The autoshare-talk list archive ending on 11 Jul 2001
Topics covered in this issue include:
1. Re: strange AutoShare behavior
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Wed, 25 Apr 2001 07:18:21 -0700
2. encoded characters inside header-part
"Pascal Oberndoerfer" <p.oberndoerfer at urheberrecht dot org>
Wed, 25 Apr 2001 19:39:04 +0200
3. Updating AutoShare
Michael Swan <swan at neon dot com>
Wed, 25 Apr 2001 11:57:36 -0700
4. Re: Updating AutoShare
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Wed, 25 Apr 2001 21:16:49 -0700
5. Re: encoded characters inside header-part
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Wed, 25 Apr 2001 21:23:01 -0700
6. Auto-Reply to: AutoShare-Talk digest 26 Apr 20
ray at degroat dot com
Thu, 26 Apr 2001 00:02:29 -0700
7. Re: Updating AutoShare
Michael Swan <swan at neon dot com>
Thu, 26 Apr 2001 14:38:56 -0700
8. Problems with 4.2.2
Allan Ogg <a.ogg at scet dot com>
Tue, 01 May 2001 15:13:48 +0100
9. Re: Problems with 4.2.2
"Michael J. Vinca" <sanctimonious at mac dot com>
Tue, 1 May 2001 11:26:57 -0400
10. AutoShare 4.2.3 released
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Tue, 1 May 2001 18:38:12 -0700
11. Admin by Mail
Harald Striepe <harald at windholm dot com>
Tue, 1 May 2001 20:05:04 -0700
12. Re: Admin by Mail
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Wed, 2 May 2001 07:01:11 -0700
13. RE: Admin by Mail
Harald Striepe <harald at windholm dot com>
Wed, 2 May 2001 07:44:46 -0700
14. RE: Admin by Mail
Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
Wed, 2 May 2001 15:49:11 -0400
15. RE: Admin by Mail
Harald Striepe <harald at windholm dot com>
Wed, 2 May 2001 20:33:02 -0700
16. Re: Admin by Mail
"Michael J. Vinca" <sanctimonious at mac dot com>
Thu, 3 May 2001 09:09:26 -0400
17. Web forms
Bill Bedford <billb at mousa.demon.co dot uk>
Wed, 9 May 2001 19:08:30 +0100
18. Re: Web forms
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Wed, 9 May 2001 12:35:54 -0700
19. Digest formats
"Terry R. Schussler" <terry at trevimedia dot com>
Wed, 9 May 2001 13:20:31 -0700
20. Re: Web forms
Bill Bedford <billb at mousa.demon.co dot uk>
Wed, 9 May 2001 22:23:03 +0100
21. RE: Autoshare problem with MIME encoding for Entourage and OE
Administrator <admin at aladdinsys dot com>
Mon, 21 May 2001 15:19:45 -0700
22. Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 22 May 2001
Andrew Schmiechen <aschmiechen at discovercolor dot com>
Tue, 22 May 2001 08:13:57 -0500
23. Everything is an attachment
Steve Wiedemann <swiedem at henninger dot com>
Tue, 22 May 2001 11:31:54 -0400
24. Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 22 May 2001
Administrator <admin at aladdinsys dot com>
Tue, 22 May 2001 11:20:52 -0700
25. Digest formats
"Terry R. Schussler" <terry at trevimedia dot com>
Sat, 26 May 2001 07:57:24 -0700
26. Sorry to bother you, i need help setting up a vacation notice service.
"Rene Markussen" <rm at silkeborg.bib dot dk>
Tue, 29 May 2001 18:26:24 +0200
27. MIME Digests
Bill Bedford <billb at mousa.demon.co dot uk>
Tue, 29 May 2001 17:52:07 +0100
28. Archives stopped working
David Stodolsky <david.stodolsky at socialinformatics dot org>
Mon, 4 Jun 2001 14:38:45 +0200
29. Bounce processing using SIMS
David Graham <dgraham at pwiworks dot org>
Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:06:22 -0700
30. Searchable archives?
David Graham <dgraham at pwiworks dot org>
Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:08:17 -0700
31. Re: Bounce processing using SIMS
Serge Belleudy-d'Espinose <sam at ijm.jussieu dot fr>
Tue, 19 Jun 2001 03:32:41 +0200
32. Re: Bounce processing using SIMS - oops!
Serge Belleudy-d'Espinose <sam at ijm.jussieu dot fr>
Tue, 19 Jun 2001 03:36:36 +0200
33. Hard Crash Running AS Admin
Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Sun, 24 Jun 2001 00:43:34 -0700
34. Re: Hard Crash Running AS Admin
David Graham <dgraham at pwiworks dot org>
Sun, 24 Jun 2001 14:32:25 -0700
35. Blank Auto Replies
tuckergperry <tucker at idiom dot com>
Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:53:25 -0700
36. Re: Blank Auto Replies
Administrator <admin at aladdinsys dot com>
Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:08:46 -0700
37. Bounce processing using SIMS [Second post]
David Graham <dgraham at pwiworks dot org>
Mon, 2 Jul 2001 13:44:48 -0700
38. Re: Hard Crash Running AS Admin
Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Tue, 3 Jul 2001 23:12:09 -0700
39. Re: Hard Crash Running AS Admin
David Graham <dgraham at pwiworks dot org>
Wed, 4 Jul 2001 10:36:36 -0700
40. Re: Searchable archives?
Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Wed, 4 Jul 2001 11:46:07 -0700
41. Re: Hard Crash Running AS Admin
Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Wed, 4 Jul 2001 12:13:12 -0700
42. Re: Searchable archives?
David Graham <dgraham at pwiworks dot org>
Wed, 4 Jul 2001 12:20:55 -0700
43. Re: Searchable archives?
Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Wed, 4 Jul 2001 12:30:38 -0700
44. Re: Hard Crash Running AS Admin
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Wed, 4 Jul 2001 23:56:54 -0700
45. Re: Bounce processing using SIMS [Second post]
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Wed, 4 Jul 2001 23:58:55 -0700
46. Problems with signups
Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
10 Jul 01 15:51:22 -0500
47. Re: Problems with signups
Chris Dowling <cdowling at lists.education.wisc dot edu>
Tue, 10 Jul 2001 16:23:21 -0500
48. multiple domains DISPAIR
"Th. J. van Hoesel" <Th.J.v.Hoesel at thema-media dot nl>
Wed, 11 Jul 2001 06:45:43 +0200
49. 550 <autoshare@dom1>... User Unknown
"Th. J. van Hoesel" <Th.J.v.Hoesel at thema-media dot nl>
Wed, 11 Jul 2001 06:48:40 +0200
50. Re: Problems with signups
Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
11 Jul 01 08:33:55 -0500
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 07:18:21 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: strange AutoShare behavior
At 13:13 -0700 4/24/2001, Michael Swan wrote:
>Hello,
>
>We have been running AutoShare 3.01 (yes, I know it's not the latest)
>for a LONG time. It has been working great until I created a new
>mailing list about a week ago.
>
>Since then, when we send commands to AutoShare, we get the following
>bounces:
>
>==================================================
>X-Sender: autoshare
>To: xxx at uleth dot ca
>From: autoshare
>Errors-To: listmaster@ (Listmaster at neon dot com)
>Precedence: bulk
>Subject: Web Page Sign Up
>Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 24:00:42 -0700
>List-Software: AutoShare 3.0.1 by Mikael Hansen
>Message-Id: <752384323787771205766 at neon dot com>
>
>Sorry. The recipient address is not valid.
