Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 07:52:10 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare 2.4b2
At 11:44 PM -0700 on 6/16/98, Mikael Hansen wrote:
> Version 2.4b2 has been uploaded to
>
> <ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/>
>
I'm getting a "user anonymous access denied" error when trying to connect.
Bill
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Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 09:18:32 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: Autoshare question revised
At 9:36 PM -0700 on 6/16/98, Mikael Hansen wrote:
>
> >How do I make this script only run on certain lists? I want it to run on=
ly
> >for the SYAC and SYGS lists, and I want to send a different welcome messa=
ge
> >(named "FAQ.<list_name>").
>
> Rather than have FAQ.<list_name> files, create a folder entitled FAQ
> (inside the documents folder) and put documents inside having list names.
>
From {Email:"camelot.admin@lmco dot com", Ename:"Camelot Postmaster"} ¬
Subject ("Hello from Mailing List: " & kList) ¬
Body String ("You were subscribed on " & kRFCDate) ¬
Precedence "bulk" Body Header "Subscribed" Body File ("FAQ:" & kList) ¬
Body Footer "Thank you"
Some more questions...
1) The string in Body String is never displayed. Any ideas?
2) What is Precendence "bulk" needed for?
3) The file is not showing up. I have the file located in a folder named
=46AQ within the Docs folder. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Bill
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 06:56:59 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare 2.4b2
At 07:52 -0700 17/6/1998, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>> <ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/>
>
>I'm getting a "user anonymous access denied" error when trying to connect.
dnai was most likely fine just a bit later.
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 06:58:41 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: More questions about Process Extender
At 07:49 -0700 17/6/1998, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>> The remote subscribe is an administrative approach, so it's different.
>
>The whole reason I'm trying this process extender approach is because I
>need to have the welcome message get sent when remote subscribes are done
>(Autoshare already has a built-in function for sending welcome messages for
>direct subscribes).
I see. The subscribe command in remote administration by e-mail does not
have a process extender hook. The only remote command that does is the
system command. I'll look into that.
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:44:54 -0500
From: "Richard Petty" <rwvr90 at email.sps.mot dot com>
Subject: Commands Type 10 Crashes
.
I moved from the 7200 to a 6100 (swapped hard disks.)
Still crashing.
Although I can't recall a direct correlation, I have experienced this
problem since I went to SIMS and not while I used EIMS.
--Richard
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 07:42:52 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: More questions about Process Extender
At 6:58 AM -0700 on 6/18/98, Mikael Hansen wrote:
> At 07:49 -0700 17/6/1998, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>
> >> The remote subscribe is an administrative approach, so it's different.
> >
> >The whole reason I'm trying this process extender approach is because I
> >need to have the welcome message get sent when remote subscribes are done
> >(Autoshare already has a built-in function for sending welcome messages for
> >direct subscribes).
>
> I see. The subscribe command in remote administration by e-mail does not
> have a process extender hook. The only remote command that does is the
> system command. I'll look into that.
>
Thanks.
Bill
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 07:50:16 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare 2.4b2
At 6:56 AM -0700 on 6/18/98, Mikael Hansen wrote:
> At 07:52 -0700 17/6/1998, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>
> >> <ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/>
> >
> >I'm getting a "user anonymous access denied" error when trying to connect.
>
> dnai was most likely fine just a bit later.
>
I got that message all day. In fact, I'm still getting it this morning.
I'm seeing the server, but the server isn't accepting anonymous
connections. Keeps saying that too many users are already attached.
What's the limit? One? ;)
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 10:03:15 -0500
From: "Richard Petty" <rwvr90 at email.sps.mot dot com>
Subject: Cmds Type10 Crashes Definition
.
I just checked the techref on one of Apple's dev sites:
ID=09 and ID=10 Line 1010 & 1111 Trap
There are many routines in the Macintosh ROM that can be called by placing
instructions in a program that aren't in the 68000's vocabulary. When the
68000 encounters such an instruction, it looks it up in the instruction table.
This table gives the location of routines paired with each instruction. If it
finds an entry in the table for the instruction, it branches to the routine.
If there's no entry for the instruction, you see one of these errors.
As a reminder, does this help?
--Richard
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 08:21:11 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Help!
I just upgraded from Autoshare 2.2 to 2.3 (I still cannot get the 2.4
beta), and now none of my lists appear to be working. All the files sent
to autoshare are just sitting in the Filed Mail folder.
Filed Mail folder:
Camelot:Auto:Filed Mail:
b1ae7985
b1ae7c1d
I quit Autoshare and restart it, but they still are not being processed.
What happened? What do I do to get Autoshare working again. Unfortunately
I did not save Autoshare 2.2 (I never experienced problems with any of the
previous upgrades, so I guess I got over-confident). Please help. My
mailing lists are essentially dead until I can figure out what to do to fix
this problem.
