Date: 24 Sep 1997 11:06:43 -0600
From: "Chuck Boody" <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 24
I don't mean to clutter up the list, but amen to the comment below. It is
also a relief to find someone who admits to an error. This is doubtless why
the program is so good...it is being produced by a human being.....
Chuck Boody
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Date: 9/23/97 7:14 PM
To: Chuck Boody
>When releasing version 1.4, I forgot to update the Admin scripts for the
>New List and New Subscriber buttons to reflect related changes :-(
It is always a relief when we discover that the cause of a problem is an
oversight and that the author is sufficiently on top of things to also
have a solution. Thank you for a great product.
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 10:58:51 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 23/24
Thanks for the comments :-)
There will be a 1.4.2 (mostly likely next week), which cleans up the New
List and New Subscriber scripts.
1.4.2 will also take care of a bug with sending bounce related mails to the
listmaster. While hard bounce notices are sent to the list-specific
listmaster (which works as intended), unresolved bounces are sent to the
main listmaster, even when a valid list can be detected (which does not
work as intended, as the list-specific listmaster should be notified).
If you have been playing around with SIMS (Stalker Internet Mail Server),
please drop me a note as the latest SIMS version is likely to be compatible
with AutoShare. I am ironing out the rough edges in the instructions these
days and would to like to know if all has been covered. Thanks.
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 15:44:11 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: Question about Archives... [revisited]
At 9:03 PM +0100 on 8/26/97, James Berriman wrote:
> At 4:21 pm 26/8/97, Camelot Postmaster wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >I currently have my archive files setup for HTML, but I have not been able
> >to figure out how to have the table of contents inserted automatically into
> >the .html file. Currently, two files are created: one with the actual
> >posts, and the other with the table of contents (with hyperlinks and all).
> >I don't understand why they are separate in the first place. What I've
> >been doing is manually splicing them together. There has to be an easier
> >more automated way, yes?
> >
> >Bill
>
> Those are your email archives, which are automatically 'spliced' together
> (it's a bit more complicated than that) when you send a 'get' command to
> AutoShare. It sounds like you have made your email archive folder
> accessible via the web.
>
> Web and email archives are actually stored separately. Your Web archives
> should appear fully formed in the relevant directory (as specified in your
> list settings).
>
I've got the fully formed web archived shared now instead of the email
archives. However, I'm at a loss as to the URL to use to see them. The
folder they are in is in Camelot:Auto:Web Entry, and the address of the
server is http://camelot.lmms.lmco.com. What is the URL to get to the
archive, and/or what do I need to do to make this work? I have the folder
shared, and I have NetPresenz running with web access turned on.
Thanks in advance,
Bill
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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 16:12:09 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Question about Archives... [revisited]
At 15:44 -0700 26/9/1997, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>I've got the fully formed web archived shared now instead of the email
>archives. However, I'm at a loss as to the URL to use to see them. The
>folder they are in is in Camelot:Auto:Web Entry, and the address of the
>server is http://camelot.lmms.lmco.com. What is the URL to get to the
>archive, and/or what do I need to do to make this work? I have the folder
>shared, and I have NetPresenz running with web access turned on.
With respect to your web server, you create a new folder within your normal
web hierarchy. Once you have tested it, you also know the URL. See the
NetPresenz documentation for further details.
Then in AutoShare, you simply specify the absolute Mac path of the folder
in the Web Path field in the List window in the Admin.
Subject: Listmaster roles
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 97 03:35:16 -0500
From: Alexandre Enkerli <enkerli at iname dot com>
It's more or less a new item for the wish-list.
In moderated and announcement lists, a single listmaster address (even a
list-specific one) has three functions:
-Receive error messages
-Post messages
-Appear as the sender of messages
I would like to assume the first role, somebody else would like to assume
the second one and we would like to set a phony address for the third
one. It doesn't seem to be possible. Maybe there's a workaround, but
still...
Now, a better solution (probably the one we'll use anyway) would be to
set a phony listmaster address (pointing to my address) without post
privilege and send messages through the remote-admin-by-email mechanism
(i.e., password-based posting). The advantages being that it's a bit
safer (to prevent intruders from sending messages) and that it permits
the actual listmaster to send his message from any account he pleases.
The downside is that it's just a little bit more complicated.
I'm willing to trade and I guess my listmaster will think the same way.
But still, three roles for a single address seems a bit excessive.
Any comment on this?
Je persiste
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 09:37:16 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Listmaster roles
At 03:35 -0500 30/9/1997, Alexandre Enkerli wrote:
>In moderated and announcement lists, a single listmaster address (even a
>list-specific one) has three functions:
>-Receive error messages
>-Post messages
>-Appear as the sender of messages
>I would like to assume the first role, somebody else would like to assume
>the second one and we would like to set a phony address for the third
>one.