>
>> Return-Path: <xxx at uleth dot ca>
>> Received: from www.unknown.dom (157.22.221.197) by neon.com
>> with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.3.1); Tue, 24 Apr 2001
>>12:00:39 -0700
>> To: listserv at neon dot com
>> From: xxx at uleth dot ca
>> Subject: Web Page Sign Up
>> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 12:00:39 -0700
>> Message-ID: <1224008857-42015182 at neon dot com>
>>
>> subscribe xxx XXX XXX
> >
>>
That's due to domain confusion, in part likely because a domain isn't
specified, e.g. 'autoshare' instead of 'autoshare at neon dot com'. Later
versions of AutoShare can give you a more detailed error message.
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 19:39:04 +0200
Subject: encoded characters inside header-part
From: "Pascal Oberndoerfer" <p.oberndoerfer at urheberrecht dot org>
AutoShare treats special characters (like äöü) inside the header part of
a message very nicely. Unfortunately the encoding now shows up in the
archives. Can I do anything against it? Given below is an example.
Regards
Pascal
--- cut ---
UMLAUTE =?ISO-8859-1?B?5Pb8IN8gxNbcIKc=?
--- cut ---
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 11:57:36 -0700
From: Michael Swan <swan at neon dot com>
Subject: Updating AutoShare
Hi,
This may seem like a dumb question but I haven't seen anything
in the AutoShare documentation to cover it...
We're updating AutoShare from 3.0.1 to 4.2.2. What's the best
way to do this? Since we have lots of files and preferences
for our current mailing lists already in the "Samples" folder,
can we just drop the new versions of AutoShare and AutoShare Admin
into the same folders as the 3.0.1 (AutoShare/PPC and AutoShare/Admin)
and fire up the new AutoShare?
I realize that we have to clear the log files (per the documentation)
before updating, but besides this, does my strategy above work?
Michael Swan
Neon Software, Inc.
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 21:16:49 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Updating AutoShare
At 11:57 -0700 4/25/2001, Michael Swan wrote:
>We're updating AutoShare from 3.0.1 to 4.2.2. What's the best
>way to do this? Since we have lots of files and preferences
>for our current mailing lists already in the "Samples" folder,
>can we just drop the new versions of AutoShare and AutoShare Admin
>into the same folders as the 3.0.1 (AutoShare/PPC and AutoShare/Admin)
>and fire up the new AutoShare?
>
>I realize that we have to clear the log files (per the documentation)
>before updating, but besides this, does my strategy above work?
I believe so; backups come in handy of course, just in case it isn't
so. Anyway, I tend to upgrade just as soon as any version becomes
available, so I'm likely not the most qualified person to offer
advice on bigger jumps :-) PS: if you decide to go with 4.2.2, be
sure to download 4.2.3d1 as well.
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 21:23:01 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: encoded characters inside header-part
At 19:39 +0200 4/25/2001, Pascal Oberndoerfer wrote:
>AutoShare treats special characters (like äöü) inside the header part
of
>a message very nicely. Unfortunately the encoding now shows up in the
>archives. Can I do anything against it? Given below is an example.
That's tricky, because an archive contains all kinds of differently
formatted messages. If you like, you can play around with some sample
archive message files to see if other MIME fields in the RFC header
work better for you and then drop me a note, if you have a suggestion.
Subject: Auto-Reply to: AutoShare-Talk digest 26 Apr 20
From: ray at degroat dot com
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 00:02:29 -0700
Hello,
Thank you very much for contacting me! This is an auto-reply message from my mail server.
I will be out of town for a while and away from my computer, but will read your email as soon as I can. For information about my services and alternate ways to reach me, please visit my Website.
http://www.degroat.com/
I will be checking my email remotely when possible, so I will get your message eventually.
Sincerely,
Ray de Groat
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 14:38:56 -0700
From: Michael Swan <swan at neon dot com>
Subject: Re: Updating AutoShare
Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> wrote:
>At 11:57 -0700 4/25/2001, Michael Swan wrote:
>
>>We're updating AutoShare from 3.0.1 to 4.2.2. What's the best
>>way to do this? Since we have lots of files and preferences
>>for our current mailing lists already in the "Samples" folder,
>>can we just drop the new versions of AutoShare and AutoShare Admin
>>into the same folders as the 3.0.1 (AutoShare/PPC and AutoShare/Admin)
>>and fire up the new AutoShare?
>>
>>I realize that we have to clear the log files (per the documentation)
>>before updating, but besides this, does my strategy above work?
>
>I believe so; backups come in handy of course, just in case it isn't so. Anyway, I tend to upgrade just as soon as any version becomes available, so I'm likely not the most qualified person to offer advice on bigger jumps :-) PS: if you decide to go w
4.2.2, be sure to download 4.2.3d1 as well.
Hello,
Just a short followup...
We simply swapped in the 4.2.3d1 version of AutoShare and the
4.2.2 version of the Admin app into our old 3.0.1 directory
structure, then fired up AutoShare. Everything looks good so
far.
So, the answer for now appears to be yes: you can drop the
new versions of the apps in and they just work!
Thanks!
Michael Swan
Neon Software, Inc.
Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 15:13:48 +0100
From: Allan Ogg <a.ogg at scet dot com>
Subject: Problems with 4.2.2
Having upgraded to 4.2.2 I found that it wouldn't even startup.
We were running it under System 7.5.5 and it complained of missing
Internet libraries.
Thinking I had it sussed I installed Internet Config and it started and
appeared to run OK. The autoreplay addresses worked fine but all a
mail for list subs, etc. were moved into the Mail Back folder and then
ignored.
After a couple of other thoughts like upgrading the system to 8.6, I've
since gone back to 4.2.1 and all seems OK again (even if 8.6 makes it a
slower server).
Any thoughts or is it a bug in 4.2.2?
Allan Ogg
Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 11:26:57 -0400
From: "Michael J. Vinca" <sanctimonious at mac dot com>
Subject: Re: Problems with 4.2.2
Try the Beta 4.2.3.
On Tuesday, May 1, 2001, at 10:13 AM, Allan Ogg wrote:
> Any thoughts or is it a bug in 4.2.2?
>
Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 18:38:12 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: AutoShare 4.2.3 released
Version 4.2.3 is available from
the AutoShare home page at
<http://www.dnai.com/~meh/autoshare/>
and AutoShare @home
<http://members.home.net/autoshare/>
4.2.3 is a partial PPC-only archive and fixes a bug in 4.2.2,
relating to file copying in several places. Apart from the version
number, it is identical to 4.2.3d1. It's being released at this time
because I'll spend the next few weeks moving from a 7500 to a G4.
Finally :-)
From: Harald Striepe <harald at windholm dot com>
Subject: Admin by Mail
Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 20:05:04 -0700
I am using AutoShare 4.2.2 and now 4.2.3 on an 8500, system 8.6.
After getting it to work once, the system refuses to accept listmaster admin
by mail. I have option B and passwords set for each list, but it does not
recognize the password as a command. I do not have separate admins in each
list - that field is empty.
I tried using it from the listmaster account (previously, my regular account
was fine).
My format is
<password> subscribe addr@domain Name1 Name2
I've got to bring up some long lists, so help would be appreciated...
