Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 23:45:33 -0500
From: Jeffrey Folk <jfolk at qzoneinc dot com>
Subject: Re: Why do digests post to the list?
Mikael Hansen wrote:
> >Ah, but just looked to see if I had forgotten something else... The list.d
> >and list.m mail accounts were missing! Sorry for the silly question ;-)
>
> Now I'm afraid I don't understand. How could the digests be mailed to
> the list when the list.d mail account was missing?
>
> ** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
> ** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/>
I don't understand it myself. There was no listmaster e-mail address entered
in the list stuff field. The only e-mail account that was created in EIMS was
the list account. I hadn't created the list.d and list.m mail accounts. Posts
to the list from the form page worked fine. When 12:00 rolled around the
digests for my other lists were sent to digest recipients but the new list got
them posted to the list e-mail account. Creating the list.d and list.m
accounts fixed everything though
Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 23:00:33 -0700
Subject: how to roll web archives?
From: "Timo Ochmann" <ochmann at bigfoot dot com>
how do i need to set up AS so that web archives roll over automatically
(i.e. after 20 messages or after 7 days)?
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 01:38:05 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: how to roll web archives?
At 23:00 -0700 10/3/99, Timo Ochmann wrote:
>how do i need to set up AS so that web archives roll over automatically
>(i.e. after 20 messages or after 7 days)?
The automated web archives are rolled over when the standard text
and/or html archives are rolled over. In the Admin, Command-L, click
the list, click the List button, find the Messages field, see the
balloon help.
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 22:01:20 -0700
Subject: Different Domains, yet the same
From: "Michael J. Vinca" <mjv2411 at ritvax.isc.rit dot edu>
Well, I've switched all my lists back to text format for now, until I can
get back to Rochester. But an old question comes up that I never got around
to asking.
Is there a way for Autoshare to realize that @rit.edu and at ritvax.rit dot edu
and @ritvax.isc.rit.edu are all the same. So if mjv2411 at rit dot edu was
subscribed with post abilities, and mjv2411 at ritvax.isc.rit dot edu tried to
post, it would work?
Michael J. Vinca
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 15:27:17 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: supressing attachments
At 5:27 PM +0100 on 9/20/99, James Berriman wrote:
> At 10:15 am -0400 20/9/99, Charles L. Martin wrote:
> >I have tried and tried, but to no effect. I think you just have to live
> >with it.
> >
> >On 9/19/99 9:27 AM, Richard M. Pavonarius said:
> >
> > >Is there a way to prevent dimwits from sending attachments to an AutoShare
> > >mailing list?
>
> Set a maximum message size (i.e. a maximum number of lines), and
> anything larger will be rejected. This catches most attachments. You
> will find this under "lines" in the list configuration options.
>
>
I used that for awhile, but it kept on rejecting long announcements that I
wanted to post myself. Some announcements are more than 300k, while many
attachments are under 300k. The best thing would be to have an option to
suppress attachments. I'm hoping that will be implemented in the future.
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Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:49:11 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Subject: "Project Script Could Not Be Loaded (-43)
I am unable to run AutoShare Admin. When I launch it I get an error
dialog that says "Unable to continue because project script could not
be loaded (-43)". This happens on a Powermac 7600 and a PowerBook
G3, neither of which run AutoShare, but both of which are on the
EtherTalk network with the system that does. I used to be able to
run AutoShare Admin, but can't anymore and I'm not sure at which
point I stopped being able to run it.
AutoShare Admin does run on the system with Autoshare.
--
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of stupidity attained by the bourgeois. --Gustave Flaubert
Date: 13 Oct 99 11:04:34 -0500
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: Two Questions
After all these years we are finally getting around to using some features =
of Autoshare I have not used before. These two questions have arisen.
1) How is the timing of the delivery of digests and tips list items =
calculated? For example: 7 days from what point in time?
2) Can the settings for delivery of digests and tips lists be set on an =
individual list basis?
Thanks for the answers. It's a measure of how good this program really is =
that I have had to ask no questions for more than 4 years.
Chuck Boody
Analyst/Programmer
ISD 270
=======
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 17:17:50 -0400
From: Michael Ball <mball at icepark dot com>
I am new to autoshare and was curious to know if there is a more efficient
alternative to the one by one entering of new subscribers? Is there a way I
can subscribe many people all at once? Thank you.
