Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 09:21:08 -0800
From: Bill Catambay <admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com>
Subject: Autoshare questions....
Some things I'd like to do, but don't know how to do:
1. I want to be able to subscribe another address from my address. Even
when I set the from field to that address, autoshare still subscribes the
address I'm actually sending from. What can I do?
2. Why does it keep sending me a welcome message when I subscribe to a list
I'm already subscribed to? Is there a way to have it send a message
telling them they are already subscribed?
3. I would like to setup a mailing list such that only a few people can
post to it, but the posts are distributed to everyone on the list. Any
suggestions?
Thanks,
Bill
_____________________________________________________________________
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<http://www.catambay.com/pascal-central>
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Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 13:04:18 -0400
From: "Adam J. Gerstein" <adam at tangentdesign dot com>
Subject: Re: Mailing list problems....
At 12:45 PM -0400 on 4/3/97, james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk wrote:
> Adam J. Gerstein wrote:
> > I've checked everything with the admin program and both of the
> lists are
> > configured the same. I just can't figure out what's going wrong.
>
>
>
> Is your subscription set to ACK? If not, you won't get a copy of your posts.
I'm not the only one not getting the messages. No-one on the list is. Good
thought though....
>
>
> Is it possible that your AIMS accounts for that list are not correctly
> configured? That wouldn't show up in the admin.
I just checked, and they working and non-working accounts are set similarly.
>
>
> ( :-]) James
>
>
>
> ** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
> ** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/AutoShare-Talk/>
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Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 13:35:05 -0500
From: wsuarez at digprod dot com (Bill Suarez)
Subject: Re: Autoshare questions....
Bill,
1. Use the remote admin feature of 1.2 to subscribe someone else to a list. In
fact, you can do just about everything if you need to.
2. If you send a "sub" command, you get the "sub" file back. However, the action
taken by the /sub token should come back and say that your already subscribed.
3. If it's a moderated list only the moderator of the list or the overall admin
can post.
Hope that helps some.....
Bill Suarez
DPI
_______________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Autoshare questions....
From: autoshare-talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk at Internet
Date: 4/3/97 9:21 AM
Some things I'd like to do, but don't know how to do:
1. I want to be able to subscribe another address from my address. Even
when I set the from field to that address, autoshare still subscribes the
address I'm actually sending from. What can I do?
2. Why does it keep sending me a welcome message when I subscribe to a list
I'm already subscribed to? Is there a way to have it send a message
telling them they are already subscribed?
3. I would like to setup a mailing list such that only a few people can
post to it, but the posts are distributed to everyone on the list. Any
suggestions?
Thanks,
Bill
_____________________________________________________________________
Bill Catambay
Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, 5E-35 Webmaster
<http://www.catambay.com/pascal-central>
/>
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** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/AutoShare-Talk/>
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 13:35:59 -0500
From: wsuarez at digprod dot com (Bill Suarez)
Subject: Re: One more question.
Bill,
If you setup a list as a moderated list then ALL posts go to the moderator for
reposting.
Bill Suarez
DPI
_______________________________________________________________________________
Subject: One more question.
From: autoshare-talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk at Internet
Date: 4/3/97 9:22 AM
How do I set the reply-to for the mailing list to point to a different
address than the posting address? (e.g., I want the replies to go to the
moderator, who, in turn, would post the note to the list)
Thanks again,
Bill
_____________________________________________________________________
Bill Catambay
Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, 5E-35 Webmaster
<http://www.catambay.com/pascal-central>
/>
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** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/AutoShare-Talk/>
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 12:59:23 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Autoshare questions....
At 09:21 -0800 4/3/97, Bill Catambay wrote:
>1. I want to be able to subscribe another address from my address. Even
>when I set the from field to that address, autoshare still subscribes the
>address I'm actually sending from. What can I do?
When the listmaster would like to add someone to a list, the first question
may be whether you want the new subscriber to receive a confirmation or
not. The following AppleScript snippets illustrate the difference.
tell application "AutoShare.68k" -- or .ppc
Subscribe List "fun-l" Email "a@b" Name "Bob"
end tell
The above, which is used in the Admin, does not send a notice to the new
subscriber. It's much like editing the main list file directly. As it is
the pure administrator approach, remote administration (list-specific
passwords in future) applies to this. (So will a future administrator web
form.)
tell application "AutoShare.68k" -- or .ppc
File Mail Email "a@b" Name "Bob" Command "subscribe fun-l Bob"
end tell
This script on the other hand creates a message file in the Filed Mail
folder, as if the person had mailed the message with the subscribe command
himself, and so a return notice is mailed. The Admin supports the File Mail
approach too.
--
Mikael Hansen <mailto:meh at dnai dot com>
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 13:13:29 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Autoshare questions....
At 12:59 -0800 4/3/97, Mikael Hansen wrote:
>[...] remote administration [...] applies to this.
Remote administration by e-mail, that is.
>At 09:21 -0800 4/3/97, Bill Catambay wrote:
>
>>1. I want to be able to subscribe another address from my address.
If you have AutoShare properly configured, you can send a mail to
autoshare@yourdomain with the first line of the body being
rosebud subscribe a@b fun-l Bob
--
Mikael Hansen <mailto:meh at dnai dot com>
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 16:10:26 -0800
From: Bill Catambay <admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com>
Subject: Re: Autoshare questions....
At 12:59 PM -0800 on 4/3/97, Mikael Hansen wrote:
> At 09:21 -0800 4/3/97, Bill Catambay wrote:
>
> >1. I want to be able to subscribe another address from my address. Even
> >when I set the from field to that address, autoshare still subscribes the
> >address I'm actually sending from. What can I do?
>
> When the listmaster would like to add someone to a list, the first question
> may be whether you want the new subscriber to receive a confirmation or
> not. The following AppleScript snippets illustrate the difference.
