Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:02:13 +0800
Subject: Re: Attachment Encoding
From: "Derek Tom" <derek at bbdo.com dot hk>
I wrote:
>>1) Why is it Mac mailers like Eudora Pro and MS Outlook Express don't
>>support MIME encoding (they only support BinHex, UUencode, AppleDouble,
>>AppleSingle)? Does it have something to do with Mac files' resource fork =
or
>>8-bit file properties?
"Serge Belleudy-d'Espinose" <sam at ijm.jussieu dot fr> replied:
>MIME is not an encoding format for attachments, like stuffit, it's a way o=
f
>telling what's inside a mail. Keep in mind that whatever you send via mail=
,
>it's sent in the body itself in only one part. So the MIME header - and a
>couple of separators - tell 'this part is plain text, this part must be
>processed as a stuffit archiveŠ'
>MIME also helps identify 'foreign' charsets, like the famous iso 8859-1 I
>use when I write in my native french.
Thanks very much for explaining MIME to me! I was quite confused but am I'm
very clear on it now!
Thanks again for your time!
Cheers,
Derek
.............................
Derek Tom
IT Manager
BBDO Asia Pacific
<mailto:derek at bbdo.com dot hk>
<http://derek.bbdo.com.hk/>
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 21:59:52 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Attachment Encoding
>At 13:14 21/7/98, Derek Tom wrote:
>Which version of AutoShare are you using? Older versions removed
>attachments from list contributions. I think this limitation was
>removed in AutoShare 2.3.
The limitation was not with detaching, but rather with re-attaching, so I
undid this way of going about it at that time. The dust has then since
settled, and I might one day re-enable the detachment part as an option for
admins, which prefer attachments not being posted to their lists. Removing
attachments has been with the archives for a long time btw.
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 17:05:16 +0100
From: Sterling Ledet <sjledet at ledet dot com>
Subject: Facespan problem
Everything has been running fine on my Autoshare listserv for months. Now,
however, whenever I try to run Admin I get an error messge saying "Facespan
extension is missing, would not open, or is too old of a version." Can't
think of anything I've changed on my Mac that could be causing this. Any
suggestions?
Sterling Ledet & Associates ph.404-325-3338
2176 Heritage Drive
Atlanta, GA 30345 http://www.ledet.com
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 20:58:06 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Facespan problem
At 17:05 +0100 7/25/98, Sterling Ledet wrote:
>Everything has been running fine on my Autoshare listserv for months. Now,
>however, whenever I try to run Admin I get an error messge saying "Facespan
>extension is missing, would not open, or is too old of a version." Can't
>think of anything I've changed on my Mac that could be causing this. Any
>suggestions?
It may be that the QuickTime and QuickTime PowerPlug extensions are not
installed. For further details, see the documentation at
Running the server
Interfaces
AutoShare Admin application
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 23:39:54 +0200
From: Jan Koudelka <koudelka at appleklub dot cz>
Subject: Re: Roll-your-own email files
> I trust there's a reason for not just using a regular e-mail client?
>
>Speaking for myself, SPEED is the biggest reason.
Another: stability!
If some application (daemon etc.) needs to send some e-mail, using only
file commands makes it independent on the current state (runnig/frozen/...)
of mailserver application.
BTW, you may find usefull that current version of SIMS can automacically
generate missing required RFC headers, such as Date or Message-Id. So, you
can use only the following text, and your e-mail will be successfully sent:
---
From: daemon at mydomain dot com
To: admin at mydomain dot com
Subject: Daily report
Nothing special today, sir...
---
That's all, SIMS will add all necessary headers.
HOnza
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 14:19:20 -0800
From: milo at arcus dot org (Milo Sharp)
Subject: Feature/bugfix request
I'm not sure what categories these fall under: whether it should be
bug fixes or new features.
First of all, I've created a process extender (based on the Log
Entry sample that came with Autoshare) that just writes a line into the log
to notify me when someone has successfully subscribed or unsubscribed. I
use a bullet in mine so I can easily find any occurences of it in the log.
This works great for keeping track of who has subscribed. Unfortunately,
when I or one of my co-workers remotely subscribe someone, it lists them
has having subscribed to the list, instead of the person who has actually
been added. Is there any way around this? I only handle about half of the
remote subscriptions (I've got our Filemaker Pro database set up to handle
sending the subscription email automatically when our executive assistant
clicks a button), so it is somewhat inconvenient to not be able to tell who
she has subscribed or unsubscribed.
Secondly, I've switched to using a Filemaker Pro database to handle
my web archives of past submissions to our mailing list. I'd love to be
able to write a process extender which would automatically add any list
submissions to the database, but in looking through the documentation, it
doesn't seem like the body of the message is ever passed to the process
extenders. Is this even possible?
Aside from that, Autoshare is working great -- now. A somewhat
steep learning curve, but for a free product, Autoshare is plenty powerful
and well worth the investiture of time learning to set it up. Keep up the
good work, Mikael.
Milo Sharp
Technical Assistant, ARCUS
Email: milo at arcus dot org
Phone: 907/474-1602
Fax: 907/474-1604
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 21:08:15 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Feature/bugfix request
At 14:19 -0800 7/27/98, Milo Sharp wrote:
> First of all, I've created a process extender (based on the Log
>Entry sample that came with Autoshare) that just writes a line into the log
>to notify me when someone has successfully subscribed or unsubscribed. I
>use a bullet in mine so I can easily find any occurences of it in the log.