Michael Ball
Assistant General Manager
Charlottesville Ice Park
Subject: Re: Two Questions
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:55:38 -0400
From: Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
On 10/13/99 12:04 PM, Chuck Boody said:
>1) How is the timing of the delivery of digests and tips list items
>calculated? For example: 7 days from what point in time?
From the moment you given the command, more or less.
>2) Can the settings for delivery of digests and tips lists be set on an
>individual list basis?
No that I know of. But I know nothing about multiple preferences, which
might permit this.
Charles L. Martin
clmartin at theOmbudsman dot com
http://www.theOmbudsman.com/Martin_Law/
Alice: ³The King seems so prejudiced.²
King: ³Thank you Alice. That¹s what makes me so eminently qualified to =
be
Judge.²
Alice in Wonderland, Lewis Carroll
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:26:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Michael J. Vinca" <MJV2411 at ritvax.isc.rit dot edu>
Subject: Re:
A nice loop in Applescript always did the trick for me. I would have had a
nervous breakdown if I typed all 800 people in by hand. Depending on how many
people you are typing in, it might save you more time to learn Applescript
even if you have never used it before.
>I am new to autoshare and was curious to know if there is a more efficient
>alternative to the one by one entering of new subscribers? Is there a way I
>can subscribe many people all at once? Thank you.
>Michael Ball
>Assistant General Manager
>Charlottesville Ice Park
>** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
>** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/>
Michael J. Vinca
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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 00:39:21 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Different Domains, yet the same
At 22:01 -0700 10/6/99, Michael J. Vinca wrote:
>Is there a way for Autoshare to realize that @rit.edu and at ritvax.rit dot edu
>and @ritvax.isc.rit.edu are all the same. So if mjv2411 at rit dot edu was
>subscribed with post abilities, and mjv2411 at ritvax.isc.rit dot edu tried to
>post, it would work?
I'm afraid it wouldn't at this time. Such a fuzzy lookup would call
for domains being sorted backwards or something like that.
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 00:31:01 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: supressing attachments
At 15:27 -0700 10/8/99, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>I used that for awhile, but it kept on rejecting long announcements that I
>wanted to post myself.
No, no, no. It just isn't so :-)
>Some announcements are more than 300k, while many attachments are under 300k.
A body over 300K?!
> The best thing would be to have an option to
>suppress attachments. I'm hoping that will be implemented in the future.
It already is. It's just that MIME is a pretty complex beast.
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 23:46:59 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Two Questions
At 11:04 -0500 10/13/99, Chuck Boody wrote:
>After all these years we are finally getting around to using some
>features of Autoshare I have not used before. These two questions
>have arisen.
>
>1) How is the timing of the delivery of digests and tips list items
>calculated? For example: 7 days from what point in time?
In the specified number of days at the specified time.
>2) Can the settings for delivery of digests and tips lists be set
>on an individual list basis?
No. The next version does however offer a Send Digest command, so
it'll be possible with a little AppleScripting.
>Thanks for the answers. It's a measure of how good this program
>really is that I have had to ask no questions for more than 4 years.
Thanks :-)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 23:36:09 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Batching new subscribers
At 17:17 -0400 10/13/99, Michael Ball wrote:
>I am new to autoshare and was curious to know if there is a more efficient
>alternative to the one by one entering of new subscribers? Is there a way I
>can subscribe many people all at once? Thank you.
At 12:26 -0400 10/14/99, Michael J. Vinca wrote:
>A nice loop in Applescript always did the trick for me. I would have had a
>nervous breakdown if I typed all 800 people in by hand. Depending on how many
>people you are typing in, it might save you more time to learn Applescript
>even if you have never used it before.
I couldn't have said it better :-) [I have incidently wasted much of
my time recently looking into if AppleShare IP 6.2 could be
AppleScripted to create users, create groups and add users to groups.
It can't, and that sucks, especially since the Users & Groups control
panel does it so nicely.]
Depending upon how the new subscriber data is formatted, you may also
want to look into the 'Drag and drop onto AutoShare' section towards
the end of the documentation.
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 23:17:42 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: "Project Script Could Not Be Loaded (-43)
At 12:49 -0700 10/10/99, Randall Gellens wrote:
>I am unable to run AutoShare Admin. When I launch it I get an error
>dialog that says "Unable to continue because project script could
>not be loaded (-43)". This happens on a Powermac 7600 and a
>PowerBook G3, neither of which run AutoShare, but both of which are
>on the EtherTalk network with the system that does. I used to be
>able to run AutoShare Admin, but can't anymore and I'm not sure at
>which point I stopped being able to run it.
