Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:57:10 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: Another web archive mystery
At 10:55 AM -0800 on 1/11/99, Michael C. Gilbert wrote:
> Hi --
>
> Well, I've checked the path and I've set my preferences correctly, I think,
> but no HTML archive is being created for a list I just started....
>
> I just read the recent thread on this issue, but to no avail. Can anyone
> tell me what steps can I take to troubleshoot this?
>
> TIA
>
I have discovered that the web archiving initialization has not always
worked right away. However, if you have the preferences and path set, the
web-based archives should show up sooner or later. For some of my lists,
when they didn't show up, I would reset the web path, quit Autoshare and
restart it, and probably some other things which I cannot remember, and
eventually they started showing up. That doesn't mean that anything I did
made them show up... it just might be a time lag. I'm not sure. Anyway,
that's how it's worked for me in the past.
On the other hand, you might be experiencing an entirely different problem.
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Subject: Re: Er...date problem?
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 99 19:24:54 -0600
From: Jon & Janelle Gardner <jgardner at kairosnet dot com>
>> What's up with this:
>>
>> Sent: 1/5/19 2:03 AM (by AutoShare)
>> Received: 1/1/99 6:09 AM
>>
>> Using AutoShare 2.3 or 2.4, it apparently thinks that 1999 is actually
>> 1919 for some reason (that, or it's taken 80 years for the email to get
>> to me). Any clue as to why?
>
>No clue. Do you see the Sent date in the log, directly in the
>processed message file or in a client mailer once it has been through
>mail servers?
Here's the date header:
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:17:14 +0
As far as I can tell, this is a Claris Emailer 1.1v3 problem. It looks
like it's expecting a two-digit year, so it's only grabbing the first two
digits, so the messages look like they were sent in 1919.
Jon
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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:47:32 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Another web archive mystery
At 12:57 -0700 1/11/99, Camelot Administrator wrote:
> I have discovered that the web archiving initialization has not always
> worked right away. However, if you have the preferences and path set, the
> web-based archives should show up sooner or later.
It should work right away though. And it does for me :-)
At 12:50 -0800 1/11/99, Michael C. Gilbert wrote:
> In fact, I just checked and, for reasons unknown, the html files are now in
> place. One problem: They don't go back to the start of the list last week.
>
> Is there a way to re-generate them?
Not easily, I think.
If your standard archives were configured to HTML from the beginning,
you can, carefully, copy and paste the contents of previous .html and
.toc files into the Current.html and Current.toc files, and the
automated web archives become fully updated once the next list
contribution comes around.
If not, you need to "re-post" the list contributions if you can find
a way to do it, but without letting the mail server process the
outgoing message files. It'll take some imagination and manual
playing around.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:51:28 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Archive Searching
At 12:49 -0700 1/11/99, Camelot Administrator wrote:
> I know this request goes beyond the limits of a listserver, but it really
> goes hand-in-hand with it when you think about it.
> What would be truly awesome is some kind of search page which allows
> someone to search the archive files. If this came from a 3rd party
> utility, that would be cool, and even better if this were built into
> Autoshare some how.
See autoshare2.cgi and form2.html in the 3.0.3 archive. You would
have to adjust very little at the beginning of the script code.
autoshare2.cgi uses the Search Applescript command in AutoShare. No
index is built, but it's still fairly fast.
Has anyone tried this by any chance?
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 04:27:59 -0800
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Problems in OS 8.5.1
I bit the bullet today and upgraded my server to OS 8.5.1, and now I'm
having problems with Autoshare. Anyone else experience this?
I was using v3.0.3, and Autoshare would never acknowledge a quit (not by
Apple Events or by manual Cmd-Q or menu Quit). It wouldn't even let me do
a force quit (would hang the system instead).
I'm now using Autoshare 3.0.4b1. Autoshare allows me to quit now... in
fact, it likes to quit. After running for awhile, it quits by itself.
Consistently.
Any suggestions?
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 04:38:12 -0800
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Et tu Autoshare Admin?
I'm having big headaches with Autoshare Admin as well. I don't know if
it's a 8.5.1 related problem, or if it's just not compatible with the
latest Autoshare, or what.
I run Autoshare Admin 3.0.3, and when I go to choose Where under the
Configuration menu, it literally takes minutes before it pulls up Where is
Autoshare? window (used to take just a few seconds). The ball just spins
and spins. Then I choose Remote, and select Autoshare, and then it takes
minutes before it finishes processing my input (again, where it used to
take just a few seconds). Then when I choose Lists, Admin tells me it
forgot where Autoshare is. Ack! I just told you where Autoshare is (I'm
thinking). So I tell it again, again it takes minutes to process, and then
I choose Lists, and it says it forgot again.
Basically, I'm unable to use Admin at this point.
Any suggestions? Please...
Thanks,
Bill
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 05:31:06 -0800
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Update on my Autoshare woes...
Okay, it turns out that it was just a coincidence that today I installed
8.5, and today Autoshare went crazy on me. Upon further examination, it
turns out that it's the old problem with large files. I found a 1.1 Meg
file in the Filed Mail folder, and that was causing Autoshare to die. For
some reason, it was also causing Autoshare Admin to mis-communicate with
Autoshare. When I removed the large file, both Autoshare and Admin began
behaving again. When I drop the file back in for processing, the problems
start again.
This is the same problem I had the last time someone sent a large file to
the list. Back then I was on a 7200/100 running OS 8.1, and now I'm on a
4400/200 running OS 8.5 (fresh install). The problem seems to be
consistent across machines and operating systems (and throughout several
versions of Autoshare). Help.
Bill
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:21:27 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Update on my Autoshare woes...
At 05:31 -0800 1/15/99, Camelot Administrator wrote:
> Okay, it turns out that it was just a coincidence that today I installed
> 8.5, and today Autoshare went crazy on me. Upon further examination, it
> turns out that it's the old problem with large files. I found a 1.1 Meg
> file in the Filed Mail folder, and that was causing Autoshare to die.