>This works great for keeping track of who has subscribed. Unfortunately,
>when I or one of my co-workers remotely subscribe someone, it lists them
>has having subscribed to the list, instead of the person who has actually
>been added. Is there any way around this?
There are at least four ways to add a subscriber: (1) the subscriber using
the subscribe list server command, (2) the listmaster using remote
administration by e-mail, (3) the listmaster using scripting, (4) the
listmaster editing the list file directly.
The Subscribe process extender sample entitled Write Log is aimed at (1)
only. If you want to take (2) into account, some distinction needs to
addressed, e.g. searching for the word "Remote" in the subject and perhaps
also looking up the third word of the first body line for the subscriber
address. Fetching the "remote" subscriber address is however most easily
achieved by a process extender of type Remote; there's a Write Log sample
for that one as well.
> Secondly, I've switched to using a Filemaker Pro database to handle
>my web archives of past submissions to our mailing list. I'd love to be
>able to write a process extender which would automatically add any list
>submissions to the database, but in looking through the documentation, it
>doesn't seem like the body of the message is ever passed to the process
>extenders. Is this even possible?
While the body of the message file isn't passed to the process extender,
the absolute path of it is. That is enough for AppleScript, and some
process extender samples show how to extract the body from a message file.
set kFolderPath to item 1 of aList
set kFileName to item 2 of aList
set myFilePath to kFolderPath & kFileName
> Aside from that, Autoshare is working great -- now. A somewhat
>steep learning curve, but for a free product, Autoshare is plenty powerful
>and well worth the investiture of time learning to set it up. Keep up the
>good work, Mikael.
Thanks!
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:07:46 -0700
From: Richard James <rjames at KiaOra dot com>
Subject: Admin password? what, where?
I am attemtping to setup a list that someone other than myself can be the
"listmom" for.
While reading the docs, I come across refernces to the administrator
address and password.
I am unable to find out where the admin user and password are configured.
Can someone help?
I admit the price is more than right so I can't complain about that. I
would be willing to pay something for some readable documentation. No
offense intended, but, the structure/language of the docs make for
challenging reading.
Thanks,
rj
________________________________________________
Richard James Internet, LAN and Systems Consulting
Kia Ora Associates Los Altos, CA USA
RJames at KiaOra dot com
It appears that Sprint PCS stands for Poor Cellular Service
I recommend avoiding Sprint as a cellular phone service provider
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 15:04:14 -0700
From: Richard James <rjames at KiaOra dot com>
Subject: Admin password? what, where? Part 2
I have found where the admin and bounce accounts are setup. Is this admin
account the admin for all lists run on this particualr Mac?
I'd like for Dan to be able to send sub/unsub email or web form requests
for his list only. Is there a way that I can give him access to his list(s)
only?
Also, I am playing with the web forms in the samples folder, in particular
the one by James Berriman, Autoshare Administration Form. I have Webstar
2.1 setup on the same mac running EIMS 2.1 and autoshare 2.4. I have
limited mail relay to local domains plus 3 others. When I try to sub myself
via the web form on another Mac I get "...<autoshare at domain dot com>...we do
not relay...." My address configured in my web browser is one of those
domains permitted to relay.
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks in advance for any and all help.
rjames wrote the following:
I am attemtping to setup a list that someone other than myself can be the
"listmom" for.
While reading the docs, I come across refernces to the administrator
address and password.
I am unable to find out where the admin user and password are configured.
Can someone help?
I admit the price is more than right so I can't complain about that. I
would be willing to pay something for some readable documentation. No
offense intended, but, the structure/language of the docs make for
challenging reading.
Thanks,
rj
________________________________________________
Richard James Internet, LAN and Systems Consulting
Kia Ora Associates Los Altos, CA USA
RJames at KiaOra dot com
It appears that Sprint PCS stands for Poor Cellular Service
I recommend avoiding Sprint as a cellular phone service provider
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 18:49:45 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Admin password? what, where?
At 14:07 -0700 7/30/98, Richard James wrote:
>I am attemtping to setup a list that someone other than myself can be the
>"listmom" for.
>I am unable to find out where the admin user and password are configured.
The admin doesn't log into the AutoShare server per se, so it's not like
configuring the user and password fields for a mail account. You have
probably guessed that it's a list-specific matter though, so Command-L(ist)
in the Admin, select the list name, click the List button, find the E-mail
and Name fields at the top of the window. This configures someone else to
be the admin for that list. Keep in mind that if you had clicked the List
button without having selected a list first, you get the default
configuration for your lists.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 18:57:49 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Admin password? what, where? Part 2
At 15:04 -0700 7/30/98, Richard James wrote:
>I'd like for Dan to be able to send sub/unsub email or web form requests
>for his list only. Is there a way that I can give him access to his list(s)
>only?
As far as doing subscribe and unsubscribe via remote administration by
e-mail, this is where the password comes in, so Command-L(ist) in the
Admin, select the list name, click the List button, find the Remote
Password field. This enables Dan to do remote stuff for his list only.
>Also, I am playing with the web forms in the samples folder, in particular
>the one by James Berriman, Autoshare Administration Form.
He should probably respond to this one. Eh, James? :-)
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 01:29:17 +0000
From: Michael Hambly <michael at mayo-ireland dot ie>
Subject: Re: mailing list
I just want to set up AutoShare to send out a monthly newsletter. However
the e-mails don't come in the form recommended:
<address>(<name>) but all kinds of options as collected from e-mails when
people write to me.
I'm assuming I can't use Autoshare, am I right? (I know I could go to the
trouble of setting it up and trying but time. . . .)
Just a yes or no will do me.
