The AutoShare-Talk list archive ending on 18 Mar 2001


Topics covered in this issue include:

  1. Re: Strip attachments?
       Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
       Fri, 2 Mar 2001 06:58:16 -0800
  2. Re: Strip attachments?
       Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
       Fri, 2 Mar 2001 14:02:19 -0500
  3. Re: Strip attachments?
       bill.m.catambay at lmco dot com (Bill M Catambay)
       Fri, 02 Mar 2001 12:23:10 -0800
  4. Re: Strip attachments?
       Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
       Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:11:09 -0800
  5. Dealing with ISP recipient limits
       "Terry R. Schussler" <terry at trevimedia dot com>
       Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:32:37 -0800
  6. Re: Dealing with ISP recipient limits
       Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
       Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:53:41 -0800 (PST)
  7. Re: Dealing with ISP recipient limits
       "Terry R. Schussler" <terry at trevimedia dot com>
       Mon, 5 Mar 2001 01:37:38 -0800
  8. Re: Dealing with ISP recipient limits
       bill.m.catambay at lmco dot com (Bill M Catambay)
       Mon, 05 Mar 2001 10:33:55 -0800
  9. Re: Dealing with ISP recipient limits
       Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
       Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:48:35 -0800
 10. Re: Dealing with ISP recipient limits
       "Terry R. Schussler" <terry at trevimedia dot com>
       Mon, 5 Mar 2001 19:45:55 -0800
 11. Re: Dealing with ISP recipient limits
       Bill Catambay <bill.m.catambay at lmco dot com>
       Tue, 06 Mar 2001 09:26:46 -0800
 12. AutoShare 4.2.2d3
       Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
       Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:09:45 -0800
 13. AutoShare 4.2.2d3 quits on getting a list in ADMIN
       Laine Lee <LLee at utsa dot edu>
       Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:33:51 -0600 
 14. Re: AutoShare 4.2.2d3 quits on getting a list in ADMIN
       Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
       Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:40:31 -0800 (PST)
 15. Re: AutoShare 4.2.2d3 quits on getting a list in ADMIN
       Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
       Thu, 8 Mar 2001 18:39:28 -0800
 16. Listserv hick-up
       Timo Ochmann <timo at bigmindmedia dot com>
       Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:02:55 -0800
 17. Re: Listserv hick-up
       Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
       Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:26:26 -0800
 18. Re: Listserv hick-up
       Timo Ochmann <timo at bigmindmedia dot com>
       Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:36:57 -0800
 19. Re: Listserv hick-up
       Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
       Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:35:12 -0800
 20. Small lists are vanishing
       Mark Hartman <mh-list at harthaven dot com>
       Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:24:17 -0800
 21. Re: Listserv hick-up
       Timo Ochmann <timo at bigmindmedia dot com>
       Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:17:39 -0800
 22. Reset Polls
       Tom Rule <trule at server.mds.macon.ga dot us>
       Mon, 12 Mar 2001 05:58:14 -0500 (EST)
 23. Webstar & Autoshare
       Bill Catambay <bill.m.catambay at lmco dot com>
       Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:35:34 -0800
 24. Re: Webstar & Autoshare
       "Charles L. Martin" <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
       Thu, 15 Mar 2001 01:46:35 -0500
 25. Re: Webstar & Autoshare
       Bill Catambay <bill.m.catambay at lmco dot com>
       Thu, 15 Mar 2001 07:36:40 -0800
 26. possible: listserv mailinglist AND autoreply?
       Timo Ochmann <timo at bigmindmedia dot com>
       Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:47:06 -0800
 27. Re: Webstar & Autoshare
       "Charles L. Martin" <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
       Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:11:04 -0500
 28. Re: Webstar & Autoshare
       Bill Catambay <bill.m.catambay at lmco dot com>
       Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:02:25 -0800
 29. Re: Small lists are vanishing
       Mark Hartman <mh-list at harthaven dot com>
       Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:47:47 -0800
 30. Re: Small lists are vanishing
       Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
       Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:56:47 -0800
 31. Re: possible: listserv mailinglist AND autoreply?
       Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
       Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:59:48 -0800
 32. Re: Small lists are vanishing
       Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
       Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:59:22 -0800 (PST)
 33. Re: Webstar & Autoshare
       Ford Pedersen <ford at turquoise dot net>
       Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:59:50 -1000
 34. Re: Webstar & Autoshare
       Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
       Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:02:45 -0800 (PST)
 35. Re: Reset Polls
       Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
       Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:58:32 -0800
 36. Error message
       Bill Bedford <billb at mousa.demon.co dot uk>
       Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:59:11 +0000
 37. Re: Error message
       "Serge Belleudy-d'Espinose" <sam at ijm.jussieu dot fr>
       Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:03:39 +0100
 38. Re: Error message
       Mark Hartman <mh-list at harthaven dot com>
       Fri, 16 Mar 2001 05:56:33 -0800
 39. Re: possible: listserv mailinglist AND autoreply?
       Timo Ochmann <timo at bigmindmedia dot com>
       Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:57:18 -0800
 40. Re: Error message
       Bill Bedford <billb at mousa.demon.co dot uk>
       Fri, 16 Mar 2001 18:08:26 +0000
 41. Using Webstar and Autoshare
       Tom Rule <trule at server.mds.macon.ga dot us>
       Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:13:30 -0500 (EST)
 42. Re: possible: listserv mailinglist AND autoreply?
       Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
       Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:21:04 -0800 (PST)
 43. Re: Using Webstar and Autoshare
       bill.m.catambay at lmco dot com (Bill M Catambay)
       Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:22:16 -0800
 44. Re: possible: listserv mailinglist AND autoreply?
       Timo Ochmann <timo at bigmindmedia dot com>
       Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:33:29 -0800
 45. Autoshare vs. OE/Entourage
       Administrator <admin at aladdinsys dot com>
       Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:59:04 -0800
 46. Starting up AS Admin
       Giedo De Snijder <igiedsn at giedsn.eunet dot be>
       Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:10:38 +0100
 47. Re: Starting up AS Admin
       Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
       Sat, 17 Mar 2001 07:52:17 -0800
 48. Mailbacks have suddenly stopped working
       Mark Hartman <mh-list at harthaven dot com>
       Sun, 18 Mar 2001 08:39:37 -0800
 49. Re: Autoshare vs. OE/Entourage
       Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
       Sun, 18 Mar 2001 14:16:54 -0800
 50. Re: Mailbacks have suddenly stopped working
       Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
       Sun, 18 Mar 2001 14:26:52 -0800

Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 06:58:16 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Strip attachments?

At 21:12 -0800 3/1/2001, Mark Hartman wrote:

>What you might want to do is re-implement your script as a folder
>attachment, and point the aliases for EIMS or SIMS to another folder
>than the "Filed Mail" folder.  Have your folder attachment process files
>in that folder one by one, and when done place them into the "Filed Mail"
>folder.

This approach may certainly come in handy at times. It is probably 
easier though to tell AutoShare to let the Filed Mail folder be 
another folder than to update your many mail server accounts, unless 
unknown accounts is turned on.

Subject: Re: Strip attachments?
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 14:02:19 -0500
From: Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>

I know it will make many of us happy if you succeed in stripping 
attachments, and share the PE. Good luck.

On 3/2/01 9:58 AM, Mikael Hansen said:

>At 21:12 -0800 3/1/2001, Mark Hartman wrote:
>
>>What you might want to do is re-implement your script as a folder
>>attachment, and point the aliases for EIMS or SIMS to another folder
>>than the "Filed Mail" folder.  Have your folder attachment process files
>>in that folder one by one, and when done place them into the "Filed Mail"
>>folder.
>
>This approach may certainly come in handy at times. It is probably 
>easier though to tell AutoShare to let the Filed Mail folder be 
>another folder than to update your many mail server accounts, unless 
>unknown accounts is turned on.


Charles L. Martin
clmartin at theOmbudsman dot com
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Judge."
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Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 12:23:10 -0800
From: bill.m.catambay at lmco dot com (Bill M Catambay)
Subject: Re: Strip attachments?

On 2:02 PM -0500 3/2/01, Charles L. Martin is rumored to have said:

>I know it will make many of us happy if you succeed in stripping
>attachments, and share the PE. Good luck.
>

I second that!
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Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:11:09 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Strip attachments?

At 08:21 -0600 2/23/2001, Jeff Folk wrote:

><shrug> I don't know about that, I created submission with the e-mail client
>software most of my list subscribers are using [OE Mac, yes I know...],
>attached a jpeg [Apple-Double encoded], sent it to the list and when the
>distribution came back, the jpeg was shown inline and my footer text
>[unsubscribe info] was not there.

The keyword here is inline. When you drag a JPG file to the body of a 
message that you're composing, Eudora sets the Content-Type to 
multipart/Related, but when you drag a JPG file to the header of a 
message that you're composing (or do Command-H), Eudora sets the 
Content-Type to multipart/mixed. AutoShare doesn't support the former 
(multipart/Related). An interesting thing is that if Eudora sends a 
non-inline JPG, she'll display it as inline at the receiving end 
though.


Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:32:37 -0800
From: "Terry R. Schussler" <terry at trevimedia dot com>
Subject: Dealing with ISP recipient limits

I've been using AutoShare (4.1) for some time.  Recently, without warning
my ISP implemented a mail relay limit of 250 recipients per email (probably
to block spamming customers from sending junk out.)  This caused my mail
server to get a pile of rejection notices to the point where my Filed Mail
folder was over .5GB pretty quickly.

As a result, I have had to temporarily shut down the list.  How can I
configure AutoShare 4.1 or later to batch recipients in list post mailing?
If I can't group the recipients in less than everyone at once amounts, can
I at least cause AutoShare to send them individually?  This would suck, but
it's better than either turning off the list or having ALL of our outbound
mail traffic go directly to recipients instead of relaying them through our
ISP.

I'm using EIMS 2.2.2 if its relevant.

Thanks!

Terry

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Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:53:41 -0800 (PST)
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Dealing with ISP recipient limits

On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Terry R. Schussler wrote:

> As a result, I have had to temporarily shut down the list.  How can I
> configure AutoShare 4.1 or later to batch recipients in list post mailing?
> If I can't group the recipients in less than everyone at once amounts, can
> I at least cause AutoShare to send them individually?  This would suck, but
> it's better than either turning off the list or having ALL of our outbound
> mail traffic go directly to recipients instead of relaying them through our
> ISP.

This topic in various flavors comes around from time to time. I'm hesitant
to add such a split file feature to the main processing, as it can become
both messy and inefficent. The best approach is likely to split the
recipients for a fully processed message file. An AppleScript can do it,
but is not recommended, unless you have an AppleScript command, whose
non-AppleScript code can the hard work. I don't mind creating such a Split
Mail command similar to the Unix Mail command.

Unix Mail: Convert a Unix file of multiple messages to EIMS
           message files
  From Path  string  -- Path of Unix mail file
  [To Path  string]  -- Path of folder, in which to store
                        the EIMS message files

So the Split Mail command would go something like

Split Mail: Split an EIMS message file into multiple EIMS
            message files
  From Path  string  -- Path of EIMS message file
  [To Path  string]  -- Path of folder, in which to store
                        the EIMS message files
  [countIndex  small integer]  -- Number of recipients per
                                  EIMS message file

Let me know.


Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 01:37:38 -0800
From: "Terry R. Schussler" <terry at trevimedia dot com>
Subject: Re: Dealing with ISP recipient limits

At 4:53 PM -0800 3/4/01, Mikael Hansen wrote:
>On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Terry R. Schussler wrote:
>
>> As a result, I have had to temporarily shut down the list.  How can I
>> configure AutoShare 4.1 or later to batch recipients in list post mailing?
>> If I can't group the recipients in less than everyone at once amounts, can
>> I at least cause AutoShare to send them individually?  This would suck, but
>> it's better than either turning off the list or having ALL of our outbound
>> mail traffic go directly to recipients instead of relaying them through our
>> ISP.
>
>This topic in various flavors comes around from time to time. I'm hesitant
>to add such a split file feature to the main processing, as it can become
>both messy and inefficent. The best approach is likely to split the
>recipients for a fully processed message file. An AppleScript can do it,
>but is not recommended, unless you have an AppleScript command, whose
>non-AppleScript code can the hard work. I don't mind creating such a Split
>Mail command similar to the Unix Mail command.
>
>Unix Mail: Convert a Unix file of multiple messages to EIMS
>           message files
>  From Path  string  -- Path of Unix mail file
>  [To Path  string]  -- Path of folder, in which to store
>                        the EIMS message files
>
>So the Split Mail command would go something like
>
>Split Mail: Split an EIMS message file into multiple EIMS
>            message files
>  From Path  string  -- Path of EIMS message file
>  [To Path  string]  -- Path of folder, in which to store
>                        the EIMS message files
>  [countIndex  small integer]  -- Number of recipients per
>                                  EIMS message file
>
>Let me know.

Well, I would truly desire that.  You see, the only remaining alternative
is to have our mail server stop using our ISP as a relay.  This would be a
serious load on our mail server as it would now be directly dealing with
every recipient's mail server (the whole point of why we switched to a
relay approach) and I'm sure that it would add minutes to the time it would
take for an individual email to get sent.

Another wacky thought - an option to have mail split by the first letter of
the recipient's domain.  An a - z model would still limit me to 250 per
letter, but that's enough to address my issue for now.  That's of course a
selfish way to think about it, but I'm just brainstorming.

I just can't think of any other solution.

Thanks for your effort and consideration.

Regards,

Terry

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Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 10:33:55 -0800
From: bill.m.catambay at lmco dot com (Bill M Catambay)
Subject: Re: Dealing with ISP recipient limits

On 12:32 PM -0800 3/4/01, Terry R. Schussler is rumored to have said:

>I've been using AutoShare (4.1) for some time.  Recently, without warning
>my ISP implemented a mail relay limit of 250 recipients per email (probably
>to block spamming customers from sending junk out.)  This caused my mail
>server to get a pile of rejection notices to the point where my Filed Mail
>folder was over .5GB pretty quickly.
>
>As a result, I have had to temporarily shut down the list.  How can I
>configure AutoShare 4.1 or later to batch recipients in list post mailing?
>If I can't group the recipients in less than everyone at once amounts, can
>I at least cause AutoShare to send them individually?  This would suck, but
>it's better than either turning off the list or having ALL of our outbound
>mail traffic go directly to recipients instead of relaying them through our
>ISP.

Switch your ISP!  Those dogs!
-- 
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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:48:35 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Dealing with ISP recipient limits

Okay, I have come up with the Split Mail AppleScript command, which 
takes one EIMS message file with an SMTP envelope recipient of a list 
file and expands it into several EIMS message files, each having a 
given number of SMTP envelope recipients.

You would want to create a scenario where AutoShare's Incoming Mail 
folder path reflects a new folder, let's say it's named Split. Your 
AppleScript can then use the Split Mail command on any file that 
arrives in your Split folder. A Folder Action would be a good way of 
applying your AppleScript, I guess. So while the From Path is the 
Split folder, the To Path can be the Incoming Mail folder.

The Split Mail command is pretty simple too.

tell application "AutoShare"
   Split Mail From Path "disk:Split:file"
              To Path "disk:Incoming Mail"
              countIndex 100
end tell

You are very much encouraged to test this before using it seriously, 
as I have only tested it with a low number of subscribers and in a 
very quiet environment. The biggest thing to watch out for is the 
return value being the number of output files. If it's not zero, it 
reflects the number of files created, and you can likely delete the 
input file. If zero, the input file should likely be moved into the 
Incoming Mail folder.

As there have over the years been a number of requests to have list 
contributions be mailed individually to subscribers, I suppose I'll 
have to add a property some day, so that each subscriber's name can 
be inserted into the respective message.

4.2.2d3 (68K only this time, sorry) has been uploaded.

Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 19:45:55 -0800
From: "Terry R. Schussler" <terry at trevimedia dot com>
Subject: Re: Dealing with ISP recipient limits

At 10:33 AM -0800 3/5/01, Bill M Catambay wrote:
>Switch your ISP!  Those dogs!

Easier said than done.  It's Verio and I don't have many other choices
where I am.  They have a legitimate reason for making the change so it's
hard for me to argue with them.

:-(

Terry

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Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 09:26:46 -0800
From: Bill Catambay <bill.m.catambay at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: Dealing with ISP recipient limits

At 07:45 PM 3/5/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>At 10:33 AM -0800 3/5/01, Bill M Catambay wrote:
> >Switch your ISP!  Those dogs!
>
>Easier said than done.  It's Verio and I don't have many other choices
>where I am.  They have a legitimate reason for making the change so it's
>hard for me to argue with them.



