Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 13:51:36 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Problems with AutoShare Admin
At 18:57 +0100 1/3/1998, Sjoerd Jan ter Welle wrote:
>I'm trying to configure a mailinglist or to add a mailing list, but when
>trying to add or change a list in the autoshare admin application I get
>error messages like:
That's a bug in the 2.1 Admin. Download 2.2b1 (server and Admin) from
<ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/>
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 13:39:36 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: AutoShare 2.2b1 uploaded
Version 2.2b1 has been uploaded to
<ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/>
A number of bounce formats are supported in 2.2b1. My thanks to Mr. Boody,
Mr. Berriman and Mr. Shaw.
The big change in 2.2b1 is the AppleScript dictionary implementation of
constant classes, sometimes referred to as enumerations. The Admin has been
fully updated to correspond to this change, so if you don't script, feel
free to skip the rest of this paragraph. Constant classes, which I looked
into and then somehow forgot about way back, are parallels to the Admin's
sets of radio buttons, based on predetermined choices; the list type is an
example of this. Apple's built-in boolean, true or false, may be viewed as
a constant class as well. I urge scripters to take a good look at the
updated AppleScript dictionary as well as the AppleScript Dictionary readme
enclosed in the archive and to stay tuned on the autoshare-dev list.
In order to support the EIMS 2.1 beta requirement for lines terminated with
CR, CRLF and LF, AutoShare 2.2b0 replaced one function with another
function, which does the job, but is also somewhat slower. 2.2b1 undoes the
replacement by using the original faster function in some specific
situations such as reading subscriber list files when for instance
processing some list server requests. It also has an impact when updating
from-to range based subscriber listboxes in the Admin.
A minor Admin bug with the subscriber update button script not applying the
from-to range has been fixed.
Date: 02 Mar 98 08:14:37 -0600
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: RE: AutoShare 2.2b1 uploaded
Mikael Hansen wrote:
>
>The big change in 2.2b1 is the AppleScript dictionary implementation of
>constant classes, sometimes referred to as enumerations. The Admin has =
been
>fully updated to correspond to this change, so if you don't script, feel
>free to skip the rest of this paragraph. =
---------------
Ah, but the Admin is not new on the ftp site! What gives Mikael.
Chuck boody
=============
Date: 02 Mar 98 08:18:03 -0600
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: RE: AutoShare 2.2b1 uploaded Stupid me!
Ignore the message below. Compression of the files was handled =
differently with 2.2b1 than with 2.2b0. My mistake. Everything is there
Chuck Boody
------
Mikael Hansen wrote:
>
>The big change in 2.2b1 is the AppleScript dictionary implementation of
>constant classes, sometimes referred to as enumerations. The Admin has =
been
>fully updated to correspond to this change, so if you don't script, feel
>free to skip the rest of this paragraph. =
---------------
Ah, but the Admin is not new on the ftp site! What gives Mikael.
Chuck boody
=============
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 09:24:36 -0500
From: Richard Klein <klein at furthermedia dot com>
Subject: Re: Importing subscribers
I had written:
>>Is there any way to import a list of names/email addresses into a mailing
>>list? I have to manually subscribe a number of people into a list, and
>>doing it through the Autoshare Admin is extremely slow.
>
Mikael answered:
>When a subscriber is added to a list, the entire file is updated as the
>subscriber must be inserted into the proper location for the list to stay
>sorted. My tests show that AutoShare can update a large file in seconds.
>But if you have a very large file, it'll take a little longer.
>
Well ok, I will try that to speed things up a bit, but I was really looking
for another method. We are compiling a list of email addresses in a
particular industry, and will want to use Autoshare to subscribe them to a
new announcment list. If I already have a database list of a hundred or
more names, I really would prefer not to manually re-enter them, even if I
can get it down to a few seconds each.
I'm suggesting that it would be a useful feature to be able to import (and
export) subscriber lists.
Richard Klein
Director of Internet Services
Further Media, Inc.
Corporate & e-Commerce Web Development
http://www.furthermedia.com
Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 08:11:47 -0800
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: Importing subscribers
At 9:24 AM -0500 on 3/2/98, Richard Klein wrote:
> I had written:
> >>Is there any way to import a list of names/email addresses into a mailing
> >>list? I have to manually subscribe a number of people into a list, and
> >>doing it through the Autoshare Admin is extremely slow.
> >
>
> Mikael answered:
> >When a subscriber is added to a list, the entire file is updated as the
> >subscriber must be inserted into the proper location for the list to stay
> >sorted. My tests show that AutoShare can update a large file in seconds.
> >But if you have a very large file, it'll take a little longer.
> >
>
> Well ok, I will try that to speed things up a bit, but I was really looking
> for another method. We are compiling a list of email addresses in a
> particular industry, and will want to use Autoshare to subscribe them to a
> new announcment list. If I already have a database list of a hundred or
> more names, I really would prefer not to manually re-enter them, even if I
> can get it down to a few seconds each.