Thanks
Michael
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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 18:18:41 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: mailing list
At 01:29 +0000 8/1/98, Michael Hambly wrote:
>I just want to set up AutoShare to send out a monthly newsletter. However
>the e-mails don't come in the form recommended:
>
><address>(<name>) but all kinds of options as collected from e-mails when
>people write to me.
>
>I'm assuming I can't use Autoshare, am I right? (I know I could go to the
>trouble of setting it up and trying but time. . . .)
>
>Just a yes or no will do me.
No, the required subscriber format is <address>[ (<name>)].
Copying and pasting addresses manually doesn't take long though.
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 13:32:17 +0200
From: Detlef Beyer <d.beyer at hermes dot de>
Subject: Localization
Hi,
I installed AutoShare yesterday and I'm really happy with this nice software.
At the moment I have to small problems left:
- there are still some text parts that I can't find and localize. Mostly text that is produced by tokens like /=sub. is there any way to put in my german text?
- I played a round with the poll autoresponder - but I didn't manage to build up my own poll. I allways receive a vote with US states in...?!
Thanks for any help.
Detlef
<CHILE IMAGES> http://www.hermes.de/chile/ </CHILE IMAGES>
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 11:06:23 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Localization
At 13:32 +0200 8/1/98, Detlef Beyer wrote:
>I installed AutoShare yesterday and I'm really happy with this nice software.
Thanks :-)
>- there are still some text parts that I can't find and localize. Mostly
>text that is produced by tokens like /=sub. is there any way to put in
>my german text?
Not yet. I'm looking into a solution suggested earlier on this list.
>- I played a round with the poll autoresponder - but I didn't manage to
>build up my own poll. I allways receive a vote with US states in...?!
My mistake. Use instead the poll folder from
<ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/>
Subject: Re: mailing list
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 98 15:32:49 -0500
From: Jon & Janelle Gardner <jgardner at kairosnet dot com>
>I just want to set up AutoShare to send out a monthly newsletter. However
>the e-mails don't come in the form recommended:
>
><address>(<name>) but all kinds of options as collected from e-mails when
>people write to me.
>
>I'm assuming I can't use Autoshare, am I right? (I know I could go to the
>trouble of setting it up and trying but time. . . .)
>
>Just a yes or no will do me.
In a word, "yes."
AutoShare will work great for you. If you have an existing list of
recipients, you can add them by either:
1) use BBEdit to put them in the right format in the list file, i.e.
<address [(<name>)]:
user1 at email1 dot com [(User One)]
user2 at email2 dot com [(User Two)]
etc.
The user's name is not required; you can just have a pair of empty
brackets if you want. It may even work without the brackets.
2) Set up your list with an admin password, and then generate an email to
your list with the following syntax:
<password> subscribe user1 at email1 dot com <listname> User One
<password> subscribe user2 at email2 dot com <listname> User Two
etc.
Again, the user's name is not required.
After that, anyone who wants to subscribe to your newsletter can just
send "subscribe <listname>" in the body of a message (or subject, if you
set it up that way) to your listserver. AutoShare is smart enough to pick
out the proper information from the mail headers.
Jon
<><
Jon & Janelle Gardner <mailto:jgardner at kairosnet dot com> <AOLIM:DaGardners>
Kairos Network Services <http://www.kairosnet.com/kairos/>
...as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord. (Joshua 24:15 NIV)
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 22:40:02 +0000
From: Michael Hambly <michael at mayo-ireland dot ie>
Subject: Re: mailing list
>the required subscriber format is <address>[ (<name>)].
>
>Copying and pasting addresses manually doesn't take long though.
Thanks Mikael but I think I'll give it a miss as I don't fancy going
through 8000 e-mail address by hand.
Michael
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* * * * * *
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 16:21:36 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: mailing list
At 22:40 +0000 8/1/98, Michael Hambly wrote:
>Thanks Mikael but I think I'll give it a miss as I don't fancy going
>through 8000 e-mail address by hand.
8000 :-) Yes, it would probably call for an automated approach.
Being curious, do you have 8000 e-mails in a e-mail client mailbox? Each
address is in the From field?
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 03:01:42 -0400
From: Ricardo Davis <ricardo at ustaxpayers dot org>
Subject: Web-based subscription not working now
Hi all,
Here's our setup: MacOS 8.1, EIMS 2.1, AutoShare 2.4
I created a separate preference folder for our domain (@ustaxpayers.org)
and I've set up all the addresses, folder and docs locations. I've "turned
on" all prefs in Autoshare admin. Now something strange is happening.
If I send a remote subscribe request to add a new user to a defined list,
it's added OK. When I try to use the web-based form (as a pretend client
using a different e-mail), it fails: At first AS processed the message
under the Default's domain, the second time under the @ustaxpayer domain.
Any reason why it's so mixed up?
-Ricardo
--------------------------------------------------------------
Ricardo Davis
mailto:ricardo at ustaxpayers.org * http://www.ustaxpayers dot org/
1 Samuel 12:14, 24 "If you will fear the LORD and serve Him,
and listen to His voice and not rebel against the command of
the LORD, then both you and also the king who reigns over you
will follow the LORD your God...Only fear the LORD and serve
Him in truth with all your heart; for consider what great
things He has done for you."
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 22:19:44 +0000
From: Michael Hambly <michael at mayo-ireland dot ie>
Subject: Re: mailing list
>From: Jon & Janelle Gardner <jgardner at kairosnet dot com>
>
>>Thanks Mikael but I think I'll give it a miss as I don't fancy going
>>through 8000 e-mail address by hand.
