Subject: Bad Token
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 98 14:54:29 -0800
From: Donna Parrish <donna at multilingual dot com>

Thanks - that pointed me in the right direction.
Donna Parrish

>>I've been using Autoshare with great success. I have been running 2.4b3.
>>It seems that for a while, peope have been unable to subscribe
>>automatically. This is a function that used to work on our system.
>>Potential subscribers now get the message:
>>Your subscription has been received pertaining to the following list:
>>/=sub (bad token)
>
>The source of it is most likely the /=sub line in your Sub document,
>perhaps a hidden character or something. Do people receive the other text
>in the sub document? Does the /=sub line or the file name contain any
>spaces? If you send me the Sub file, I can look into it.

Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:47:49 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: AutoShare 3.0 public beta

The 3.0b4 archive has been uploaded to

  <ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/>

The archive includes only the files that are newer than 2.4. While I
believe that 3.0b4 is free of bugs, do keep in mind that running a beta is
generally viewed as risky business.

The 3.0 beta is likely to behave the way version 2.4 does. Although you
don't have to really prepare for start using version 3.0, it is recommended
that you run the logs and digests "now" using the version you're upgrading
from whenever an upgrade takes place.

I like to throw in a major feature for a major version. Version 3.0
introduces a new built-in database subscriber format, which allows you to
add optional fields to any subscriber record, such as date of subscription.
This can be accomplished while keeping a high processing speed and yet low
on memory and disk storage.

The configuration of the new features in 3.0 is described in the updated
HTML documentation, which includes links to the new features at the top of
it. Another feature is the use of language files aimed at messages returned
to subscribers; several such languages files are included in the beta
archive. Version 3.0 also introduces MIME digests as attachments, which
digest subscribers on the talk list have recently been exposed to.

Best wishes for a fun Friday and a pleasant Labor Day weekend.

Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 16:18:51 +0200
From: Detlef Beyer <d.beyer at hermes dot de>
Subject: Precedence BULK

Hi,

I found this in the AS docs:

>One of the nice things about AutoShare is that it applies the Precedence: bulk by suppressing responses and list contributions for mails
>including it. And outgoing list contributions get it inserted automatically. This means less of a risk of vacation notices being posted to lists.

This could be a nice thing but I would like to turn off the insert of the "bulk" keyword to the RFC header - for special list only?!

The problem is: one of my customers who is asking for a mailing list - but they block all incomming mail with Precedence: bulk, so they never see a copy of theire own list...

Any idea?

Det



Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:49:59 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Precedence BULK

At 16:18 +0200 9/4/98, Detlef Beyer wrote:

>This could be a nice thing but I would like to turn off the insert of\
>the "bulk" keyword to the RFC header - for special list only?!

I'll look into this. Thanks.

Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 21:51:05 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: AutoShare 3.0b5

The 3.0b5 archive has been uploaded to

  <ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/>

The Admin's Subscriber window adds support for optional subscriber fields,
when the list is using the built-in database format.

A new command entitled Log is added to remote administration by e-mail. See
the documentation for details.

I'll spend some time in Denmark, so you're on your own, folks.

Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 12:41:43 +1200
From: woof at ihug.co dot nz (mark beaton)
Subject: Facespan Extension

Hi all...
Please bear with me if this is a regular discussion topic - I only
subscribed half an hour ago.

When I try to open the Admin app, it asks me to locate the Facespan
extension, which I do, and then I get the following message:

Unable to continue because
FaceSpan Extension is missing,
would not open, or is too old a
version. (0)

Any ideas??? Is this common???

Running:
WGS 7250/120
OS 8.1
AIMS LocalTalk Bridge 1.3
Appleshare File Server
Autoshare 2.4
4-Sight Comms-Server
EIMS 1.2
Filemaker Pro Server
WebStar 3.01

Your help much appreciated.

mark

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://www.the-stereo-bus.gen.nz/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 02:14:30 +0100
From: James Berriman <james at dcl.co dot uk>
Subject: Re: Facespan Extension

At 01:41 8/9/98, mark beaton wrote:
>Hi all...
>Please bear with me if this is a regular discussion topic - I only
>subscribed half an hour ago.
>
>When I try to open the Admin app, it asks me to locate the Facespan
>extension, which I do, and then I get the following message:
>
>Unable to continue because
>FaceSpan Extension is missing,
>would not open, or is too old a
>version. (0)

Welcome to the list, Mark :-)

I have a feeling that FaceSpan requires QuickTime to be installed. This
could be the cause of your problem.

( :-])  James



Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 13:56:05 +1200
From: woof at ihug.co dot nz (mark beaton)
Subject: Re: Facespan Extension

>Welcome to the list, Mark :-)

Cheers.

>I have a feeling that FaceSpan requires QuickTime to be installed. This
>could be the cause of your problem.

Yep, that's fixed it.
Thanks.

>( :-])  James

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://www.the-stereo-bus.gen.nz/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 19:10:58 -0400
From: Steve Wiedemann <swiedem at henninger dot com>
Subject: Huh?

Autoshare seems to be an enormously useful, infinitely configurable
piece of software.  Hats off to Mikael Hansen.  I wish I knew what I was
doing wrong and hope someone here has go some answers.