Could you StuffIt the file and send it to me at meh at dnai dot com, so I
can reproduce it? Thanks.
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:03:02 -0800
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: Update on my Autoshare woes...
At 8:21 PM -0800 on 1/14/99, Mikael Hansen wrote:
> At 05:31 -0800 1/15/99, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>
> > Okay, it turns out that it was just a coincidence that today I installed
> > 8.5, and today Autoshare went crazy on me. Upon further examination, it
> > turns out that it's the old problem with large files. I found a 1.1 Meg
> > file in the Filed Mail folder, and that was causing Autoshare to die.
>
> Could you StuffIt the file and send it to me at meh at dnai dot com, so I
> can reproduce it? Thanks.
>
Darn! Someone came up and distracted me, and I ended up sending off the
attachment to you, but forgot to change the addressing, so it got directed
to the mailing list. A thousand apologies if this ends up getting
processed.
<sigh>
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 17:06:18 -0800
From: Matthew Hill <happytwo at milepost1 dot com>
Subject: Question on subscribers
Is it possible with autoshare to set up something where only certain
users may subscribe to a certain list? Such as client 1 can only
subscribe to list 1,
client 2 to list 2? Or would this have to be checked with some kind of
CGI script on a web server.
Another question is can a user be required to user there number or some
other type of ID.
Thanks
Matthew
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 00:22:13 -0800
From: Matthew Hill <happytwo at milepost1 dot com>
Subject: Logs and Digests
I have the new beta version of autoshare. I am still not getting the
digests or logs. any ideas???
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 12:33:28 +0000
From: James Berriman <james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk>
Subject: Re: Question on subscribers
At 01:06 +0000 17/1/1999, Matthew Hill wrote:
>Another question is can a user be required to user there number or some
>other type of ID.
You could set up mailbacks for list contributions - to ensure that the
poster is who they say they are.
( :-]) James
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 16:54:12 +0100
From: Jochen Haeberle <listen at MIDRAS dot de>
Subject: MailBacks and Netscape
Hi,
how do I get MailBack confirmations to work with Netscape?
Netscape seems to insert some lines to the beginning of any eMail it posts,
therefore I am unable to include the MailBack-Info in the first line of a
message.
What can I do about this? Is there anything I could do in AutoShare? I
guess AutoShare has no alternative to the confirmation info in the first
line of a message? I did not find an option on that.
Another thing... is it possible to have some commands confirmed while
others (for example the default answer of an autoreply-account) need not be
confirmed?
I know you can configure this for lists, but what's for other accounts?
Regards
Jochen
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 12:28:09 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Logs and Digests
At 00:22 -0800 1/17/99, Matthew Hill wrote:
> I have the new beta version of autoshare. I am still not getting the
> digests or logs. any ideas???
There's a bug in 3.0.3 causing this. I recommend downloading 3.0.4b1.
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 12:29:18 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Question on subscribers
At 17:06 -0800 1/16/99, Matthew Hill wrote:
> Is it possible with autoshare to set up something where only certain
> users may subscribe to a certain list?
It's possible with a process extender of type Before Processing. This
is certainly an advanced approach, but you can start out by dragging
various simple archive samples onto the Script Editor to get feel for
what's all about.
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 12:30:12 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: MailBacks and Netscape
At 16:54 +0100 1/17/99, Jochen Haeberle wrote:
> What can I do about this? Is there anything I could do in AutoShare? I
> guess AutoShare has no alternative to the confirmation info in the first
> line of a message? I did not find an option on that.
The section on 'Mail-back confirmations' in the 'Moving on' part of
the documentation says that "the first line in the body (or in the
subject if you add the letter J to the Misc Stuff field) displays the
confirmation key".
All so-called miscellaneous stuff in the Admin is placed on the first
two selections on the Preferences menu, Cmd-M (Miscellaneous) and
Cmd-J (More Miscellaneous) respectively. The latter takes you to the
window having the Misc Stuff field.
> Another thing... is it possible to have some commands confirmed while
> others (for example the default answer of an autoreply-account) need not be
> confirmed?
> I know you can configure this for lists, but what's for other accounts?
The basic approach for mail-back enabled accounts, described in the
above 'Mail-back confirmations' section, is to let messages arrive in
the Mail Back folder (Cmd-K in the Admin) rather than the Filed Mail
folder.
You are not likely to prefer to use the Filed Mail folder for
mail-back enabled accounts, unless you use the 'Unknown accounts'
feature, whose section in the documentation introduces the /=mailback
token, also described in the 'Auto-response tokens' section, in order
to enable mail-backs for auto-replies.
The 'Mail-back confirmations' section furthermore describes how to
configure the autoshare@ account down to the command level for
enabling and disabling mail-backs. Find the Mail-back field in the
List window, following Cmd-L in the Admin and clicking the List
button.
The above is advanced stuff of course and takes some getting used to.
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 11:08:48 -0800
From: Mark Hartman <mh-list at harthaven dot com>
Subject: Re: MailBacks and Netscape
The only way I have found to make mailbacks work 99+% reliably is to
use the subject field for the mailback code rather than the body.
Here's the message I send with mailbacks:
>To: **name deleted**
>Subject: Command confirmation request 21825898
>
>
>Hi there. This is an automated response from the list server
>at harthaven.com.
>
>I've received the request below that claims to be from you. Since
>I can get requests from many places, some of which are unsecure,
>before I act on this request I need to confirm that it actually came
>from you. You probably sent it either via e-mail or via a web page.
>
>In order to confirm that it's actually you who wants to subscribe
>or unsubscribe, please just reply to this message. The body of the
>message will be ignored (in fact, you can delete it if you want to),
>but whatever you do, don't change the subject line, because it contains
>the code that lets me remember what exactly I'm supposed to do.
>
>If you change your mind, or if this request didn't come from you,
>then please just ignore this message.