>
> tell application "AutoShare.68k" -- or .ppc
> Subscribe List "fun-l" Email "a@b" Name "Bob"
> end tell
>
> The above, which is used in the Admin, does not send a notice to the new
> subscriber. It's much like editing the main list file directly. As it is
> the pure administrator approach, remote administration (list-specific
> passwords in future) applies to this. (So will a future administrator web
> form.)
>
> tell application "AutoShare.68k" -- or .ppc
> File Mail Email "a@b" Name "Bob" Command "subscribe fun-l Bob"
> end tell
>
> This script on the other hand creates a message file in the Filed Mail
> folder, as if the person had mailed the message with the subscribe command
> himself, and so a return notice is mailed. The Admin supports the File Mail
> approach too.
>
Seems the answer to all my questions is to use the Admin program, but I
can't. And everytime I try to FTP to the site to grab the "complete" admin
program, I get a "user anonymous access denied" error.
Mikael, would you please just e-mail me a stuffed copy of the complete
admin program? It would be most appreciated.
Thanks!
Bill
_____________________________________________________________________
Bill Catambay
Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, 5E-35 Webmaster
<http://www.catambay.com/pascal-central>
/>
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Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 18:56:29 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Autoshare questions....
At 16:10 -0800 4/3/97, Bill Catambay wrote:
>Seems the answer to all my questions is to use the Admin program, but I
>can't. And everytime I try to FTP to the site to grab the "complete" admin
>program, I get a "user anonymous access denied" error.
<ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/AutoShare-More/CompleteAdmin.sit>
appears to be just fine. I just tried.
James, whadda ya say we add the complete Admin to
<mailto:AutoShare-Software at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk>?
>Mikael, would you please just e-mail me a stuffed copy of the complete
>admin program? It would be most appreciated.
Done.
--
Mikael Hansen <mailto:meh at dnai dot com>
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 23:14:54 -0500
From: Robert Gray <rgray at ccs.carleton dot ca>
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 4 Apr 1997
Mikael wrote:
>As I have received a few nice personal e-mails wishing me good luck in the
>future (thanks!), it is hereby stated that the Carlsberg blurb was a hoax.
Well, you got me! and nicely done too. I haven't been so neatly April
Fooled since grade school (I'll be 51 in a week). I bought the thing
completely, you did the detail so well. A tip of the hat ;} And thanks
for the chuckle...
For the record, I moved the Complete Admin (the extension version has never
worked right - 68k thaing) out of the folder containing AutoShare and had
trouble - moved it back problems went away. They are happiest together and
it suits me that way.
TTFN eh?!
Robert Gray * http://www.carleton.ca/~rgray * mailto:rgray at ccs.carleton dot ca
Dept of Psychology * Carleton University * OTTAWA
"...not all those who wander are lost" (J.R.R. Tolkien)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 07:50:53 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 4 Apr 1997
At 23:14 -0500 4/3/97, Robert Gray wrote:
>Well, you got me! and nicely done too.
Thanks :-)
>For the record, I moved the Complete Admin (the extension version has never
>worked right - 68k thaing) out of the folder containing AutoShare and had
>trouble - moved it back problems went away. They are happiest together and
>it suits me that way.
I enjoy "for the record" feedback, especially when I can't reproduce it
myself and so becomes very important. The same folder recommendation will
become a part of the docs. Thanks!
--
Mikael Hansen <mailto:meh at dnai dot com>
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 07:54:29 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Mailing list problems....
At 13:04 -0400 4/3/97, Adam J. Gerstein wrote:
>> Is your subscription set to ACK? If not, you won't get a copy of your posts.
>
>I'm not the only one not getting the messages. No-one on the list is. Good
>thought though....
>>
>>
>> Is it possible that your AIMS accounts for that list are not correctly
>> configured? That wouldn't show up in the admin.
>
>I just checked, and they working and non-working accounts are set similarly.
Adam, did you figure this one out? The envelope information of the messages
in the Incoming Mail folder must match the AIMS accounts for outgoing mail.
--
Mikael Hansen <mailto:meh at dnai dot com>
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 13:41:27 -0800
From: Bill Catambay <admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com>
Subject: Re: Autoshare questions....
At 6:56 PM -0800 on 4/3/97, Mikael Hansen wrote:
> At 16:10 -0800 4/3/97, Bill Catambay wrote:
>
> >Seems the answer to all my questions is to use the Admin program, but I
> >can't. And everytime I try to FTP to the site to grab the "complete" admin
> >program, I get a "user anonymous access denied" error.
>
> <ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/AutoShare-More/CompleteAdmin.sit>
>
> appears to be just fine. I just tried.
>
It didn't work for me yesterday, but it works fine for me now. Hmmm...
perhaps the access denied was caused by too many anonymous connections?
> James, whadda ya say we add the complete Admin to
>
> <mailto:AutoShare-Software at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk>?
>
> >Mikael, would you please just e-mail me a stuffed copy of the complete
> >admin program? It would be most appreciated.
>
> Done.
>
Thanks!
Turns out my other problem was that I didn't have the AppleScript extension
installed (i've never had a need for it before). I installed it, and was
able to get into the Admin program. Now I'll have to go back to the other
notes and see about configuring this list the way I want it.
Thanks again,
Bill
_____________________________________________________________________
Bill Catambay
Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, 5E-35 Webmaster
<http://www.catambay.com/pascal-central>
/>
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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 17:15:46 +0100
From: james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (James Berriman)
Subject: The complete admin
The complete Admin is now available at:
AutoShare-Software at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk, subject: CompleteAdmin.sit
<mailto:AutoShare-Software at frutiger.staffs.ac.uk?subject=CompleteAdmin dot sit>
( :-]) James
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 11:58:15 +0100
From: james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (James Berriman)
Subject: The complete Admin revisited
Well, it appears that NetPresenz helpfully unbinhexed the complete admin
when I uploaded it by FTP the other day. Apologies to those who tried to
retrieve it by mail.
Hopefully, the problem is now solved.
You can also get it from:
<http://www.dcl.co.uk/MacOS/email/autoshare/CompleteAdmin.sit.bin>
(touch wood...)
