Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 13:08:08 -0400 From: Michael Reid Ðmichael_reid at wow dot netð Subject: Re: EIMS, formerly AIMS :-) Hi, Running well for the past 6 hours... Glenn informs me that it's not much different from the beta version of AIMS 1.1.2 that I was running over here for the past few months... Nice things include the count of outgoing msgs. and correct MX resolution, you do have to point to a direct IP of the destination (if you are using AIMS/EIMS as a mail router/gateway) within the sending setup though... And, of course, it's much more OT savvy. I still would like to see correct reporting of errors for undeliverable mail. ðDPI is already up and running on 1.1.2 and it's solid so far. ð ðIt reads the existing Internet Mail Server prefernces just fine. ð ðBill ð_______________________________________________________________________________ ðSubject: EIMS, formerly AIMS :-) ðFrom: autoshare-talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk at Internet ðDate: 4/16/97 8:43 AM ð ðThe future is looking bright. Version 1.1.2 of the Eudora Internet Mail ðServer, formerly the Apple Internet Mail Server, formerly MailShare, may be ðdownloaded from ð ðÐftp://ftp.eudora.com/quest/mac/servers/eudora_ims/eims112.sit.hqxð ð ð ðThe difference between AIMS 1.1.1 and EIMS 1.1.2 is bug fixes, which are ðdocumented in a readme file included in the archive. ð ð-- ðMikael Hansen Ðmailto:meh at dnai.comð Ðhttp://www.dnai dot com/~meh/autoshare/ð Michael Reid Internal Systems Admin. WOW.Net Ltd. Ðhttp://www.wow.net/ð
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 22:28:47 +0100 From: james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (James Berriman) Subject: Re: Need more help trouble shooting list At 5:24 pm 16/4/97, Bill Catambay wrote: ðExamining the problem some more, I have found that the first 9 addresses ðare okay, and the 10th address in the list gets the above script error. ðAll addresses after that get the error as well, except for the last address ðwhich is the only digest subscribed address. That might indicate the ðproblem is in the .m file, but I keep looking at it, and nothing seems ðwrong about it. ð ðWhat can I do to fix this? Perhaps you have a hidden control character in there somewhere which is fooling AutoShare into thinking it's at the end of the list? ( :-]) James
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 07:34:22 -0700 From: Mikael Hansen Ðmeh at dnai dot comð Subject: FWD: ANNOUNCE: Qualcomm takes AIMS to EIMS =46YI. This was posted on the apple-internet-announce list last night. ---begin--- Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:34:30 -0700 Reply-To: apple-internet-announce at private.lists.apple dot com Originator: apple-internet-announce at solutions.apple dot com Sender: apple-internet-announce at private.lists.apple dot com Precedence: bulk =46rom: Chuq Von Rospach Ðchuqui at plaidworks dot comð To: Subscribers to Ðapple-internet-announce at private.lists.apple dot comð Subject: ANNOUNCE: Qualcomm takes AIMS to EIMS This message was submitted by Mark Altenberg Ðmark at apple dot comð to list apple-internet-announce at solutions.apple dot com. If you forward it back to the list, it will be distributed without the paragraphs above the dashed line. Y= ou may edit the Subject: line and the text of the message before forwarding it back. If you edit the messages you receive into a digest, you will need to remove these paragraphs and the dashed line before mailing the result to the list. =46inally, if you need more information from the author of this message, you should be able to do so by simply replying to this note. ----------------------- Message requiring your approval --------------------= -- Sender: Mark Altenberg Ðmark at apple dot comð Subject: ANNOUNCE: Qualcomm takes AIMS to EIMS ***** MEDIA ALERT ***** MEDIA ALERT ***** MEDIA ALERT ***** QUALCOMM's Eudora® Division Assumes License Rights for Apple Internet Mail Server SAN DIEGO - April 16, 1997 - QUALCOMM Incorporated (NASDAQ: QCOM), a leader in wireless communications and advanced electronic messaging solutions for the Internet, today announced an agreement with Apple Computer Inc. to develop and distribute the Apple® Internet Mail Server, a freeware Macintosh®-based electronic mail server designed for managing messages across the Internet. The product will be renamed the Eudora Internet Mail Server for Macintosh and will continue to be made available free of charge. The freeware version of the Eudora Internet Mail Server is now available for downloading at Ðftp://ftp.eudora.com/mac/servers/eudora_ims/eims112.sit.hqxð. QUALCOMM's Eudora" division intends to provide a commercial version of the Eudora Internet Mail Server for Macintosh as part of its WorldMail' Server product family. The Eudora division will provide product development, including support for future versions of the Macintosh operating system. Specific features, availability and pricing for the commercial version are not yet available. The Eudora Internet Mail Server for Macintosh allows users to send and receive email over the Internet from any client that supports the Simple Mail Transport Protocol (SMTP) and Post Office Protocol version 3 (POP3), such as Eudora Pro and Eudora Light for Macintosh and Windows®. The Eudora Internet Mail Server for Macintosh also supports Password server and NotifyMail. Other features include support for Open Transport and extended SMTP extensions (CRFC 1869, STD10). System Requirements The Eudora Internet Mail Server requires a Mac Plus or higher, System 7.0 or later and MacTCP 1.1.1 or later, although System 7.0.1 or later and MacTCP 2.0.4 are highly recommended. Network Software Installer 1.5 or later should also be installed. =46or more information, contact: Allyson Willoughby The Benjamin Group Inc. (408) 559-6090 allyson at eudora.tbgi dot com # # # QUALCOMM and Eudora are registered trademarks and Eudora Pro, Eudora Light and WorldMail are trademarks of QUALCOMM Incorporated. Apple, Macintosh, Mac Plus and MacTCP are trademarks of Apple Computer, Inc. used under license. Windows is a trademark of Microsoft Corporation registered in the U.S. and other countries. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. ---end--- -- Mikael Hansen Ðmailto:meh at dnai dot comð
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 08:01:02 -0700 From: Bill Catambay Ðadmin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot comð Subject: Re: Need more help trouble shooting list At 10:28 PM +0100 on 4/16/97, James Berriman wrote: ð At 5:24 pm 16/4/97, Bill Catambay wrote: ð ð ðExamining the problem some more, I have found that the first 9 addresses ð ðare okay, and the 10th address in the list gets the above script error. ð ðAll addresses after that get the error as well, except for the last address ð ðwhich is the only digest subscribed address. That might indicate the ð ðproblem is in the .m file, but I keep looking at it, and nothing seems ð ðwrong about it. ð ð ð ðWhat can I do to fix this? ð ð Perhaps you have a hidden control character in there somewhere which is ð fooling AutoShare into thinking it's at the end of the list? ð ð ( :-]) James ð I am chopping out records, moving records, trying all kinds of things, and nothing is fixing the problem (I'm making the changes in both lists to keep them matched). It doesn't think it's the end of the file, because one of the changes I made fixed an address which used to get the script error, and it's near the end of the list. Would someone be willing to look at the lists to see if they can help? Is there an analysis I can perform which would pinpoint the problem? I really need to get this list working. Thanks for any help, Bill _____________________________________________________________________ Bill Catambay Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, EIS Webmaster Ðhttp://www.catambay.com/pascal-centralð /ð // Excalibur: Morgana's Revenge is released! (//////[O]ð=========================================- \\ Ðhttp://www.catambay.com/morganað \ð ____________________________________________________________________