Regards,
Bill
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 10:53:40 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Need Autoshare 2.2
Would someone please e-mail me Autoshare 2.2? I'm desparate. I need to
get these lists back up and running before they start coming for me with a
rope. The _one_ time I delete the old version before testing the new
version, and I run into this. <sigh>
Please e-mail the PPC Autoshare application to camelot.admin at lmco dot com.
Thanks in advance!
Bill
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 18:33:43 +0100
From: Bill Bedford <billbpm at mousa.demon.co dot uk>
Subject: Re:Commands Type 10 Crashes
At 9:44 am -0500 18/06/98, Richard Petty wrote:
~.
~
~ I moved from the 7200 to a 6100 (swapped hard disks.)
~
~ Still crashing.
~
~ Although I can't recall a direct correlation, I have experienced this
~problem since I went to SIMS and not while I used EIMS.
~
Run Norton/ disk first aid on that disk..............
Bill Bedford
Owner Brit_Rail-L list for the history of railways in Britain
Subscribe at autoshare at mousa.demon.co dot uk
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 18:36:52 +0100
From: Bill Bedford <billbpm at mousa.demon.co dot uk>
Subject: Re:Help!
At 8:21 am -0700 18/06/98, Camelot Administrator wrote:
~I just upgraded from Autoshare 2.2 to 2.3 (I still cannot get the 2.4
~beta), and now none of my lists appear to be working. All the files sent
~to autoshare are just sitting in the Filed Mail folder.
~
~Filed Mail folder:
~Camelot:Auto:Filed Mail:
~ b1ae7985
~ b1ae7c1d
~
~
~I quit Autoshare and restart it, but they still are not being processed.
~What happened? What do I do to get Autoshare working again. Unfortunately
~I did not save Autoshare 2.2 (I never experienced problems with any of the
~previous upgrades, so I guess I got over-confident). Please help. My
~mailing lists are essentially dead until I can figure out what to do to fix
~this problem.
Use Resedit to check that you have no invisible icon files anywhere in the
Filed mail folder, and remove then. This is a problem you get id the disk
has ever been shared.
Bill Bedford
Owner Brit_Rail-L list for the history of railways in Britain
Subscribe at autoshare at mousa.demon.co dot uk
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 17:54:22 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare 2.4b2
At 07:50 -0700 18/6/1998, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>I got that message all day. In fact, I'm still getting it this morning.
>I'm seeing the server, but the server isn't accepting anonymous
>connections. Keeps saying that too many users are already attached.
>What's the limit? One? ;)
dnai seems fine to me. Has anyone else experienced problems?
Would someone in the US like to be a mirror site for the betas? :-)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 17:56:59 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re:Commands Type 10 Crashes
At 18:33 +0100 18/6/1998, Bill Bedford wrote:
>~ I moved from the 7200 to a 6100 (swapped hard disks.)
>~
>~ Still crashing.
>Run Norton/ disk first aid on that disk..............
Yes, that disk has a problem! Have you tried another disk?
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 17:59:07 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Autoshare question revised
At 09:18 -0700 17/6/1998, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>Some more questions...
Let's take further discussion to the autoshare-dev list :-)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 01:39:13 -0400
From: Jonathan Shaw <jls4 at cwru dot edu>
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 18 Jun 1998
> 3. Commands Type 10 Crashes
> "Richard Petty" <rwvr90 at email.sps.mot dot com>
> Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:44:54 -0500
>Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:44:54 -0500
>From: "Richard Petty" <rwvr90 at email.sps.mot dot com>
>Subject: Commands Type 10 Crashes
>
>.
>
> I moved from the 7200 to a 6100 (swapped hard disks.)
>
> Still crashing.
>
> Although I can't recall a direct correlation, I have experienced this
>problem since I went to SIMS and not while I used EIMS.
>
>
>--Richard
This may or may not help, but try increasing the memory for SIMS. You may
have tried this already. Be sure that you change this setting using
CommuniGate Client and NOT via the Finder's get info window. If you have
changed it through the Finder, it may be best to install a fresh copy of
the SIMS application file, and then only use CommuniGate to change memory
settings.
Also, SIMS seems to be a little bit less likely to crash if you run it as a
standard application rather than as a pseudo-system extension.
Finally, SIMS doesn't handle large recipient lists too efficiently in terms
of RAM requirements. Because of the way it processed new incoming messages,
it may take from a fraction of a second to several minutes to process new
incoming mail for your mailing list. I've complained about this many times
on the SIMS mailing list, but I have never received word from Vlad that
they will even consider fixing this. So basically, if you think your
computer has crashed because it seems like the system is frozen--give it a
few minutes and it may come back to life.
This e-mail makes it sound like SIMS has many flaws. It does have some
flaws, but I do still like it above the free version of EIMS. The
commercial EIMS is very nice and is possibly more efficient than SIMS in
many aspects. However, both programs have their pros and cons, so if you
have time to try each, I highly recommend doing so.
-Jonathan {;-)
Visit <http://b62968.cwru.edu/> for a good laugh.