Harald
Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 07:01:11 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Admin by Mail
At 20:05 -0700 5/1/2001, Harald Striepe wrote:
>I have option B and passwords set for each list
The letter B in Misc Stuff is not list-specific. Is that it?
From: Harald Striepe <harald at windholm dot com>
Subject: RE: Admin by Mail
Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 07:44:46 -0700
According to the manual, it's a global setting enabling that feature.
Weird that it worked, and then stopped.
Is anybody else out there using it?
Harald Striepe
-----Original Message-----
From: Mikael Hansen [mailto:meh at dnai dot com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 7:01 AM
To: Subscribers of AutoShare-Talk
Subject: Re: Admin by Mail
At 20:05 -0700 5/1/2001, Harald Striepe wrote:
>I have option B and passwords set for each list
The letter B in Misc Stuff is not list-specific. Is that it?
Subject: RE: Admin by Mail
Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 15:49:11 -0400
From: Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
Yup. Works great!
On 5/2/01 10:44 AM, Harald Striepe said:
>According to the manual, it's a global setting enabling that feature.
>
>Weird that it worked, and then stopped.
>Is anybody else out there using it?
>
>Harald Striepe
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mikael Hansen [mailto:meh at dnai dot com]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 7:01 AM
>To: Subscribers of AutoShare-Talk
>Subject: Re: Admin by Mail
>
>
>At 20:05 -0700 5/1/2001, Harald Striepe wrote:
>
>>I have option B and passwords set for each list
>
>The letter B in Misc Stuff is not list-specific. Is that it?
Charles L. Martin
clmartin at theOmbudsman dot com
http://www.theOmbudsman.com/Martin_Law/
123 N. McDonough St.
Decatur, GA 30030
404-373-3116, FAX 801-881-1246
Alice: "The King seems so prejudiced."
King: "Thank you Alice. That¹s what makes me so eminently qualified to be
Judge."
Alice in Wonderland, Lewis Carroll
From: Harald Striepe <harald at windholm dot com>
Subject: RE: Admin by Mail
Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 20:33:02 -0700
I saw there was supposed to be a global password. Where is it set?
Harald
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles L. Martin [mailto:clmartin at theombudsman dot com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 12:49 PM
To: Subscribers of AutoShare-Talk
Subject: RE: Admin by Mail
Yup. Works great!
On 5/2/01 10:44 AM, Harald Striepe said:
>According to the manual, it's a global setting enabling that feature.
>
>Weird that it worked, and then stopped.
>Is anybody else out there using it?
>
>Harald Striepe
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mikael Hansen [mailto:meh at dnai dot com]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 7:01 AM
>To: Subscribers of AutoShare-Talk
>Subject: Re: Admin by Mail
>
>
>At 20:05 -0700 5/1/2001, Harald Striepe wrote:
>
>>I have option B and passwords set for each list
>
>The letter B in Misc Stuff is not list-specific. Is that it?
Charles L. Martin
clmartin at theOmbudsman dot com
http://www.theOmbudsman.com/Martin_Law/
123 N. McDonough St.
Decatur, GA 30030
404-373-3116, FAX 801-881-1246
Alice: "The King seems so prejudiced."
King: "Thank you Alice. That¹s what makes me so eminently qualified
to be
Judge."
Alice in Wonderland, Lewis Carroll
Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 09:09:26 -0400
From: "Michael J. Vinca" <sanctimonious at mac dot com>
Subject: Re: Admin by Mail
If you are using Autoshare Admin, click on the "List" button without
selecting a list. When you don't select a list, you are telling the
admin to make global changes.
Do the above after you have select the "Lists" menu option.
~Mike
On Wednesday, May 2, 2001, at 11:33 PM, Harald Striepe wrote:
> I saw there was supposed to be a global password. Where is it set?
>
> Harald
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 19:08:30 +0100
From: Bill Bedford <billb at mousa.demon.co dot uk>
Subject: Web forms
I've just seen this from mail from a web form
Received: by mousa.demon.co.uk (Stalker Internet Mail Server 1.8b8)
with FILE id S.0000241701 for <steve.gregson at btinternet dot com>; Wed, 09
May 2001 18:23:52 +0100
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="POSTDATA.ATT"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
From: autoshare at mousa.demon.co dot uk (autoshare)
Errors-To: autoshare_out at mousa.demon.co dot uk (Bounce)
Precedence: bulk
Subject: list=Brit_Rail-L&Name=Steve+Gre
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 18:23:37 +0100
List-Software: AutoShare 4.2 by Mikael Hansen
Message-Id: <895650541439596972013 at mousa.demon.co dot uk>
Invalid list server command: list=Brit_Rail-L&Name=Steve+Gre
Plain text is required. Please turn off styled text.
> Message-ID: <000001c0d8ab$8cd747e0$1ea97ad5@tinypc>
> From: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
> To: <autoshare at mousa.demon.co dot uk>
> Subject: Brit_Rail form
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="POSTDATA.ATT"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Content-Disposition: attachment;
> filename="POSTDATA.ATT"
> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200
> Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 18:13:19 +0100
>
> list=Brit_Rail-L&Name=Steve+Gregson&command=subscribe&summit=Send+This+Form
How do you get Autoshare to recognise mail from webforms.?
--
Bill Bedford
Of course, it is very important to be sober when you take an exam.
Many worthwhile careers in the street-cleansing and fruit-picking
industries have been founded on a lack of understanding of this simple
fact.
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 12:35:54 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Web forms
At 7:08 PM +0100 5/9/01, Bill Bedford wrote:
>I've just seen this from mail from a web form
>
>
>Received: by mousa.demon.co.uk (Stalker Internet Mail Server 1.8b8)
>with FILE id S.0000241701 for <steve.gregson at btinternet dot com>; Wed,
>09 May 2001 18:23:52 +0100
>Mime-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="POSTDATA.ATT"
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
>From: autoshare at mousa.demon.co dot uk (autoshare)
>Errors-To: autoshare_out at mousa.demon.co dot uk (Bounce)
>Precedence: bulk
>Subject: list=Brit_Rail-L&Name=Steve+Gre
>Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 18:23:37 +0100
>List-Software: AutoShare 4.2 by Mikael Hansen
>Message-Id: <895650541439596972013 at mousa.demon.co dot uk>
>
>Invalid list server command: list=Brit_Rail-L&Name=Steve+Gre
>Plain text is required. Please turn off styled text.
>
>> Message-ID: <000001c0d8ab$8cd747e0$1ea97ad5@tinypc>
>> From: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
>> To: <autoshare at mousa.demon.co dot uk>
>> Subject: Brit_Rail form
>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>> Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="POSTDATA.ATT"
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>> Content-Disposition: attachment;
>> filename="POSTDATA.ATT"
>> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200
>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200
>> Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 18:13:19 +0100
>>
>> list=Brit_Rail-L&Name=Steve+Gregson&command=subscribe&summit=Send+This+Form
>
>
>How do you get Autoshare to recognise mail from webforms.?
Typically you would use your browser to handle the web form's mailto
action. In your case, does IE leave the mail to be sent by OE? If so,
be sure to configure it to send mail in plain text, not HTML.