I'm digressing from the list, but there are lots of ways to fight SPAM 
without putting this type of control on limits to sending e-mail.  There 
are a lot of legitimate reasons for sending to lots of people (all those 
Autoshare lists for one), and that alone should have them looking into 
other methods of preventing SPAM-abuse.


Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:09:45 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: AutoShare 4.2.2d3

This is why I use the queued mode in Eudora. After more than three 
months following 4.2.2d2, I uploaded d3(68K) yesterday, and today I 
have uploaded 4.2.2d3 (including the PPC version).

   <http://www.dnai.com/~meh/download/AutoShare/Beta/>

From: Laine Lee <LLee at utsa dot edu>
Subject: AutoShare 4.2.2d3 quits on getting a list in ADMIN
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:33:51 -0600 

I can use the Admin from .2d3 with Autoshare 4.2.2d2 but if I use the d3
version  of Autoshare, selecting a list in the admin makes Autoshare quit
with a type 3 error. Could those new applescript commands in d3 be causing
this problem? 


Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:40:31 -0800 (PST)
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare 4.2.2d3 quits on getting a list in ADMIN

On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Laine Lee wrote:

> I can use the Admin from .2d3 with Autoshare 4.2.2d2 but if I use the d3
> version  of Autoshare, selecting a list in the admin makes Autoshare quit
> with a type 3 error. Could those new applescript commands in d3 be causing
> this problem? 

My mistake. I have uploaded a d4PPC.


Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 18:39:28 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare 4.2.2d3 quits on getting a list in ADMIN

At 12:40 -0800 3/8/2001, Mikael Hansen wrote:

>On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Laine Lee wrote:
>
>>  I can use the Admin from .2d3 with Autoshare 4.2.2d2 but if I use the d3
>>  version  of Autoshare, selecting a list in the admin makes Autoshare quit
>>  with a type 3 error. Could those new applescript commands in d3 be causing
>  > this problem?
>
>My mistake. I have uploaded a d4PPC.

I fixed the rest of this type of error (getting used to Apple's 
latest Universal Interfaces). The full 4.2.2d4 is at

   <http://www.dnai.com/~meh/download/AutoShare/Beta/>

Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:02:55 -0800
Subject: Listserv hick-up
From: Timo Ochmann <timo at bigmindmedia dot com>

hi- 

i am using AS 4.1.1 and it is configured to run multiple listservs for
several domains we host.

recently i ran into an issue, which puzzled me. the status window in AS for
one particular listserv domain showed that a post had been processed for a
mailing list, but nobody on the list received it and the <mailinglist>.m
showed an old date not the same as the one when the post was processed. the
post had been placed by the moderator. the list is a standard subscription
list and is set up with the right moderator email account. the post didn't
bounce. myself and the moderator are subscribers to the list and our
accounts are functional.

on previous occasions, something quite similar had happened. some people
received the post others didn't. although it never happened that all of them
'vanished', either way, of course this a serious problem. why would AS in
this case work so sporadically?

as far as i can tell the post did get processed. the error logs of eims
2.2.2 didn't show any errors.

any idea what might have happened?

thanks
-- 
Timo


Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:26:26 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Listserv hick-up

At 15:02 -0800 3/12/2001, Timo Ochmann wrote:

>recently i ran into an issue, which puzzled me. the status window in AS for
>one particular listserv domain showed that a post had been processed for a
>mailing list, but nobody on the list received it and the <mailinglist>.m
>showed an old date not the same as the one when the post was processed.

I can't say I'm aware of this, but given you're using multiple 
preference sets, do you have a separate folder for list files for 
each preference set?

Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:36:57 -0800
Subject: Re: Listserv hick-up
From: Timo Ochmann <timo at bigmindmedia dot com>

Tschüss
yes!
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> From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
> Reply-To: Subscribers of AutoShare-Talk <autoshare-talk at lists.pensive dot org=
>
> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:26:26 -0800
> To: Subscribers of AutoShare-Talk <autoshare-talk at lists.pensive dot org>
> Subject: Re: Listserv hick-up
> 
> At 15:02 -0800 3/12/2001, Timo Ochmann wrote:
> 
>> recently i ran into an issue, which puzzled me. the status window in AS 
for
>> one particular listserv domain showed that a post had been processed for
 a
>> mailing list, but nobody on the list received it and the <mailinglist>.m
>> showed an old date not the same as the one when the post was processed.
> 
> I can't say I'm aware of this, but given you're using multiple
> preference sets, do you have a separate folder for list files for
> each preference set?


Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:35:12 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Listserv hick-up

At 20:26 -0800 3/12/2001, Mikael Hansen wrote:

>I can't say I'm aware of this, but given you're using multiple 
>preference sets, do you have a separate folder for list files for 
>each preference set?

Come to think of it, each additional preference set uses additional 
memory. If you have left AutoShare's preferred memory size at the 
default, you may want to increase it. When updating <list>.m and 
<list>.d files, AutoShare is optimized to use the memory between what 
is left as an upper limit and a reserve pool as a lower limit; it may 
be that there is little memory available, which shouldn't matter 
though, as processing merely should take longer.

Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:24:17 -0800
From: Mark Hartman <mh-list at harthaven dot com>
Subject: Small lists are vanishing

Hi, all.

