Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:52:00 -0800 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: huge message At 13:45 -0500 1/22/99, Gordon Shupe wrote: >> It's returned to the sender. > > I thought that a copy was sent to the postmaster or listowner... It has always been the sender for announcement lists. The documentation mentions it in the section on list types. >> Did you save the message file by any chance? > > Do you mean the message file in the Incoming Mail Folder for EIMS Whatever message files you have, I need to know the folder names. > Yikes! I just looked in the filed mail folder and there is a item called > b2cbc60a that is huge!!! Would you believe 65 megs!!! I don't know if I have > anything that can open it, any idea what I have done to create such a > monster??? BBEdit probably can. If you StuffIt it, you'll be surprised at how small the type of file becomes. If the archive is less than 1MB, feel free to send it to me. When all is said and done, I find it unlikely that AutoShare was the cause of it, but I would like to make sure.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 00:57:22 -0800 From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com> Subject: Re: AutoShare 3.0.4b2 At 9:03 PM -0800 on 1/20/99, Mikael Hansen wrote: > The 3.0.4b2 archive has been uploaded to > > <ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/> > > +Added new folder button in standard folder dialog for select buttons > +Added status window start-up warning if no listmaster or bounce address > +Enabled use of /=mailback tokens in subject-specific auto-response files; > if use of mail-back keyword in subject, /=original or /=header token must > be present in mail-back confirmation file > +Added join and leave, which may be used for subscribing and unsubscribing; > use the letter R in Misc Stuff to reflect these commands in RFC headers > > Available at http://pascal-central.com/autoshare/beta/. Cheers, Bill +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Camelot Administrator, mailto:camelot.admin at lmco dot com | | Lockheed Martin, Enterprise Information Systems, Sunnyvale, CA | +----------------------------------------------------------------+
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 00:55:48 -0800 From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com> Subject: Re: Type 10 Error/Vacation notice At 7:13 PM -0800 on 1/21/99, Mikael Hansen wrote: > > > So far so good...but every time I send a test message to the > > account, AutoShare quits with a type 10 error. > > While this must be frustrating to you, I have no specific clue as to > why that would happen to you other than suggesting that you try to > drop a message file in the Filed Mail folder at a time when you have > booted with extensions off and after you have made sure via various > utilities that your system is in optimal shape. I have for years not > received a single user crash report, which turned out to be such, not > that I mind :-) > > I was getting many of these Autoshare crashes when the file in the Filed Mail folder was too big, or recently, when it was invalid. Maybe EIMS beta is creating an invalid file? +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Camelot Administrator, mailto:camelot.admin at lmco dot com | | Lockheed Martin, Enterprise Information Systems, Sunnyvale, CA | +----------------------------------------------------------------+
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 17:28:30 -0500 From: Gordon Shupe <gshupe at ix.netcom dot com> Subject: Re: huge message Mikael Hansen wrote: > > >> Did you save the message file by any chance? > > > > Do you mean the message file in the Incoming Mail Folder for EIMS > > Whatever message files you have, I need to know the folder names. > > > Yikes! I just looked in the filed mail folder and there is a item called > > b2cbc60a that is huge!!! Would you believe 65 megs!!! I don't know if I have > > anything that can open it, any idea what I have done to create such a > > monster??? > > BBEdit probably can. If you StuffIt it, you'll be surprised at how > small the type of file becomes. If the archive is less than 1MB, feel > free to send it to me. > I tried to stuffit and it now is only 8k, so I will send it to you directly. The header content is at the bottom of this mailer > > When all is said and done, I find it unlikely that AutoShare was the > cause of it, but I would like to make sure. I don't really think that Autoshare the program did it, I was thinking more that I have something configured wrong. Thanks for your contribution to the Mac community! gordon header of message- the date stamp and message then repeat all the way through the 65 meg file! *********begin snip Return-Path: <gshupe at ix.netcom dot com> Received: from dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.6) by stone.web.brevard.kl2.fl.us with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.3.1); Wed, 20 Jan 1999 17:42:33 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA15424; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 16:27:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from unknown(204.128.88.8) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com via smap (Vl.3) id rmaO15227; Wed Jan 20 16:25:58 1999 Message-ID: <36A65949.C57809F5@ix netcom dot com> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 17:31:47 -0500 From: Gordon Shupe ~gshupe at ix.netcom dot com> Reply-To: gshupe at ix.netcom dot com Organization: Stone Junior High School X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.O To: "Nancy Shupe" <nshupe at stone.web.brevard.kl2.fl dot us> Subject: News about Netanyahu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Current Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, goes by the nickname "Bibi". His wife, in ,contrast to most Israeli "first ladies", plans to take a more activist rc_ in her country's affairs. At the next summit conference Mrs. Netanyahu is scheduled to introduce her husband to the PLO leader Arafat by saying, "YASIR, THAT'S MY BIBI!!!" Ok, not really, and I hope you weren't offended and got a chuckle (at least I had the good sense not to post this to the website...). <http://www.ncflife.com> ***************snip