The primary difference in responsibility for a listmaster of a moderated
list versus other lists is mostly likely the added task of the actual
decision-making in moderating potential list contributions.
>Now, a better solution (probably the one we'll use anyway) would be to
>set a phony listmaster address (pointing to my address) without post
>privilege and send messages through the remote-admin-by-email mechanism
>(i.e., password-based posting). The advantages being that it's a bit
>safer (to prevent intruders from sending messages) and that it permits
>the actual listmaster to send his message from any account he pleases.
This takes care of the distinction between function two and three. These
functions are what I would call active (sending), while more passive
functions are (receiving) logs and (receiving) error messages.
Your above distribution of responsibility is interesting. I was almost
going to suggest that your listmaster account be configured in EIMS, so
that its mail is forwarded to another account, but that is probably not
what you want for moderated lists. A conflict also arises with mail-back
confirmations.
>But still, three roles for a single address seems a bit excessive.
I don't know. When you on the other hand start dividing responsibilities,
an additional overhead is created as the various parties need to keep each
other informed to a certain extent. And who's the boss when distributing
tasks within a given list?
The distinction between the main listmaster and the list-specific
listmasters is somewhat clearer, as the main listmaster is the global boss
while the list-specific listmaster is the local boss. Distribution of
responsibility is also more obvious here as individual lists may be viewed
as separate and autonomous entities.
Yet, your thoughts are quite interesting. Which listmaster tasks in
particular do you perceive as the most time-consuming?
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:51:01 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: AutoShare 1.4.2 released
Hi all
AutoShare 1.4.2 is available from
<ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/>
The 1.4.2 archive contains the applications and a few documents. The
partial archive replaces the 1.4.1 archive, but does not replace the
complete 1.4 archive.
1.4.2 offers the following improvements and bug fixes:
-fixed New List and New Subscriber buttons in Admin
-added MIME QP Always to More Miscellaneous in Admin
-added Post option in Subscriber window in Admin
-improved text in version 1.4 balloons in Admin
-/=header in auto-responses picks up the original RFC header only
-/=rfcfrom in auto-responses updates envelope recipient to RFC To
-/=forward <address> in auto-responses sends Bcc to address
-using SIMS (Stalker internet Mail Server) with AutoShare
-did file catalog move from Temp folder to Incoming Mail folder
-fixed listmaster not being list-specific for unresolved bounces
-repaired broken list contributions with enclosures
-use of filter files now ignores blank lines
-minor cosmetic log and filter refinements
--
Mikael Hansen <mailto:meh at dnai.com> <http://www.dnai dot com/~meh/autoshare/>
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 12:59:51 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: Question about Archives... [revisited]
At 4:12 PM -0700 on 9/26/97, Mikael Hansen wrote:
> At 15:44 -0700 26/9/1997, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>
> >I've got the fully formed web archived shared now instead of the email
> >archives. However, I'm at a loss as to the URL to use to see them. The
> >folder they are in is in Camelot:Auto:Web Entry, and the address of the
> >server is http://camelot.lmms.lmco.com. What is the URL to get to the
> >archive, and/or what do I need to do to make this work? I have the folder
> >shared, and I have NetPresenz running with web access turned on.
>
> With respect to your web server, you create a new folder within your normal
> web hierarchy. Once you have tested it, you also know the URL. See the
> NetPresenz documentation for further details.
>
> Then in AutoShare, you simply specify the absolute Mac path of the folder
> in the Web Path field in the List window in the Admin.
>
Okay, I got the archive web page working now. The problem was with the way
I had sharing set up on the server. I had the web folder shared, and
that's all that FTP required, but for HTTP to work, I had to change the
sharing such that the folder containing the web folder was also shared.
Here is a more specific Autoshare related question. The current listing on
the archive page is as follows:
Archive-10-Sep-1997.html
Archive-11-Aug-1997.html
Archive-12-Aug-1997.html
Archive-14-Aug-1997.html
Archive-15-Aug-1997.html
Archive-18-Aug-1997.html
Archive-21-Jul-1997.html
Archive-22-Jul-1997.html
Archive-25-Jul-1997.html
Archive-30-Sep-1997.html
Archive-4-Aug-1997.html
Archive-6-Aug-1997.html
Current.html
As you can see, because of the naming convention, there is no real sort
being done. I'd like the list to be sorted by date in descending order.
It would appear that I need an option to choose descending order, and that
I'd need to be able to change the naming convention so that it pads
single-digit dates with zeros so that it sort properly. Are either of
these options available?
Thanks,
Bill
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| Bill Catambay..................... <mailto:bill.m.catambay at lmco dot com> |
| Lockheed Martin, EIS.............. <phone:408.742.1000> |
| |
| Software Developer, Webmaster, Map Maker |
| http://nexus.lmms.lmco.com/DEMON |
| http://www.catambay.com/pascal-central |
| http://www.catambay.com/morgana |
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 19:12:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: Enkerli Alexandre <enkerlia at DITER.UMontreal dot CA>
Subject: Listmasters...
