The AutoShare-Talk list archive ending on 25 Apr 2001
Topics covered in this issue include:
1. RE: mailing lists for dummies
Erik Ness <erikness at tds dot net>
Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:04:26 -0500
2. RE: mailing lists for dummies
Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
10 Apr 01 11:32:18 -0500
3. Autoshare stop accepting events
Michael Vinca <sanctimonious at mac dot com>
Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:40:00 -0400
4. RE: mailing lists for dummies
Brian McEwen <bmcewen at cowboy dot net>
Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:54:33 -0500 (CDT)
5. RE: mailing lists for dummies
Mark Hartman <mh-list at harthaven dot com>
Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:21:47 -0700
6. Re: Autoshare stop accepting events
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:40:34 -0700
7. Re: Autoshare stop accepting events
Michael Vinca <sanctimonious at mac dot com>
Tue, 10 Apr 2001 16:05:59 -0400
8. Threaded archives for AS?
Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
Wed, 11 Apr 2001 16:34:07 -0400
9. Re: Autoshare stop accepting events
Michael Vinca <sanctimonious at mac dot com>
Wed, 11 Apr 2001 20:05:20 -0400
10. Re: Autoshare stop accepting events
Michael Vinca <sanctimonious at mac dot com>
Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:16:45 -0400
11. Re: Autoshare stop accepting events
Michael Vinca <sanctimonious at mac dot com>
Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:35:54 -0400
12. Re: Autoshare stop accepting events
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:50:09 -0700 (PDT)
13. Re: Autoshare stop accepting events
Michael Vinca <sanctimonious at mac dot com>
Thu, 12 Apr 2001 13:07:27 -0400
14. Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 13 Apr 2001
"Michael J. Vinca" <MJV2411 at ritvax.isc.rit dot edu>
Fri, 13 Apr 2001 12:22:28 -0400 (EDT)
15. Re: Autoshare stop accepting events
Terry Allen <hmag at ozemail.com dot au>
Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:21:53 +1000
16. Web archive modifications
Vince <vince at wino dot com>
Sun, 15 Apr 2001 20:17:41 -0700
17. Vacation account and MailBack
Giedo De Snijder <igiedsn at giedsn.eunet dot be>
Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:32:18 +0200
18. Running a poll account in 2 different @preference sets
Giedo De Snijder <igiedsn at giedsn.eunet dot be>
Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:45:48 +0200
19. Re: Running a poll account in 2 different @preference sets
Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:07:29 -0400
20. Re: Running a poll account in 2 different @preference sets
Giedo De Snijder <igiedsn at giedsn.eunet dot be>
Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:33:03 +0200
21. Re: Running a poll account in 2 different @preference sets
Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:36:14 -0400
22. Re: Web archive modifications
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:25:44 -0700
23. Re: Running a poll account in 2 different @preference sets
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:28:03 -0700
24. Even more confused
Michael Vinca <sanctimonious at mac dot com>
Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:01:37 -0400
25. Re: Running a poll account in 2 different @preference sets
Giedo De Snijder <igiedsn at giedsn.eunet dot be>
Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:59:09 +0200
26. Re: Running a poll account in 2 different @preference sets
Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:21:02 -0400
27. Re: Running a poll account in 2 different @preference sets
Giedo De Snijder <igiedsn at giedsn.eunet dot be>
Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:57:47 +0200
28. Re: Running a poll account in 2 different @preference sets
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:11:55 -0700 (PDT)
29. Admin Commands go to the Mail Back folder
Detlef Beyer <d.beyer at crash dot de>
Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:50:45 +0200
30. Re: Admin Commands go to the Mail Back folder
Michael Vinca <sanctimonious at mac dot com>
Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:59:46 -0400
31. Re: Admin Commands go to the Mail Back folder
Bill Bedford <billb at mousa.demon.co dot uk>
Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:01:34 +0100
32. Re: Admin Commands go to the Mail Back folder
Detlef Beyer <d.beyer at crash dot de>
Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:10:53 +0200
33. Poll problem maybe solved ;-)
Giedo De Snijder <igiedsn at giedsn.eunet dot be>
Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:43:29 +0200
34. Re: Poll problem maybe solved ;-)
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:21:32 -0700 (PDT)
35. Re: Admin Commands go to the Mail Back folder
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:52:53 -0700
36. Re: Poll problem maybe solved ;-)
Giedo De Snijder <igiedsn at giedsn.eunet dot be>
Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:13:27 +0200
37. Re: Admin Commands go to the Mail Back folder
Michael Vinca <sanctimonious at mac dot com>
Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:17:17 -0400
38. Re: Poll problem maybe solved ;-)
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:23:42 -0700
39. AutoShare 4.2.3d1
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:25:05 -0700
40. Re: Admin Commands go to the Mail Back folder
Michael Vinca <sanctimonious at mac dot com>
Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:17:49 -0400
41. Re: Poll problem maybe solved ;-)
Giedo De Snijder <igiedsn at giedsn.eunet dot be>
Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:56:40 +0200
42. Re: AutoShare 4.2.3d1
Detlef Beyer <d.beyer at crash dot de>
Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:20:49 +0200
43. Avoiding UNSUB in private lists
Giedo De Snijder <igiedsn at giedsn.eunet dot be>
Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:00:46 +0200
44. Re: Avoiding UNSUB in private lists
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Thu, 19 Apr 2001 04:14:25 -0700
45. Re: Poll problem maybe solved ;-)
Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:44:32 -0400
46. Re: Web archive modifications
Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Fri, 20 Apr 2001 23:58:57 -0700
47. Autoshare and OS X ... ?
mark malowany <mark.malowany at ulec.cius.ualberta dot ca>
Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:12:52 -0600
48. Re: Autoshare and OS X ... ?
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Tue, 24 Apr 2001 07:28:16 -0700
49. strange AutoShare behavior
Michael Swan <swan at neon dot com>
Tue, 24 Apr 2001 13:13:10 -0700
50. Auto-Reply to: AutoShare-Talk digest 25 Apr 20
ray at degroat dot com
Wed, 25 Apr 2001 00:02:13 -0700
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:04:26 -0500
From: Erik Ness <erikness at tds dot net>
Subject: RE: mailing lists for dummies
At 10:46 AM -0500 4/10/01, Chuck Boody wrote:
>free version of EIMS
Where do I find this? I only found for-sale versions....