I'm running EIMS 1.2.1 and used the "out of the box" demo of Autoshare,
you know, the one with "Fun-L" and the "Fun-L.m" and "Fun-L.d" files.  I
was able to configure everything and subscribe successfully.  When I
make a contribution, the EIMS server reports repeated attempts to move
my message to "fun-l.m".  It will only stop if I tell EIMS to delete the
Fun-L.m entry in the account list.  I must have a loop somewhere but
I've trashed everything and reinstalled Autoshare three times and still
get the same results.

Any light that can be shed on this would be greatly appreciated.

-- 
Steve Wiedemann

Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 19:49:46 -0400
Subject: Re: Huh?
From: "William J. Suarez" <wsuarez at wal.osicom dot com>

Steve,

Make sure that the ".m" and ".d" accounts are setup as mailing lists (in
EIMS) and pointing to the correct path and filename. It sounds like you
might have them setup as "save as files" perhaps??

Bill Suarez
------------------------------------------------
William J. Suarez
mailto:wsuarez at wal.osicom dot com
http://www.osicom.com/

----------
>From: Steve Wiedemann <swiedem at henninger dot com>
>To: autoshare-talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (Subscribers of autoshare-talk)
>Subject: Huh?
>Date: Tue, Sep 8, 1998, 7:10 PM
>

>Autoshare seems to be an enormously useful, infinitely configurable
>piece of software.  Hats off to Mikael Hansen.  I wish I knew what I was
>doing wrong and hope someone here has go some answers.
>
>I'm running EIMS 1.2.1 and used the "out of the box" demo of Autoshare,
>you know, the one with "Fun-L" and the "Fun-L.m" and "Fun-L.d" files.  I
>was able to configure everything and subscribe successfully.  When I
>make a contribution, the EIMS server reports repeated attempts to move
>my message to "fun-l.m".  It will only stop if I tell EIMS to delete the
>Fun-L.m entry in the account list.  I must have a loop somewhere but
>I've trashed everything and reinstalled Autoshare three times and still
>get the same results.
>
>Any light that can be shed on this would be greatly appreciated.
>
>-- 
>Steve Wiedemann
>
>**  The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
>**  <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/>

Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 10:43:17 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare 3.0b5

At 9:51 PM -0700 on 9/6/98, Mikael Hansen wrote:


> The 3.0b5 archive has been uploaded to
>
>   <ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/>
>

This is also mirrored at

http://pascal-central.com/autoshare/beta/AutoShare3.0b5.sit.


Cheers,
Bill

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From: jose.accino at ice.uma dot es (Jose A. Accino)
Subject: Duplicated messages with AS 2.3
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:29:07 +0000

I've installed  AS 2.3 a month ago. As I've been on vacation
I have not seen the problem until today: all messages sent to
one of our lists are arriving twice. No problem with the other
lists, however. Any ideas about where to look for solving
that?

Thanks in advance,
JA.

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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:49:38 -0400
From: Steve Wiedemann <swiedem at henninger dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 9 Sep 1998

To Bill Suarez:

Thanks for answering on possible reasons why my first AutoShare attempt
wasn't working.  The actual problem was the example files and their
structure didn't match the configuration instructions.  The suggested
path for one of the files was HD:Auto:LS: and the sample files were in a
folder labeled List Server, not LS.  It took a little time to understand
enough to fix this, but it's working now, thank you.

By the way, we're starting to use the Osicom Routermates all over our
network here.  They're great.

-- 
Steve Wiedemann
Sr.VP, Director of Technology
Henninger Media Services
703.908.4018
http://www.henninger.com

From: "Suarez, William" <WSuarez at wal.osicom dot com>
Subject: RE: AutoShare-Talk digest 9 Sep 1998
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:22:46 -0400

That makes sense Steve, I had forgotten about the preconfigured pathnames.

Glad the RouterMates are doing their job. The best thing about them is that
"they just work".

Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Wiedemann [mailto:swiedem at henninger dot com]
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 1998 3:50 PM
To: AutoShare-Talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 9 Sep 1998


To Bill Suarez:

Thanks for answering on possible reasons why my first AutoShare attempt
wasn't working.  The actual problem was the example files and their
structure didn't match the configuration instructions.  The suggested
path for one of the files was HD:Auto:LS: and the sample files were in a
folder labeled List Server, not LS.  It took a little time to understand
enough to fix this, but it's working now, thank you.

By the way, we're starting to use the Osicom Routermates all over our
network here.  They're great.

-- 
Steve Wiedemann
Sr.VP, Director of Technology
Henninger Media Services
703.908.4018
http://www.henninger.com

**  The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
**  <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/>

Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 23:16:11 +0100
Subject: Re: Duplicated messages with AS 2.3
From: "James Berriman" <james at dcl.co dot uk>

>I've installed  AS 2.3 a month ago. As I've been on vacation
>I have not seen the problem until today: all messages sent to
>one of our lists are arriving twice. No problem with the other
>lists, however. Any ideas about where to look for solving
>that?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>JA.

Is it possible that you're subscribed to the list with two different
addresses (your personal address and listmaster@, for instance?) Or is
everyone getting two copies of each message?