There are 3 kinds of people: Those who make things happen, those who watch
things happen and those who wonder what happened.
Date: 19 Jun 98 08:24:23 -0500
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: Re: AutoShare 2.4b2
Mikael,
I probably could set up a mail back account (using a neat piece of =
software called Autoshare ;-> ) to return the beta to folks by e-mail if =
that would be helpful. Contact me off list to discuss the details if this =
seems a reasonable solution.
Chuck Boody
=============
Mikael Hansen wrote:
>At 07:50 -0700 18/6/1998, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>
>>I got that message all day. In fact, I'm still getting it this morning.
>>I'm seeing the server, but the server isn't accepting anonymous
>>connections. Keeps saying that too many users are already attached.
>>What's the limit? One? ;)
>
>dnai seems fine to me. Has anyone else experienced problems?
>
>Would someone in the US like to be a mirror site for the betas? :-)
>
>** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
>** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/AutoShare-Talk/>
>
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>Message-Id: <695582125732721175485 at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk>
>
Subject: 2.3 ignoring admin commands
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 98 09:15:22 -0500
From: Jon & Janelle Gardner <jgardner at kairosnet dot com>
OK, I'm on the list now. 2.3 won't accept any
commands...subscribe/unsubscribe/review/etc. or even any admin commands
with passwords. It grabs the mail from Filed Mail and moves it into the
AutoShare application directory. I don't have any invisible icon files in
the FM folder, and I've completely rebuilt my prefs from scratch. Mikael
says that this is a known problem. Shall I retrograde to 2.2, or is the
2.4 beta stable enough to use, and if so, what do I need to do to get a
copy?
For the record, I'm running OS 8.1 (standard HFS) on a 6100/66 with 24Mb
RAM.
And I'd be willing to host an ftp mirror site. Somebody email me at work:
<mailto:jon at ci.bryan.tx dot us>
Thanks,
Jon
<><
Jon & Janelle Gardner <mailto:jgardner at kairosnet dot com> <AOLIM:DaGardners>
Kairos Network Services <http://www.kairosnet.com/kairos/>
...as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord. (Joshua 24:15 NIV)
From: Laine Lee <LLee at utsa dot edu>
Subject: RE: 2.3 ignoring admin commands
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 09:34:44 -0500
Hi Jon and Janelle,
I believe the answer to this may be to use the Admin app to
set the folder paths that cannot be set directly from the AutoShare
app.
Here is a previous posting to which I refer:
Brian W. Ogilvie wrote:
>If the folders aren't configured, incoming messages to the autoshare
>account get moved from the Filed Mail folder to the folder containing
>the AutoShare 2.3 application without being processed. Other messages
>in the Filed Mail folder--to the autoreply address and list addresses--
>get processed normally. (I didn't test the poll account.)
>From: Jon & Janelle Gardner
>Subject: 2.3 ignoring admin commands
>
>OK, I'm on the list now. 2.3 won't accept any
>commands...subscribe/unsubscribe/review/etc. or even any admin
commands
>with passwords. It grabs the mail from Filed Mail and moves it
into the
>AutoShare application directory.
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 09:06:12 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: Autoshare question revised
At 5:59 PM -0700 on 6/18/98, Mikael Hansen wrote:
> At 09:18 -0700 17/6/1998, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>
> >Some more questions...
>
> Let's take further discussion to the autoshare-dev list :-)
>
Okay, but I'm not on that list. How can I get subscribed?
Bill
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 09:09:31 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare 2.4b2
At 5:54 PM -0700 on 6/18/98, Mikael Hansen wrote:
> At 07:50 -0700 18/6/1998, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>
> >I got that message all day. In fact, I'm still getting it this morning.
> >I'm seeing the server, but the server isn't accepting anonymous
> >connections. Keeps saying that too many users are already attached.
> >What's the limit? One? ;)
>
> dnai seems fine to me. Has anyone else experienced problems?
>
> Would someone in the US like to be a mirror site for the betas? :-)
>
Later yesterday afternoon, I was finally able to get onto the site. I then
grabbed the latest beta, as well as 2.2. I quickly downgraded to 2.2, and
everything was working again. I figured I'd let things work for awhile
before upgrading to 2.4. :)
Mikael, I would be happy to mirror the betas as well as the previous two
versions at Pascal Central. If you are interested, please e-mail me at
bill.m.catambay at lmco dot com. Autoshare is already featured on the PascalWare
page, so having the full applications mirrored would be appropriate.
Cheers!
Bill
PS: Let me know how to subscribe to that "other" dev autoshare list so I
can continue posting questions. :)
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 17:19:03 +0100
From: James Berriman <J.R.Berriman at staffs.ac dot uk>
Subject: AutoShare 2.4b2 available via http and email
2.4b2 is now available at
<http://www.dcl.co.uk/MacOS/email/autoshare/AutoShare-2.4b2.sit.bin>
or via email:
<mailto:autoshare-software at dcl.co.uk?subject=AutoShare-2.4b2 dot sit>
( :-]) James
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 09:19:59 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: Help!
