Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 20:32:14 -0700 From: rdegel at 1.mmink dot com (Rick Degelsmith) Subject: x-List RFC fields hi folks, I'm new to the list. I checked the FAQ, web pages, install instructions.... It seems like the RFC-x-list fields have been added to the Outgoing announcements on my autoshare server. The documentation (1.3 addendum) says they're "helpful," but I can't find any other info on it at all. I do not want to the fields to show (or at least not all of them). Seems there must be a way to eliminate/choose them; have I missed something obvious? Help please? thanks, Rick ****************************************************************** RICK DEGELSMITH, M.A. MULTIMEDIA INK DESIGNS Media Director, Internet Ad Emporium Voice (619)679-8317 14544 High Pine Street, Poway CA 92064 FAX (619)679-1536 http://mmink.com/ EMAIL: rdegel at mmink dot com ******************************************************************
From: Roger_Booth at pubshop.demon.co dot uk Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 14:42:57 +0100 Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 18 May 1997 Is there a "user manual" that shows pictures of the screens you get using AutoShare admin. I am finding it hard understanding what information should go where iwhen setting up lists. Thanks
Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 12:20:46 -0700 From: Bill Catambay <admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com> Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 18 May 1997 At 2:42 PM +0100 on 5/20/97, Roger_Booth at pubshop.demon.co dot uk wrote: > Is there a "user manual" that shows pictures of the screens you get using > AutoShare admin. I am finding it hard understanding what information >should go > where iwhen setting up lists. > I don't know about the pictures, but if you have specific questions, I'm sure some of us can be of help. Bill _____________________________________________________________________ Bill Catambay Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, EIS Webmaster <http://www.catambay.com/pascal-central> /> // Excalibur: Morgana's Revenge is released! (//////[O]>=========================================- \\ <http://www.catambay.com/morgana> \> ____________________________________________________________________
Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 13:15:53 -0800 From: Robert Orenstein <rlo at glyphic dot com> Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 18 May 1997 >Is there a "user manual" that shows pictures of the screens you get using >AutoShare admin. I am finding it hard understanding what information should go >where iwhen setting up lists. Have you tried turning on the help balloons? The information there is pretty helpful. Robert Orenstein
Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 15:47:30 -0700 From: (Kurt Kohler) <kohler at ao dot com> Subject: Auto-archiving not working? I recently got AutoShare with the intention of switching a mailing list I run to it from the simple mailing list feature in EIMS. Everything seems to be working fine, except that I can't get the archiving to work. I tried selecting a path to my web directory (which is mounted with AppleShare (actually netatalk)) first in the global list configuration and later in the one specific to my list. I've never seen anything show up in the configured folder. Thinking there might be a problem with remote disks, I tried pointing at a local folder but that didn't work either. Does anyone have any idea what I might be doing wrong? If I understand the docs correctly, all that's needed is to define a folder to save the created html pages in. Is there something else? I'm running 7.6.1 on a 7100/66AV if that matters. Kurt Kohler Alpha Omega Computer Systems, Inc. Corvallis, OR Email: <mailto:kohler at ao dot com> Home page: <http://www.ao.com/~kohler/>
Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 16:12:54 -0700 From: "Steve van Mossel (604-953-3431)" <stevev at weq.gov.bc dot ca> Subject: The Review Command I would like to be able to open up all my lists to the public, for "review" (ie. even if a person is not a subscriber, they can review the lists recipients). I have set the "list type" to open, but this seems to have no effect on the "review" command. Does anyone know if this is possible, or how to do it? Cheers, Steve --------------------------------------------------------- Steve van Mossel Network Analyst Ministry of Women's Equality (250) 953-3431 <mailto:stevev at weq.gov.bc dot ca> <http://www.weq.gov.bc.ca/> ---------------------------------------------------------
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 08:41:25 -0400 From: wsuarez at digprod dot com (Bill Suarez) Subject: Re: The Review Command Steve, Are you using the "review all" command? Bill Suarez _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: The Review Command From: autoshare-talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk at Internet Date: 5/20/97 4:12 PM I would like to be able to open up all my lists to the public, for "review" (ie. even if a person is not a subscriber, they can review the lists recipients). I have set the "list type" to open, but this seems to have no effect on the "review" command. Does anyone know if this is possible, or how to do it? Cheers, Steve --------------------------------------------------------- Steve van Mossel Network Analyst Ministry of Women's Equality (250) 953-3431 <mailto:stevev at weq.gov.bc dot ca> <http://www.weq.gov.bc.ca/> --------------------------------------------------------- ** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at: ** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/AutoShare-Talk/>
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 09:15:59 -0700 From: "Steve van Mossel (604-953-3431)" <stevev at weq.gov.bc dot ca> Subject: Re: The Review Command I am using a web form, so that my clients have an easy-to-use tool where they can review the recipients on any given list. I have set up the form so that they click to select a distribution list name, and they fill in their email address, and the review results are emailed to them The command in the Web form I'm using is "review" Cheers, steve ---------- At 5:41 AM -0700 5/21/97, Bill Suarez wrote: >Steve, > >Are you using the "review all" command? > >Bill Suarez >__________________________________________________________ >I would like to be able to open up all my lists to the public, for "review" >(ie. even if a person is not a subscriber, they can review the lists >recipients). > > I have set the "list type" to open, but this seems to have no effect on >the "review" command. > >Does anyone know if this is possible, or how to do it? > >Cheers, >Steve > >--------------------------------------------------------- > Steve van Mossel Network Analyst > Ministry of Women's Equality (250) 953-3431 > ><mailto:stevev at weq.gov.bc dot ca> ><http://www.weq.gov.bc.ca/> > >--------------------------------------------------------- > > > >** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at: >** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/AutoShare-Talk/> > >** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at: >** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/AutoShare-Talk/> --------------------------------------------------------- Steve van Mossel Network Analyst Ministry of Women's Equality (250) 953-3431 <mailto:stevev at weq.gov.bc dot ca> <http://www.weq.gov.bc.ca/> ---------------------------------------------------------