Ok, I went with the remote-admin solution.
Now, messages are posted via remote admin using a fake email-address (to
prevent other people from posting).
Now, because of this, I don't receive logs and stuff like that. But I
guess I can access those directly on the server.
So it does solve my problem but not in the way I expected. So be it!
What I meant about roles is that there's a guy (Christian) who posts
the messages. I'm in charge of the "technical" aspects. Christian wants
the messages' sender to be someone else or a fake address.
As for the overhead of being more than one person on this, I guess that it
won't be so important once the list is up and running.
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 22:18:33 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Question about Archives... [revisited]
At 12:59 -0700 30/9/1997, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>As you can see, because of the naming convention, there is no real sort
>being done. I'd like the list to be sorted by date in descending order.
>It would appear that I need an option to choose descending order, and that
>I'd need to be able to change the naming convention so that it pads
>single-digit dates with zeros so that it sort properly. Are either of
>these options available?
Sorry, not at this time. Has been added to my to-do list though.
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 13:34:44 -0500
From: "Tom A. Moberg" <TMoberg at miph dot org>
Subject: Another Question about Archives...
I have just recently gotten my web archives to work by, of course, changing
the format of the email archives to HTML instead of Text. The balloon help
said something about this not having anything to do with the web archives
(which had a valid Web Path) but of course it does. Now that I have
switched this to HTML my web archives have been created, but only the
messages sent since the switch are in the proper format.
Is there any way to re-format my past messages so that they show up
properly in the HTML archives? The older messages are listed, but the text
runs together and there are no links from the table of contents to each
individual message. I'm currently running Autoshare 1.3.
Thanks!
Tom
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email: tmoberg at miph dot org
Subject: Incoming files not being processed
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 97 20:19:19 +0100
From: Jed <jed at psy.herts.ac dot uk>
Hi,
I am using Autoshare 1.4.2 with EIMS 2.0 and have the following prob. The
Incoming Folder which resides in the Mail Folder of the System contains a
relatively large number of files (and growing fast) which are not being
processed by me ol' Autoshare App. Question is why the devil not! I
upgraded EIMS to version 2.0 at about the same time as this prob.
occured, so it could be this that caused the prob., but for the life of
me I can't see why EIMS no longer processes files in this folder. Any
clues?
Jed at psy.herts.ac dot uk
Subject: Incoming files not being processed (Solved!)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 97 20:49:41 +0100
From: Jed <jed at psy.herts.ac dot uk>
Hi,
I am using Autoshare 1.4.2 with EIMS 2.0 and have the following prob. The
Incoming Folder which resides in the Mail Folder of the System contains a
relatively large number of files (and growing fast) which are not being
processed by me ol' Autoshare App. Question is why the devil not! I
upgraded EIMS to version 2.0 at about the same time as this prob.
occured, so it could be this that caused the prob., but for the life of
me I can't see why EIMS no longer processes files in this folder. Any
clues?
Ignore the above, prob. solved! Yep the Incoming folder has indeed moved,
pointed Autoshare at the offending item and all is well.
Jed.
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 13:07:47 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Incoming files not being processed (Solved!)
At 20:49 +0100 1/10/1997, Jed wrote:
>Ignore the above, prob. solved! Yep the Incoming folder has indeed moved,
>pointed Autoshare at the offending item and all is well.
Happy to hear that :-) This and other items are mentioned at
<http://www.dnai.com/~meh/autoshare/postrelease/>
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 13:13:43 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Another Question about Archives...
At 13:34 -0500 1/10/1997, Tom A. Moberg wrote:
>I have just recently gotten my web archives to work by, of course, changing
>the format of the email archives to HTML instead of Text. The balloon help
>said something about this not having anything to do with the web archives
>(which had a valid Web Path) but of course it does.
Switching the format option from Text to HTML enables HTML formatted
archives, but not the automated web archives which requires the additional
configuration of a web path.
>Now that I have switched this to HTML my web archives have been created,
>but only the messages sent since the switch are in the proper format.
>
>Is there any way to re-format my past messages so that they show up
>properly in the HTML archives?
For 1.4.2, I was seriously considering adding the option of reformatting
past archives from Text to HTML, but ran out of time :-(
Date: 01 Oct 97 15:57:26 -0500
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: bounce problem
The message below is similar to several I have been receiving from
"bouncer" my bounce address. The thrust of this message is that this address:
ray_queener at sostpaul.k12.mn dot us
has fatal errors, so the Mail from the listserv can't be sent. I have
bounce turned "on" on the listserv program, so I would expect that this
person would automatically be removed from the list. He was not. Doubtless
I've missed something simple. Can someone fill me in?