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 13:20:31 -0700
From: "Terry R. Schussler" <terry at trevimedia dot com>
Subject: Digest formats
How much control is there over the digest format. Currently, I've enabled
the insertion of list submissions (TOC) into the top of the digest. Can I
reverse the chronology? Can I have the TOC shown in a thread format, ala:
---
wwwac Digest 9 May 2001 12:00:00 -0000 Issue 2178
Topics (messages 61651 through 61664):
SPACE ELEVATOR COMES CLOSER
61651 by: vnoto at webtv dot net (VJ Machiavelli)
61654 by: hens <hens at monospace dot com>
61655 by: "Frank D. Greco" <fgreco at CrossroadsTech dot com>
61663 by: Marty Landman <marty at face2interface dot com>
61664 by: Marty Landman <marty at face2interface dot com>
VERY STRANGE JAVASCRIPT ERROR.
61652 by: Duane Douglas <ddouglas at mindspring dot com>
TALKING TEXT
61653 by: vnoto at webtv dot net (VJ Machiavelli)
---
On a related note, what I can do to better format the results of the SEARCH
command? Right now, it's pretty darn hard to read...
As an example, I'd like to list the posting from and subject headers when
it has a match to a search criteria.
TIA,
--
...---===| Terry R. Schussler |===---...
...---===| Chief Investigator |===---...
on visitWebsite yourSelection
coolSites = [ \
#greatSeminars : "http://www.macromediaSEMINARS.com/", \
#directorUniversity: "http://www.directorU.com", \
#freeBehaviors : "http://www.behaviors.com/"]
gotoNetPage coolSites[yourSelection]
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Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 22:23:03 +0100
From: Bill Bedford <billb at mousa.demon.co dot uk>
Subject: Re: Web forms
At 12:35 pm -0700 09/05/01, Mikael Hansen wrote:
>At 7:08 PM +0100 5/9/01, Bill Bedford wrote:
>>I've just seen this from mail from a web form
>>
>>
>>Invalid list server command: list=Brit_Rail-L&Name=Steve+Gre
>>Plain text is required. Please turn off styled text.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>list=Brit_Rail-L&Name=Steve+Gregson&command=subscribe&summit=Send+This+Form
>>
>>
>>How do you get Autoshare to recognise mail from webforms.?
>
>Typically you would use your browser to handle the web form's mailto
>action. In your case, does IE leave the mail to be sent by OE? If
>so, be sure to configure it to send mail in plain text, not HTML.
I have set the web page to send the form in text/plain encoding, by
it seem that I receive an attachment called POSTDAT.ATT
However even if I send the list=Brit_Rail-L line as plain text
Autoshare return the Invalid list server command: message.
--
Bill Bedford
Of course, it is very important to be sober when you take an exam.
Many worthwhile careers in the street-cleansing and fruit-picking
industries have been founded on a lack of understanding of this simple
fact.
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 15:19:45 -0700
From: Administrator <admin at aladdinsys dot com>
Subject: RE: Autoshare problem with MIME encoding for Entourage and OE
Hi there,
We have had an ongoing issue with AutoShare and Microsoft mail
clients Outlook Express (Mac) and Entourage (Mac). I have not
verified the problem on PC versions of these client apps and Eudora
(Mac) does not exhibit the problem. BTW-the problem doesn't appear to
be with AutoShare, but with MSOE/Entourage not interpreting the
message headers correctly.
The problem occurs when a Microsoft Mail client sends an
HTML-formatted message and AutoShare responds. Aaron Melgares
(another admin who is having the same problem) detailed the problem
very well here:
>Scenario ==============================
>An account is set up with an auto-reply using AutoShare 4.2.2. Someone
>sends a message to this account using Entourage or Outlook Express on a
>Macintosh. This message is an HTML-formatted message. Autoshare sends an
>auto-reply. The original message sender receives the auto-reply, but the
>message body appears blank. If the "view source" menu command is selected,
>the text of the message appears in the source window.
>
>Problem ==============================
>The original message has a MIME Content-Type field of:
>
>multipart/alternative; boundary="xxx"
>
>since it contains a both a plain-text and an HTML-formatted part. The
>boundary is a variable string that divides the plain and HTML parts of the
>message body. AutoShare is duplicating this Content-Type field in the
>auto-reply message, even though there is only one plain-text message in the
>body. The boundary string is also duplicated from the original message even
>though there is no boundary and the boundary string does not appear in the
>body of the message itself.
>
>Eudora ignores the content-type and boundary and just displays the text in
>the message window. Entourage and OE do not display anything in the message
>window.
>
>Solution ==============================
>Would it be possible to configure or even update AutoShare to send
>auto-reply messages in response to multipart/alternative messages with a
>text/plain type? I don't think Microsoft will update their clients to fix
>their mail client behavior. I've reviewed RFC 2046 (MIME Media Types) and
>can only conclude that if AutoShare includes a boundary in the Content-Type,
>it should also include the boundary in the body of the message.
It looks like either Microsoft needs to update their mail clients
(not likely to happen), or AutoShare needs a work-around (Mikael?).
Can anyone think of a different solution apart from switching to a
different product to handle autoresponses?
--Eric Kopf
--
Administrator
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Aladdin Systems, Inc., 245 Westridge Drive, Watsonville, CA 95076
Phone: 831.761.6200, Fax: 831.761.6206
Yeah, We're the StuffIt People...
_________________________________________________________________
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Aladdin Web Page: http://www.aladdinsys.com/
Aladdin FTP Site: ftp://ftp.aladdinsys.com/pub/
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Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 08:13:57 -0500
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 22 May 2001
From: Andrew Schmiechen <aschmiechen at discovercolor dot com>
Eric:
Getting fixes to Microsoft developers may not be as difficult as you think.
In the past, I used to be subscribed to the Entourage Talk mailing list.
When I was on the list, the developers and product managers were very
active. It was really a very open environment with a free exchange between
users and developers. Strangely, a very refreshing experience from
Microsoft.
<mailto:Entourage-Talk-on at lists.boingo dot com>
Dan Crevier, I believe, is a product manager on the list. He might be a
good place to start. <Dan.Crevier at pobox dot com>
-A.
> We have had an ongoing issue with AutoShare and Microsoft mail
> clients Outlook Express (Mac) and Entourage (Mac). I have not
> verified the problem on PC versions of these client apps and Eudora
> (Mac) does not exhibit the problem. BTW-the problem doesn't appear to
> be with AutoShare, but with MSOE/Entourage not interpreting the
> message headers correctly.
>
> The problem occurs when a Microsoft Mail client sends an
> HTML-formatted message and AutoShare responds.
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 11:31:54 -0400
From: Steve Wiedemann <swiedem at henninger dot com>
Subject: Everything is an attachment
When a user posts to a list, the plain text message comes through
exactly as sent. If there is an attachment with the message, the plain
text portion of the message turns into a separate attachment. Some
recipients [who don't decode text attachments inline] aren't smart
enough to look at the attachment and don't understand the empty message.
Is there a setting I'm missing somewhere that prevents the text portion
from becoming an attachment? I'm running AutoShare 4.2 on top of EIMS 3.0.3.
--
Steve Wiedemann
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 11:20:52 -0700
From: Administrator <admin at aladdinsys dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 22 May 2001
>Eric:
>
>Getting fixes to Microsoft developers may not be as difficult as you think.
>In the past, I used to be subscribed to the Entourage Talk mailing list.
>When I was on the list, the developers and product managers were very
>active. It was really a very open environment with a free exchange between
>users and developers. Strangely, a very refreshing experience from
>Microsoft.
