The AutoShare-Talk list archive ending on 18 Feb 2001
Topics covered in this issue include:
1. Re: Different Machine, Different Problem
Bill on Camelot <bill.m.catambay at lmco dot com>
Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:23:50 -0800
2. Re: Different Machine, Different Problem
Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:34:03 -0500
3. Re: Different Machine, Different Problem
Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:35:43 -0500
4. Re: Different Machine, Different Problem
Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
11 Jan 01 12:02:27 -0600
5. Re: Different Machine, Different Problem
Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
11 Jan 01 12:04:00 -0600
6. Web Server on Different System
Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Sun, 14 Jan 2001 17:38:55 -0800
7. Re: Web Server on Different System
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Sun, 14 Jan 2001 19:09:06 -0800 (PST)
8. Feature Request: Thread Indexed Web Archives
Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Sun, 14 Jan 2001 19:29:22 -0800
9. Re: Web Server on Different System
Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Sun, 14 Jan 2001 19:28:10 -0800
10. Can AutoShare server scan for viruses?
Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:29:53 -0500
11. AutoShare & WebSTAR Mail?
Ford Pedersen <ford at turquoise dot net>
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:31:48 -1000
12. Re: Can AutoShare server scan for viruses?
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:00:30 -0800
13. Re: AutoShare & WebSTAR Mail?
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:07:53 -0800 (PST)
14. Re: Can AutoShare server scan for viruses?
"Charles L. Martin" <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 00:24:38 -0500
15. Re: Can AutoShare server scan for viruses?
Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:45:09 -0800
16. Re: AutoShare & WebSTAR Mail?
"Serge Belleudy-d'Espinose" <sam at ijm.jussieu dot fr>
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:43:50 +0100
17. Re: AutoShare & WebSTAR Mail?
Jon Gardner <jon at food.tamu dot edu>
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 07:17:37 -0600
18. Re: AutoShare & WebSTAR Mail? [OT]
"Serge Belleudy-d'Espinose" <sam at ijm.jussieu dot fr>
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:54:57 +0100
19. Re: Can AutoShare server scan for viruses?
Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:21:27 -0500
20. The resolution
bill.m.catambay at lmco dot com (Bill M Catambay)
Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:10:55 -0800
21. Re: The resolution
David Patschke <dpatschke at UBmail.ubalt dot edu>
Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:25:19 -0500
22. Line wraps in html archives
David Patschke <dpatschke at UBmail.ubalt dot edu>
Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:04:04 -0500
23. AutoShare "request addresses" & SIMS
Ford Pedersen <ford at turquoise dot net>
Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:47:52 -1000
24. Admin errors on launch
Ford Pedersen <ford at turquoise dot net>
Sat, 27 Jan 2001 07:51:40 -1000
25. Re: Line wraps in html archives
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Sat, 27 Jan 2001 23:20:07 -0800
26. Re: AutoShare "request addresses" & SIMS
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Sat, 27 Jan 2001 23:22:01 -0800
27. Re: Admin errors on launch
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Sat, 27 Jan 2001 23:24:08 -0800
28. List-Archive Header: http vs mailto URL
Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Sun, 28 Jan 2001 00:36:44 -0800
29. Re: Admin errors on launch
Ford Pedersen <ford at turquoise dot net>
Sun, 28 Jan 2001 08:49:17 -1000
30. Re: List-Archive Header: http vs mailto URL
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Sun, 28 Jan 2001 11:14:10 -0800
31. Re: Admin errors on launch
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Sun, 28 Jan 2001 11:35:57 -0800 (PST)
32. Re: Line wraps in html archives
David Patschke <dpatschke at UBmail.ubalt dot edu>
Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:19:58 -0500
33. Moderated list question
bill.m.catambay at lmco dot com (Bill M Catambay)
Wed, 31 Jan 2001 11:03:04 -0800
34. Re: Moderated list question
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Wed, 31 Jan 2001 20:40:53 -0800
35. Re: Moderated list question
Bill on Camelot <bill.m.catambay at lmco dot com>
Wed, 31 Jan 2001 22:03:29 -0800
36. Request for Autoshare enhancement...
Bill on Camelot <bill.m.catambay at lmco dot com>
Sat, 03 Feb 2001 23:47:30 -0800
37. Re: Request for Autoshare enhancement...
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Sun, 4 Feb 2001 05:35:50 -0800 (PST)
38. Re: List-Archive Header: http vs mailto URL
Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Sun, 4 Feb 2001 15:27:10 -0800
39. 3 questions
Tom Rule <trule at server.mds.macon.ga dot us>
Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:26:21 -0500 (EST)
40. Re: 3 questions
John Lubotsky <john at iglhrc dot org>
Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:49:01 -0800
41. Re: 3 questions
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Fri, 9 Feb 2001 05:39:23 -0800
42. Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 10 Feb 2001
Tom Rule <trule at server.mds.macon.ga dot us>
Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:16:21 -0500 (EST)
43. Errors in Admin, part deux
Tom Rule <trule at server.mds.macon.ga dot us>
Fri, 16 Feb 2001 10:24:25 -0500 (EST)
44. Re: Errors in Admin, part deux
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Sat, 17 Feb 2001 21:16:15 -0800
45. Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 18 Feb 2001
Steve <swiedem at henninger dot com>
Sun, 18 Feb 2001 03:09:22 -0500
46. That AppleScript thing
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Sun, 18 Feb 2001 01:53:30 -0800
47. AutoShare.CGI?
David Stodolsky <david.stodolsky at socialinformatics dot org>
Sun, 18 Feb 2001 14:20:41 +0100
48. Negative numbers?
David Stodolsky <david.stodolsky at socialinformatics dot org>
Sun, 18 Feb 2001 14:27:03 +0100
49. Re: AutoShare.CGI?
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Sun, 18 Feb 2001 09:41:44 -0800
50. Re: Negative numbers?
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Sun, 18 Feb 2001 09:43:14 -0800
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:23:50 -0800
From: Bill on Camelot <bill.m.catambay at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: Different Machine, Different Problem
This is a brand new machine, with a fresh install of OS 9.0.4, running only
EIMS, Hotline Server 1.8.4, Netpresenz, and Autoshare. The disk was
formatted before I set it up. *sigh*
I ran Norton and everything checks out fine. I rebooted with extensions off
and only ran Autoshare, and the problem still exists. I did notice that the
freezing occurs in cycles. When it first starts up, it freezes for awhile,
then it releases processing time back to the system for a few seconds, then
freezes again. It did this about 3 times, and then I was able to do other
things on the system, but Autoshare was still non-responsive to any menu
commands. The menus would pop down, but no matter what I chose, it wouldn't
do anything. It also isn't processing any posts. It's dead in the water.