>
>8000 :-) Yes, it would probably call for an automated approach.
>
>Being curious, do you have 8000 e-mails in a e-mail client mailbox? Each
>address is in the From field?
Thanks Jon, Janelee and Mikael for looking into this.
This is what I'm dealing with:
), Jill FLETCHER ( nee MACMANOMY xyz at winshop.com dot au
.Cooney, Sharon A xyz at im4u dot net
.Logan, Barbara M xyz at prcn dot org
1, Mary Anne Valentine xyz at hotmail dot com
1890, Molly Corcoran xyz at compuserve dot com
2432 xyz at euwfhiue dot com
2805 xyz at erols dot com
(TERESA) xyz at WEBTV dot NET
"Karen Shields" <xyz at discovernet dot net>
I just copied them into a DB from the 'from' field in their e-mails.
Perhaps I can just extract all the e-mail addresses only. I'll have to try
and fine time to study up on grep in BBEdit.
Michael
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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 09:08:45 +0200
From: Detlef Beyer <d.beyer at hermes dot de>
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 1 Aug 1998
Hi Michael,
>>- there are still some text parts that I can't find and localize. Mostly
>>text that is produced by tokens like /=sub. is there any way to put in
>>my german text?
>
>Not yet. I'm looking into a solution suggested earlier on this list.
>
since I just joind the list I missed previous discussions on this topic - my=
favorite way would be: an external text file and a little AppleScript app=
that copies all strings from the external file into autoshare (or a new=
command in the AutoShare config app). This wouldn't affect the performance=
in any way and everybody could use whatever language he/she needs...?!
But maybe it could get a problem that it's not possible to configure all=
text strings individually for each list (if I host a german and a english=
list - wich I will have to do)...?!
Cheers,
Detlef
<SIG>There's never time to do it right, but there's always time to fix it.</=
SIG>
Date: 03 Aug 98 09:19:45 -0500
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: Re: mailing list
Perhaps I don't fully understand the problem, but the solution appears =
easy if your database is at all powerful. You don't really care about the =
person's name mcuh I assume and are willing to live with whatever was in =
that from address. So:
Break apart the field placing the last word (that is the e-mail address) =
in one field and all the rest in another. Then, reassemble those two =
pieces with the proper separators and in the proper order for Autoshare. =
Export that reassembled field and name it correctly as the mailing list =
file (or append it to the mailing list file if one already exists). =
Should be about a 15 minute procedure, and once the database is built (at =
least in Filemaker Pro which is what I use) you can just load things in in =
the incoming format and export the ready to go changed format at once.
Drop me a note off list if this seems to solve your problem and I'll be =
happy to help out.
Chuck Boody
Analyst/Programmer
ISD 270
=============
Michael Hambly wrote:
>>From: Jon & Janelle Gardner <jgardner at kairosnet dot com>
>>
>>>Thanks Mikael but I think I'll give it a miss as I don't fancy going
>>>through 8000 e-mail address by hand.
>>
>>8000 :-) Yes, it would probably call for an automated approach.
>>
>>Being curious, do you have 8000 e-mails in a e-mail client mailbox? Each
>>address is in the From field?
>
>Thanks Jon, Janelee and Mikael for looking into this.
>
> This is what I'm dealing with:
>
>), Jill FLETCHER ( nee MACMANOMY xyz at winshop.com dot au
>.Cooney, Sharon A xyz at im4u dot net
>.Logan, Barbara M xyz at prcn dot org
>1, Mary Anne Valentine xyz at hotmail dot com
>1890, Molly Corcoran xyz at compuserve dot com
>2432 xyz at euwfhiue dot com
>2805 xyz at erols dot com
>(TERESA) xyz at WEBTV dot NET
>"Karen Shields" <xyz at discovernet dot net>
>
>I just copied them into a DB from the 'from' field in their e-mails.
>
>Perhaps I can just extract all the e-mail addresses only. I'll have to =
try
>and fine time to study up on grep in BBEdit.
>
>Michael
>
>
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>
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>
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>
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 07:39:45 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Localization
At 09:08 +0200 8/3/98, Detlef Beyer wrote:
>But maybe it could get a problem that it's not possible to configure all
>text strings individually for each list (if I host a german and a english
>list - wich I will have to do)...?!
I'm currently working on a list-specific solution, which allows sets of
alternative user (subscriber) strings based on language documents in a
folder. Aimed at both list server request responses and list contribution
alerts, you'd be able to target a given list to subscribers in a given
language. The configuration per list would merely require the language
document name to be specified, and I'll include a language document
template when the time comes.
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 00:44:49 +0000
From: Michael Hambly <michael at mayo-ireland dot ie>
Subject: Re: mailing list (partial solution)
> This is what I'm dealing with:
>
>), Jill FLETCHER ( nee MACMANOMY xyz at winshop.com dot au
>.Cooney, Sharon A xyz at im4u dot net
>.Logan, Barbara M xyz at prcn dot org
>1, Mary Anne Valentine xyz at hotmail dot com
>1890, Molly Corcoran xyz at compuserve dot com
>2432 xyz at euwfhiue dot com
>2805 xyz at erols dot com
>(TERESA) xyz at WEBTV dot NET
>"Karen Shields" <xyz at discovernet dot net>
With the interest some of you have shown I finally spent some time with
BBEdit and grep. I found that the following find
(.*)[ \t]
and replacing with nothing gets all the e-mail addresses like those above
in the form of:
<e-mail address only>
I still can't figure out though how to handle the list when some scattered
through it are the other way round:
<e-mail> name
Any ideas on this would be welcome.