>---
In fact, I've been trying to get away from paying attention to the body
of a message as much as possible, since many mailers assume that they
can play with the body text as much as they want, which messes up
AutoShare to no end.
At 7:54 AM -0800 1/17/1999, Jochen Haeberle wrote:
>Hi,
>
>how do I get MailBack confirmations to work with Netscape?
>Netscape seems to insert some lines to the beginning of any eMail it posts,
>therefore I am unable to include the MailBack-Info in the first line of a
>message.
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 22:58:25 +0100
From: Jochen Haeberle <listen at MIDRAS dot de>
Subject: Re: MailBacks (was: Re: MailBacks and Netscape)
Hi again,
this seems to be a different subject to me now...
At 12:30 Uhr -0800 17.01.1999, Mikael Hansen wrote:
>At 16:54 +0100 1/17/99, Jochen Haeberle wrote:
>
>> Another thing... is it possible to have some commands confirmed while
>> others (for example the default answer of an autoreply-account) need not be
>> confirmed?
>> I know you can configure this for lists, but what's for other accounts?
>
>The basic approach for mail-back enabled accounts, described in the
>above 'Mail-back confirmations' section, is to let messages arrive in
>the Mail Back folder (Cmd-K in the Admin) rather than the Filed Mail
>folder.
>
>You are not likely to prefer to use the Filed Mail folder for
>mail-back enabled accounts, unless you use the 'Unknown accounts'
>feature, whose section in the documentation introduces the /=mailback
>token, also described in the 'Auto-response tokens' section, in order
>to enable mail-backs for auto-replies.
>
>The 'Mail-back confirmations' section furthermore describes how to
>configure the autoshare@ account down to the command level for
>enabling and disabling mail-backs. Find the Mail-back field in the
>List window, following Cmd-L in the Admin and clicking the List
>button.
>
>The above is advanced stuff of course and takes some getting used to.
I have a MailBack autoreply account running perfectly well now using the
Mail Back folder.
I am experimenting with the vacation service script of yours. What I want
to have is a confirmation MailBack for every command to the service but an
instant default autoreply!
What about lists? Does the list specific option work for itself or dos it
still require the autoshare account to point to the Mail Back folder?
If so, where can I find the general setting for MailBack in the Admin?
Thanks
Jochen
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 22:58:22 +0100
From: Jochen Haeberle <listen at MIDRAS dot de>
Subject: Re: MailBacks and Netscape
Hi Mikael,
thanks for your prompt help! A great tool you gave to us!
At 12:30 Uhr -0800 17.01.1999, Mikael Hansen wrote:
>At 16:54 +0100 1/17/99, Jochen Haeberle wrote:
>
>> What can I do about this? Is there anything I could do in AutoShare? I
>> guess AutoShare has no alternative to the confirmation info in the first
>> line of a message? I did not find an option on that.
>
>The section on 'Mail-back confirmations' in the 'Moving on' part of
>the documentation says that "the first line in the body (or in the
>subject if you add the letter J to the Misc Stuff field) displays the
>confirmation key".
Oh! I did not see that, yet - sorry for that one. Now I can have users
reply to a MailBack-confirmation using Netscape.
But the answer I get is not readable in Netscape. The Subject is correct,
but there seems to be no message body. If you look at the "Message source"
you find the original message and some signs of "multipart-boundaries".
What the heck is going on here? I guessed it is a MIME-problem (we are
using german system software and Netscapes here). I tried every setting of
the MIME-Type in AutoShare but nothing changed this behavior.
Jochen
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 16:47:02 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: MailBacks (was: Re: MailBacks and Netscape)
At 22:58 +0100 1/17/99, Jochen Haeberle wrote:
> I have a MailBack autoreply account running perfectly well now using the
> Mail Back folder.
> I am experimenting with the vacation service script of yours. What I want
> to have is a confirmation MailBack for every command to the service but an
> instant default autoreply!
I think I got a little confused the first time around when talking
about auto-replies. You probably mean 'subject' rather than 'command'
and would like to configure auto-reply mail-backs based on the
subject.
AutoShare acts here in a way that is not intended, as mail-backs are
determined based on whether or not there's a /=mailback token in
default document only (I don't think this is documented...). I feel
confident that this is something that James has been bugging me about
several times actually. It'll be different in 3.0.4b2, which will
look for the token in the document for the subject in question. Keep
in mind that auto-reply accounts must point to the Filed Mail folder
for the token to kick in.
> What about lists? Does the list specific option work for itself or dos it
> still require the autoshare account to point to the Mail Back folder?
> If so, where can I find the general setting for MailBack in the Admin?
Mail-backs for lists work in a straight-forward when the account
points to the Mail Back folder. If you're using the Filed Mail
folder, put the letter h in the List Stuff field (Cmd-L in the Admin,
click a list if needed, click the Yet more list button).
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 02:23:13 +0000
From: James Berriman <james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk>
Subject: Re: MailBacks (was: Re: MailBacks and Netscape)
At 21:58 +0000 17/1/1999, Jochen Haeberle wrote:
>I have a MailBack autoreply account running perfectly well now using the
>Mail Back folder.
>I am experimenting with the vacation service script of yours. What I want
>to have is a confirmation MailBack for every command to the service but an
>instant default autoreply!
I suggested the same thing a while ago. I'd like to have /=mailback tokens
recognised on an individual file-by-file basis. Currently, mailbacks are
enabled for all documents in a folder if the default file has a /=mailback
token.
( :-]) James
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 02:30:10 +0000
From: James Berriman <james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk>
Subject: Re: MailBacks (was: Re: MailBacks and Netscape)
At 00:47 +0000 18/1/1999, Mikael Hansen wrote:
>AutoShare acts here in a way that is not intended, as mail-backs are
>determined based on whether or not there's a /=mailback token in
>default document only (I don't think this is documented...). I feel
>confident that this is something that James has been bugging me about
>several times actually. It'll be different in 3.0.4b2, which will
>look for the token in the document for the subject in question. Keep
>in mind that auto-reply accounts must point to the Filed Mail folder
>for the token to kick in.