I'm prompted to ask because I have three posting addresses subscribed to
this list - one "digest", one "nodigest" and one "nomail" :-)

( :-])  James

Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:50:55 -0400
From: "Michael J. Vinca" <mjv2411 at ritvax.isc.rit dot edu>
Subject: Remote Adminstration Requests don't show up in log (amoung others)

I am running EIMS 1.2.1 and Autoshare 2.4 on a Performa 6214CD with 40MB
RAM.  My logs don't seem to put anything under the headers at the end (such
as Remote Admin Requests).  Do I have to turn this feature on somewhere?  I
put in the sample process extender to log this so you can see a remote
request was called.  Here is an example log:

>===== AutoShare Log Report, Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:39:45 =====
>
>Fri, 11 Sep 1998 00:01:09 New log starting up
>
>Fri, 11 Sep 1998 00:01:18 Copying Log.Generic
>
>Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:25:38 Process time was 1.33 seconds
>Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:27:17 Process extender Remote started up
>
>Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:27:21 Process extender Remote called
>
>Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:27:26 Review request for list fun-l
>
>Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:27:34 Copying 72755191
>
>
>Transactions
>
>Individual test bounces
>
>List server requests
>
>Remote administration requests

Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 19:09:28 +0200
From: Karl Dubost <karl at paris.iufm dot fr>
Subject: [Autoshare Admin] Specific manual

Dear all,

	As Mikael Hansen said to me, I read the documentation two
times. But some things are very cloudy for me. I think there are two
reasons for that :
	- the design of the manual
	- and maybe some complement information.

	Do you think, Mikael, that a FAQ could help us ??? like maybe
Faq'o'Matic
	http://www.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/jonh/faq.pl wich is
very elegant

	Is there a detail description of the Admin application with
commented screenshots ????

	By the way, I'm trying to figure out what it is in :

	Configurations -> Lists -> List

	Email
	Address
	ListHelp
	Webpath

	The Ballon Help are very precious, but it could be usefull to
have a manual in a web page. If one day I have the time.....
--
Karl DUBOST - Webmaster, System Manager - IUFM de Paris
karl at paris.iufm.fr  ***  http://www.paris.iufm dot fr/  ***
"Un enseignement de la science qui n'apprend pas à penser n'est pas un
enseignement de la science, il est un enseignement de la soumission."
Evry Schatzman, Science et Société, 1971

Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 19:39:04 +0200
From: "Serge Belleudy-d'Espinose" <sam at ijm.jussieu dot fr>
Subject: Re: [Autoshare Admin] Specific manual

>	By the way, I'm trying to figure out what it is in :
>
>	Configurations -> Lists -> List
>
>	Email
>	Address
>	ListHelp

Don't know for these ones as I don't use them but

>	Webpath

is a folder path for automated web archives.
Just put MyHD:MyFolder: and Autoshare will produce various html files in
this folder.

# Serge

\  Serge BELLEUDY - d'ESPINOSE   |   Reseau & Macintosh           /
 ) @: sam at ijm dot jussieu dot fr        -+-  Institut J. Monod - Tour 43 (
/     http://www.ijm.jussieu.fr/ |   2 pl. Jussieu - 75251 Paris  \



Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:42:52 +0200
From: Karl Dubost <karl at paris.iufm dot fr>
Subject: [Autoshare Admin] Users lists

The way is clearer and clearer, but so many questions more !!!   ;-)

Is it possible to import a tab tab return list of users for a specific list ?

with
	Email1	Name1
	Email2	Name2
	Email3	Name3
	Email4	Name4
	.....
--
Karl DUBOST - Webmaster, System Manager - IUFM de Paris
karl at paris.iufm.fr  ***  http://www.paris.iufm dot fr/  ***
"Un enseignement de la science qui n'apprend pas à penser n'est pas un
enseignement de la science, il est un enseignement de la soumission."
Evry Schatzman, Science et Société, 1971

From: "Byungtae Lee" <blee at uic dot edu>
Subject: Alias and Real Email addresses
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 00:07:41 -0500

I have a peculiar situation with autoshare.
Autoshare status screen shows two email addresses at "From" line.

For example, if I sent an email with an alias "xxx@yyy dot edu" which was sent
by
actual email address "xxx@zzz.yyy dot edu", I guess the autoshare handle email
with "xxx@zzz.yyy dot edu".
The "From" line appears as xxx at yyy.edu [xxx at zzz dot yyy dot edu].

Is there any way to make autoshare pick up the alias?

I am trying a cgi program on the unix which relays email from a web page to
autoshare. Unfortunately the program below seems to pick up
the sender's email address from the unix system. In my case
nobody@host of cgi program rather than email address users provide.

Millions of thanks in advance if you let me know any trick over cgi program
or autoshare. Thanks.


#!/usr/local/bin/perl

require "/ic/common/lib/cgi-lib.pl";

&ReadParse(*input);
print &PrintHeader;
print "<HTML>\n<HEAD>\n";
print "<TITLE>ListServer Output</TITLE>\n";
print "</HEAD>\n\n<BODY >\n";
($text = $input{'text'}) =~ s/\n/\n<BR>/g;
print <<"ENDOFTEXT";
<H1>The Listserv Processing</H1>
ENDOFTEXT
print "<HR>Here is a list of the variables you entered...<P>";
print &PrintVariables(%input);
print "</BODY></HTML>\n";
$address = $input{'toemail'};
$date = `date`;
$MAIL="/usr/lib/sendmail";
open (MAIL, "| $MAIL $address");
print MAIL <<"END";
To: $address
From: $input{'fromemail'}
Subject:
$input{'command'} $input{'maillist'} $input{'name'} $input{'option'}
END
close MAIL;


Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 12:06:38 +0100
Subject: Re: Alias and Real Email addresses
From: "James Berriman" <james at dcl.co dot uk>

>I have a peculiar situation with autoshare.
>Autoshare status screen shows two email addresses at "From" line.