Michael
* * * * * *
http://www.mayo-ireland.ie/ for sites on Ireland.
Researching your roots? http://mail.mayo-ireland.ie/webx?
Michael Hambly, Mayo Ireland Ltd, Claremorris, Co Mayo, Ireland
Tel: + 353 (0) 94 60209 Fax: + 353 (0) 94 60273 michael at mayo-ireland dot ie
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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 01:21:20 +0200
From: Jan Koudelka <koudelka at appleklub dot cz>
Subject: Re: Localization
>>But maybe it could get a problem that it's not possible to configure all
>>text strings individually for each list (if I host a german and a english
>>list - wich I will have to do)...?!
>
>I'm currently working on a list-specific solution, which allows sets of
>alternative user (subscriber) strings based on language documents in a
>folder.
It looks like something I have already heard somewhere... :-)))
Mikael, what about adding already prepared set of several language files
into the standard installation? I think if you post the template into this
(or autoshare-dev) list, you can get the localized versions very quickly.
I can create Czech and probably also Slovak version during first weekend
after I get the template.
I think at least German and French versions can by made by somebody in this
list as well.
HOnza
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 01:23:54 +0200
From: Jan Koudelka <koudelka at appleklub dot cz>
Subject: Re: mailing list
>Perhaps I can just extract all the e-mail addresses only. I'll have to try
>and fine time to study up on grep in BBEdit.
>
>Michael
Use AppleGuide. It is quite simple.
HOnza
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 13:23:30 +0200
From: Jan Koudelka <koudelka at appleklub dot cz>
Subject: Re: mailing list (partial solution)
>> This is what I'm dealing with:
>>
>>), Jill FLETCHER ( nee MACMANOMY xyz at winshop.com dot au
>>.Cooney, Sharon A xyz at im4u dot net
>>.Logan, Barbara M xyz at prcn dot org
>>1, Mary Anne Valentine xyz at hotmail dot com
>>1890, Molly Corcoran xyz at compuserve dot com
>>2432 xyz at euwfhiue dot com
>>2805 xyz at erols dot com
>>(TERESA) xyz at WEBTV dot NET
>>"Karen Shields" <xyz at discovernet dot net>
>
>I still can't figure out though how to handle the list when some scattered
>through it are the other way round:
>
><e-mail> name
Try this...
Find: (.*)[ \t]([^ \t\r\n\f]+@[^ \t\r\n\f]*)(.*)
Replace with: \2 \1 \3
HOnza
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 06:41:28 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Localization
At 01:21 +0200 8/4/98, Jan Koudelka wrote:
>It looks like something I have already heard somewhere... :-)))
Yes indeed :-)
>Mikael, what about adding already prepared set of several language files
>into the standard installation?I think if you post the template into this
>(or autoshare-dev) list, you can get the localized versions very quickly.
That would be very nice for the next version.
Date: 04 Aug 98 08:53:49 -0500
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: Re: mailing list (partial solution)
Check line by line to see if the first "word" contains @. If it does it =
is the address. If it does not the last word is the address.
Chuck Boody
=============
Michael Hambly wrote:
>> This is what I'm dealing with:
>>
>>), Jill FLETCHER ( nee MACMANOMY xyz at winshop.com dot au
>>.Cooney, Sharon A xyz at im4u dot net
>>.Logan, Barbara M xyz at prcn dot org
>>1, Mary Anne Valentine xyz at hotmail dot com
>>1890, Molly Corcoran xyz at compuserve dot com
>>2432 xyz at euwfhiue dot com
>>2805 xyz at erols dot com
>>(TERESA) xyz at WEBTV dot NET
>>"Karen Shields" <xyz at discovernet dot net>
>
>With the interest some of you have shown I finally spent some time with
>BBEdit and grep. I found that the following find
>
> (.*)[ \t]
>
>and replacing with nothing gets all the e-mail addresses like those above
>in the form of:
>
><e-mail address only>
>
>I still can't figure out though how to handle the list when some =
scattered
>through it are the other way round:
>
><e-mail> name
>
>Any ideas on this would be welcome.
>
>Michael
>
>
> * * * * * *
>
>http://www.mayo-ireland.ie/ for sites on Ireland.
>
>Researching your roots? http://mail.mayo-ireland.ie/webx?
>
>Michael Hambly, Mayo Ireland Ltd, Claremorris, Co Mayo, Ireland
>Tel: + 353 (0) 94 60209 Fax: + 353 (0) 94 60273 michael at mayo-ireland dot ie
>
> * * * * * *
>
>
>
>
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>Subject: Re: mailing list (partial solution)
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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 10:12:34 -0600 (MDT)
From: mark malowany <Mark.Malowany at ualberta dot ca>
Subject: Rolling over web-based digests
Forgive me if I'm missing the obvious but how do I get autoshare to start a
new archived web-digest on, say, the 1st of every month or after a preset
number of messages?
Any suggestions as to how to do this or where to look in the documentation
would be much appreciated.
By the way, AutoShare is a hell of a program and I'd be remiss in not
mentioning that!
cheers
marko
http://www.ualberta.ca/~mmalowan
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 14:57:46 -0400
From: Cris Mooney <cmooney at jumpdev dot com>
Subject: Re: mailing list (partial solution)
--============_-1309778989==_============
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In case you have MPW, or can make heads or tails out of the regular
expression crap, I hammered out the following once to grab email addresses
from any text file (used to pluck addresses out of messages in a "remove"
mailbox).