>
>AutoShare Admin does run on the system with Autoshare.
As AppleScript dictionaries must be read locally, you need at least
the AutoShare dictionary file in the same folder as the remote Admin.
The AutoShare dictionary file is included in the released archive.
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 02:10:33 +0100
From: James Berriman <james at acoustic.demon.co dot uk>
At 5:17 pm -0400 13/10/99, Michael Ball wrote:
>I am new to autoshare and was curious to know if there is a more efficient
>alternative to the one by one entering of new subscribers? Is there a way I
>can subscribe many people all at once? Thank you.
There are three steps to heaven.
1. Create a text file containing a list of addresses.
2. Give the file the same name as the list you want to update.
3. Drop the file on the AutoShare application.
AutoShare automatically generates "subscribe" messages for each new
address and processes them in the normal way.
( :-]) James
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:24:23 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Subject: Re: "Project Script Could Not Be Loaded (-43)
At 11:17 PM -0700 10/14/99, Mikael Hansen wrote:
> As AppleScript dictionaries must be read locally, you need at least
> the AutoShare dictionary file in the same folder as the remote Admin.
> The AutoShare dictionary file is included in the released archive.
I have a resedit (rsrc/RSED) file called "autoshare" in the same
folder as the Admin utility.
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 00:33:11 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Mac OS 9 compatibility
I installed Mac OS 9 on Saturday, October 23, and AutoShare appears
to be doing just fine. As AutoShare uses the File Manager
extensively, I have checked the 4.0 PowerPC version against Alsoft's
Mac OS 9 File Manager Compatibility Checker, listing the status as
"Appears Compatible".
Alsoft's Mac OS 9 File Manager Compatibility Checker is available from
<http://www.alsoft.com/>
Her are some of my favorite Mac OS 9 links:
Apple, Mac OS 9
<http://www.apple.com/macos/>
Apple Technote 1176, Mac OS 9
<http://devworld.apple.com/technotes/tn/tn1176.html>
Apple Mac OS 9 TIL, lists all relevant Mac OS 9 TILs
<http://til.info.apple.com/techinfo.nsf/artnum/n60489>
MacFixIt, Troubleshooting Mac OS 9
<http://www.macfixit.com/reports/macos9.shtml>
Macintouch, Mac OS 9 Special Report
<http://www.macintouch.com/m90.html>
MacWEEK/MacCentral, Mac OS 9 Special Report
<http://www.maccentral.com/macos9.shtml>
The Macintosh News Network, Mac OS 9 Special Report
<http://www.macnn.com/reports/os9.shtml>
Version Tracker's Mac OS 9 software update page
<http://www.versiontracker.com/systems/system9.shtml>
Mac OS 9 Special Report: Compatibility
<http://www.macintouch.com/m90_compatibility.html>
ShareWay IP technology used to provide filesharing services over TCP/IP
<http://www2.opendoor.com/shareway/macos9.html>
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 06:40:42 -0500
From: Paul DuBois <paul at snake dot net>
Subject: Re: Mac OS 9 compatibility
>I installed Mac OS 9 on Saturday, October 23, and AutoShare appears
>to be doing just fine. As AutoShare uses the File Manager
>extensively, I have checked the 4.0 PowerPC version against Alsoft's
>Mac OS 9 File Manager Compatibility Checker, listing the status as
>"Appears Compatible".
AutoShare works fine for me, too. The real issue here for me wasn't
AutoShare at all, but SIMS. Up until the point of one of the recent
Mac OS 9 betas, SIMS would lock up when you established an SMTP connection
to it. I'm not sure whether it was a change in a Mac OS 9 beta that
fixed the problem, or the recent update to SIMS itself (probably the
latter, I suppose), but it works just fine now.
--
Paul DuBois, paul at snake dot net
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 21:09:00 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Admin <-> AutoShare via the Internet
Having the Admin talk with the AutoShare server across the Internet
is a very nice way of putting AppleScript over TCP/IP in Mac OS 9 to
work. I have tested the new OS feature, and it takes little more than
clicking a few checkboxes to go from AppleTalk to include the TCP/IP
option:
1. on the server Mac, open File Sharing and click in the checkbox
entitled 'Enable Program Linking clients to connect over TCP/IP',
2. on the client Mac in the Admin, select Command-E, click the
Remote button, click the IP checkbox, enter the server IP address,
select AutoShare.
3. there is no 3...
