Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 21:49:04 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Setting maximum message size
At 14:58 -0500 6/29/99, Laine Lee wrote:
>How is this accomplished?
In the Admin, Command-L, select the list, click the List button, find
the Lines field towards the right of the window.
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 21:52:57 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Assistance w/"aliases", please
At 16:43 -0600 6/29/99, Steve Jones wrote:
>Under EIMS 1.x I used to have two addresses (listserv and listserve)
>that forwarded to another address, autoshare, which in turn "saved
>as files" to do the usual list maintenance things it should like
>sub, unsub, review, etc. After upgrading to EIMS 2.2, messages to
>listserv and listserve are returned with the following:
>
>Sorry. The user of the recipient address is not valid. 550 ... User
>unknown Please contact postmaster at info.comm.uic dot edu
>
>Messages to autoshare work fine. How can I get this to again work? I
>tried setting listserv and listserve to save as files, but that
>didn't work either.
This has never been explicitly supported by AutoShare. I am not sure
why the upgrade of EIMS form 1.x to 2.x would change it, but it's my
guess it has to do with internal forwards and not updating the
envelope recipient.
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 21:57:15 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Assistance w/multiple domains, please
At 16:43 -0600 6/29/99, Steve Jones wrote:
>I'm trying to set up separate lists for separate domain names using
>Autoshare 4.x and EIMS 2.2.2. I have two domain names
>(info.comm.uic.edu and aoir.org) pointing to one IP number on one
>machine (131.193.132.112). I'd like to have one list that's
>something like info-list at info.comm.uic dot edu (which works at present)
>and another that's air-l at aoir dot org (which doesn't work at present).
>When I send to air-l at aoir dot org the name that's returned by the
>listserve is aoir-l at info.comm.uic dot edu.
Are you merely specifying aoir.org as a second entry in the host
file, or have you gone all the way using multiple preference sets?
From: Laine Lee <LLee at utsa dot edu>
Subject: RE: Setting maximum message size
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 11:54:10 -0500
Thanks for the response, Mikael.
This is what I had tried before receiving your response, and I hoped I had
made a mistake that would be easy for me to identify from your response, but
no luck so far. I entered 300 in the lines field, then sent a message in
excess of 315 lines to the list that the setting was made for. I then sent a
message in excess of 630 lines to the same list. Both were distributed to
the lists as if no changes had been made. I did click "update" in admin when
I entered the settings. I restarted both AutoShare and Admin and the
settings appeared as I expected, so I have no idea whe the new setting seems
to have no effect. Any ideas about what I'm doing wrong? Thanks.
> ----------
> From: Mikael Hansen
> Reply To: autoshare-talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk
> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 11:49 PM
> To: autoshare-talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk
> Subject: Re: Setting maximum message size
>
> At 14:58 -0500 6/29/99, Laine Lee wrote:
>
> >How is this accomplished?
>
> In the Admin, Command-L, select the list, click the List button, find
> the Lines field towards the right of the window.
>
>
>
> ** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
> ** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/>
>
>
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 12:40:04 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: RE: Setting maximum message size
At 11:54 -0500 7/1/99, Laine Lee wrote:
>Thanks for the response, Mikael.
>
>This is what I had tried before receiving your response, and I hoped I had
>made a mistake that would be easy for me to identify from your response, but
>no luck so far. I entered 300 in the lines field, then sent a message in
>excess of 315 lines to the list that the setting was made for. I then sent a
>message in excess of 630 lines to the same list. Both were distributed to
>the lists as if no changes had been made. I did click "update" in admin when
>I entered the settings. I restarted both AutoShare and Admin and the
>settings appeared as I expected, so I have no idea whe the new setting seems
>to have no effect. Any ideas about what I'm doing wrong? Thanks.
While I can't offer any suggestions, I just tested with a message
file, whose body contains 18 lines; AutoShare was configured to
suppress list contributions with more than 5 lines. It worked quite
nicely; the envelope recipient of the processed message file was the
list master, and the following was inserted at the beginning of the
message body:
************************************************************
Message body too big (18 > 5), forwarded to the moderator
************************************************************
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 16:12:36 -0600
From: Steve Jones <sjones at info.comm.uic dot edu>
Subject: Re: Re: Assistance w/"aliases", please
>Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 21:52:57 -0700
>From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
>Reply-To: AutoShare-Talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (Subscribers of AutoShare-Talk)
>Subject: Re: Assistance w/"aliases", please
>
>At 16:43 -0600 6/29/99, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> >Under EIMS 1.x I used to have two addresses (listserv and listserve)
> >that forwarded to another address, autoshare, which in turn "saved
> >as files" to do the usual list maintenance things it should like
> >sub, unsub, review, etc. After upgrading to EIMS 2.2, messages to
> >listserv and listserve are returned with the following:
> >
> >Sorry. The user of the recipient address is not valid. 550 ... User
> >unknown Please contact postmaster at info.comm.uic dot edu
> >
> >Messages to autoshare work fine. How can I get this to again work? I
> >tried setting listserv and listserve to save as files, but that
> >didn't work either.
>
>This has never been explicitly supported by AutoShare. I am not sure
>why the upgrade of EIMS form 1.x to 2.x would change it, but it's my
>guess it has to do with internal forwards and not updating the
>envelope recipient.
Ah, shoot. Well...at least the autoshare address works!
Thanks,
Sj
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 16:31:52 -0500
From: Randy Phillips <phillips at finan dot com>
Subject: Autoshare Admin Sluggish
Hi folks,
I am using Autoshare Admin 2.3 application on a remote computer over an
Appletalk network and boy is it sloooow. It used to not be nearly this
slow but somewhere along the line I must have changed something. Any
ideas on what might cause this?