Search -q FROM "Develop:Remove"
StreamEdit -d -e '/([¬ \t\n<]*@[¬ \t\n>)]*)®1/ print ®1' "Develop:Re=
move"
Search -q FROM: "Develop:Remove" |
StreamEdit -d -e '/([¬ \t\n<]*@[¬ \t\n>)]*)®1/ print ®1'
Search -q @ "OS8:Untitled" |
StreamEdit -d -e '/([¬ :\t\n<]*@[¬ ?\t\n>)]*)®1/ print ®1'
Since email will screw up special characters, and I don't have time to
figure it out, I have also attached this stuff as binhexed simpletext doc.
Let me know if this fails.
Regards,
Cris
--============_-1309778989==_============
Content-Type: text/plain; name="PluckAddr"; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="PluckAddr"
In case you have MPW, or can make heads or tails out of the regular
expression crap, I hammered out the following once to grab email addresses
from any text file (used to pluck addresses out of messages in a "remove"
mailbox).
Search -q FROM "Develop:Remove"
StreamEdit -d -e '/([¬ \t\n<]*@[¬ \t\n>)]*)®1/ print ®1' "Develop:Re=
move"
Search -q FROM: "Develop:Remove" | StreamEdit -d -e '/([¬ \t\n<]*@[¬
\t\n>)]*)®1/ print ®1'
Search -q @ "OS8:Untitled" | StreamEdit -d -e '/([¬ :\t\n<]*@[¬
?\t\n>)]*)®1/ print ®1'
Since email will screw up special characters, and I don't have time to
figure it out, I have also attached this stuff as binhexed simpletext doc.
Let me know if this fails.
cmooney at jumpdev dot com
--============_-1309778989==_============--
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 12:29:43 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: mailing list (partial solution)
At 08:53 -0500 8/4/98, Chuck Boody wrote:
>Check line by line to see if the first "word" contains @.
It would depend on how a "word" is defined. When I wrote a function for
extracting an e-mail address (or a URL) from for instance an RFC field,
spaces alone as bordering characters aren't enough, so I took into
consideration both a "before the word" and an "after the word" set of
selected characters. To complicate things further, AppleScript incidently
considers '@' such a character by default, so an e-mail address there is
two words.
For the next version I have now done it, so that you can drop a line-based
text file onto the server icon creating an output file, which contains
lines of just extracted e-mail addresses.
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 12:29:50 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Rolling over web-based digests
At 10:12 -0600 8/5/98, mark malowany wrote:
>Forgive me if I'm missing the obvious but how do I get autoshare to
>start a new archived web-digest on, say, the 1st of every month or
>after a preset number of messages?
>
>Any suggestions as to how to do this or where to look in the documentation
>would be much appreciated.
For a given number of messages, see the documentation at
Running the server
Running a list server
Archives and digests
Rollover of archive files
>By the way, AutoShare is a hell of a program and I'd be remiss in not
>mentioning that!
Thanks!
Date: 05 Aug 98 15:27:27 -0500
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: Re: mailing list (partial solution)
Mikael's solution is better. And, he is correct about @ sometimes =
breaking words (as a space will).
Chuck
=============
Mikael Hansen wrote:
>At 08:53 -0500 8/4/98, Chuck Boody wrote:
>
>>Check line by line to see if the first "word" contains @.
>
>It would depend on how a "word" is defined. When I wrote a function for
>extracting an e-mail address (or a URL) from for instance an RFC field,
>spaces alone as bordering characters aren't enough, so I took into
>consideration both a "before the word" and an "after the word" set of
>selected characters. To complicate things further, AppleScript incidently
>considers '@' such a character by default, so an e-mail address there is
>two words.
>
>For the next version I have now done it, so that you can drop a line-=
based
>text file onto the server icon creating an output file, which contains
>lines of just extracted e-mail addresses.
>
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Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 21:00:13 -0400
From: Ricardo Davis <ricardo at ustaxpayers dot org>
Subject: Re: Web-based subscription not working now
Help.
From the AutoShare 2.4 docs...
>AutoShare 2.0 offers multiple preference sets, so that you may run multiple
>instances of for instance the list server, with each instance displayed
>within
>its own status
>window. This comes in handy when configuring EIMS 2.0 to handle multiple
>domains, as you can also have one list server address per domain.
This is what we want!
>Non-default preference sets are created in the above AutoShare folder by
>simply
>creating empty subfolders having names beginning with the @ sign. When
>starting
>up, AutoShare creates respective preference sets within such non-default
>subfolders.
I've done this. I created a @ustaxpayers.org folder and Autoshare created
the prefs sets. I then created @ustaxpayers.org folders in the List
Server, Documents, etc. folders and set the appropriate paths for the
preferences set. I even set the X-List-Host to the domain
(ustaxpayers.org).
>The configuration of each AutoShare 2.0 preference set must generally
>correspond to the account configuration of a given EIMS 2.0 domain.
Thus, I've created an EIMS domain mail.ustaxpayers.org (which also answers
to ustaxpayers.org) and created the needed accounts (autoshare, bouncer,
etc. -- I love the EIMS admin's drag-and-drop!)
But how do I tell AutoShare to process mail sent to
autoshare at ustaxpayers dot org using this new preferences set instead of the
default preferences set (for autoshare at myisp dot com)?
>AutoShare distributes the processing of the preference sets in a round robin
>fashion.