Cheers,
Erik
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Date: 10 Apr 01 11:32:18 -0500
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: RE: mailing lists for dummies
Reply to: RE: mailing lists for dummies
http://mactcp.org.nz/
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Erik Ness wrote:
>At 10:46 AM -0500 4/10/01, Chuck Boody wrote:
>>free version of EIMS
>
>Where do I find this? I only found for-sale versions....
>
>Cheers,
>
>Erik
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Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:40:00 -0400
From: Michael Vinca <sanctimonious at mac dot com>
Subject: Autoshare stop accepting events
My Autoshare (4.2.1) when launched, processes log files (if needed) and then
stop accepting events. This includes the quit event. Does anyone have any
ideas? I know this isn't enough information, but if someone could tell me
where to start looking, I can give more information.
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Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:54:33 -0500 (CDT)
From: Brian McEwen <bmcewen at cowboy dot net>
Subject: RE: mailing lists for dummies
On 10 Apr 2001, Chuck Boody wrote:
> >>free version of EIMS
> >
> >Where do I find this? I only found for-sale versions....
> >
> >Cheers,
It's really old, really a spammers delight as there are many relay
security holes, just "don't do" the freebie version would be my
recommendation.
It's on their ftp site (or was) even if they don't reference it in HTML
anymore.
SIMS from www.stalker.com is a great free secure SMTPd.
B
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:21:47 -0700
From: Mark Hartman <mh-list at harthaven dot com>
Subject: RE: mailing lists for dummies
Many people prefer SIMS over EIMS for use with AutoShare; you can find
SIMS at <http://www.stalker.com>.
If you'd like a quick step-by-step method of setting up SIMS and AutoShare
to work together, go to <http://www.mymacguy.com> and select "Technical
Information" from the sidebar.
At 9:04 AM -0700 4/10/01, Erik Ness wrote:
>At 10:46 AM -0500 4/10/01, Chuck Boody wrote:
>>free version of EIMS
>
>Where do I find this? I only found for-sale versions....
>
>Cheers,
>
>Erik
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Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:40:34 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Autoshare stop accepting events
At 12:40 -0400 4/10/2001, Michael Vinca wrote:
>My Autoshare (4.2.1) when launched, processes log files (if needed) and then
>stop accepting events. This includes the quit event.
Is the clock display (the Finder's system clock or AutoShare's status
window) being updated at this time?
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 16:05:59 -0400
From: Michael Vinca <sanctimonious at mac dot com>
Subject: Re: Autoshare stop accepting events
Yes, both continue counting. I can select menus in Autoshare, but nothing
results. (Mainly Quit doesn't do anything). But I can choose it ad it
blinks and disappears.
> From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
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> Subject: Re: Autoshare stop accepting events
>
>
> Is the clock display (the Finder's system clock or AutoShare's status
> window) being updated at this time?
Subject: Threaded archives for AS?
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 16:34:07 -0400
From: Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
Is there any software available to permit AutoShare archives to be
threaded?
Charles L. Martin
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 20:05:20 -0400
From: Michael Vinca <sanctimonious at mac dot com>
Subject: Re: Autoshare stop accepting events
The only change I can think off that cause Autoshare to stop working was by
placing two alias in the "Launch" Folder. These alias were both to applets.
The Launch folder did not exist in Preferences:Autoshar: so I had to create
it.
However, I have since removed the Launch folder in trying to troubleshoot
and Autoshare still has the problem.
> From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
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> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:40:34 -0700
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> Subject: Re: Autoshare stop accepting events
>
> At 12:40 -0400 4/10/2001, Michael Vinca wrote:
>
>> My Autoshare (4.2.1) when launched, processes log files (if needed) and then
>> stop accepting events. This includes the quit event.
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:16:45 -0400
From: Michael Vinca <sanctimonious at mac dot com>
Subject: Re: Autoshare stop accepting events
So I'm thinking to myself, Autoshare has to be doing something, that is the
only reason why it won't do anything else...
My Test...
Copy the Autoshare Preferences folder to another computer.
Download Autoshare 4.2.2 to the other computer.
Mount the volume of the original computer via Appleshare/IP.
Launch Autoshare.
-->Settings initialize
-->Message "Last file processed: Log files"
Then nothing in the (now growing) Mail Back folder is touched. BUT, I can
now see the little arrows in the upper left hand corner of the screen, so
Autoshare is trying to do something! What it is, I don't know, and 30
minutes have passed since it started trying.
Now, the log files are "processed" but they never make it to the
listmaster's Inbox...
Anyone have any ideas on what Autoshare may be trying to do? Is it possible
it is stuck trying to deliver the log to the Incoming Mail Folder? (I don't
know why this would happen)
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. I can try anything people suggest,
because right now, we are just not functional.
Mike Vinca
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:35:54 -0400
From: Michael Vinca <sanctimonious at mac dot com>
Subject: Re: Autoshare stop accepting events
Using a list open files utility, it seems Autoshare has "student" open,
which is one of our lists. Visual inspection of the file doesn't show any
problems. The file is not our largest and has only about 1000 subscribers.
Autoshare has now been running for a few hours trying to do something to
this file (at least I'm assuming it is trying to do something...)
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:50:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Autoshare stop accepting events
On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Michael Vinca wrote:
> Using a list open files utility, it seems Autoshare has "student" open,
> which is one of our lists. Visual inspection of the file doesn't show any
> problems. The file is not our largest and has only about 1000 subscribers.
You may have run into a corrupt preferences file (I trust Norton shows no
errors). What happens if you shut down AutoShare, rename the AutoShare
Preferences file and restart AutoShare? If okay, I suggest you take it
from there and continue rebuilding it.
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 13:07:27 -0400
From: Michael Vinca <sanctimonious at mac dot com>
Subject: Re: Autoshare stop accepting events
I tried clearing out the preference file, (but not the folder) and Autoshare
still became unresponsive.