--
Randy Phillips, Web Manager/Developer
Finan Publishing
107 West Pacific Ave.
St. Louis, Mo. 63119
314-961-6644
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 16:15:57 -0600
From: Steve Jones <sjones at info.comm.uic dot edu>
Subject: Re: Re: Assistance w/multiple domains, please
>Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 21:57:15 -0700
>From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
>Reply-To: AutoShare-Talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (Subscribers of AutoShare-Talk)
>Subject: Re: Assistance w/multiple domains, please
>
>At 16:43 -0600 6/29/99, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> >I'm trying to set up separate lists for separate domain names using
> >Autoshare 4.x and EIMS 2.2.2. I have two domain names
> >(info.comm.uic.edu and aoir.org) pointing to one IP number on one
> >machine (131.193.132.112). I'd like to have one list that's
> >something like info-list at info.comm.uic dot edu (which works at present)
> >and another that's air-l at aoir dot org (which doesn't work at present).
> >When I send to air-l at aoir dot org the name that's returned by the
> >listserve is aoir-l at info.comm.uic dot edu.
>
>Are you merely specifying aoir.org as a second entry in the host
>file, or have you gone all the way using multiple preference sets?
>
>--============_-1330447866==_d============--
>
>** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
>** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/>
Just the former...will try the latter. Thanks for bringing it to my atention.
Sj
From: Laine Lee <LLee at utsa dot edu>
Subject: RE: Setting maximum message size
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 17:01:34 -0500
I found that an oversized message sent from a Eudora pop account had the
expected results and "message too big" header alert as you describe, but the
same message sent to the same list from a Microsoft Exchange server account
was distributed by AutoShare with no alert. I'm stumped.
> ----------
> From: Mikael Hansen
> Reply To: autoshare-talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk
> Sent: Thursday, July 1, 1999 2:40 PM
> To: autoshare-talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk
> Subject: RE: Setting maximum message size
>
> At 11:54 -0500 7/1/99, Laine Lee wrote:
>
> >Thanks for the response, Mikael.
> >
> >This is what I had tried before receiving your response, and I hoped I
> had
> >made a mistake that would be easy for me to identify from your response,
> but
> >no luck so far. I entered 300 in the lines field, then sent a message in
> >excess of 315 lines to the list that the setting was made for. I then
> sent a
> >message in excess of 630 lines to the same list. Both were distributed to
> >the lists as if no changes had been made. I did click "update" in admin
> when
> >I entered the settings. I restarted both AutoShare and Admin and the
> >settings appeared as I expected, so I have no idea whe the new setting
> seems
> >to have no effect. Any ideas about what I'm doing wrong? Thanks.
>
> While I can't offer any suggestions, I just tested with a message
> file, whose body contains 18 lines; AutoShare was configured to
> suppress list contributions with more than 5 lines. It worked quite
> nicely; the envelope recipient of the processed message file was the
> list master, and the following was inserted at the beginning of the
> message body:
>
> ************************************************************
> Message body too big (18 > 5), forwarded to the moderator
> ************************************************************
>
>
>
> ** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
> ** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/>
>
>
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 01:12:36 +0100
From: James Berriman <james at acoustic.demon.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Setting maximum message size
At 23:01 +0100 1/7/1999, Laine Lee wrote:
>I found that an oversized message sent from a Eudora pop account had the
>expected results and "message too big" header alert as you describe, but the
>same message sent to the same list from a Microsoft Exchange server account
>was distributed by AutoShare with no alert. I'm stumped.
It occurs to me that Eudora may be wrapping the text, while the exchange
server is allowing long paragraphs through unwrapped. These unwrapped
paragraphs would probably appear to AutoShare as a relatively small number
of very long lines.
( :-]) James
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 19:42:06 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Autoshare Admin Sluggish
At 16:31 -0500 7/1/99, Randy Phillips wrote:
>I am using Autoshare Admin 2.3 application on a remote computer over an
>Appletalk network and boy is it sloooow. It used to not be nearly this
>slow but somewhere along the line I must have changed something. Any
>ideas on what might cause this?
If we rule out other factors such as networking, it would usually
boil down to how much time AutoShare yields to other applications. If
you lower the number in the Ticks field (in the Admin, Command-M) to
zero, AutoShare will respond to AppleEvents to the Admin a good deal
faster. A hogging value of zero may not be what the other
applications favor however.
A compromise was implemented in the AutoShare server application at
some point, perhaps later than version 2.3: when an AppleEvent is
received, the tick value will temporarily be at zero, so that
subsequent Admin interaction feels smoother. After a while, the
server application would then return to the normal tick value.
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 01:54:40 +0200
From: HOnza Koudelka <koudelka at appleklub dot cz>
Subject: Admin 4.0 - what's wrong?
Hello, again... :-)
I am trying to upgrade from AS 2.3 to AS 4.0. I downloaded the full
archive from FTP, but...
The Admin application is distributed with FaceSpan Extension version 2.1.
If I try to use it with this extension, it gives me an error that the
version of FaceSpan Extension is too old.
If I try it with FaceSpan Extension 3.0, it shows alert "File not
open with write permission (-61)". Sometimes I get also a message
"Resource not found (-192)".
What's wrong???
HOnza
--
If you are crazy enough, look at http://www.appleklub.cz/~koudelka/
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 19:57:06 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Admin 4.0 - what's wrong?
At 01:54 +0200 7/5/99, HOnza Koudelka wrote:
>Hello, again... :-)
:-)
>I am trying to upgrade from AS 2.3 to AS 4.0. I downloaded the full
>archive from FTP, but...
>
>The Admin application is distributed with FaceSpan Extension version 2.1.
>
>If I try to use it with this extension, it gives me an error that
>the version of FaceSpan Extension is too old.
You are most likely missing a few QuickTime extensions which FaceSpan
2.1 somehow needs to work properly. <http://www.apple.com/quicktime/>
(Now rushing out to the barbeque on the patio to grab a few hotdogs
before the grand fireworks commence...)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 10:56:53 +0900
From: "Richard M. Pavonarius" <richard at global-commons.co dot jp>
Subject: problem with remote subscribe
This works:
<password> subscribe richard at lists.att.virtualclassroom dot org new-highschool
This doesn't:
<password> subscribe chris.betcher at schoolsnet.syd.catholic.edu dot au
new-highschool Chris Betcher
Why not? Is there a problem with having a period in the username?