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 12:57:50 -0400 From: wsuarez at digprod dot com (Bill Suarez) Subject: Re[2]: The Review Command If memory serves Steve......the "review <list>" will only work if the user is subscribed to that list. I don't believe you can "review" a list that you are not subscribed to. I just doubled checked against my 1.3 AutoShare server and both Review <list> and review all will work unless you are subscribed to a list(s). Bill _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: Re: The Review Command From: autoshare-talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk at Internet Date: 5/21/97 9:15 AM I am using a web form, so that my clients have an easy-to-use tool where they can review the recipients on any given list. I have set up the form so that they click to select a distribution list name, and they fill in their email address, and the review results are emailed to them The command in the Web form I'm using is "review" Cheers, steve ---------- At 5:41 AM -0700 5/21/97, Bill Suarez wrote: >Steve, > >Are you using the "review all" command? > >Bill Suarez >__________________________________________________________ >I would like to be able to open up all my lists to the public, for "review" >(ie. even if a person is not a subscriber, they can review the lists >recipients). > > I have set the "list type" to open, but this seems to have no effect on >the "review" command. > >Does anyone know if this is possible, or how to do it? > >Cheers, >Steve > >--------------------------------------------------------- > Steve van Mossel Network Analyst > Ministry of Women's Equality (250) 953-3431 > ><mailto:stevev at weq.gov.bc dot ca> ><http://www.weq.gov.bc.ca/> > >--------------------------------------------------------- > > > >** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at: >** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/AutoShare-Talk/> > >** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at: >** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/AutoShare-Talk/> --------------------------------------------------------- Steve van Mossel Network Analyst Ministry of Women's Equality (250) 953-3431 <mailto:stevev at weq.gov.bc dot ca> <http://www.weq.gov.bc.ca/> --------------------------------------------------------- ** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at: ** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/AutoShare-Talk/>
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 10:33:19 -0700 From: "Steve van Mossel (604-953-3431)" <stevev at weq.gov.bc dot ca> Subject: Re: x-List RFC fields I also would like to manipulate the X-whatever: fields in the email header. In particular, I would like to remove the line: X-To-Unsubscribe: autoshare at my dot server, subject: unsub my_list And I am also interested to know the trick. How does the line: <color><param>FFFF,0000,0000</param>Reply-To: AutoShare-Talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk </color>come out in red (it might be a Eudora setting of mine, but I can't see it anywhere) Cheers, steve ---------------- At 8:32 PM -0700 5/19/97, Rick Degelsmith wrote: >It seems like the RFC-x-list fields have been added to the Outgoing >announcements on my autoshare server. The documentation (1.3 addendum) >says they're "helpful," but I can't find any other info on it at all. > >I do not want to the fields to show (or at least not all of them). > >Seems there must be a way to eliminate/choose them; have I missed something >obvious? --------------------------------------------------------- Steve van Mossel Network Analyst Ministry of Women's Equality (250) 953-3431 <<mailto:stevev at weq.gov.bc dot ca> <<http://www.weq.gov.bc.ca/> ---------------------------------------------------------
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 15:00:46 -0700 From: Bill Catambay <admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com> Subject: Re: Auto-archiving not working? At 3:47 PM -0700 on 5/20/97, Kurt Kohler wrote: > I recently got AutoShare with the intention of switching a mailing list I > run to it from the simple mailing list feature in EIMS. > > Everything seems to be working fine, except that I can't get the > archiving to work. I tried selecting a path to my web directory (which is > mounted with AppleShare (actually netatalk)) first in the global list > configuration and later in the one specific to my list. I've never seen > anything show up in the configured folder. Thinking there might be a > problem with remote disks, I tried pointing at a local folder but that > didn't work either. > > Does anyone have any idea what I might be doing wrong? If I understand > the docs correctly, all that's needed is to define a folder to save the > created html pages in. Is there something else? I'm not sure what your web directory has to do with archiving your list. Maybe I misunderstand what you're asking, but I'll go ahead and throw in my 2 cents anyway. For your list, among other folders, you need an archive folder (mine is called "Archives") in your "Auto" folder, and your list admin should show that as your archive folder. A folder is then created in that archive folder given the same name as my list, and within that folder are 4 files: current.html - archived posts current.toc - summary of archived posts digest.html - digest being created digest.toc - summary of digest being created I'm by no means an expert on all this stuff, but I do have this working fine for my list. Cheers, Bill _____________________________________________________________________ Bill Catambay Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, EIS Webmaster <http://www.catambay.com/pascal-central> /> // Excalibur: Morgana's Revenge is released! (//////[O]>=========================================- \\ <http://www.catambay.com/morgana> \> ____________________________________________________________________
Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 13:54:29 -0700 From: (Kurt Kohler) <kohler at ao dot com> Subject: Re: Auto-archiving not working? >Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 15:00:46 -0700 >From: Bill Catambay <admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com> >Subject: Re: Auto-archiving not working? > >At 3:47 PM -0700 on 5/20/97, Kurt Kohler wrote: > > >> I recently got AutoShare with the intention of switching a mailing list I >> run to it from the simple mailing list feature in EIMS. >> >> Everything seems to be working fine, except that I can't get the >> archiving to work. I tried selecting a path to my web directory (which is >> mounted with AppleShare (actually netatalk)) first in the global list >> configuration and later in the one specific to my list. I've never seen >> anything show up in the configured folder. Thinking there might be a >> problem with remote disks, I tried pointing at a local folder but that >> didn't work either. >> >> Does anyone have any idea what I might be doing wrong? If I understand >> the docs correctly, all that's needed is to define a folder to save the >> created html pages in. Is there something else? > >I'm not sure what your web directory has to do with archiving your list. >Maybe I misunderstand what you're asking, but I'll go ahead and throw in my >2 cents anyway. > >For your list, among other folders, you need an archive folder (mine is >called "Archives") in your "Auto" folder, and your list admin should show >that as your archive folder. > >A folder is then created in that archive folder given the same name as my >list, and within that folder are 4 files: > >current.html - archived posts >current.toc - summary of archived posts >digest.html - digest being created >digest.toc - summary of digest being created > >I'm by no means an expert on all this stuff, but I do have this working >fine for my list. I don't think we're talking about the same thing. I'm referring to the feature called "automated web archives" in the docs. Unless I'm totally misunderstanding what they say, a set of html pages (including an index.html page) should be created in the specified directory (Web Path). I see nothing of the kind in the selected directory. In fact no files are created there at all. Oh and BTW, I still get the dialog to locate AutoShare.68K every time I run the Admin tool. I've seen the discussion of this in the archives, but I've never seen a solution. At least not one that works for me. I'm running 7.6.1 on a 7100/66AV. Kurt Kohler Alpha Omega Computer Systems, Inc. Corvallis, OR Email: <mailto:kohler at ao dot com> Home page: <http://www.ao.com/~kohler/>
Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 16:52:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Eric Fisher <fisher at knarf dot com> Subject: Question about To: I sure this question has been brought up before, but I just got started with this. Does anyone know of a way to change the "To:" field on listserv messages? We want to create a list that nobody knows the name of the list. (Political reasons!) If anyone knows, please post here, or to fisher at knarf dot com. Thanks. Eric Fisher
Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 10:41:23 +0100 From: james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (James Berriman) Subject: Re: Question about To: At 00:52 23/5/97, Eric Fisher wrote: >I sure this question has been brought up before, but I just got started >with this. Does anyone know of a way to change the "To:" field on >listserv messages? Can you expand a little? What exactly are you trying to achieve here? Changing the To: address wouldn't hide the list name of an AutoShare list, since the list name is also in the X-List headers. ( :-]) James
Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 20:12:59 -0400 From: Robert Gray <rgray at ccs.carleton dot ca> Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 23 May 1997 Kurt wrote: > Oh and BTW, I still get the dialog to every time I >run the Admin tool. I've seen the discussion of this in the archives, but >I've never seen a solution. At least not one that works for me. I'm running >7.6.1 on a 7100/66AV. I never see the 'locate AutoShare.68K'. My solution is simple - I use the Complete Admin form and keep it in the same directory as the Autoshare app. For the record, v1.3 was a completely unevenful upgrade and has run nonstop (LCiii, sys 7.6.1) since the release date without a hiccup. TTFN eh?! Robert Gray * http://www.carleton.ca/~rgray * mailto:rgray at ccs.carleton dot ca Dept of Psychology * Carleton University * OTTAWA "...not all those who wander are lost" (J.R.R. Tolkien)
From: "Alan S. Dobkin" <adobkin at emory dot edu> Subject: Lists Within Lists Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 16:32:03 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Is it possible to have a list within a list with AutoShare? For instance, List 1 contains members A, B, and C. List 2 contains List 1 plus member D. Incidentally, I've tried this, and it seems to only send the message to member D, but not to A, B, or C. So, I'm wondering if I did something wrong or if it's simply not possible. Thanks, Alan /-------------------------------+---------------------+-----------------\ | Alan S. Dobkin, Team Leader | 1784 N. Decatur Rd. | E-Mail Address: | | Networked Workstation Support | Suite 300 (3rd Fl.) | ADobkin | | ITD Network Systems, Emory U. | Atlanta, GA 30322 | @Emory.Edu | | http://ADobkin.ITD.Emory.Edu/ | (404) 727-2766 | FAX #: 727-0817 | \-------------------------------+---------------------+-----------------/
Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 17:12:54 -0700 From: (Kurt Kohler) <kohler at ao dot com> Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 23 May 1997 >Kurt wrote: >> Oh and BTW, I still get the dialog to every time I >>run the Admin tool. I've seen the discussion of this in the archives, but >>I've never seen a solution. At least not one that works for me. I'm running >>7.6.1 on a 7100/66AV. > >I never see the 'locate AutoShare.68K'. My solution is simple - I use the >Complete Admin form and keep it in the same directory as the Autoshare app. >For the record, v1.3 was a completely unevenful upgrade and has run nonstop >(LCiii, sys 7.6.1) since the release date without a hiccup. > Ah! That worked. I put Autoshare.ppc and the AutoShare.68k resource file in the same folder as the AutoShare Admin app. So far it hasn't asked me where Autoshare.68k is. Thanks! I still have the problem with the automatic web archive generation however. Any answers? Kurt Kohler Alpha Omega Computer Systems, Inc. Corvallis, OR Email: <mailto:kohler at ao dot com> Home page: <http://www.ao.com/~kohler/>
Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 23:06:50 +0100 From: james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (James Berriman) Subject: Re: web archives At 01:12 24/05/97, Kurt Kohler wrote: > I still have the problem with the automatic web archive generation however. > > Any answers? Are your email archives working properly? It would be a good idea to generate an analysis file and take a look at that. It often shows up the cause of the problem. ( :-]) James
Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 23:07:05 +0100 From: james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (James Berriman) Subject: Re: Lists Within Lists At 21:32 23/05/97, Alan S. Dobkin wrote: >Is it possible to have a list within a list with AutoShare? For instance, >List 1 contains members A, B, and C. List 2 contains List 1 plus member D. > >Incidentally, I've tried this, and it seems to only send the message to >member D, but not to A, B, or C. So, I'm wondering if I did something >wrong or if it's simply not possible. The problem with subscribing a list to another list is that any message from the first list contains a precedence: bulk header, which causes AutoShare to filter the message out before it gets to the second list. This is done to prevent mail loops, and to prevent AutoShare vacation notices going out to mailing lists. I've heard of one person hacking the precedence header strings to achieve this very thing, but I do not recommend it! Try this: list account points to ==== ======= ========= foo foo filed mail foo.m foo.m file (in LS folder) foo.d foo.d file (in LS folder) bar bar filed mail bar.m foobar.m account bar.d foobar.d account foobar.m mailing list containing foo.m and bar-m account names foobar.d mailing list containing foo.d and bar-d account names bar-m bar.m file (in LS folder) bar-d bar.d file (in LS folder) A message to list 'foo' goes only to that list, and a message to list 'bar' goes to both. I hope... This may or may not be quite what you had in mind! ( :-]) James
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 08:21:37 -0700 From: "Steve van Mossel (604-953-3431)" <stevev at weq.gov.bc dot ca> Subject: X-List RFC fields I am still looking to resolve several AutoShare questions. I would like to manipulate the X-whatever: fields in the email header. In particular, I would like to remove the line: X-To-Unsubscribe: autoshare at my dot server, subject: unsub my_list Is there a good source of documentation for this type of thing? The AutoShare docs are skimpy on this matter. And I am also interested to know the trick. How does the line: <color><param>FFFF,0000,0000</param>Reply-To: AutoShare-Talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk </color>come out in red (Is it a Eudora setting of mine? ... I can't see this preference anywhere!) Cheers, steve --------------------------------------------------------- Steve van Mossel Network Analyst Ministry of Women's Equality (250) 953-3431 756 Fort Street, Victoria BC V8V 1X4 <<mailto:stevev at weq.gov.bc dot ca> <<http://www.weq.gov.bc.ca/> ---------------------------------------------------------
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 18:05:57 +0100 From: james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (James Berriman) Subject: Re: X-List RFC fields At 16:21 26/05/97, Steve van Mossel (604-953-3431) wrote: >In particular, I would like to remove the line: > X-To-Unsubscribe: autoshare at my dot server, subject: unsub my_list >Is there a good source of documentation for this type of thing? The >AutoShare docs are skimpy on this matter. There is currently no way to remove the X-headers, they are created automatically by AutoShare. Mikael has indicated that he might allow the option to turn some of these headers off, but that's for some future version. Personally, I'd like the option to define a set of unique headers for each list (I find the defaults are not always appropriate). >And I am also interested to know the trick. How does the line: > Reply-To: AutoShare-Talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk >come out in red (Is it a Eudora setting of mine? ... I can't see this >preference anywhere!) It is indeed a feature of Eudora 3. I don't know how to turn it off, since I'm still happily using Eudora Pro version 2.14 ;-) ( :-]) James
Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 09:38:05 -0700 From: Bill Catambay <admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com> Subject: Monthly help files... I noticed that a new feature now allows a help file to be sent to all list recipients by naming the help file month.<list-name> and placing in the DOCS folder. Does this happen at the end of the month? Can that be changed? Is there any way for a list recipient to request it? Is there any way the admin person can force it out? Thanks, Bill _____________________________________________________________________ Bill Catambay Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, EIS Webmaster <http://www.catambay.com/pascal-central> /> // Excalibur: Morgana's Revenge is released! (//////[O]>=========================================- \\ <http://www.catambay.com/morgana> \> ____________________________________________________________________
Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 12:48:22 -0400 From: wsuarez at digprod dot com (Bill Suarez) Subject: Re: Monthly help files... Bill, If memory serves...............Mikael indicated the the file would go out at the beginning on the month, to both mail and digest subscribers. I suppose that you could make the file available to the "get" command easily enough if you wanted to. Regards, Bill Suarez ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Monthly help files... Author: autoshare-talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk at Internet Date: 5/27/97 9:38 AM I noticed that a new feature now allows a help file to be sent to all list recipients by naming the help file month.<list-name> and placing in the DOCS folder. Does this happen at the end of the month? Can that be changed? Is there any way for a list recipient to request it? Is there any way the admin person can force it out? Thanks, Bill _____________________________________________________________________ Bill Catambay Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, EIS Webmaster <http://www.catambay.com/pascal-central> /> // Excalibur: Morgana's Revenge is released! (//////[O]>=========================================- \\ <http://www.catambay.com/morgana> \> ____________________________________________________________________ ** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at: ** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/AutoShare-Talk/>
Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 10:10:35 -0800 From: Rick Degelsmith <rdegel at 1.mmink dot com> Subject: auto digest after subscribe--feature? Hello all, My autoshare seems to send out a digest to everyone who subscribes immediately after they subscribe. I have not enabled the "digest" feature. The list involved is an announcement list. Can I turn off this auto digest feature? Do I need to throw away my digest files? anybody got an idea? thanks, Rick *********************************************** RICK DEGELSMITH, M.A. MULTIMEDIA INK DESIGNS Media Director, Internet Ad Emporium Voice (619)679-8317 14544 High Pine Street, Poway CA 92064 FAX (619)679-1536 http://mmink.com/ EMAIL: rdegel at mmink dot com ***********************************************
Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 13:17:40 -0400 From: wsuarez at digprod dot com (Bill Suarez) Subject: Re: auto digest after subscribe--feature? Rick, When a user subscribes, in mail mode vs. digest mode, a partial digest with that days postings to date, will be sent out to the new user. If there have not been any postings to that list, for that day, then no partial digest message will go out. I don't recall a way to turn it off. Bill Suarez _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: auto digest after subscribe--feature? From: AutoShare-Talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk at Internet Date: 5/27/97 10:10 AM Hello all, My autoshare seems to send out a digest to everyone who subscribes immediately after they subscribe. I have not enabled the "digest" feature. The list involved is an announcement list. Can I turn off this auto digest feature? Do I need to throw away my digest files? anybody got an idea? thanks, Rick *********************************************** RICK DEGELSMITH, M.A. MULTIMEDIA INK DESIGNS Media Director, Internet Ad Emporium Voice (619)679-8317 14544 High Pine Street, Poway CA 92064 FAX (619)679-1536 http://mmink.com/ EMAIL: rdegel at mmink dot com *********************************************** ** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at: ** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/AutoShare-Talk/>
Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 14:44:17 -0700 From: Bill Catambay <admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com> Subject: Re: Monthly help files... At 12:48 PM -0400 on 5/27/97, Bill Suarez wrote: > Bill, > > If memory serves...............Mikael indicated the the file would go > out at the beginning on the month, to both mail and digest > subscribers. > But can that be changed, to, say, the 15th of the month? > I suppose that you could make the file available to the "get" command > easily enough if you wanted to. > The "easily enough" part is where I get lost. How do you do that? Thanks, Bill _____________________________________________________________________ Bill Catambay Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, EIS Webmaster <http://www.catambay.com/pascal-central> /> // Excalibur: Morgana's Revenge is released! (//////[O]>=========================================- \\ <http://www.catambay.com/morgana> \> ____________________________________________________________________
Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 17:04:30 -0700 From: (Kurt Kohler) <kohler at ao dot com> Subject: Re: web archives Sorry to be slow in responding. I was out of the office until today. >At 01:12 24/05/97, Kurt Kohler wrote: > >> I still have the problem with the automatic web archive generation however. >> >> Any answers? > >Are your email archives working properly? It looks like it. The folder ::Auto:Archives:Futaba-L: contains the files Current.html, Current.toc, Digest.html, and Digest.toc which are updated when I send something to the list. >It would be a good idea to generate an analysis file and take a look at >that. It often shows up the cause of the problem. > From the analysis file: General list configuration (1000): listmaster at buffy.ao dot com (Kurt Kohler) subscription, reply-to list, show names address: NOCONCEAL, NODIGEST, MAIL, NOACK, POST rollover is 0, max lines is 0, quote disabled show list web path: Antares Home:public_html:Archives: List-specific configuration: Futaba-L (1001): kohler at buffy.ao dot com (Kurt Kohler) subscription, reply-to list, show names address: <default> NOCONCEAL, NODIGEST, MAIL, ACK, POST rollover is 0, max lines is 0, quote disabled X-List-Help: <default> no alternate name, show list web path: <default> mail-back string: <default> subject prefix: <default> remote password: <default> So the web path is set. As I understand it, a folder called "Futaba-L" should be created inside the "Archives" folder. If I create that folder it remains empty. If I delete it, it doesn't get recreated. Since the volume "Antares Home" is on a unix box (Solaris running netatalk), I thought there might be a problem with case sensitivity, but I haven't been able to get various combinations to work. I can't guarantee that I've tried all possible combinations. Is there something else I should look for in the Analysis file? I can mail the whole file to anyone who wants to see it. I didn't think posting it to the list would be appreciated! Kurt Kohler Alpha Omega Computer Systems, Inc. Corvallis, OR Email: <mailto:kohler at ao dot com> Home page: <http://www.ao.com/~kohler/>
Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 21:28:57 -0700 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: Monthly help files... At 14:44 -0700 5/27/97, Bill Catambay wrote: >At 12:48 PM -0400 on 5/27/97, Bill Suarez wrote: >> If memory serves...............Mikael indicated the the file would >> go out at the beginning on the month, to both mail and digest >> subscribers. >But can that be changed, to, say, the 15th of the month? No, not currently. But you can copy and paste the contents of the file into a mail and send to your lists at this time. >The "easily enough" part is where I get lost. How do you do that? Anyone can send a mail to your list server address and specify the file name (Month.<list>) on a line by itself in the body. Any no-space file name in the docs/autoshare folder is considered a command, e.g. Help.
Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 21:34:33 -0700 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: web archives At 17:04 -0700 5/27/97, Kurt Kohler wrote: >The folder ::Auto:Archives:Futaba-L: contains the files >Current.html, Current.toc, Digest.html, and Digest.toc which are updated >when I send something to the list. Are your standard archives set to Text or HTML? Must be HTML. >General list configuration (1000): > web path: Antares Home:public_html:Archives: > >List-specific configuration: >Futaba-L (1001): > web path: <default> Looks fine to me. > Since the volume "Antares Home" is on a unix box (Solaris running >netatalk), I thought there might be a problem with case sensitivity, but I >haven't been able to get various combinations to work. I can't guarantee >that I've tried all possible combinations. What happens if you set the web path to a folder on the AutoShare disk?
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 12:57:22 +0100 From: Bill Bedford <billbpm at mousa.demon.co dot uk> Subject: Hard Bounces Is there a way of turning off only the hard bounce? I have discovered that three members of one of my lists with the same ISP were hard bounced on the same day, since two of them have since told me that there is nothing wrong with their connection I suspect a problem at the ISP to be the cause.
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 16:28:59 -0700 From: (Kurt Kohler) <kohler at ao dot com> Subject: Re: web archives >At 17:04 -0700 5/27/97, Kurt Kohler wrote: > >>The folder ::Auto:Archives:Futaba-L: contains the files >>Current.html, Current.toc, Digest.html, and Digest.toc which are updated >>when I send something to the list. > >Are your standard archives set to Text or HTML? Must be HTML. That was it! I suppose I should have seen the connection but I didn't. Wouldn't it be reasonable to force HTML if Web Path is non-blank? Thanks for your help! Kurt Kohler Alpha Omega Computer Systems, Inc. Corvallis, OR Email: <mailto:kohler at ao dot com> Home page: <http://www.ao.com/~kohler/>
Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 01:35:16 +0100 From: james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (James Berriman) Subject: Re: Hard Bounces At 12:57 28/05/97, Bill Bedford wrote: >Is there a way of turning off only the hard bounce? > >I have discovered that three members of one of my lists with the same ISP >were hard bounced on the same day, since two of them have since told me >that there is nothing wrong with their connection I suspect a problem at >the ISP to be the cause. For a hard bounce to occur, you'd have to get a 550 error (user unknown). So yes, I expect their ISP had a problem. It occurs to me to wonder if AutoShare filters can be applied to the bounce account (care to try it Bill?). Then it would just be a question of filtering bounces from that particular domain. Provided you have 'keep copies' checked for the bounce account, it would still be possible to keep an eye on things manually. ( :-]) James
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 20:29:49 -0700 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: Hard Bounces At 12:57 +0100 5/28/97, Bill Bedford wrote: >Is there a way of turning off only the hard bounce? No, not currently. I'll keep it in mind though. From the "Bounces and unsubscriptions" section in the 1.3 Addendum: "the 550 code (user unknown) is the only one so far to trigger a hard bounce status". The 550 code is generally considered so severe though that instant action may be taken.
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 20:26:10 -0700 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: web archives At 16:28 -0700 5/28/97, Kurt Kohler wrote: >Wouldn't it be reasonable to force HTML if Web Path is non-blank? You do indeed have a valid point here. I'll give it some thought.
Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 16:15:55 +0100 From: james at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (James Berriman) Subject: Re: web archives At 04:26 29/5/97, Mikael Hansen wrote: >At 16:28 -0700 5/28/97, Kurt Kohler wrote: > >>Wouldn't it be reasonable to force HTML if Web Path is non-blank? > >You do indeed have a valid point here. I'll give it some thought. Then we'd get people asking "Why do my archives come out as HTML when I've set them to text?" ;-) Perhaps the tidiest solution would be to allow creation of both text and HTML archives in this particular case. You could consider renaming the plain text archives, too. Then it would be possible to GET a current.html or a current.txt. ( :-]) James
Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 09:04:14 -0700 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: web archives At 16:15 +0100 5/29/97, James Berriman wrote: >Perhaps the tidiest solution would be to allow creation of both text and >HTML archives in this particular case. You could consider renaming the >plain text archives, too. Then it would be possible to GET a current.html >or a current.txt. Agreed. This has been on my to-do list for a good while and still is!
From: Melissa Capen <melissa at otlmail.stanford dot edu> Subject: Help! I forgot to check keep copies... Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 08:13:24 -0700 I have been using the auto reply feature for 2 months now and it has been flawless! But, this time I goofed. One user just returned from vacation and has no mail... I went to the server, and checked her settings, and I had forgotten to check on the KEEP COPIES... it was set up as Save Files as.... in the Filed mail folder...... How could she get her mail for the last 2 weeks??? Is it in the filed mail folder? How does one access it? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Melissa Capen Office of Technology Licensing Stanford University melissa at otlmail.stanford dot edu http://www-leland.stanford.edu/group/OTL/ 415-473-3203
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 09:12:36 -0700 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: Help! I forgot to check keep copies... At 08:13 -0700 6/2/97, Melissa Capen wrote: >I have been using the auto reply feature for 2 months now and it has been >flawless! Thanks :-) >But, this time I goofed. One user just returned from vacation and has no >mail... I went to the server, and checked her settings, and I had forgotten >to check on the KEEP COPIES... it was set up as Save Files as.... in the >Filed mail folder...... > >How could she get her mail for the last 2 weeks??? > >Is it in the filed mail folder? How does one access it? I'm sorry. It would seem that the mail is gone. Any mail message arriving in the Filed Mail folder is deleted as soon as it has been processed. You may be able to track down some sender information in the log though and then ask the senders to re-send the mails. It would be so cool if EIMS was scriptable, as AutoShare would be able to directly configure EIMS accounts and thereby be making the AutoShare configuration both easier and safer. All of you, please send suggestions to <mailto:eims-beta at eudora dot com> and ask for scriptability, at least for accounts. Thanks!