About 10 minutes later, Autoshare attempted to process a file in the Filed
Mail folder, and immediately after processing, Autoshare quit (no error
messages, just quit). I started it back up again, and it went through the
same freeze cycles, then to non-responsive.
I guess the only thing left to do is re-install the OS and rebuild
everything from scratch.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
To: Subscribers of AutoShare-Talk <autoshare-talk at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: Different Machine, Different Problem
> At 17:33 -0800 1/10/2001, Bill on Camelot wrote:
>
> >I'm working a problem on a different machine now, with different mailing
> >lists. There's no bizarre file corruption going on this time, but I'm
still
> >just as mystified.
>
> Bill, it looks like you need to check your machines carefully with
> Norton and for third-party extensions. Something else is going on.
>
Subject: Re: Different Machine, Different Problem
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:34:03 -0500
From: Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
Wait! There's another possibility. Although my first thought was the same
as Mikael's, that there is a problem with the hardware or system
software, this is starting to sound more like bugs in the Mac OS. I have
experienced a number of problems with OS 9.0.4 freezing, not just in
AutoShare. In fact, it seems to happen the most with Microsoft Word. It
was worse with Word 98 than Word 2001, but it still happens some. One
thing I did to reduce the freezing was to disable IP serving for all Macs
on my network. This was a tremendous help. I used to have freezes of
about 25-30 seconds up to a minute, about every 5 minutes. Nothing else
helped. Now that I assign fixed IP addresses to all Macs, it only happens
every few hours. Sometimes I will notice that mail backs up in EIMS. If I
quit and re-start EIMS, it all starts going out again. But if I wait, it
will eventually send it all anyway.
So, I would investigate networking issues before anything else. Disable
the network, disconnect from the network and see if it still happens. If
not, you are on track to find the cause, or at least a way to minimize
it. If you manage to find the total solution, though, be sure and post it
here!
On 1/11/01 12:23 PM, Bill on Camelot said:
>This is a brand new machine, with a fresh install of OS 9.0.4, running onl=
y
>EIMS, Hotline Server 1.8.4, Netpresenz, and Autoshare. The disk was
>formatted before I set it up. *sigh*
>
>I ran Norton and everything checks out fine. I rebooted with extensions o=
ff
>and only ran Autoshare, and the problem still exists. I did notice that t=
he
>freezing occurs in cycles. When it first starts up, it freezes for awhile=
,
>then it releases processing time back to the system for a few seconds, the=
n
>freezes again. It did this about 3 times, and then I was able to do other
>things on the system, but Autoshare was still non-responsive to any menu
>commands. The menus would pop down, but no matter what I chose, it wouldn=
't
>do anything. It also isn't processing any posts. It's dead in the water.
>
>About 10 minutes later, Autoshare attempted to process a file in the Filed
>Mail folder, and immediately after processing, Autoshare quit (no error
>messages, just quit). I started it back up again, and it went through the
>same freeze cycles, then to non-responsive.
>
>I guess the only thing left to do is re-install the OS and rebuild
>everything from scratch.
Charles L. Martin
clmartin at theOmbudsman dot com
http://www.theOmbudsman.com/Martin_Law/
123 N. McDonough St.
Decatur, GA 30030
404-373-3116, FAX 801-881-1246
Alice: "The King seems so prejudiced."
King: "Thank you Alice. That¹s what makes me so eminently qualified to be=
Judge."
Alice in Wonderland, Lewis Carroll
Subject: Re: Different Machine, Different Problem
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:35:43 -0500
From: Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
One more thing. My laptop has had very severe freezing problems, but they
went away when I removed my DVD hardware. FWIW.
On 1/11/01 12:23 PM, Bill on Camelot said:
>a brand new machine
Charles L. Martin
clmartin at theOmbudsman dot com
http://www.theOmbudsman.com/Martin_Law/
123 N. McDonough St.
Decatur, GA 30030
404-373-3116, FAX 801-881-1246
Alice: "The King seems so prejudiced."
King: "Thank you Alice. That¹s what makes me so eminently qualified to be=
Judge."
Alice in Wonderland, Lewis Carroll
Date: 11 Jan 01 12:02:27 -0600
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: Re: Different Machine, Different Problem
Reply to: Re: Different Machine, Different Problem
If the machine "freezes" and then "unfreezes" it would appear to me that =
Autoshare is trying to process something. I would delete the filed Mail =
folder and create a new one. I suspect you might have a hidden file in =
there that could be the cause of the problem.
Just a guess. I hope it helps.
Chuck Boody
Analyst/Programmer
ISD 270
=======
Bill on Camelot wrote:
>This is a brand new machine, with a fresh install of OS 9.0.4, running =
only
>EIMS, Hotline Server 1.8.4, Netpresenz, and Autoshare. The disk was
>formatted before I set it up. *sigh*
>
>I ran Norton and everything checks out fine. I rebooted with extensions =
off
>and only ran Autoshare, and the problem still exists. I did notice that =
the
>freezing occurs in cycles. When it first starts up, it freezes for =
awhile,
>then it releases processing time back to the system for a few seconds, =
then
>freezes again. It did this about 3 times, and then I was able to do =
other
>things on the system, but Autoshare was still non-responsive to any menu
>commands. The menus would pop down, but no matter what I chose, it =
wouldn't
>do anything. It also isn't processing any posts. It's dead in the water.=
>
>About 10 minutes later, Autoshare attempted to process a file in the =
Filed
>Mail folder, and immediately after processing, Autoshare quit (no error
>messages, just quit). I started it back up again, and it went through =
the
>same freeze cycles, then to non-responsive.
>
>I guess the only thing left to do is re-install the OS and rebuild
>everything from scratch.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
>To: Subscribers of AutoShare-Talk <autoshare-talk at lists.pensive dot org>
>Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 7:30 AM
>Subject: Re: Different Machine, Different Problem
>
>
>> At 17:33 -0800 1/10/2001, Bill on Camelot wrote:
>>
>> >I'm working a problem on a different machine now, with different =
mailing
>> >lists. There's no bizarre file corruption going on this time, but I'm
>still
>> >just as mystified.
>>
>> Bill, it looks like you need to check your machines carefully with
>> Norton and for third-party extensions. Something else is going on.
>>
>
>
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Date: 11 Jan 01 12:04:00 -0600
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: Re: Different Machine, Different Problem
Reply to: Re: Different Machine, Different Problem
9.1 showed up on the apple web site yesterday. Rumor has it that it fixes =
some things of this sort.