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:48:02 -0600
From: Charlie Swiszcz <cjs at mcad dot edu>
Subject: Mailb**k and brackets
Greetings,
During the process of testing a new AutoShare (version 4.0 ) list service
configured to utilize mailback (keyword returned in subject field). It was
noted that <netscape.net> webmail rewrites the subject field of a simple
"Reply" so the original message subject is enclosed in brackets.
Example Rewrite> RE: [ Confirmation Request - b440d974 ].
The brackets apparently intefer with AutoShare's ability to recognize the
keyword response. AutoShare treats the the confirmation response as a new
post and sends the client a "Confirmation Request" in lieu of releasing the
original post for distribution. If the brackets are removed Autoshare
handles the transaction normally. It follows that if brackets are added to
a Confirmation request subject field, Autoshare will send a non-webmail
client (Eudora) a new confirmation request in response as well.
I was hoping that I would be able to utilize the process extender feature
to allow a review of the subject field before a request confirmation
message was moved from the Mail Back folder but this does not seem to be
possible. Has anyone been down this path before who might get me on track?
thank you
cjs
Charles Swiszcz
Director of Network Resources
Minneapolis College of Art & Design
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:23:36 -0500
From: Claude Errera <errera at bungie dot org>
Subject: How to disable that built in Precedence: bulk filter?
Hello.
New to the list... I've gone through some recent archives, but
nothing popped up. Apologies if this has been asked recently.
We have a list running nicely, on a solid, stable machine,
but it's behind a firewall. (The list owner wants to keep
local control, so moving the list out is not really an option.)
We want to add a web archive... but this isn't possible behind
the firewall. However, we came up with the simple idea of
having a second listserver running outside the wall, with
a single subscriber-the first list. NoAck, no mail (to avoid
a mail loop), allowed to post (sort of moot, since it's been
set as an open list)... with web archives turned on. Tests
show that it would work perfectly... except the incoming
files have a Precedence: bulk header (on purpose), and the
web archive list filters these out.
Is there any way to turn this built-in filter off? All other
options for getting the web files out from behind the firewall
require someone's actual (ongoing) labor... which we're trying
to avoid.
All help greatly appreciated.
Claude
errera at bungie dot org
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:33:32 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: How to disable that built in Precedence: bulk filter?
At 22:23 -0500 10/31/99, Claude Errera wrote:
>Is there any way to turn this built-in filter off?
I would suggest using a process extender of type filter.
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:16:37 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Mailb**k and brackets
At 16:48 -0600 10/31/99, Charlie Swiszcz wrote:
>During the process of testing a new AutoShare (version 4.0 ) list service
>configured to utilize mailback (keyword returned in subject field). It was
>noted that <netscape.net> webmail rewrites the subject field of a simple
>"Reply" so the original message subject is enclosed in brackets.
>
>Example Rewrite> RE: [ Confirmation Request - b440d974 ].
>
>The brackets apparently intefer with AutoShare's ability to recognize the
>keyword response.
I'll look into a solution for this. Thanks for pointing it out.
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:21:55 -0600
From: Charlie Swiszcz <cjs at mcad dot edu>
Subject: Re: Mailb**k and brackets
Mikael,
thank you - and - fyi
This challenge is not limited to [] enclosing the subject field. These
miscellaneous wraps of the original subject field "Confirmation Request"
also spawned new confirmation requests.
Subject: Re: ! Confirmation Request b443178b !
Subject: Re: A Confirmation Request b443157b A
Subject: Re: A Confirmation Request b4431754 !
cjs
>At 16:48 -0600 10/31/99, Charlie Swiszcz wrote:
>
>>During the process of testing a new AutoShare (version 4.0 ) list service
>>configured to utilize mailback (keyword returned in subject field). It was
>>noted that <netscape.net> webmail rewrites the subject field of a simple
>>"Reply" so the original message subject is enclosed in brackets.
>>
>>Example Rewrite> RE: [ Confirmation Request - b440d974 ].
>>
>>The brackets apparently intefer with AutoShare's ability to recognize the
>>keyword response.
>
>I'll look into a solution for this. Thanks for pointing it out.
>
>
>
>** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
>** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/>
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:28:38 +0100
From: Mats Anderling <mand2 at licr.ki dot se>
Subject: No headers or footers
I have a listuser whos messages newer show the header and footer that
is supposed to be added to all messages posted to the list. Postings
from other users works fine.
The only thing I know is that this user uses some SUN workstation (Unix).