Oops! I posted my last message before reading yours. Your feeling of
confidence was evidently well placed. Apologies for bugging you yet
again... :-)
Thanks, Mikael. Looking forward to b2!
( :-]) James
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:32:18 +0000
From: Bill Bedford <billbpm at mousa.demon.co dot uk>
Subject: Re: Logs and Digests
At 12:28 pm -0800 17/1/99, Mikael Hansen wrote:
>At 00:22 -0800 1/17/99, Matthew Hill wrote:
>
>> I have the new beta version of autoshare. I am still not getting the
>> digests or logs. any ideas???
>
>There's a bug in 3.0.3 causing this. I recommend downloading 3.0.4b1.
>
I've having the same problem, dispite ungrading to 3.0.4b1.
This is from the last log I took by hand
AutoShare version is 3.0.4b1
Next log in 32200:33:50
Next digest in 32200:33:50
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:45:43 +0100
From: Jochen Haeberle <listen at MIDRAS dot de>
Subject: Re: MailBacks (was: Re: MailBacks and Netscape)
Hi,
At 16:47 Uhr -0800 17.01.1999, Mikael Hansen wrote:
>At 22:58 +0100 1/17/99, Jochen Haeberle wrote:
>
>> I have a MailBack autoreply account running perfectly well now using the
>> Mail Back folder.
>> I am experimenting with the vacation service script of yours. What I want
>> to have is a confirmation MailBack for every command to the service but an
>> instant default autoreply!
>
>I think I got a little confused the first time around when talking
>about auto-replies. You probably mean 'subject' rather than 'command'
>and would like to configure auto-reply mail-backs based on the
>subject.
Hmm, Do you think so? I followed the documentation for the vacation-script.
There it says one should enable MailBack confirmations for the vacation
account. So I pointed the account to the MailBack Folder and it worked.
I guess I will have to look into the new version...
>AutoShare acts here in a way that is not intended, as mail-backs are
>determined based on whether or not there's a /=mailback token in
>default document only (I don't think this is documented...). I feel
>confident that this is something that James has been bugging me about
>several times actually. It'll be different in 3.0.4b2, which will
>look for the token in the document for the subject in question. Keep
>in mind that auto-reply accounts must point to the Filed Mail folder
>for the token to kick in.
>
>> What about lists? Does the list specific option work for itself or dos it
>> still require the autoshare account to point to the Mail Back folder?
>> If so, where can I find the general setting for MailBack in the Admin?
>
>Mail-backs for lists work in a straight-forward when the account
>points to the Mail Back folder. If you're using the Filed Mail
>folder, put the letter h in the List Stuff field (Cmd-L in the Admin,
>click a list if needed, click the Yet more list button).
The ballon help for ths token says it enables MailBacks for list
contributions... this is not what I want... I want confirmations for
list-commands (some of them).
Jochen
From: "Suarez, William" <WSuarez at netsilicon dot com>
Subject: RE: Logs and Digests
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:08:48 -0500
I can confirm that 3.04b1 does infact resolve the digest and logs issues.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mikael Hansen [mailto:meh at dnai dot com]
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 1999 3:28 PM
To: autoshare-talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk
Subject: Re: Logs and Digests
At 00:22 -0800 1/17/99, Matthew Hill wrote:
> I have the new beta version of autoshare. I am still not getting the
> digests or logs. any ideas???
There's a bug in 3.0.3 causing this. I recommend downloading 3.0.4b1.
** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/>
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 06:27:43 -0800
From: Matthew Hill <happytwo at milepost1 dot com>
Subject: Re: Logs and Digests
I have also upgraded to 3.0.4b1. Yet still no logs or digests.
matthew
Bill Bedford wrote:
>
> At 12:28 pm -0800 17/1/99, Mikael Hansen wrote:
>
> >At 00:22 -0800 1/17/99, Matthew Hill wrote:
> >
> >> I have the new beta version of autoshare. I am still not getting the
> >> digests or logs. any ideas???
> >
> >There's a bug in 3.0.3 causing this. I recommend downloading 3.0.4b1.
> >
>
> I've having the same problem, dispite ungrading to 3.0.4b1.
>
> This is from the last log I took by hand
>
> AutoShare version is 3.0.4b1
> Next log in 32200:33:50
> Next digest in 32200:33:50
>
> ** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
> ** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/>
--
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:16:55 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Logs and Digests
At 13:32 +0000 1/18/99, Bill Bedford wrote:
> I've having the same problem, dispite ungrading to 3.0.4b1.
At 06:27 -0800 1/18/99, Matthew Hill wrote:
> I have also upgraded to 3.0.4b1. Yet still no logs or digests.
This will happen if you have reconfigured your log and digest times
in 3.0.3, but haven't done so in 3.0.4b1. Reconfigure both times in
3.0.4b1 with values _different_ from how they are and then click the
OK button. (And do it again with your desired values, if need be.)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 14:59:14 +0100
From: Jochen Haeberle <listen at MIDRAS dot de>
Subject: rerouted mail problem
Hi,
I am using AutoShare along a EIMS Server 2.1.
Some mail accounts (including some of mine) are set up to Save as File with
Keep Copies enabled pointing to The Filed Mail folder. Im using some
filters on the mails.
Now I have several alias-accounts pointing to the account and I get errors
from AutoShare regarding them.
For example: My main account joh at midras dot de is set up in EIMS as an enabled
login account together with Save as files to Filed Mail and keep copies.
Another account, jochen at haeberle dot net is set up as forwarding account
pointing to joh at midras dot de.
I do recieve all mail to jochen at haeberle dot net okay, but people posting to
jochen at haeberle dot net receive a unresolved bounce notice from AutoShare
telling them "Sorry. The recipient address is not valid."
My AutoShare Hosts files has the domain haeberle.net in it!