>
><mailto:Entourage-Talk-on at lists.boingo dot com>
>
>Dan Crevier, I believe, is a product manager on the list. He might be a
>good place to start. <Dan.Crevier at pobox dot com>
>
Hi Andrew,
You are probably right, I used to be on the OE list and the
ex-Emailer folks were always responsive, but I think the existing
base of users with older versions is large. Even if MS updates their
clients, I expect the problem will still occur. If I can fix it at
the server end, that would be great.
--Eric Kopf
BTW: Steve Wiedemann's post "Everything is an attachment" sounds like
a related problem.
--
Administrator
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Aladdin Systems, Inc., 245 Westridge Drive, Watsonville, CA 95076
Phone: 831.761.6200, Fax: 831.761.6206
Yeah, We're the StuffIt People...
_________________________________________________________________
StuffIt Web Page: http://www.stuffit.com/
Aladdin Web Page: http://www.aladdinsys.com/
Aladdin FTP Site: ftp://ftp.aladdinsys.com/pub/
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Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 07:57:24 -0700
From: "Terry R. Schussler" <terry at trevimedia dot com>
Subject: Digest formats
(sorry for the repost, but I'm still hoping to get some feedback here)
How much control is there over the digest format? Currently, I've enabled
the insertion of list submissions (TOC) into the top of the digest. Can I
reverse the chronology? Can I have the TOC shown in a thread format, ala:
---
wwwac Digest 9 May 2001 12:00:00 -0000 Issue 2178
Topics (messages 61651 through 61664):
SPACE ELEVATOR COMES CLOSER
61651 by: vnoto at webtv dot net (VJ Machiavelli)
61654 by: hens <hens at monospace dot com>
61655 by: "Frank D. Greco" <fgreco at CrossroadsTech dot com>
61663 by: Marty Landman <marty at face2interface dot com>
61664 by: Marty Landman <marty at face2interface dot com>
VERY STRANGE JAVASCRIPT ERROR.
61652 by: Duane Douglas <ddouglas at mindspring dot com>
TALKING TEXT
61653 by: vnoto at webtv dot net (VJ Machiavelli)
---
On a related note, what I can do to better format the results of the SEARCH
command? Right now, it's pretty darn hard to read...
As an example, I'd like to list the posting from and subject headers when
it has a match to a search criteria.
TIA,
--
...---===| Terry R. Schussler |===---...
...---===| Chief Investigator |===---...
on visitWebsite yourSelection
coolSites = [ \
#greatSeminars : "http://www.macromediaSEMINARS.com/", \
#directorUniversity: "http://www.directorU.com", \
#freeBehaviors : "http://www.behaviors.com/"]
gotoNetPage coolSites[yourSelection]
end visitWebsite
--
...---===| Terry R. Schussler |===---...
...---===| Chief Investigator |===---...
on visitWebsite yourSelection
coolSites = [ \
#advancedSeminars : "http://www.macromediaSEMINARS.com/", \
#directorUniversity: "http://www.directorU.com", \
#freeBehaviors : "http://www.behaviors.com/"]
gotoNetPage coolSites[yourSelection]
end visitWebsite
From: "Rene Markussen" <rm at silkeborg.bib dot dk>
Subject: Sorry to bother you, i need help setting up a vacation notice service.
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 18:26:24 +0200
i tried reading everything about it i could find nothing helped, i have just
recently learned to use autoshare, and know the basics, can anyone here help
me set do this?
Rene Markussen
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.255 / Virus Database: 128 - Release Date: 17-05-01
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 17:52:07 +0100
From: Bill Bedford <billb at mousa.demon.co dot uk>
Subject: MIME Digests
I've having problems with these digests since upgrading to 4.2.3.
It seems that some mailers are not reading the MIME headers
correctly. The index is OK but each message is displayed without the
headers for that message, so the reader has no indication of who sent
the message. Looking at a digest in OE 5 the full headers show up if
you look at message in View->Source, so it would seem to be a problem
with the decoding of the MIME information.
So far I have identified Outlook Express for Mac and Pegasus Mail as
acting in this way.
--
Bill Bedford
"Early to rise, early to bed, makes a man healthy, wealthy and dead."
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 14:38:45 +0200
From: David Stodolsky <david.stodolsky at socialinformatics dot org>
Subject: Archives stopped working
A newly created list doesn't generate archive files.
The only odd thing was that there was an error in the headers, because I
didn't set an option:
List-Subscribe: <mailto:-on at secureid dot org>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:-off at secureid dot org>
List-Archive: <mailto:autoshare at secureid dot org?body=index%20>
List-Post: <mailto:@secureid.org>
Could this cause the problem? (AS 4.2.2. OS9.1)
dss
--
David S. Stodolsky, PhD PGP: 0x35490763 david.stodolsky at ddf dot dk
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:06:22 -0700
From: David Graham <dgraham at pwiworks dot org>
Subject: Bounce processing using SIMS
I am pulling my hair out trying to get automatic bounce processing with SIMS. Has anyone done this yet, or do I need to switch to EIMS to make this work?
--
David Graham, MIS Manager/Webmaster
Partnerships With Industry
7540 Metropolitan Dr., #105
San Diego, CA 92108
Phone: 619.681.1999
http://www.pwiworks.org
"We assist persons with disabilities to work in the community"
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:08:17 -0700
From: David Graham <dgraham at pwiworks dot org>
Subject: Searchable archives?
I found the mailing list archives but they don't appear to be searchable. Rather than ask questions that have been asked and answered I was hoping to search the archives first. The SEARCH command in autoshare appears to be limited to one word, or am I mis
taken?
Any suggestions?
--
David Graham, MIS Manager/Webmaster
Partnerships With Industry
7540 Metropolitan Dr., #105
San Diego, CA 92108
Phone: 619.681.1999
http://www.pwiworks.org
"We assist persons with disabilities to work in the community"
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 03:32:41 +0200
From: Serge Belleudy-d'Espinose <sam at ijm.jussieu dot fr>
Subject: Re: Bounce processing using SIMS
--============_-1219208085==_ma============
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
At 12:06 -0700 18/06/01, David Graham wrote:
>I am pulling my hair out trying to get automatic bounce processing
>with SIMS. Has anyone done this yet, or do I need to switch to EIMS
>to make this work?
There are many kinds of bounce. Do your hairs a favour and try out
AutoShare, the versatile SIMS companion:
http://www.dnai.com/~meh/autoshare/
Serge
--
\\//\//\// Serge Belleudy-d'Espinose Institut Jacques Monod
// // // http://www.ijm.jussieu.fr/ Univ. Jussieu - Paris
//\//\//\\
--============_-1219208085==_ma============
Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
At 12:06 -0700 18/06/01, David Graham wrote:
<excerpt>I am pulling my hair out trying to get automatic bounce
processing with SIMS. Has anyone done this yet, or do I need to switch
to EIMS to make this work?
</excerpt>
There are many kinds of bounce. Do your hairs a favour and try out
AutoShare, the versatile SIMS companion:
<underline><fontfamily><param>Times_New_Roman</param><color><param>9D9D,1111
,B3B3</param><bigger><bigger> http://www.dnai.com/~meh/autoshare/</bigger></
bigger></color></fontfamily></underline>
Serge
--
\\//\//\// Serge Belleudy-d'Espinose Institut Jacques Monod
// // // http://www.ijm.jussieu.fr/ Univ. Jussieu - Paris
//\//\//\\
--============_-1219208085==_ma============--
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 03:36:36 +0200
From: Serge Belleudy-d'Espinose <sam at ijm.jussieu dot fr>
Subject: Re: Bounce processing using SIMS - oops!