Also, is there a way to get "Mr. First Last" to work? People get subscribed
as "Mr. First" or just "First" or no name at all.
Thanks,
Rich
------------------------------------------------------------------
Richard M. Pavonarius, Global Commons, Inc., Tokyo
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 19:30:37 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: problem with remote subscribe
At 10:56 +0900 7/9/99, Richard M. Pavonarius wrote:
>This works:
>
><password> subscribe richard at lists.att.virtualclassroom dot org new-highschool
>
>This doesn't:
>
><password> subscribe chris.betcher at schoolsnet.syd.catholic.edu dot au
>new-highschool Chris Betcher
>
>Why not? Is there a problem with having a period in the username?
>
>Also, is there a way to get "Mr. First Last" to work? People get subscribed
>as "Mr. First" or just "First" or no name at all.
Make sure that you have word-wrapping turned off in your mails,
otherwise a long line will be broken into several lines.
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 07:12:12 +0200
From: Giedo De Snijder <igiedsn at giedsn.eunet dot be>
Subject: Monthly Help File
Hi,
In May I have already asked a question about Monthly Help Files not
being sent when a new month was starting.
After making real files instead of aliases for the Month.<list>
files, my Monthly Help Files for June were sent.
To my surprise I didn't get any at the first of July while AutoShare
was running at that time.
I am still using version 3.1.1b2.
Any idea what could probably cause this behaviour ?
I don't see what I can do more than placing a file Month.<list> for a
configured list at the appropriate place.
Thank you for your help.
Giedo De Snijder
<mailto: gds at abitmore dot be>
++++
aBITmore
resultaatgericht ondernemen via internet
tel (03)360 90 69
http://abitmore.be/
++++
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:39:54 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Monthly Help File
At 07:12 +0200 7/18/99, Giedo De Snijder wrote:
>In May I have already asked a question about Monthly Help Files not
>being sent when a new month was starting.
>After making real files instead of aliases for the Month.<list>
>files, my Monthly Help Files for June were sent.
>To my surprise I didn't get any at the first of July while AutoShare
>was running at that time.
>I am still using version 3.1.1b2.
>Any idea what could probably cause this behaviour ?
>I don't see what I can do more than placing a file Month.<list> for
>a configured list at the appropriate place.
>Thank you for your help.
I'd suggest that you upgrade from the beta to the released 4.0.
You can also send a manual month message to yourself by issuing the
month command in remote administration by e-mail.
<password> month igiedsn at giedsn.eunet dot be <list>
This test should tell you if things are in place.
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:52:30 +0800
From: Derek Tom <derek at bbdo.com dot hk>
Subject: Can't post to list
Help!! I'm frustrated after 5 tries - each time changing something
different - to simply post a message to our list. Here's the error I
keep getting even though the word "review" or any other listserv
command I know of is nowhere in my message:
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:43:16 +0800
Reply-To: bbdo-is at bbdo.com dot hk (Subscribers of bbdo-is)
Precedence: bulk
List-Id: bbdo-is.bbdo.com.hk
List-Software: AutoShare 3.1.1b1 by Mikael Hansen
To: bbdo-is at bbdo.com dot hk (Subscribers of bbdo-is)
From: Derek Tom <derek at bbdo.com dot hk>
Subject: BBDO: BBDO Website information
************************************************************
ATTENTION PLEASE
Sorry. Your message did NOT get posted or forwarded
The word review is a list server command
A list server command must be sent to the list server address
The list server address is autoshare at bbdo.com dot hk
************************************************************
Who do we email for amendments to information - including email
addresses for the directory - on the following sites?
http://www.bbdo.com
http://inside.bbdo.com
http://directory.bbdo.com
I got this message from the managing director of BBDO/Guerrero
Ortega, Manila, Philippines:
--------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 15:15:10 +0800
To: Derek Tom <derek at bbdo.com dot hk>
From: David Guerrero <dguerrero at bbdo-go dot com>
Subject: Re: change of address
Thanks Derek.
Actually they had the wrong phone, fax and street address for us.
What we should be is:
BBDO/Guerrero Ortega
24th Floor
6750 Ayala Avenue
Makati City
Metro Manila
The Philippines
(+632) 892 0701 - phone
(+632) 892 7501 - fax
--------------------
Thanks,
Derek
BBDO Asia Pacific
Hong Kong
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 04:46:49 +0100
From: James Berriman <james at acoustic.demon.co dot uk>
Subject: Re: Can't post to list
Derek,
The word "Who" (which starts your message) is recognised by AutoShare
as an alternative for the review command.
You may want to upgrade to the latest version of AutoShare. See message below:
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 20:00:00 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: The word review is a list server command ???
At 23:25 +0100 5/19/99, James Berriman wrote:
>AutoShare treats "who" as an alternative for the "review" command. As the
>first line of the message begins with "Who", the "review" command filter
>was triggered.
>
>It would certainly make more sense to the subscriber if the AutoShare
>response said:
>
> >The word 'who' is a list server command
I have added this improvement to the next version.
( :-]) James
--
Website: <http://www.acoustic.demon.co.uk> Phone: +44 (0)1782 720368
I support the Campaign for Unmetered Telecommunications
<http://www.unmetered.org.uk/>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:23:30 +0800
From: Derek Tom <derek at bbdo.com dot hk>
Subject: Re: Can't post to list
At 4:46am +0100, 7/21/99, James Berriman <james at acoustic.demon.co dot uk> wrote:
>The word "Who" (which starts your message) is recognised by
>AutoShare as an alternative for the review command.