At 6:36 PM +0100 on 6/18/98, Bill Bedford wrote:
> At 8:21 am -0700 18/06/98, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>
> ~I just upgraded from Autoshare 2.2 to 2.3 (I still cannot get the 2.4
> ~beta), and now none of my lists appear to be working. All the files sent
> ~to autoshare are just sitting in the Filed Mail folder.
> ~
> ~Filed Mail folder:
> ~Camelot:Auto:Filed Mail:
> ~ b1ae7985
> ~ b1ae7c1d
> ~
> ~
> ~I quit Autoshare and restart it, but they still are not being processed.
> ~What happened? What do I do to get Autoshare working again. Unfortunately
> ~I did not save Autoshare 2.2 (I never experienced problems with any of the
> ~previous upgrades, so I guess I got over-confident). Please help. My
> ~mailing lists are essentially dead until I can figure out what to do to fix
> ~this problem.
>
> Use Resedit to check that you have no invisible icon files anywhere in the
> Filed mail folder, and remove then. This is a problem you get id the disk
> has ever been shared.
>
The invisible icon file was present, but this disk is always shared. Is
this going to be a recurring problem? I thought this was an old problem
introduced with OS 8 which has since then been fixed. It's curious that
the problem did not exist with 2.2, but did with 2.3. I'm a little worried
about moving to 2.4 right now.
Bill
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Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 18 Jun 1998
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 98 17:10:48 +0000
From: Franck Horlaville <fhlist at online.co dot ma>
>I just upgraded from Autoshare 2.2 to 2.3 (I still cannot get the 2.4
>beta), and now none of my lists appear to be working. All the files sent
>to autoshare are just sitting in the Filed Mail folder.
>
>Filed Mail folder:
>Camelot:Auto:Filed Mail:
> b1ae7985
> b1ae7c1d
Check that the paths are correct, _all_ the paths, including the two
found somewhere else that I can't remember
Franck Horlaville,
Technical Director - Athena Online s.a.
Web site creation and hosting
--
<http://www.athena.online.co.ma>
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 11:11:01 -0500
From: "Richard Petty" <rwvr90 at email.sps.mot dot com>
Subject: Esoteric Problem (was Command Crashes)
.
SIMS is fine. It's a great program that hasn't cause problems for me at
all. No pauses (but then it's lock away in a closet!)
I'd already done a fresh re-install of all my software, including SIMS, and
always give my applications at least 50% more RAM than they officially require.
I sent one of the files that crashes my copy of AutoShare to Mikael and he
said that it that he was able to process it with no problem! That's great
because I thought maybe SIMS was inserting some sort of funky characters into
"command" files that was a problem for AutoShare.
Now the only thing I haven't eliminated is the hard disks themselves. Talk
about an esoteric problem. I suppose it IS possible that when AutoShare
processes a listserver command that it may make some obscure demand on a hard
disk or driver, but until now you wouldn't have been able to make me believe it.
I'll swap the hard drives and see what happens.
--Richard
PS: Funny, I noticed when I swapped computers that sometime
in the past I'd marked one of the hard disks as having
a "bad card". I put it away. Later when I started setting
up the server I messed with it again and was able to get
it working. Maybe it IS a bad drive...
Jonathan Shaw wrote:
>
> > 3. Commands Type 10 Crashes
> > "Richard Petty" <rwvr90 at email.sps.mot dot com>
> > I moved from the 7200 to a 6100 (swapped hard disks.)
> >
> > Still crashing.
> >
> > Although I can't recall a direct correlation, I have experienced this
> >problem since I went to SIMS and not while I used EIMS.
> >
> >
> >--Richard
>
> This may or may not help, but try increasing the memory for SIMS. You may
> have tried this already. Be sure that you change this setting using
> CommuniGate Client and NOT via the Finder's get info window. If you have
> changed it through the Finder, it may be best to install a fresh copy of
> the SIMS application file, and then only use CommuniGate to change memory
> settings.
>
> Also, SIMS seems to be a little bit less likely to crash if you run it as a
> standard application rather than as a pseudo-system extension.
>
> Finally, SIMS doesn't handle large recipient lists too efficiently in terms
> of RAM requirements. Because of the way it processed new incoming messages,
> it may take from a fraction of a second to several minutes to process new
> incoming mail for your mailing list. I've complained about this many times
> on the SIMS mailing list, but I have never received word from Vlad that
> they will even consider fixing this. So basically, if you think your
> computer has crashed because it seems like the system is frozen--give it a
> few minutes and it may come back to life.
>
> This e-mail makes it sound like SIMS has many flaws. It does have some
> flaws, but I do still like it above the free version of EIMS. The
> commercial EIMS is very nice and is possibly more efficient than SIMS in
> many aspects. However, both programs have their pros and cons, so if you
> have time to try each, I highly recommend doing so.