Now that I had found the file "student" was open, I looked through it and
found one subscribers that didn't have a ..##). I opened the file, made the
change, copied all subscribers, pasted them into a new file, and then saved
a new file named "student". (After making a backup of the old). I did this
in case there were any weird invisible characters in the file.
I relaunched Autoshare and it worked! Out of curiosity, I wondered which
change made it work, adding the numbers, or possibly loosing blank
characters, so I copied the original file back to try it again one step at a
time.
After copying the original file back, I launched Autoshare. It was working!
So I am currently back to my original text file AND my original preferences
and now I am working. I am happy, but quite confused.
This is currently a new system, a G4 with OS 9.1. Maybe there was something
buggy with the file system? I guess I should have tried rebuilding the
desktop, for some reason I never thought of that...
I didn't run Norton, because we don't own it. I have been dissatisfied with
it over the last couple of years. When in a jam, we have the computer
people at RIT run DiskWarrior. It has proven much better for them and us.
But I didn't do that this time either. I guess I didn't fell I was at that
point yet, with a machine only about a month old.
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> From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
> Reply-To: Subscribers of AutoShare-Talk <autoshare-talk at lists.pensive dot org>
> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:50:09 -0700 (PDT)
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> Subject: Re: Autoshare stop accepting events
>
> You may have run into a corrupt preferences file (I trust Norton shows no
> errors). What happens if you shut down AutoShare, rename the AutoShare
> Preferences file and restart AutoShare? If okay, I suggest you take it
> from there and continue rebuilding it.
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 12:22:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Michael J. Vinca" <MJV2411 at ritvax.isc.rit dot edu>
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 13 Apr 2001
Hmmm, looks like I spoke too soon. I am now having this weird behavior... I
send messages to autoshare at newman.rit dot edu that don't have any good information
in them (just the word "test" or something). I should get the list of
available commands, but I just get a file placed in Filed Mail, then Autoshare
processes it, and places an identical file in Mail Back. Then Autoshare is
done. It never puts anything into the Incoming Mail Folder.
I am starting with a whole new set of preferences. I used the Autoshare Admin,
choose where Autoshare was, and started in the Preferences menu.
Name of Listserver: Newman Parish Listserver
Address of the bounce account: bounce at newman.rit dot edu
Name of the bounce account: Newman Parish Listserver Maintainence
Format: Both
Default Creator: R*ch
Everything else stays the default.
More Misc.
Unchecked Hide Window
Added bf to Misc Stuff
Folders
...I'm pretty sure I have these right, but the gist is...
"Macintosh HD:Documents:Server Data:(FolderName):" and "MAcintosh HD:System
Folder:Mail Folder:Incoming Mail:"
Same with More Folders... I only do the first three
Configuration->Lists->
->List
email: listmaster at newman.rit dot edu
Name: Newman Parish Listmaster
Web Path: "Macintosh HD:Documents:Web Pages:Lists:"
Review: Supress Names
Messages: 10
Lines: 1000
Remote Password: (password)
->More List
Post: No
->Yet More List
Hard Unsubscribe: No
And then I run autoshare, and e-mails to autoshare at newman.rit dot edu get moved
from the Filed Mail folder to the Mail Back folder and sit there.
:-(
Mike
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:21:53 +1000
From: Terry Allen <hmag at ozemail.com dot au>
Subject: Re: Autoshare stop accepting events
>This is currently a new system, a G4 with OS 9.1. Maybe there was something
>buggy with the file system? I guess I should have tried rebuilding the
>desktop, for some reason I never thought of that...
>
>I didn't run Norton, because we don't own it. I have been dissatisfied with
>it over the last couple of years. When in a jam, we have the computer
>people at RIT run DiskWarrior. It has proven much better for them and us.
>But I didn't do that this time either. I guess I didn't fell I was at that
>point yet, with a machine only about a month old.
>--
Hi again,
Very interesting you menton a new machine. Currently on Tenon's
WebTen (web server) mailing list, discussions about crashing are plentiful
on these newer machines. Along with quite a few other people, I think there
is a firmware problem that hasn't been identified. Many of the crashes are
type 2 errors, but off list wiht numerous people, I've discussed quite a
variety of slightly corrupted files. Not preferences or applications, but
data files from a number of applications. A lot of the people I've spoken
with have reformatted their drives with FWB Hard Disk Tool Kit, so maybe
something with the latest hard disk drivers that's installed with mac OS
9.1 is playing havoc with the filesystem. A guess, but a distinct
possibility.
Bye for now, Terry Allen
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Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 20:17:41 -0700
From: Vince <vince at wino dot com>
Subject: Web archive modifications
Is it possible to edit the web archives? I guess my question is this.
Where does Autoshare store the old list mail that it builds the web
archives from. I have Autoshare configured to save the html list
archives in a folder in my webstar folder, it does this fine, the
file in the Autoshare:auto:archives does not seem to be used anymore.
If I edit the current.html file to remove some messages, the next
time anyone posts to the list it rebuilds the entire file again with
the deleted messages, so obviously there is another record of the
archive being stored somewhere?
Where is it, and can I manually edit it.
OK I rolled the archives over and then edited the html file. I still
would like to know if I can access and modify the current archives.
One more thing. I have had problems posting to a list while sending
from Eudora with Xtnd transmit turned on. It comes through with a
different from:address at least as far as EIMS is concerned. Then the
message gets returned with the "you can't post cuz you are not
subscribed" message. Some ISP's are blocking port25 for outgoing
SMTP, so I have been using extend transmit to get out and send mail.
Thanks,
Vince
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:32:18 +0200
From: Giedo De Snijder <igiedsn at giedsn.eunet dot be>
Subject: Vacation account and MailBack
Hi,
Anyone who experience problems with the vacation account with Mail
Back enabled in AS 4.2 till AS 4.2.2b1?
Problem:
The reply to the Mail Back message doesn't release the mail from the
Hold Mail folder to the Filed Mail folder.
TIA?
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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:45:48 +0200
From: Giedo De Snijder <igiedsn at giedsn.eunet dot be>
Subject: Running a poll account in 2 different @preference sets
Hi,
Anyone running a poll account in 2 different domains (@preference
sets) at the same time ?