>Is there any way to make autoshare pick up the alias?

There's a checkbox labelled RFCFrom (vs envelope) under Preferences... More
Miscellaneous... in the Admin. This will set AutoShare to use the address in
the From: header.

( :-])  James

Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 12:12:41 +0100
Subject: Re: [Autoshare Admin] Users lists
From: "James Berriman" <james at dcl.co dot uk>

>The way is clearer and clearer, but so many questions more !!!   ;-)
>
>Is it possible to import a tab tab return list of users for a specific list ?
>
>with
> Email1 Name1
> Email2 Name2
> Email3 Name3
> Email4 Name4

You can create a text file with the same name as the list, with subscribers
in the format:

address (name)

If you drag and drop the file onto the AutoShare application, all addresses
in the file will be automatically subscribed. I don't think AutoShare will
recognise a 'tab tab return' delimited list.

( :-])  James

Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 13:15:21 +0200
From: Karl Dubost <karl at paris.iufm dot fr>
Subject: Re: [Autoshare Admin] Users lists

OK ! Hello everybody,

I tried to administrate a list by mail, but it doesn't work ! As you
know, I have a big list of users, and I want to subscribe many people
in one shot.

At 14:42 +0200 16/09/98, Karl Dubost wrote:
>Is it possible to import a tab tab return list of users for a specific list ?
>
>with
>	Email1	Name1
>	Email2	Name2
>	Email3	Name3
>	Email4	Name4


	I sent to autoshare@blabla from the lismaster account but I
have an error message.

<password> subscribe email1 listA Name1
<password> subscribe email2 listA Name2
<password> subscribe email3 listA Name3
<password> subscribe email4 listA Name4


	Should I declare in the listA the administrator ????


	Thank you !
--
Karl DUBOST - Webmaster, System Manager - IUFM de Paris
karl at paris.iufm.fr  ***  http://www.paris.iufm dot fr/  ***
"Un enseignement de la science qui n'apprend pas à penser n'est pas un
enseignement de la science, il est un enseignement de la soumission."
Evry Schatzman, Science et Société, 1971

Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 05:33:07 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Remote Adminstration Requests don't show up in log (amoung

At 10:50 -0400 9/11/98, Michael J. Vinca wrote:

>I am running EIMS 1.2.1 and Autoshare 2.4 on a Performa 6214CD with 40MB
>RAM.  My logs don't seem to put anything under the headers at the end (such
>as Remote Admin Requests).

I have tried, but cannot reproduce this. Would you mind sending me a
StuffIt archive holding the AutoShare Log file (after a test message has
been processed and just before running the logs) and the Log.Generic file
(after running the logs; have the mail server shut down here to be able to
grap it).

The log totals are btw not listed when zero. (You can list them anyway by
adding the letter i to the Misc Stuff field after Command-J in the Admin.)

Your total is zero because there is no log entry to increment it (the
interesting part is if the entry appears in the raw AutoShare Log file).

Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 05:36:23 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: [Autoshare Admin] Specific manual

At 19:09 +0200 9/15/98, Karl Dubost wrote:

>	Is there a detail description of the Admin application with
>commented screenshots ????

No, I'm afraid not. From the documentation

"As the user interface of the Admin forms a complete and well-structured
version of the basic user interface of the server application, no manual on
the Admin is available per se. Simply keep in mind that the Miscellaneous
and Lists windows are the key to the AutoShare configuration."

Running the server
  Interfaces
    AutoShare Admin application

>	By the way, I'm trying to figure out what it is in :
>
>	Configurations -> Lists -> List
>
>	Email

The balloon says that it's the e-mail address of the list's listmaster.

>	Address
>	ListHelp
>	Webpath

Let us know if/why the balloon help doesn't do it for you.

>	The Ballon Help are very precious, but it could be usefull to
>have a manual in a web page. If one day I have the time.....

Ditto.

Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 05:39:13 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: [Autoshare Admin] Users lists

At 14:42 +0200 9/16/98, Karl Dubost wrote:

>Is it possible to import a tab tab return list of users for a specific list ?
>
>with
>	Email1	Name1
>	Email2	Name2
>	Email3	Name3
>	Email4	Name4
>	.....

Not directly. Some grep preparing in BBEdit should do it though.

Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 05:47:49 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: [Autoshare Admin] Users lists

At 13:15 +0200 9/17/98, Karl Dubost wrote:

>	I sent to autoshare@blabla from the lismaster account but I
>have an error message.
>
><password> subscribe email1 listA Name1

What kind of error message did you get?

>	Should I declare in the listA the administrator ????

You don't have to, as remote administration by e-mail is password-based
exclusively (either a list-specific or the general remote password will
work).

Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:47:12 +0200
From: Karl Dubost <karl at paris.iufm dot fr>
Subject: Re: [Autoshare Admin] Specific manual

Dear Mikael,

	thank you very much for your precious time.

At 14:36 +0200 17/09/98, Mikael Hansen wrote:
>
>Let us know if/why the balloon help doesn't do it for you.

	With 3 readings ;-) the balloon become helpfull. And we can
become an expert. But It could be usefull, to have a manual with
examples, but so long time to do it.