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 11:46:10 -0400 From: wsuarez at digprod dot com (Bill Suarez) Subject: Re[2]: Need more help trouble shooting list Bill, Stuff and bin-hex the files (or copies) and send them to me at: wsuarez at digprod dot com and I'll take a look for you. Bill Suarez _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: Re: Need more help trouble shooting list From: autoshare-talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk at Internet Date: 4/17/97 8:01 AM At 10:28 PM +0100 on 4/16/97, James Berriman wrote: ð At 5:24 pm 16/4/97, Bill Catambay wrote: ð ð ðExamining the problem some more, I have found that the first 9 addresses ð ðare okay, and the 10th address in the list gets the above script error. ð ðAll addresses after that get the error as well, except for the last address ð ðwhich is the only digest subscribed address. That might indicate the ð ðproblem is in the .m file, but I keep looking at it, and nothing seems ð ðwrong about it. ð ð ð ðWhat can I do to fix this? ð ð Perhaps you have a hidden control character in there somewhere which is ð fooling AutoShare into thinking it's at the end of the list? ð ð ( :-]) James ð I am chopping out records, moving records, trying all kinds of things, and nothing is fixing the problem (I'm making the changes in both lists to keep them matched). It doesn't think it's the end of the file, because one of the changes I made fixed an address which used to get the script error, and it's near the end of the list. Would someone be willing to look at the lists to see if they can help? Is there an analysis I can perform which would pinpoint the problem? I really need to get this list working. Thanks for any help, Bill _____________________________________________________________________ Bill Catambay Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, EIS Webmaster Ðhttp://www.catambay.com/pascal-centralð /ð // Excalibur: Morgana's Revenge is released! (//////[O]ð=========================================- \\ Ðhttp://www.catambay.com/morganað \ð ____________________________________________________________________ ** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at: ** Ðhttp://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/AutoShare-Talk/ð
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 08:39:06 -0700 From: Bill Catambay Ðadmin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot comð Subject: AutoShare admin looking for 68k So far nothing has helped me with the list problem I've been having, so I'm starting from scratch. I deleted my Autoshare preferences, and then went into AutoShare.ppc to set up the prefs again. Then I attempted to go into AutoShare Admin, but it keeps asking me to locate AutoShare.68k. In fact, I get the prompt to locate the file about 4 times in a row, and then it tells me it could not remember where it is. The thing is, I'm not using AutoShare.68k. It's not even on my hard disk anymore (I deleted it this morning). I do have AutoShare.ppc running in the background. Could this be a problem with the AutoShare Admin that was sent to me? Bill _____________________________________________________________________ Bill Catambay Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, EIS Webmaster Ðhttp://www.catambay.com/pascal-centralð /ð // Excalibur: Morgana's Revenge is released! (//////[O]ð=========================================- \\ Ðhttp://www.catambay.com/morganað \ð ____________________________________________________________________
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 09:06:46 -0700 From: Mikael Hansen Ðmeh at dnai dot comð Subject: Re: AutoShare admin looking for 68k At 08:39 -0700 4/17/97, Bill Catambay wrote: ðThen I attempted to go into AutoShare Admin, but it keeps asking me to ðlocate AutoShare.68k. In fact, I get the prompt to locate the file ðabout 4 times in a row, and then it tells me it could not remember ðwhere it is. Here is a repeat of my Talk response to you on April 2: ---begin--- At 15:33 -0800 4/2/97, Bill Catambay wrote: ðAdmin never works on my system either. There are some Admin tips at Ðhttp://www.dnai.com/~meh/autoshare/postrelease/ð which appear to solve the problems automagically. This of course assumes that the scripting environment on your Mac is in good shape. If not (running a simple script, e.g. one from AutoShare Samples folder, may determine this), re-install the scripting module from your System diskettes. ---end--- The above tips have worked for everyone having those problems. -- Mikael Hansen Ðmailto:meh at dnai dot comð
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 12:32:26 -0700 From: Bill Catambay Ðadmin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot comð Subject: Re: AutoShare admin looking for 68k At 9:06 AM -0700 on 4/17/97, Mikael Hansen wrote: ð ð There are some Admin tips at ð ð Ðhttp://www.dnai.com/~meh/autoshare/postrelease/ð ð ð which appear to solve the problems automagically. ð Renaming the Autoshare.ppc program to Autoshare.68k appears to have fixed all the problems, including the script error problem with the list members. Now I'll let the users test the list to see if they can post to it. At 11:46 AM -0400 on 4/17/97, Bill Suarez wrote: ð Bill, ð ð Stuff and bin-hex the files (or copies) and send them to me at: ð wsuarez at digprod dot com and I'll take a look for you. ð Thanks Bill. Since I did the above, I can now view the list members in Autoshare Admin. I'll wait and see if the members still have problems posting, and if they do, I'll take you up on your offer to help. Cheers, Bill _____________________________________________________________________ Bill Catambay Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, EIS Webmaster Ðhttp://www.catambay.com/pascal-centralð /ð // Excalibur: Morgana's Revenge is released! (//////[O]ð=========================================- \\ Ðhttp://www.catambay.com/morganað \ð ____________________________________________________________________
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:39:21 -0400 From: wsuarez at digprod dot com (Bill Suarez) Subject: Re[2]: AutoShare admin looking for 68k Good luck Bill _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: Re: AutoShare admin looking for 68k From: autoshare-talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk at Internet Date: 4/17/97 12:32 PM At 9:06 AM -0700 on 4/17/97, Mikael Hansen wrote: ð ð There are some Admin tips at ð ð Ðhttp://www.dnai.com/~meh/autoshare/postrelease/ð ð ð which appear to solve the problems automagically. ð Renaming the Autoshare.ppc program to Autoshare.68k appears to have fixed all the problems, including the script error problem with the list members. Now I'll let the users test the list to see if they can post to it. At 11:46 AM -0400 on 4/17/97, Bill Suarez wrote: ð Bill, ð ð Stuff and bin-hex the files (or copies) and send them to me at: ð wsuarez at digprod dot com and I'll take a look for you. ð Thanks Bill. Since I did the above, I can now view the list members in Autoshare Admin. I'll wait and see if the members still have problems posting, and if they do, I'll take you up on your offer to help. Cheers, Bill _____________________________________________________________________ Bill Catambay Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, EIS Webmaster Ðhttp://www.catambay.com/pascal-centralð /ð // Excalibur: Morgana's Revenge is released! (//////[O]ð=========================================- \\ Ðhttp://www.catambay.com/morganað \ð ____________________________________________________________________ ** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at: ** Ðhttp://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/AutoShare-Talk/ð