If yes, do you also get the problem AS only recognizing one poll,
sending the same poll status to both accounts ?
TIA,
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Subject: Re: Running a poll account in 2 different @preference sets
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:07:29 -0400
From: Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
I've never used AS to run a poll, but I do recall from the EIMS
documentation that it does not maintain accounts for each domain served,
but a single account for all domains. So, if you have Poll at dom1 dot com and
Poll at dom2 dot com, mail to both would be treated exactly the same by EIMS. I
don't know if this answers your question, but I thought it was relevant.
On 4/16/01 8:45 AM, Giedo De Snijder said:
>Hi,
>
>Anyone running a poll account in 2 different domains (@preference
>sets) at the same time ?
>If yes, do you also get the problem AS only recognizing one poll,
>sending the same poll status to both accounts ?
>TIA,
>--
>
>Giedo De Snijder
Charles L. Martin
clmartin at theOmbudsman dot com
http://www.theOmbudsman.com/Martin_Law/
123 N. McDonough St.
Decatur, GA 30030
404-373-3116, FAX 801-881-1246
Alice: "The King seems so prejudiced."
King: "Thank you Alice. That¹s what makes me so eminently qualified to be
Judge."
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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:33:03 +0200
From: Giedo De Snijder <igiedsn at giedsn.eunet dot be>
Subject: Re: Running a poll account in 2 different @preference sets
>I've never used AS to run a poll, but I do recall from the EIMS
>documentation that it does not maintain accounts for each domain served,
>but a single account for all domains. So, if you have Poll at dom1 dot com and
>Poll at dom2 dot com, mail to both would be treated exactly the same by EIMS. I
>don't know if this answers your question, but I thought it was relevant.
Thank you.
Why didn't I hear about this earlier ????
>
>On 4/16/01 8:45 AM, Giedo De Snijder said:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Anyone running a poll account in 2 different domains (@preference
>>sets) at the same time ?
>>If yes, do you also get the problem AS only recognizing one poll,
>>sending the same poll status to both accounts ?
> >TIA,
Subject: Re: Running a poll account in 2 different @preference sets
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:36:14 -0400
From: Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
Maybe because Mikael didn't write EIMS, and doesn't support it
(officially, at least). If you read the documentation at
www.fredonia.com/pism/chapt04/chapt04/html#12, it is pretty clear.
On 4/16/01 1:33 PM, Giedo De Snijder said:
>>I've never used AS to run a poll, but I do recall from the EIMS
>>documentation that it does not maintain accounts for each domain served,
>>but a single account for all domains. So, if you have Poll at dom1 dot com and
>>Poll at dom2 dot com, mail to both would be treated exactly the same by EIMS. I
>>don't know if this answers your question, but I thought it was relevant.
>
>Thank you.
>Why didn't I hear about this earlier ????
Charles L. Martin
clmartin at theOmbudsman dot com
http://www.theOmbudsman.com/Martin_Law/
123 N. McDonough St.
Decatur, GA 30030
404-373-3116, FAX 801-881-1246
Alice: "The King seems so prejudiced."
King: "Thank you Alice. That¹s what makes me so eminently qualified to be
Judge."
Alice in Wonderland, Lewis Carroll
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:25:44 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Web archive modifications
At 20:17 -0700 4/15/2001, Vince wrote:
>Where is it, and can I manually edit it.
>
>OK I rolled the archives over and then edited the html file. I still
>would like to know if I can access and modify the current archives.
The web archives are rebuilt from the standard html archives every
time there's a new list contribution, so there's little point in
editing current.
>One more thing. I have had problems posting to a list while sending
>from Eudora with Xtnd transmit turned on. It comes through with a
>different from:address at least as far as EIMS is concerned. Then
>the message gets returned with the "you can't post cuz you are not
>subscribed" message. Some ISP's are blocking port25 for outgoing
>SMTP, so I have been using extend transmit to get out and send mail.
That's strange. When I just tested it, XTND XMIT appeared to be
unknown to EIMS being the POP server. I don't know if XTND XMIT makes
a difference in the SMTP FROM. (Anyway, you can enable RFC From in
the Admin, Command-J.)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:28:03 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Running a poll account in 2 different @preference sets
At 14:36 -0400 4/16/2001, Charles L. Martin wrote:
>Maybe because Mikael didn't write EIMS, and doesn't support it
>(officially, at least).
:-)
At 19:33 +0200 4/16/2001, Giedo De Snijder wrote:
>Thank you.
>Why didn't I hear about this earlier ????
You may want to take a look at
<http://www.dnai.com/~meh/autoshare/documentation/#multipreference>
that touches on this.
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:01:37 -0400
From: Michael Vinca <sanctimonious at mac dot com>
Subject: Even more confused
I am still trying to figure out this problem. I've backed up some stuff so
I could play.
I have delete the Autoshare folder in the Preference folder.
I deleted all files in the folders that autoshare uses (Lists, Documents,
etc.)
I setup Autoshare following the Quick Tutorial (to make sure I wasn't doing
anything bad).
I subscribed a few addresses to fun-l. I sent a post to fun-l. It all
worked.
I copied my Documents back to the Documents folder (Custom subscription
texts, etc.)
I unsubscribed, subscribed and posted to fun-l sucessfully.
Up unto this point, I have not opened Autoshare Admin, because it could all
be done in the Autoshare application itself.
Now, to test mailback, I open Account Setup in EIMS and change from "Filed
Mail" to "Mail Back".
I open the Autoshare Admin. I choose where Autoshare is. I go to More
Folders. I configure only the "Mail Back" and "Hold Mail" folders. I press
update. I quit the Admin. I quit Autoshare. I launch Autoshare.
I send a post to the list. It goes to "Mail Back". I send a sub request to
Autoshare. Autoshare places it in "Mail Back". I get no messages in
return.