	Nice job, very nice job Mikael.
--
Karl DUBOST - Webmaster, System Manager - IUFM de Paris
karl at paris.iufm.fr  ***  http://www.paris.iufm dot fr/  ***
"Un enseignement de la science qui n'apprend pas à penser n'est pas un
enseignement de la science, il est un enseignement de la soumission."
Evry Schatzman, Science et Société, 1971

Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:51:06 +0200
From: Karl Dubost <karl at paris.iufm dot fr>
Subject: Re: [Autoshare Admin] Users lists

At 14:47 +0200 17/09/98, Mikael Hansen wrote:
>At 13:15 +0200 9/17/98, Karl Dubost wrote:
>
>>	I sent to autoshare@blabla from the lismaster account but I
>>have an error message.
>>
>><password> subscribe email1 listA Name1
>
>What kind of error message did you get?

	It was

	Invalid list server command: *****	subscribe	cderon at thema dot ne
				     ^^^^^
				here is the password

and after come the authorized command and the list of the
subscribers, I've sent.

>
>>	Should I declare in the listA the administrator ????
>
>You don't have to, as remote administration by e-mail is password-based
>exclusively (either a list-specific or the general remote password will
>work).

	OK !
--
Karl DUBOST - Webmaster, System Manager - IUFM de Paris
karl at paris.iufm.fr  ***  http://www.paris.iufm dot fr/  ***
"Un enseignement de la science qui n'apprend pas à penser n'est pas un
enseignement de la science, il est un enseignement de la soumission."
Evry Schatzman, Science et Société, 1971

Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:56:42 -0500
From: "Richard Petty" <rwvr90 at email.sps.mot dot com>
Subject: Msg Distribution Failure

Yesterday was a tragic play for me -- too bad it was real.  I've had an
AutoShare server set up for a while for my own needs.  I agreed to send out a
message for a co-worker to a distribution list he brought me -- it seemed
simple enough and I've done it quite often in the past.

Anyway, the list named "distribution" contained something over 200 recipient
addresses and included an attachment.  When SIMS tried to send the message out
it failed.  I've examined several SIMS logs and I seem to get "-15010" errors
with list messages but not with other individual email messages.

I know this is not a SIMS forum but this behavior only seems to exist with
AutoShare messages and I thought the experts here might have some insight. 
(I've also sent this message to the SIMS mail list.)

Below is a segment of the SIMS log.  Anyone know what the "-15010" error is here?


------------------------------------------------------------------------
....(other "sent to" statements omitted here for brevity)....