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:26:49 -0800 From: Michael Wise <mike at wired dot com> Subject: Type 10 Error/Vacation notice Redux >> I set every thing up as outlined in the quickstart (vacation msg as >> a text doc named "default" in hard drive:auto/documents/user name, >> and filter with the user's name and containing ***** in hard >> drive/auto/filter. So far so good...but every time I send a test >> message to the account, AutoShare quits with a type 10 error. When I >> look at the filter file, it contains my email address below the **** >> (since I sent it the test msg). I look in the auto/file mail folder, >> and it contains a file with the msg I sent...so I can't figure out >> what's going wrong. I've double, triple, and quadruple-checked that >> the EIMS account is configured to as files in the auto filed mail >> directory and that all the AutoShare folder prefs are pointing to >> the right places. > While this must be frustrating to you, I have no specific clue as to > why that would happen to you other than suggesting that you try to > drop a message file in the Filed Mail folder at a time when you have > booted with extensions off and after you have made sure via various > utilities that your system is in optimal shape. I have for years not > received a single user crash report, which turned out to be such, not > that I mind :-) Hmmm. I still can't figure out. I keep all my Mac servers (including EIMS) in top shape. The server in question is fully scanned weekly with both Norton Disk Doctor 4.0.1 and Apple Disk First Aid 8.5.1....and just did it again for good measure (no probs found). I am unable to test things with all extensions off as neither EIMS or AutoShare will run with all extensions off...however I am running with a stripped down 8.5.1 (junk like apple menu options removed) and did try to run the vacation notice with my third party extensions removed (Timbuktu Pro 4.8 and AutoBoot 1.6.1)...and got the same result: " The application 'AutoShare' has unexpectedly quit because an error of type 10 occurred" After this happens, I go look inside hd/Auto/File Mail and there is in fact a file there named something like "b2cee36c" When I open that file with a text editor...it proves to be test mail I sent to the user. I then go to hd/Auto/Filter/[account name] and when I open up the user's filter file, my address is added below the five asterisks. Everything looks as I imagine it should look...it's just that AutoShare keeps crashing with a type 10...and it will keep crashing on re-launch as long as the filed mail ("b2cee36c", for example) is in the Filed Mail folder. As soon as I remove the "b2cee36c" (or whatever the name happens to be at the time) from the Filed Mail folder, I am able to re-launch AutoShare. In fact, not only am I able to re-launch it, but I receive a bounce message from the user I had sent the test message to....only the test message is BLANK. And if I send another test message, bang...AutoShare again crashes with a type 10 error. One thing that may be noteworthy: I am running this EIMS server in a sub-domain (mag.wired.com) to wired.com. All incoming mail from the outside world first passes through an authoritative (for wired.com) mail server which then auto-forwards the incoming mail (on a per user basis) to corresponding EIMS accounts on the mag.wired.com domain. Mail from the outside cannot be sent directly to accounts on the mag.wired.com domain...but rather must pass through the main server (for no technical...but rather very political reasons). So far so good. One thing I noticed on the blank bounce I did get has a return address of "user@mag.wired.com" which is not good.. dot as the return address needs to be "user@wired dot com". I would really like to get AutoShare working for vacation messages at is it's extremely embarrassing the way EIMS keeps chunking out repeated "I'm not here" vacation messages to mail lists the vacationing user happens to belong to. It's embarrassing to the point where abandoning the use of EIMS would be the only option vacation messages can't be limited to one per sendee's address and/or filtered out entirely from mail originating from lists. Could perhaps the fact that I'm running EIMS/AutoShare on a sub-domain have anything to do with getting type 10's??? Are there any other products (commercial, shareware, or freeware) which work with EIMS and will handle limiting vacation mail?? --Mike ***************************************************** Michael Wise Manager, Information Systems & Technology Wired Magazine www.wired.com/wired mike at wired dot com *****************************************************
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 21:00:07 -0800 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: What happened to <any-name>?? At 18:27 +0000 1/22/99, James Berriman wrote: > Oh dear: > >>To: EIMS-L at qualcomm.co dot nz (Subscribers of AutoShare-Talk) > > The original header said: > > To: AutoShare-Talk at frutiger.staffs.ac.uk, <EIMS-L at qualcomm dot co dot nz> Very funny indeed :-) The fun will be over in b3!