( :-]) James
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 07:25:25 -0800
From: Bill Catambay <admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com>
Subject: Reply-to, From, To, etc...
I was able to "fool" my other listservers.... why can't I fool AutoShare?
What I mean is that when I change the From field when sending mail out, I
want AutoShare to think it is actually coming from that e-mail. Every
other listserver I've been on has allowed this. Is there a setting in
Admin which will allow me to do this?
Currently, no matter what's in the From field, AutoShare treats the mail as
coming from the address assigned in Eudora settings (which I don't want to
change). What's weird is that when AutoShare sends a reply back to the
address, it puts the "fake" address in the To field, but the reply is sent
to the address assigned in Eudora settings. That really confused me the
first time I saw that.
The reason why I'd like to do this is because I do a lot of things remotely
from different locations. I realize that if I set my list up this way,
than anyone can fool the list, but that should be my choice as the
listserver owner, right?
Anyway, if there's a way to set it up this way, please let me know. Thanks!
Bill
_____________________________________________________________________
Bill Catambay
Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, 5E-35 Webmaster
<http://www.catambay.com/pascal-central>
/>
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Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 11:56:36 -0600
From: Tom Weishaar <TomW at SiteCentral dot com>
Subject: remote admin and set digest
Mikael,
I thought you once said that Remote Admin worked for "set". If so, how
do you enter a two-word command like "set digest"? It seems to take the
second word of the command as the email address.
--
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Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 12:09:13 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Reply-to, From, To, etc...
At 07:25 -0800 4/7/97, Bill Catambay wrote:
>why can't I fool AutoShare?
Because she's smart ;-)
--
Mikael Hansen <mailto:meh at dnai dot com>
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 12:09:26 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: remote admin and set digest
At 11:56 -0600 4/7/97, Tom Weishaar wrote:
> I thought you once said that Remote Admin worked for "set". If so, how
>do you enter a two-word command like "set digest"? It seems to take the
>second word of the command as the email address.
"set" is the command, and "digest" is the option.
Here's a sample of remote administration by e-mail:
rosebud set a@b fun-l ack
--
Mikael Hansen <mailto:meh at dnai dot com>
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 20:25:14 +0100
From: james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (James Berriman)
Subject: Re: Reply-to, From, To, etc...
>I was able to "fool" my other listservers.... why can't I fool AutoShare?
>
>What I mean is that when I change the From field when sending mail out, I
>want AutoShare to think it is actually coming from that e-mail. Every
>other listserver I've been on has allowed this. Is there a setting in
>Admin which will allow me to do this?
Bill,
Can you elaborate? I'm not quite sure what you are trying to do.
AutoShare (and AIMS) relies only on the envelope address for mail routing and identifying the actual sender of a message.
>The reason why I'd like to do this is because I do a lot of things remotely
>from different locations. I realize that if I set my list up this way,
>than anyone can fool the list, but that should be my choice as the
>listserver owner, right?
You can do remote admin by email without changing any addresses. You need to set up a password for your server, then you can issue remote commands like this:
<password> subscribe someone@somewhere autoshare-talk <someone's real name>
Not sure where this is in the docs. Someone want to chip in?
( :-]) James
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 15:52:50 -0800
From: Bill Catambay <admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com>
Subject: Re: Reply-to, From, To, etc...
At 8:25 PM +0100 on 4/7/97, James Berriman wrote:
> >I was able to "fool" my other listservers.... why can't I fool AutoShare?
> >
> >What I mean is that when I change the From field when sending mail out, I
> >want AutoShare to think it is actually coming from that e-mail. Every
> >other listserver I've been on has allowed this. Is there a setting in
> >Admin which will allow me to do this?
>
> Bill,
>
> Can you elaborate? I'm not quite sure what you are trying to do.
>
Two things:
1) Subscribe others to the list (as you mention below)
2) For aliases. For instance, I have an alias for my work account, so I may
want the alias to be subscribed to the list, not the actual address (so
that if I change addresses, the alias continues to point to the working
address).
3) To have multiple addresses at a single location. For example, several
e-mail addresses all are delivered to a single point at home. I use the
different addresses so that mail to those addresses are segregated into
different folders (using Eudora filters). So, although just one address is
assigned to that location in Eudora settings, several addresses will
deliver mail to that address. I'd like to be able to subscribe those other
addresses to the list, _and_ to post from them. Even if I'm able to get
the remote subscribing to work for me (which I haven't yet been able to
do), if I try to post from my home account, it tells me that I'm not
subscribed (because it's looking at my resolved address rather than what I
put in the from field, and it's what I have in the from field which is
subscribed to the list).
I hope this makes sense. I just want the listserver to BELIEVE the from
field. Is that too much to ask? ;)
> AutoShare (and AIMS) relies only on the envelope address for mail routing
>and identifying the actual sender of a message.
>
> >The reason why I'd like to do this is because I do a lot of things remotely
> >from different locations. I realize that if I set my list up this way,
> >than anyone can fool the list, but that should be my choice as the
> >listserver owner, right?
>
> You can do remote admin by email without changing any addresses. You need
>to set up a password for your server, then you can issue remote commands
>like this:
>
> <password> subscribe someone@somewhere autoshare-talk <someone's real name>
>
> Not sure where this is in the docs. Someone want to chip in?
>
I tried this, and it gave me an error:
Invalid list server command: <password I entered>
followed by the subscription welcome message.
I used the password to my Autoshare account. Or should I be using some
other password?
Bill
_____________________________________________________________________
Bill Catambay
Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, 5E-35 Webmaster
<http://www.catambay.com/pascal-central>
/>
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Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 17:38:56 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Reply-to, From, To, etc...
At 15:52 -0800 4/7/97, Bill Catambay wrote:
>I tried this, and it gave me an error:
>
>Invalid list server command: <password I entered>
>
>followed by the subscription welcome message.
>
>I used the password to my Autoshare account. Or should I be using some
>other password?
The section on remote administration by e-mail is at
<http://www.dnai.com/~meh/autoshare/addendum/index.html#remoteadminemail>
This section in the Addendum, also available as part of the 1.2 package,
describes how to configure the password and how to use the feature.