>
>You may want to upgrade to the latest version of AutoShare. See message below:
Hi James,
Thanks very much for your swift response and, indeed, helpful answer
and suggestion!
All the best,
Derek
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Derek Tom
IT Director
BBDO Asia Pacific
tel: 852.9017.3050
email: derek at bbdo.com dot hk
web: http://derek.bbdo.com.hk
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 21:47:09 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Can't post to list
At 04:46 +0100 7/21/99, James Berriman wrote:
James, what are you doing up at 4:46 in the morning? ;-)
It may be added that checking list contributions for list server
commands can be turned off. In the Admin, Command-J, find the field
Suppress Commands to List.
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:14:57 +0800
From: Derek Tom <derek at bbdo.com dot hk>
Subject: Mail loops
Can mail loops caused by autorepies/vacation notices be prevented on
AutoShare or does it have to be done on the client's end (using
"Bulk" filtering or something similar to AutoShare's feature which
only sends 1 autoreply to any single account)?
Thanks for any insight!
Cheers,
Derek
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Derek Tom
IT Director
BBDO Asia Pacific
tel: 852.9017.3050
email: derek at bbdo.com dot hk
web: http://derek.bbdo.com.hk
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 19:21:33 +0800
From: Derek Tom <derek at bbdo.com dot hk>
Subject: Re: Can't post to list
At 9:47pm -0700, 7/20/99, Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> wrote:
>It may be added that checking list contributions for list server
>commands can be turned off. In the Admin, Command-J, find the field
>Suppress Commands to List.
Thanks very much for that point... and for creating the awesome
AutoShare listserv, Mikael!
Strangely enough, I checked and the Surpress Commands to List was set
to "Always". But I figured it might be because I'm still running
3.1.1b1. I will upgrade very soon! (BTW, when upgrading, do I really
need to clear the logs and the current archive files for each list?)
Thanks again,
Derek
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Derek Tom
IT Director
BBDO Asia Pacific
tel: 852.9017.3050
email: derek at bbdo.com dot hk
web: http://derek.bbdo.com.hk
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:34:53 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Can't post to list
At 19:21 +0800 7/21/99, Derek Tom wrote:
>Thanks very much for that point... and for creating the awesome
>AutoShare listserv, Mikael!
Thanks :-)
>Strangely enough, I checked and the Surpress Commands to List was
>set to "Always".
"Always" (the default) means that a list contribution will be
suppressed if a list command is detected in the list contribution.
>But I figured it might be because I'm still running 3.1.1b1. I will
>upgrade very soon!
Good idea!
>(BTW, when upgrading, do I really need to clear the logs and the
>current archive files for each list?)
This is only needed (for the "current" files) if changes to the log
and/or digest/archive formats have taken place between the version
you're using and the version you're upgrading to. The various release
notes should list such changes.
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:37:06 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Mail loops
At 18:14 +0800 7/21/99, Derek Tom wrote:
>Can mail loops caused by autorepies/vacation notices be prevented on
>AutoShare or does it have to be done on the client's end (using
>"Bulk" filtering or something similar to AutoShare's feature which
>only sends 1 autoreply to any single account)?
AutoShare does "precedence: bulk" etc protection automatically.
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:10:57 +0800
From: Derek Tom <derek at bbdo.com dot hk>
Subject: Re: Mail loops
>>Can mail loops caused by autorepies/vacation notices be prevented
>>on AutoShare or does it have to be done on the client's end (using
>>"Bulk" filtering or something similar to AutoShare's feature which
>>only sends 1 autoreply to any single account)?
>
>AutoShare does "precedence: bulk" etc protection automatically.
Thanks for your quick reply, Mikael!
But the autoreply user's mail server has to support that, no?
Here's the message that caused a loop on one of our lists and each
time it got posted back to the list (every 2 minutes to 60
subscribers!) it got bigger because it kept quoting the original
message (by the time I got into the office to stop it at 6:30am, that
text-only message was 30K! ;) ):
====Date: Tue, 20 Jul 99 0:24:36 +0100
Reply-To: bbdo-is at bbdo.com dot hk (Subscribers of bbdo-is)
Precedence: bulk
List-Id: bbdo-is.bbdo.com.hk
List-Software: AutoShare 3.1.1b1 by Mikael Hansen
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
To: bbdo-is at bbdo.com dot hk (Subscribers of bbdo-is)
From: <MAILER-DAEMON at bbdo dot de>
Subject: BBDO: Undeliverable Message
X-Incognito-SN: 1492
X-Incognito-Version: 4.11.23
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: SMTP@EDPServices@BBDODUS["Subscribers of bbdo-is"
<bbdo-is at bbdo.com dot hk>]
Cc:
Subject: BBDO: Undeliverable Message
Message not delivered to recipients below. Press F1 for help with VNM
error codes.
VNM3043: Rainer Pfennig@EDP@BBDODUS
VNM3043 -- MAILBOX IS FULL
The message cannot be delivered because the
recipient's mailbox contains the maximum number of
messages, as set by the system administrator. The
recipient must delete some messages before any
other messages can be delivered.
The maximum message limit for a user's mailbox is
10,000. The default message limit is 1000 messages.
Administrators can set message limits using the
Mailbox Settings function available in the
Manage User menu (MUSER).
When a user's mailbox reaches the limit, the
user must delete some of the messages before
the mailbox can accept any more incoming messages.
---------------------- Original Message Follows ----------------------
Blah, blah, blah...
==============
I figure there would be no way for AutoShare to intelligently stop
that loop. Please let me know otherwise.
Thanks for your time in helping answer my silly questions.
Cheers,
Derek
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:12:47 +0800
From: Derek Tom <derek at bbdo.com dot hk>
Subject: Re: Can't post to list
At 12:34pm -0700, 7/21/99, you wrote:
>>Strangely enough, I checked and the Surpress Commands to List was
>>set to "Always".
>
>"Always" (the default) means that a list contribution will be
>suppressed if a list command is detected in the list contribution.