Chuck Boody
Analyst/Programmer
ISD 270
=======
Charles L. Martin wrote:
>Wait! There's another possibility. Although my first thought was the same =
>as Mikael's, that there is a problem with the hardware or system =
>software, this is starting to sound more like bugs in the Mac OS. I have =
>experienced a number of problems with OS 9.0.4 freezing, not just in =
>AutoShare. In fact, it seems to happen the most with Microsoft Word. It =
>was worse with Word 98 than Word 2001, but it still happens some. One =
>thing I did to reduce the freezing was to disable IP serving for all Macs =
>on my network. This was a tremendous help. I used to have freezes of =
>about 25-30 seconds up to a minute, about every 5 minutes. Nothing else =
>helped. Now that I assign fixed IP addresses to all Macs, it only happens =
>every few hours. Sometimes I will notice that mail backs up in EIMS. If I =
>quit and re-start EIMS, it all starts going out again. But if I wait, it =
>will eventually send it all anyway. =
>
>So, I would investigate networking issues before anything else. Disable =
>the network, disconnect from the network and see if it still happens. If =
>not, you are on track to find the cause, or at least a way to minimize =
>it. If you manage to find the total solution, though, be sure and post it =
>here!
>
>On 1/11/01 12:23 PM, Bill on Camelot said:
>
>>This is a brand new machine, with a fresh install of OS 9.0.4, running =
only
>>EIMS, Hotline Server 1.8.4, Netpresenz, and Autoshare. The disk was
>>formatted before I set it up. *sigh*
>>
>>I ran Norton and everything checks out fine. I rebooted with extensions =
off
>>and only ran Autoshare, and the problem still exists. I did notice that =
the
>>freezing occurs in cycles. When it first starts up, it freezes for =
awhile,
>>then it releases processing time back to the system for a few seconds, =
then
>>freezes again. It did this about 3 times, and then I was able to do =
other
>>things on the system, but Autoshare was still non-responsive to any menu
>>commands. The menus would pop down, but no matter what I chose, it =
wouldn't
>>do anything. It also isn't processing any posts. It's dead in the =
water.
>>
>>About 10 minutes later, Autoshare attempted to process a file in the =
Filed
>>Mail folder, and immediately after processing, Autoshare quit (no error
>>messages, just quit). I started it back up again, and it went through =
the
>>same freeze cycles, then to non-responsive.
>>
>>I guess the only thing left to do is re-install the OS and rebuild
>>everything from scratch.
>
>
>Charles L. Martin
>clmartin at theOmbudsman dot com
>http://www.theOmbudsman.com/Martin_Law/
>123 N. McDonough St.
>Decatur, GA 30030
>404-373-3116, FAX 801-881-1246
>
>Alice: "The King seems so prejudiced."
>King: "Thank you Alice. That¹s what makes me so eminently qualified to =
be =
>Judge."
>Alice in Wonderland, Lewis Carroll
>
>
>RFC822 header
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Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 17:38:55 -0800
From: Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Subject: Web Server on Different System
I currently run all services (mail, web, AutoShare, etc.) on the same
physical machine. I have AutoShare generate web archives directly
into a folder inside the web server's folder.
I'd like to move the web server to its own machine. I can mount the
web server's disk on the machine which hosts the mail server and
AutoShare, and then everything should work normally.
My concern: if the web server system crashes or is unavailable when
AutoShare wants to update the web archives, what happens? Will the
archives get back in synch when the server is available again? Will
AutoShare get confused if the folder isn't available and stop
updating web archives? Will it skip updates while the web server is
unavailable, then resume again, leaving gaps in the archives?
--
Randall Gellens Randy at Pensive dot Org
---------------------- (randomly-selected tag) ---------------------
The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armor
to lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly
ignores the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology,
led them into it in the first place. --Douglas Adams
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 19:09:06 -0800 (PST)
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Web Server on Different System
On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, Randall Gellens wrote:
> Will it skip updates while the web server is
> unavailable, then resume again, leaving gaps in the archives?
As current web archive files are always updated in full based on the
standard archives, it usually doesn't matter.
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 19:29:22 -0800
From: Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Subject: Feature Request: Thread Indexed Web Archives
It would be very cool if AS could generate thread-indexed web
archives. That way someone could search for a keyword, find an
interesting message, and follow the entire thread.
--
Randall Gellens Randy at Pensive dot Org
---------------------- (randomly-selected tag) ---------------------
Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can
change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.
--Margaret Meed
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 19:28:10 -0800
From: Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Subject: Re: Web Server on Different System
At 7:09 PM -0800 1/14/01, Mikael Hansen wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, Randall Gellens wrote:
>
>> Will it skip updates while the web server is
>> unavailable, then resume again, leaving gaps in the archives?
>
> As current web archive files are always updated in full based on the
> standard archives, it usually doesn't matter.
Cool. So if the web server is down for a period of time while new
mail arrives, AS just updates its own archives, then when the next
message arrives after the web server is back, the web archives are
rebuilt, and thus are complete? Excellent. Thanks!
--
Randall Gellens Randy at Pensive dot Org
---------------------- (randomly-selected tag) ---------------------
I'm prepared for all emergencies but totally unprepared for
everyday life.
Subject: Can AutoShare server scan for viruses?
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:29:53 -0500
From: Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
I have had a number of messages from list subscribers worried about
getting viruses from a list message. I have the list set up to remove
attachments, but this does not seem to work, at least not all the time.
So, I was thinking, could NAV be set up to scan anything arriving in some
EIMS or AS folder for viruses? If so, what folder? Is there some way a
message could be deleted if a virus is detected? If not, I guess there's
no point.
Charles L. Martin
clmartin at theOmbudsman dot com
http://www.theOmbudsman.com/Martin_Law/
123 N. McDonough St.
Decatur, GA 30030
404-373-3116, FAX 801-881-1246
Alice: "The King seems so prejudiced."
King: "Thank you Alice. That¹s what makes me so eminently qualified to be
Judge."
Alice in Wonderland, Lewis Carroll
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:31:48 -1000
From: Ford Pedersen <ford at turquoise dot net>
Subject: AutoShare & WebSTAR Mail?
This may have been covered before, but can AutoShare support WebSTAR Mail?
If so, how to configure?
TIA,
Ford
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:00:30 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Can AutoShare server scan for viruses?
At 14:29 -0500 1/17/2001, Charles L. Martin wrote:
>So, I was thinking, could NAV be set up to scan anything arriving in some
>EIMS or AS folder for viruses? If so, what folder? Is there some way a
>message could be deleted if a virus is detected? If not, I guess there's
>no point.
I use Virex, which can be scripted to scan a file, which means that a
process extender can do it. That's all I can say, I'm afraid. I'm a
cynic here, most likely due to my belief that it's really a
client-side issue.
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:07:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare & WebSTAR Mail?
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Ford Pedersen wrote:
> This may have been covered before, but can AutoShare support WebSTAR Mail?