Just converted from a very old (3.4?) version of AutoShare to 4.2.1.
All seemed to go swimmingly, but within the past day or so I've had
three of my small (< 100 subscribers) lists vanish; in other words,
AutoShare Admin won't recognize that there are users on the list, and
the x-list.m file in the LS folder went to zero length.

This didn't happen to my larger lists, though I'm worried that it might.

Has anyone else seen this happen?  Is this a conversion issue from older
versions of AutoShare?

Thanks in advance
Mark Hartman



Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:17:39 -0800
Subject: Re: Listserv hick-up
From: Timo Ochmann <timo at bigmindmedia dot com>

thanks for you input ... i increased the memory size to 1024k ... let's see
what happens.

-- 
Timo Ochmann

> From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
> Reply-To: Subscribers of AutoShare-Talk <autoshare-talk at lists.pensive dot org>
> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:35:12 -0800
> To: Subscribers of AutoShare-Talk <autoshare-talk at lists.pensive dot org>
> Subject: Re: Listserv hick-up
> 
> At 20:26 -0800 3/12/2001, Mikael Hansen wrote:
> 
>> I can't say I'm aware of this, but given you're using multiple
>> preference sets, do you have a separate folder for list files for
>> each preference set?
> 
> Come to think of it, each additional preference set uses additional
> memory. If you have left AutoShare's preferred memory size at the
> default, you may want to increase it. When updating <list>.m and
> <list>.d files, AutoShare is optimized to use the memory between what
> is left as an upper limit and a reserve pool as a lower limit; it may
> be that there is little memory available, which shouldn't matter
> though, as processing merely should take longer.


Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 05:58:14 -0500 (EST)
From: Tom Rule <trule at server.mds.macon.ga dot us>
Subject: Reset Polls

how do you reset a Poll?
[i.e. get rid of the previous results to get ready for a new set)

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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:35:34 -0800
From: Bill Catambay <bill.m.catambay at lmco dot com>
Subject: Webstar & Autoshare

Sorry if this has already been discussed, but has anyone setup Webstar with 
Autoshare?  How is it done?

Bill


Subject: Re: Webstar & Autoshare
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 01:46:35 -0500
From: "Charles L. Martin" <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>

What specifically do you mean? I have AS and W* running on the same 
server, and have a list maintenance web page for each list. Is this what 
you mean?

On 3/15/01 12:35 AM, Bill Catambay said:

>Sorry if this has already been discussed, but has anyone setup Webstar wit
h 
>Autoshare?  How is it done?


Charles L. Martin
clmartin at theOmbudsman dot com
http://www.theOmbudsman.com/Martin_Law/
123 N. McDonough St.
Decatur, GA 30030
404-373-3116, FAX 801-881-1246

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King: "Thank you Alice. That¹s what makes me so eminently qualified to be
 
Judge."
Alice in Wonderland, Lewis Carroll


Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 07:36:40 -0800
From: Bill Catambay <bill.m.catambay at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: Webstar & Autoshare

At 01:46 AM 3/15/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>What specifically do you mean? I have AS and W* running on the same
>server, and have a list maintenance web page for each list. Is this what
>you mean?

In EIMS, it was very straightforward because the AS documentation told you 
exactly what to do.  In Webstar, I'm not sure how to specify the three 
accounts.  One is a mailing list, and 2 are files.  That's where my 
uncertainty lays.

Bill
--
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http://demon.lmms.lmco.com/
Lockheed Martin, EIS
mailto:bill.m.catambay at lmco dot com


Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:47:06 -0800
Subject: possible: listserv mailinglist AND autoreply?
From: Timo Ochmann <timo at bigmindmedia dot com>

is it possible to set up a mailing list and have subscribers receive an
auto-reply message when they subscribe?

i looked at the docs and it doesn't seem to be an option!
-- 
Timo


Subject: Re: Webstar & Autoshare
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:11:04 -0500
From: "Charles L. Martin" <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>

I still don't have a clue what you mean. Are you talking about ListStar? 
In that case, I don't know if it will work. If you mean WebStar, it has 
nothing to do with AS or EIMS.

On 3/15/01 10:36 AM, Bill Catambay said:

>At 01:46 AM 3/15/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>>What specifically do you mean? I have AS and W* running on the same
>>server, and have a list maintenance web page for each list. Is this what
>>you mean?
>
>In EIMS, it was very straightforward because the AS documentation told you
 
>exactly what to do.  In Webstar, I'm not sure how to specify the three 
>accounts.  One is a mailing list, and 2 are files.  That's where my 
>uncertainty lays.


Charles L. Martin
clmartin at theOmbudsman dot com
http://www.theOmbudsman.com/Martin_Law/
123 N. McDonough St.
Decatur, GA 30030
404-373-3116, FAX 801-881-1246

Alice: "The King seems so prejudiced."
King: "Thank you Alice. That¹s what makes me so eminently qualified to be
 
Judge."
Alice in Wonderland, Lewis Carroll


Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:02:25 -0800
From: Bill Catambay <bill.m.catambay at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: Webstar & Autoshare

At 10:11 PM 3/15/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>I still don't have a clue what you mean. Are you talking about ListStar?
>In that case, I don't know if it will work. If you mean WebStar, it has
>nothing to do with AS or EIMS.

I'm talking about WebStar.  The latest WebStar is a web, FTP and mail 
server.  That means it supplants EIMS.  Since I am no longer using EIMS, I 
need to setup WebStar like I setup EIMS, but I'm having a hard time 
figuring out exactly how.  It doesn't operate quite like EIMS does.  I was 
hoping someone on this list was using WebStar as their mail server in 
conjunction with Autoshare.