Gosh, yes, that does make sense to me now - thanks!!
>This is only needed (for the "current" files) if changes to the log
>and/or digest/archive formats have taken place between the version
>you're using and the version you're upgrading to. The various
>release notes should list such changes.
Right - thanks!
All the best,
Derek
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:37:56 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Mail loops
At 10:10 +0800 7/22/99, Derek Tom wrote:
>>AutoShare does "precedence: bulk" etc protection automatically.
>But the autoreply user's mail server has to support that, no?
Well, yes. Some auto-responders, often client e-mailers not designed
as servers but used as such, are brain-dead and adds no protection
whatsoever when sending. If the auto-response looks like a regular
mail, AutoShare has little chance of seeing it as anything else than
just that.
If there is just a hint of it not being a regular mail, e.g.
"vacation" or "away" is in the subject field, you can set up a filter
file for your list to kill it. If there is no hint at all, I guess
you could compare the second mail to the first mail, and if they are
"adequately" identical, then go kill the loop at that time.
AutoShare doesn't at this time offer a built-in feature to support a
technique such as this specifically, but that shouldn't hold back a
vivid imagination (not me) and some free time (me neither) from
coming up with a script doing it.
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:53:27 +0800
From: Derek Tom <derek at bbdo.com dot hk>
Subject: Re: Mail loops
At 12:37am -0700, 7/22/99, Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> wrote:
>>>AutoShare does "precedence: bulk" etc protection automatically.
>
>>But the autoreply user's mail server has to support that, no?
>
>Well, yes. Some auto-responders, often client e-mailers not designed
>as servers but used as such, are brain-dead and adds no protection
>whatsoever when sending. If the auto-response looks like a regular
>mail, AutoShare has little chance of seeing it as anything else than
>just that.
>
>If there is just a hint of it not being a regular mail, e.g.
>"vacation" or "away" is in the subject field, you can set up a
>filter file for your list to kill it. If there is no hint at all, I
>guess you could compare the second mail to the first mail, and if
>they are "adequately" identical, then go kill the loop at that time.
Yes, that would be quite clever... sort of semi AI! ;)
>AutoShare doesn't at this time offer a built-in feature to support a
>technique such as this specifically, but that shouldn't hold back a
>vivid imagination (not me) and some free time (me neither) from
>coming up with a script doing it.
HA, HA!!! ;) ...Love the bits you typed in parentheses! That feature
sure would be nice to have. I wish I knew AppleScript or some
programming to help but I don't!
Thanks again, Mikael!
Cheers,
Derek
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:36:54 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: Can't post to list
At 4:46 AM +0100 on 7/21/99, James Berriman wrote:
> Derek,
>
> The word "Who" (which starts your message) is recognised by AutoShare
> as an alternative for the review command.
>
I'd like to chime in on this topic with an enhancement request.
These command words being placed into e-mail sneak up on you quite often,
especially since the command words are common words used in everyday
communications. In the above case, it was in the body of the message, and
in my case, this crops up when these words show up in the subject (my list
is configured for subject commands).
I realize this is built-in to help prevent list commands from being sent to
the entire mailing list, which does happen from time to time. However, I
would prefer that there be an option to turn that off. In other words, if
it's sent to the list, don't give a hoot if there's any command words
detected, just post it as is. By making this an option, those who prefer
the current method can keep it, and those who would prefer not to have
posts rejected because they start with "Who" can have their way too.
Or is there some letter to specify in the list config to already do this? :)
Bill
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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:37:52 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: Can't post to list
At 9:47 PM -0700 on 7/20/99, Mikael Hansen wrote:
> At 04:46 +0100 7/21/99, James Berriman wrote:
>
> James, what are you doing up at 4:46 in the morning? ;-)
>
> It may be added that checking list contributions for list server
> commands can be turned off. In the Admin, Command-J, find the field
> Suppress Commands to List.
>
*LOL*
Hey Mikael, ignore my last post. ;)
Thanks,
Bill
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Subject: web subscription form
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:14:23 -0400
From: Lists <lists at tinymind dot com>
Hello!
I have had a hard time getting web subscription forms to work right. I am
running 4.0 as a cgi under Quid Pro Quo. I want forms that simply have a
pull down with the options of subscribe, unsubscribe and then a text box
for typing in your email followed by a subscription form. Sometimes I
will want a digest option as a second pull down.
I have not figured out how to do that.
Thanks!
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:53:33 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: web subscription form
At 13:14 -0400 7/22/99, Lists wrote:
>I have had a hard time getting web subscription forms to work right. I am
>running 4.0 as a cgi under Quid Pro Quo. I want forms that simply have a
>pull down with the options of subscribe, unsubscribe and then a text box
>for typing in your email followed by a subscription form. Sometimes I
>will want a digest option as a second pull down.
>
>I have not figured out how to do that.
I gave that a good deal of thought prior to the release of 4.0, but
ran low on time. The built-in CGI module, much like the scripting
engine used by the Admin, for one thing requires the current
preference set to be active, which is an approach not suited for
subscribers.
I was also somewhat hesitant of building a subscriber web page into
the CGI module, because anyone can subscribe and unsubscribe anyone
else unless some added measurement is enforced, e.g. mail-back
verification via e-mail; the web environment alone can't really
verify the ownership of an e-mail address.
When all is said and done though, you can design your CGI. AutoShare
supports CGI targeted forms with the mailto submit mechanism. And
because AutoShare is so scriptable, you can also implement a regular
submit mechanism in your form and let your CGI make scriptable calls,
such as subscribe and unsubscribe, to the AutoShare server
application.
Date: 22 Jul 99 15:17:14 -0500
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: Re: web subscription form
Reply to: Re: web subscription form
We use listserv.cgi to do this, and it seems to do the job very well (been =
using it for years now). =
You can see one of our setups at:
http://www.hopkins.k12.mn.us/pages/tis/listserv.html
and the software is available (and still free I think) at
http://199.199.102.133/lsdocs.html
Maybe this will do what you want.