11:09:22 2 SYSTEM(SMTP) [S.0000042354] sent to (email.sps.mot.com)RWNA50
11:09:22 2 SYSTEM(SMTP) [S.0000042354] sent to (email.sps.mot.com)RXCE40
11:09:22 2 SYSTEM(SMTP) [S.0000042354] sent to (email.sps.mot.com)RZFM60
11:09:22 2 SYSTEM [S.0000042354] deleted
11:09:26 5 ROUTER Input: distribution.m-request(asm)
11:09:26 5 ROUTER Parser: distribution.m-request@asm -> distribution dot m-request(asm)
11:09:28 2 SMTP-077(emailsps.sps.mot.com) {S.0000042355} received, 152974 bytes
11:09:28 5 ROUTER Input: distribution.m-request(asm)
11:09:28 5 ROUTER Parser: distribution.m-request@asm -> distribution dot m-request(asm)
11:09:28 2 SYSTEM [S.0000042355] S.0000042355 1+0 From:root at emailsps.sps.mot dot com
11:09:30 3 SMTP [S.0000042355] dequeueing
11:09:30 1 SYSTEM(SMTP) [S.0000042355] failed on (asm)distribution.m-request.
Error Code=-15010
11:09:30 5 ROUTER Input: distribution.m-request(asm)
11:09:30 5 ROUTER Parser: distribution.m-request@asm -> distribution dot m-request(asm)
11:09:32 2 SMTP-079(emailsps.sps.mot.com) {S.0000042357} received, 152974 bytes
11:09:33 5 ROUTER Input: root(emailsps.sps.mot.com)
11:09:33 5 ROUTER Parser: root at emailsps.sps.mot dot com -> root(emailsps.sps.mot.com)
11:09:33 2 SYSTEM [S.0000042356] <AUTOS.0000042355-42356 at asm.sps.mot dot com> 1+0 From:NULL@NULL
11:09:33 5 ROUTER Input: distribution.m-request(asm)
11:09:33 5 ROUTER Parser: distribution.m-request@asm -> distribution dot m-request(asm)
11:09:33 2 SYSTEM [S.0000042357] S.0000042357 1+0 From:root at emailsps.sps.mot dot com
11:09:34 2 SMTP-080(emailsps.sps.mot.com) [S.0000042356] sent, 802 bytes
11:09:35 2 SYSTEM(SMTP) [S.0000042356] sent to (emailsps.sps.mot.com)root
11:09:36 2 SYSTEM [S.0000042356] deleted
11:09:36 3 SMTP [S.0000042357] dequeueing
11:09:36 1 SYSTEM(SMTP) [S.0000042357] failed on (asm)distribution.m-request.
Error Code=-15010
11:09:38 5 ROUTER Input: root(emailsps.sps.mot.com)
11:09:38 5 ROUTER Parser: root at emailsps.sps.mot dot com -> root(emailsps.sps.mot.com)
11:09:38 2 SYSTEM [S.0000042365] <AUTOS.0000042357-42365 at asm.sps.mot dot com> 1+0 From:NULL@NULL
11:09:38 5 ROUTER Input: distribution.m-request(asm)
11:09:38 5 ROUTER Parser: distribution.m-request@asm -> distribution dot m-request(asm)
11:09:39 2 SMTP-080(emailsps.sps.mot.com) [S.0000042365] sent, 802 bytes
11:09:40 2 SMTP-082(emailsps.sps.mot.com) {S.0000042367} received, 152974 bytes
11:09:42 5 ROUTER Input: distribution.m-request(asm)
11:09:42 5 ROUTER Parser: distribution.m-request@asm -> distribution dot m-request(asm)
11:09:42 2 SYSTEM [S.0000042367] S.0000042367 1+0 From:root at emailsps.sps.mot dot com
11:09:42 2 SYSTEM(SMTP) [S.0000042365] sent to (emailsps.sps.mot.com)root
11:09:42 5 ROUTER Input: distribution.m-request(asm)
11:09:42 5 ROUTER Parser: distribution.m-request@asm -> distribution dot m-request(asm)
11:09:43 2 SMTP-083(emailsps.sps.mot.com) {S.0000042368} received, 152974 bytes
11:09:45 5 ROUTER Input: distribution.m-request(asm)
11:09:45 5 ROUTER Parser: distribution.m-request@asm -> distribution dot m-request(asm)
11:09:45 2 SYSTEM [S.0000042368] S.0000042368 1+0 From:root at emailsps.sps.mot dot com
11:09:45 2 SYSTEM [S.0000042365] deleted
11:09:45 3 SMTP [S.0000042367] dequeueing
11:09:45 1 SYSTEM(SMTP) [S.0000042367] failed on (asm)distribution.m-request.
Error Code=-15010
11:09:46 1 SYSTEM(SMTP) [S.0000042368] failed on (asm)distribution.m-request.
Error Code=-15010
11:09:48 5 ROUTER Input: root(emailsps.sps.mot.com)
11:09:48 5 ROUTER Parser: root at emailsps.sps.mot dot com -> root(emailsps.sps.mot.com)
11:09:48 2 SYSTEM [S.0000042369] <AUTOS.0000042367-42369 at asm.sps.mot dot com> 1+0 From:NULL@NULL
11:09:48 5 ROUTER Input: root(emailsps.sps.mot.com)
11:09:48 5 ROUTER Parser: root at emailsps.sps.mot dot com -> root(emailsps.sps.mot.com)
11:09:48 2 SYSTEM [S.0000042370] <AUTOS.0000042368-42370 at asm.sps.mot dot com> 1+0 From:NULL@NULL
11:09:49 2 SMTP-080(emailsps.sps.mot.com) [S.0000042369] sent, 802 bytes
11:09:50 2 SMTP-080(emailsps.sps.mot.com) [S.0000042370] sent, 802 bytes
11:09:50 2 SYSTEM(SMTP) [S.0000042369] sent to (emailsps.sps.mot.com)root
11:09:50 2 SYSTEM(SMTP) [S.0000042370] sent to (emailsps.sps.mot.com)root
11:09:52 2 SYSTEM [S.0000042369] deleted
11:09:52 2 SYSTEM [S.0000042370] deleted
-------------------------------------------------------


The software in use is:

   My Listserver
   ----------------------------------------------------------
   Mac OS 8.1 on a 6100/60 (lots of RAM and disk space, HFS+)
   AutoShare 2.4
   SIMS 1.6

My company's mail system is based on Netscape's mail server.


Thanks,

--Richard

Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:08:15 +0200
From: Karl Dubost <karl at paris.iufm dot fr>
Subject: [Remote Password] Illegal characters


Are there illegal characters in remote password ????

	like :

	.term!nator or f:ruit
--
Karl DUBOST - Webmaster, System Manager - IUFM de Paris
karl at paris.iufm.fr  ***  http://www.paris.iufm dot fr/  ***
"Un enseignement de la science qui n'apprend pas à penser n'est pas un
enseignement de la science, il est un enseignement de la soumission."
Evry Schatzman, Science et Société, 1971

Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:16:12 +0200
From: Karl Dubost <karl at paris.iufm dot fr>
Subject: Re: [Remote Password] Illegal characters

At 18:08 +0200 17/09/98, Karl Dubost wrote:
>Are there illegal characters in remote password ????
>
>	like :
>
>	.term!nator or f:ruit

It's exactly that, I have just changed the password and everything is
OK.... It could be very usefull Mikael that the possibility to have
more complicated password exists.


Maybe a note in the documentation !

	Thanks.
--
Karl DUBOST - Webmaster, System Manager - IUFM de Paris
karl at paris.iufm.fr  ***  http://www.paris.iufm dot fr/  ***
"Un enseignement de la science qui n'apprend pas à penser n'est pas un
enseignement de la science, il est un enseignement de la soumission."
Evry Schatzman, Science et Société, 1971

Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:39:25 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Msg Distribution Failure

At 09:56 -0500 9/17/98, Richard Petty wrote:

>Anyway, the list named "distribution" contained something over 200
>recipient addresses and included an attachment.