--
Mikael Hansen <mailto:meh at dnai dot com>
Date: Tue, 08 Apr 1997 03:18:25 +0100
From: James Berriman <james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk>
Subject: Re: Reply-to, From, To, etc...
Bill Catambay wrote:
> 2) For aliases. For instance, I have an alias for my work account, so I may
> want the alias to be subscribed to the list, not the actual address (so
> that if I change addresses, the alias continues to point to the working
> address).
If you have a permanent alias address, then you should enter this in Eudora's
Return address: field, which ensures that it is included in the smtp envelope
and recognised by AutoShare. It would also be sensible to use the AIMS server
that runs AutoShare as your smtp host, to avoid the possibility of an
intervening MTA messing with your return address.
As far as posting from multiple email accounts is concerned, you have a
couple of options:
* Subscribe multiple addresses to the list, or
* Edit the return address (rather than the From: address) to reflect the
subscribed address when you post.
( :-]) James
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 07:22:08 -0800
From: Bill Catambay <admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com>
Subject: After I remotely subscribed....
> The section on remote administration by e-mail is at
>
> <http://www.dnai.com/~meh/autoshare/addendum/index.html#remoteadminemail>
>
> This section in the Addendum, also available as part of the 1.2 package,
> describes how to configure the password and how to use the feature.
I went to the web page and it told me to use the SetMisc script. Knowing
nothing about Applescript, I didn't know how to issue the command with the
arguments it asked for, so I double-clicked on the script and it brought me
into the script editor. From there, I simply changed the password,
rosebud, to my own password and then ran the script. That seemed to work.
After that, I did two remote subscribes to the list, and I got a message
back from "b@e (bn)" (I have no idea where it got that address from)
telling me that the subscriptions had been accepted.
I noticed that the new addresses were added to the <list-name> file, but
not to the <list-name>.m file. Is that okay?
Anyway, I then made a post to the list, and got the following response from
the listserver:
>No document available
>Please contact admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com
>
>Welcome to the listserver!
>
>Available AutoShare listserv commands in the body are:
[command listing snipped]
What does this mean? What did I do wrong?
The post was never processsed.
What document is it referring to as not available?
Thanks,
Bill
_____________________________________________________________________
Bill Catambay
Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, 5E-35 Webmaster
<http://www.catambay.com/pascal-central>
/>
// Excalibur: Morgana's Revenge is released!
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Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 07:36:33 -0800
From: Bill Catambay <admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com>
Subject: Re: After I remotely subscribed....
At 7:22 AM -0800 on 4/8/97, Bill Catambay wrote:
> > The section on remote administration by e-mail is at
> >
> > <http://www.dnai.com/~meh/autoshare/addendum/index.html#remoteadminemail>
> >
> > This section in the Addendum, also available as part of the 1.2 package,
> > describes how to configure the password and how to use the feature.
>
> I went to the web page and it told me to use the SetMisc script. Knowing
> nothing about Applescript, I didn't know how to issue the command with the
> arguments it asked for, so I double-clicked on the script and it brought me
> into the script editor. From there, I simply changed the password,
> rosebud, to my own password and then ran the script. That seemed to work.
>
Not! Apparently that's what hosed my list. I found the b@e in there.
Anyway, I used the Admin program to fix things up again. I also found a
place in Admin for setting the password so I don't have to know how to use
AppleScript.
I got it working again.
Cheers,
Bill
_____________________________________________________________________
Bill Catambay
Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, 5E-35 Webmaster
<http://www.catambay.com/pascal-central>
/>
// Excalibur: Morgana's Revenge is released!
(//////[O]>=========================================-
\\ <http://www.catambay.com/morgana>
\>
____________________________________________________________________
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 07:02:59 -0800
From: Bill Catambay <admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com>
Subject: Re: Reply-to, From, To, etc...
At 3:18 AM +0100 on 4/8/97, James Berriman wrote:
> As far as posting from multiple email accounts is concerned, you have a
> couple of options:
>
> * Subscribe multiple addresses to the list, or
Not what I wanted.
> * Edit the return address (rather than the From: address) to reflect the
> subscribed address when you post.
>
The only way I know of doing this is by going into the settings and
changing it. It's much easier to change the From field because you can do
it on the fly, and it is temporary just for that note. Or am I missing
something?
It sounds like you're telling me, though, that there is no way to configure
the list to use the From address field instead of the Return address. :(
_____________________________________________________________________
Bill Catambay
Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, 5E-35 Webmaster
<http://www.catambay.com/pascal-central>
/>
// Excalibur: Morgana's Revenge is released!
(//////[O]>=========================================-
\\ <http://www.catambay.com/morgana>
\>
____________________________________________________________________
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 09:23:10 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: After I remotely subscribed....
At 07:22 -0800 4/8/97, Bill Catambay wrote:
>Knowing nothing about Applescript, I didn't know how to issue the command
>with the arguments it asked for, so I double-clicked on the script [...]
Best to get to know a bit about the tool first! Sorta like testing your
brakes before driving down the hill. I highly recommend that the
documentation be read and understood before diving into unknown waters.
Here's the complete script with the middle line including the command:
tell application "AutoShare.68k" -- or .ppc
SetMisc Misc Options {Remote Password: "rosebud"}
end tell
At 07:36 -0800 4/8/97, Bill Catambay wrote:
>I also found a place in Admin for setting the password so I don't have
>to know how to use AppleScript.
The Admin actually uses a script similar to the above.
Scripting is a wonderful feature, which goes way beyond issuing simple
commands. Many programs do not offer a remote admin application due to lack
of scripting.
--
Mikael Hansen <mailto:meh at dnai dot com>
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 09:37:26 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Reply-to, From, To, etc...
At 07:25 -0800 4/7/97, Bill Catambay wrote:
>What I mean is that when I change the From field when sending mail out, I
>want AutoShare to think it is actually coming from that e-mail.
I suggest that we drop this part of the thread.