Any ideas why?
best regards
--
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System Administrator
Ludwig Institute For Cancer Research, Stockholm Branch
Box 240
S-171 77 Stockholm
Phone: +46 (0)8 728 7007
Fax: +46 (0) 8 33 28 12
Mobile: +46 (0) 705 16 16 53
email: mand at licr.ki dot se
http://www.licr.ki.se
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 09:53:01 -0800
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: How to disable that built in Precedence: bulk filter?
At 7:33 AM -0800 on 11/1/99, Mikael Hansen wrote:
> At 22:23 -0500 10/31/99, Claude Errera wrote:
>
> >Is there any way to turn this built-in filter off?
>
> I would suggest using a process extender of type filter.
>
I've done some process extenders, but I'm not sure what you mean by "of
type filter".
Isn't there an easier way to do this? It's my list that is behind the
firewall, and Claude has helped me out be setting up a list on his server
to collect the archives. The problem is , none of the posts are being
accepted by his list. Is there something I can do on my list which would
get rid of the "Precedence: Bulk header" when sending out? Preferable is
for his list to accept it, but I'm without a clue how to do that. Any help
is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Bill
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Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 06:30:20 -0800
From: Matthew Hill <happytwo at milepost1 dot com>
Subject: Web attachements
Hi
I would like to send web pages to a list. The seem to come across as a
very narrow page.
Any ideas on how to do this?
THanks
Matthew
Date: 2 Nov 99 11:53:32 -0800
Subject: Using command tokens with accounts other than the AutoSahre
From: "Ray de Groat" <ray at degroat dot com>
I want people to be able to be able use command tokens from accounts I
create in addition to the AutoShare account.
Is there a way to rename or create an alias for the AutoShare account?
That way someone could send an email to <listserve@domain>, or
<list-proc@domain> and it work just as if they had sent the email to
<AutoShare@domain>
I tried this, but command tokens, such as list, come back with "/=list (bad
token)".
Thanks in advance for any info!
Ray de Groat
ray at degroat dot com
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:40:49 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: How to disable that built in Precedence: bulk filter?
At 09:53 -0800 11/2/99, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>At 7:33 AM -0800 on 11/1/99, Mikael Hansen wrote:
>
>
> > At 22:23 -0500 10/31/99, Claude Errera wrote:
> >
> > >Is there any way to turn this built-in filter off?
> >
> > I would suggest using a process extender of type filter.
I am btw working on adding more functionality into this filter type.
>I've done some process extenders, but I'm not sure what you mean by "of
>type filter".
Each process extender is of a given type, e.g. Before Processing,
After Processing and Filter. The type refers to at where it kicks in
during the main processing of the AutoShare server. See the
documentation, which outlines each type, along with a general
introduction to process extenders.
>Isn't there an easier way to do this?
It is just too risky making it a built-in feature to disable the
precedence header. If an individual can write a process extender
which does it, there is also reason to believe that the same
individual is aware of the risk involved with removing the header. As
such a calculated risk and so less of a risk.
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:44:12 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: No headers or footers
At 12:28 +0100 11/2/99, Mats Anderling wrote:
>I have a listuser whos messages newer show the header and footer
>that is supposed to be added to all messages posted to the list.
>Postings from other users works fine.
>The only thing I know is that this user uses some SUN workstation (Unix).
>Any ideas why?
My guess is some lack of being MIME-compliant. What do others say?
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:48:48 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Web attachements
At 06:30 -0800 11/2/99, Matthew Hill wrote:
>I would like to send web pages to a list. The seem to come across as a
>very narrow page.
>Any ideas on how to do this?
Any more narrow that the width shown in e-mails?
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:55:49 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Using command tokens with accounts other than the AutoSahre
At 11:53 -0800 11/2/99, Ray de Groat wrote:
>I want people to be able to be able use command tokens from accounts I
>create in addition to the AutoShare account.
>
>Is there a way to rename or create an alias for the AutoShare account?
>
>That way someone could send an email to <listserve@domain>, or
><list-proc@domain> and it work just as if they had sent the email to
><AutoShare@domain>
>
>I tried this, but command tokens, such as list, come back with "/=list (bad
>token)".
>
>Thanks in advance for any info!
You can use "request addresses" (there is a section in the
documentation describing these) to make it easier for your
subscribers.
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 16:39:02 -0800
From: Matthew Hill <happytwo at milepost1 dot com>
Subject: Re: Web attachements
Yes they were very narrow. Not sure what i did but it is working
correctly.