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 13:05:12 +0100 From: Bill Bedford Ðbillbpm at mousa.demon.co dot ukð Subject: Light Bulbs Since we are all 'consenting adults' here I thought you all might like to see this. Warning: No one on the list should take this personally, and no one is to reply "me too" to the posting :-) Bill ð Q: How many internet mail list subscribers does it take ð to change a light bulb? ð ð A: 1,331: ð 1 to change the light bulb and to post to the mail ð list that the light bulb has been changed ð 14 to share similar experiences of changing light ð bulbs and how the light bulb could have been ð changed differently. ð 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs. ð 27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about ð changing light bulbs. ð 53 to flame the spell checkers ð 156 to write to the list administrator complaining about ð the light bulb discussion and its inappropriateness ð to this mail list. ð 41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames. ð 109 to post that this list is not about light bulbs and ð to please take this email exchange to alt.lite.bulb ð 203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar, ð alt.spelling and alt.punctuation about changing ð light bulbs be stopped. ð 111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we ð are all use light bulbs and therefore the posts ð **are** relevant to this mail list. ð 306 to debate which method of changing light ð bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, ð what brand of light bulbs work best for this ð technique, and what brands are faulty. ð 27 to post URLs where one can see examples of ð different light bulbs ð 14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and ð to post corrected URLs. ð 3 to post about links they found from the URLs that ð are relevant to this list which makes light bulbs ð relevant to this list. ð 33 to concatenate all posts to date, then quote ð them including all headers and footers, and then ð add "Me Too." ð 12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing ð because they cannot handle the light bulb ð controversey. ð 19 to quote the "Me Too's" to say, "Me Three." ð 4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ. ð 1 to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup. ð 47 to say this is just what alt.physic.cold_fusion ð was meant for, leave it here. ð 143 votes for alt.lite.bulb. ðð ðð
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 14:26:23 +0100 From: jose.accino at ice.uma dot es (Jose A. Accino) Subject: Re: AutoShare admin looking for 68k ðThis of course assumes that the scripting environment on your Mac is in ðgood shape. ----------- On what Mac? I run AutoShare on our dedicated Mac II (system 7.5.1) and I've been trying to admin it from my own Performa 6200 on the same Ethertalk network. Sure, I got the "looking for 68k" request, but after making a search on previous posts I found the solution. However, I've been unable to admin the accounts on our lists. The options of the Extras menu always give me a long error message when I press the Update button: "An error occurred while executing the script on ÐÐclass Pushðð "update".. (-1700)" On the configuration menu, the Lists option shows the lists on our server and pressing a listname also shows the users addresses on the right side, but when I try to edit an option, let us say setting an user to ACK, I also get a similar error message. The mail server Mac (AIMS 1.1.1 and AutoShare 1.2) has file sharing and program linking on. The "admin" Mac has program linking on (Is it required?). Should I mount the server Mac on my desktop? What do the "Form 1" and "Count 0" values mean? I though there were referring to the count of users on a list but always show the same 1 and 0 values... And better yet, although I already have the FaceSpan 2.1 extension and I'm using the Complete Admin, it has now began to request me for the extension! Should I have AppleScript in both the server and the admin Macs? JA. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jose Alfonso Accino jose.accino at ice.uma dot es I.C.E. Universidad de Malaga http://www.ice.uma.es/ Bulevar Louis Pasteur, s/n Phone: +34-5-213 29 44 29071 MALAGA Fax: +34-5-213 29 45 España/Spain
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 01:56:36 -0700 From: Mikael Hansen Ðmeh at dnai dot comð Subject: Re: AutoShare admin looking for 68k At 14:26 +0100 4/18/97, Jose A. Accino wrote: ðShould I have AppleScript in both the server and the admin Macs? Yes. -- Mikael Hansen Ðmailto:meh at dnai dot comð
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 09:10:45 -0700 From: Bill Catambay <admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com> Subject: Autoreply question I setup an autoreply message for a given subject, but the text is cutoff when being sent out to the user requesting the info. Has anyone experienced this before? Bill _____________________________________________________________________ Bill Catambay Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, EIS Webmaster <http://www.catambay.com/pascal-central> /> // Excalibur: Morgana's Revenge is released! (//////[O]>=========================================- \\ <http://www.catambay.com/morgana> \> ____________________________________________________________________
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 20:05:31 +0100 From: James Berriman <james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk> Subject: Re: Autoreply question Bill, Not quite clear about your question, but there is an issue to be aware of with Autoreply files. Make sure that your text file is hard wrapped. Once a Mac-style paragraph (long string terminated with a single [cr]) gets up around 200-ish characters, AutoShare truncates it. Some mail gateways also truncate lines. I believe that rfc 822 requires mail agents to support at least 1000 characters per line, but many don't. Wrapping text is the friendly thing to do in any case, since clients like Netscape 2 will display a long paragraph in email as a single long line of text (unwrapped), which can be a little irritating! ( :-]) James
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 13:55:26 -0700 From: Bill Catambay <admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com> Subject: Re: Autoreply question At 8:05 PM +0100 on 4/23/97, James Berriman wrote: > Bill, > > Not quite clear about your question, but there is an issue to be aware > of with Autoreply files. > > Make sure that your text file is hard wrapped. Once a Mac-style > paragraph (long string terminated with a single [cr]) gets up around > 200-ish characters, AutoShare truncates it. > That was it exactly. I put in the hard wraps, and the problem is fixed. Thanks! Bill _____________________________________________________________________ Bill Catambay Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, EIS Webmaster <http://www.catambay.com/pascal-central> /> // Excalibur: Morgana's Revenge is released! (//////[O]>=========================================- \\ <http://www.catambay.com/morgana> \> ____________________________________________________________________
From: Melissa Capen <melissa at otlmail.stanford dot edu> Subject: Question on filters & auto-replies Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 11:14:34 -0700 2 questions from a beginner of Autoshare. 1- if I want to set up specific filters just for the many lists that I am subscribed to, (such as this list), how does it look? I create a txt file with my account name as the file name and place it in the Filters folder in the Auto folder. Do I have to type in the file the FULL NAME like this: From: bounce at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk From: postmaster at violin.easy dot com or do I just type: frutiger violin 2-The reply messages are appearing all chopped up when received by the sender. I saw in the FAQ that you need to wrap the file with a hard return (CR) at the end of each line. How do I do that? This may be a dummy question, but I really don't know!! Thanks much in advance!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Melissa Capen Office of Technology Licensing Stanford University melissa at otlmail.stanford dot edu http://www-leland.stanford.edu/group/OTL/ 415-473-3203