This is where my problem lies. If I send an e-mail to
autoshare at ustaxpayers dot org or try to send mail to a list in the
@ustaxpayers.org preference set and the Default preferences set processes
it (because it's that set's "turn"), AutoShare ("From: <the list address>")
will return the mail to me with the message "Sorry. The recipient address
is not valid." I believe this is since the list I'm trying to modify isn't
defined in the Default preferences set.
If I set the preferences file to "@ustaxpayers.org" instead of "All",
everything works fine...except the other lists in the other preferences
sets don't work at all.
Am I missing something here? How can I get AutoShare to process commands
sent to autoshare at ustaxpayers.org using the at ustaxpayers dot org preferences
set??? Help!
-Ricardo
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 22:27:32 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Web-based subscription not working now
At 21:00 -0400 8/9/98, Ricardo Davis wrote:
>Am I missing something here? How can I get AutoShare to process commands
>sent to autoshare at ustaxpayers.org using the at ustaxpayers dot org preferences
>set??? Help!
Does each preference set have its own separate Filed Mail folder etc?
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 01:47:09 -0400
From: Ricardo Davis <ricardo at ustaxpayers dot org>
Subject: Re: Web-based subscription not working now
>At 21:00 -0400 8/9/98, Ricardo Davis wrote:
>
>>Am I missing something here? How can I get AutoShare to process commands
>>sent to autoshare at ustaxpayers.org using the at ustaxpayers dot org preferences
>>set??? Help!
>
>Does each preference set have its own separate Filed Mail folder etc?
The only folder I didn't address was the Filed Mail folder. Let me take
care of that...
-Ricardo
--------------------------------------------------------------
Ricardo Davis
mailto:ricardo at ustaxpayers.org * http://www.ustaxpayers dot org/
1 Samuel 12:14, 24 "If you will fear the LORD and serve Him,
and listen to His voice and not rebel against the command of
the LORD, then both you and also the king who reigns over you
will follow the LORD your God...Only fear the LORD and serve
Him in truth with all your heart; for consider what great
things He has done for you."
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 03:26:48 -0400
From: Ricardo Davis <ricardo at ustaxpayers dot org>
Subject: Re: Web-based subscription not working now
>At 21:00 -0400 8/9/98, Ricardo Davis wrote:
>
>>Am I missing something here? How can I get AutoShare to process commands
>>sent to autoshare at ustaxpayers.org using the at ustaxpayers dot org preferences
>>set??? Help!
>
>Does each preference set have its own separate Filed Mail folder etc?
Now each preference set has its own separate File Mail folder (and
subfolders in Douments, List Server, etc.)
Now I can post OK, but when I try and send a command, I get...
>Mime-Version: 1.0
>To: ricardo at ustaxpayers dot org
>From: autoshare at ustaxpayers dot org (US Taxpayers Party Listserver)
>Precedence: bulk
>Subject: query USTP-List
>Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 03:21:38 -0400
>List-Software: AutoShare 2.4 by Mikael Hansen
>
>Sorry. The recipient address is not valid.
>
>> Mime-Version: 1.0
>> Content-Type: text/plain
>> To: autoshare at ustaxpayers dot org
>> From: ricardo at ustaxpayers dot org
>> Subject: (no subject)
>> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 03:21:29 -0400
>>
>> query USTP-List
We're getting closer...
-Ricardo
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 01:07:54 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Web-based subscription not working now
At 03:26 -0400 8/10/98, Ricardo Davis wrote:
>>Sorry. The recipient address is not valid.
>We're getting closer...
You need to add that additional domain as a host entry for the given
preference set. In the Admin, do Command-U to zoom in on the preference set
to configure, then do Command-H to add the domain of the SMTP envelope
address of the message file. Sounds funny at first, but easy once you have
tried it.
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 04:36:17 -0400
From: Ricardo Davis <ricardo at ustaxpayers dot org>
Subject: Re: Web-based subscription not working now
>At 03:26 -0400 8/10/98, Ricardo Davis wrote:
>
>>>Sorry. The recipient address is not valid.
>
>>We're getting closer...
>
>You need to add that additional domain as a host entry for the given
>preference set. In the Admin, do Command-U to zoom in on the preference set
>to configure, then do Command-H to add the domain of the SMTP envelope
>address of the message file. Sounds funny at first, but easy once you have
>tried it.
I checked the Hosts... for the @ustaxpayers.org prefs set. The hosts
ustaxpayers.org and mail.ustaxpayers.org are already defined (in that
order). Then I just went to check the Default prefs set and ... these
hosts where there too. I deleted the duplicate hosts from the Default
prefs set, set the Multiple Preferences to All and restarted AutoShare.
Still the same error message, "Sorry. The recipient address is not valid."
Still troubleshooting...
-Ricardo
-Ricardo
--------------------------------------------------------------
Ricardo Davis
mailto:ricardo at ustaxpayers.org * http://www.ustaxpayers dot org/
1 Samuel 12:14, 24 "If you will fear the LORD and serve Him,
and listen to His voice and not rebel against the command of
the LORD, then both you and also the king who reigns over you
will follow the LORD your God...Only fear the LORD and serve
Him in truth with all your heart; for consider what great
things He has done for you."
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 18:54:39 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: CRON
At 09:23 +0200 8/10/98, Detlef Beyer wrote:
>I have to aliases (point both to script apps for FMPro) in the "Launch"
>folder (inside the AS prefs):
>
>0,3,*,*,7
>0,4,*,*,7
>
>and I expected the files to be executed last night - but nothing happens.
Using spaces instead of commas should do it, e.g. 0 3 * * 7.