>
You can try doing what I did. With the lists already set up, close down
Autoshare. Now manually edit your list of subscribees you want added such
that each line is in the format: e-mail (name..options)
Example:
joe.blow at nowhere dot com (Joe Blow..3)
I believe "..3" is the standard option for mailing list subscription. To
see which options you want to establish, do one subscribee manually with
Admin and then look at the mailing list file in your "LS" folder.
Once you have your list edited, copy the list into your mailing list file
(file by the same name as your mailing list located in your LS folder).
Also copy the list into your .m file. If you want them all to be on
digest, you'll have to change the options and copy the list into the
mailing list file and the .d file (instead of the .m file).
Then start Autoshare back up.
This worked for me. I agree that adding the names in manually with Admin
can be tediously slow.
Bill
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Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 08:23:15 -0800
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: A couple of requests (or maybe just gripes?)
At 12:57 PM -0800 on 2/26/98, Mikael Hansen wrote:
> At 10:04 -0800 26/2/1998, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>
> >Two things that seem to mucky the waters in an otherwise calm and soothing
> >sea of listserver adminstration:
> >
> >1. The slowness of Autoshare Admin.
>
> It is not slow really. It is just that your server application is
> configured to be perhaps too nice in terms of relinguishing processing
> ticks. Try the 2.2b0 Admin, which lowers the server application to zero
> ticks and resets the setting when the Admin is shut down.
>
2.2b1 made a big difference. It's like a different program. Thanks!
> >2. When you quit Autoshare Admin and go back in, it always makes you find
> >Autoshare again.
>
> It shouldn't, unless you have shut down and restarted the server application.
>
What I meant is that when I quit from Autoshare, and then start it back up
and then go into Admin. Why must it forget where it is? And given that it
does, when I choose Lists, it tells me to go find Autoshare, but forgets
that I wanted my lists after it finds it (hence, I must choose Lists
again). This is a trivial annoyance.
Bill
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Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:32:55 +0000
From: James Berriman <J.R.Berriman at staffs.ac dot uk>
Subject: Re: Importing subscribers
At 16:11 2/3/98, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>Also copy the list into your .m file. If you want them all to be on
>digest, you'll have to change the options and copy the list into the
>mailing list file and the .d file (instead of the .m file).
No need for this step. The .m and .d files are created or updated
automatically by AutoShare when a list contribution is processed.
( :-]) James
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:54:03 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Importing subscribers
At 09:24 -0500 2/3/1998, Richard Klein wrote:
>If I already have a database list of a hundred or more names, I really
>would prefer not to manually re-enter them, even if I can get it down
>to a few seconds each.
A script can transfer subscribers from a FileMaker Pro database to a
AutoShare list file.
>I'm suggesting that it would be a useful feature to be able to import (and
>export) subscriber lists.
A script can transfer subscribers from anything scriptable.
If you plan on adding, say, 200 subscribers to a list file of, say, 800,
subscribers, and whether the subscribers are transferred scriptwise or you
have to enter them manually, it may be an option to set up to a temporary
list for the purpose. As this list is empty initially, processing is much
faster, and once you have pasted the contents of the temporary list file
into the proper list file, AutoShare will sort this list at start-up. The
68K version on my 7500 reads, sorts and writes the entire list file in less
than a minute.
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:59:10 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: A couple of requests (or maybe just gripes?)
At 08:23 -0800 2/3/1998, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>Why must it forget where it is?
Because once restarted, it has another process number.
>And given that it does, when I choose Lists, it tells me to go find
>Autoshare, but forgets that I wanted my lists after it finds it
Maybe I can do something about that.
Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 14:40:56 +0000
From: J.R.Berriman at staffs.ac dot uk (James Berriman)
Subject: Full 2.1 package and 2.2b1 beta available at dcl.co.uk
I've put the 2.2b1 update and the full 2.1 package up here:
<http://www.dcl.co.uk/MacOS/email/autoshare/>
It's also available by email at <mailto:autoshare-software at dcl.co dot uk>
( :-]) James
Date: 03 Mar 98 14:45:30 -0600
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: Unresolved bounce Question
Mikael et al,
I'm now running 2.2b1 and still get this message... This should, I would =
think, be removed by the bouncer....