What is the problem with this?
Rgds.
Jochen
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:20:42 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: rerouted mail problem
At 14:59 +0100 1/20/99, Jochen Haeberle wrote:
> For example: My main account joh at midras dot de is set up in EIMS as an enabled
> login account together with Save as files to Filed Mail and keep copies.
> Another account, jochen at haeberle dot net is set up as forwarding account
> pointing to joh at midras dot de.
>
> I do recieve all mail to jochen at haeberle dot net okay, but people posting to
> jochen at haeberle dot net receive a unresolved bounce notice from AutoShare
> telling them "Sorry. The recipient address is not valid."
This message was introduced with the unknown accounts feature.
> My AutoShare Hosts files has the domain haeberle.net in it!
That would usually be it. But to be sure, check the domain part (may
not be exactly haeberle.net) of the SMTP envelope recipient address
(STR# 8192) of a message file in the Filed Mail folder. Because of
the server forward, the user name should be joh@, while the RFC To
address should be jochen at haeberle dot net. The RFC To should not have any
impact (I just tested it to make sure).
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:30:51 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: rerouted mail problem
At 09:20 -0800 1/20/99, Mikael Hansen wrote:
> check the domain part (may not be exactly haeberle.net) of the SMTP
> envelope recipient address (STR# 8192) of a message file in the
> Filed Mail folder. Because of the server forward, the user name
> should be joh@
I forgot to say to put midras.de in the hosts file.
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 18:51:02 +0100
From: Jochen Haeberle <listen at MIDRAS dot de>
Subject: Re: rerouted mail problem
At 9:30 Uhr -0800 20.01.1999, Mikael Hansen wrote:
>At 09:20 -0800 1/20/99, Mikael Hansen wrote:
>
>> check the domain part (may not be exactly haeberle.net) of the SMTP
>> envelope recipient address (STR# 8192) of a message file in the
>> Filed Mail folder. Because of the server forward, the user name
>> should be joh@
>
>I forgot to say to put midras.de in the hosts file.
I have this in my hosts file as well.
Is this the only way to find out about the SMTP envelope???
Jochen
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 19:05:47 +0100
From: Jochen Haeberle <listen at MIDRAS dot de>
Subject: Re: rerouted mail problem
At 9:30 Uhr -0800 20.01.1999, Mikael Hansen wrote:
>At 09:20 -0800 1/20/99, Mikael Hansen wrote:
>
>> check the domain part (may not be exactly haeberle.net) of the SMTP
>> envelope recipient address (STR# 8192) of a message file in the
>> Filed Mail folder. Because of the server forward, the user name
>> should be joh@
>
>I forgot to say to put midras.de in the hosts file.
The STR# 8192 shows exactly jochen at haeberle dot net.
Here's the bounced message. Perhaps you can think of anything else:
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
> To: root <root at Miraville.MIDRAS dot de>
> From: jochen at haeberle dot net
> Errors-To: bounce at haeberle dot net (Bounce Account)
> Precedence: bulk
> Subject: So ein Test...
> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:09:08 Uhr +0100
> List-Software: AutoShare 3.0.4b2d2 by Mikael Hansen
> Message-Id: <313914845168617473186 at haeberle dot net>
>
> Sorry. The recipient address is not valid.
>
> > Return-Path: <root at Miraville.MIDRAS dot de>
> > Received: from Miraville.MIDRAS.de (212.14.64.240) by MIDRAS.de with ESMTP
> > (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.1); Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:08:56 +0100
> > Received: from localhost (root@localhost)
> > by Miraville.MIDRAS.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01585
> > for <jochen at haeberle dot net>; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 12:32:25 +0200
> > Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 12:32:19 +0200 (CEST)
> > From: root <root at Miraville.MIDRAS dot de>
> > To: jochen at haeberle dot net
> > Subject: So ein Test...
> > Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.05.9708101231280.1576-100000 at Miraville.MIDRAS dot de>
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
> >
> > Hallo, das ist eine Mail vom Miraville...
> >
>
> --=_b2cb85f6001e3a0e at MIDRAS dot de--
Jochen
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 21:03:01 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: AutoShare 3.0.4b2
The 3.0.4b2 archive has been uploaded to
<ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/>
+Added new folder button in standard folder dialog for select buttons
+Added status window start-up warning if no listmaster or bounce address
+Enabled use of /=mailback tokens in subject-specific auto-response files;
if use of mail-back keyword in subject, /=original or /=header token must
be present in mail-back confirmation file
+Added join and leave, which may be used for subscribing and unsubscribing;
use the letter R in Misc Stuff to reflect these commands in RFC headers
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 00:35:35 +1000
From: "D. Robinson" <dazzrob at ruralnet.net dot au>
Subject: Binhex attachments
Could anybody help me, I want set up a autoresponder with out binhexing
attachments. Is it possible? I need to send pdf files for both Mac and
Windows.
Darren
_._ _._
.',_ '. .' _,'.
/ /' `\ \ __ / /' `\ \
/ / \.' './ \ \
`-` : _ _ : `-`
|(o)(o)| mailto:dazzrob at ruralnet.net dot au
| |
/ \
/ .--. \
| ( ) |
_\ '--' /__
.' '-.__.-' `-.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 12:47:08 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Binhex attachments
At 00:35 +1000 1/22/99, D. Robinson wrote:
> Could anybody help me, I want set up a autoresponder with out binhexing
> attachments. Is it possible? I need to send pdf files for both Mac and
> Windows.
The pdf format in itself is not a mail transport format; one way
often seen is a MIME base64 encoded pdf file with an application/pdf
MIME content-type wrapper around it, which AutoShare doesn't support.