Matthew
Mikael Hansen wrote:
> At 06:30 -0800 11/2/99, Matthew Hill wrote:
>
> >I would like to send web pages to a list. The seem to come across as a
> >very narrow page.
> >Any ideas on how to do this?
>
> Any more narrow that the width shown in e-mails?
>
> ** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
> ** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/>
--
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 22:13:20 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: 4.1b1 uploaded
I figured it was about time, so here it is.
<ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/>
Note that betas by their very nature are risky business. A readme
document has been included in the archive to spell out the details of
4.1b1. Thanks :-)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 16:27:53 -0500
From: Jerry Thompson <mlists at ppdirect dot com>
Subject: Re: 4.1b1 uploaded
At 10:13 PM -0800 11/3/99, Mikael Hansen scribbled in cyberspace:
>Note that betas by their very nature are risky business. A readme
>document has been included in the archive to spell out the details of
>4.1b1. Thanks :-)
Ironically, the readme document in the directory says "There is no
public beta at this time." Maybe that's to throw people off the
track of listserv bliss. :-)
Downloading now -- I love betas.
Best regards,
Jerry
Date: 04 Nov 99 17:07:52 -0600
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: RE: 4.1b1 uploaded
Reply to: RE: 4.1b1 uploaded
Mikael,
Do you still need us to mantain secondary beta access sites??
Chuck Boody
Analyst/Programmer
ISD 270
=======
Mikael Hansen wrote:
>I figured it was about time, so here it is.
>
> <ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/>
>
>Note that betas by their very nature are risky business. A readme =
>document has been included in the archive to spell out the details of =
>4.1b1. Thanks :-)
>
>
>** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:37:30 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: RE: 4.1b1 uploaded
At 16:27 -0500 11/4/99, Jerry Thompson wrote:
>Ironically, the readme document in the directory says "There is no
>public beta at this time." Maybe that's to throw people off the
>track of listserv bliss. :-)
I didn't even think about that arcane document :-)
>Downloading now -- I love betas.
Good to hear. Let me know if the new stuff triggers any bugs.
At 17:07 -0600 11/4/99, Chuck Boody wrote:
>Mikael,
>
>Do you still need us to mantain secondary beta access sites??
If some people complain about access to ftp.dnai.com before b2 comes
around, I'd appreciate it. In any event, I hope for a fairly brief
beta, aimed merely at fixing newly introduced bugs.
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:47:27 +0100
From: Mats Anderling <mand2 at licr.ki dot se>
Subject: Re: Re: No headers or footers
>
>
>At 12:28 +0100 11/2/99, Mats Anderling wrote:
>
> >I have a listuser whos messages newer show the header and footer
> >that is supposed to be added to all messages posted to the list.
> >Postings from other users works fine.
> >The only thing I know is that this user uses some SUN workstation (Unix).
> >Any ideas why?
>
>My guess is some lack of being MIME-compliant. What do others say?
>
Well, I had not put in enough effort to pin down the problem. Users
(yes they are more than one now!) that does not get the headers or
footers included all uses styled text.
Here follows the contents of two example messages. "Test 1" in plain
text and "test 2" in styled.
Subject: test 1
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
Message-Id: <917425981339950894936 at licr.ki dot se>
<x-flowed>My header :-)
test 1
My footer :-)
!!!
</x-flowed>
Subject: test 2
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="============_-1270047891==_ma============"
Message-Id: <502457252604087980357 at licr.ki dot se>
<x-html><!x-stuff-for-pete base="" src="" id="0"><!doctype html
public "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN">
<html><head><style type="text/css"><!--
blockquote, dl, ul, ol, li { margin-top: 0 ; margin-bottom: 0 }
--></style><title>test 2</title></head><body>
<div><font size="+3" color="#FF0000"><b>Test 2</b></font></div>
</body>
</html>
</x-html>
Any ideas on how to solve this? Can you have an alternative
header/footer to be added to "styled" messages? I guess it has
something to to with the "Content-Type:"
/Mats
Subject: Why 2 confirmation requests?
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 14:45:55 -0500
From: Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
Is there any obvious reason I would get two confirmation requests instead
of one? I have set most lists to require confirmation to get a list of
subscribers. When I send a review message to one of these lists, I get
the usual confirmation request. I have the list configured to recognize
the confirmation in the subject, and I just click on reply and send. Then
I get a second confirmation request. I do the same thing again, then the
command is executed. If this question makes sense, why could this happen?