:-(
--
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with." --Jim Croce "Time in a Bottle"
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:59:09 +0200
From: Giedo De Snijder <igiedsn at giedsn.eunet dot be>
Subject: Re: Running a poll account in 2 different @preference sets
>At 14:36 -0400 4/16/2001, Charles L. Martin wrote:
>>I've never used AS to run a poll, but I do recall from the EIMS
>>documentation that it does not maintain accounts for each domain served,
>>but a single account for all domains. So, if you have Poll at dom1 dot com and
>>Poll at dom2 dot com, mail to both would be treated exactly the same by EIMS. I
>>don't know if this answers your question, but I thought it was relevant.
Although I am not native english and as far as I can read at
freedonia.com, the documentation is about AIMS at the time it didn't
handle multiple domains properly (not like it is implemented in EIMS
2.0 or later)
At that time "it does not maintain accounts for each domain served,
but a single account for all domains".
But now in EIMS 3.0 ?
>>Maybe because Mikael didn't write EIMS, and doesn't support it
>>(officially, at least).
www.freedonia.com/pism/chapt04/html#12
>
>:-)
>
>At 19:33 +0200 4/16/2001, Giedo De Snijder wrote:
>
>>Thank you.
>>Why didn't I hear about this earlier ????
>
>You may want to take a look at
> <http://www.dnai.com/~meh/autoshare/documentation/#multipreference>
>that touches on this.
AutoShare documentation at
http://www.dnai.com/~meh/autoshare/documentation/#multipreference
Multiple Preference set
The configuration of each AutoShare 2.0 preference set must generally
correspond to the account configuration of a given EIMS 2.0 domain.
It is however possible to
arrange for multi-preference sets within a single-domain environment
as long as you avoid conflicting user names for the special accounts
(autoshare@, poll@,
protected@), which is accomplished by adding trailing labels to these
user names; use the Listserver Label property in the AppleScript Misc
Options to configure the
labels.
My comment:
We are not talking about "multi-preference sets within a
single-domain environment"
We are not talking about poll at domain.com - poll1@domain dot com - poll2 at domain dot c=
om
but about:
poll at domain.com - poll@domain2 dot com - poll at domain3 dot com, isn't it ?
Like I am able to run autoshare at domain1 dot com - autoshare at domain2 dot com -
=2E.. without ANY problems.
AIMS documentation at http://www.freedonia.com/pism/chapt04/html#12
Server Names
AIMS does a reverse domain name lookup for the machine it runs on
when it's first launched; it uses this value as the default server
name. In Figure 4.1, although mailbox.earnest.org is the default
server name, so that the server will accept mail in the form
user at mailbox.earnest dot org, we also want the server to accept mail
addressed to user at earnest dot org. To do so, we can type earnest.org in
the lower input box and click the Add box to add it as a name for
this host. Note that this tells the server to accept mail only for the
given address; the domain name system needs to be aware of your
machine's names in order to route the incoming messages to your
server. See the previous section, Mail Routing and the Domain System,
for more information.
AIMS will identify itself to other hosts using the default name,
which you can set by highlighting a name, and then clicking the
Default
button.
Providing Mail Service for Multiple Domains
By adding multiple server names, you may provide mail service for
multiple domains, provided, once again, that the Domain Name
System is aware of your machine's names in order to route the
incoming messages to your server.
You should be aware that AIMS's user name space remains global across
domains; any accounts you create for one domain are equally
valid for another served by the same copy of AIMS. For example, if
you configure AIMS to accept mail for both foo.com and bar.com,
the e-mail addresses jdoe at foo dot com and jdoe at bar dot com are equivalent,
and delivered to the single account, jdoe. The user jdoe and her
correspondants may use either address, although jdoe, if she belongs
to the organization foo.com, may not even know about the
organization bar.com being served by the same host.
My comment: I don't think this is relevant for EIMS 2.0 or EIMS 3.0
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Subject: Re: Running a poll account in 2 different @preference sets
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:21:02 -0400
From: Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
Well, first, I don't have EIMS 3.0, but 1.3, so I can't speak to whether
there has been a change. But some of your comments relate to AutoShare,
not EIMS. AutoShare can handle multiple domains. EIMS 1.3 can, too, but
EIMS 1.3 will only maintain one account with any given name. So, even
though AutoShare can keep them apart, it will not if EIMS is putting the
mail to both domains in the same account. I would recommend a test. Setup
an account called Test at dom1 dot com, and another called Test at dom2 dot com within
EIMS 3.0. Tell the first to file mail in a folder called Dom1 folder, and
the second in Dom2 folder. Then send two test messages, one to each
address. I suspect both will be filed in the Dom1 folder. If not, then
forget what I said. <g>
On 4/17/01 10:59 AM, Giedo De Snijder said:
>My comment:
>We are not talking about "multi-preference sets within a
>single-domain environment"
>We are not talking about poll at domain dot com - poll1 at domain dot com -
>poll2 at domain dot com
>but about:
>poll at domain.com - poll@domain2 dot com - poll at domain3 dot com, isn't it ?
>Like I am able to run autoshare at domain1 dot com - autoshare at domain2 dot com -
>... without ANY problems.
Charles L. Martin
clmartin at theOmbudsman dot com
http://www.theOmbudsman.com/Martin_Law/
123 N. McDonough St.
Decatur, GA 30030
404-373-3116, FAX 801-881-1246
Alice: "The King seems so prejudiced."
King: "Thank you Alice. That¹s what makes me so eminently qualified to be
Judge."
Alice in Wonderland, Lewis Carroll
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:57:47 +0200
From: Giedo De Snijder <igiedsn at giedsn.eunet dot be>
Subject: Re: Running a poll account in 2 different @preference sets
>Well, first, I don't have EIMS 3.0, but 1.3, so I can't speak to whether
>there has been a change. But some of your comments relate to AutoShare,
>not EIMS. AutoShare can handle multiple domains. EIMS 1.3 can, too, but
>EIMS 1.3 will only maintain one account with any given name. So, even
>though AutoShare can keep them apart, it will not if EIMS is putting the
>mail to both domains in the same account. I would recommend a test. Setup
>an account called Test at dom1 dot com, and another called Test at dom2 dot com within
>EIMS 3.0. Tell the first to file mail in a folder called Dom1 folder, and
>the second in Dom2 folder. Then send two test messages, one to each
>address. I suspect both will be filed in the Dom1 folder. If not, then
>forget what I said. <g>
I forget what you have said.