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 21:04:14 -0800 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: Type 10 Error/Vacation notice At 00:55 -0800 1/23/99, Camelot Administrator wrote: > I was getting many of these Autoshare crashes when the file in the Filed > Mail folder was too big, or recently, when it was invalid. Maybe EIMS beta > is creating an invalid file? I guess it's possible, but probably not. Those things almost always stem from a system, which has a, sometimes very hidden, flaw of some sort. Granted, that makes it difficult to track down (e.g. extensions off or compare with tests on another computer), but there's rarely any way around it. It could of course stem from the application itself (directly in the code or indirectly as a compiler bug), but when only one user experiences a specific problem in a specific situation, it's highly unlikely that it's the application. If two on the other hand experiences _exactly_ the same thing, well that's different.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 22:51:10 -0800 From: Matthew Hill <happytwo at milepost1 dot com> Subject: Re: AutoShare 3.0.4b2 I have upgraded to 3.0.4b2. However i am still not getting my Log or Digest files. Any ideas?? Matthew Mikael Hansen wrote: > > The 3.0.4b2 archive has been uploaded to > > <ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/> > > +Added new folder button in standard folder dialog for select buttons > +Added status window start-up warning if no listmaster or bounce address > +Enabled use of /=mailback tokens in subject-specific auto-response files; > if use of mail-back keyword in subject, /=original or /=header token must > be present in mail-back confirmation file > +Added join and leave, which may be used for subscribing and unsubscribing; > use the letter R in Misc Stuff to reflect these commands in RFC headers > > ** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at: > ** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/> --
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 23:00:26 -0800 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: Type 10 Error/Vacation notice Redux At 19:26 -0800 1/22/99, Michael Wise wrote: > Hmmm. I still can't figure out. A type 10 error is equivalent to a No FPU (floating-point unit) Installed error, which occurs when an application expects to find an FPU which isn't there. The PowerPC chip, used by PowerMacs such as your 7200/90, has floating point support built in. So unless there's something screwy with the 7200/90 per se, it's my guess that it's some sort of a, most likely memory-related, conflict stemming from some third-party extension or the like of it. Let me be more specific here than I was last time. First have your system running with extensions on and EIMS running, but with AutoShare shut down. Wait until there's a message file in the Filed Mail folder. Then reboot with extensions off and start up AutoShare as the only application running. Let me know if the type 10 error then happens. Do _not_ make _any_ shortcuts doing this.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 19:29:22 -0800 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: huge message At 17:28 -0500 1/22/99, Gordon Shupe wrote: > header of message- the date stamp and message then repeat all the > way through the 65 meg file! They sure do, but no actual garbage. I couldn't make AutoShare repeat anything, so I'm just going to point out the following: > Message-ID: <36A65949.C57809F5@ix netcom dot com> > > Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 17:31:47 -0500 There's a blank line in the middle of the RFC header. > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) ;-)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 23:18:57 -0500 From: Gordon Shupe <gshupe at ix.netcom dot com> Subject: Re: huge message Mikael Hansen wrote: > > > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) > > ;-) Should I interpret this to mean that you are not a full-hearted supporter of Netscape mail clients, Mikael?
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 16:24:44 -0800 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: AutoShare 3.0.4b2 At 22:51 -0800 1/22/99, Matthew Hill wrote: > I have upgraded to 3.0.4b2. However i am still not getting my Log or > Digest files. Any ideas?? At 12:16 -0800 1/18/99, Mikael Hansen wrote [Re: Logs and Digests]: > This will happen if you have reconfigured your log and digest times > in 3.0.3, but haven't done so in 3.0.4b1. Reconfigure both times in > 3.0.4b1 with values _different_ from how they are and then click > the OK button. (And do it again with your desired values, if need > be.)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 05:23:53 -0800 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: AutoShare 3.0.4b3 The 3.0.4b3 archive has been uploaded to <ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/> It was reported by James and confirmed by me that subject-specific mail-backs for auto-responses in b2 were broken when the mail-back keyword is configured for the body. This appears to be working fine in b3. When mail-backs are enabled for auto-responses, it used to be configured by placing the /=mailback token in the Default document for the auto-response folder in question. The 3.0.4 betas have extended that into a subject-specific behaviour by picking up the /=mailback token of subject-specific documents. This brings up the story of the overburdened subject field, because when a confirmation is returned from the user, the original subject is no longer in the subject field and therefore cannot be used to find the proper document containing the /=mailback token. The solution is that the original subject is picked up from the quoted original RFC header, which is only possible if your document includes the /=original or /=header token. So keep that in mind! As for the type 10 errors reported by Michael Wise, he has kindly sent me several stdlogs, which so far confirm that AutoShare is not at fault and that the source of the problem is most likely an extension. I am waiting to hear the result of Michael running AutoShare (PPC as well as 68K) with all extensions off (the shift key down when rebooting). If you're running a 3.0.4 beta, be sure to run b3 as this is the only one that I can possibly comment on. I'll give it a little while, but am likely to release 3.0.4 soon due to the bug in 3.0.3.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 06:23:58 -0800 From: Matthew Hill <happytwo at milepost1 dot com> Subject: Re: AutoShare 3.0.4b2 I did reset the times. A couple of times. Any other ideas? Mikael Hansen wrote: > > At 22:51 -0800 1/22/99, Matthew Hill wrote: > > > I have upgraded to 3.0.4b2. However i am still not getting my Log or > > Digest files. Any ideas?? > > At 12:16 -0800 1/18/99, Mikael Hansen wrote [Re: Logs and Digests]: > > > This will happen if you have reconfigured your log and digest times > > in 3.0.3, but haven't done so in 3.0.4b1. Reconfigure both times in > > 3.0.4b1 with values _different_ from how they are and then click > > the OK button. (And do it again with your desired values, if need > > be.) > > ** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at: > ** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/> --