I am not in favor of encouraging anyone to fake the sender of a mail using
client e-mail software regardless of the purpose. Please don't do it. If
you insist, please take the topic to discussion lists for client e-mail
software.
AutoShare offers remote administration by e-mail. This is the right way to
get it done when using e-mail.
Thanks.
--
Mikael Hansen <mailto:meh at dnai dot com>
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 07:40:05 -0800
From: Bill Catambay Ðadmin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot comð
Subject: Need more help trouble shooting list
Hi again,
Well, I've got our mailing list officially on Autoshare, but I'm now
experiencing a big problem. Many people are reporting that sometimes they
can post to the list, and other times they get their posts bounced back
saying they are not subscribed. The thing is, they are posting from the
same account without changing any of their settings.
I just tried posting from an account and had my post bounced back saying
that I'm not subscribed. I then came to the listserver, examined both the
list serving files, and the address I posted from is in both lists. And I
have posted from this list before. I'm at a total loss as to why these
posts are being bounced. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Bill
_____________________________________________________________________
Bill Catambay
Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, EIS Webmaster
Ðhttp://www.catambay.com/pascal-centralð
/ð
// Excalibur: Morgana's Revenge is released!
(//////[O]ð=========================================-
\\ Ðhttp://www.catambay.com/morganað
\ð
____________________________________________________________________
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 21:12:50 +0100
From: bill.doucet at avrsb.ednet.ns dot ca (Bill Doucet)
Subject: Using Virtual Domains.
Greetings All
It's been a while since I posted to this list - due to the ease of use of
mailshare I am sure. Something has come up, however, that I need some help
with. I am running a server with several virtual domains ( 14 to be exact
). Several of my clients who use the virtual domains, would like to have
lists set up. I have done this for a few and I'm in the process of testing.
One of the lists is pvnet. I would like for the users to be able to send
messages to pvnet at the virtual domain nova-scotia.com instead of our real
domain - valleyweb.com. Whenever I do this to test it out, however, I get
back a message, from the list address (ie pvnet at nova-scotia dot com) with a "no
document available" message in the body of the letter. Watching the debug
window in AIMS 1.1, I can see that the message is not being processed
through pvnet.m, but is coming through the bounce account.
Is there any way to use the virtual domains?
Looking forward to hearing any suggestions.
Bill Doucet
Bill Doucet
Annapolis Valley Regional School Board
Aldershot College Campus
(902) 678-7542
http;//www.aldershot.nstn.ca
http://www.avrsb.ednet.ns.ca
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 08:37:20 -0700
From: Bill Catambay Ðadmin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot comð
Subject: Need more help trouble shooting list (2)
First, is the AutoShare list working? It's been very quiet, and I never
did receive a reply to the first note. I do have some more information to
provide:
When I examine the users in AutoShare Admin, some of the users I can click
on with no problem, but some of them yield the following error message:
An error occurred while executing the script of ÐÐclass LISTðð
"subscribers": Can't get ÐÐclas cNmeðð of {}. (-1728)
What does this mean? Could this be the reason users cannot post? How do I
fix this? Help please.
Bill
ÐÐ start of forwarded material ðð
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 08:40:05 -0700
To: AutoSharePost
From: Bill Catambay Ðadmin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot comð
Subject: Need more help trouble shooting list
Cc:
Bcc:
X-Attachments:
Hi again,
Well, I've got our mailing list officially on Autoshare, but I'm now
experiencing a big problem. Many people are reporting that sometimes they
can post to the list, and other times they get their posts bounced back
saying they are not subscribed. The thing is, they are posting from the
same account without changing any of their settings.
I just tried posting from an account and had my post bounced back saying
that I'm not subscribed. I then came to the listserver, examined both the
list serving files, and the address I posted from is in both lists. And I
have posted from this list before. I'm at a total loss as to why these
posts are being bounced. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Bill
ÐÐ end of forwarded material ðð
_____________________________________________________________________
Bill Catambay
Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, EIS Webmaster
Ðhttp://www.catambay.com/pascal-centralð
/ð
// Excalibur: Morgana's Revenge is released!
(//////[O]ð=========================================-
\\ Ðhttp://www.catambay.com/morganað
\ð
____________________________________________________________________
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:07:40 -0400
From: wsuarez at digprod dot com (Bill Suarez)
Subject: Re: Need more help trouble shooting list (2)
Bill,
Sounds to me like you swapped the "username" and "email address" values when you
entered someone in the list.
Open up the "list" with a text editor and manually validate the entries. I'll
bet you find that you've got some backwards somewhere in there.
Bill Suarez
_______________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Need more help trouble shooting list (2)
From: autoshare-talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk at Internet
Date: 4/15/97 8:37 AM
First, is the AutoShare list working? It's been very quiet, and I never
did receive a reply to the first note. I do have some more information to
provide:
When I examine the users in AutoShare Admin, some of the users I can click
on with no problem, but some of them yield the following error message:
An error occurred while executing the script of ÐÐclass LISTðð
"subscribers": Can't get ÐÐclas cNmeðð of {}. (-1728)
What does this mean? Could this be the reason users cannot post? How do I
fix this? Help please.
Bill
ÐÐ start of forwarded material ðð
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 08:40:05 -0700
To: AutoSharePost
From: Bill Catambay Ðadmin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot comð
Subject: Need more help trouble shooting list
Cc:
Bcc:
X-Attachments:
Hi again,
Well, I've got our mailing list officially on Autoshare, but I'm now
experiencing a big problem. Many people are reporting that sometimes they
can post to the list, and other times they get their posts bounced back
saying they are not subscribed. The thing is, they are posting from the
same account without changing any of their settings.
I just tried posting from an account and had my post bounced back saying
that I'm not subscribed. I then came to the listserver, examined both the
list serving files, and the address I posted from is in both lists. And I
have posted from this list before. I'm at a total loss as to why these
posts are being bounced. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Bill
ÐÐ end of forwarded material ðð
_____________________________________________________________________
Bill Catambay
Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, EIS Webmaster
Ðhttp://www.catambay.com/pascal-centralð
/ð
// Excalibur: Morgana's Revenge is released!