It's mostly the other way around. WebSTAR Mail probably, I dunno though,
doesn't support save message files in a folder and pick up message files
from a folder. Anyway, I'm not big on software trying to do everything.
AppleShare IP for instance is great for file sharing, but sucks as a mail
server, which I keep hearing over and over again. Both EIMS and SIMS, I'm
sure, work fine on a box running WebSTAR.
Subject: Re: Can AutoShare server scan for viruses?
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 00:24:38 -0500
From: "Charles L. Martin" <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
Fair enough. But a more general question may be better protection,
anyway. Can I do anything to make sure that no message to a list goes out
as anything other than Plain text? I would also like to suppress all
attachments. I have the list set up to nix attachments, but I can't see
that it does anything. Maybe I didn't do it right.
On 1/17/01 11:00 PM, Mikael Hansen said:
>At 14:29 -0500 1/17/2001, Charles L. Martin wrote:
>
>>So, I was thinking, could NAV be set up to scan anything arriving in some
>>EIMS or AS folder for viruses? If so, what folder? Is there some way a
>>message could be deleted if a virus is detected? If not, I guess there's
>>no point.
>
>I use Virex, which can be scripted to scan a file, which means that a
>process extender can do it. That's all I can say, I'm afraid. I'm a
>cynic here, most likely due to my belief that it's really a
>client-side issue.
Charles L. Martin
clmartin at theOmbudsman dot com
http://www.theOmbudsman.com/Martin_Law/
123 N. McDonough St.
Decatur, GA 30030
404-373-3116, FAX 801-881-1246
Alice: "The King seems so prejudiced."
King: "Thank you Alice. That¹s what makes me so eminently qualified to be
Judge."
Alice in Wonderland, Lewis Carroll
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:45:09 -0800
From: Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Subject: Re: Can AutoShare server scan for viruses?
At 12:24 AM -0500 1/18/01, Charles L. Martin wrote:
> I have the list set up to nix attachments, but I can't see
> that it does anything.
This confused me at first. It leaves the shell of the attachment,
but eviscerates the body. Thus what gets sent is an empty
attachment, which still shows up as an icon in email, but is
harmless. Personally, I'd prefer hat it replaced the attachment with
a text/plain body part that said "attachment <name> removed by <list
name> server". To preserve as much as possible of the MIME
structure, this could have a Content-Type header of "text/plain;
Disposition=inline".
--
Randall Gellens Randy at Pensive dot Org
---------------------- (randomly-selected tag) ---------------------
I suppose when it gets to that point, we shan't know how it does it.
--Turing
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:43:50 +0100
From: "Serge Belleudy-d'Espinose" <sam at ijm.jussieu dot fr>
Subject: Re: AutoShare & WebSTAR Mail?
At 20:07 -0800 17/01/01, Mikael Hansen wrote:
>It's mostly the other way around. WebSTAR Mail probably, I dunno though,
>doesn't support save message files in a folder and pick up message files
>from a folder. Anyway, I'm not big on software trying to do everything.
>AppleShare IP for instance is great for file sharing, but sucks as a mail
>server, which I keep hearing over and over again. Both EIMS and SIMS, I'm
>sure, work fine on a box running WebSTAR.
I run a G3 server with ASIP, but have never bothered even trying it as a mail server - sharing the same user database as the file sharing, are they kidding!!.
I still, and will always, use SIMS on the same machine. It is undoubtedly far more flexible, has proven stable for months - not ASIP on the other hand :) - plus it's free.
Serge
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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 07:17:37 -0600
Subject: Re: AutoShare & WebSTAR Mail?
From: Jon Gardner <jon at food.tamu dot edu>
on 1/18/01 5:43 AM, Serge Belleudy-d'Espinose at sam at ijm.jussieu dot fr wrote:
> I run a G3 server with ASIP, but have never bothered even trying it as a mail
> server - sharing the same user database as the file sharing, are they
> kidding!!.
> I still, and will always, use SIMS on the same machine. It is undoubtedly far
> more flexible, has proven stable for months - not ASIP on the other hand :) -
> plus it's free.
You'll probably know the answers to these, then. When running SIMS alongside
ASIP, if you configure a SIMS user account to use the Mac OS password, does
it pick up the ASIP password OK? Does the SIMS username have to match the
ASIP username, or does it work if it just matches the ASIP email alias?
<><
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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:54:57 +0100
From: "Serge Belleudy-d'Espinose" <sam at ijm.jussieu dot fr>
Subject: Re: AutoShare & WebSTAR Mail? [OT]
At 7:17 -0600 18/01/01, Jon Gardner wrote:
>You'll probably know the answers to these, then. When running SIMS alongside
>ASIP, if you configure a SIMS user account to use the Mac OS password, does
>it pick up the ASIP password OK? Does the SIMS username have to match the
>ASIP username, or does it work if it just matches the ASIP email alias?
As I said, I never even tried using ASIP as a mail server.
I can do it however, if you want to have answers :)
The reason I never tried is that I was already using SIMS for years before ASIP. Sure, ASIP may have its advantages, but it also lacks the flexibility and accessibility of SIMS and I will never accept the trade-offs.
We can talk more on this off-list if you want.
Serge
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Subject: Re: Can AutoShare server scan for viruses?
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:21:27 -0500
From: Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
Your statement that attachments are empty did not seem right to me, so I
sent a list two messages, one with a text file attachment, and the other
with a stuffed version of the same file. The message with the text file
attachment came through with no attachment. The stuffed attachment came
through to the list complete (i.e. it was not empty). Since it came
through unaltered, it cannot be guaranteed to be harmless. I am not sure
this matters that much, though, as a virus which was recently sent to one
of my lists was NOT an attachment, but was encoded in the message itself.
So no attachment was shown, it just infected people's computers (if they
were running an old version of Outlook).
On 1/18/01 12:45 AM, Randall Gellens said:
>At 12:24 AM -0500 1/18/01, Charles L. Martin wrote:
>
>> I have the list set up to nix attachments, but I can't see
>> that it does anything.
>
>This confused me at first. It leaves the shell of the attachment,
>but eviscerates the body. Thus what gets sent is an empty
>attachment, which still shows up as an icon in email, but is
>harmless.
Charles L. Martin
clmartin at theOmbudsman dot com
http://www.theOmbudsman.com/Martin_Law/
123 N. McDonough St.
Decatur, GA 30030
404-373-3116, FAX 801-881-1246
Alice: "The King seems so prejudiced."
King: "Thank you Alice. That¹s what makes me so eminently qualified to be
Judge."
Alice in Wonderland, Lewis Carroll
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:10:55 -0800
From: bill.m.catambay at lmco dot com (Bill M Catambay)
Subject: The resolution
As requested, I am reporting back as to how my situation eventually
got resolved.