>
> -Jonathan {;-)
> Visit <http://b62968.cwru.edu/> for a good laugh.
>
> There are 3 kinds of people: Those who make things happen, those who watch
> things happen and those who wonder what happened.
>
> ** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
> ** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/AutoShare-Talk/>
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 12:52:19 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Autoshare question revised
At 09:06 -0700 19/6/1998, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>Okay, but I'm not on that list. How can I get subscribed?
sub autoshare-dev <name> in the body to autoshare at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk
or
<mailto:autoshare-dev-on at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk>
but I'm sure you knew that already :-) Same way as the talk list.
In any event, the info is on <http://www.dnai.com/~meh/autoshare/>.
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 12:56:33 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Mirror sites
Thanks to the people who offered to mirror the betas! I'll get back to you
when the next beta is ready :-)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 20:01:26 +0100
From: Bill Bedford <billbpm at mousa.demon.co dot uk>
Subject: Re: Help!
At 9:19 am -0700 19/06/98, Camelot Administrator wrote:
~At 6:36 PM +0100 on 6/18/98, Bill Bedford wrote:
~>
~> Use Resedit to check that you have no invisible icon files anywhere in the
~> Filed mail folder, and remove then. This is a problem you get id the disk
~> has ever been shared.
~>
~
~The invisible icon file was present, but this disk is always shared. Is
~this going to be a recurring problem? I thought this was an old problem
~introduced with OS 8 which has since then been fixed. It's curious that
~the problem did not exist with 2.2, but did with 2.3. I'm a little worried
~about moving to 2.4 right now.
~
I found the same problem when I upgraded to Autoshare 2.3. The problem is
with OS 8.0 and is fixed with 8.1, but the old icon files are not removed.
You have to strip out the icon file from *all* the autoshare folders by
hand. Once you have done that AS 2.4 should work as advertised.
Bill Bedford
Owner Brit_Rail-L list for the history of railways in Britain
Subscribe at autoshare at mousa.demon.co dot uk
Subject: Re: 2.3 ignoring admin commands
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 98 17:52:23 -0500
From: Jon & Janelle Gardner <jgardner at kairosnet dot com>
> I believe the answer to this may be to use the Admin app to
>set the folder paths that cannot be set directly from the AutoShare
>app.
>
> Here is a previous posting to which I refer:
>
>Brian W. Ogilvie wrote:
>
>>If the folders aren't configured, incoming messages to the autoshare
>>account get moved from the Filed Mail folder to the folder containing
>>the AutoShare 2.3 application without being processed. Other messages
>>in the Filed Mail folder--to the autoreply address and list addresses--
>>get processed normally. (I didn't test the poll account.)
>
I don't believe that this is the problem here. I've been serving several
lists, some with several hundred members, for about a year now with
AutoShare, and I have yet to have any problems...until 2.3.
All of the folder paths are set properly. 2.2 was working perfectly (and
is so again, now that I've retrograged) with the same set of prefs. All I
did was quit 2.3, replaced it with 2.2, started 2.2, and dragged all of
the ignored messages from the AutoShare folder back into the Filed Mail
folder, at which point 2.2 processed them properly.
Apparently, 2.3 is ignoring the folder path prefs under certain
conditions.
Jon
<><
Jon & Janelle Gardner <mailto:jgardner at kairosnet dot com> <AOLIM:DaGardners>
Kairos Network Services <http://www.kairosnet.com/kairos/>
...as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord. (Joshua 24:15 NIV)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 19:12:38 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: 2.3 ignoring admin commands
At 17:52 -0500 19/6/1998, Jon & Janelle Gardner wrote:
>Apparently, 2.3 is ignoring the folder path prefs under certain
>conditions.
It was fixed in 2.4b1:
At 01:41 -0700 27/5/1998, Mikael Hansen wrote:
>Brian W. Ogilvie wrote:
>
>>If the folders aren't configured, incoming messages to the autoshare
>>account get moved from the Filed Mail folder to the folder containing
>>the AutoShare 2.3 application without being processed. Other messages
>>in the Filed Mail folder--to the autoreply address and list addresses--
>>get processed normally. (I didn't test the poll account.)
>
>I looked into it and have reproduced it. It happens when mail-backs or
>automated bounces are activated and the respective folder is not specified.
>Fixed. Thanks again for pointing this out.
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 22:27:02 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Help!
At 20:01 +0100 19/6/1998, Bill Bedford wrote:
>I found the same problem when I upgraded to Autoshare 2.3. The problem is
>with OS 8.0 and is fixed with 8.1, but the old icon files are not removed.
>You have to strip out the icon file from *all* the autoshare folders by
>hand. Once you have done that AS 2.4 should work as advertised.
The last time I tried putting some invisible files in the Filed Mail
folder, I couldn't reproduce it. I have now done various tests again and
still cannot reproduce it.