If you are able to send me a StuffIt'ed archive with the (or a similar)
message file processed by AutoShare, I can look into it.

Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:35:08 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: [Remote Password] Illegal characters

At 18:08 +0200 9/17/98, Karl Dubost wrote:

>Are there illegal characters in remote password ????
>
>	like :
>
>	.term!nator or f:ruit

Both of these passwords work for me.

Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:26:23 +0200
From: "Serge Belleudy-d'Espinose" <sam at ijm.jussieu dot fr>
Subject: Autoshare mute

Hi all

Everything with AS 2.3 was fine until this morning. The loss of daily logs
alerted me. A few tests revealed the real problem, nothing more is passing
thru AS! Messages in the filed folder ok, then AS processes, thenŠ nothing=
,
messages vanish.

No they don't, they end up in the autoshare temp folder in the prefs.

The only unusual thing yesterday was a Netprez crash, but everything seemed
fine after reboot.

A little voice in my head says this problem has already been covered, but I
don't remember when. What should I do, upgrade AS, check prefs,
test/unfragment/rebuild my disks ?

Thanks for help.

# SBE

\  Serge BELLEUDY - d'ESPINOSE   |   Reseau & Macintosh           /
 ) @: sam at ijm dot jussieu dot fr        -+-  Institut J. Monod - Tour 43 (
/     http://www.ijm.jussieu.fr/ |   2 pl. Jussieu - 75251 Paris  \



Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:02:34 +0200
From: "Serge Belleudy-d'Espinose" <sam at ijm.jussieu dot fr>
Subject: Autoshare not mute any more

Hi again

I solved my problem, but I'm not sure why.

First I replaced 2.3 with 2.4. AS crashed at startup, just after verifying
lists - and before processing autoshare temp files?
So I looked closer in this folder, there was a 1.2mo file that was stuck,
badly addressed.
Removed the file, re-started, AS was fine.
Then I deliberatly sent a mail to a bogus address, this time the error
message came back fine - and so were all the files waiting in the autoshare
temp folder correctly processed.

I don't have a clear idea of what happened, but everything's fine know.

Just for info

# SBE

\  Serge BELLEUDY - d'ESPINOSE   |   Reseau & Macintosh           /
 ) @: sam at ijm dot jussieu dot fr        -+-  Institut J. Monod - Tour 43 (
/     http://www.ijm.jussieu.fr/ |   2 pl. Jussieu - 75251 Paris  \



Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 14:12:20 +0100
Subject: Re: Autoshare mute
From: "James Berriman" <james at dcl.co dot uk>

>Hi all
>
>Everything with AS 2.3 was fine until this morning. The loss of daily logs
>alerted me. A few tests revealed the real problem, nothing more is passing
>thru AS! Messages in the filed folder ok, then AS processes, thenŠ nothing=
,
>messages vanish.
>
>No they don't, they end up in the autoshare temp folder in the prefs.

There was a problem with 2.3 if mailbacks were enabled and the mailback
folder path was not defined. This may be the cause of your problem if your
preferences file or hard drive have been corrupted.

Upgrading to 2.4 or 3.0b5 would be a good idea :-)

( :-])  James

Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:17:40 +0200
From: "Serge Belleudy-d'Espinose" <sam at ijm.jussieu dot fr>
Subject: Re: Autoshare mute

>There was a problem with 2.3 if mailbacks were enabled and the mailback
>folder path was not defined. This may be the cause of your problem if your
>preferences file or hard drive have been corrupted.

Is there a way to tell if a preference file is corrupted? It contains no
resource fork.

>Upgrading to 2.4 or 3.0b5 would be a good idea :-)

This is probably why all is fine now.

# Serge

\  Serge BELLEUDY - d'ESPINOSE   |   Reseau & Macintosh           /
 ) @: sam at ijm dot jussieu dot fr        -+-  Institut J. Monod - Tour 43 (
/     http://www.ijm.jussieu.fr/ |   2 pl. Jussieu - 75251 Paris  \



Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 07:02:49 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Msg Distribution Failure

At 09:56 -0500 9/17/98, Richard Petty wrote:

>Anyway, the list named "distribution" contained something over 200 recipient
>addresses and included an attachment.  When SIMS tried to send the message out
>it failed.  I've examined several SIMS logs and I seem to get "-15010" errors
>with list messages but not with other individual email messages.

Someone responded on the SIMS list:

>On the 15010 error one of you was wondering about.  It is because the
>recipient email address is not in a valid domain.  SIMS was trying to verify
>the domain name but it was not real.  From your log:
>
>11:09:45 5 ROUTER Parser: distribution dot m-request@asm ->
>distribution.m-request(asm)
>11:09:45 2 SYSTEM [S.0000042368] S.0000042368 1+0
>From:root at emailsps.sps.mot dot com
>11:09:45 2 SYSTEM [S.0000042365] deleted
>11:09:45 3 SMTP [S.0000042367] dequeueing
>11:09:45 1 SYSTEM(SMTP) [S.0000042367] failed on
>(asm)distribution.m-request.
>Error Code=-15010
>
>The first line is SIMS converting the TO email address to it own internal
>format but "asm" is not a valid domain name.  Understand?

Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 07:04:16 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Autoshare mute

At 15:17 +0200 9/18/98, Serge Belleudy-d'Espinose wrote:

>Is there a way to tell if a preference file is corrupted? It contains no
>resource fork.