(//////[O]ð=========================================-
\\ Ðhttp://www.catambay.com/morganað
\ð
____________________________________________________________________
** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
** Ðhttp://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/AutoShare-Talk/ð
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 13:36:15 -0700
From: Steve van Mossel Ðstevev at weq.gov.bc dot cað
Subject: AutoShare Admin
Is there any AutoShare Admin documentation and/or an Admin user guide
available any where?
---------------------------------------------------------
Steve van Mossel Network Analyst
Ministry of Women's Equality (250) 953-3431
Ðmailto:stevev at weq.gov.bc dot cað
Ðhttp://www.weq.gov.bc.ca/ð
---------------------------------------------------------
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 18:08:59 +0100
From: Jerry Thompson Ðjthompson at directhit dot comð
Subject: Bounce domain
Greetings,
Finally got all of our lists switched over to the latest flavor of
AutoShare. Is there a way that the bounce account's domain can be modified?
For example:
tech-talk at companya dot com
hallebop-talk at companyb dot com
But the bounce account is (by default, I assume) designated with our actual
domain name of DIRECTHIT.COM. We would like to modify it so that it
reflects the domain name of the lists.
Is this possible?
Thanks.
Jerry
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 16:58:32 -0700
From: Steve van Mossel Ðstevev at weq.gov.bc dot cað
Subject: list, and .m text files
Can anyone tell me if these 2 files should have the same list of recipients
or not.
Mine are out-of-synch, and it is confusing me.
cheers,
steve
---------------------------------------------------------
Steve van Mossel Network Analyst
Ministry of Women's Equality (250) 953-3431
Ðmailto:stevev at weq.gov.bc dot cað
Ðhttp://www.weq.gov.bc.ca/ð
---------------------------------------------------------
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:22:10 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen Ðmeh at dnai dot comð
Subject: Re: Need more help trouble shooting list
At 08:37 -0700 4/15/97, Bill Catambay wrote:
ðFirst, is the AutoShare list working? It's been very quiet, and I never
ðdid receive a reply to the first note.
It was quiet during the weekend, but that's about it. I myself was out of
town from Sat to Tue, with no access to e-mail.
At 07:40 -0800 4/14/97, Bill Catambay wrote:
ðMany people are reporting that sometimes they
ðcan post to the list, and other times they get their posts bounced back
ðsaying they are not subscribed. The thing is, they are posting from the
ðsame account without changing any of their settings.
This makes little sense. You are the first to report this.
At 14:07 -0400 4/15/97, Bill Suarez wrote:
ðSounds to me like you swapped the "username" and "email address" values
ðwhen you entered someone in the list.
ð
ðOpen up the "list" with a text editor and manually validate the entries.
ðI'll bet you find that you've got some backwards somewhere in there.
Or did you edit some entries manually in a text editor?
At 08:37 -0700 4/15/97, Bill Catambay wrote:
ðWhen I examine the users in AutoShare Admin, some of the users I can click
ðon with no problem, but some of them yield the following error message:
ð
ð An error occurred while executing the script of ÐÐclass LISTðð
ð "subscribers": Can't get ÐÐclas cNmeðð of {}. (-1728)
ð
ðWhat does this mean? Could this be the reason users cannot post? How do I
ðfix this? Help please.
It would seem that not subscribers are stored in the right format. Please
verify the format ("e-mail (name[..Ðoptionsð])") for each subscriber in the
list.
--
Mikael Hansen Ðmailto:meh at dnai dot comð
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:21:43 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen Ðmeh at dnai dot comð
Subject: Re: Using Virtual Domains.
At 21:12 +0100 4/14/97, Bill Doucet wrote:
ðI would like for the users to be able to send messages to pvnet at the
ðvirtual domain nova-scotia.com instead of our real domain - valleyweb.com.
Add nova-scotia.com to the AutoShare domains, and it should be okay when
subscribers use nova-scotia.com.
--
Mikael Hansen Ðmailto:meh at dnai dot comð
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:25:05 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen Ðmeh at dnai dot comð
Subject: Re: list, and .m text files
At 16:58 -0700 4/15/97, Steve van Mossel wrote:
ðCan anyone tell me if these 2 files should have the same list of
ðrecipients or not.
ð
ðMine are out-of-synch, and it is confusing me.
I'm pretty sure that the documentation tells the story that .m and .d files
are created from scratch whenever list contributions or digests take place.
Non-digest subscribers are placed in the *.m*essage file, and digest
subscribers are placed in the *.d*igest file.
--
Mikael Hansen Ðmailto:meh at dnai dot comð
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:20:08 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen Ðmeh at dnai dot comð
Subject: Re: Bounce domain
At 18:08 +0100 4/15/97, Jerry Thompson wrote:
ðFinally got all of our lists switched over to the latest flavor of
ðAutoShare. Is there a way that the bounce account's domain can be modified?
ð
ðFor example:
> tech-talk@companya dot com
> hallebop-talk@companyb dot com
ð
ðBut the bounce account is (by default, I assume) designated with our actual
ðdomain name of DIRECTHIT.COM. We would like to modify it so that it
ðreflects the domain name of the lists.
Very important: the domain in the bounce address must be the actual domain;
this is the one way that AutoShare knows about the actual domain.
The bounce address is used in the hidden envelope sender, so I am not sure
about the need to let it reflect another domain.
--
Mikael Hansen Ðmailto:meh at dnai dot comð
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:19:02 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen Ðmeh at dnai dot comð
Subject: Re: AutoShare Admin
At 13:36 -0700 4/15/97, Steve van Mossel wrote:
ðIs there any AutoShare Admin documentation and/or an Admin user guide
ðavailable any where?
There is relatively little specifically on the Admin in the Addendum (see
also the stuff on scripting and list-specific configuration) and also a bit
in the Post release notes. The major part is the ballon part within the
Admin itself.
What would you like to know?