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 12:48:26 -0400 From: Michael Reid <michael_reid at wow dot net> Subject: Re: EIMS 1.2 Beta #1 Available Hi, >Qualcomm has just released a beta version of the Eudora Internet Mail >Server (EIMS) version 1.2. You can download the server and the README >which contains information on new features, bug fixes, and licensing at ><http://www.eudora.com/betas>, or at ><ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/mac/servers/eudora_ims/beta1.2> > >Please send comments, suggestions, bug reports, etc to <eims-beta at eudora dot com>. > >Note: EIMS was formerly AIMS, which was formerly MailShare. > >Qualcomm, Inc. For those of you that have not heard, the above info. is for you... Now, for the new stuff... Has anyone tried the Ph server??? I don't know much about it, but it seems like a nice way to access your EIMS index of users. Very snappy and has the ability to use '*' notation (like partials in FileMaker searches)... However! This poses a security risk for those people that use the secret '.m' and '.d' (work list accounts) options as it will list all accounts in the server if you fiddle with it enough... What can be done? Can someone please enlighten me on what a 'Ph' server *really* is. Thanks Gang... Michael Reid Internal Systems Admin. WOW.Net Ltd. <http://www.wow.net/>
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 14:53:47 -0400 From: Michael Reid <michael_reid at wow dot net> Subject: Re: EIMS 1.2 Beta 'Ph' Server Hi, >Now, for the new stuff... > >Has anyone tried the Ph server??? >I don't know much about it, but it seems like a nice way to access your >EIMS index of users. >Very snappy and has the ability to use '*' notation (like partials in >FileMaker searches)... > >However! This poses a security risk for those people that use the secret >'.m' and '.d' (work list accounts) options as it will list all accounts in >the server if you fiddle with it enough... > >What can be done? >Can someone please enlighten me on what a 'Ph' server *really* is. > >Thanks Gang... OK folks, I think I jumped the gun a bit, after some more fiddling, it would seem that the server only sends back queries regarding the 'name' field. So I went into the server and removed the 'name's from the accounts I didn't wish to show and all it fine now... But... >Can someone please enlighten me on what a 'Ph' server *really* is. Thanks again... Michael Reid Internal Systems Admin. WOW.Net Ltd. <http://www.wow.net/>
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 12:24:24 -0700 From: Bill Catambay <admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com> Subject: Weird occurrence with AutoShare 1.3 Without doing anything to request this, an AutoShare log report was automatically generated over the weekend and sent to the admin account. It was split into 6 notes of 180K each, unreadable text. Here's the beginning of part 1 (is this a bug?)(why did this happen?): Mime-Version: 1.0 To: admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com Precedence: bulk =46rom: postmaster at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com (GM4 Postmaster) Subject: AutoShare Report Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 07:46:12 -0700 ===== AutoShare Log Report, Sat, 31 May 1997 07:46:12 ===== = > X-Li afb4949c.19=02Ø¥î¶=07ï=01ìre: AutoShare 1.3 by Mikael Hansen X-To-Unsubscribe: autoshare at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com, body: unsub gm4 To: gm4 at clavin.lmsc.loc!=01=1Egm4.m at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot comlockheed dot com=01=01MM= =46=01"åh=1C¶=1CF=01ST R =12STR#=1E % Pý=0C;=0E#ú>=0EÄHÊ;=0EÄ=08Á0;= °RCm=ï÷=03ê<Òå=03å=ês=11=¸÷ <=10R=06=01(e=10@ð=03=01àd=10¿=18Ê*z<=1C=17NlÛ= êA=11Än=13=01PB=11Ä%îÛ »b=11-=16=01Dj9¦â3><=03ë=04P'Hyé=04Ý Ò«WO^'=014k=12¿=1Bp at =12Ä1&=01hA=12¬%=01ê^=12Ĭ&a3 dot = <3=01Ñ8*=116Cã ¾M¢#ÍÿkÙmø÷Ë\:çaoÿ?çcþÿ?çcþ= ÿ?çcþÿ?çcþÿ?çcþÿ':GQ¡÷ÿ?ç= cþÿ?çcþÿ?ç= ¶Câ>ç=iÿ7è}cÿ7è}cÿ7è}co¤7è}c= ÿ7è}cÿ7è}cÿ7è}cÿ7è}cÿ7è}c= ÿ7è}cÿ 7è}cÿ7è}cÿ7è}cÿ7è}cÿ7è}cÿ7= è}cÿ7è}cÿ7è}cÿ7è}cÿ7è}cÿ7= è}cÿ7è }cÿ7è}cÿ7è} cÿ7è}cÿ7è}cÿ7è}cèÈÃçcþÿ?= çcþÿ?çcþÿ?çcþÿ?çcþÿ?çc= þÿ?çcþÿ?ç=¶CÀ =18J$¦-÷hCk=01=0B¶é18"[ØÜî©=04j"Q-Ä\X=01Ap=0F=1Dm=08= @I`úA#ën£®ô=04 ¡ÅÉ(DrRUÝ Å=04ê"£=03'§=05gÅH4'xJ»å0*D· e=03º^´ É"å=03=04@êL=036@/`=03¸=027Ä=06pðÆF=1CHÝ <í@8=0Fà=03=02@> P"Z¥åCì=01,Ø=0B=01=7F=13Ùï6Jb-5h]JݰUÕ@=03á=16q^=107= ãVV-¥:=13&=08OK¶ y=041@=0E-=02df¬Å=1BE-=0B=1FÇ=0E=10¡l=06°ÅgÝîPÖ= Ñ$½8E7cþò=05Ñö¡5º=01=06AºË=04ú=08 @=16@V=18=04=03¿Ww&T&ÒL*#ê8ÃÑAP=18V¿ôÝf=04|=06Ä=01¿= =04» dÄú`=10LJAýôúü ¿=14"h"ùâ=19É2º=01=06¡=02P§$ù=1B`=10Pó>à=10=04l= =13 ó'h=01a=1C=105¸=0B´Ç=18`$=14<»Ã=01 =04P=1FkÄÝP8<=12Ä= 'q ©=0Bæ Å]0s=06=01=02g¨ =1B`=10p ø»=1Dh=13nLðC=14T@(S#=18=04=15ÄðF&ýmæA`=01=1C=17= ÿÚºÒ?=06¿=14ê=07å)'áAÄ=01=18=02ê«$=18=04!¿=02=10= =04ÿ=01=11Ä]¥=08=13º=04pÓ£=08 ¤=07öý.=0C=0C´=08=1A¿=06à=01N=âçÑ=0Cc@=13p&| ÒMp=1BAlDÄâó=1D»:"=02-=04<(èB§0î=02£L=18P=07=0C à¬Ô¢ûÿ=01u¦Ý=1FOí?à¿=04§=01g=1A-"Ð= Á=12rÇ¢Úø=01k¿=7F¥ï5\PBÓÆ=05=01Ϧ¬Å=04= <:ZÅ=10Ä|Q=1B=04îH=15¿m×3=1B=04tt =0BÄ=13P"%=05¡Ò_=10$^øC¿=028=01%RÚ_=10=1C=05AÚÔ= ;=01%RÚ_=10=1C=05AÚ_=1F@=18å=13P"%=05¡Ò_=10$^ø-=01xd= =0C=01ç=13=1B=04t=19ý s=01+=0EÄÔe^¿E=04ê^=03Ã<@=05Ïi =03=1C_ùçAP= Ú=04=05¡}«q=05ú¾"f2Ã|"¬7=04ÓXP=12=05mO -=10=05O`å=05ZPÚ=04=19=1C-=0B=12=18@=02¿|3W3-ç-=0EÅ=04Ñ= @53=11 "å{ =085L'"ëA=03¿=10_´B=03'3P[=03ÄåS"}7Z-=0CHº+ÜÞ8Ò= ë=1AzÌ=0C Õ=10=03 =10=17z"æ9Õþ =14èt «÷ý=0C=1Að¿=13Ý7R< =01ý=10]O=16=1Fþ½bÙ MC=10=02Ò 0F-\=04@Exd=04@§Fþú=02ÒÕrF=18c=04Ä=16D@=04@=13F\D=04¿@D = \[||:=04h «7=1EêÈMþht=04@BS½c=05=19TåÒ'O=01ÄÓLu=08NðS½b=05=0E-V= ËbÂ1Ç=03¡=158MÅ=13"=14sç=01ê=18o|=1C=7F=10Ò=19=0E= üdú?=06Ä%fË7=06ÄW '=18"è=01p'-Ò=19=1Dþ'=18£ô=01=06d8=03í=01@=01·Ò=19= =1EÔä°=05=13ë=01 Õ=187ò=01p d8 ç=01@¸ÒfÅA@hô=05=06êôd=16½cÄ<ãs=10 Jf=01=03vîD=07Jp»;=07¿u(8=07@:T=01f¡Ùs3,é!è»W]= _____________________________________________________________________ Bill Catambay Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, EIS Webmaster <http://www.catambay.com/pascal-central> /> // Excalibur: Morgana's Revenge is released! (//////[O]>===================== =====================- \\ <http://www.catambay.com/morgana> \> ____________________________________________________________________