Bill

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http://demon.lmms.lmco.com/
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mailto:bill.m.catambay at lmco dot com


Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:47:47 -0800
From: Mark Hartman <mh-list at harthaven dot com>
Subject: Re: Small lists are vanishing

At 3:24 PM -0800 3/13/01, Mark Hartman wrote:
>Just converted from a very old (3.4?) version of AutoShare to 4.2.1.
>All seemed to go swimmingly, but within the past day or so I've had
>three of my small (< 100 subscribers) lists vanish; in other words,
>AutoShare Admin won't recognize that there are users on the list, and
>the x-list.m file in the LS folder went to zero length.

Well, after reviewing the docs, I figured it out; it was a conflict
between the "standard" and "built-in database" methods of maintaining
the list.



Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:56:47 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Small lists are vanishing

At 15:24 -0800 3/13/2001, Mark Hartman wrote:

>Hi, all.
>
>Just converted from a very old (3.4?) version of AutoShare to 4.2.1.
>All seemed to go swimmingly, but within the past day or so I've had
>three of my small (< 100 subscribers) lists vanish; in other words,
>AutoShare Admin won't recognize that there are users on the list, and
>the x-list.m file in the LS folder went to zero length.
>
>This didn't happen to my larger lists, though I'm worried that it might.

I can't say that I have come across this before, and I cannot offer 
any good suggestion to how it could have happened.

>Has anyone else seen this happen?  Is this a conversion issue from older
>versions of AutoShare?

I don't think so.

Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:59:48 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: possible: listserv mailinglist AND autoreply?

At 16:47 -0800 3/15/2001, Timo Ochmann wrote:

>is it possible to set up a mailing list and have subscribers receive an
>auto-reply message when they subscribe?
>
>i looked at the docs and it doesn't seem to be an option!

I may have misunderstood your question, but the sub file in the 
AutoShare folder inside the Documents folder should reflect the 
return mail's body. The auto-reply mail is sent by default.

Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:59:22 -0800 (PST)
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Small lists are vanishing

On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Mark Hartman wrote:

> Well, after reviewing the docs, I figured it out; it was a conflict
> between the "standard" and "built-in database" methods of maintaining
> the list.

You beat us to it :-)


Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:59:50 -1000
From: Ford Pedersen <ford at turquoise dot net>
Subject: Re: Webstar & Autoshare

>At 10:11 PM 3/15/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>>I still don't have a clue what you mean. Are you talking about ListStar?
>>In that case, I don't know if it will work. If you mean WebStar, it has
>>nothing to do with AS or EIMS.
>
>I'm talking about WebStar.  The latest WebStar is a web, FTP and 
>mail server.  That means it supplants EIMS.  Since I am no longer 
>using EIMS, I need to setup WebStar like I setup EIMS, but I'm 
>having a hard time figuring out exactly how.  It doesn't operate 
>quite like EIMS does.  I was hoping someone on this list was using 
>WebStar as their mail server in conjunction with Autoshare.

IMHO, stick with either EIMS or SIMS. I was using the WebSTAR Mail 
plug-in months ago and when I switched to SIMS, voila 14MB RAM freed 
up and faster email processing.

Ford
-- 
_________________________________________________
Ford Pedersen
808 325-1614            mailto:ford at turquoise dot net

Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:02:45 -0800 (PST)
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Webstar & Autoshare

On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Charles L. Martin wrote:

> I still don't have a clue what you mean. Are you talking about ListStar? 
> In that case, I don't know if it will work. If you mean WebStar, it has 
> nothing to do with AS or EIMS.

I think Bill is talking about the mail server module that was added to
WebSTAR at some point. I don't think it comes "save as" and mailing list
features like we know them from EIMS and SIMS.


Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:58:32 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Reset Polls

At 05:58 -0500 3/12/2001, Tom Rule wrote:

>how do you reset a Poll?
>[i.e. get rid of the previous results to get ready for a new set)

I believe that simply deleting the document's resource fork does it.

Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:59:11 +0000
From: Bill Bedford <billb at mousa.demon.co dot uk>
Subject: Error message

Can anyone explain this error message to me?

>
>     ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
>  <niallrferguson at cs dot com>
>
>     ----- Transcript of session follows -----
>  ... while talking to air-za04.mail.aol.com.:
>  >>> RCPT To:<niallrferguson at cs dot com>
>  <<< 550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND
>  550 <niallrferguson at cs dot com>... User unknown
>
>  --FAA08304.984737601/rly-za02.mx.aol.com
>  Content-Type: message/delivery-status
>
>  Reporting-MTA: dns; rly-za02.mx.aol.com
>  Arrival-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 05:13:20 -0500 (EST)
>
>  Final-Recipient: RFC822; niallrferguson at cs dot com
>  Action: failed
>  Status: 5.1.1
>  Remote-MTA: DNS; air-za04.mail.aol.com
>  Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND
>  Last-Attempt-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 05:13:21 -0500 (EST)
>

The address in the autoshare list is NiallFerguson at compuserve dot com so 
how come AOL is handling an address that should have gone to 
Compuserve?

-- 
Bill Bedford

You did something because it had always been done, and the explanation
was "but we've always done it this way."  A million dead people can't
have been wrong, can they?

Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:03:39 +0100
From: "Serge Belleudy-d'Espinose" <sam at ijm.jussieu dot fr>
Subject: Re: Error message

At 10:59 +0000 16/03/01, Bill Bedford wrote:

>The address in the autoshare list is NiallFerguson at compuserve dot com so how come AOL is handling an address that should have gone to Compuserve?