Chuck Boody
Analyst/Programmer
ISD 270
=============
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Date: 3/3/98 2:14 PM
From: bouncer
Text indicates: [] (not subscribed)
Code indicates: [] (not subscribed)
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From: Postmaster at stumail.hopkins.k12.mn dot us
To: bouncer at stumail.hopkins.k12.mn dot us
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:14:11 -0600
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Subject: Undeliverable Mail
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To: HHSmail at hopkins.k12.mn dot us (Subscribers of hhsmail)
From: Kay_McNamee at hopkins.k12.mn dot us (Kay McNamee)
Message-Id: <541168009052173717652 at stumail.hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Stanford Testing: the Building Council approved a plan similar to last
year. On Wednesday (3/25) juniors will be tested during 1st & 2nd block;
sophomores will attend regular classes, and seniors will begin their day
with a 9:30 a.m. senior assembly (regarding graduation) in the Lindbergh
Center. Seniors will then begin the regular schedule at the start of 3rd
block. Dale Searles
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Subject: Unresolved bounce
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:14:25 -0600
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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:41:02 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Unresolved bounce Question
At 14:45 -0600 3/3/1998, Chuck Boody wrote:
>I'm now running 2.2b1 and still get this message... This should, I would
>think, be removed by the bouncer....
>Text indicates: [] (not subscribed)
>Code indicates: [] (not subscribed)
>RFC From is: [Kay_McNamee at hopkins.k12.mn dot us] (does not matter)
>RFC To is: [HHSmail at hopkins.k12.mn dot us] (is a list)
That's odd. I get
Text indicates: [LD_Team at stumail.hopkins.k12.mn dot us] (not subscribed)
Code indicates: [] (not subscribed)
RFC From is: [Kay_McNamee at hopkins.k12.mn dot us] (does not matter)
RFC To is: [chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us] (not a list)
I'll look into it.
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:45:50 +0100
From: Jan Koudelka <koudelka at appleklub dot cz>
Subject: Attachment - where it goes
--============_-1323121231==_============
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Sorry, I am sending a small attachment. Can you please tell me, where I can
find it?
HOnza
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Content-Type: application/mac-binhex40; name="test_attachment"
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="test_attachment"
; modification-date="Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:43:53 +0100"
(This file must be converted with BinHex 4.0)
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:52:15 +0100
From: Jan Koudelka <koudelka at appleklub dot cz>
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 27 Feb 1998
>I had similar problems when I laboriously created my first lists. Then I
>found the solution myself, I told it to the list what I believed was a
>great discovery, and someone answered that any honnest text file should
>always end with a cr. The lesson was good, thanks folks :)
One more advice: If you are using BBEdit, it has an option to always
terminate files by a CR.
HOnza
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:10:17 -0800
From: "Michael C. Gilbert" <mcg at halcyon dot com>
Subject: Why would new subscribers be getting all the old messages?
Pardon the newbie question, but the title says it all.
I just subscribed 500 new people to a announcement list and every one of
them received a 43K message comprised of old messages on the list. And,
well, I wan to stop this.
Advice?
-- Michael
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 19:45:12 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Why would new subscribers be getting all the old messages?
At 15:10 -0800 4/3/1998, Michael C. Gilbert wrote:
>Pardon the newbie question, but the title says it all.
>
>I just subscribed 500 new people to a announcement list and every one of
>them received a 43K message comprised of old messages on the list. And,
>well, I wan to stop this.
The 43K message is likely to stem from the current digest file, whose
substantial size by the way is probably due to the digest interval not
being configured to one or a few days or to many announcements on a daily
basis.
If the 500 new people are digest subscribers, they received the 43K message
when the digests were mailed, at which time the current digest file was
reset to being empty. If they are instead message subscribers, then they
received the 43K message as a partial digest at subscription time depending
on how you subscribed them, and when digest time comes round, the digest
file is emptied. The subscribers will receive the 43K message only once no
matter what.
You can disable the partial digest feature for message subscribers, if you
prefer to do so. Quoting from the 2.1 version notes: "In order to suppress
partial digests with new subscriptions, include the letter e in the List
Stuff field in the Admin's Yet More List window (the List Stuff property in
the AppleScript dictionary's List Options)".
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:06:56 +0100
From: Mats Anderling <mand2 at licr.ki dot se>
Subject: Autoreply Attachments
Hi
Is there any way you can make Autoshare send an Attachment with Autoreply?
The only feature I have found is to send a BinHexed enclosure, but that
does not fill my needs.
What I specifically want to do is to set up an autoreply account that
replies with an attached PDF-file. Most of my users are not Macintoshpeople
and can not be expected to know how to handle a BinHexed enclosure!
regards
--
Mats Anderling
System Administrator
Ludwig Institute For Cancer Research, Stockholm Branch
http://www.licr.ki.se
Date: 05 Mar 98 10:48:11 -0600
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: RE: Autoreply Attachments
If you binhex the pdf file and send it as an attachment most mail clients =
will "unbinhex" it automatically leaving you with the pdf file. So, all =
you need to do is binhex the file and stick it out there properly.
Try it. It works for us.
Chuck Boody
Analyst/Programmer
ISD 270
=============
Mats Anderling wrote:
>Hi
>
>Is there any way you can make Autoshare send an Attachment with Autoreply?=
>The only feature I have found is to send a BinHexed enclosure, but that
>does not fill my needs.
>What I specifically want to do is to set up an autoreply account that
>replies with an attached PDF-file. Most of my users are not =
Macintoshpeople
>and can not be expected to know how to handle a BinHexed enclosure!