--
Mikael Hansen Ðmailto:meh at dnai dot comð
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:01:25 +0100
From: jose.accino at ice.uma dot es (Jose A. Accino)
Subject: User unable to post
We are currently running four lists. As far as I know, are going without
problems,
but I just found that one user is unable to post to one list. Looking at the
AutoShare log, it shows a post sent by user 'juanfc at lcc.uma dot es' to the list
'macusers at ice.uma dot es', and also the AIMS log shows an entry for the post
received,
but doesn't show the message being forwarded to all members of the list, so =
we
have not received it.
However, other users and myself are actually able to post and receive them.
I was using AutoShare 1.1 and just to be sure I upgraded to 1.2, but the pro=
blem
is still there. Michael, If you need it I can send you the recent 'fat' log
including the latest three posts: two arrived fine (from myself and another
user) and a third failed (from the user shown above).
Any help about where to look to solve the problem?
José Alfonso.
AutoShare Log
*************
===== AutoShare Log Report, Tue, 15 Apr 1997 00:00:05 =====
=
== New log starting up Mon, 14 Apr 1997 00:00:02 ==
Copying Log.Generic at Mon, 14 Apr 1997 00:00:12
ˆ Mon, 14 Apr 1997 20:57:56 macusers.m at ice.uma.es juanfc at lcc dot uma dot es=
Fastest Mac
AIMS log
********
from juanfc at lcc.uma dot es lun., 14 abri 1997 20:57:26 9.8K
150.214.57.7 v03020900af782a25d9f3 at [150.214.108 dot 88]
to macusers at ice.uma dot es
sent juanfc at lcc.uma dot es lun., 14 abri 1997 20:58:03 10.3K
150.214.40.73 Ðunknownð
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jose Alfonso Accino jose.accino at ice.uma dot es
I.C.E. Universidad de Malaga http://www.ice.uma.es/
Bulevar Louis Pasteur, s/n Phone: +34-5-213 29 44
29071 MALAGA Fax: +34-5-213 29 45
España/Spain
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:14:23 +0100
From: jose.accino at ice.uma dot es (Jose A. Accino)
Subject: Re: User unable to post
ðWe are currently running four lists. As far as I know, are going without
ðproblems,
ðbut I just found that one user is unable to post to one list. Looking at th=
e
As always, just sent the message the solution becomes clear... The user
was not using to send the posts the same username he used to register...
JA.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jose Alfonso Accino jose.accino at ice.uma dot es
I.C.E. Universidad de Malaga http://www.ice.uma.es/
Bulevar Louis Pasteur, s/n Phone: +34-5-213 29 44
29071 MALAGA Fax: +34-5-213 29 45
España/Spain
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:56:46 +0100
From: james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (James Berriman)
Subject: Re: Need more help trouble shooting list (2)
At 16:37 15/4/97, Bill Catambay wrote:
ðWell, I've got our mailing list officially on Autoshare, but I'm now
ðexperiencing a big problem. Many people are reporting that sometimes they
ðcan post to the list, and other times they get their posts bounced back
ðsaying they are not subscribed. The thing is, they are posting from the
ðsame account without changing any of their settings.
If their settings are unchanged, and some of their posts make it through
normally, then it sounds like an MTA somewhere is changing their envelope
address. Are these people always posting from the same client machine/mail
server combination?
( :-]) James
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 08:08:42 -0400
From: wsuarez at digprod dot com (Bill Suarez)
Subject: Re: list, and .m text files
Steve,
The "list" file is what I call the "master". You modifiy this list when users
are added, deleted, modified, etc. The .m file is what used to send a message
out to the non-digest subscribers (and the .d list is the digest list). If there
out of sync, I bet you'll find the "missing" entries from the .m file in the .d
file as they are digest users.
In addition, the .m file won't be "updated" until a message goes to be posted to
the list in question. At that time AutoShare runs a check to ensure who's on the
"list" file get onto the .m and .d files correctly....right Mikael??
Regards,
Bill Suarez
_______________________________________________________________________________
Subject: list, and .m text files
From: autoshare-talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk at Internet
Date: 4/15/97 4:58 PM
Can anyone tell me if these 2 files should have the same list of recipients
or not.
Mine are out-of-synch, and it is confusing me.
cheers,
steve
---------------------------------------------------------
Steve van Mossel Network Analyst
Ministry of Women's Equality (250) 953-3431
Ðmailto:stevev at weq.gov.bc dot cað
Ðhttp://www.weq.gov.bc.ca/ð
---------------------------------------------------------
** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
** Ðhttp://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/AutoShare-Talk/ð
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 08:43:32 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen Ðmeh at dnai dot comð
Subject: EIMS, formerly AIMS :-)
The future is looking bright. Version 1.1.2 of the Eudora Internet Mail
Server, formerly the Apple Internet Mail Server, formerly MailShare, may be
downloaded from
Ðftp://ftp.eudora.com/quest/mac/servers/eudora_ims/eims112.sit.hqxð
The difference between AIMS 1.1.1 and EIMS 1.1.2 is bug fixes, which are
documented in a readme file included in the archive.
--
Mikael Hansen Ðmailto:meh at dnai.comð Ðhttp://www.dnai dot com/~meh/autoshare/ð
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 08:50:21 -0700
From: Bill Catambay Ðadmin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot comð
Subject: Re: list, and .m text files
At 4:58 PM -0700 on 4/15/97, Steve van Mossel wrote:
ð Can anyone tell me if these 2 files should have the same list of recipients
ð or not.
ð
ð Mine are out-of-synch, and it is confusing me.
ð
ð cheers,
ð steve
ð
I've noticed that my main list has all the recipients, the .m list has the
normal recipients (i.e. non-digests), and the .d list has the digest
recipients. It could just be a coincidence.
Bil
_____________________________________________________________________
Bill Catambay
Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, EIS Webmaster
Ðhttp://www.catambay.com/pascal-centralð
/ð
// Excalibur: Morgana's Revenge is released!