If you run into this, please send me all files in the Filed Mail folder (or
other folders), so that I can try to reproduce it. When making the
necessary file(s) visible before putting all of them in a StuffIt archive
to send to me, be sure to leave the file(s) completely intact (software
such as DiskTools from the DiskTools Collection does not change any of the
Finder dates when updating the visible status).
And be sure to use 2.4b2! I am not aware of any bugs in this beta and would
like to keep it that way for a while before releasing it :-)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 13:56:33 -0400
From: Jerry Thompson <mlists at ppdirect dot com>
Subject: Digests Not Working...
Greetings,
What's the best way to remove all of AS's configurations besides simply
throwing away the preferences for it? The problem that I'm having is that
one of the my lists digest function isn't working. The normal mailing list
works fine with <listname.m at virtualdomain dot com>. However the digest
doesn't. Instead of using the correct domain, it uses the server's actual
domain of PPDIRECT.COM. <listname.d at ppdirect dot com> gets bounced to the
postmaster account because there is no acct with that name setup under
PPDIRECT.COM.
I'm using EIMS 2.1 and AS 2.2.
I've tried rebuilding the problem list from scratch and rebuilding AS's
complete preferences for ALL of the lists. Nothing seems to make the
digest work correctly. Where can I physically go in a make a change which
would work? Is there a #str resource somewhere I can change?
Best Regards,
Jerry
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 12:11:01 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Digests Not Working...
At 13:56 -0400 21/6/1998, Jerry Thompson wrote:
>The normal mailing list works fine with <listname.m at virtualdomain dot com>.
>However the digest doesn't. Instead of using the correct domain, it uses
>the server's actual domain of PPDIRECT.COM. <listname.d at ppdirect dot com>
>gets bounced to the postmaster account because there is no acct with that
>name setup under PPDIRECT.COM.
Unless you use the multiple preferences feature, there is no way for
AutoShare to know which domain to use with digests, so it uses the default
domain. It's different with individual list contributions, whose domain in
the recipient address helps out here.
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 20:42:44 -0400
From: mlists <mlists at ppdirect dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 21 Jun 1998
>Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 12:11:01 -0700
>From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
>Subject: Re: Digests Not Working...
>
>At 13:56 -0400 21/6/1998, Jerry Thompson wrote:
>
>>The normal mailing list works fine with <listname.m at virtualdomain dot com>.
>>However the digest doesn't. Instead of using the correct domain, it uses
>>the server's actual domain of PPDIRECT.COM. <listname.d at ppdirect dot com>
>>gets bounced to the postmaster account because there is no acct with that
>>name setup under PPDIRECT.COM.
>
>Unless you use the multiple preferences feature, there is no way for
>AutoShare to know which domain to use with digests, so it uses the default
>domain. It's different with individual list contributions, whose domain in
>the recipient address helps out here.
When you set multiple preferences, do they need to point to separate
folders? Or can all of the preferences point to the same folders that was
setup under single-preference Autoshare.
BTW, would it be possible to create a field within the admin, through the
list preferences section, the domain name it should that respective list
should use?
Best Regards,
Jerry
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 20:38:34 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 21 Jun 1998
At 20:42 -0400 21/6/1998, mlists wrote:
>When you set multiple preferences, do they need to point to separate
>folders?
Yes.
>BTW, would it be possible to create a field within the admin, through the
>list preferences section, the domain name it should that respective list
>should use?
It is possible, but it would be adding to an ad hoc scheme, which never
required any configuration and which I stopped working on when the multiple
preferences feature started taking form.
The multiple preferences approach is much cleaner. And once you have
configured the initial basics for the additional set of preferences and
gotten used to running multiple sets of preferences and documents, it's
pretty much business as usual.
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 12:44:51 +0200
From: Jan Koudelka <koudelka at appleklub dot cz>
Subject: AutoShare Remote Admin 1.1
Hi all!
Not so early as I expected, but AutoShare Remote Admin 1.1 is now availeble
from the following addresses.
ftp://ftp.appleklub.cz/pub/inet/AutoShareRemoteAdmin_11.sit
hotline://hotline.appleklub.cz/pub/inet/AutoShareRemoteAdmin_11.sit
Major changes in the version 1.1:
- compatibility with AutoShare 2.3
- debugging and logging abilities
Please send me some feedback, if you use it. If you want to help me making
the Remote Admin more stable and bug-free, please test it with debugging
turned on.
To use debugging, when you first enter its URL into the Netscape's URL box,
add a parameter "?debug=mode" to the end.
(For example "http://my.server.com/AutoShareAdmin.acgi?debug=log")
Valid debugging modes are:
none debugging and logging is off
full logs and displays full info
brief logs and displays basic info
log logs all requests for changing configuration
display displays full info, does not write to log
Debugging will stay set to specified mode until you select another one.
I strongly recommend you to limit access to the Remote Admin by creating
password blocked realms.
Note: You can benefit from setting the mode to "log", if you want to allow
several users to configure AutoShare remotely.