Charles L. Martin
clmartin at theOmbudsman dot com
http://www.theOmbudsman.com/Martin_Law/
Alice: ³The King seems so prejudiced.²
King: ³Thank you Alice. That¹s what makes me so eminently qualified to =
be
Judge.²
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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 21:55:48 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: AutoShare 4.1 released
Version 4.1 has been uploaded to
<http://www.dnai.com/~meh/download/AutoShare/>
No more anonymous ftp, as my ISP will shortly be shutting it down.
4.1 differs from 4.1b1 in a number of minor details.
From: "Jesse Williams Proudman" <lists at ninewire dot com>
Subject: RE: AutoShare 4.1 released
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:00:59 -0800
You need a mirror?
Jesse Williams Proudman - NineWire Production
http://www.ninewire.com <-> Jesse at ninewire dot com
Innovative and Creative Web Design and Hosting
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mikael Hansen [mailto:meh at dnai dot com]
> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 9:56 PM
> To: Subscribers of AutoShare-Talk
> Subject: AutoShare 4.1 released
>
>
> Version 4.1 has been uploaded to
>
> <http://www.dnai.com/~meh/download/AutoShare/>
>
> No more anonymous ftp, as my ISP will shortly be shutting it down.
>
> 4.1 differs from 4.1b1 in a number of minor details.
>
>
> ** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
> ** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/>
>
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:42:07 +0100
From: HOnza Koudelka <koudelka at appleklub dot cz>
Subject: Re: AutoShare 4.1 released
>Version 4.1 has been uploaded to
>
> <http://www.dnai.com/~meh/download/AutoShare/>
>
>No more anonymous ftp, as my ISP will shortly be shutting it down.
European TEN-155 connection:
ftp://ftp.appleklub.cz/pub/Internet/AutoShare_41.sit
ftp://ftp.appleklub.cz/pub/Internet/AutoShareCompleteAdmin_41.sit
Also downloadable with Hotline Client from hotline.appleklub.cz
HOnza
--
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(_( --------------------------------|-----------------------------
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Date: 15 Nov 99 08:47:33 -0600
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: RE: AutoShare 4.1 released
Reply to: RE: AutoShare 4.1 released
Autoshare 4.1 is available by mail.
Sent mail to
mailit at stumail.hopkins.k12.mn dot us
with "Autoshare4.1" in the subject line (no quotes).
Chuck Boody
Analyst/Programmer
ISD 270
=======
Mikael Hansen wrote:
>Version 4.1 has been uploaded to
>
> <http://www.dnai.com/~meh/download/AutoShare/>
>
>No more anonymous ftp, as my ISP will shortly be shutting it down.
>
>4.1 differs from 4.1b1 in a number of minor details.
>
>
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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 14:09:36 -0800
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare 4.1 released
At 9:55 PM -0800 on 11/14/99, Mikael Hansen wrote:
> Version 4.1 has been uploaded to
>
> <http://www.dnai.com/~meh/download/AutoShare/>
>
> No more anonymous ftp, as my ISP will shortly be shutting it down.
>
> 4.1 differs from 4.1b1 in a number of minor details.
>
This is now US Mirrored at:
<http://www.pascal-central.com/autoshare/autoshare.41.bin>
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:29:44 -0500
From: Carter Bing <carter at videomac.ncat dot edu>
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 17 Nov 1999
Greetings,
I have been having a MAJOR problem with a spammer who is using
bogus addresses to send junk mail to my list. I was wondering if there was
a way to filter messages based on the subject of the mail.
Thanks,
Carter Bing
carter at drum.ncat dot edu
-----------------------------------
Carter Bing TeleConference Manager
336-334-7614 voice
http://drum.ncat.edu
Date: 18 Nov 99 15:42:27 -0600
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: Vacation List woes
After all these years of running Autoshare I finally am setting up some =
vacation service accounts.
I followed the documentation found in the Autoshare 4.1 Sample Process =
Extenders/Before Processing Folder/Vacation folder. I left Mailbacks out =
of the picture to simplify the test (after having the problem mentioned =
below).
Everything works BUT (don't we all hate that word? ;-> ):
1) (This is the important one) Messages sent to the vacation account that =
are to be acted upon don't appear to be trashed and continue to be =
processed by the vacation account. So, if you send the message "on" you =
get copies of the response to on repeatedly until you go in and catch the =
item in the filed mail folder and throw it out. In a similar manner a =
message to doc to update the returned document appears to be responded to =
repeatedly.