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 06:37:46 -0800 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: AutoShare 3.0.4b2 At 06:23 -0800 1/25/99, Matthew Hill wrote: > I did reset the times. A couple of times. Any other ideas? Did you select different values, e.g. hours, for both logs and digests?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 06:44:41 -0800 From: Matthew Hill <happytwo at milepost1 dot com> Subject: Re: AutoShare 3.0.4b2 I changed the time to different values than they were previous. Or do you mean separate times. One for digest and one for logs? Mikael Hansen wrote: > > At 06:23 -0800 1/25/99, Matthew Hill wrote: > > > I did reset the times. A couple of times. Any other ideas? > > Did you select different values, e.g. hours, for both logs and digests? > > ** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at: > ** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/> --
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 07:18:53 -0800 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: AutoShare 3.0.4b2 At 06:44 -0800 1/25/99, Matthew Hill wrote: > I changed the time to different values than they were previous. Yep, that's was I meant. In the server application, right? In the Admin, go to Extras -> Resources, type 204 in the ID field, 1 in the Index field and click the Get button. If the String field shows 3 numbers separated by spaces and the last number is zero, you have a problem; if the last number has many digits, you're fine. Repeat with an Index field value of 2. Shut down AutoShare and restart it. Then shut it down again and look at the end of the log file in the AutoShare preferences folder to see how many hours until logs and digests get mailed. Then restart AutoShare.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 07:41:32 -0800 From: Matthew Hill <happytwo at milepost1 dot com> Subject: Re: AutoShare 3.0.4b2 Help! Now what? The last number was a zero. The log file shows 32054:55:02. Is there anyway to fix this? Mikael Hansen wrote: > > At 06:44 -0800 1/25/99, Matthew Hill wrote: > > > I changed the time to different values than they were previous. > > Yep, that's was I meant. In the server application, right? > > In the Admin, go to Extras -> Resources, type 204 in the ID field, 1 > in the Index field and click the Get button. If the String field > shows 3 numbers separated by spaces and the last number is zero, you > have a problem; if the last number has many digits, you're fine. > Repeat with an Index field value of 2. > > Shut down AutoShare and restart it. Then shut it down again and look > at the end of the log file in the AutoShare preferences folder to see > how many hours until logs and digests get mailed. Then restart > AutoShare. > > ** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at: > ** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/> -- Matthew Hill Milepost 1 253-850-0787 happytwo at milepost1 dot com <http://www.milepost1.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:09:38 -0800 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: AutoShare 3.0.4b2 At 07:41 -0800 1/25/99, Matthew Hill wrote: > Help! Now what? The last number was a zero. The log file shows > 32054:55:02. > Is there anyway to fix this? Well, you can also go into the Admin, go to Extras -> Resources, type 204 in the ID field, 1 in the Index field, leave the String field blank and click the Set button. Repeat with an Index field value of 2. Shut down AutoShare and start it up again. Or shut down AutoShare, delete STR# 204 in the preferences file and start up AutoShare again. Once you're done, select your desired log and digest times.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 06:27:05 -0800 From: Matthew Hill <happytwo at milepost1 dot com> Subject: Re: AutoShare 3.0.4b2 Hi Mikael It looks like this one worked! Thanks!! Matthew Mikael Hansen wrote: > > At 06:44 -0800 1/25/99, Matthew Hill wrote: > > > I changed the time to different values than they were previous. > > Yep, that's was I meant. In the server application, right? > > In the Admin, go to Extras -> Resources, type 204 in the ID field, 1 > in the Index field and click the Get button. If the String field > shows 3 numbers separated by spaces and the last number is zero, you > have a problem; if the last number has many digits, you're fine. > Repeat with an Index field value of 2. > > Shut down AutoShare and restart it. Then shut it down again and look > at the end of the log file in the AutoShare preferences folder to see > how many hours until logs and digests get mailed. Then restart > AutoShare. > > ** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at: > ** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/> --
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:01:19 -0800 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Version 3.0.4 released It is peaceful these days, so the partial 3.0.4 archive is now at <ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/> If you haven't upgraded to 3.0, there is a complete 3.0.4 archive at <ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/More> The 3.0.4 archive is likely to show up at <mailto:AutoShare-software at dcl.co.uk?subject=AutoShare3.0.4 dot sit> and <http://www.dcl.co.uk/MacOS/email/autoshare/AutoShare3.0.4.sit.bin> as well as other mirror sites soonish. Thanks to Jochen for writing his web page located in the vacation process extender folder and to Randall for bringing up the List-ID RFC field.
Date: 29 Jan 99 13:21:09 -0600 From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us> Subject: RE: Version 3.0.4 released Reply to: RE: Version 3.0.4 released Also now avaliable at mailto:mailit at stumail.hopkins.k12.mn.us?subject=AutoShare3.0 dot 4 Chuck =======
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 17:32:07 -0500 From: "Christopher T. Payne" <CTPayne at lbl dot gov> Subject: Format of vacation reply message Greetings. I've perused the (daunting!) AutoShare reference, but I can't seem to find what I need in there. I'm hoping this list can provide some assistance. I've got AutoShare running to provide vacation reply services. The reply is working as it should, but the reply message is somewhat messy. This is what I see if I send a message to an account with an activated vacation message: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: pecoleman at mail.dc.lbl dot gov To: "Christopher T. Payne" <CTPayne at lbl dot gov> From: pecoleman at mail.dc.lbl dot gov Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 17:05:52 -0500 Precedence: bulk Subject: Test two Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 17:05:50 -0500 List-Software: AutoShare 3.0.4 by Mikael Hansen [text of the reply message] The subject line of this message is blank, and the "From" address is pecoleman at mail.dc.lbl dot gov. This is, for my purposes, suboptimal. Here's what I'd like to see: On the "From" information, the "Reply to" address of this user, which is PEColeman at lbl dot gov, not the actual mail account. On the subject line, "Re: Test two". In the body of the message, only [text of the reply message.] In other words, I need to change the From: line, change the Subject line, and suppress all the information that AutoShare inserted about Mime-Version, X-Sender, To, From, Date, Precedence, Subject, Date, and List-Software in the body of the message. Is this possible? If so, how would I go about doing it?