>
>regards
>
>--
>Mats Anderling
>System Administrator
>
>Ludwig Institute For Cancer Research, Stockholm Branch
>
>http://www.licr.ki.se
>
>
>
>** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
>** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/AutoShare-Talk/>
>
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>To: autoshare-talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (Subscribers of autoshare-talk)
>From: Mats Anderling <mand2 at licr.ki dot se>
>Subject: Autoreply Attachments
>Message-Id: <526565330049413071600 at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk>
>
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:55:35 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Autoreply Attachments
At 12:06 +0100 5/3/1998, Mats Anderling wrote:
>Most of my users are not Macintoshpeople and can not be expected to know
>how to handle a BinHexed enclosure!
Eudora for Windows happily decodes BinHex on-the-fly. When using a mail
client that cannot do so, check out the freeware StuffIt Expander for
Windows at <http://www.aladdinsys.com>, whose BinHex decoding requires no
more than a single drag and drop.
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:55:08 +0100
From: Mats Anderling <mand2 at licr.ki dot se>
Subject: Re: RE: Autoreply Attachments
>Subject: RE: Autoreply Attachments
>
See what happens when it's easier to ask for help than to think!
Thanks!
--
Mats Anderling
System Administrator
Ludwig Institute For Cancer Research, Stockholm Branch
http://www.licr.ki.se
Date: 06 Mar 98 08:40:05 -0600
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: Admin in bets 2.2b1
Others have reported that the Administrator for Autoshare forgets where =
autoshare is. I have not had that problem until 2.2b1. Now when I run =
the administrator and select any item under any menu I am asked where =
autoshare is. Sometimes I am asked 2 or 3 times before the program will =
go on. If I go to the lists and ask to see an individual subscriber to an =
individual account I am again asked "where is Autoshare" two or more times =
before the individual account opens. After changine somethina a click of =
the Update button will sometimesfreeze the machine.
I have recently moved to a new server, and moved everything (EIMS 2.1b and =
Autoshare 2.2b1 running on a 7200/90 with system 8.0 and OT1.3) onto it. =
However the same problem occurred on the old server before I made the move.=
This problem is making managing of Autoshare through the Administrator =
almost impossible. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
(My first real frustration in almost 4 years of running autoshare....)
Chuck Boody
Analyst/Programmer
ISD 270
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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 07:59:51 -0800
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: A couple of requests (or maybe just gripes?)
At 6:59 PM -0800 on 3/2/98, Mikael Hansen wrote:
> At 08:23 -0800 2/3/1998, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>
> >Why must it forget where it is?
>
> Because once restarted, it has another process number.
>
I understand it needs to re-find the process, but can't it figure out where
the application is on its own? :-)
Bill
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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 22:10:04 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Admin in bets 2.2b1
At 08:40 -0600 6/3/1998, Chuck Boody wrote:
>Others have reported that the Administrator for Autoshare forgets where
>autoshare is. I have not had that problem until 2.2b1. Now when I run
>the administrator and select any item under any menu I am asked where
>autoshare is. Sometimes I am asked 2 or 3 times before the program will
>go on.
This definitely should not happen. The Admin has not changed this way.
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 22:13:01 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: A couple of requests (or maybe just gripes?)
At 07:59 -0800 6/3/1998, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>I understand it needs to re-find the process, but can't it figure out
>where the application is on its own? :-)
I was about to tell you how to avoid the Where dialog box even when both
AutoShare and the Admin have been shut down and restarted, but then I
figured that I'd better save it for tomorrow's tip of the day, so be sure
to subscribe to this list if you already haven't :-)
Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 12:49:54 -0800
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: A couple of requests (or maybe just gripes?)
At 10:13 PM -0800 on 3/6/98, Mikael Hansen wrote:
> At 07:59 -0800 6/3/1998, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>
> >I understand it needs to re-find the process, but can't it figure out
> >where the application is on its own? :-)
>
> I was about to tell you how to avoid the Where dialog box even when both
> AutoShare and the Admin have been shut down and restarted, but then I
> figured that I'd better save it for tomorrow's tip of the day, so be sure
> to subscribe to this list if you already haven't :-)
>
>
Can you remind me how to subscribe? And if I already missed it (which I
probably will since I will not be back to check mail for 6 days), can you
post it to this list also?
Thanks!
Bill
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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 13:18:45 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: A couple of requests (or maybe just gripes?)
At 12:49 -0800 7/3/1998, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>Can you remind me how to subscribe?
See <http://www.dnai.com/~meh/autoshare/index.html#lists>
>And if I already missed it
You have around 3 1/2 hours from now :-)
>can you post it to this list also?
I feel sure the bottomline will surface here too!
Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 00:25:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: Michael C Miller <mcmiller at rosemont dot edu>
Subject: New to AutoShare
Hello,
I am new to AutoShare and have a question. Most parts of the Admin
application seem to work fine until I try to create a new list from the
List button in the Lists... dialog box. I get a message that says there is
an error with <<class PUSH>> Update and a number -2763
I am using OS8.1, EIMS 1.2, PPC 7200/90
I hope to use this on the same server as WebStar and EIMS. Looks like a
great application.
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Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 07:19:46 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: New to AutoShare
At 00:25 -0400 8/3/1998, Michael C Miller wrote:
>I am new to AutoShare and have a question. Most parts of the Admin
>application seem to work fine until I try to create a new list from the
>List button in the Lists... dialog box. I get a message that says there
>is an error with <<class PUSH>> Update and a number -2763
This is fixed in version 2.2b1, which has been uploaded to
<ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/>
Be sure to use the 2.2b1 AutoShare with the 2.2b1 Admin.
The manual way of creating a new list as an alternative is to shut down
AutoShare, create an empty document in the List Server folder and then
restart AutoShare. The latter updates the preferences for the new list.
>I am using OS8.1, EIMS 1.2, PPC 7200/90
And remember to create the needed accounts in EIMS 1.2 too :-)
>I hope to use this on the same server as WebStar and EIMS.
That would certainly be fine.
>Looks like a great application.
Thanks!
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 00:03:40 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: AutoShare 2.2b2 uploaded
Version 2.2b2 has been uploaded to
<ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/>
Well, I finally got down to it. I ripped out the sidetracked code that on
one hand made a list contribution with a large attachment process much
faster by initially deattaching and eventually reattaching it, but on the
other hand could not reattach it unless the format was BinHex. It was a
side road that I once somehow went down while doing something else, MIME I
think it was. In any event, it has been my intent that 2.2b2 doesn't mess
exorbitantly with list contribution bodies, generally something that list
servers really shouldn't be doing. The speed advantage is gone for the time
being as far as large attachments in list contributions are concerned, but
I am at the initial stage of implementing a better way of doing this.
Version 2.2b2 also offers a new AppleScript command entitled RunScript,
whose purpose is to activate a new process extender entitled Script
whenever need be. This comes in particularly handy when a script
application such as the Admin is running remotely and needs to address an
application such as EIMS locally on the AutoShare Macintosh, but doesn't
want to bother with the extra effort of remote scripting.
The Admin in 2.2b2 uses RunScript when creating a new list. Rather than
having the Admin talking to EIMS 2.1 directly (remote support for one
application is enough!) or having AutoShare do it (you can't update the
AutoShare code), your Script process extender does it (is part of the 2.2b2
archive).
From: Jerry Thompson <jthompson at directhit dot com>
Subject: Autoshare quitting...
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 1956 01:09:11 +0000
Greetings,
Something weird is happening. I run Autoshare and it starts up, does its
list stuff, and then it just quits with no type errors. Increasing the
allocated memory doesn't help. It happened all of a sudden today and
nothing was installed which would have corrupted anything.
Jerry.
________________________________________________
Jerry Thompson jthompson at directhit dot com
MIS/Webmaster macguru at directhit dot com
NDPC/PP List Management
- "I have seen a glimpse of the future... It's name is Macintosh."
- "Off the keyboard, thru the router, over the bridge, nothing but net!"
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 01:30:48 +0000
From: james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (James Berriman)
Subject: 2.2b2 at dcl.co.uk
AutoShare 2.2b2 is now also available at the following locations:
<http://www.dcl.co.uk/MacOS/email/autoshare/>
<mailto:autoshare-software at dcl.co.uk?subject=AutoShare-2.2b2 dot sit>
( :-]) James
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:13:06 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Autoshare quitting...
At 01:09 +0000 28/8/1956, Jerry Thompson wrote:
>Something weird is happening. I run Autoshare and it starts up, does its
>list stuff, and then it just quits with no type errors. Increasing the
>allocated memory doesn't help. It happened all of a sudden today and
>nothing was installed which would have corrupted anything.
I noticed your year of 1956. A system related incident perhaps?
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:10:10 +0100
From: Jan Koudelka <koudelka at appleklub dot cz>
Subject: Re: Autoshare quitting...
>At 01:09 +0000 28/8/1956, Jerry Thompson wrote:
>
>>Something weird is happening. I run Autoshare and it starts up, does its
>>list stuff, and then it just quits with no type errors. Increasing the
>>allocated memory doesn't help. It happened all of a sudden today and
>>nothing was installed which would have corrupted anything.
>
>I noticed your year of 1956. A system related incident perhaps?
I noticed this problem on LC 475. I had to use the CW11 compiled version.
HOnza
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:30:03 -0600
From: Paul DuBois <paul at snake dot net>
Subject: Re: Autoshare quitting...