Awhile back I reported that Autoshare was freezing up on my system
(or more like, freezing, letting go, freezing, letting go, freezing,
etc.). Additionally, things getting posted would should up in the
Filed Mail folder, but then would hang Autoshare and never get
routed. And then there was that strange error message when I clicked
on Lists in Autoshare Admin.
I let the lists be dead for awhile, as I wasn't feeling optimistic at
the time (remember, I'm the same one who experienced a series of
mailing list problems earlier last year due to a bad hard drive). A
few days ago, however, I proceeded to re-install the OS and see if I
could get it working again.
I felt daring (or is it lazy?) and copied over the EIMS preferences
and the Autoshare preferences. Before loading anything else, I just
tried to get the test lists up and running. So, with EIMS running, I
started Autoshare, and it appeared to freeze. I noticed that it
still had a file in the Filed Mail folder, so I forced quit
Autoshare, removed the file, and then started Autoshare again. This
time it ran fine, without any freeze pauses at all.
I also removed a file from the Bounced Mail folder as I suspected it
was giving Autoshare some trouble. I looked at both these files
(Filed Mail and Bounce), and they were interesting. In both cases,
it looked like an infinite loop had generated the files. For
example, in the Filed Mail file, I recognized the post (it was only a
few lines), but the post was repeated within the file hundreds upon
hundreds of times. The Bounce file was the same... it was a normal
bounce e-mail, but repeated over and over again. I have no idea what
or how these were created, but I suspect this had everything to do
with why Autoshare was coughing up blood.
I made posts to the test list, and Autoshare handled them fine. I
re-instated the real lists, and they also seemed to be working fine.
No problems for about a week now.
One problem that still persists, however, is that darn error message
I get in Autoshare Admin every time I click on Lists. The exact
error message can be seen at the following URL:
http://www.pascal-central.com/autoshare/autoshare.gif
How do I get rid of this message? It doesn't seem to be affecting
anything in a negative way, but it is unnerving to see (especially
when I'm already paranoid now).
Thanks,
Bill
--
Bill Catambay, Software Developer
mailto:bill.m.catambay at lmco dot com
(408) 742-1000
Pascal Central......... http://pascal-central.com/
EMR Infinity........... http://www.excaliburworld.com/emr/
Macintosh Guild........ http://www.bobrk.com/lmms/mac/
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:25:19 -0500
From: David Patschke <dpatschke at UBmail.ubalt dot edu>
Subject: Re: The resolution
on 1/22/01 1:10 PM, Bill M Catambay at bill.m.catambay at lmco dot com wrote:
> I also removed a file from the Bounced Mail folder as I suspected it
> was giving Autoshare some trouble. I looked at both these files
> (Filed Mail and Bounce), and they were interesting. In both cases,
> it looked like an infinite loop had generated the files. For
> example, in the Filed Mail file, I recognized the post (it was only a
> few lines), but the post was repeated within the file hundreds upon
> hundreds of times. The Bounce file was the same... it was a normal
> bounce e-mail, but repeated over and over again. I have no idea what
> or how these were created, but I suspect this had everything to do
> with why Autoshare was coughing up blood.
The same exact thing happened to me - twice so far, but I haven't been able
to track down the cause. It's been about 6 mos. Since the last time.
--
David Patschke
Director of Technologies
School of Communications Design
University of Baltimore
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:04:04 -0500
From: David Patschke <dpatschke at UBmail.ubalt dot edu>
Subject: Line wraps in html archives
I'm having a problem where the web archives will truncate a line that's over
a certain length in the middle of the word: shifting the offending
characters to the next line, then starting a whole new line afterwards --no
returns were made in the text message sent. I've been through the docs but
am unable to see where I might be able to fix this... I saw "Line Format" in
Autoshare Admin Prefs>More Misc., but altering it didn't seem to have an
effect. The emails themselves get passed along correctly --its only the web
archives that have this problem.
For example:
5. Appropriation of Content. Students may use stock photography and video
borrowings as long as the work being used has been shaped (or edited) to fi
t
the new context. (Thus, commercials that consist entirely of the work of
others are not acceptable, but collages and pastiches are.) You will not b
e
required to obtain copyright permission for work being used because what
Can anyone clue me in?
--
David Patschke
Director of Technologies
School of Communications Design
University of Baltimore
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:47:52 -1000
From: Ford Pedersen <ford at turquoise dot net>
Subject: AutoShare "request addresses" & SIMS
Does AutoShare support the "request addresses" (i.e. <list>-on@domain
to subscribe) for SIMS? Do you have to create an email account alias
to the autoshare account?
TIA,
Ford
--
_________________________________________________
Ford Pedersen
808 325-1614 mailto:ford at turquoise dot net
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 07:51:40 -1000
From: Ford Pedersen <ford at turquoise dot net>
Subject: Admin errors on launch
When launching AutoShare Admin, it comes up with AppleScript error
messages. According to the manual, QuickTime & QuickTime PowerPlug
should be active in the Extensions folder. The FaceSpan Extension is
there as well.
What's going wrong?
TIA,
Ford
--
_________________________________________________
Ford Pedersen
808 325-1614 mailto:ford at turquoise dot net
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 23:20:07 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Line wraps in html archives
At 12:04 -0500 1/25/2001, David Patschke wrote:
>I'm having a problem where the web archives will truncate a line that's over
>a certain length in the middle of the word
...
>I saw "Line Format" in Autoshare Admin Prefs>More Misc.
E-mail message bodies in raw form should not really have lines much
more than 80 or so characters. If you however come across this often,
add the letter P to Misc Stuff, and AutoShare will reformat body
lines with the width specified in Line Format, when processing of the
given message file begins.
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 23:22:01 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare "request addresses" & SIMS
At 11:47 -1000 1/26/2001, Ford Pedersen wrote:
>Does AutoShare support the "request addresses" (i.e.
><list>-on@domain to subscribe) for SIMS? Do you have to create an
>email account alias to the autoshare account?
You need to configure SIMS to drop messages addressed to
<list>-on@domain in the Filed Mail folder, so that AutoShare knows
about them.
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 23:24:08 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Admin errors on launch
At 07:51 -1000 1/27/2001, Ford Pedersen wrote:
>When launching AutoShare Admin, it comes up with AppleScript error
>messages. According to the manual, QuickTime & QuickTime PowerPlug
>should be active in the Extensions folder. The FaceSpan Extension is
>there as well.
The error at launch time is usually that the Admin can't find
AutoShare. Just click the Remote button and re-establish contact. The
4.2.2 beta fixes a common instance of such an error in 4.2.1.