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:10:51 -0500 From: Jerry Thompson <mlists at ppdirect dot com> Subject: Sorry. The recipient address is not valid. Greetings, Why would I receive the below back from a subscription? The listserv address, my email address, and bounce acct are all correct. Thanks Jerry Thompson Webmaster ----------- Return-Path: <bounce at djbattle dot com> To: jthompson at strictly-urban dot com From: autoshare at djbattle dot com Errors-To: bounce at djbattle dot com Precedence: bulk Subject: subscribe soldiers jthompson at strictly-urban dot com Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:54:17 -0500 List-Software: AutoShare 3.0 by Mikael Hansen Message-Id: <800024849685584144430 at djbattle dot com> Sorry. The recipient address is not valid. > Return-Path: <jthompson at strictly-urban dot com> > Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (38.8.188.2) by ppdirect.com with SMTP > (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.2); Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:53:58 -0500 > Received: from [206.1.100.2] (helo=www.unknown.dom) > by relay2.smtp.psi.net with smtp (Exim 1.90 #1) > for autoshare at djbattle dot com > id 106Og1-00066a-00; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:54:22 -0500 > To: autoshare at djbattle dot com > From: jthompson at strictly-urban dot com > Subject: subscribe soldiers jthompson at strictly-urban dot com > Message-Id: <E106Og1-00066a-00 at relay2.smtp.psi dot net> > Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:54:22 -0500 > >
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 07:32:36 -0800 From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com> Subject: Re: Version 3.0.4 released At 9:01 PM -0800 on 1/28/99, Mikael Hansen wrote: > It is peaceful these days, so the partial 3.0.4 archive is now at > <ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/> > If you haven't upgraded to 3.0, there is a complete 3.0.4 archive at > <ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/More> > The 3.0.4 archive is likely to show up at > <mailto:AutoShare-software at dcl.co.uk?subject=AutoShare3.0.4 dot sit> > and > <http://www.dcl.co.uk/MacOS/email/autoshare/AutoShare3.0.4.sit.bin> > as well as other mirror sites soonish. > > Also available at http://pascal-central.com/autoshare/autoshare3.0.4.bin. +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Camelot Administrator, mailto:camelot.admin at lmco dot com | | Lockheed Martin, Enterprise Information Systems, Sunnyvale, CA | +----------------------------------------------------------------+
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 09:26:44 -0500 From: "Christopher T. Payne" <CTPayne at lbl dot gov> Subject: Error-To: Problem Greetings. I brought this problem up some time ago, but I don't recall that I ever received a response about how to deal with it. Well, I'm having it again. Server side: EIMS, AutoShare 3.04 running vacation replies. Client side - as the postmaster, I received the message below. The message is the automatic reply generated by AutoShare (user names XXXed out) Obviously, the mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc error-to line is incorrect. What can I do to change this? -CTP --------------- From: Postmaster at mail.dc.lbl dot gov To: CTPayne at lbl dot gov Subject: Undeliverable mail for XXX at YYY.nasa dot gov Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:35:53 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 The following message could not be delivered to XXX at YYY.nasa dot gov at host YYY.nasa.gov (XXX.XX.XXX.XX) because the message content was rejected. 554 buildaddr: no mailer in parsed address ----Unsent message follows---- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: XXX at mail.dc.lbl dot gov To: XXX <XXX at YYY.nasa dot gov> From: XXX at mail.dc.lbl dot gov Errors-To: CTPayne at mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail dot dc. mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc. mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc. mail Message-Id: <152903529597695270534 at lbl dot gov> Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:35:47 -0500 Precedence: bulk Subject: Re: [subject] Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:35:46 -0500 List-Software: AutoShare 3.0.4 by Mikael Hansen Dear Colleague, [vacation message here]
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 23:13:06 -0800 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: Format of vacation reply message At 17:32 -0500 1/29/99, Christopher T. Payne wrote: > This is what I see if I send a message to an account with an > activated vacation message: > > Mime-Version: 1.0 > X-Sender: pecoleman at mail.dc.lbl dot gov > To: "Christopher T. Payne" <CTPayne at lbl dot gov> > From: pecoleman at mail.dc.lbl dot gov > Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 17:05:52 -0500 > > > > Precedence: bulk > Subject: Test two > Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 17:05:50 -0500 > List-Software: AutoShare 3.0.4 by Mikael Hansen > > [text of the reply message] > > The subject line of this message is blank, Because of those blank lines in the middle of the RFC header. > and the "From" address is pecoleman at mail.dc.lbl dot gov. This is, for > my purposes, suboptimal. Here's what I'd like to see: > > On the "From" information, the "Reply to" address of this user, which is > PEColeman at lbl dot gov, not the actual mail account. The /=reply-to auto-response token may be of help to you. > On the subject line, "Re: Test two". > > In the body of the message, only [text of the reply message.] > > In other words, I need to change the From: line, change the Subject line, See the /=subject token for the latter. > and suppress all the information that AutoShare inserted about > Mime-Version, X-Sender, To, From, Date, Precedence, Subject, Date, and > List-Software in the body of the message. > > Is this possible? Not without also suppressing the original body. Looks like a request for a /=body token.