>>At 01:09 +0000 28/8/1956, Jerry Thompson wrote:
>>
>>>Something weird is happening. I run Autoshare and it starts up, does its
>>>list stuff, and then it just quits with no type errors. Increasing the
>>>allocated memory doesn't help. It happened all of a sudden today and
>>>nothing was installed which would have corrupted anything.
>>
>>I noticed your year of 1956. A system related incident perhaps?
>
>I noticed this problem on LC 475. I had to use the CW11 compiled version.
A date of 1956 on a Macintosh usually means your backup battery is dead.
--
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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:12:01 -0500
From: Richard Klein <klein at furthermedia dot com>
Subject: Bounce Account
I have some questions about the bounce account. Can this account be my own
email address, since I administer the list? I ask this because I have set
up an announcement list, and only the bounce account can send mail to the
announce subscribers. It would be more convenient if I could send mail from
my regular email account instead of changing my email send settings to a
different name whenever I need to post an announcement.
One thing I don't understand is that in the docs it recommends that the
bounce account in EIMS be set to Save as Files, but I have not had it set
this way since I started using Autoshare almost 2 years ago. Is this really
necessary?
Also, it says in the docs that Autoshare will send the admin a mail if the
list subscriber could not be located. I have asked this before, but what
designates the "admin"? There is no place in Autoshare that lists an admin
account. I have always assumed that the bounce account was the admin, as
there is no other listing for this.
Thanks for any advice.
Richard Klein
Director of Internet Services
Further Media, Inc.
Corporate & e-Commerce Web Development
http://www.furthermedia.com
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:18:54 +0100
From: Jan Koudelka <koudelka at appleklub dot cz>
Subject: Re: Bounce Account
>Also, it says in the docs that Autoshare will send the admin a mail if the
>list subscriber could not be located. I have asked this before, but what
>designates the "admin"? There is no place in Autoshare that lists an admin
>account. I have always assumed that the bounce account was the admin, as
>there is no other listing for this.
i do not remember the older versions, but in the version 2.1, there are the
following e-mails:
Listserver bounce - this is usually used as a sender, whenever an e-mail is
being sent automatically by AutoShare. If some mail-server automatically
answers such e-mail, it goes to the bounce account. And, if it is set up to
be stored as files in the bounce folder, AutoShare can automatically
process it. For example if some server sends a delivery error message,
AutoShare will sign the mentioned address bouncing.
Listserver admin - this should be read by listserver administrator. Is is
equivalent to the Postmaster account and is usually called Listmaster.
List admin - this is administrator of particular mailing list. It is a part
of workflow on a listserver with many lists. List admin is responsible for
list specific administration work.
HOnza
Date: 10 Mar 98 10:59:08 -0600
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: Re Autoshare administrator "forgetting"
Recently I reported a sudden problem with the administrator forgetting =
where Autoshare is. I had to repeatedly tell it, sometimes as many as 5 =
times to get into the program. I discovered that when I gave the file the =
name "Autoshare" (the way it came) all was well. I had changed the name =
to reflect the beta version. =
Perhaps this is the reason others are having troubles with the =
Administrator "forgetting" where Autoshare is. And, maybe, Mikael can =
change that aspect of the administrator so we can change the program name.
Chuck Boody
Analyst/Programmer
ISD 270
=============
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:54:25 -0400
From: Jerry Thompson <jthompson at directhit dot com>
Subject: Re: Autoshare quitting...
> >Something weird is happening. I run Autoshare and it starts up, does its
> >list stuff, and then it just quits with no type errors. Increasing the
> >allocated memory doesn't help. It happened all of a sudden today and
> >nothing was installed which would have corrupted anything.
>
> I noticed your year of 1956. A system related incident perhaps?
Actually, the motherboard of my Umax J700 was just replaced today so that
may have something to do with the time/date issue. It took the service
tech so long to swap it out, I forgot to reset the date.
Any suggestions on the Autoshare issue as it was occuring before and after
the motherboard switch today.
Jerry
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:39:31 -0500
From: Richard Klein <klein at furthermedia dot com>
Subject: Re: Bounce Account
Jan Koudelka wrote:
>i do not remember the older versions, but in the version 2.1, there are the
>following e-mails:
>
>Listserver bounce - this is usually used as a sender, whenever an e-mail is
>being sent automatically by AutoShare. If some mail-server automatically
>answers such e-mail, it goes to the bounce account. And, if it is set up to
>be stored as files in the bounce folder, AutoShare can automatically
>process it. For example if some server sends a delivery error message,
>AutoShare will sign the mentioned address bouncing.
>
>Listserver admin - this should be read by listserver administrator. Is is
>equivalent to the Postmaster account and is usually called Listmaster.
>
>List admin - this is administrator of particular mailing list. It is a part
>of workflow on a listserver with many lists. List admin is responsible for
>list specific administration work.
I don't know where you are seeing this, but I am running 2.1 and find
exactly one place for an email account, under Misc Prefs, called Address of
the Bounce Account.
Maybe you can tell me where you find those other ones you speak of.