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 12:38:16 -0700 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Ph server in EIMS At 12:48 -0400 6/2/97, Michael Reid wrote: >Can someone please enlighten me on what a 'Ph' server *really* is. "Ph" is also known as the "UIUC CSO Nameserver"; it is a directory information system. Steve Dorner worked on it way back in his days of being an employee for the University of Illinois at Champagne/Urbana in Illinois. I remember asking around for a Mac Ph server a couple of years ago, and I'm glad it's in the Eudora IMS now! From John Norstad's NewsWatcher manual: "The URL standard does not include "ph" URLs, but they seemed useful, so Farhad Anklesaria (the author of TurboGopher), Steve Dorner (the author of Eudora) and your humble author invented them.". So <ph://ns.flunku.edu/john%20doe> is fine.
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 12:45:32 -0700 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: Weird occurrence with AutoShare 1.3 At 12:24 -0700 6/2/97, Bill Catambay wrote: >Without doing anything to request this, an AutoShare log report was >automatically generated over the weekend and sent to the admin account. >It was split into 6 notes of 180K each, unreadable text. That is weird! The question is whether the log was okay when it left the AutoShare processing or it was garbled afterwards when mailed across the net, perhaps some funny 8-bit stuff. The size of the log seems odd at well.
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 12:54:52 -0700 From: Bill Catambay <admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com> Subject: Re: Weird occurrence with AutoShare 1.3 At 12:45 PM -0700 on 6/2/97, Mikael Hansen wrote: > At 12:24 -0700 6/2/97, Bill Catambay wrote: > > >Without doing anything to request this, an AutoShare log report was > >automatically generated over the weekend and sent to the admin account. > >It was split into 6 notes of 180K each, unreadable text. > > That is weird! The question is whether the log was okay when it left the > AutoShare processing or it was garbled afterwards when mailed across the > net, perhaps some funny 8-bit stuff. The size of the log seems odd at well. > Is that a rhetorical question, or is there some way for me to find out? _____________________________________________________________________ Bill Catambay Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, EIS Webmaster <http://www.catambay.com/pascal-central> /> // Excalibur: Morgana's Revenge is released! (//////[O]>=========================================- \\ <http://www.catambay.com/morgana> \> ____________________________________________________________________
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 13:14:25 -0700 From: Bill Catambay <admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com> Subject: Need help understanding addendum info... Okay, I've been wanting this, and now I have it, but I don't know how to implement it. The addendum reads: > Subscriber addresses (*) > > An Internet mail message (see RFC 822) contains two parts: > 1. the visible contents, which includes a header of RFC fields as > well as an optional body and 2. the (usually) hidden envelope, > which includes delivery information. Two of the RFC field > headers may be From and To, which often (but certainly not always) > are identical to the envelope's sender and recipient > respectively. EIMS stores the contents and the envelope in the > message file's data fork and resource fork respectively. > > AutoShare has historically used the envelope sender, not the > RFC From field, to determine the address of a list subscriber, as the > envelope sender is generally considered to be the real address, > although not visible when viewing the mail message. More often > than not, the two are identical though. > > If you would like new subscriber addresses to be extracted from > the RFC From field, you may use the RFC From property in > the AppleScript Options (Misc) to enable this. This means that the > list files will contain the RFC From addresses for new > subscribers, which will be used whenever a list server request or > a list contribution takes a place. I would like the subscriber address to be extracted from the RFC From field, but I have no idea what is meant by using the "RFC From property in the AppleScript Options (Misc)". If someone would walk me through this process, I would be very grateful (I was hoping there'd be a simple switch to flip in the admin program, but I see no such beast). Thanks, Bill _____________________________________________________________________ Bill Catambay Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, EIS Webmaster <http://www.catambay.com/pascal-central> /> // Excalibur: Morgana's Revenge is released! (//////[O]>=========================================- \\ <http://www.catambay.com/morgana> \> ____________________________________________________________________
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 19:32:00 +0100 From: Bill Bedford <billbpm at mousa.demon.co dot uk> Subject: Re: Help! I forgot to check keep copies... At 5:12 pm +0100 02/06/97, Mikael Hansen wrote: ~ ~It would be so cool if EIMS was scriptable, as AutoShare would be able to ~directly configure EIMS accounts and thereby be making the AutoShare ~configuration both easier and safer. All of you, please send suggestions to ~<mailto:eims-beta at eudora dot com> and ask for scriptability, at least for ~accounts. Thanks! It has a dictionary, though there is only 'open' and 'quit' in it, so full scriptabilty may not be far away.
