this were built into
Autoshare some how.
Does anyone have any comments or suggestions? Anyone already doing
something like this right now?
Cheers,
Bill
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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:50:45 -0800
From: "Michael C. Gilbert" <mcg at halcyon dot com>
Subject: Re: Another web archive mystery
At 12:18 -0800 1999.01.11, Mikael Hansen wrote:
* At 10:55 -0800 1/11/99, Michael C. Gilbert wrote:
*
* > Well, I've checked the path and I've set my preferences correctly, I
think,
* > but no HTML archive is being created for a list I just started....
* >
* > I just read the recent thread on this issue, but to no avail. Can anyon=
e
* > tell me what steps can I take to troubleshoot this?
*
* You would first want to verify that your standard HTML archives get
* updated in the Archives folder, e.g. the Current.html file. Then
* re-select the folder path for the automated web archives, using the
* Select button in the Admin. Which version are you using?
Thanks!
Those files are, in fact, getting updated.
Version 2.2.
In fact, I just checked and, for reasons unknown, the html files are now in
place. One problem: They don't go back to the start of the list last week.
Is there a way to re-generate them?
-- Michael