Thanks.
Richard Klein
Director of Internet Services
Further Media, Inc.
Corporate & e-Commerce Web Development
http://www.furthermedia.com
From: Jerry Thompson <jthompson at directhit dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 11 Mar 1998
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:10:37 +0000
At 1:01 AM +0000 3/11/98, AutoShare-Talk list scribbled in cyberspace:
> At 01:09 +0000 28/8/1956, Jerry Thompson wrote:
>
> >Something weird is happening. I run Autoshare and it starts up, does its
> >list stuff, and then it just quits with no type errors. Increasing the
> >allocated memory doesn't help. It happened all of a sudden today and
> >nothing was installed which would have corrupted anything.
>
> I noticed your year of 1956. A system related incident perhaps?
Interesting turn of events. The motherboard replacement I got from Umax
has a dead battery on it. After setting the date correctly, shutting down
the server doesn't retain the date and time. Upon restart, with 1956 as
the date, Autoshare starts up, initializes and then quits quietly.
Correcting the date, and restarting allows Autoshare to work as intended.
Though I get a -1757 error whenever I run the Admin and select any menu
item. So the listserv is running. I just can't change any of my settings.
Jerry.
________________________________________________
Jerry Thompson jthompson at directhit dot com
MIS/Webmaster macguru at directhit dot com
NDPC/PP List Management
- "I have seen a glimpse of the future... It's name is Macintosh."
- "Off the keyboard, thru the router, over the bridge, nothing but net!"
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:12:50 +0100
From: Jan Koudelka <koudelka at appleklub dot cz>
Subject: Re: Bounce Account
>I don't know where you are seeing this, but I am running 2.1 and find
>exactly one place for an email account, under Misc Prefs, called Address of
>the Bounce Account.
>
>Maybe you can tell me where you find those other ones you speak of.
In the Admin, choose the Lists command from the Configurations menu.
If you do not select any list, and click on the List button, you can edit
E-mail address of a Listmaster for the whole list server (the field called
E-mail). If you open exact list the same way, you can set the list-specific
administrator's e-mail address.
HOnza
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:47:33 +0000
From: james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (James Berriman)
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 11 Mar 1998
At 16:10 11/03/98, Jerry Thompson wrote:
>Interesting turn of events. The motherboard replacement I got from Umax
>has a dead battery on it. After setting the date correctly, shutting down
>the server doesn't retain the date and time. Upon restart, with 1956 as
>the date, Autoshare starts up, initializes and then quits quietly.
>Correcting the date, and restarting allows Autoshare to work as intended.
This used to cause a nasty numeric overflow error and a crash as AutoShare
attempted to calculate the time to the next digest (in this case, a large
negative number because your clock thinks it's 1956).
Mikael put in a check for this condition which triggers a quit, since you
really don't want your list server sending out messages datestamped 1956! I
guess it would play havoc with your archives too :-)
I thought that AutoShare actually mailed a warning message to the admin
before quitting, but I suspect that this notification probably only applies
to the low disk-space situation.
( :-]) James
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:18:27 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Bounce Account
At 09:39 -0500 11/3/1998, Richard Klein wrote:
>Jan Koudelka wrote:
>>Listserver bounce -
[...]
>>Listserver admin -
[...]
>>List admin -
[...]
>I don't know where you are seeing this, but I am running 2.1 and find
>exactly one place for an email account, under Misc Prefs, called Address
>of the Bounce Account.
The term "admin" is an often seen abbreviation for the very general term
"administrator". In the AutoShare environment, it merely refers to the
person in charge of running the actual AutoShare server application. This
person is most likely also the main listmaster, which is why the
Miscellaneous dialog box chosen from the Preferences menu in the server
application has the description "Address of the administrator" attached to
the text box, in which the address for the main listmaster is to be
entered. The listmaster address is the one that people write to when they
want to contact the listmaster person.
The address in the text box, whose description is "Address of the bounce
account", is something entirely different. When messages sent by AutoShare
bounce at the receiving mail server, then automated bounces are created and
returned to the AutoShare bounce account. If you don't mind dealing with
all the bounces in a manual fashion, it is fine to configure the bounce
account as a regular personal account. But I highly suggest that you take
advantage of AutoShare's built-in bounce module, thereby saving you a
considerable amount of time. If you choose to do so, configure the bounce
account as a Save As account with the path being a special bounce folder.
While the user interface of the AutoShare server application is not
complete, the Admin (notice the big A!) application's is. The bounce
account is placed in the same location in the Admin as in AutoShare, which
is the Miscellaneous dialog box chosen from the Preferences menu and with
the same description. And the bounce folder for configuring automated
bounces is placed under the More Folders menu selection.
In the Admin however, the listmaster address is configured from the
Configuration menu with the selection being Lists. This is because the
listmaster is a list-specific feature. In the Lists window and having no
list selected in the list box to the left, click on the List button, and
you'll see the main listmaster address. When a list name is selected and
you press the List button (or More list or Yet more list), then the
configuration is applied to the selected list only.