Sorry for the obvious answer, I thought erroneously that the message was from another list. Everybody here sure knows about AutoShare :)
Serge
--
\\//\//\// Serge Belleudy-d'Espinose Institut Jacques Monod
// // // http://www.ijm.jussieu.fr/ Univ. Jussieu - Paris
//\//\//\\
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 00:43:34 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Subject: Hard Crash Running AS Admin
I upgraded from 4.2.1 to 4.2.2 and then to 4.2.3 (sorry for the delay).
However, I find that I'm unable to run Autoshare Admin. After asking
for Facespan Extension, it crashes hard -- the cursor freezes.
Restoring the previous three admin files and running those has the
same effect. I'm not really sure the last time I ran AS Admin, so I
don't know when this started.
This is on a DP G4 450Mhz running OS 9.1.
Any ideas?
--
Randall Gellens Randy at Pensive dot Org
---------------------- (randomly-selected tag) ---------------------
Q: What's a polar bear?
A: A rectangular bear after a coordinate transform.
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 14:32:25 -0700
From: David Graham <dgraham at pwiworks dot org>
Subject: Re: Hard Crash Running AS Admin
At 12:43 AM -0700 6/24/01, Randall Gellens wrote:
>I upgraded from 4.2.1 to 4.2.2 and then to 4.2.3 (sorry for the delay).
>
>However, I find that I'm unable to run Autoshare Admin. After asking for Facespan Extension, it crashes hard -- the cursor freezes. Restoring the previous three admin files and running those has the same effect. I'm not really sure the last time I r
AS Admin, so I don't know when this started.
I think you need to download the latest FaceSpan extension.
- Dave
--
David Graham, MIS Manager/Webmaster
Partnerships With Industry
7540 Metropolitan Dr., #105
San Diego, CA 92108
Phone: 619.681.1999
http://www.pwiworks.org
"We assist persons with disabilities to work in the community"
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:53:25 -0700
From: tuckergperry <tucker at idiom dot com>
Subject: Blank Auto Replies
I am using AutoShare 4.2.1 to forward mail and simultaneously reply
with a bounce message to the sender (we moved to a different domain).
I have been receiving complaints about the bounce messages coming
back blank. It does not happen every time, or even for specific users.
Here is the text of the bounce message file.
--------------------------------------------
[This is an automated bounce message]
***PLEASE NOTE: THE ADDRESS OF THIS USER HAS CHANGED***
***YOUR MESSAGE HAS BEEN FORWARDED. PLEASE DO NOT RESEND***
The domain name for Wired Magazine has changed.
The email you sent to user at wired dot com
has been forwarded to user at wiredmag dot com
and all future messages should go to this new address.
Again, your email has been forwarded so you do not need
to resend your message. We ask that you please update
all future correspondence.
/=forward user at wiredmag dot com
---------------------------------------------
Any help would be appreciated.
Mac OS 9.1
EIMS 3.0.3
AutoShare 4.2.1
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:08:46 -0700
From: Administrator <admin at aladdinsys dot com>
Subject: Re: Blank Auto Replies
>I am using AutoShare 4.2.1 to forward mail and simultaneously reply
>with a bounce message to the sender (we moved to a different
>domain). I have been receiving complaints about the bounce messages
>coming back blank. It does not happen every time, or even for
>specific users.
This is a bug that affects Mac Outlook Express and Entourage users.
The problem occurs when a Microsoft mail client sends an
HTML-formatted message and AutoShare responds. Aaron Melgares
(another admin who is having the same problem) detailed the problem
very well here:
>Scenario ==============================
>An account is set up with an auto-reply using AutoShare 4.2.2. Someone
>sends a message to this account using Entourage or Outlook Express on a
>Macintosh. This message is an HTML-formatted message. Autoshare sends an
>auto-reply. The original message sender receives the auto-reply, but the
>message body appears blank. If the "view source" menu command is selected,
>the text of the message appears in the source window.
>
>Problem ==============================
>The original message has a MIME Content-Type field of:
>
>multipart/alternative; boundary="xxx"
>
>since it contains a both a plain-text and an HTML-formatted part. The
>boundary is a variable string that divides the plain and HTML parts of the
>message body. AutoShare is duplicating this Content-Type field in the
>auto-reply message, even though there is only one plain-text message in the
>body. The boundary string is also duplicated from the original message even
>though there is no boundary and the boundary string does not appear in the
>body of the message itself.
>
>Eudora ignores the content-type and boundary and just displays the text in
>the message window. Entourage and OE do not display anything in the message
>window.
>
>Solution ==============================
>Would it be possible to configure or even update AutoShare to send
>auto-reply messages in response to multipart/alternative messages with a
>text/plain type? I don't think Microsoft will update their clients to fix
>their mail client behavior. I've reviewed RFC 2046 (MIME Media Types) and
>can only conclude that if AutoShare includes a boundary in the Content-Type,
>it should also include the boundary in the body of the message.
I have not verified the problem on PC versions of these client apps
and Eudora (Mac) does not exhibit the problem. The problem is not
with AutoShare, but with MSOE/Entourage not interpreting the message
headers correctly. Either Microsoft needs to update their mail
clients (not likely to happen), or AutoShare needs a work-around in a
future update. At this point there is no solution except to switch to
an alternative autoresponder - or ask people to stop using Microsoft
mail clients ;-} .
--Eric K
--
Administrator
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Aladdin Systems, Inc., 245 Westridge Drive, Watsonville, CA 95076
Phone: 831.761.6200, Fax: 831.761.6206
Yeah, We're the StuffIt People...
_________________________________________________________________
StuffIt Web Page: http://www.stuffit.com/
Aladdin Web Page: http://www.aladdinsys.com/
Aladdin FTP Site: ftp://ftp.aladdinsys.com/pub/
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 13:44:48 -0700
From: David Graham <dgraham at pwiworks dot org>
Subject: Bounce processing using SIMS [Second post]
At 12:06 PM -0700 6/18/01, I wrote:
>I am pulling my hair out trying to get automatic bounce processing with SIMS. Has anyone done this yet, or do I need to switch to EIMS to make this work?
OK... so maybe I'll try again with a bit more info.
The bounce message arrives in the proper folder and is processed by Autoshare but the recipient is not removed from the list. I have bounce processing turned on, and hard unsubscribe is turned on. I'm assuming that a hard unsubscribe should automatically
remove bounces that fail with a "550 Unknown user" message - is this correct?
Please help me ... my company (a non-profit) cannot afford to buy commercial list server software and I don't have the resources to manually handle bounce addresses for this list.