Maybe NiallFerguson at compuserve dot com set its account to forward to an AOL address?


Serge
--
 \\//\//\//   Serge Belleudy-d'Espinose    Institut Jacques Monod
  // // //    http://www.ijm.jussieu.fr/   Univ. Jussieu - Paris
 //\//\//\\

Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 05:56:33 -0800
From: Mark Hartman <mh-list at harthaven dot com>
Subject: Re: Error message

At 3:03 AM -0800 3/16/01, Serge Belleudy-d'Espinose wrote:
>At 10:59 +0000 16/03/01, Bill Bedford wrote:
>
>>The address in the autoshare list is NiallFerguson at compuserve dot com so how
>>come AOL is handling an address that should have gone to Compuserve?
>
>Maybe NiallFerguson at compuserve dot com set its account to forward to an AOL
>address?

Or perhaps it's simply because AOL bought Compuserve quite a while ago,
and has merged some of the operations?



Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:57:18 -0800
Subject: Re: possible: listserv mailinglist AND autoreply?
From: Timo Ochmann <timo at bigmindmedia dot com>

ah, yes ... my question was incomplete ... i am aware of the 'Sub' file ...
but is it possible to set up individual 'Sub' files for different mailing
lists that are part of the same domain.

so that a subscriber to mailing list 'announce at domain dot com' would receive a
different auto reply than a subscriber to mailing list 'sales at domain dot com'.
-- 
Timo

> From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
> Reply-To: Subscribers of AutoShare-Talk <AutoShare-Talk at lists.pensive dot org>
> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:59:48 -0800
> To: Subscribers of AutoShare-Talk <AutoShare-Talk at lists.pensive dot org>
> Subject: Re: possible: listserv mailinglist AND autoreply?
> 
> At 16:47 -0800 3/15/2001, Timo Ochmann wrote:
> 
>> is it possible to set up a mailing list and have subscribers receive an
>> auto-reply message when they subscribe?
>> 
>> i looked at the docs and it doesn't seem to be an option!
> 
> I may have misunderstood your question, but the sub file in the
> AutoShare folder inside the Documents folder should reflect the
> return mail's body. The auto-reply mail is sent by default.


Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 18:08:26 +0000
From: Bill Bedford <billb at mousa.demon.co dot uk>
Subject: Re: Error message

At 5:56 am -0800 16/03/01, Mark Hartman wrote:

>At 3:03 AM -0800 3/16/01, Serge Belleudy-d'Espinose wrote:
>>At 10:59 +0000 16/03/01, Bill Bedford wrote:
>>
>>>The address in the autoshare list is NiallFerguson at compuserve dot com so how
>>>come AOL is handling an address that should have gone to Compuserve?
>>
>>Maybe NiallFerguson at compuserve dot com set its account to forward to an AOL
>>address?
>
>Or perhaps it's simply because AOL bought Compuserve quite a while ago,
>and has merged some of the operations?



That will be it, Thanks

-- 
Bill Bedford

You did something because it had always been done, and the explanation
was "but we've always done it this way."  A million dead people can't
have been wrong, can they?

Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:13:30 -0500 (EST)
From: Tom Rule <trule at server.mds.macon.ga dot us>
Subject: Using Webstar and Autoshare

I don't think this would work. Webstar stores messages in a completely
different way than EIMS, so Autoshare wouldn't work.

I'm on the Webstar-talk list, and there have been numerous problems with
the mail plugin. The latest version fixes most of the problems (4.3, I
think) - but you can't use Autoshare with it.

You could probably turn mail off in Webstar, and run webstar, eims, and
autoshare on the same machine (well, if it was fast enough and you didn't
get that much traffic).

I'm running eims, autoshare, and machttp (predecessor to webstar) on an
LCIII and it runs ok.


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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:21:04 -0800 (PST)
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: possible: listserv mailinglist AND autoreply?

On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Timo Ochmann wrote:

> ah, yes ... my question was incomplete ... i am aware of the 'Sub' file ...
> but is it possible to set up individual 'Sub' files for different mailing
> lists that are part of the same domain.
> 
> so that a subscriber to mailing list 'announce at domain dot com' would receive a
> different auto reply than a subscriber to mailing list 'sales at domain dot com'.

Yes, you can replace the sub file with a sub folder and put both a Default
file and list-specific files (file names are named after lists) inside
this folder.


Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:22:16 -0800
From: bill.m.catambay at lmco dot com (Bill M Catambay)
Subject: Re: Using Webstar and Autoshare

On 1:13 PM -0500 3/16/01, Tom Rule is rumored to have said:

>I don't think this would work. Webstar stores messages in a completely
>different way than EIMS, so Autoshare wouldn't work.
>
>I'm on the Webstar-talk list, and there have been numerous problems with
>the mail plugin. The latest version fixes most of the problems (4.3, I
>think) - but you can't use Autoshare with it.
>
>You could probably turn mail off in Webstar, and run webstar, eims, and
>autoshare on the same machine (well, if it was fast enough and you didn't
>get that much traffic).
>

That's what I'm doing now.  Thanks for the response.  I won't spend 
any more time trying to make it work.