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 00:36:44 -0800
From: Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Subject: List-Archive Header: http vs mailto URL
Is there a way to have AS put an http URL to the web archives in the
List-Archive header instead of the mailto URL?
--
Randall Gellens Randy at Pensive dot Org
---------------------- (randomly-selected tag) ---------------------
Resistance is Useless! (If less than one ohm.)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 08:49:17 -1000
From: Ford Pedersen <ford at turquoise dot net>
Subject: Re: Admin errors on launch
>The error at launch time is usually that the Admin can't find
>AutoShare. Just click the Remote button and re-establish contact.
>The 4.2.2 beta fixes a common instance of such an error in 4.2.1.
OK, now AutoShare Admin can find AutoShare but it still comes up with
errors. Am I missing an extension or something? AppleScript and
standard Apple-related extensions are active.
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 11:14:10 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: List-Archive Header: http vs mailto URL
At 00:36 -0800 1/28/2001, Randall Gellens wrote:
>Is there a way to have AS put an http URL to the web archives in the
>List-Archive header instead of the mailto URL?
There is no built-in way of doing it at this time. Given that I'm a
regular blurry-eyed Rip Van Winkle these months, would you be willing
to settle for a barebone approach that requires you to enter the URL
using the Admin's Command-9?
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 11:35:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Admin errors on launch
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Ford Pedersen wrote:
> >The error at launch time is usually that the Admin can't find
> >AutoShare. Just click the Remote button and re-establish contact.
> >The 4.2.2 beta fixes a common instance of such an error in 4.2.1.
>
> OK, now AutoShare Admin can find AutoShare but it still comes up with
> errors. Am I missing an extension or something? AppleScript and
> standard Apple-related extensions are active.
If you send some screenshots (command-shift-3) to me off the list, I can
look into it.
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:19:58 -0500
From: David Patschke <dpatschke at UBmail.ubalt dot edu>
Subject: Re: Line wraps in html archives
on 1/28/01 2:20 AM, Mikael Hansen at meh at dnai dot com wrote:
>
> E-mail message bodies in raw form should not really have lines much
> more than 80 or so characters. If you however come across this often,
> add the letter P to Misc Stuff, and AutoShare will reformat body
> lines with the width specified in Line Format, when processing of the
> given message file begins.
Ok, I think I figured out what's going on here--
When I viewed the "source" of my email message in MS Entourage, I saw that
when I was copying and pasting text into a message and sending it to the
list, it was showing up with "Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable".
Messages that I just typed in as text were showing up as
"Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit". I'm not really sure why/how this encoding
change was occurring, or how to keep it from happening again by default. I
was able to override it by setting the character set format to "Unicode
(UTF-7)".
In the messages I created by pasting text (and it was just plain text)
Entourage was breaking the lines and inserting a = where it did. I guess the
subscriber's email programs were putting the lines back together somehow,
but the Autoshare web archives were displaying it as sent. (I guess there's
no way to get the web archives to piece it back together automatically?). I
saw with 4.2.1 you got it to delete the = signs, but I was still left with
the extra line breaks.
--
David Patschke
Director of Technologies
School of Communications Design
University of Baltimore
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 11:03:04 -0800
From: bill.m.catambay at lmco dot com (Bill M Catambay)
Subject: Moderated list question
I just created a moderated list, and what I'd like to do I haven't
yet figured out how to do.
I want all posts to come to me for, and they are. Then, upon
approving the post, I would like to redirect them to the mailing list
such that the RFC From still shows the poster, and the envelope
sender would be me. For subscription list, posts are recognized
based upon the RFC From or Envelope Sender, but it doesn't seem to be
working the same for this moderated list. When I redirected the post
to the list, it came back to me saying that it was forwarded to the
moderator (who is me). Do I need to do something different to get
this to work? Does Autoshare support what I am trying to do?
Bill
--
Bill Catambay, Software Developer
mailto:bill.m.catambay at lmco dot com
(408) 742-1000
Pascal Central......... http://pascal-central.com/
EMR Infinity........... http://www.excaliburworld.com/emr/
Macintosh Guild........ http://www.bobrk.com/lmms/mac/
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 20:40:53 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Moderated list question
At 11:03 -0800 1/31/2001, Bill M Catambay wrote:
>I just created a moderated list, and what I'd like to do I haven't
>yet figured out how to do.
>
>I want all posts to come to me for, and they are. Then, upon
>approving the post, I would like to redirect them to the mailing
>list such that the RFC From still shows the poster, and the envelope
>sender would be me. For subscription list, posts are recognized
>based upon the RFC From or Envelope Sender, but it doesn't seem to
>be working the same for this moderated list. When I redirected the
>post to the list, it came back to me saying that it was forwarded to
>the moderator (who is me). Do I need to do something different to
>get this to work? Does Autoshare support what I am trying to do?
That should work, given that the listmaster address matches the
message's envelope sender address. Step one is to make sure it is so,
e.g. by opening the resource fork of a message file in the Filed Mail
folder (this address also appears e.g. in the Status window) and
comparing it to your configured listmaster address.
<http://www.dnai/com/~meh/autoshare/documentation/#listtypes>
You can also approach moderated lists the following way, if that
agrees better with your setup.
<http://www.dnai/com/~meh/autoshare/documentation/#moderators>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 22:03:29 -0800
From: Bill on Camelot <bill.m.catambay at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: Moderated list question
The message's envelope sender address did match the listmaster address, but
it didn't work. Then I went into Autoshare Admin, More Preferences, and I
unchecked the RFC From box. This, I believe, forces Autoshare to use the
envelope sender. After I did that, the posts went through.
The part I'm confused about is that I thought if you had the RFC From
checked, and the Alias box checked, that Autoshare would accept a match
based on either the Envelope sender or the RFC from (which is what I
wanted). Can someone un-confuse me?
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mikael Hansen" <meh at dnai dot com>
To: "Subscribers of AutoShare-Talk" <autoshare-talk at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: Moderated list question
> At 11:03 -0800 1/31/2001, Bill M Catambay wrote:
>
> >I just created a moderated list, and what I'd like to do I haven't
> >yet figured out how to do.
> >
> >I want all posts to come to me for, and they are. Then, upon
> >approving the post, I would like to redirect them to the mailing
> >list such that the RFC From still shows the poster, and the envelope
> >sender would be me. For subscription list, posts are recognized
> >based upon the RFC From or Envelope Sender, but it doesn't seem to
> >be working the same for this moderated list. When I redirected the
> >post to the list, it came back to me saying that it was forwarded to
> >the moderator (who is me). Do I need to do something different to
> >get this to work? Does Autoshare support what I am trying to do?
>
> That should work, given that the listmaster address matches the
> message's envelope sender address. Step one is to make sure it is so,
> e.g. by opening the resource fork of a message file in the Filed Mail
> folder (this address also appears e.g. in the Status window) and
> comparing it to your configured listmaster address.