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 19:19:42 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Mail Back
At 08:46 +0200 8/10/98, Detlef Beyer wrote:
>I use the mail back option for a new subsription to a list - but if
>someone is allready on that list and sends the "sub" command again -
>I would like to send him the error msg directly, without the mail back
>confirmation - any way to do this?
>
>Also I would like to send a special file in this case - not the default
>document with the "hello and welcome" text...
It is not supported as a built-in feature, but it is possible to write a
process extender of type Before Processing, which can intercept the message
file to see if the sender is already subscribed and if so do something
before deleting the file.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 22:22:41 -0700
From: Glenn Gutierrez <kernelg at home dot com>
Subject: AOL multi-bounces
Just a quick note, as I haven't noticed it mentioned (sorry if it has).
AOL's server will often bounce in 'bunches' of up to 5 accounts at
once. As the bounce report below shows, only one gets attention by
Autoshare. I realize the others will follow with subsequent delivery
attempts, and this is free, automatic, and I shouldn't cry about it,
but it would be nice to get them all at once. :)
Of course, the syntax may make it impossible. What say?
-Glenn
>
>Rnitro at aol dot com has been unsubscribed from the news-l list due to a hard bounce
>
...[snip]
>
> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> <Rnitro at aol dot com>
> <SL98ROCKS at aol dot com>
> <sncerepnoy at aol dot com>
>
> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> ... while talking to air-ya04.mail.aol.com.:
> >>> RCPT To:<Rnitro at aol dot com>
> <<< 550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND
> 550 <Rnitro at aol dot com>... User unknown
> ... while talking to air-ya04.mail.aol.com.:
> >>> RCPT To:<sncerepnoy at aol dot com>
> <<< 550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND
> 550 <sncerepnoy at aol dot com>... User unknown
> >>> RCPT To:<SL98ROCKS at aol dot com>
> <<< 550 SL98ROCKS IS NOT ACCEPTING ANY MAIL
> 550 <SL98ROCKS at aol dot com>... User unknown
>
> ----- Message header follows -----
...
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 23:52:08 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: AOL multi-bounces
At 22:22 -0700 8/14/98, Glenn Gutierrez wrote:
>AOL's server will often bounce in 'bunches' of up to 5 accounts at
>once. As the bounce report below shows, only one gets attention by
>Autoshare. I realize the others will follow with subsequent delivery
>attempts, and this is free, automatic, and I shouldn't cry about it,
>but it would be nice to get them all at once. :)
>
>Of course, the syntax may make it impossible. What say?
Thanks for the sample. I'll look into it.
--
Eight minutes to the iMac... <http://www.apple.com/imac/>
Subject: Re: AOL multi-bounces
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 21:11:13 -0400
From: Eric Mings <elm at ao dot net>
Gee, AOL doing something in a nonstandard way that screws up software
made for use on the internet. Now that IS something unusual! ;-)
Regards,
Eric Mings Ph.D.
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 17:15:14 +0100
From: Sterling Ledet <sjledet at ledet dot com>
Subject: Is Autoshare 2.4 compatible with EIMS 2.2b3?
Does anyone know if Autoshare 2.4 is compatible with the new mail API of
EIMS 2.2b3?
Sterling Ledet & Associates ph.404-325-3338
2176 Heritage Drive
Atlanta, GA 30345 http://www.ledet.com
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 15:05:49 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Is Autoshare 2.4 compatible with EIMS 2.2b3?
At 17:15 +0100 8/16/98, Sterling Ledet wrote:
>Does anyone know if Autoshare 2.4 is compatible with the new mail API of
>EIMS 2.2b3?
New mail API? I know of a new filter API only.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 16:34:13 +0200
From: Christoph Reichenberger <chrei at unisoft.co dot at>
Subject: Error: Domain of your recipient address is not valid
Hi,
we switched to version 2.4 (from 1.x) of AutoShare. Now
users who post to the list get the following error message
and nothing is distributed to the subscribers.
=================================
Sorry. The domain of your recipient address is not valid.
chianti.unisoft.co.at
Please contact admin at unisoft.co dot at
=================================
... this message is followed by the help file.
Can anyone tell me what is wrong here? Anything I have to
reconfigure?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Christoph
---------------------------------------------------
Christoph Reichenberger Tel: +43-7236-3338-82
UNI SOFTWARE PLUS GMBH Fax: +43-7236-3338-30
Softwarepark Hagenberg, mailto:chrei at unisoft.co dot at
A-4232 Hagenberg, Austria http://www.unisoft.co.at
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 11:46:42 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Error: Domain of your recipient address is not valid
At 16:34 +0200 8/17/98, Christoph Reichenberger wrote:
>we switched to version 2.4 (from 1.x) of AutoShare. Now
>users who post to the list get the following error message
>and nothing is distributed to the subscribers.
>
>=================================
>Sorry. The domain of your recipient address is not valid.
>chianti.unisoft.co.at
>Please contact admin at unisoft.co dot at
>=================================
>
>... this message is followed by the help file.
>
>
>Can anyone tell me what is wrong here? Anything I have to
>reconfigure?
You have to add chianti.unisoft.co.at as a host entry. Admin, Command-H.
This was tightened when adding the Unknown Accounts feature in 2.4.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 20:36:13 +0100
From: Sterling Ledet <sjledet at ledet dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 17 Aug 1998
>New mail API? I know of a new filter API only.
That's what I meant. Does Autoshare 2.4 work with EIMS 2.2b3?
Sterling Ledet & Associates ph.404-325-3338
2176 Heritage Drive
Atlanta, GA 30345 http://www.ledet.com