BinHex is not difficult for the receiving user though, as it's just a
single drag and drop away with StuffIt Expander available on both
platforms.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:21:48 -0800
From: Michael Wise <mike at wired dot com>
Subject: Type 10 Error/Vacation notice
To: autoshare at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (AutoShare Listserver)
From: Michael Wise <mike at wired dot com>
Subject: Type 10 Error/Vacation notice
Cc:
Bcc:
X-Attachments:
Greetings,
I'm a first time AutoShare user. For us, I think it's greatest use
will be for vacation notices....given that unlike EIMS auto-reply
function, AutoShare supposedly will limit responses to one vacation
bounce per incoming address (very nice) as well as having the ability
to filter whether or not vacation auto-replies are sent at all.
To cut to the chase, I thought I had properly followed instructions
on how to set up a vacation reply...although the full documentation
was of little help in this...and the older Jason Snell quickstart was
great and step-by-step. I set every thing up as outlined in the
quickstart (vacation msg as a text doc named "default" in hard
drive:auto/documents/user name, and filter with the user's name and
containing ***** in hard drive/auto/filter. So far so good...but
every time I send a test message to the account, AutoShare quits with
a type 10 error. When I look at the filter file, it contains my email
address below the **** (since I sent it the test msg). I look in the
auto/file mail folder, and it contains a file with the msg I
sent...so I can't figure out what's going wrong. I've double, triple,
and quadruple-checked that the EIMS account is configured to as files
in the auto filed mail directory and that all the AutoShare folder
prefs are pointing to the right places.
My set up:
PPC 7200/90, System 8.5.1
EIMS 2.2.1b3
AutoShare 3.0.4b2 (assigned 1024k memory)
Is this just a beta thing? I notice this list serv is running off a
3.0.4 beta...so one would think it would be stable. I'm not entirely
convinced that retrograding to EIMS 2.2 and AutoShare 3.0.3 will
solve this problem.
Any ideas??
--Mike
*****************************************************
Michael Wise
Manager, Information Systems & Technology
Wired Magazine
www.wired.com/wired
mike at wired dot com
*****************************************************
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:51:01 -0500
From: Gordon Shupe <gshupe at ix.netcom dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk partial digest 21 Jan 1999
System Configuration
Performa 6190 100 Mhz
System 7.5.3 Open Transport 1.1.2 RAM 48.0 MB
Virtual Memory Off Available Hard Drive space 764.8 MB
running EIMS 1.1.3, Webstar 2.03, Keep It Up Auto Start, Okee Dokee Pro
and Rebound
I have been running Autoshare for a number of years, and recently
upgraded to version 3.01.
1) The Autoshare Admin that I had no longer works with 3.01- is there a
new version- I didn't see anything in the downloaded folder.
2) I had people that responded to one list that I had set up as an
announce list, and I never got a bounced copy of their message.
3) Finally, and most disturbingly, today, I had to kill Autoshare
because it was bringing down my server every 10 minutes or so as it
tried to process a letter. Once it went to processing the letter, I
couldn't end function with the command period, quit, or even force quit
Autoshare- it was also making a lot of hard drive noises. I was able to
move to other applications, and quit out of them, but even using a
System restart, it couldn't interrupt the Autoshare process. I had even
disable processing from within Autoshare, but that didn't stop it from
processing the file even after reboot. I tried rebuilding the desktop,
but that didn't keep it from crashing. I have included my recent bounce
mail message below:
Wed, 20 Jan 1999 00:00:07 New log starting up
Wed, 20 Jan 1999 00:00:33 Copying Log.Generic
Wed, 20 Jan 1999 00:00:34 Copying Digest.icej
Wed, 20 Jan 1999 06:34:38 AutoShare starting up
AutoShare version is 3.0.1
Next log in 17:25:22
Next digest in 17:25:22
à Wed, 20 Jan 1999 14:46:40 icej.m at stone.web.brevard.k12.fl dot us
gshupe at ix.netcom dot com Use of this ICEJ List
Wed, 20 Jan 1999 17:48:05 AutoShare starting up
AutoShare version is 3.0.1
Next log in 06:11:55
Next digest in 06:11:55
Wed, 20 Jan 1999 21:44:09 AutoShare starting up
AutoShare version is 3.0.1
Next log in 02:15:51
Next digest in 02:15:51
Wed, 20 Jan 1999 21:49:30 AutoShare starting up
AutoShare version is 3.0.1
Next log in 02:10:30
Next digest in 02:10:30
Wed, 20 Jan 1999 21:54:48 AutoShare starting up
AutoShare version is 3.0.1
Next log in 02:05:12
Next digest in 02:05:12
**********repeats the same type of message a bunch of times... then
concludes with:
AutoShare version is 3.0.1
Next log in 00:01:14
Next digest in 00:01:14
Thu, 21 Jan 1999 00:03:40 AutoShare starting up
AutoShare version is 3.0.1
Next log in 00:-3:-40
Next digest in 00:-3:-40
Transactions
List contributions: 31
Transaction total: 31
Individual test bounces
List server requests
Remote administration requests
Gordon Shupe
Technology Specialist - Stone JHS - Melbourne, FL
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 19:13:13 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Type 10 Error/Vacation notice
At 13:21 -0800 1/21/99, Michael Wise wrote:
> I'm a first time AutoShare user. For us, I think it's greatest use
> will be for vacation notices....given that unlike EIMS auto-reply
> function, AutoShare supposedly will limit responses to one vacation
> bounce per incoming address (very nice) as well as having the
> ability to filter whether or not vacation auto-replies are sent at
> all.
Thanks and welcome!
> To cut to the chase, I thought I had properly followed instructions
> on how to set up a vacation reply...although the full documentation
> was of little help in this...and the older Jason Snell quickstart
> was great and step-by-step. I set every thing up as outlined in the
> quickstart (vacation msg as a text doc named "default" in hard
> drive:auto/documents/user name, and filter with the user's name and
> containing ***** in hard drive/auto/filter.