>
> <http://www.dnai/com/~meh/autoshare/documentation/#listtypes>
>
> You can also approach moderated lists the following way, if that
> agrees better with your setup.
>
> <http://www.dnai/com/~meh/autoshare/documentation/#moderators>
>
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 23:47:30 -0800
From: Bill on Camelot <bill.m.catambay at lmco dot com>
Subject: Request for Autoshare enhancement...
When Autoshare unsubscribes a member due to a soft bounce, would it be too
much trouble to enhance it such that the e-mail that gets sent to the
listmaster would include the name of the person as well as the e-mail?
When I get these messages, I need to know who the person is, and I can't
always tell just from the e-mail address (and the list is my only record of
the person).
Thanks,
Bill
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Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 05:35:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Request for Autoshare enhancement...
On Sat, 3 Feb 2001, Bill on Camelot wrote:
> When Autoshare unsubscribes a member due to a soft bounce, would it be too
> much trouble to enhance it such that the e-mail that gets sent to the
> listmaster would include the name of the person as well as the e-mail?
No trouble at all.
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 15:27:10 -0800
From: Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Subject: Re: List-Archive Header: http vs mailto URL
At 11:14 AM -0800 1/28/01, Mikael Hansen wrote:
> At 00:36 -0800 1/28/2001, Randall Gellens wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to have AS put an http URL to the web archives in
>> the List-Archive header instead of the mailto URL?
>
> There is no built-in way of doing it at this time. Given that I'm a
> regular blurry-eyed Rip Van Winkle these months, would you be
> willing to settle for a barebone approach that requires you to
> enter the URL using the Admin's Command-9?
I'm happy to enter the URL manually. It seems to fit with being able
to enter the other URLs, such as List-Help (which is of course more
obvious than the cmd-9 route, but that's fine).
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:26:21 -0500 (EST)
From: Tom Rule <trule at server.mds.macon.ga dot us>
Subject: 3 questions
Autoshare 4.1.1, running on System 7.5.5, on a Mac LCIII with 20 meg of
RAM (7 meg currently free). [hey, we use em' till they fall apart here!]
EIMS and MacHTTP are currently running as well.
1. I'm getting consistent error mesages in the Admin (both local and
remote connections). When I call up the list settings (any of them) I'm
getting a message to the effect of "coudn't get part of the data" and then
a blank list settings window pops up - blank meaning there' sno list title
and none of the radio buttons are set.
This is making rather difficult to set any of the list parameters.
Suggestions?
2. I'm trying to set up an autoreply list (mds_info at list.mds.macon.ga dot us).
Rather than sending the document I've set up (in
HD:Auto:Documents:mds_info:Default file), I keep getting back "You can't
post to this list because you aren't subscribed".
What do I need to change to get the auto-reply to work?
3. Polls - where is some info about setting up a Poll - list specific
settings, etc. The first one I tried, I had an email loop (what "fun"!).
Thanks, all!
**************************************************
Tom Rule
Mount de Sales Academy - Macon, GA
Mac Guy, Webmaster, and Fill-in-the-Blank
www.mds.macon.ga.us/~trule/
Not your father's church music!
www.vbc-vnbc.org/ministry/music/praiseband
www.mp3.com/TomCo/ Tom&Co Album
www.mp3.com/TomEx/ The Experimental stuff
www/mp3.com/Trule/ The Regular stuff
***************************************************
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:49:01 -0800
From: John Lubotsky <john at iglhrc dot org>
Subject: Re: 3 questions
Tom,
I can help with #1, as it sounds like the same problem I was having:
Try limiting the number of records in the list you view to 500 at a
time.
To quote an earlier post from Mikael Hansen:
"After selecting the list name and before clicking on the List button, I
recommend adjusting the From and Count fields. Last I checked, the Admin
did 500 or so subscribers using the default memory setting, and speed-wise
it may not be worth it beyond that anyway given AppleScript."
Best Regards,
John Lubotsky
Information Technology Manager
International Gay & Lesbian Human Rights Commission
http://www.iglhrc.org
>Autoshare 4.1.1, running on System 7.5.5, on a Mac LCIII with 20 meg of
>RAM (7 meg currently free). [hey, we use em' till they fall apart here!]
>
>EIMS and MacHTTP are currently running as well.
>
>1. I'm getting consistent error mesages in the Admin (both local and
>remote connections). When I call up the list settings (any of them) I'm
>getting a message to the effect of "coudn't get part of the data" and then
>a blank list settings window pops up - blank meaning there' sno list title
>and none of the radio buttons are set.
>
>This is making rather difficult to set any of the list parameters.
>Suggestions?
>
>2. I'm trying to set up an autoreply list (mds_info at list.mds.macon.ga dot us).
>Rather than sending the document I've set up (in
>HD:Auto:Documents:mds_info:Default file), I keep getting back "You can't
>post to this list because you aren't subscribed".
>
>What do I need to change to get the auto-reply to work?
>
>3. Polls - where is some info about setting up a Poll - list specific
>settings, etc. The first one I tried, I had an email loop (what "fun"!).
>
>
>Thanks, all!
>
> **************************************************
> Tom Rule
> Mount de Sales Academy - Macon, GA
> Mac Guy, Webmaster, and Fill-in-the-Blank
> www.mds.macon.ga.us/~trule/
> Not your father's church music!
> www.vbc-vnbc.org/ministry/music/praiseband
> www.mp3.com/TomCo/ Tom&Co Album
> www.mp3.com/TomEx/ The Experimental stuff
> www/mp3.com/Trule/ The Regular stuff
> ***************************************************
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 05:39:23 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: 3 questions
At 16:26 -0500 2/8/2001, Tom Rule wrote:
>2. I'm trying to set up an autoreply list (mds_info at list.mds.macon.ga dot us).
>Rather than sending the document I've set up (in
>HD:Auto:Documents:mds_info:Default file), I keep getting back "You can't
>post to this list because you aren't subscribed".
Chances are that you have an mds_info file in your List Server
folder. Once you remove that, mds_info is no longer a list.
I incidently sent a mail to mds_info at list.mds.macon.ga dot us, but was
told that "DNS for host list.mds.macon.ga.us is mis-configured".
>3. Polls - where is some info about setting up a Poll - list specific
>settings, etc. The first one I tried, I had an email loop (what "fun"!).
There is some info at
<http://www.dnai.com/~meh/autoshare/documentation/#poll>
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:16:21 -0500 (EST)
From: Tom Rule <trule at server.mds.macon.ga dot us>
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 10 Feb 2001
>
> I incidently sent a mail to mds_info at list.mds.macon.ga dot us, but was
> told that "DNS for host list.mds.macon.ga.us is mis-configured".