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 14:16:31 -0400 From: wsuarez at digprod dot com (Bill Suarez) Subject: Re: Question on filters & auto-replies Melissa, Not sure on your filters question as I haven't used much myself. However, the "hard" returns are as simple as using a flexible editor like BBEdit and doing a "Save As" on a file, or group of files, to convert them. If you are creating a file for the first time, simple hit the return key yourself as opposed to waiting for the editor to "wrap" the lines for you. Hope that helps a bit. Bill Suarez _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: Question on filters & auto-replies From: AutoShare-Talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk at Internet Date: 4/24/97 11:14 AM 2 questions from a beginner of Autoshare. 1- if I want to set up specific filters just for the many lists that I am subscribed to, (such as this list), how does it look? I create a txt file with my account name as the file name and place it in the Filters folder in the Auto folder. Do I have to type in the file the FULL NAME like this: From: bounce at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk From: postmaster at violin.easy dot com or do I just type: frutiger violin 2-The reply messages are appearing all chopped up when received by the sender. I saw in the FAQ that you need to wrap the file with a hard return (CR) at the end of each line. How do I do that? This may be a dummy question, but I really don't know!! Thanks much in advance!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Melissa Capen Office of Technology Licensing Stanford University melissa at otlmail.stanford dot edu http://www-leland.stanford.edu/group/OTL/ 415-473-3203 ** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at: ** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/AutoShare-Talk/>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 19:56:06 +0100 From: james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (James Berriman) Subject: Re: Question on filters & auto-replies At 19:14 24/4/97, Melissa Capen wrote: >1- if I want to set up specific filters just for the many lists that I am >subscribed to, (such as this list), how does it look? Melissa, I'm not quite clear what you're trying to do. Are you trying to set up a vacation message? If so, any message from a list server that includes a Precedence: list/junk/bulk header will automatically be ignored (this means most lists, thankfully). You only need to cover the rare case where a list does not have these headers (So you don't need to worry about filtering AutoShare-Talk or Mailshare-l). ( :-]) James
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 15:38:05 -0700 From: Bill Catambay <admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com> Subject: Redirected attachments In efforts to thwart a plan to use an NT server instead of this Mac for activity report submissions, I am trying to use EIMS, and perhaps Autoshare, to have attachments redirected to different folders based on the EIMS account it is being sent to. So far, I have had no luck. Basically, I want it to work such that if someone sends e-mail to an account named "activity", then the attachments are stored in a different folder than where the regular attachments are normally stored. Is there a way to do this, or am I just banging my head against the wall (buying time until Windows NT takes over the planet) ? Any help, or other ideas, is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Bill _____________________________________________________________________ Bill Catambay Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, EIS Webmaster <http://www.catambay.com/pascal-central> /> // Excalibur: Morgana's Revenge is released! (//////[O]>=========================================- \\ <http://www.catambay.com/morgana> \> ____________________________________________________________________
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 09:59:37 +0100 From: james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (James Berriman) Subject: Re: Redirected attachments At 23:38 24/4/97, Bill Catambay wrote: >Basically, I want it to work such that if someone sends e-mail to an >account named "activity", then the attachments are stored in a different >folder than where the regular attachments are normally stored. Sounds like a client issue to me. You could do this in Eudora by creating a new settings file for the "activity" account, and placing it in a folder of its own. Eudora would then create a new Attachments folder inside that folder. ( :-]) James
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 19:17:27 +0100 From: Bill Bedford <billbpm at mousa.demon.co dot uk> Subject: Mail to originator Could some one please tell me what is supposed to happen to mail from the list to the originator? I find that sometimes they get a copy of their own mail and sometimes not. Some of the member who are new to mail lists are feeling slightly paranoid about this :-)
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 02:14:47 -0700 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: Question on filters & auto-replies At 11:14 -0700 4/24/97, Melissa Capen wrote: >Do I have to type in the file the FULL NAME like this: > >From: bounce at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk >From: postmaster at violin.easy dot com > >or do I just type: > >frutiger >violin Both have the correct format, but the first is just more specific. The RFC field header (such as 'From:') is optional, and the RFC field body can be complete (such as 'bounce at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk') or a substring (such as 'frutiger'). From: frutiger From: easy is fine too. But as James pointed out, mostly unnecessary for subscribed lists.
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 02:14:47 -0700 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: Mail to originator At 19:17 +0100 4/26/97, Bill Bedford wrote: >Could some one please tell me what is supposed to happen to mail from the >list to the originator? I find that sometimes they get a copy of their own >mail and sometimes not. That would depend on the options of the subscriber. If ACK is set, the subscriber receives a copy, otherwise not. Subscribers may send a QUERY command to get an overview of their current options.
Subject: Fwd: Very weird... Date: Sun, 27 Apr 97 12:57:24 -0400 From: Clifford Hartleigh Low <cthulhu at necronomi dot com> One of the moderators on my site sent me this, and I don't quite know what to make of it. Dorsai.org is in New York, btw, not Brazil. >Subject: Very weird... >Sent: 4/27/97 11:20 AM >Received: 4/27/97 11:19 AM >From: Lilith, lilith at dorsai dot org >To: Clifford Low, cthulhu at necronomi dot com > cliff at palace dot net > >I've gotten two of these... >I am not on darkpaths-l, neither is that my e-mail address. (obviously!) >-althea > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 23:10:45 -0400 >From: listbot at necronomi dot com >To: lilith at vortex.ufrgs dot br >Subject: To lilith > >Please ignore this message from the darkpaths-l list! Thank you. > >A test message to verify that your e-mail account is fine. > x--------------------------------------------------------------------x - cthulhu at necronomi.com * cliff at crystal dot palace dot net - - \\ ** Clifford Hartleigh Low ** // - - <http://www.necronomi.com/users/cthulhu/> - x--------------------------------------------------------------------x
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 11:42:53 -0700 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: Fwd: Very weird... At 12:57 -0400 4/27/97, Clifford Hartleigh Low wrote: >One of the moderators on my site sent me this, and I don't quite know >what to make of it. >>Please ignore this message from the darkpaths-l list! Thank you. >> >>A test message to verify that your e-mail account is fine. This is the standard text of a test bounce message. While Lilith may not now be a subscriber of the darkpaths-l list, she has been so not long ago. If the admin does nothing, the test bounces will soon stop being sent to her. Or you can manually edit the Bounces On Hold file located in the AutoShare preferences folder, search for 'lilith' and remove her immediately. The upcoming AutoShare 1.3 makes sure that a subscriber check will be applied before each test bounce.