Sincerely,
HOnza Koudelka
--
_ Jan Koudelka, predseda | mailto:koudelka at appleklub dot cz
(_( -------------------------------|-----------------------------
' Klub pratel pocitacu Macintosh | http://www.appleklub.cz/
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:17:12 +0200
From: Jan Koudelka <koudelka at appleklub dot cz>
Subject: Re: 2.3 ignoring admin commands
>At 17:52 -0500 19/6/1998, Jon & Janelle Gardner wrote:
>
>>Apparently, 2.3 is ignoring the folder path prefs under certain
>>conditions.
>
>It was fixed in 2.4b1:
Mikael, if you fixed it in 2.4b1, do you know the conditions which cause
ignoring folder preferences?
HOnza
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:41:28 +0200
From: Jan Koudelka <koudelka at appleklub dot cz>
Subject: What version to use?
What is the most stable version just now? I do not like to use betas on a
server since I don't have local access very often, but is it safe to use
2.3?
HOnza
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:31:35 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: 2.3 ignoring admin commands
At 14:17 +0200 22/6/1998, Jan Koudelka wrote:
>Mikael, if you fixed it in 2.4b1, do you know the conditions which cause
>ignoring folder preferences?
It would happen in 2.3 "when mail-backs or automated bounces are activated
and the respective folder is not specified".
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:33:18 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: What version to use?
At 14:41 +0200 22/6/1998, Jan Koudelka wrote:
>What is the most stable version just now? I do not like to use betas on a
>server since I don't have local access very often, but is it safe to use
>2.3?
I am not aware of any bugs in 2.4b2 and do not have any problem releasing
it at this time. But as I am in no rush, let's a little wait to make sure,
so you have a good chance to test it out.
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:35:54 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare Remote Admin 1.1
At 12:44 +0200 22/6/1998, Jan Koudelka wrote:
>Not so early as I expected, but AutoShare Remote Admin 1.1 is now availeble
>from the following addresses.
>
>ftp://ftp.appleklub.cz/pub/inet/AutoShareRemoteAdmin_11.sit
>hotline://hotline.appleklub.cz/pub/inet/AutoShareRemoteAdmin_11.sit
>
>Major changes in the version 1.1:
>
> - compatibility with AutoShare 2.3
> - debugging and logging abilities
Wonderful!
As 2.4b2 includes only minimal AppleScript changes from 2.3 (Write Log,
SetFilters, SetRes/GetRes), an AutoShare Remote Admin compatible with 2.4
may hopefully not be far away :-)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 17:11:51 +0200
From: Jan Koudelka <koudelka at appleklub dot cz>
Subject: Re: AutoShare Remote Admin 1.1
>As 2.4b2 includes only minimal AppleScript changes from 2.3 (Write Log,
>SetFilters, SetRes/GetRes), an AutoShare Remote Admin compatible with 2.4
>may hopefully not be far away :-)
It should be already, since you only added options, not changed existing
ones...
But, for sure, I have to test it first.
HOnza
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 16:32:24 -0400
From: Jerry Thompson <mlists at ppdirect dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 22 Jun 1998
>Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 20:38:34 -0700
>From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
>Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 21 Jun 1998
>
>At 20:42 -0400 21/6/1998, mlists wrote:
>
>>When you set multiple preferences, do they need to point to separate
>>folders?
>
>Yes.
>
>>BTW, would it be possible to create a field within the admin, through the
>>list preferences section, the domain name it should that respective list
>>should use?
>
>It is possible, but it would be adding to an ad hoc scheme, which never
>required any configuration and which I stopped working on when the multiple
>preferences feature started taking form.
>
>The multiple preferences approach is much cleaner. And once you have
>configured the initial basics for the additional set of preferences and
>gotten used to running multiple sets of preferences and documents, it's
>pretty much business as usual.
It works beautifully. My digests are working now. Running multiple
instances is simpler to decipher incoming and outgoing events.
My only problem is that using the 2.3 Admin, I open the Lists window.
Sometimes, clicking on the list and then choosing one of the bottoms gives
me an error message. And the window that opens up has no configuration
information in it at all. Trying that a few times, brings up the same
error.
"An error occurred while executing the script of window
"Subscriber": No result was returned from some part of this expression.
(-2763)"
Is the message I get opening a subscriber. However, closing the list
window and reselecting the Autoshare app, seems to correct it... sometimes.
Other times, I open the List window and it shows all of my lists and
subscribers, but selecting any one of them to make a change will either
give me an error similar to the above or show me a window with zero
configuration info. (<---- is that a long sentence of what?!?!?!)
Then, closing the windows and reselecting the app usually corrects it for a
few minutes.
Any thoughts?
Jerry
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 21:23:19 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 22 Jun 1998
At 16:32 -0400 22/6/1998, Jerry Thompson wrote:
>It works beautifully. My digests are working now. Running multiple
>instances is simpler to decipher incoming and outgoing events.