>
Hmmmm...Thanks! I'll check into it. We do run our own DNS, so we probably
missed that one little se4tting that would make the whole
difference...........
...and my students wonder why I tell them that computers are inherently
stupid!
**************************************************
Tom Rule
Mount de Sales Academy - Macon, GA
Mac Guy, Webmaster, and Fill-in-the-Blank
www.mds.macon.ga.us/~trule/
Not your father's church music!
www.vbc-vnbc.org/ministry/music/praiseband
www.mp3.com/TomCo/ Tom&Co Album
www.mp3.com/TomEx/ The Experimental stuff
www/mp3.com/Trule/ The Regular stuff
***************************************************
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 10:24:25 -0500 (EST)
From: Tom Rule <trule at server.mds.macon.ga dot us>
Subject: Errors in Admin, part deux
In the Admin, I keep getting the same error. I'll select a list, the click
the "more list" button. I get an Applescript error:
An error occured while executing the script of window "List". no reult
was returned from some part of this expression. (-2763)
So I'll fill in the window and update. When I call up the window
again, I get the same error, and the window is blank (i.e. no fields or
buttons filled in).
I've tried the fix of only selecting a few subscribers to show in the list
members window (I've only got 15 subscribers right now - we're still in
the setup stage).
Suggestions?
TIA!
**************************************************
Tom Rule
Mount de Sales Academy - Macon, GA
Mac Guy, Webmaster, and Fill-in-the-Blank
www.mds.macon.ga.us/~trule/
Not your father's church music!
www.vbc-vnbc.org/ministry/music/praiseband
www.mp3.com/TomCo/ Tom&Co Album
www.mp3.com/TomEx/ The Experimental stuff
www/mp3.com/Trule/ The Regular stuff
***************************************************
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 21:16:15 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Errors in Admin, part deux
At 10:24 -0500 2/16/2001, Tom Rule wrote:
>In the Admin, I keep getting the same error. I'll select a list, the click
>the "more list" button. I get an Applescript error:
>
>An error occured while executing the script of window "List". no reult
>was returned from some part of this expression. (-2763)
This could happen if the list name reflects no actual list. I'm not
sure how you would get in that situation in the first place.
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 03:09:22 -0500
From: Steve <swiedem at henninger dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 18 Feb 2001
> At 10:24 -0500 2/16/2001, Tom Rule wrote:
>
> >In the Admin, I keep getting the same error. I'll select a list, the click
> >the "more list" button. I get an Applescript error blah blah blah
>
> This could happen if the list name reflects no actual list. I'm not
> sure how you would get in that situation in the first place.
>
Here's how I've seen this error: you can create and edit lists with a
text editor and install the list in the proper path, but you must first
tell AutoShare that you are creating a new list. Create a list using
all the proper AutoShare controls, then edit the existing file if you wish.
Steve Wiedemann
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 01:53:30 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: That AppleScript thing
Some of you may have noticed a simple AppleScript CGI application
that I whipped up Wednesday evening. It allows EIMS users to manage
their account properties using a web browser. An AppleScript CGI
template, some HTML forms and some EIMS script code had been sitting
around collecting dust in the AutoShare archive for a couple years,
so I figured I'd put some idle time to good use while listening to my
newly arrived O Brother, Where Art Thou? soundtrack CD.
<http://www.dnai.com/~meh/download/eimscgi/>
Along the lines of AppleScript and mail servers, some of you have
likely also noticed that Serge Belleudy-d'Espinose around a week ago
uploaded ScrIMS, AppleScript resources for SIMS. ScrIMS is an
AppleScript library, whose functionality is much like that of a
scripting addition.
The funny thing about SIMS is that while CommuniGator communicates
with SIMS via AppleEvent calls exclusively, there is next to no
AppleScript dictionary in SIMS to this day. I once had some MacsBug
fun one evening a while back tracking AppleEvent calls between
CommuniGator and SIMS, but it never turned into anything useful.
Serge goes straight to the SIMS data files, whose internal format is
described on his web page. It's my guess it's possible to write a CGI
for SIMS too.
<http://www.ijm.jussieu.fr/ScrIMS/>
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Oscar: "It's not missing in here either."
Felix: "How can you tell?"
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 14:20:41 +0100
From: David Stodolsky <david.stodolsky at socialinformatics dot org>
Subject: AutoShare.CGI?
I can't get AutoShare.CGI to work under Personal Web Sharing with MOS
9.0.4. I set the prefs to Launch at suffix, which is set to .CGI, but the
system just hangs and eventual gives:
A CGI or internal server component could not complete the requested action.
My request:
http://192.168.1.2:1080/AutoShare.CGI
I tried to look at "autoshare cgi client", but this hangs the system, when
double-clicked.
dss
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Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 14:27:03 +0100
From: David Stodolsky <david.stodolsky at socialinformatics dot org>
Subject: Negative numbers?
What could be causing these negative numbers?
AutoShare version is 4.2.1
Next log in -14:-15:-41
Next digest in -14:-15:-41
dss
--
David S. Stodolsky, PhD PGP: 0x35490763 david.stodolsky at ddf dot dk
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 09:41:44 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare.CGI?
At 14:20 +0100 2/18/2001, David Stodolsky wrote:
>I can't get AutoShare.CGI to work under Personal Web Sharing with MOS
>9.0.4. I set the prefs to Launch at suffix, which is set to .CGI, but the
>system just hangs and eventual gives:
>A CGI or internal server component could not complete the requested action.
>
>My request:
>http://192.168.1.2:1080/AutoShare.CGI
>
>I tried to look at "autoshare cgi client", but this hangs the system, when
>double-clicked.
"autoshare cgi client" is a regular compiled script. If it hangs when
you double-click it and before you get a chance to do anything else
such as pressing the Run button, the culprit is likely not the
script, but rather something with your system, and that could be one
of many things. Have you tried starting up "autoshare cgi client" on
another Mac?
Since you mention Mac OS 9.0.4, the following web page may be of interest.
<http://www.AppleScriptSourcebook.com/applescript/applescript140.html>
You're basically encouraged to download the AppleScript 1.4.3 updater from
<http://asu.info.apple.com/swupdates.nsf/artnum/n11683>
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 09:43:14 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Negative numbers?
At 14:27 +0100 2/18/2001, David Stodolsky wrote:
>What could be causing these negative numbers?
>
>AutoShare version is 4.2.1
>Next log in -14:-15:-41
>Next digest in -14:-15:-41
That merely means that you haven't been running AutoShare for a
while. If you quit and restart, all is likely to be well.
Last updated on 18 Feb 2001 by Pensive Mailing List Admin