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 23:16:15 -0800 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: Sorry. The recipient address is not valid. At 20:10 -0500 1/29/99, Jerry Thompson wrote: > Why would I receive the below back from a subscription? The listserv > address, my email address, and bounce acct are all correct. > Sorry. The recipient address is not valid. It generally means that the domain of the SMTP envelope recipient address (see e.g. the To address in [] brackets in the status window) is different from the domain in the bounce address and any additional domain in the hosts file. Or that the recipient user name is unknown to AutoShare, but that is apparently not it (unless there's no document folder entitled AutoShare...). An upgrade to the current version is recommended of course :-) I plan on letting the above message be more specific at some point.
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 23:18:01 -0800 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: Error-To: Problem At 09:26 -0500 2/1/99, Christopher T. Payne wrote: > Greetings. I brought this problem up some time ago, but I don't recall that > I ever received a response about how to deal with it. Well, I'm having it > again. At 13:43 -0500 11/24/98, Christopher T. Payne wrote: > The problem: I receive bounced mail as the postmaster of the AutoShare > system. I'm getting mail that looks like the following: > > Error-To: > > > CTPayne at mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail dot d > c.mail.dc. mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc At 22:31 -0800 11/24/98, Mikael Hansen wrote: > If you could send me a pair of sample files (Stuffit'ed) from the > Filed Mail and Incoming Mail folders respectively, that would be > helpful. It still holds true!
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 17:08:42 -0500 From: "Christopher T. Payne" <CTPayne at lbl dot gov> Subject: Re: Error-To: Problem Mikael- Well, I apologize for being such a doofus. However, it appears I am doofus squared, as I can't find anything in either the Incoming or Filed Mail folders in EIMS. They're both empty. Obviously, I must be overlooking something pretty basic here. Any suggestions? -CTP >At 09:26 -0500 2/1/99, Christopher T. Payne wrote: > >> Greetings. I brought this problem up some time ago, but I don't recall that >> I ever received a response about how to deal with it. Well, I'm having it >> again. > >At 13:43 -0500 11/24/98, Christopher T. Payne wrote: > >> The problem: I receive bounced mail as the postmaster of the AutoShare >> system. I'm getting mail that looks like the following: >> >> Error-To: >> >> >> CTPayne at mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail dot d >> c.mail.dc. mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc.mail.dc > >At 22:31 -0800 11/24/98, Mikael Hansen wrote: > >> If you could send me a pair of sample files (Stuffit'ed) from the >> Filed Mail and Incoming Mail folders respectively, that would be >> helpful. > >It still holds true!
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:14:52 -0800 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: Error-To: Problem At 17:08 -0500 2/2/99, Christopher T. Payne wrote: > I can't find anything in either the Incoming or Filed Mail > folders in EIMS. They're both empty. They almost always are. As soon as the mail server puts a message file in the Filed Mail folder, AutoShare processes and deletes it. And as soon as AutoShare puts a message file in the Incoming Mail folder, the mail server grabs and deletes it. You need to find a way to make time stand still for each case until you have moved a copy of the file out of the folder. The most basic way of doing this is to create a temporarily situation, in which you have only one of the two server applications running. Another way is to go to the Extras menu and Disable Processing, so that AutoShare won't process any message file in the Filed Mail folder. You can also Enable Locking, so that processed files put in the Incoming mail folder are locked and shouldn't be touched by the mail server (I think that EIMS however is a bad boy in this respect). There are yet other ways, but I'm sure you get the picture.
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 25 Jan 1999 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:30:06 -0500 From: Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com> On 1/25/99 4:01 PM, AutoShare-Talk list said: >In the Admin, go to Extras -> Resources, type 204 in the ID field, 1 >in the Index field and click the Get button. If the String field >shows 3 numbers separated by spaces and the last number is zero, you >have a problem; if the last number has many digits, you're fine. >Repeat with an Index field value of 2. > >Shut down AutoShare and restart it. Then shut it down again and look >at the end of the log file in the AutoShare preferences folder to see >how many hours until logs and digests get mailed. Then restart >AutoShare. I did this, found a zero, and followed your instructions. Now I have a many-digit negative number as the third number. But I still don't get logs. I have waited a week. Charles L. Martin clmartin at theOmbudsman dot com http://www.theOmbudsman.com/Martin_Law/
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:22:57 -0800 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 25 Jan 1999 At 18:30 -0500 2/3/99, Charles L. Martin wrote: >>Shut down AutoShare and restart it. Then shut it down again and look >>at the end of the log file in the AutoShare preferences folder to see >>how many hours until logs and digests get mailed. Then restart >>AutoShare. > But I still don't get logs. I have waited a week. After you had changed the settings, how many hours until logs and digests get mailed did it say? By looking at that a week ago, you would have known what time to expect the logs. You can still do it following the above description. How many hours does it say now?
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 20:44:52 -0800 From: Matthew Hill <happytwo at milepost1 dot com> Subject: Logs Hi Is there a way to change the logs that autoshare sends out to the name of the list? matt
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 00:32:50 -0500 From: Jerry Thompson <mlists at ppdirect dot com> Subject: Built-In Database.. where? Greetings, Where is the list for Autoshare lists which use the built-in format located at? Are they saved within the "@listname" preferences or somewhere else? I would like to make sure I have a backup of a list before making some changes to it. Thanks Jerry Thompson PP List Management, Inc. http://www.ppdirect.com/
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:45:03 -0800 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: Logs At 20:44 -0800 2/3/99, Matthew Hill wrote: > Is there a way to change the logs that autoshare sends out to the name > of the list? If it doesn't already do it, I don't understand your question.