Chuck Boody
Analyst/Programmer
ISD 270
=======
Mikael Hansen wrote:
>At 13:14 -0400 7/22/99, Lists wrote:
>
>>I have had a hard time getting web subscription forms to work right. I =
am
>>running 4.0 as a cgi under Quid Pro Quo. I want forms that simply have a
>>pull down with the options of subscribe, unsubscribe and then a text box
>>for typing in your email followed by a subscription form. Sometimes I
>>will want a digest option as a second pull down.
>>
>>I have not figured out how to do that.
>
>I gave that a good deal of thought prior to the release of 4.0, but =
>ran low on time. The built-in CGI module, much like the scripting =
>engine used by the Admin, for one thing requires the current =
>preference set to be active, which is an approach not suited for =
>subscribers.
>
>I was also somewhat hesitant of building a subscriber web page into =
>the CGI module, because anyone can subscribe and unsubscribe anyone =
>else unless some added measurement is enforced, e.g. mail-back =
>verification via e-mail; the web environment alone can't really =
>verify the ownership of an e-mail address.
>
>When all is said and done though, you can design your CGI. AutoShare =
>supports CGI targeted forms with the mailto submit mechanism. And =
>because AutoShare is so scriptable, you can also implement a regular =
>submit mechanism in your form and let your CGI make scriptable calls, =
>such as subscribe and unsubscribe, to the AutoShare server =
>application.
>
>
>
>** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
>** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/>
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Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 17:36:32 -0700
From: "Michael J. Vinca" <mjv2411 at ritvax.isc.rit dot edu>
Subject: Setting up the bounce system.
I am in a predicament where I need to set all the preference for mail-back
to work from a remote location. Which res #'s would I have to set? I went
through the 1000's and the 201's but I must be missing something because I
currently have three posts sitting in my bounce folder.
Sincerely,
Michael J. Vinca
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 07:35:37 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Setting up the bounce system.
At 17:36 -0700 7/25/99, Michael J. Vinca wrote:
>I am in a predicament where I need to set all the preference for mail-back
>to work from a remote location. Which res #'s would I have to set? I went
>through the 1000's and the 201's but I must be missing something because I
>currently have three posts sitting in my bounce folder.
I'm not sure what you did, but it looks like you configured the
Bounce folder rather than the Mailback folder. If you're using the
SetRes command in remote administration by e-mail, you need 203,7
instead of 203,9.
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:25:30 -0700
From: "Michael J. Vinca" <mjv2411 at ritvax.isc.rit dot edu>
Subject: Re: Mailback and Bounce
Hee Hee... I did a getres and they are both blank. Which would explain my
problems. The reason why none of this was never configured was because of
the problem that everyone else was having with the Autoshare Admin app
requiring certain things to be installed. I'm currently only working with
40 MB on the startup volume so I didn't install anything I didn't need.
Then I had to go to California for 5 months (server is in NY) so I have to
do everything remotely. While I am currently working on solving the 40 MB
problem, I would like to get the server running until then. In the
documentation, I only found detail for the 1000s and 201 sets of
preferences. Is there documentation for the other 200s? This would be very
useful to me. (I was using the index file in the technical folder).
Also, I think I am going to have problems using setres because the aliases
to the bounce and mailback folders will have spaces. This is OK though, I
can always just write an applescript, ftp it over and then launch it
remotely. It would be more simple if I could handle spaces over e-mail but
this isn't possible is it?
Just to give you an idea of what state the server is in, I can create lists,
subscribe to them, and review them fine. The only thing I am missing is the
ability to post.
Mike
--
"Dating life when evaluated as a function of time should always pass the
vertical line test." --Sandra C. Bishop
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>From: AutoShare-Talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (AutoShare-Talk list)
>To: AutoShare-Talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (Subscribers of AutoShare-Talk)
>Subject: AutoShare-Talk digest 26 Jul 1999
>Date: Mon, Jul 26, 1999, 2:01 PM
>
> I'm not sure what you did, but it looks like you configured the
> Bounce folder rather than the Mailback folder. If you're using the
> SetRes command in remote administration by e-mail, you need 203,7
> instead of 203,9.
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 21:06:12 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Mailback and Bounce
At 17:25 -0700 7/26/99, Michael J. Vinca wrote:
>Hee Hee... I did a getres and they are both blank. Which would explain my
>problems. The reason why none of this was never configured was because of
>the problem that everyone else was having with the Autoshare Admin app
>requiring certain things to be installed. I'm currently only working with
>40 MB on the startup volume so I didn't install anything I didn't need.
Yes, FaceSpan 2.1 somehow requires the QuickTime and QuickTime PowerPlug
extensions, which take up a couple of megs on the drive.
>Then I had to go to California for 5 months (server is in NY) so I have to
>do everything remotely. While I am currently working on solving the 40 MB
>problem, I would like to get the server running until then. In the
>documentation, I only found detail for the 1000s and 201 sets of
>preferences. Is there documentation for the other 200s? This would be very
>useful to me. (I was using the index file in the technical folder).
Ah, a real hacker! I have updated the online page for your viewing pleasure.
>Also, I think I am going to have problems using setres because the aliases
>to the bounce and mailback folders will have spaces. This is OK though, I
>can always just write an applescript, ftp it over and then launch it
>remotely. It would be more simple if I could handle spaces over e-mail but
>this isn't possible is it?
Using the alias command in remote administration by e-mail, only the
last parameter (the target file) can hold spaces. That's how it goes
when the command line delimiter is a space, I'm afraid.
>Just to give you an idea of what state the server is in, I can create lists,
>subscribe to them, and review them fine. The only thing I am missing is the
>ability to post.
Why can't you post?