Bill
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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:33:29 -0800
Subject: Re: possible: listserv mailinglist AND autoreply?
From: Timo Ochmann <timo at bigmindmedia dot com>

very sweet! ... merci
-- 
Timo

> From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
> Reply-To: Subscribers of AutoShare-Talk <AutoShare-Talk at lists.pensive dot org>
> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:21:04 -0800 (PST)
> To: Subscribers of AutoShare-Talk <AutoShare-Talk at lists.pensive dot org>
> Subject: Re: possible: listserv mailinglist AND autoreply?
> 
> On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Timo Ochmann wrote:
> 
>> ah, yes ... my question was incomplete ... i am aware of the 'Sub' file ...
>> but is it possible to set up individual 'Sub' files for different mailing
>> lists that are part of the same domain.
>> 
>> so that a subscriber to mailing list 'announce at domain dot com' would receive a
>> different auto reply than a subscriber to mailing list 'sales at domain dot com'.
> 
> Yes, you can replace the sub file with a sub folder and put both a Default
> file and list-specific files (file names are named after lists) inside
> this folder.
> 


Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:59:04 -0800
From: Administrator <admin at aladdinsys dot com>
Subject: Autoshare vs. OE/Entourage

Hello there,

I sent this message to Mikael Hansen, AutoShare's author recently, 
but didn't receive a response yet. I just discovered these lists, so 
I thought I would post here for some help as well.

The problem we have is appearing in Outlook Express/Entourage 
clients. Autoshare is sending a response, but these Microsoft mail 
clients are showing a blank message. I found that if you view the 
source of the message in these client applications, the contents of 
the auto-responder are all there. What can I put in the headers of 
the message so OE/Entourage will show the text properly?

I tried creating a copy of the message in Entourage, then copying the 
source of that file and pasting into the responder's text file, but 
that failed miserably. The copy of that message is at the very bottom 
of this email...

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Please cc: me directly 
when you respond to the list...

Thanks!

--Eric Kopf


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  Support Request Form that will prompt you for the information we will need 
to help resolve any issues you may be experiencing.<BR>
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f your problem deals with installing an Aladdin Product other than Installer
Maker or the StuffIt Engine SDK, please use the above URL for support.<BR>
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ion to what we have determined is an average memory requirement for installe
rs; however, if your installer installs a large number of items, large files
, has banners and/or sounds, large or deep start-up pictures, you may need t
o increase the memory partition of your installer. To do this:<BR>
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  installer, that file may be damaged. To verify this, open the installer arc
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ut damaged files is replace them with a known good copy.<BR>
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older versions. So one thing to try if your installer is acting strange is:<
BR>
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le menu.<BR>
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te&#8221; and save the new archive template<BR>
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ou want to keep the packages, select &#8220;Yes&#8221;<BR>
f) This &#8220;Template&#8221; is now an exact copy of your archive but wit
h a fresh set of file links.<BR>
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tform. &nbsp;Though other platforms are planned, we don&#8217;t currently ha
ve a time line for support for other platforms.<BR>
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Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:10:38 +0100
From: Giedo De Snijder <igiedsn at giedsn.eunet dot be>
Subject: Starting up AS Admin

Hi,

I am running AutoShare 4.2.1 and AuoShare Admin 4.2.1 on MacOS 8.5.1(US)
When I am starting up AS Admin I get the error:
"An error occurred while executing the script of current application
A resource wasn't found (-192)"

I click OK and select Configuration > Where > Local
I select the AutoShare application
I get automatically the "Where" window again and have to reselect the 
AutoShare application.
After this procedure I can use the Admin application.

What do you think about this behaviour in general and the script 
error (A resource wasn't found (-192) in particular ?
TIA,
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Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 07:52:17 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Starting up AS Admin

At 13:10 +0100 3/17/2001, Giedo De Snijder wrote:

>I am running AutoShare 4.2.1 and AuoShare Admin 4.2.1 on MacOS 8.5.1(US)
>When I am starting up AS Admin I get the error:
>"An error occurred while executing the script of current application
>A resource wasn't found (-192)"

Get the 4.2.2 beta, which attends to this.

Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 08:39:37 -0800
From: Mark Hartman <mh-list at harthaven dot com>
Subject: Mailbacks have suddenly stopped working

Running 4.2.2d4.

Yesterday, mailbacks seemed to be working OK.  I don't remember doing
anything to the lists, but suddenly mailbacks are broken.

I've had the "j" in the Misc Stuff field forever so that confirmation
codes are picked up from the subject line, even though commands are
found in the body of the message.  Now, for some reason, AutoShare is
ignoring command codes in the subject and only checking the body of the
message.  Needless to say, this is causing great consternation and
making my subscription instructions useless.

I've checked the documentation, and everything seems to me to be set up
correctly, so please don't hesitate to suggest simple things; I'm ready
to believe that I'm not seeing things that are right in front of my face.



Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 14:16:54 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Autoshare vs. OE/Entourage

At 14:59 -0800 3/16/2001, Administrator wrote:

>The problem we have is appearing in Outlook Express/Entourage 
>clients. Autoshare is sending a response, but these Microsoft mail 
>clients are showing a blank message. I found that if you view the 
>source of the message in these client applications, the contents of 
>the auto-responder are all there. What can I put in the headers of 
>the message so OE/Entourage will show the text properly?
>
>I tried creating a copy of the message in Entourage, then copying 
>the source of that file and pasting into the responder's text file, 
>but that failed miserably. The copy of that message is at the very 
>bottom of this email...

I suggest that you set up a test folder and create a save as mail 
account to point to it, then send a message using Entourage to this 
account. Once the message file has arrived in the test folder, 
StuffIt the file and send it to me off the list, so that I can take a 
look at it.

Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 14:26:52 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Mailbacks have suddenly stopped working

At 08:39 -0800 3/18/2001, Mark Hartman wrote:

>Now, for some reason, AutoShare is ignoring command codes in the 
>subject and only checking the body of the message.

Are you saying that mail-backs are not created, or is it that they 
are not released once the confirmation is sent?

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