(//////[O]ð=========================================-
\\ Ðhttp://www.catambay.com/morganað
\ð
____________________________________________________________________
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 08:57:46 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen Ðmeh at dnai dot comð
Subject: Re: list, and .m text files
At 08:08 -0400 4/16/97, Bill Suarez wrote:
ðIn addition, the .m file won't be "updated" until a message goes to be
ðposted to the list in question. At that time AutoShare runs a check to
ðensure who's on the "list" file get onto the .m and .d files correctly
ð....right Mikael??
You are right on target, Bill :-) At contribution and digest time,
AutoShare takes a tour through all of the subscribers in the main list file
and creates fresh .m and .d files based on the options of the subscribers
and then hands over the message file to AIMS. Or EIMS, I should say :-)
--
Mikael Hansen Ðmailto:meh at dnai dot comð
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:03:24 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen Ðmeh at dnai dot comð
Subject: Re: User unable to post
At 10:14 +0100 4/16/97, Jose A. Accino wrote:
ðAs always, just sent the message the solution becomes clear... The user
ðwas not using to send the posts the same username he used to register...
At 10:56 +0100 4/16/97, James Berriman wrote (in another thread):
ðIf their settings are unchanged, and some of their posts make it through
ðnormally, then it sounds like an MTA somewhere is changing their envelope
ðaddress. Are these people always posting from the same client machine/mail
ðserver combination?
AutoShare 1.3 will offer an option, which allows the admin to choose
whether subscriber addresses are to be based on the envelope sender or the
RFC From. Each approach has its pros and cons, so it's up to you, dear
admins.
--
Mikael Hansen Ðmailto:meh at dnai dot comð
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:13:44 -0700
From: Bill Catambay Ðadmin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot comð
Subject: Re: Need more help trouble shooting list (2)
At 2:07 PM -0400 on 4/15/97, Bill Suarez wrote:
ð Bill,
ð
ð Sounds to me like you swapped the "username" and "email address" values
ðwhen you
ð entered someone in the list.
ð
ð Open up the "list" with a text editor and manually validate the entries. I'll
ð bet you find that you've got some backwards somewhere in there.
I just verified the lists.... every entry in the list is in the format:
email_address (user_name)
No swapping was done.
Any other ideas?
_____________________________________________________________________
Bill Catambay
Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, EIS Webmaster
Ðhttp://www.catambay.com/pascal-centralð
/ð
// Excalibur: Morgana's Revenge is released!
(//////[O]ð=========================================-
\\ Ðhttp://www.catambay.com/morganað
\ð
____________________________________________________________________
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:24:32 -0700
From: Bill Catambay Ðadmin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot comð
Subject: Re: Need more help trouble shooting list
At 11:22 PM -0700 on 4/15/97, Mikael Hansen wrote:
ð At 07:40 -0800 4/14/97, Bill Catambay wrote:
ð
ð ðMany people are reporting that sometimes they
ð ðcan post to the list, and other times they get their posts bounced back
ð ðsaying they are not subscribed. The thing is, they are posting from the
ð ðsame account without changing any of their settings.
ð
ð This makes little sense. You are the first to report this.
ð
Something weird went on, and I still have no clue what happened. In the
beginning, users could post, but now they cannot. So to clarify the above,
they were able to post to the list in the beginning, but not any more (the
text from above indicates that maybe it was going back and forth, but I
don't think that's the case).
ð At 14:07 -0400 4/15/97, Bill Suarez wrote:
ð
ð ðSounds to me like you swapped the "username" and "email address" values
ð ðwhen you entered someone in the list.
ð ð
ð ðOpen up the "list" with a text editor and manually validate the entries.
ð ðI'll bet you find that you've got some backwards somewhere in there.
ð
ð Or did you edit some entries manually in a text editor?
ð
I did open the list up with a text editor, but I cannot remember whether I
made any changes... I think I did to the user names (in parenthesis).
Would that cause a problem?
ð At 08:37 -0700 4/15/97, Bill Catambay wrote:
ð
ð ðWhen I examine the users in AutoShare Admin, some of the users I can click
ð ðon with no problem, but some of them yield the following error message:
ð ð
ð ð An error occurred while executing the script of ÐÐclass LISTðð
ð ð "subscribers": Can't get ÐÐclas cNmeðð of {}. (-1728)
ð ð
ð ðWhat does this mean? Could this be the reason users cannot post? How do I
ð ðfix this? Help please.
ð
ð It would seem that not subscribers are stored in the right format. Please
ð verify the format ("e-mail (name[..Ðoptionsð])") for each subscriber in the
ð list.
ð
I did this. All the users are of the format email_address (username).
Only one of them has options set in the format email_address (username..1).
Examining the problem some more, I have found that the first 9 addresses
are okay, and the 10th address in the list gets the above script error.
All addresses after that get the error as well, except for the last address
which is the only digest subscribed address. That might indicate the
problem is in the .m file, but I keep looking at it, and nothing seems
wrong about it.
What can I do to fix this?
Thanks,
Bill
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Bill Catambay
Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, EIS Webmaster
Ðhttp://www.catambay.com/pascal-centralð
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 12:27:29 -0400
From: wsuarez at digprod dot com (Bill Suarez)
Subject: Re: EIMS, formerly AIMS :-)
DPI is already up and running on 1.1.2 and it's solid so far.
It reads the existing Internet Mail Server prefernces just fine.
Bill
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Subject: EIMS, formerly AIMS :-)
From: autoshare-talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk at Internet
Date: 4/16/97 8:43 AM
The future is looking bright. Version 1.1.2 of the Eudora Internet Mail
Server, formerly the Apple Internet Mail Server, formerly MailShare, may be
downloaded from
Ðftp://ftp.eudora.com/quest/mac/servers/eudora_ims/eims112.sit.hqxð
The difference between AIMS 1.1.1 and EIMS 1.1.2 is bug fixes, which are
documented in a readme file included in the archive.
--
Mikael Hansen Ðmailto:meh at dnai.comð Ðhttp://www.dnai dot com/~meh/autoshare/ð
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