I set up test at dom1 dot com and test at dom2 dot com.
The accounts were set up to save mail as text files, each in another folder.
The message I sent to each of the accounts, were nicely saved for
each in their own folder.
So my question remains:
Why isn't possible to run poll at domain1 dot com and poll at domain2 dot com
without the problem that for both polls the poll status of onedomain
is used ?
Sending a message with no subject or a not assigned subject, will
give the right default message for both polls.
Sending a message to poll at domain1 dot com with a real poll subject for
the poll in that domain gives the right poll status.
Sending a message to poll at domain2 dot com with a real poll subject in
that domain (thus a different subject than for domain1.com) gives
ALSO the poll status of the poll running in domain1.com
>
>On 4/17/01 10:59 AM, Giedo De Snijder said:
>
>>My comment:
>>We are not talking about "multi-preference sets within a
>>single-domain environment"
>>We are not talking about poll at domain dot com - poll1 at domain dot com -
>>poll2 at domain dot com
>>but about:
>>poll at domain.com - poll@domain2 dot com - poll at domain3 dot com, isn't it ?
>>Like I am able to run autoshare at domain1 dot com - autoshare at domain2 dot com -
>>... without ANY problems.
>
>
>Charles L. Martin
>clmartin at theOmbudsman dot com
>http://www.theOmbudsman.com/Martin_Law/
>123 N. McDonough St.
>Decatur, GA 30030
>404-373-3116, FAX 801-881-1246
>
>Alice: "The King seems so prejudiced."
>King: "Thank you Alice. That's what makes me so eminently qualified to be
>Judge."
>Alice in Wonderland, Lewis Carroll
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Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:11:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Running a poll account in 2 different @preference sets
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Giedo De Snijder wrote:
> >I would recommend a test. Setup
> >an account called Test at dom1 dot com, and another called Test at dom2 dot com within
> >EIMS 3.0. Tell the first to file mail in a folder called Dom1 folder, and
> >the second in Dom2 folder. Then send two test messages, one to each
> >address. I suspect both will be filed in the Dom1 folder. If not, then
> >forget what I said. <g>
>
> I forget what you have said.
I take this to mean that both of these messages arrived in the Filed Mail
folder of the respective preference set. With that in mind, let's move on.
> I set up test at dom1 dot com and test at dom2 dot com.
That doesn't work. All poll messages must go to the poll@<domain> account,
and each preference set has one such account.
> The accounts were set up to save mail as text files, each in another folder.
> The message I sent to each of the accounts, were nicely saved for
> each in their own folder.
>
> So my question remains:
> Why isn't possible to run poll at domain1 dot com and poll at domain2 dot com
> without the problem that for both polls the poll status of onedomain
> is used ?
There is no such thing as a poll status for a given preference set. Each
poll is targeted a given topic, and that topic is reflected in the subject
field of the message to the poll@ account. You can therefore say that
there is a poll status for a given topic within a given preference set.
I just conducted a clean test with two preference sets. For each of them,
I did separate tests with and without keys. Everything happened as
expected, and at no time did a poll status get mixed up with another.
All of this has virtually nothing to do with domains, and I don't think
it's poll-related either. It likely has everything to do with multiple
preference sets. Whenever you configure a given preference set in the
AutoShare application, the very first thing to do is Command-U and
selecting a given preference set to be sure that you are indeed
configuring that preference set and not mixing them up; once you're done,
re-select all preference sets; the same mechanism applies to the Admin.
Strange things can happen when preference sets are not kept apart. To make
sure you're alright, you can start out by running an Analysis file for
each preference set and check the folder paths.
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:50:45 +0200
From: Detlef Beyer <d.beyer at crash dot de>
Subject: Admin Commands go to the Mail Back folder
Hi,
something is going wrong with my Autoshare installation (running for a long time now). I switched to the newest AS version (4.2.2) and now I have a problem with all list running on the machine. When a mail is send to a list everything works fine, the mail
is being distributed to all recipients. But whenever a admin command is send to the autoshare at mylistserver dot com address (like "review listname"), the incoming mail shows up in the Filed Mail folder for a sec
(I don't use mail back for any command) and stays there for ever without being processed. When I copy the file from "Mail Back" to "Filed Mail" the file will be processed immediately like it worked before.
What can I do to fix this problem?!
Best,
Detlef
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:59:46 -0400
From: Michael Vinca <sanctimonious at mac dot com>
Subject: Re: Admin Commands go to the Mail Back folder
This is exactly what is currently happening on my system. Except I use
MailBack for posting to about 20 of our 45 lists, and none of them work.
The MailBack folder seems to not be being checked. I was figuring that I
screwed up some preference, but I have yet to figure it out. I think my
next test will be an old version of Autoshare to see what happens. Won't be
able to test that until tomorrow though.
--
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Rutherford,The Living Years
> From: Detlef Beyer <d.beyer at crash dot de>
> Reply-To: Subscribers of AutoShare-Talk <autoshare-talk at lists.pensive dot org>
> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:50:45 +0200
> To: Subscribers of AutoShare-Talk <autoshare-talk at lists.pensive dot org>
> Subject: Admin Commands go to the Mail Back folder
>
> Hi,
>
> something is going wrong with my Autoshare installation (running for a long
> time now). I switched to the newest AS version (4.2.2) and now I have a
> problem with all list running on the machine. When a mail is send to a list
> everything works fine, the mail
> is being distributed to all recipients. But whenever a admin command is send
> to the autoshare at mylistserver dot com address (like "review listname"), the
> incoming mail shows up in the Filed Mail folder for a seconds and is then
> copied to the Mail Back folder
> (I don't use mail back for any command) and stays there for ever without being
> processed. When I copy the file from "Mail Back" to "Filed Mail" the file will
> be processed immediately like it worked before.
> What can I do to fix this problem?!