The documentation does not include a complete step-by-step guide to
the configuration of vacation notices per se, because setting up such
a vacation notice service is almost identical to setting up an
auto-response service. The only two minor differences are that 1. the
mail account is configured a little differently, 2. the filter file
for one vacation notice only feature. Although filters are considered
as an advanced feature (you got there very quickly!), I'd be happy to
mention it briefly in the documentation's quick start guide following
creating a first list and a first auto-response.
> So far so good...but every time I send a test message to the
> account, AutoShare quits with a type 10 error.
While this must be frustrating to you, I have no specific clue as to
why that would happen to you other than suggesting that you try to
drop a message file in the Filed Mail folder at a time when you have
booted with extensions off and after you have made sure via various
utilities that your system is in optimal shape. I have for years not
received a single user crash report, which turned out to be such, not
that I mind :-)
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 21 Jan 1999
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 23:00:35 -0500
From: Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
On 1/21/99 4:01 PM, AutoShare-Talk list said:
>+Added new folder button in standard folder dialog for select buttons
If you are looking for other ideas, today I saw that it would be very
useful to be able to create new documents and re-name existing ones from
Admin.
Charles L. Martin
clmartin at theOmbudsman dot com
http://www.theOmbudsman.com/Martin_Law/
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:53:55 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk partial digest 21 Jan 1999
At 16:51 -0500 1/21/99, Gordon Shupe wrote:
> 1) The Autoshare Admin that I had no longer works with 3.01- is there a
> new version- I didn't see anything in the downloaded folder.
It's in 3.0.
> 2) I had people that responded to one list that I had set up as an
> announce list, and I never got a bounced copy of their message.
It's returned to the sender.
> 3) Finally, and most disturbingly, today, I had to kill Autoshare
> because it was bringing down my server every 10 minutes or so as it
> tried to process a letter.
Did you save the message file by any chance?
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 00:25:18 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 21 Jan 1999
At 23:00 -0500 1/21/99, Charles L. Martin wrote:
> If you are looking for other ideas, today I saw that it would be very
> useful to be able to create new documents and re-name existing ones from
> Admin.
Good suggestion. Thanks.
Date: 22 Jan 99 08:22:28 -0600
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: Re: new additions
Reply to: Re: new additions
Hi Mikael,
Well, if you want suggestions to fill your spare time ;-> :
It would be very nice if the auto response system in autoshare could =
binhex an enclosure file for you. And, it would be nice if tokens could =
be used to specify the enclosure file (files?) in the returned text =
document. For example, you might have a text document called "instructions"=
and in that document (along wit6h some text) two tokens: /enclose mypdf a=
nd /enclose pdfreader. Autoshare could look at the text document, binhex "=
mypdf" and "pdfreader" and attach them to the requests to the server for =
the "instructions" document. That way we could remove the limitation of =
one enclosure and the need to have the parallel names for the text file =
and the enclosure file. =
Seems to me this would be an obvious extension of some of your other work =
with tokens. Besides writing the binhex routines would give you something =
new and interesting to do... right? :->
Did you already do this somewhere along the way and I just missed it? The =
way things are going here I wouldn't be a bit surprised.....
Chuck Boody
Analyst/Programmer
ISD 270
=======
Mikael Hansen wrote:
>At 23:00 -0500 1/21/99, Charles L. Martin wrote:
>
>> If you are looking for other ideas, today I saw that it would be very
>> useful to be able to create new documents and re-name existing ones =
from
>> Admin.
>
>Good suggestion. Thanks.
>
>
>** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
>** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/>
>
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> Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 21 Jan 1999
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Date: 22 Jan 99 11:46:14 -0600
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: What happened to <any-name>??
I am running EIMS 2.2 along with Autoshare, and want to be able to send =
mail through EIMS <any-name> account to Autoshare to turn on and off list =
servs using the listserv-on at mydomain dot com approach. To do this is simple =
enough, just set the <any-name> account in EIMS to save the mail in the =
Autoshare filed mail folder and let Autoshare deal with all of the mail =
that comes in that does not have a valid username on it. However, even =
though the <any-name> account is active and properly set up mail sent to =
unknown accounts is returned. Here's an example of the response:
The following message could not be delivered because the address =
asmail-which at stumail.hopkins.k12.mn dot us was rejected by host =
stumail.hopkins.k12.mn.us (198.174.221.15).
550 5.1.1 user asmail-which at stumail.hopkins.k12.mn dot us not known
Clearly the <any-name> account is not working. Doubtless I've overlooked =
something, but what??
Thanks for any help you can give.
Chuck Boody
Analyst/Programmer
ISD 270
=======
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:08:36 +0000
From: James Berriman <james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk>
Subject: Re: What happened to <any-name>??
At 17:46 +0000 22/1/1999, Chuck Boody wrote:
>I am running EIMS 2.2 along with Autoshare, and want to be able to send
>mail through EIMS <any-name> account to Autoshare to turn on and off list
>servs using the listserv-on at mydomain dot com approach.
EIMS 2.x does not use the <any-name> account. Each EIMS domain now has an
individual setting for unknown accounts. Click on the triangle above the
list of users and groups in that domain's window to access the unknown
account configuration.
( :-]) James
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:27:45 +0000
From: James Berriman <james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk>
Subject: Re: What happened to <any-name>??
Oh dear:
>To: EIMS-L at qualcomm.co dot nz (Subscribers of AutoShare-Talk)
The original header said:
To: AutoShare-Talk at frutiger.staffs.ac.uk, <EIMS-L at qualcomm dot co dot nz>
( :-]) James
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 13:45:11 -0500
From: Gordon Shupe <gshupe at ix.netcom dot com>
Subject: Mailshare is killing my server-(sorry I didn't change the subject last
Mikael Hansen wrote:
> At 16:51 -0500 1/21/99, Gordon Shupe wrote:
>
> > 1) The Autoshare Admin that I had no longer works with 3.01- is there a
> > new version- I didn't see anything in the downloaded folder.
>
> It's in 3.0.
>
> > 2) I had people that responded to one list that I had set up as an
> > announce list, and I never got a bounced copy of their message.