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:42:44 -0700
From: "Michael J. Vinca" <mjv2411 at ritvax.isc.rit dot edu>
Subject: Re: Mailback and Bounce
Thank you for updating the page. The information was very useful. I got
everything working within minutes. The spaces weren't a problem because the
alias is the last parameter in the setres command. To answer your question,
I couldn't post because the lists are setup for mail back, but the mail back
folder preference was set to "". As soon as I set it and re-ran AutoShare,
I got four confirmation requests. :-)
Mike
--
Have you visited the Newman Story Site lately?
<http://www.rit.edu/~mjv2411/storysite/>
----------
>From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
>To: AutoShare-Talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (Subscribers of AutoShare-Talk)
>Subject: Re: Mailback and Bounce
>Date: Mon, Jul 26, 1999, 9:06 PM
>
> Ah, a real hacker! I have updated the online page for your viewing pleasure.
>
>
> Using the alias command in remote administration by e-mail, only the
> last parameter (the target file) can hold spaces. That's how it goes
> when the command line delimiter is a space, I'm afraid.
>
>>Just to give you an idea of what state the server is in, I can create lists,
>>subscribe to them, and review them fine. The only thing I am missing is the
>>ability to post.
>
> Why can't you post?
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:44:20 +0100
From: Bill Bedford <billbpm at mousa.demon.co dot uk>
Subject: Web forms
How does autoshare parse messages from web forms?
I have had a couple recently which were rejected because they
'contained MIME data' when they didn't. However they were form
Outlook Express and the content type was
Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="POSTDATA.ATT"
Should I expect these to work?
--
Bill Bedford billb at mousa.demon.co dot uk
History has to be observed, otherwise its not history, It's just....
well one thing happening after another.
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:56:15 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Web forms
At 22:44 +0100 7/28/99, Bill Bedford wrote:
>How does autoshare parse messages from web forms?
The assumption is that the Content-Type is such that the message body
contains web form data only.
>I have had a couple recently which were rejected because they
>'contained MIME data' when they didn't. However they were form
>Outlook Express and the content type was
>
>Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="POSTDATA.ATT"
>
>Should I expect these to work?
No, as that Content-Type is likely to include MIME data in the
message body. I'd be interested in seeing such a message file sent to
your Filed Mail folder. You can send it directly to me off the list.
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 20:31:35 -0700
From: "Michael J. Vinca" <mjv2411 at ritvax.isc.rit dot edu>
Subject: <no subject>
I've noticed something in my Remote Admining that I'm sure if it would be
considered a feature or a bug. :-)
To create a new list, I put a blank text file in the "Lists" folder. Then I
run Autoshare. The new list is recognized and a resource string is created
for it. In this case, the list name is "general" and I can do a getres 1011
1 and get "general".
The weird part now is that my default list setting is set to use "script."
(Using the wonderful FileMaker Pro AppleScript supplied with Autoshare).
Doing a getres 1000 31 will return 2. But doing a getres 1011 31 will
return "". So, this is not initialized to 0 like I would think. Doing a
subscription in this state causes a subscription in the text file. So I do
a setres 1011 0 for the default setting (general configuration).
I send a run command to Autoshare.
Now I do a subscription. Again I am subscribed to the text file and not the
database file.
I do a setres 1011 2 to force the list to be "script".
I send a run command to Autoshare.
Now I do a subscription. I am subscribed in the database file.
So everything can be set to work the way I want it. I'm just wondering why
the AppleScript isn't run when the value is 0 or why the value isn't
initialized to 0?
I've considered it could be a safety feature. If you didn't know your
general configuration was script, it would probably produce some nerve
racking results. :-)
Just curious,
Mike
--
Have you visited the Newman Story Site lately?
<http://www.rit.edu/~mjv2411/storysite/>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 23:54:05 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: <no subject>
At 20:31 -0700 7/29/99, Michael J. Vinca wrote:
>But doing a getres 1011 31 will return "". So, this is not
>initialized to 0 like I would think.
The numeric value of an empty string is zero, so that's fine.
>I've considered it could be a safety feature. If you didn't know your
>general configuration was script, it would probably produce some nerve
>racking results. :-)
Yes, you have every reason to believe that the database format
setting is supposed to use the override mechanism, and you are also
correct in noting that it doesn't actually use it. I should add a
blurb to the beginning of the section on 'Subscriber list files and
formats' until fate decides which way it is going to be :-)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:31:13 +0200
From: HOnza Koudelka <koudelka at appleklub dot cz>
Subject: Re: <no subject>
>>I've considered it could be a safety feature. If you didn't know your
>>general configuration was script, it would probably produce some nerve
>>racking results. :-)
>
>Yes, you have every reason to believe that the database format
>setting is supposed to use the override mechanism, and you are also
>correct in noting that it doesn't actually use it. I should add a
>blurb to the beginning of the section on 'Subscriber list files and
>formats' until fate decides which way it is going to be :-)
>
Mikael,
this can be really very confusing when somebody upgrades a listserver
with more than 100 lists and wants to change all of them from text
format to database format...
So, I think you should use the defaults-overriding mchanism also for
database format.
HOnza
--
If you are crazy enough, look at http://www.appleklub.cz/~koudelka/
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 06:59:27 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: <no subject>
At 09:31 +0200 7/30/99, HOnza Koudelka wrote:
>this can be really very confusing when somebody upgrades a
>listserver with more than 100 lists and wants to change all of them
>from text format to database format...
There is someone out there actually doing that? ;-)
>So, I think you should use the defaults-overriding mchanism also for
>database format.
I just might send you a test version one day!
Date: 30 Jul 99 14:35:22 -0500
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: Unresolved bounce why
Below is an unresolved bounce. I receive similar ones from time to time =
even though AutoShare is set up to automatically delete hard bounces (and =
appears to do so in some circumstances). I would have thought 550 was a =
hard bounce. Any thoughts? Perhaps I have something set wrong, but I =
haven't any idea what it could be.