In 3.0, a sanity check is performed on the resource fork of the AutoShare
preferences file(s) at start-up; if the verification fails, the AutoShare
server application shuts down. The sanity check may be performed on any
file's resource fork using the Verify File AppleScript command. Keep in
mind though that the sanity check passes if there is no resource fork, as
it must be present to potentially be bad.

Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 20:33:12 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: AutoShare 3.0b6

The 3.0b6 archive has been uploaded to

  <ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/>

b6 fixes and cleans up some log and remote stuff.

A new command entitled Alias is added to remote administration by e-mail. 
See the documentation for details.

Date: 21 Sep 98 09:10:31 -0500
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: RE: AutoShare 3.0b6

Autoshare beta 3.0b6 is now available by mail.

Send a message to =

mailit at stumail.hopkins.k12.mn dot us

with the word

autosharebeta

in the subject.  The latest beta will be returned to you by e-mail.

Contact me directly if you have any trouble with this service.

Chuck Boody
analyst/programmer
ISD 270

chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us
=============



Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 13:45:06 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: Autoshare not mute any more

At 3:02 PM +0200 on 9/18/98, Serge Belleudy-d'Espinose wrote:


> Hi again
>
> I solved my problem, but I'm not sure why.
>
> First I replaced 2.3 with 2.4.

That's what solved your problem.  :)

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Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 13:48:43 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare 3.0b6

At 8:33 PM -0700 on 9/20/98, Mikael Hansen wrote:


> The 3.0b6 archive has been uploaded to
>
>   <ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/>
>
> b6 fixes and cleans up some log and remote stuff.
>
> A new command entitled Alias is added to remote administration by e-mail.
> See the documentation for details.
>

Also available on a US Web Mirror at

http://pascal-central.com/autoshare/beta/AutoShare3.0b6.sit


Cheers!
Bill

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Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:12:21 -0700
From: "Michael C. Gilbert" <mcg at halcyon dot com>
Subject: error opening list in admin

Hi --

I'm using Autoshare 2.2. Using Autoshare Admin on an Appletalk LAN, I open
up the lists on the server. So far so good. Then I click on a particularly
large mailing list and, while I'm waiting for the subscribers to appear in
the right hand window, I get this error message:

	An error occurred while executing
	the script of «class LIST» "lists":
	Unable to set some data because.
	-11019. (-11019)

Insight anyone?

-- Michael



Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 21:39:38 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: error opening list in admin

At 15:12 -0700 9/21/98, Michael C. Gilbert wrote:

>Then I click on a particularly large mailing list

That's what the From and Count fields are for, because there can only be so 
many subscriber entries in memory at one time. You can also stretch it by 
giving the Admin more memory.

Versions later than 2.2 display a better message than the one you got.

Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 10:20:27 +0200
From: Jan Koudelka <koudelka at appleklub dot cz>
Subject: AutoShare Remote Admin CGI

Is anybody using my AutoShare Remote Admin CGI? A lot of people downloaded
it, but nobody sent me an e-mail to register, even if there is a note in
README, that it is completely FREE.

If nobody wants the complete remote administration by Web, I can work on
more interesting and important projects instead of developing product for
nobody.

HOnza

Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 10:17:21 +0200
From: Jan Koudelka <koudelka at appleklub dot cz>
Subject: Re: Autoshare mute

>At 15:17 +0200 9/18/98, Serge Belleudy-d'Espinose wrote:
>
>>Is there a way to tell if a preference file is corrupted? It contains no
>>resource fork.
>
>In 3.0, a sanity check is performed on the resource fork of the AutoShare
>preferences file(s) at start-up; if the verification fails, the AutoShare
>server application shuts down. The sanity check may be performed on any
>file's resource fork using the Verify File AppleScript command. Keep in
>mind though that the sanity check passes if there is no resource fork, as
>it must be present to potentially be bad.

It would be nice to have the following feature for the case that
verification fails:

1) An alias to Incomming Mail (for EIMS) or Submitted (for SIMS) in the
same folder AutoShare app is.

2) If the first condition is OK, then AutoShare will generate mail
addressed to "postmaster" containing a message that the Preferences file is
broken. Both EIMS and SIMS support using only name (without domain) for
local delivery, so the previous condition (the folder alias) is the only
one needed.

HOnza

Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 12:38:49 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare Remote Admin CGI

At 10:20 +0200 9/22/98, Jan Koudelka wrote:

>Is anybody using my AutoShare Remote Admin CGI?

It offers a neat interface to the preferences across the Internet, so I 
hope that it'll be updated for the 3.0 release. Honza, did you include 
sample CGI URLs in your notes?

If you don't have a web server running on the server Mac and still need 
access to the preferences across the Internet, I have for the next beta 
implemented SetRes, GetRes and Run commands for remote administration by 
e-mail. It works fine, but you need to read the section on "AutoShare 
Preferences and list-specific configuration" in the documentation.

Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 13:07:08 -0700
From: "Michael C. Gilbert" <mcg at halcyon dot com>
Subject: Re: error opening list in admin

At 9:39 PM -0700 9/21/98, Mikael Hansen wrote:

 * >Then I click on a particularly large mailing list
 *
 * That's what the From and Count fields are for, because there can only be =
so
 * many subscriber entries in memory at one time. You can also stretch it by
 * giving the Admin more memory.

Thank you! That all makes sense.

-- Michael