>
> It's returned to the sender.
I thought that a copy was sent to the postmaster or listowner...
>
>
> > 3) Finally, and most disturbingly, today, I had to kill Autoshare
> > because it was bringing down my server every 10 minutes or so as it
> > tried to process a letter.
>
> Did you save the message file by any chance?
Do you mean the message file in the Incoming Mail Folder for EIMS, I think
that is the message it is trying to process- it is called <b2cbc60a.1>. It
does not show any characters when opened with BBedit.
Yikes! I just looked in the filed mail folder and there is a item called
b2cbc60a that is huge!!! Would you believe 65 megs!!! I don't know if I have
anything that can open it, any idea what I have done to create such a
monster???
thanks!
Gordon
Date: 22 Jan 99 12:46:59 -0600
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: Re: What happened to <any-name>??
Reply to: Re: What happened to <any-name>??
Color me embarassed! A stupid thing to forget. Thanks James. All is =
well now
Chuck Boody
=======
James Berriman wrote:
>At 17:46 +0000 22/1/1999, Chuck Boody wrote:
>>I am running EIMS 2.2 along with Autoshare, and want to be able to send
>>mail through EIMS <any-name> account to Autoshare to turn on and off =
list
>>servs using the listserv-on at mydomain dot com approach.
>
>EIMS 2.x does not use the <any-name> account. Each EIMS domain now has an
>individual setting for unknown accounts. Click on the triangle above the
>list of users and groups in that domain's window to access the unknown
>account configuration.
>
>( :-]) James
>
>
>
>
>** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
>** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/>
>
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Date: 22 Jan 99 13:06:15 -0600
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: RE: huge message
Reply to: RE: huge message
I'd recommend that you remove it at once. All should be well with =
Autoshare after that. Then open the file with "MoreorLess" and see what =
is in it. "MoreorLess" is freeware as I recall and will open anything and =
goes page by page through the file.
Chuck Boody
=======
Gordon Shupe wrote:
>Mikael Hansen wrote:
>
>> At 16:51 -0500 1/21/99, Gordon Shupe wrote:
>>
>> > 1) The Autoshare Admin that I had no longer works with 3.01- is there =
a
>> > new version- I didn't see anything in the downloaded folder.
>>
>> It's in 3.0.
>>
>> > 2) I had people that responded to one list that I had set up as an
>> > announce list, and I never got a bounced copy of their message.
>>
>> It's returned to the sender.
>
>I thought that a copy was sent to the postmaster or listowner...
>
>>
>>
>> > 3) Finally, and most disturbingly, today, I had to kill Autoshare
>> > because it was bringing down my server every 10 minutes or so as it
>> > tried to process a letter.
>>
>> Did you save the message file by any chance?
>
>Do you mean the message file in the Incoming Mail Folder for EIMS, I =
think
>that is the message it is trying to process- it is called <b2cbc60a.1>. =
It
>does not show any characters when opened with BBedit.
>
>Yikes! I just looked in the filed mail folder and there is a item called
>b2cbc60a that is huge!!! Would you believe 65 megs!!! I don't know if I =
have
>anything that can open it, any idea what I have done to create such a
>monster???
>
>thanks!
>Gordon
>
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 15:07:23 -0500
From: Gordon Shupe <gshupe at ix.netcom dot com>
Subject: Re: huge message
Thanks Chuck,
I searched zdnet, shareware.com, filez.com, altavista, hotbot, and only lycos had mention of that program from 1994. I haven't tried Canopener yet, but it was beyond BBedit's capability even with enough memory set in the finder. Do you have a copy of
MoreorLess you could attach to <gshupe at ix.netcom dot com? It sounds like a good tool...
I figured I could just remove it and all would be ok, but I really want to know what caused it, because I don't want it to start up again.
gordon
Chuck Boody wrote:
> Reply to: RE: huge message
> I'd recommend that you remove it at once. All should be well with Autoshare after that. Then open the file with "MoreorLess" and see what is in it. "MoreorLess" is freeware as I recall and will open anything and goes page by page through the file.
>
> Chuck Boody
> =======
>
> Gordon Shupe wrote:
> >Mikael Hansen wrote:
> >
> >> At 16:51 -0500 1/21/99, Gordon Shupe wrote:
> >>
> >> > 1) The Autoshare Admin that I had no longer works with 3.01- is there a
> >> > new version- I didn't see anything in the downloaded folder.
> >>
> >> It's in 3.0.
> >>
> >> > 2) I had people that responded to one list that I had set up as an
> >> > announce list, and I never got a bounced copy of their message.
> >>
> >> It's returned to the sender.
> >
> >I thought that a copy was sent to the postmaster or listowner...
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> > 3) Finally, and most disturbingly, today, I had to kill Autoshare
> >> > because it was bringing down my server every 10 minutes or so as it
> >> > tried to process a letter.
> >>
> >> Did you save the message file by any chance?
> >
> >Do you mean the message file in the Incoming Mail Folder for EIMS, I think
> >that is the message it is trying to process- it is called <b2cbc60a.1>. It
> >does not show any characters when opened with BBedit.
> >
> >Yikes! I just looked in the filed mail folder and there is a item called
> >b2cbc60a that is huge!!! Would you believe 65 megs!!! I don't know if I have
> >anything that can open it, any idea what I have done to create such a
> >monster???
> >
> >thanks!
> >Gordon
> >
>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:40:11 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: new additions
At 08:22 -0600 1/22/99, Chuck Boody wrote:
> It would be very nice if the auto response system in autoshare
> could binhex an enclosure file for you.
This is something that I looked into at one time, but somehow forgot.
It is definitely something that I'll be looking into again.
> And, it would be nice if tokens could be used to specify the
> enclosure file (files?) in the returned text document. For example,
> you might have a text document called "instructions" and in that
> document (along wit6h some text) two tokens: /enclose mypdf and
> /enclose pdfreader.
Good points. Thanks.