Subject: Re: Fwd: Very weird... Date: Sun, 27 Apr 97 20:12:52 -0400 From: Clifford Hartleigh Low <cthulhu at necronomi dot com> >This is the standard text of a test bounce message. While Lilith may not >now be a subscriber of the darkpaths-l list, she has been so not long ago. >If the admin does nothing, the test bounces will soon stop being sent to >her. Or you can manually edit the Bounces On Hold file located in the >AutoShare preferences folder, search for 'lilith' and remove her >immediately. The problem is we have tests from a bouncing user of Darkpaths-L (lilith at vortex.ufrgs dot br) somehow being sent to a user of completely different elist (lilith at dorsai dot org)! That's what's peculiar. x--------------------------------------------------------------------x - cthulhu at necronomi.com * cliff at crystal dot palace dot net - - \\ ** Clifford Hartleigh Low ** // - - <http://www.necronomi.com/users/cthulhu/> - x--------------------------------------------------------------------x
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 19:01:06 -0700 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: Fwd: Very weird... At 20:12 -0400 4/27/97, Clifford Hartleigh Low wrote: >The problem is we have tests from a bouncing user of Darkpaths-L >(lilith at vortex.ufrgs dot br) somehow being sent to a user of completely >different elist (lilith at dorsai dot org)! That's what's peculiar. At 12:57 -0400 4/27/97, Clifford Hartleigh Low wrote: >>From: Lilith, lilith at dorsai dot org >>To: lilith at vortex.ufrgs dot br Some digging appears to reveal what happened. All test bounces within a batch are created and stored in the same AutoShare Temp folder before the first of these test bounces is transferred to the Incoming mail folder. File names of test bounces were in 1.2 mistakenly set to the user part of the recipient address. This is not adequately unique, as both lilith at dorsai.org and lilith at vortex dot ufrgs dot br get put into the same test bounce file, named 'To lilith'. First, the data and resource forks of a test bounce are updated for lilith at dorsai.org. When lilith at vortex dot ufrgs dot br's turn comes around, the data fork gets overwritten, while the envelope address is appended. Meaning that one and the same test bounce is in fact sent to both addresses... The problem was fixed a while back, as I applied unique file names to all files originated by AutoShare. Stay tuned for 1.3.
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 21:50:22 -0500 From: Tom Weishaar <TomW at SiteCentral dot com> Subject: Re: Very weird I got a message like that very weird one on Friday. This has little else to do with Autoshare, but maybe you all can figure out why AIMS didn't bounce this sucker back to netcom.com immediately (I can't); obviously netcom.com isn't one of our domains. I have <any name> active in AIMS and forwarded to me, which is why I got the message once it was received here -- note that the message appears to be sent from and to the same account (<merlin-1 at ix.netcom dot com>) > Received: from dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.9) by SiteCentral.com > with ESMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1); Fri, 25 Apr 1997 23:08:33 -0500 > Received: (from smap@localhost) > by dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) > id VAA05858; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 21:40:21 -0500 (CDT) > From: smh1 at ix.netcom dot com > Message-Id: <199704260240.VAA05858 at dfw-ix9.ix.netcom dot com> > Received: from dal-tx1-58.ix.netcom.com(207.94.120.122) by dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) > id sma005442; Fri Apr 25 21:40:03 1997 > Comments: Authenticated sender is <merlin-1 at popd.ix.netcom dot com> > To: "Dana"<merlin-1 at ix.netcom dot com> > Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 21:39:02 -0200 > X-Distribution: Moderate > Subject: give me a call....... > Reply-to: merlin-1 at ix.netcom dot com > X-Confirm-Reading-To: merlin-1 at ix.netcom dot com > X-pmrqc: 1 > Return-receipt-to: merlin-1 at ix.netcom dot com > Priority: normal > X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.52) > > > Dana, > My cat got hit by a car today & died. Kinda bummed, give > me a call. > Steve -- Tom Weishaar ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://SiteCentral.com/ Web Site Development Corporation
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 10:38:12 -0500 From: Tom Weishaar <TomW at SiteCentral dot com> Subject: Bounces and AIM retrys I thought there was a setting in AIMS that controlled how long AIMS would try to send an email to a domain that wasn't responding, but I can't find it. On my system it seems to try for several days. Looking at my AIMS outgoing mail window just now, there are three messages there, all 'bounce tests' sent by AutoShare. AutoShare, however, has already decided these addresses are stable, because the bounces didn't come back. I know how to fix this by adjusting my AutoShare bounce configuration, but I was wondering if there was any way to get AIMS to bounce these things back to AutoShare faster? -- Tom Weishaar ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://SiteCentral.com/ Web Site Development Corporation
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 20:06:58 +0100 From: james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (James Berriman) Subject: Re: Bounces and AIM retrys At 16:38 28/4/97, Tom Weishaar wrote: >I thought there was a setting in AIMS that controlled how long AIMS >would try to send an email to a domain that wasn't responding, but I >can't find it. It's in Sending Setup. Adjust the 'Expire after (hours):' ( :-]) James
Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 13:03:25 -0700 From: John Nash <john at utep dot edu> Subject: Autorepsond question Greetings Is it possible to have an incoming mail message to Autoshare that is intended to be handled by the auto responder to also be forwarded to a second mailbox for processing by a human? We'd like Autoshare to autorespond to queries coming from our website and have the query also go to a human who, in time, will respond to the question. Thanks! --->john nash john at utep dot edu Univ. of Texas at El Paso
Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 12:23:50 -0700 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: Autorepsond question At 13:03 -0700 5/6/97, John Nash wrote: >Is it possible to have an incoming mail message to Autoshare that is >intended to be handled by the auto responder to also be forwarded to a >second mailbox for processing by a human? > >We'd like Autoshare to autorespond to queries coming from our website and >have the query also go to a human who, in time, will respond to the >question. If you click on the 'Keep copy' checkbox for an EIMS (/AIMS/MailShare) account configured as 'Save as files', mail to the account will continue to be available for client e-mail software. If you would rather like the mail forwarded to a given account, you have to apply a trick, as EIMS doesn't allow you to both 'Save as files' and forward. You can build an extra layer, so that mail first come to a mailing list account of two addresses: one is forwarded to the 'Save as files' account, and the other is forwarded to the person in question. This new account should be named the same as the 'Save as files' account used to be, and the latter should be renamed. While I haven't tried it myself, I believe several others have. -- Mikael Hansen <mailto:meh at dnai dot com>
Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 19:05:09 -0700 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: AutoShare 1.3 released Hello, everyone AutoShare 1.3, a freeware list server and auto-responder for EIMS (formerly AIMS and MailShare), has been released and may be downloaded from <ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/> and also from the mirror site at <http://www.dcl.co.uk/MacOS/email/autoshare/> until it's up on Info-Mac in the comm/inet/mail directory. Version 1.3 offers - improvements and bug fixes - expanded full scriptability - improved Admin with balloon help - subscriber and administrator web forms - Mac-to-HTML and MIME-to-HTML character conversions - list-specific passwords for remote administration by e-mail - password change command for remote administration by e-mail - new post and nopost subscriber options - choice of RFC From vs envelope sender for subscriber lists - Mac-to-MIME configuration, unconditional option added - scripted e-mail using the Send Mail AppleScript command - updated Frontier glue document - using AutoShare with NewsRunner - monthly help files on a per-list basis - subscriber alias files for subscriber lists - specific key strings for poll accounts - additional newer X-List RFC fields - pre-send subscription check for test bounces - considerably improved speed for large enclosures Enjoy! -- Mikael Hansen <mailto:meh at dnai.com> <http://www.dnai dot com/~meh/autoshare/>
Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 07:07:18 -0700 From: Bill Catambay <admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com> Subject: Re: AutoShare 1.3 released At 7:05 PM -0700 on 5/6/97, Mikael Hansen wrote: > Hello, everyone > > AutoShare 1.3, a freeware list server and auto-responder for EIMS (formerly > AIMS and MailShare), has been released and may be downloaded from > <ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/> > and also from the mirror site at > <http://www.dcl.co.uk/MacOS/email/autoshare/> > until it's up on Info-Mac in the comm/inet/mail directory. > I went to the above web page, and it still lists version 1.2 as the latest. Also, does the new autoshare fix the bug so that we don't have to rename the autoshare.ppc to autoshare.68k? Bill _____________________________________________________________________ Bill Catambay Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, EIS Webmaster <http://www.catambay.com/pascal-central> /> // Excalibur: Morgana's Revenge is released! (//////[O]>=========================================- \\ <http://www.catambay.com/morgana> \> ____________________________________________________________________
Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 06:16:56 -0700 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Upgrading to AutoShare 1.3 Good morning! There is one part of the upgrade instructions at <http://www.dnai.com/~meh/autoshare/addendum/index.html#upgrading> which deserves attention in particular. As the remote passwords have become list-specific, they are now stored in a different location. The easiest way for you to take care of it is to delete the password in 1.2 (or the X-List-Host in 1.3) and re-enter the password in 1.3. -- Mikael Hansen <mailto:meh at dnai.com> <http://www.dnai dot com/~meh/autoshare/>
Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 07:53:36 -0700 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: AutoShare 1.3 released At 07:07 -0700 5/7/97, Bill Catambay wrote: >> AutoShare 1.3, a freeware list server and auto-responder for EIMS (formerly >> AIMS and MailShare), has been released and may be downloaded from >> <ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/> >> and also from the mirror site at >> <http://www.dcl.co.uk/MacOS/email/autoshare/> >> until it's up on Info-Mac in the comm/inet/mail directory. >I went to the above web page, and it still lists version 1.2 as the latest. James may not have updated the latter link, but the former link was fully updated before any release information was posted. If the dnai site shows the old 1.2 page, chances are that your web browser is fetching the page from your cache rather than from the site. >Also, does the new autoshare fix the bug so that we don't have to rename >the autoshare.ppc to autoshare.68k? We don't think we ever had to any renaming. -- Mikael Hansen <mailto:meh at dnai.com> <http://www.dnai dot com/~meh/autoshare/>
Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 11:37:16 +0900 From: "Richard M. Pavonarius" <richard at phoenix.apic.or dot jp> Subject: Autoshare FTP site Voodoo At 07:07 -0700 5/7/97, Bill Catambay wrote: >> AutoShare 1.3, a freeware list server and auto-responder for EIMS >>(formerly >> AIMS and MailShare), has been released and may be downloaded from >> <ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/> >> and also from the mirror site at >> <http://www.dcl.co.uk/MacOS/email/autoshare/> >> until it's up on Info-Mac in the comm/inet/mail directory. >I went to the above web page, and it still lists version 1.2 as the latest. It shows up if you use Anarchie, but not if you use NetFinder. Go figure. Rich ------------------------------------------------------------------ Richard M. Pavonarius | http://www.global-commons.com/richard.html Internet Applications Specialist
Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 12:35:35 +0900 From: "Richard M. Pavonarius" <richard at phoenix.apic.or dot jp> Subject: "query all" bug Hot off the server... Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "Richard M. Pavonarius" <richard at phoenix.apic.or dot jp> From: autoshare at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (AutoShare Listserver) (AutoShare Listserver) Precedence: bulk Subject: query all Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 04:25:20 +0100 Your subscription options are as follows: Your address used for list subscriptions is richard at phoenix.apic.or dot jp Your address used for list subscriptions is richard at phoenix.apic.or dot jp Your address used for list subscriptions is richard at phoenix.apic.or dot jp Your address used for list subscriptions is richard at phoenix.apic.or dot jp List: AutoShare-Talk Address: richard at phoenix.apic.or dot jp Name: Richard Pavonarius Conceal: NOCONCEAL Digest: DIGEST Mail: MAIL Ack: ACK Post: POST Your address used for list subscriptions is richard at phoenix.apic.or dot jp Your address used for list subscriptions is richard at phoenix.apic.or dot jp Your address used for list subscriptions is richard at phoenix.apic.or dot jp Your address used for list subscriptions is richard at phoenix.apic.or dot jp Your address used for list subscriptions is richard at phoenix.apic.or dot jp Your address used for list subscriptions is richard at phoenix.apic.or dot jp Your address used for list subscriptions is richard at phoenix.apic.or dot jp Your address used for list subscriptions is richard at phoenix.apic.or dot jp Your address used for list subscriptions is richard at phoenix.apic.or dot jp Process time was 19.85 seconds Your original message is found below. --- Received: from phoenix.apic.or.jp (202.33.20.72) by frutiger.staffs.ac.uk with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Thu, 8 May 1997 03:38:18 +0100 Received: from richard (154.33.254.26) by phoenix.apic.or.jp with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Thu, 8 May 1997 11:37:26 +0900 In-Reply-To: <1349074665-49369436 at phoenix.apic.or dot jp> X-Mailer: Macintosh Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2J Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 11:26:03 +0900 To: autoshare at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (AutoShare Listserver) From: "Richard M. Pavonarius" <richard at phoenix.apic.or dot jp> Subject: Re: sub autoshare-talk Rich Pavonarius Message-ID: <1349031050-51993268 at phoenix.apic.or dot jp> query all ------------------------------------------------------------------ Richard M. Pavonarius | http://www.global-commons.com/richard.html Internet Applications Specialist
Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 20:55:18 -0700 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: "query all" bug At 12:35 +0900 5/8/97, Richard M. Pavonarius wrote: > Your subscription options are as follows: > > Your address used for list subscriptions is richard at phoenix.apic.or dot jp > > Your address used for list subscriptions is richard at phoenix.apic.or dot jp > Rather harmless though :-) -- Mikael Hansen <mailto:meh at dnai.com> <http://www.dnai dot com/~meh/autoshare/>
Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 21:03:52 -0700 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: Autoshare FTP site Voodoo At 11:37 +0900 5/8/97, Richard M. Pavonarius wrote: >It shows up if you use Anarchie, but not if you use NetFinder. Go figure. Also fine using Fetch, Netscape and Internet Explorer. -- Mikael Hansen <mailto:meh at dnai.com> <http://www.dnai dot com/~meh/autoshare/>
Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 08:10:20 -0700 From: Bill Catambay <admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com> Subject: Re: Autoshare FTP site Voodoo At 11:37 AM +0900 on 5/8/97, Richard M. Pavonarius wrote: > At 07:07 -0700 5/7/97, Bill Catambay wrote: > > >> AutoShare 1.3, a freeware list server and auto-responder for EIMS > >>(formerly > >> AIMS and MailShare), has been released and may be downloaded from > >> <ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/> > >> and also from the mirror site at > >> <http://www.dcl.co.uk/MacOS/email/autoshare/> > >> until it's up on Info-Mac in the comm/inet/mail directory. > > >I went to the above web page, and it still lists version 1.2 as the latest. > > > It shows up if you use Anarchie, but not if you use NetFinder. Go figure. > The FTP address was always fine... I was only talking about the web address... > >> <http://www.dcl.co.uk/MacOS/email/autoshare/> _____________________________________________________________________ Bill Catambay Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, EIS Webmaster <http://www.catambay.com/pascal-central> /> // Excalibur: Morgana's Revenge is released! (//////[O]>=========================================- \\ <http://www.catambay.com/morgana> \> ____________________________________________________________________
Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 08:12:48 -0700 From: Bill Catambay <admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com> Subject: Re: AutoShare 1.3 released At 7:53 AM -0700 on 5/7/97, Mikael Hansen wrote: > > >Also, does the new autoshare fix the bug so that we don't have to rename > >the autoshare.ppc to autoshare.68k? > > We don't think we ever had to any renaming. > Hmmm... wasn't sure whether this should be taken as a joke or not. Your Post-Release page, http://www.dnai.com/~meh/autoshare/postrelease/, states the following: The Admin and Where is AutoShare.68k? If you get the Where is AutoShare.68k? dialog repeatedly when starting up the Admin application, rename the AutoShare application on the disk to AutoShare.68k. When AutoShare and the Admin are on the same Mac, it applies to the running AutoShare, and if the Admin is running remotely, it applies to the AutoShare simply residing on the remote disk (perhaps preferably in the same folder as the Admin) for reading the AppleEvents dictionary. This document is copyright ©1997 Mikael Hansen. I had to rename my AutoShare.ppc application to AutoShare.68k to get rid of lots of problems handling the mailing list with AutoShare Admin. _____________________________________________________________________ Bill Catambay Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, EIS Webmaster <http://www.catambay.com/pascal-central> /> // Excalibur: Morgana's Revenge is released! (//////[O]>===================== =====================- \\ <http://www.catambay.com/morgana> \> ____________________________________________________________________
Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 08:23:53 -0700 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: Autoshare FTP site Voodoo At 08:10 -0700 5/8/97, Bill Catambay wrote: >> >> <ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/> >The FTP address was always fine... I was only talking about the web address... > >> >> <http://www.dcl.co.uk/MacOS/email/autoshare/> James is working on it. The AutoShare home page is fine though: <http://www.dnai.com/~meh/autoshare/>
Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 09:25:31 -0700 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: AutoShare 1.3 released At 08:12 -0700 5/8/97, Bill Catambay wrote: >I had to rename my AutoShare.ppc application to AutoShare.68k to get rid >of lots of problems handling the mailing list with AutoShare Admin. As a new version has been released, the notes in <http://www.dnai.com/~meh/autoshare/postrelease/> have moved into the Addendum. The above thoughts are at <http://www.dnai.com/~meh/autoshare/addendum/index.html#admin> although the wording is more moderate. Although I have tried very hard to reproduce the need to rename AutoShare.ppc to AutoShare.68k, a locally running Admin has never asked for the latter on my Mac when the former is running. I have even had the .68k running, started up a fresh Admin, completed some configuration, shut down both, deleted all .68k versions on the Mac, started up the .ppc and then the Admin, which at that time had no problems adjusting to the running .ppc, which was not even located in the same folder as the Admin. A user once sent me a screendump of the "asking for the .68k" dialog, that you have most likely seen yourself, so I do have a visual feel for it... The remote situation is somewhat different, as the AppleScript environment requires the AppleScript dictionary to be present locally; with AutoShare, that is by the Admin. If a resource file including the dictionary is in the folder of the Admin, this works fine and takes up only 10K of space on your disk, which is a lot less than any of the two server applications. The 1.3 package includes such a resource file named AutoShare.68k and has a ResEdit icon. I don't see why a resource file named AutoShare.ppc wouldn't work on a PPC running the remote Admin, but as the contents of this file would be identical, I didn't enclose it. If you are running the Admin locally, it may be worth your while putting the 10K AutoShare.68k resource file in the folder of your Admin and see what happens when the PPC server application named AutoShare.ppc is running.
Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 17:33:46 +0100 From: james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (James Berriman) Subject: AutoShare 1.3 mirrors - status report I see that a number of you have tried to get the latest release from either www.dcl.co.uk or AutoShare-Software at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk. As usual, Mikael sent me a copy of the 'final' 1.3 release shortly before the release announcement was made. Unfortunately, this overlapped with a small bug report I sent in and which Mikael promptly fixed (thanks, Mikael!). Unfortunately, I'm getting very little bandwidth to dnai.com at the moment and I've not yet been able to get hold of the final version myself :-(. Mikael has mailed me the files, and I'm watching the larger of two messages arrive in my Mail Folder. After two hours, I've received 460K of the 1.3M file. 1.3 should be up on my machines tomorrow. I'll post more details when it's there. Thanks for your patience. ( :-]) James
Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 11:14:10 +0100 From: James Berriman <james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk> Subject: AutoShare 1.3 and Complete Admin now available on UK mirror site AutoShare 1.3 and the Complete Admin are now available from <http://www.dcl.co.uk/MacOS/email/autoshare/>. The AutoShare-Software auto-response account on this server has also been updated. Send a message to AutoShare-software at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk, with the name of the file you want in the subject line. Details below: *8-MAY-1997 The Complete Admin application updated for AutoShare 1.3. Request filename: CompleteAdmin.sit <mailto:AutoShare-software at frutiger.staffs.ac.uk?subject=CompleteAdmin dot sit> *8-MAY-97 The full AutoShare 1.3 package is now available. Request filename: AutoShare-1.3.sit <mailto:AutoShare-software at frutiger.staffs.ac.uk?subject=AutoShare-1.3 dot sit> Enjoy! Let me know if you have problems, ( :-]) James
Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 14:11:14 -0500 From: "Tom A. Moberg" <TMoberg at miph dot org> Subject: Subscribers can't submit Hello - I have set up a private list that had the following problem: One of the people I subscribed to the list tried to submit a message, Autoshare didn't think they were subcribed (apparently based on the X-Sender line of the message), autoshare tried to return the message to the address on the X-sender line, this message eventually got back to me as the Postmaster. I have the automatic bounce stuff turned off and I have the message listed below. (I apologize for the length, but completeness may help point to answers.) Thanks for any help. Tom ------------------------------------------------------------ Tom A. Moberg -- Telecommunications Coordinator MN Star of the North Prevention Coalition voice:(612) 427-5310 fax:(612) 427-7841 tmoberg at miph.org -- http://www.miph dot org/star ------------------------------------------------------------ From: @IBM.CO.HENNEPIN.MN.US:MS1755 at CO.HENNEPIN.MN dot US To: Postmaster at miph dot org Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 15:42:30 -0600 Subject: Undeliverable Mail Mime-Version: 1.0 The following message could not be sent to '@IBM.CO.HENNEPIN.MN.US:MS1755 at CO.HENNEPIN.MN dot US' because the host 'IBM.CO.HENNEPIN.MN.US' does not exist. ----Unsent message follows---- From: Postmaster at miph dot org To: @IBM.CO.HENNEPIN.MN.US:MS1755 at CO.HENNEPIN.MN dot US Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 15:42:26 -0600 Message-ID: <1348929950-135863770 at miph dot org> Subject: Undeliverable Mail Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="26fde402af98f66208191ddb" The following message could not be sent to '@IBM.CO.HENNEPIN.MN.US:MS1755 at CO.HENNEPIN.MN dot US' because the host 'IBM.CO.HENNEPIN.MN.US' does not exist. ----Unsent message follows---- Received: from guardian.co.hennepin.mn.us (204.73.55.2) by miph.org with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1b11); Fri, 9 May 1997 15:42:12 -0600 Received: from [137.70.144.2] by guardian.co.hennepin.mn.us via smtpd (for miph.org [38.253.228.2]) with SMTP; 9 May 1997 20:24:42 UT Received: from CO.HENNEPIN.MN.US by IBM.CO.HENNEPIN.MN.US (IBM MVS SMTP V3R1) with BSMTP id 0883; Fri, 09 May 97 15:26:29 CDT Date: Fri, 9 May 97 14:22:31 CDT Reply-To: star-staff at miph dot org Errors-To: postmaster at miph dot org X-Sender: @IBM.CO.HENNEPIN.MN.US:MS1755 at CO.HENNEPIN.MN dot US Precedence: bulk X-List-Software: AutoShare 1.2 by Mikael Hansen X-List-Admin: listmaster at miph dot org (Tom Moberg) X-List-Subscribe: <mailto:autoshare at miph dot org?body=subscribe%20star-staff> X-List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:autoshare at miph dot org?body=unsubscribe%20star-staff> X-List-Help: http://www.miph.org/star X-To-Unsubscribe: autoshare at miph dot org, body: unsub star-staff To: <star-staff at miph dot org> From: <MARK.LUCAS at CO.HENNEPIN.MN dot US> Subject: test of new broadcast email code Message-ID: <1348929964-135863121 at miph dot org> ************************************************************ ATTENTION PLEASE Sorry. Your message did NOT get posted or forwarded You cannot post to a list, unless you are a subscriber The list server address is autoshare at miph dot org ************************************************************ ------------------------------------------------------------ Tom A. Moberg -- Telecommunications Coordinator MN Star of the North Prevention Coalition voice:(612) 427-5310 fax:(612) 427-7841 tmoberg at miph.org -- http://www.miph dot org/star
Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 21:01:28 +0100 From: james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (James Berriman) Subject: Re: Subscribers can't submit At 20:11 12/5/97, Tom A. Moberg wrote: >Hello - > >I have set up a private list that had the following problem: One of the >people I subscribed to the list tried to submit a message, Autoshare didn't >think they were subcribed (apparently based on the X-Sender line of the >message), autoshare tried to return the message to the address on the >X-sender line, this message eventually got back to me as the Postmaster. I >have the automatic bounce stuff turned off and I have the message listed >below. (I apologize for the length, but completeness may help point to >answers.) > >Thanks for any help. > >Tom >From: @IBM.CO.HENNEPIN.MN.US:MS1755 at CO.HENNEPIN.MN dot US This is a source route address, and according to the error message you got, the host IBM.CO.HENNEPIN.MN.US does not exist. This will guarantee that the subscriber in question has real problems sending mail to some domains. AOL, for one, are now refusing all messages with a source route address in the mail envelope. So the first step is to point this problem out to the individual concerned. The default for AutoShare is to check the envelope address (not the X-sender, although in this case they were the same). The new version of AutoShare allows you to use the From: header if you prefer. This would make it easier to add addresses manually (as you presumably did in this case). Check the addendum in the 1.3 documentation for details. ( :-]) James
Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 22:13:18 -0800 From: Robert Orenstein <rlo at glyphic dot com> Subject: Would like to send diff. files depending on 'sub' result... Hi. I've spent a few hours setting up AutoShare and testing a mailing list, and it's working fine... it's really nice work! There is one thing that I'd like to do that AutoShare doesn't seem able to support, and I'm wondering if there's some kind of 'trickery' that will do this: I'd like to return a different file to the user depending on the result of the 'subscribe' command. If the subscribe succeeds, I want to return a rather long message with information about netiquette, etc; if the subscribe fails, I'd rather return much shorter text. Is there any way of doing this? Thanks, Robert Orenstein
Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 06:57:30 -0400 From: wsuarez at digprod dot com (Bill Suarez) Subject: Re: Would like to send diff. files depending on 'sub' result Robert, To the best of my knowledge your only option on "sub" files is the ability to hae a "list specific" sub file sent by naming it: sub.<listname>. Since it's actually the /=sub token in this file that causes the subscription request to be processed, the contents of the file cannot be changed. I've reworded my sub files to include a message indicating the user should check the result of the /=sub token to ensure their subscription was accepted. You could then reference another file available to the user by given them the syntanx for a "get" command......which would only work once they really are subscribed. Hope that helps a bit..... Bill Suarez _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: Would like to send diff. files depending on 'sub' result... From: AutoShare-Talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk at Internet Date: 5/16/97 10:13 PM Hi. I've spent a few hours setting up AutoShare and testing a mailing list, and it's working fine... it's really nice work! There is one thing that I'd like to do that AutoShare doesn't seem able to support, and I'm wondering if there's some kind of 'trickery' that will do this: I'd like to return a different file to the user depending on the result of the 'subscribe' command. If the subscribe succeeds, I want to return a rather long message with information about netiquette, etc; if the subscribe fails, I'd rather return much shorter text. Is there any way of doing this? Thanks, Robert Orenstein ** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at: ** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/AutoShare-Talk/>