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 05:57:36 -0800 From: Matthew Hill <happytwo at milepost1 dot com> Subject: Re: Logs The logs come as autoshare report for listname. Could this be changed to something else. Mikael Hansen wrote: > > At 20:44 -0800 2/3/99, Matthew Hill wrote: > > > Is there a way to change the logs that autoshare sends out to the name > > of the list? > > If it doesn't already do it, I don't understand your question. > > ** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at: > ** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/>
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 07:06:09 -0800 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: Built-In Database.. where? At 00:32 -0500 2/4/99, Jerry Thompson wrote: > Where is the list for Autoshare lists which use the built-in format located > at? Are they saved within the "@listname" preferences or somewhere else? I > would like to make sure I have a backup of a list before making some > changes to it. I'm not sure I understand the question. If you're asking where the database format file for a list using the built-in format is, then see the section on "Subscriber list files and formats", "Built-in database format": "While the list file is still required in the List Server folder, this file may be empty as the subscribers are automatically stored in a file (having the same name) in the Databases folder inside the AutoShare preferences folder." Be sure to play with a test list first to get a feel for it.
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:51:05 -0800 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: Logs At 05:57 -0800 2/4/99, Matthew Hill wrote: > The logs come as autoshare report for listname. Could this be changed > to something else. The RFC subject field body of log report messages cannot be changed.
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 4 Feb 1999 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:12:03 -0500 From: Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com> On 2/4/99 4:02 PM, AutoShare-Talk list said: >>>Shut down AutoShare and restart it. Then shut it down again and look >>>at the end of the log file in the AutoShare preferences folder to see >>>how many hours until logs and digests get mailed. Then restart >>>AutoShare. > >> But I still don't get logs. I have waited a week. > >After you had changed the settings, how many hours until logs and >digests get mailed did it say? By looking at that a week ago, you >would have known what time to expect the logs. You can still do it >following the above description. How many hours does it say now? Hours? That¹s what it means? The log says the next log is in 31852:13:47,= and the next digest is in 31852:13:47. Both logs and digests are set to be sent at 4pm every day. When I went to the Extras->Resources and entered 204 in the ID field, and 1 in the String field, the result was: 1 18 -1294295296 Repeating with an ID of 2 did nothing. Charles L. Martin clmartin at theOmbudsman dot com http://www.theOmbudsman.com/Martin_Law/
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 17:52:16 +0100 From: "Serge Belleudy-d'Espinose" <sam at ijm.jussieu dot fr> Subject: vm or not vm ? Hi all I just bought a new g3 server with 64mo ram. Put 8.5.1, asip 6.1 only for ftp and file sharing, sims 1.7, qpq 212, and autoshare 304. Everything seems to run fine until now - and if it doesn't I have this wonderful maccoach thing, a must have :) My question is : with 64mo ram or more, Apple recommends to turn vm off. Should I follow this advice ? With 'so much' ram - not so much by today's requirements - will autoshare/sims/qpq run better with vm on or off ? (I will post this question in each relevant mlist; please apologize if you read it more than once) Thanks, SBE \ Serge BELLEUDY - d'ESPINOSE | Reseau & Macintosh / ) @: sam at ijm dot jussieu dot fr -+- Institut J. Monod - Tour 43 ( / http://www.ijm.jussieu.fr/ | 2 pl. Jussieu - 75251 Paris \
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:40:32 -0500 From: Cris Mooney <cmooney at jumpdev dot com> Subject: Re: vm or not vm ? Hi Serge: >My question is : with 64mo ram or more, Apple recommends to turn vm off. >Should I follow this advice ? With 'so much' ram - not so much by today's >requirements - will autoshare/sims/qpq run better with vm on or off ? I don't know about Apple's recommendation; certinaly it would be dependant on how much you value disk space, speed, and what applicaitons you run. As part of a product I work on, I put together many web pages about Virtual Memory. In specific I talk about the issues you asked about on the page: http://www.jumpdev.com/rc8/tech/tech0007.html This is not a sales pitch. The pages are technical, and I hope you find them useful regardless of our product. The information discussed applies to all Macs, not just to those using our product. Regards, Cris Mooney
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:35:17 -0800 From: Mark Hartman <mh-list at harthaven dot com> Subject: Re: vm or not vm ? MacOS pretty much always runs better with VM off, in my experience. Especially when one is doing lots of TCP/IP-related things, I think it's a good idea to get lots of physical memory and leave the VM completely out of it. FWIW. At 8:52 AM -0800 2/5/1999, Serge Belleudy-d'Espinose wrote: >Hi all > >I just bought a new g3 server with 64mo ram. Put 8.5.1, asip 6.1 only for >ftp and file sharing, sims 1.7, qpq 212, and autoshare 304. Everything >seems to run fine until now - and if it doesn't I have this wonderful >maccoach thing, a must have :) > >My question is : with 64mo ram or more, Apple recommends to turn vm off. >Should I follow this advice ? With 'so much' ram - not so much by today's >requirements - will autoshare/sims/qpq run better with vm on or off ? > >(I will post this question in each relevant mlist; please apologize if you >read it more than once) > >Thanks, > >SBE > >\ Serge BELLEUDY - d'ESPINOSE | Reseau & Macintosh / > ) @: sam at ijm dot jussieu dot fr -+- Institut J. Monod - Tour 43 ( >/ http://www.ijm.jussieu.fr/ | 2 pl. Jussieu - 75251 Paris \ > > > > >** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at: >** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/>