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 17:56:45 -0700 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: Need help understanding addendum info... At 13:14 -0700 6/2/97, Bill Catambay wrote: >I would like the subscriber address to be extracted from the RFC From >field, but I have no idea what is meant by using the "RFC From property in >the AppleScript Options (Misc)". If someone would walk me through this >process, I would be very grateful (I was hoping there'd be a simple switch >to flip in the admin program, but I see no such beast). The Admin: Choose More Miscellaneous from the Preferences menu and check 'RFC From (vs envelope)'. Easy, isn't it? :-) AppleScript (see the AppleEvent dictionary and the sample files): tell application "AutoShare.68k" -- or .ppc SetMisc Options {RFC From: true} end tell
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 08:47:05 -0500 From: "Don W. Strickland" <Don-Strickland at easy dot com> Subject: SPAM: toohot at 2handle dot me Look what just bounced off of my list server. What should I do ... ignore it or report it to someone? How do I add a filter to block <sam at pwrnet dot com> or all of pwrnet.com? Thanks dws. >From: Postmaster at VIOLIN.EASY dot COM >To: postmaster at violin.easy dot com >Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 08:10:46 -0500 >Subject: Undeliverable Mail > >The following message could not be sent to 'toohot at 2handle dot me' because the host '2handle.me' does not exist. > > ----Unsent message follows---- > >X-Sender: listserv at violin.easy dot com >To: toohot at 2handle dot me >From: get at noticed dot now >Errors-To: postmaster at violin.easy dot com >Precedence: bulk >Subject: Need Buyer for Incredible site!! >Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 08:10:36 -0500 > >Invalid listserv command: Need > >Welcome to the listserv at easy dot com > [... my help message ... ] > >Your original message is found below. > >--- >Received: from MIA.EASY.COM (207.101.132.26) by VIOLIN.EASY.COM with > ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Tue, 3 Jun 1997 08:10:26 -0500 >Received: from popalex3.linknet.net (206.103.79.233) by MIA.EASY.COM with > SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Tue, 3 Jun 1997 08:09:17 -0500 >Received: from mailhost.1stfamily.com ([38.28.33.158]) > by popalex3.linknet.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-11696) > with SMTP id AAF518; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 21:53:22 -0500 >Received: from get at noticed.now by sam@pwrnet.com (8.8.5/8.6 dot 5) with SMTP id GAA00961 for <get at noticed dot now>; Mon, 02 Jun 1997 19:53:30 - >Date: Mon, 02 Jun 97 19:53:30 EST >From: toohot at 2handle dot me >To: get at noticed dot now >Subject: Need Buyer for Incredible site!! >Message-ID: <19970380054TAA0856 at pwrnet dot com> >Reply-To: mary at afro-erotica dot com >X-PMFLAGS: 34078848.0 >X-UIDL: 2610431056a78aeb1b128fda426c9a5e >Comments: Authenticated sender is <sam at pwrnet dot com> > [.... garbage about a XXX site for sale ...]
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 08:43:30 -0700 From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com> Subject: Re: SPAM: toohot at 2handle dot me At 08:47 -0500 6/3/97, Don W. Strickland wrote: > Look what just bounced off of my list server. What should I > do ... ignore it or report it to someone? How do I add a filter > to block <sam at pwrnet dot com> or all of pwrnet.com? Generally, you would create a file in your Filters folder with the name of your list and then add lines such as "pwrnet.com", "sam@pwrnet dot com" or "From: sam@pwrnet dot com". If you dont specify a given RFC body header, all of From:, To:, Subject:, Reply-To and Sender: are applied. While filter support for auto-responses including list server requests has been around forever, filter support for lists is fairly new (I don't remember precisely when it was added).
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 09:38:57 -0700 From: Bill Catambay <admin at clavin.lmsc.lockheed dot com> Subject: Re: Need help understanding addendum info... At 5:56 PM -0700 on 6/2/97, Mikael Hansen wrote: > At 13:14 -0700 6/2/97, Bill Catambay wrote: > > >I would like the subscriber address to be extracted from the RFC From > >field, but I have no idea what is meant by using the "RFC From property in > >the AppleScript Options (Misc)". If someone would walk me through this > >process, I would be very grateful (I was hoping there'd be a simple switch > >to flip in the admin program, but I see no such beast). > > The Admin: > > Choose More Miscellaneous from the Preferences menu and check 'RFC From (vs > envelope)'. Easy, isn't it? :-) > Very easy. > AppleScript (see the AppleEvent dictionary and the sample files): > > tell application "AutoShare.68k" -- or .ppc > SetMisc Options {RFC From: true} > end tell > This works great too. One more question... is there any way to get a list to reply-to the RFC From address? Example: I sent a note to Autoshare with another user in the From field. Autoshare accepted the input from that user, but when it sent out a reply, it still sent it back to the Envelope sender (i.e., me). Bill _____________________________________________________________________ Bill Catambay Software Developer, Macintosh/VAX Administrator, EIS Webmaster <http://www.catambay.com/pascal-central> /> // Excalibur: Morgana's Revenge is released! (//////[O]>=========================================- \\ <http://www.catambay.com/morgana> \> ____________________________________________________________________