My recommendation is to use a separate mail account for the bounces!
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:45:58 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 11 Mar 1998
At 16:47 +0000 11/3/1998, James Berriman wrote:
>Mikael put in a check for this condition which triggers a quit, since you
>really don't want your list server sending out messages datestamped 1956!
Correct! It is such a long time ago, so I forgot. Jerry, check your log for
the string "please reset your system time!".
Another feature that I implemented later was a special alert box that would
pop up when AutoShare decides to quit on its own. The special thing about
this alert box is that it would disappear after 20 seconds (unless the OK
button was manually pressed before then) and so not be blocking the actual
shutdown. It would seem that I have yet to apply this kind of alert box to
the above situation.
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:58:14 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 11 Mar 1998
At 16:10 +0000 11/3/1998, Jerry Thompson wrote:
>Though I get a -1757 error whenever I run the Admin and select any menu
>item. So the listserv is running. I just can't change any of my settings.
Not using the Admin or AppleScript, that is :-)
-1757 is an API error entitled errOSANoSuchDialect. Which indicates that
you most likely need to reinstall the scripting part of your system.
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:07:53 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Re Autoshare administrator "forgetting"
At 10:59 -0600 10/3/1998, Chuck Boody wrote:
>Perhaps this is the reason others are having troubles with the
>Administrator "forgetting" where Autoshare is.
Yes, that's the reason.
>And, maybe, Mikael can change that aspect of the administrator so we can
>change the program name.
Changing the name of the server application is fine as long as a file,
whose name is "AutoShare" and whose contents is the AppleScript dictionary
identical to that of the server application, is placed is the same folder
as the renamed server application. I usually include such a file with
formal releases aimed at people who run the Admin remotely.
Date: 11 Mar 98 14:47:19 -0600
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: Re: Re Autoshare administrator forgetting
Just to be sure I understand this:
You are saying that if there is a duplicate to the renamed application in =
the same folder with the renamed application and that duplicate is named "=
Autoshare" the Administrator will take its dictionary from there and all =
will be well. Right?
Chuck Boody
Analyst/Programmer
ISD 270
=============
Mikael Hansen wrote:
>At 10:59 -0600 10/3/1998, Chuck Boody wrote:
>
>>Perhaps this is the reason others are having troubles with the
>>Administrator "forgetting" where Autoshare is.
>
>Yes, that's the reason.
>
>>And, maybe, Mikael can change that aspect of the administrator so we can
>>change the program name.
>
>Changing the name of the server application is fine as long as a file,
>whose name is "AutoShare" and whose contents is the AppleScript =
dictionary
>identical to that of the server application, is placed is the same folder
>as the renamed server application. I usually include such a file with
>formal releases aimed at people who run the Admin remotely.
>
>
>
>** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
>** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/AutoShare-Talk/>
>
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>From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
>Subject: Re: Re Autoshare administrator "forgetting"
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:38:07 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Re Autoshare administrator forgetting
At 14:47 -0600 11/3/1998, Chuck Boody wrote:
>Just to be sure I understand this:
>
>You are saying that if there is a duplicate to the renamed application
>in the same folder with the renamed application and that duplicate is
>named "Autoshare" the Administrator will take its dictionary from there
>and all will be well. Right?
It's a funny thing about AppleScript, but yes.
PS: I almost pressed the send button, but should correct myself first: in
the same folder as the *Admin*! Very important :-)
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:10:17 -0500
From: Richard Klein <klein at furthermedia dot com>
Subject: Re: Bounce Account
Mikael wrote:
>In the Admin however, the listmaster address is configured from the
>Configuration menu with the selection being Lists. This is because the
>listmaster is a list-specific feature. In the Lists window and having no
>list selected in the list box to the left, click on the List button, and
>you'll see the main listmaster address. When a list name is selected and
>you press the List button (or More list or Yet more list), then the
>configuration is applied to the selected list only.
>
>My recommendation is to use a separate mail account for the bounces!
Thank you so much. Obviously, I had a great deal of misunderstanding about
this, especially the difference between the preferences in the Admin and
the preferences in the server app. This has now been cleared up. Thanks.
One thing, though, I took your advice and set up a separate bounce account,
and configured it in Autoshare according to instructions. I then noticed in
the EIMS log window that Autoshare was sending messages to about 25
selected names from various lists. What was it sending them? In the
documentation, it does say that Autoshare will send a mail to everyone in
the Bounces on Hold file. Where is this file, and what type of mail is sent
to them. Is this what was happening?
Thanks again.
By the way, does the list-specific admin account email address have to
reflect the domain of the main server, or can it be a sub-domain?
Richard Klein
Director of Internet Services
Further Media, Inc.
Corporate & e-Commerce Web Development
http://www.furthermedia.com