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 21:33:23 -0500 From: Jerry Thompson <mlists at ppdirect dot com> Subject: Re: vm or not vm ? >MacOS pretty much always runs better with VM off, in my experience. > >Especially when one is doing lots of TCP/IP-related things, I think it's >a good idea to get lots of physical memory and leave the VM completely >out of it. > >FWIW. > >At 8:52 AM -0800 2/5/1999, Serge Belleudy-d'Espinose wrote: >>Hi all >> >>I just bought a new g3 server with 64mo ram. Put 8.5.1, asip 6.1 only for >>ftp and file sharing, sims 1.7, qpq 212, and autoshare 304. Everything >>seems to run fine until now - and if it doesn't I have this wonderful >>maccoach thing, a must have :) >> >>My question is : with 64mo ram or more, Apple recommends to turn vm off. >>Should I follow this advice ? With 'so much' ram - not so much by today's >>requirements - will autoshare/sims/qpq run better with vm on or off ? >> >>(I will post this question in each relevant mlist; please apologize if you >>read it more than once) In my observations, my server always appear to run more efficiently with VM turned ON. If I remember correctly, memory management is better even if you have VM turned on to +1MB over physical RAM (default). VM was always a problem for 68k and OS's before 8.0 as far as I thought. But for argument sake, I'd try it with it on and off, run a few apps like Pounder to see how the system reacts... and then go from there. Best Regards, Jerry Thompson PP List Management, Inc. http://www.ppdirect.com
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 21:38:12 -0500 From: Jerry Thompson <mlists at ppdirect dot com> Subject: Sorry. Recipient Not Found (part II) Greetings, Double checked all of the preferences, even created new ones for AS and the lists... same problem. Norton saw no problem with the HD... Rebuilt desktop files from scratch. Any list subscription request returns the same error. AS processes the request and the user gets the same error email back. I don't know where to look for the problem now as I've spent about 2 hours trying everything. For example... send email to: autoshare at djbattle dot com with the sub: subscribe soldiers NAME Any thoughts? Best Regards, Jerry Thompson PP List Management, Inc. http://www.ppdirect.com
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 16:48:53 -0500 From: Steve Wiedemann <swiedem at henninger dot com> Subject: Re: VM and ASIP This is in response to the post regarding Virtual Memory and AppleShare IP, although it isn't directly related to AutoShare. I agree with Jerry Thompson that MacOS runs much better with VM turned off. Even though 64 megs of ram isn't a lot these days, ram is pretty cheap so just put in enough to do the job....except when it comes to AppleShare IP. It seems that ASIP has a bug that continually grabs more and more memory as it operates until all available ram is consumed. Serge, if your machine halts for no apparent reason, this may be the cause. For details, I recommend reading http://www.macintouch.com/asip6mem.html. In fact, the Macintouch site should be a daily read for all Mac users. -- Steve Wiedemann Sr.VP, Director of Technology Henninger Media Services http://www.henninger.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 07:21:36 -0800 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: Sorry. Recipient Not Found (part II) At 21:38 -0500 2/6/99, Jerry Thompson wrote: > Any list subscription request returns the same error. AS processes the It certainly is strange in your environment that autoshare@ is not recognized as a valid user in a recipient address. It may be a corrupt preferences file. Try shutting down AutoShare, moving the AutoShare preferences folder somewhere else and starting AutoShare up again. See if you can reproduce it in the new temporary virgin environment.
Date: 12 Feb 99 15:04:28 -0600 From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us> Subject: Turning off Archives In the Documentation for AutoShare I read: You may choose both text and HTML formatted archives (rather than just one = or the other). Having chosen this option (in the AutoShare application or = using AppleScript; the Admin, see the List window), both text and HTML formatted = archive files are created if necessary and updated when a list = contribution is processed. I've been to the List window (and More List and Yet More List) several = times. I can see no options (in version 3.0.4) for Adjusting the type of = archives. = In fact, I don't want archives. When I started up version 3.0.4 it = carefully created archive folders for all of the listservs. How do I get = rid of archiving completely? It's Friday...maybe I'm just to tired to = think this through (I've got to stop hanging out until 2:00 AM after my = Thursday rehearsal!). = Thanks for getting me back on the right path....at least about archives :->= Chuck Boody Analyst/Programmer ISD 270 =======
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 11:52:29 -0800 From: Matthew Hill <happytwo at milepost1 dot com> Subject: preprocesor Hi What i am looking for is a preprocessor that will grab the email to the list server check to be sure there is an email address, name, and user number. Then to check to be sure they can subscribe to a given list. If they can then subscribe them and add all the info to a data base. Can any of you guys write something like this? Willing to pay. You can write to me privately. Thanks for any help. Matthew
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:06:52 +0100 From: Jochen Haeberle <listen at MIDRAS dot de> Subject: AutoShare List Mails to Netscape users Hi, I brought this up a while ago, but did not find a soultion to the problem. When AutoShare (3.0.3 at the moment) is sending mail (AutoReply or list-postings) to users using Netscape, they can only read the subject line of the message, the body seems to be empty. Only if people look at _the source_ of the message, they will find the actual message. Is there anything I can do about this in AutoShare? Regards Jochen