Happy to hear that! I haven't tried it for a while, so I played around with
it a little this evening.
>My only problem is that using the 2.3 Admin, I open the Lists window.
>Sometimes, clicking on the list and then choosing one of the bottoms gives
>me an error message. And the window that opens up has no configuration
>information in it at all.
When using the Admin with an AutoShare server using multiple preferences,
the thing to do at start-up is Command-U (the Multiple Preferences menu
item from Preferences), so that you work with a given set of preferences.
Otherwise the server gets confused.
And then I ran into this little thing (ah, a bug!) in the Admin's
AppleScript code, which initially does cause some funny more or less
arbitrary errors like those that you mention. It didn't take long at all to
fix really, but it's annoying because the Admin thinks it knows where
AutoShare is, and it really doesn't.
I have sent the Admin with the fix by personal e-mail. Let me know.
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 16:21:16 +0200
From: Jan Koudelka <koudelka at appleklub dot cz>
Subject: Unresolved bounced - idea
What to do with unresolved bounces?
That's very often question. May be I found an answer.
Usually these bounces are caused by addresses, which are only aliases to
another addresses. And, if username is not same or similar, there is no way
to find out, which address caused the problem, so it cannot be unsubscribed.
I think there is a way, how to solve this problem. Almost every mailserver
includes an original message, or at least header history, containing also
the original recipient's address. If AutoShare scans all recipient
addresses in that message and compare them with the list, result is only
few addresses. Usually one, but not always. But, after receiving next error
message for the same recipient, it is good idea to look, which address was
in both messages. If it is only one address, I'm almost sure that it is the
bouncing address.
What do you think about that?
HOnza
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 16:33:39 +0200
From: Jan Koudelka <koudelka at appleklub dot cz>
Subject: Analysis from AutoShare
>AutoShare path:
>Server:AutoShare 2.3:
>System Preferences path:
>System:System Folder:Preferences:
>AutoShare Preferences path:
>Server:Listserver:AutoShare prefs:
>
>
>Disk usage:
>Disk Server has 313,040,896 bytes available
>Disk System has 147,320,832 bytes available
>Disk Server has 313,040,896 bytes available
It looks like AutoShare analyzes only system disk and the disks it uses for
itself. What about analyzing all mounted disks instead? I would appreciate
it.
>Macintosh memory:
>Low memory size: 10K
>Logical RAM size: 49,152K
What about largest free block of memory for running new applications?
>Filed Mail folder:
>Server:Listserver:Filed Mail:
> F.48827-1
... and so on. It would be nice to be able to disable folder listing. For
example by addind a parameter to the analysis command:
<password> analysis NOLIST
HOnza
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 19:51:31 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Analysis from AutoShare
At 16:33 +0200 23/6/1998, Jan Koudelka wrote:
>For example by addind a parameter to the analysis command:
>
><password> analysis NOLIST
The analysis file is basically a series of sections, so that's possible.
Actually I wouldn't be surprised if you could script your very own analysis
file design all together!
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 23:12:58 -0400
From: Jonathan Shaw <jls4 at cwru dot edu>
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 23 Jun 1998
> 3. Unresolved bounced - idea
> Jan Koudelka <koudelka at appleklub dot cz>
> Tue, 23 Jun 1998 16:21:16 +0200
>What to do with unresolved bounces?
[...trimmed...]
>the original recipient's address. If AutoShare scans all recipient
>addresses in that message and compare them with the list, result is only
>few addresses. Usually one, but not always. But, after receiving next error
>message for the same recipient, it is good idea to look, which address was
>in both messages. If it is only one address, I'm almost sure that it is the
>bouncing address.
>
>What do you think about that?
This is a good suggestion--but in these cases, AutoShare should be
detecting the e-mail address in the mail header in the first place. For me,
the most troublesome bounces are those that do not indicate the recipient's
e-mail address (and sometimes not even the hostname!!) anywhere at all in
the entire bounced message. If I can remember correctly, this problem is
most notable with usa.net addresses. For these, you must write to their
administrator about it, who will then reply with the user's address for the
bounce.
A solution would be for AutoShare to individually send a message to each
list recipient and to include this recipient's address in the mail header
or the message itself. I don't like this solution very much, though! It
puts a lot of added stress on the mail server, and greatly increases the
disk usage, posting time, etc.
>HOnza
-Jonathan {;-)
Visit <http://b62968.cwru.edu/> for a good laugh.
There are 3 kinds of people: Those who make things happen, those who watch
things happen and those who wonder what happened.
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 20:33:07 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Unresolved bounced - idea
At 16:21 +0200 23/6/1998, Jan Koudelka wrote:
>What do you think about that?
Would you send me a sample bounce with notes? Thanks.
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 21:33:23 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Help!
It turns out that a bug surfaces if the invisible file has a resource fork.
My thanks to Bill Bedford, whom I have sent a fix to try out.