The full bounce text follows:
O T
P I 02-07-2001 20:32:27 0000 NULL NULL
R D 02-07-2001 20:32:27 0000 lists.pwiworks.org postmaster
Subject: Undeliverable mail: [ANN] Test
From: MAILER-DAEMON at lists.pwiworks dot org
To: postmaster at lists.pwiworks dot org
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 13:32:27 -0700
Message-Id: <AUTOS.0000041334-41344 at lists.pwiworks dot org>
X-Mailer: Stalker Internet Mail Server 1.8b8
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;
boundary="_=receipt=_=41344=_"
--_=receipt=_=41344=_
Content-Type: text/plain
Failed to deliver your message to nobody at pwiworks dot org:
SMTP: Address rejected by host
Host 'mail.pwiworks.org' says:
550 Unknown user.
--_=receipt=_=41344=_
Content-Type: message/delivery-status
Reporting-MTA: dns; lists.pwiworks.org
Final-Recipient: rfc822; nobody at pwiworks dot org
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0
--_=receipt=_=41344=_
Content-Type: text/rfc822-headers
Received: by lists.pwiworks.org (Stalker Internet Mail Server 1.8b8) with FILE id S.0000041333 for <e-news.m at lists.pwiworks dot org>; Mon, 02 Jul 2001 13:32:23 -0700
Received: from [66.3.32.114] (HELO [192.168.0.16]) by lists.pwiworks.org (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b8) with ESMTP id S.0000041321 for <e-news at lists.pwiworks dot org>; Mon, 02 Jul 2001 13:31:58 -0700
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 13:31:47 -0700
Reply-To: E-NEWS <listmaster at lists.pwiworks dot org>
Errors-To: postmaster at lists.pwiworks dot org (BounceAccount)
Precedence: bulk
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:autoshare at lists.pwiworks dot org?subject=unsubscribe%20E-News>
List-Owner: listmaster at lists.pwiworks dot org (List Master)
List-Id: <E-News.lists.pwiworks.org>
List-Software: AutoShare 4.2.3 by Mikael Hansen
To: e-news at lists.pwiworks dot org (Subscribers of E-News)
From: E-NEWS <1218050331>
Subject: [ANN] Test
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Message-Id: <512639913738851699783 at lists.pwiworks dot org>
--_=receipt=_=41344=_--
--
David Graham, MIS Manager/Webmaster
Partnerships With Industry
7540 Metropolitan Dr., #105
San Diego, CA 92108
Phone: 619.681.1999
http://www.pwiworks.org
"We assist persons with disabilities to work in the community"
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 23:12:09 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Subject: Re: Hard Crash Running AS Admin
At 2:32 PM -0700 6/24/01, David Graham wrote:
> At 12:43 AM -0700 6/24/01, Randall Gellens wrote:
>>I upgraded from 4.2.1 to 4.2.2 and then to 4.2.3 (sorry for the delay).
>>
>>However, I find that I'm unable to run Autoshare Admin. After
>> asking for Facespan Extension, it crashes hard -- the cursor
>> freezes. Restoring the previous three admin files and running
>> those has the same effect. I'm not really sure the last time I ran
> AS Admin, so I don't know when this started.
>
> I think you need to download the latest FaceSpan extension.
I'm using the one that came with AS 4.2.2. Is there a later one?
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 10:36:36 -0700
From: David Graham <dgraham at pwiworks dot org>
Subject: Re: Hard Crash Running AS Admin
At 11:12 PM -0700 7/3/01, Randall Gellens wrote:
>I'm using the one that came with AS 4.2.2. Is there a later one?
Yep. Here's the link for v3.5.2:
<http://facespan.com/downloads/DownloadExtras/FaceSpanExtension3.5.2.sit>
- Dave
--
David Graham, MIS Manager/Webmaster
Partnerships With Industry
7540 Metropolitan Dr., #105
San Diego, CA 92108
Phone: 619.681.1999
http://www.pwiworks.org
"We assist persons with disabilities to work in the community"
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 11:46:07 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Subject: Re: Searchable archives?
At 12:08 PM -0700 6/18/01, David Graham wrote:
> I found the mailing list archives but they don't appear to be
> searchable. Rather than ask questions that have been asked and
> answered I was hoping to search the archives first. The SEARCH
> command in autoshare appears to be limited to one word, or am I mis
> taken?
>
> Any suggestions?
I'm not sure if you're asking about AS archives in general, or for
this list. If the later, try going to
<http://www.pensive.org/mailing_lists/Archives/AutoShare-Talk/index.html>.
You can then use your browser to search any individual archive. Not
as convenient as would be desired, of course.
--
Randall Gellens Randy at Pensive dot Org
---------------------- (randomly-selected tag) ---------------------
#Random Tag
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 12:13:12 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Subject: Re: Hard Crash Running AS Admin
At 10:36 AM -0700 7/4/01, David Graham wrote:
> Yep. Here's the link for v3.5.2:
>
> <http://facespan.com/downloads/DownloadExtras/FaceSpanExtension3.5.2.sit>
That did the trick -- thanks!
--
Randall Gellens Randy at Pensive dot Org
---------------------- (randomly-selected tag) ---------------------
Every successful person has had failures but repeated failure is no
guarantee of eventual success.
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 12:20:55 -0700
From: David Graham <dgraham at pwiworks dot org>
Subject: Re: Searchable archives?
At 11:46 AM -0700 7/4/01, Randall Gellens wrote:
>I'm not sure if you're asking about AS archives in general, or for this list. If the later, try going to <http://www.pensive.org/mailing_lists/Archives/AutoShare-Tal
onvenient as would be desired, of course.
I was referring to this list, but it would be good to know how to set up a better searchable archive for my own AS lists. I realize that I can browse through each archive manually, but that really doesn't cut it - it's just too ineffecient. Has anyone put
together an applescript solution for keyword searching AS archives?
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Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 12:30:38 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Subject: Re: Searchable archives?
At 12:20 PM -0700 7/4/01, David Graham wrote:
> t would be good to know how to set up a better searchable archive
> for my own AS lists. I realize that I can browse through each
> archive manually, but that really doesn't cut it - it's just too
> ineffecient. Has anyone put
> together an applescript solution for keyword searching AS archives?
I thought there was a way to use the MacOS' built-in indexes (the
same as what Sherlock uses), but I don't recall the details. (I
guess trying to find details on this would be a good use of such a
search facility.)
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Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 23:56:54 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Hard Crash Running AS Admin
First of all, a happy 4th of July to you all.
At 12:43 AM -0700 6/24/01, Randall Gellens wrote:
>I upgraded from 4.2.1 to 4.2.2 and then to 4.2.3 (sorry for the delay).
Nah, I should be sorry for mine. Having returned from my vacation to
Europe in the 2nd half of June (stopped by for a day in Manhattan on
the way back, so you may have seen my Death Valley t-shirt on the NBC
Today show Saturday morning 7-8am), I now find that the Pascal
compiler that I use has matured much compared to how it was two
months ago. Sure was easy back then slipping into the summer weather
catching up on my book reading (e.g. Just For Fun by Linus Torvalds).
Between that and getting a G4 at home, things got comfortable. Still
are...
>However, I find that I'm unable to run Autoshare Admin. After
>asking for Facespan Extension, it crashes hard -- the cursor
>freezes. Restoring the previous three admin files and running those
>has the same effect. I'm not really sure the last time I ran AS
>Admin, so I don't know when this started.
>
>This is on a DP G4 450Mhz running OS 9.1.
>
>Any ideas?
At 12:13 PM -0700 7/4/01, Randall Gellens wrote:
>At 10:36 AM -0700 7/4/01, David Graham wrote:
>
>> Yep. Here's the link for v3.5.2:
>>
>> <http://facespan.com/downloads/DownloadExtras/FaceSpanExtension3.5.2.sit>
>
>That did the trick -- thanks!
Good to hear. (No problems here though using the 2.1 extension on 9.1.)