Thanks,
Chuck Boody
Analyst/Programmer
ISD 270
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Subject: Unresolved bounce
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:45:31 -0500
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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:01:44 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Unresolved bounce why
At 14:35 -0500 7/30/99, Chuck Boody wrote:
>Below is an unresolved bounce. I receive similar ones from time to
>time even though AutoShare is set up to automatically delete hard
>bounces (and appears to do so in some circumstances). I would have
>thought 550 was a hard bounce. Any thoughts? Perhaps I have
>something set wrong, but I haven't any idea what it could be.
>Text indicates: [ray_queener at sostpaul.k12.mn dot us] (not subscribed)
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>RFC To is: [memo-l at mankato.msus dot edu] (not a list)
> > 550 Action not taken, supposed local user
>'ray_queener at sostpaul.k12.mn dot us' does not exist.
At 14:35 -0500 7/30/99, Chuck Boody wrote:
> > To: "MEMO-NET ." <memo-l at mankato.msus dot edu>,
> > Sue Burke <SBURKE at BLOOMINGTON.K12.MN dot US>,
> > Ken Corens <ken_corens at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>,
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> > Denise Griffith <0196eis at informs.k12.mn dot us>,
> > Dennis Harper <dharper at osd.wednet dot edu>,
> > Dave Henning <dhenning at sowashco.k12.mn dot us>,
> > KIC <kic at stumail.hopkins.k12.mn dot us>,
> > Grace Kurtz <grace.kurtz at spps dot org>,
> > Don Lund <dlund at pinecity.k12.mn dot us>,
> > John Parker <jparker at bloomington.k12.mn dot us>,
> > Ray Queener <ray_queener at sostpaul.k12.mn dot us>,
> > Ray Queener <ray_queener at stpaul.k12.mn dot us>,
> > Jill Somrock <jsomrock at forestlake.k12.mn dot us>,
> > Lars Steltzner <lsteltzner at vc.k12.mn dot us>,
> > Greg Utecht <utechtgr at ehs.isd196.k12.mn dot us>,
> > Chuck Wettergren <chuck at ram.ramsey.lib.mn dot us>
That's due to multiple addresses in the RFC To field :-(
Date: 30 Jul 99 15:43:44 -0500
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: Re: Unresolved bounce why
Reply to: Re: Unresolved bounce why
OK.
Any future solutions??
Chuck Boody
Analyst/Programmer
ISD 270
=======
Mikael Hansen wrote:
>At 14:35 -0500 7/30/99, Chuck Boody wrote:
>
>>Below is an unresolved bounce. I receive similar ones from time to =
>>time even though AutoShare is set up to automatically delete hard =
>>bounces (and appears to do so in some circumstances). I would have =
>>thought 550 was a hard bounce. Any thoughts? Perhaps I have =
>>something set wrong, but I haven't any idea what it could be.
>
>>Text indicates: [ray_queener at sostpaul.k12.mn dot us] (not subscribed)
>>Code indicates: [ray_queener at sostpaul.k12.mn dot us] (not subscribed)
>>RFC From is: [jeff.stedman at fvcc.roseville.k12.mn dot us] (does not matter)
>>RFC To is: [memo-l at mankato.msus dot edu] (not a list)
>
>> > 550 Action not taken, supposed local user =
>>'ray_queener at sostpaul.k12.mn dot us' does not exist.
>
>At 14:35 -0500 7/30/99, Chuck Boody wrote:
>> > To: "MEMO-NET ." <memo-l at mankato.msus dot edu>,
>> > Sue Burke <SBURKE at BLOOMINGTON.K12.MN dot US>,
>> > Ken Corens <ken_corens at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>,
>> > Shirley Gregoire <sgregoire at stanthony.k12.mn dot us>,
>> > Denise Griffith <0196eis at informs.k12.mn dot us>,
>> > Dennis Harper <dharper at osd.wednet dot edu>,
>> > Dave Henning <dhenning at sowashco.k12.mn dot us>,
>> > KIC <kic at stumail.hopkins.k12.mn dot us>,
>> > Grace Kurtz <grace.kurtz at spps dot org>,
>> > Don Lund <dlund at pinecity.k12.mn dot us>,
>> > John Parker <jparker at bloomington.k12.mn dot us>,
>> > Ray Queener <ray_queener at sostpaul.k12.mn dot us>,
>> > Ray Queener <ray_queener at stpaul.k12.mn dot us>,
>> > Jill Somrock <jsomrock at forestlake.k12.mn dot us>,
>> > Lars Steltzner <lsteltzner at vc.k12.mn dot us>,
>> > Greg Utecht <utechtgr at ehs.isd196.k12.mn dot us>,
>> > Chuck Wettergren <chuck at ram.ramsey.lib.mn dot us>
>
>That's due to multiple addresses in the RFC To field :-(
>
>
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 02:04:13 +0100
From: Bill Bedford <billbpm at mousa.demon.co dot uk>
Subject: Post sent to bounce address
I've recently had a couple of bounce messages sent out to a whole
list. This appears to have happened because the bounce address was
used instead of the list address.
Is there a way of trapping messages sent to the bounce address so
they don't get distributed?
--
Bill Bedford billb at mousa.demon.co dot uk
History has to be observed, otherwise its not history, It's just....
well one thing happening after another.
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:45:16 +0800
From: Derek Tom <derek at bbdo.com dot hk>
Subject: Re: Post sent to bounce address
At 2:04am +0100, 8/2/99, Bill Bedford <billbpm at mousa.demon.co dot uk> wrote:
>I've recently had a couple of bounce messages sent out to a whole
>list. This appears to have happened because the bounce address was
>used instead of the list address.
>
>Is there a way of trapping messages sent to the bounce address so
>they don't get distributed?
That has started happening to me too when I upgraded from AutoShare
3.1.1b1 to 4.0. Why is that and how can I we get that to stop?
Thanks very much!
Cheers,
Derek