>
> Best,
>
> Detlef
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:01:34 +0100
From: Bill Bedford <billb at mousa.demon.co dot uk>
Subject: Re: Admin Commands go to the Mail Back folder
At 8:59 am -0400 18/04/01, Michael Vinca wrote:
>This is exactly what is currently happening on my system. Except I use
>MailBack for posting to about 20 of our 45 lists, and none of them work.
>The MailBack folder seems to not be being checked. I was figuring that I
>screwed up some preference, but I have yet to figure it out. I think my
>next test will be an old version of Autoshare to see what happens. Won't be
>able to test that until tomorrow though.
Check that you don't have an invisible file in the mail back folder.
--
Bill Bedford
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:10:53 +0200
From: Detlef Beyer <d.beyer at crash dot de>
Subject: Re: Admin Commands go to the Mail Back folder
>Check that you don't have an invisible file in the mail back folder.
there is no invisible file on my server :(
Detlef
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:43:29 +0200
From: Giedo De Snijder <igiedsn at giedsn.eunet dot be>
Subject: Poll problem maybe solved ;-)
Poll at abitmore dot be - subject: ssr2001
Poll at beaware dot be - subject: midgard
Poll at echgman dot com - subject: CMNBNLugMeeting
1) Poll account in default domain "abitmore.be"
save as files: HD:AutoABM:Filed Mail
2) Poll account in beware.be (@beaware preference set in System
=46older:Preferences:AutoShare:)
save as files: HD:Auto:Filed Mail
3) 2) Poll account in echgman.com (@echgman preference set in System
=46older:Preferences:AutoShare:)
save as files: HD:AutoECHG:Filed Mail
They are all set up the same way!
Poll at abitmore dot be and poll at beaware dot be are working as it should with or
without the defined subject
Poll at echgman dot com is working with an undefined subject (AutoShare will
give the default doc message) but with the defined subject
"CMNBNLugMeeting" and a vote on the first line of the body, it gives
the poll status of "poll@abitmore dot be"
Then I set up a new subject for echgman.com "focus", just to see if
that one would go nuts too.
it didn't.
So the only conclusion I can make as a user is: the subject of a poll
may not contain 15 characters ;-)
Anyone knows the limit for poll subjects ?
P.S. You can check it out when you don't believe me.
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Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:21:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Poll problem maybe solved ;-)
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Giedo De Snijder wrote:
> So the only conclusion I can make as a user is: the subject of a poll
> may not contain 15 characters ;-)
> Anyone knows the limit for poll subjects ?
<http://www.dnai.com/~meh/autoshare/documentation/#poll>
says "key strings (max 20 characters each)". Is that it?
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:52:53 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Admin Commands go to the Mail Back folder
At 14:50 +0200 4/18/2001, Detlef Beyer wrote:
>something is going wrong with my Autoshare installation (running for
>a long time now). I switched to the newest AS version (4.2.2) and
>now I have a problem with all list running on the machine. When a
>mail is send to a list everything works fine, the mail
> is being distributed to all recipients. But whenever a admin
>command is send to the autoshare at mylistserver dot com address (like
>"review listname"), the incoming mail shows up in the Filed Mail
>folder for a seconds and is then copied to the Mail Back folder
>(I don't use mail back for any command) and stays there for ever
>without being processed. When I copy the file from "Mail Back" to
>"Filed Mail" the file will be processed immediately like it worked
>before.
>What can I do to fix this problem?!
It looks like you're correct. I'll look into it.
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:13:27 +0200
From: Giedo De Snijder <igiedsn at giedsn.eunet dot be>
Subject: Re: Poll problem maybe solved ;-)
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>On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Giedo De Snijder wrote:
>
>> So the only conclusion I can make as a user is: the subject of a poll
>> may not contain 15 characters ;-)
>> Anyone knows the limit for poll subjects ?
>
><http://www.dnai.com/~meh/autoshare/documentation/#poll>
>
>says "key strings (max 20 characters each)". Is that it?
No, the length in characters of the subject line !
It looks like it must be less than 15 characters.
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Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:17:17 -0400
From: Michael Vinca <sanctimonious at mac dot com>
Subject: Re: Admin Commands go to the Mail Back folder
Hey thanks. I did have the invisible "Icon" File in my Filed Mail and Mail
Back folders. I removed them both and reran Autoshare. Unfortunately, it
didn't fix the problem, but I never would have thought of that.
--
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> From: Bill Bedford <billb at mousa.demon.co dot uk>
> Reply-To: Subscribers of AutoShare-Talk <autoshare-talk at lists.pensive dot org>
> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:01:34 +0100
> To: Subscribers of AutoShare-Talk <autoshare-talk at lists.pensive dot org>
> Subject: Re: Admin Commands go to the Mail Back folder
>
> Check that you don't have an invisible file in the mail back folder.
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:23:42 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Poll problem maybe solved ;-)
At 00:13 +0200 4/19/2001, Giedo De Snijder wrote:
>No, the length in characters of the subject line !
>It looks like it must be less than 15 characters.
I tried with a subject of 18 characters. All is well.
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:25:05 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: AutoShare 4.2.3d1
4.2.3d1 has been uploaded to
<http://www.dnai.com/~meh/download/AutoShare/Beta/>
Detlef and others, let me know if this works for you. (PPC only.)
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:17:49 -0400
From: Michael Vinca <sanctimonious at mac dot com>
Subject: Re: Admin Commands go to the Mail Back folder
You are a God. That queue in my Mail Back folder was gone within seconds.
:-)
--
"You always have my unspoken passion" --Billy Joel "Just the Way You Are"
> From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
> Reply-To: Subscribers of AutoShare-Talk <autoshare-talk at lists.pensive dot org>
> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:52:53 -0700
> To: Subscribers of AutoShare-Talk <autoshare-talk at lists.pensive dot org>
> Subject: Re: Admin Commands go to the Mail Back folder
>
> It looks like you're correct. I'll look into it.
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:56:40 +0200
From: Giedo De Snijder <igiedsn at giedsn.eunet dot be>
Subject: Re: Poll problem maybe solved ;-)
>At 00:13 +0200 4/19/2001, Giedo De Snijder wrote:
>
>>No, the length in characters of the subject line !
>>It looks like it must be less than 15 characters.
>
>I tried with a subject of 18 characters. All is well.