2) If you use mailbacks they don't appear to work. For example, a =
mailback in the "on" document will reach the sender of the on document, =
but the reply won't go through. I think that is because the 'On" command =
has already been set so the reply can't get through.
3) You must use a doc command without mailback for the reason mentioned =
in 2 above.
4) There is a slight error in the documentation (vacation.html) found in =
the in the above folder. Sentence 2 under Configuring User Accounts =
reminds us to create a folder with the user's account name (etc.). But it =
doesn't say where. It probably should even though I suspect this is =
mentioned elsewhere in Mikael's other documentation.
Any thoughts?
I've got a few things to check out (like turning the vacation notices off =
and then on again. That may be the problem given how this who thing =
started out). But, I certainly haven't much left to try.
Mikael? Others??
Thanks.
=
Chuck Boody
Analyst/Programmer
ISD 270
=======
Date: 18 Nov 99 16:01:35 -0600
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: RE: Vacation List woes
Reply to: RE: Vacation List woes
Further information on the stuff below: I grabed a couple of the massages =
as they came through the Filed Mail Folder. It appears the the response =
to the "on" or "off" messages are sent to the test account (we'll call it "=
test" from here on). But, since that account is set to save a copy and =
send a copy to the Filed Mail folder we have a loop as the message passes =
through the filed mail folder a second, third etc. time. So, what did I =
miss in setting up things? Clearly the Vacation account is not killing =
these looped messages as I think it should.....
Chuck Boody
Analyst/Programmer
ISD 270
=======
Chuck Boody wrote:
>After all these years of running Autoshare I finally am setting up some =
>vacation service accounts.
>
>I followed the documentation found in the Autoshare 4.1 Sample Process =
>Extenders/Before Processing Folder/Vacation folder. I left Mailbacks out =
of the =
>picture to simplify the test (after having the problem mentioned below).
>
> Everything works BUT (don't we all hate that word? ;-> ):
>1) (This is the important one) Messages sent to the vacation account =
that =
>are to be acted upon don't appear to be trashed and continue to be =
processed by =
>the vacation account. So, if you send the message "on" you get copies of =
the =
>response to on repeatedly until you go in and catch the item in the filed =
mail folder =
>and throw it out. In a similar manner a message to doc to update the =
returned =
>document appears to be responded to repeatedly.
>
>2) If you use mailbacks they don't appear to work. For example, a =
>mailback in the "on" document will reach the sender of the on document, =
but the reply =
>won't go through. I think that is because the 'On" command has already =
been set so =
>the reply can't get through.
>
>3) You must use a doc command without mailback for the reason mentioned =
in =
>2 above.
>
>4) There is a slight error in the documentation (vacation.html) found in =
>the in the above folder. Sentence 2 under Configuring User Accounts =
reminds us to =
>create a folder with the user's account name (etc.). But it doesn't say =
where. =
>It probably should even though I suspect this is mentioned elsewhere in =
Mikael's =
>other documentation.
>
>Any thoughts?
>
>I've got a few things to check out (like turning the vacation notices off =
>and then on again. That may be the problem given how this who thing =
started out). =
> But, I certainly haven't much left to try.
>
>Mikael? Others??
>
>Thanks.
> =
>Chuck Boody
>Analyst/Programmer
>ISD 270
>=======
>
>
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Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 17 Nov 1999
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:00:41 -0500
From: Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
Check out the mailback feature in the documentation. I have not had a
single episode of spam because of it.
On 11/18/99 4:29 PM, Carter Bing said:
> I have been having a MAJOR problem with a spammer who is using
>bogus addresses to send junk mail to my list. I was wondering if there was
>a way to filter messages based on the subject of the mail.
Charles L. Martin
clmartin at theOmbudsman dot com
http://www.theOmbudsman.com/Martin_Law/
Alice: ³The King seems so prejudiced.²
King: ³Thank you Alice. That¹s what makes me so eminently qualified to =
be
Judge.²
Alice in Wonderland, Lewis Carroll
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:31:33 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Vacation List woes
At 15:42 -0600 11/18/99, Chuck Boody wrote:
>1) (This is the important one) Messages sent to the vacation
>account that are to be acted upon don't appear to be trashed and
>continue to be processed by the vacation account. So, if you send
>the message "on" you get copies of the response to on repeatedly
>until you go in and catch the item in the filed mail folder and
>throw it out. In a similar manner a message to doc to update the
>returned document appears to be responded to repeatedly.
I'm not sure why this would happen. The vacation account should be
configured as a regular auto-response service (plus the process
extender that is).