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 23:58:55 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Bounce processing using SIMS [Second post]
At 1:44 PM -0700 7/2/01, David Graham wrote:
>At 12:06 PM -0700 6/18/01, I wrote:
>>I am pulling my hair out trying to get automatic bounce processing
>>with SIMS. Has anyone done this yet, or do I need to switch to EIMS
>>to make this work?
>
>OK... so maybe I'll try again with a bit more info.
>
>The bounce message arrives in the proper folder and is processed by
>Autoshare but the recipient is not removed from the list. I have
>bounce processing turned on, and hard unsubscribe is turned on. I'm
>assuming that a hard unsubscribe should automatically
>remove bounces that fail with a "550 Unknown user" message - is this correct?
That is basically correct, although a 550 line tends to include the
e-mail address in question, which AutoShare needs.
>Please help me ... my company (a non-profit) cannot afford to buy
>commercial list server software and I don't have the resources to
>manually handle bounce addresses for this list.
>
>The full bounce text follows:
>
>O T
>P I 02-07-2001 20:32:27 0000 NULL NULL
>R D 02-07-2001 20:32:27 0000 lists.pwiworks.org postmaster
>
>Subject: Undeliverable mail: [ANN] Test
>From: MAILER-DAEMON at lists.pwiworks dot org
>To: postmaster at lists.pwiworks dot org
>Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 13:32:27 -0700
>Message-Id: <AUTOS.0000041334-41344 at lists.pwiworks dot org>
>X-Mailer: Stalker Internet Mail Server 1.8b8
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;
> boundary="_=receipt=_=41344=_"
If I remember correctly (but I'm still in a Rip Van Winkle mode, so
please forgive me). Randy who knows about those things once suggested
to me that "multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;" bounces
should not really be treated as bounces and as such be excempt from
bounce handling. Randy?
Date: 10 Jul 01 15:51:22 -0500
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: Problems with signups
I've only been using Autoshare for about 7 years with no problems. Now
all of a sudden I'm stuck on something simple (I hope).
I just created a new list. When I attempt to subscribe to the list
everything works as it should, and the subscribed person gets a message
saying they have been subscribed. BUT (he screams in frustration) the new
subscriber's name does not get added to the list. Subscribers get added
correctly to other lists, and all other things seem to work correctly for
other lists. I can send mail to subscribers added using the Autoshare
Admin program and the mail gets through just fine. I JUST CAN'T ADD
SUBSCRIBERS using either <list>-on (yes the g is set), nor with a set of we
b pages that work just fine to subscribed folks to any other list.
Comments and thoughts much appreciated. I'm running 4.2.1
Many thanks for any suggestions.....
Chuck Boody
Analyst/Programmer
ISD 270
======
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 16:23:21 -0500
From: Chris Dowling <cdowling at lists.education.wisc dot edu>
Subject: Re: Problems with signups
Hi Chuck,
It sounds like the "/=sub" token is missing from your "sub.<list>" file.
Regards,
Chris
At 03:51 PM 7/10/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>I've only been using Autoshare for about 7 years with no problems. Now
>all of a sudden I'm stuck on something simple (I hope).
>
>I just created a new list. When I attempt to subscribe to the list
>everything works as it should, and the subscribed person gets a message
>saying they have been subscribed. BUT (he screams in frustration) the new
>subscriber's name does not get added to the list. Subscribers get added
>correctly to other lists, and all other things seem to work correctly for
>other lists. I can send mail to subscribers added using the Autoshare
>Admin program and the mail gets through just fine. I JUST CAN'T ADD
>SUBSCRIBERS using either <list>-on (yes the g is set), nor with a set of
>web pages that work just fine to subscribed folks to any other list.
>
>Comments and thoughts much appreciated. I'm running 4.2.1
>
>Many thanks for any suggestions.....
>
>Chuck Boody
>Analyst/Programmer
>ISD 270
>======
~~~~~
Chris Dowling, Network Services Manager
CIMC, School of Education, UW-Madison
225 N. Mills Street, Madison, WI 53706
voice(608-263-4339), fax(608-262-6050)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 06:45:43 +0200
From: "Th. J. van Hoesel" <Th.J.v.Hoesel at thema-media dot nl>
Subject: multiple domains DISPAIR
How do I setup AutoShare / SIMS to run for multiple domains, in such
a manner, that I can run listmaster@domain1, but also another
listmaster@domain2 and sure, different listservers. And the same
listname, for different domains: news@domain1 and news at domain2.. dot .
And I know how to handle SIMS, how to create all kinds of accounts
and how to set up a SIMS router.
DOM1-news, DOM2-news, DOM1-listmaster etc....
I have tried so hard, but it does not seem to work.
I did do some work , I once sended a message to the list and returned
the message, that I needed to subcribe first (That was OK at that
moment, because I new, I was not subcribed) and included a X-RFC how
to subscribe: send an e-mail to autoshare@domain1
Does someone have a complet setup reference page on the internet
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==============================================
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de andere manier van communiceren
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+31-38-4603078 (F)
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mailto:Th.J.v.Hoesel at thema-media dot nl
==============================================
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 06:48:40 +0200
From: "Th. J. van Hoesel" <Th.J.v.Hoesel at thema-media dot nl>
Subject: 550 <autoshare@dom1>... User Unknown
How to solve this?
Sorry. The user of the recipient address is not valid.
550 <autoshare@dom1>... User unknown
Please contact Listmaster@dom1
--
Th. van Hoesel
==============================================
Thema Media internet communicatie
de andere manier van communiceren
Lynnerkamp 48
8014 DE Zwolle
+31-38-4603033 (T)
+31-38-4603078 (F)
http://www.thema-media.nl
mailto:Th.J.v.Hoesel at thema-media dot nl
==============================================
Date: 11 Jul 01 08:33:55 -0500
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: Re: Problems with signups
Reply to: Re: Problems with signups
Color me embarrassed. Of course :-< Many thanks....
Chuck Boody
Analyst/Programmer
ISD 270
======
Chris Dowling wrote:
>Hi Chuck,
>
>It sounds like the "/=sub" token is missing from your "sub.<list>" file.
>
>Regards,
>Chris
>
>At 03:51 PM 7/10/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>>I've only been using Autoshare for about 7 years with no problems. Now
>>all of a sudden I'm stuck on something simple (I hope).
>>
>>I just created a new list. When I attempt to subscribe to the list
>>everything works as it should, and the subscribed person gets a message
>>saying they have been subscribed. BUT (he screams in frustration) the
new
>>subscriber's name does not get added to the list. Subscribers get added
>>correctly to other lists, and all other things seem to work correctly
for
>>other lists. I can send mail to subscribers added using the Autoshare
>>Admin program and the mail gets through just fine. I JUST CAN'T ADD
>>SUBSCRIBERS using either <list>-on (yes the g is set), nor with a set of
>>web pages that work just fine to subscribed folks to any other list.
>>
>>Comments and thoughts much appreciated. I'm running 4.2.1
>>
>>Many thanks for any suggestions.....
>>
>>Chuck Boody
>>Analyst/Programmer
>>ISD 270
>>======
>
>~~~~~
>Chris Dowling, Network Services Manager
>CIMC, School of Education, UW-Madison
>225 N. Mills Street, Madison, WI 53706
>voice(608-263-4339), fax(608-262-6050)
>
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