Good for you, bad for me ;-)
I had hoped this would have explained my weird poll problem.
So one subject for a poll running in domain2.com is going fine,
another subject gets the poll status from a poll running in
domain1.com.
You can always heck it out (see earlier message).
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:20:49 +0200
From: Detlef Beyer <d.beyer at crash dot de>
Subject: Re: AutoShare 4.2.3d1
>4.2.3d1 has been uploaded to
>
> <http://www.dnai.com/~meh/download/AutoShare/Beta/>
>
>Detlef and others, let me know if this works for you. (PPC only.)
Works perfect! Thanks a lot!
Detlef
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:00:46 +0200
From: Giedo De Snijder <igiedsn at giedsn.eunet dot be>
Subject: Avoiding UNSUB in private lists
Hi,
Maybe one of my dummiest but is there a way to avoid unsub commands
to private lists from subscribers?
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 04:14:25 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Avoiding UNSUB in private lists
At 09:00 +0200 4/19/2001, Giedo De Snijder wrote:
>Maybe one of my dummiest but is there a way to avoid unsub commands
>to private lists from subscribers?
There is no explicit way to do it for private lists, but you can
change your Unsub file in the Documents:AutoShare folder to an Unsub
folder with a Default file inside and then add files with no /=unsub
token for every list not allowing unsubscribing.
Subject: Re: Poll problem maybe solved ;-)
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:44:32 -0400
From: Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
Could it be related to use of special characters in the subject line?
On 4/19/01 12:56 AM, Giedo De Snijder said:
>>At 00:13 +0200 4/19/2001, Giedo De Snijder wrote:
>>
>>>No, the length in characters of the subject line !
>>>It looks like it must be less than 15 characters.
>>
>>I tried with a subject of 18 characters. All is well.
>
>Good for you, bad for me ;-)
>I had hoped this would have explained my weird poll problem.
>So one subject for a poll running in domain2.com is going fine,
>another subject gets the poll status from a poll running in
>domain1.com.
>You can always heck it out (see earlier message).
Charles L. Martin
clmartin at theOmbudsman dot com
http://www.theOmbudsman.com/Martin_Law/
123 N. McDonough St.
Decatur, GA 30030
404-373-3116, FAX 801-881-1246
Alice: "The King seems so prejudiced."
King: "Thank you Alice. That¹s what makes me so eminently qualified to be
Judge."
Alice in Wonderland, Lewis Carroll
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 23:58:57 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Subject: Re: Web archive modifications
At 8:17 PM -0700 4/15/01, Vince wrote:
> One more thing. I have had problems posting to a list while sending
> from Eudora with Xtnd transmit turned on. It comes through with a
> different from:address at least as far as EIMS is concerned. Then
> the message gets returned with the "you can't post cuz you are not
> subscribed" message. Some ISP's are blocking port25 for outgoing
> SMTP, so I have been using extend transmit to get out and send mail.
Is the SMTP From (the Return-Path) different, or is it the 'From:'
header field that is different when you use XTND XMIT?
In any case, you can try subscribing whatever address is used when
you XTND XMIT, but set 'nomail' for that address. Then you can post,
but don't get duplicate mail.
--
Randall Gellens Randy at Pensive dot Org
---------------------- (randomly-selected tag) ---------------------
Flappity, floppity, flip
The mouse on the Mobius strip;
The strip revolved,
The mouse dissolved
In a chronodimensional skip.
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:12:52 -0600
Subject: Autoshare and OS X ... ?
From: mark malowany <mark.malowany at ulec.cius.ualberta dot ca>
Does anyone know if there are plans/timetable for Autoshare to go OS X
native?
thanks and cheers!
marko
--
mark malowany, publications manager
Ukrainian Language Education Centre,
Canadian Institute of Ukrainian Studies
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 07:28:16 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Autoshare and OS X ... ?
At 15:12 -0600 4/23/2001, mark malowany wrote:
>Does anyone know if there are plans/timetable for Autoshare to go OS X
>native?
>
>thanks and cheers!
>marko
There's a plan; there's no timetable. Mostly waiting for the tools to mature.
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 13:13:10 -0700
From: Michael Swan <swan at neon dot com>
Subject: strange AutoShare behavior
Hello,
We have been running AutoShare 3.01 (yes, I know it's not the latest)
for a LONG time. It has been working great until I created a new
mailing list about a week ago.
Since then, when we send commands to AutoShare, we get the following
bounces:
==================================================
X-Sender: autoshare
To: xxx at uleth dot ca
From: autoshare
Errors-To: listmaster@ (Listmaster at neon dot com)
Precedence: bulk
Subject: Web Page Sign Up
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 24:00:42 -0700
List-Software: AutoShare 3.0.1 by Mikael Hansen
Message-Id: <752384323787771205766 at neon dot com>
Sorry. The recipient address is not valid.
> Return-Path: <xxx at uleth dot ca>
> Received: from www.unknown.dom (157.22.221.197) by neon.com
> with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.3.1); Tue, 24 Apr 2001 12:00:39 -0700
> To: listserv at neon dot com
> From: xxx at uleth dot ca
> Subject: Web Page Sign Up
> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 12:00:39 -0700
> Message-ID: <1224008857-42015182 at neon dot com>
>
> subscribe xxx XXX XXX
>
>
==================================================
[the names and email addresses have been changed to protect the innocent]
Yet, if we send the same subscribe command a few minutes later,
it will work just fine.
Is there some know flakiness in the 3.0.1 version WRT recipient
address processing? I've done a search through the mailing list
archives by hand since there is no automated search and I didn't
see anything obvious...
Michael Swan
Neon Software, Inc.
Subject: Auto-Reply to: AutoShare-Talk digest 25 Apr 20
From: ray at degroat dot com
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 00:02:13 -0700
Hello,
Thank you very much for contacting me! This is an auto-reply message from my mail server.
I will be out of town for a while and away from my computer, but will read your email as soon as I can. For information about my services and alternate ways to reach me, please visit my Website.
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I will be checking my email remotely when possible, so I will get your message eventually.
Sincerely,
Ray de Groat
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