TIA,
Chuck
(bounced message follows.)
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Subject: Bounce
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 15:32:34 -0500
Message-ID: <1336401921-32467117 at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 19:05:15 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: bounce problem
At 15:57 -0500 1/10/1997, Chuck Boody wrote:
>The message below is similar to several I have been receiving from
>"bouncer" my bounce address. The thrust of this message is that this address:
>
>ray_queener at sostpaul.k12.mn dot us
>
>has fatal errors, so the Mail from the listserv can't be sent. I have
>bounce turned "on" on the listserv program, so I would expect that this
>person would automatically be removed from the list. He was not. Doubtless
>I've missed something simple. Can someone fill me in?
>Text indicates: [] (not subscribed)
>Code indicates: [] (not subscribed)
>RFC From is: [earl_keyser at wayzata.k12.mn dot us] (does not matter)
>RFC To is: [KIC at stumail.hopkins.k12.mn dot us] (is a list)
> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
><ray_queener at sostpaul.k12.mn dot us>
>
> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
><ray_queener at sostpaul.k12.mn dot us>... Deferred: Connection refused by
>mail.sostpaul.k12.mn.us.
AutoShare's bounce module at this time does not recognize the above
wording. If it did, the address would appear in the "Text indicates" line.
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 14:34:56 -0400
From: "i.d." <id at mindinmotion dot com>
Subject: Bounce woes...
I'm a bit confused as to the way that the Bounce address is set up and
functions within Autoshare 1.3. I currently have a bounce account set up
with EIMS (forwarded to me), and the bounce option within the Misc window
in "On".
My question is this: What do I do to automatically clear the "bounce" and
"Temporary Mail" folders within System Folder:Mail Folder, since they've
grown quite large. I've started to get the following error messages every
minute or so within EIMS:
Not enough space on server!
Message move error -34
Moving message from to <my bounce address>
No, that's not a typo. There are a couple of spaces after "from" within the
last error message, so it looks like *something* is supposed to be there
that isn't.
The other thing is that I've got over 7Megs available on the drive, so it's
not really even out of space! I rebooted the machine, but it did no good.
I'm not quite sure what step to take next.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
David
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 10:52:38 -0400
From: "i.d." <id at mindinmotion dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare-Talk digest 3 Oct 1997
Forget the last question. I managed to have "Keep Copies" on for the Bounce
account within EIMS, so it was killing the server...
Thanks,
David
>Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 14:34:56 -0400
>From: "i.d." <id at mindinmotion dot com>
>Subject: Bounce woes...
>
>I'm a bit confused as to the way that the Bounce address is set up and
>functions within Autoshare 1.3. I currently have a bounce account set up
>with EIMS (forwarded to me), and the bounce option within the Misc window
>in "On".
>
>My question is this: What do I do to automatically clear the "bounce" and
>"Temporary Mail" folders within System Folder:Mail Folder, since they've
>grown quite large. I've started to get the following error messages every
>minute or so within EIMS:
>
>Not enough space on server!
>Message move error -34
>Moving message from to <my bounce address>
>
>No, that's not a typo. There are a couple of spaces after "from" within the
>last error message, so it looks like *something* is supposed to be there
>that isn't.
>
>The other thing is that I've got over 7Megs available on the drive, so it's
>not really even out of space! I rebooted the machine, but it did no good.
>I'm not quite sure what step to take next.
>
>Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>David
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 12:24:59 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Bounce woes...
At 14:34 -0400 2/10/1997, i.d. wrote:
>I'm a bit confused as to the way that the Bounce address is set up and
>functions within Autoshare 1.3. I currently have a bounce account set up
>with EIMS (forwarded to me), and the bounce option within the Misc window
>in "On".
This basic bounce configuration looks fine. (If on the other hand you want
to enable AutoShare's automated bounce module, the account type would be
save as files etc).
>My question is this: What do I do to automatically clear the "bounce" and
>"Temporary Mail" folders within System Folder:Mail Folder, since they've
>grown quite large.
Chances are that the EIMS configuration of your bounce account has keep
copies turned on, which is unnecessary when configured to forwarded. You
can set up a client configuration downloading the mail and then turn off
the keep copies in EIMS. As for the Temporary Mail file, you can
(probably?) trash it.
I've started to get the following error messages every
>minute or so within EIMS:
>
>Not enough space on server!
>Message move error -34
>Moving message from to <my bounce address>
-34 is "disk full".
>No, that's not a typo. There are a couple of spaces after "from" within the
>last error message, so it looks like *something* is supposed to be there
>that isn't.
If I remember correctly, this EIMS information specifies the SMTP envelope
sender and recipient. As the bounce address appears in the envelope sender
and may be configured to be blank, it may be explained this way (although
your AutoShare bounce configuration is not set to Empty...?).
>The other thing is that I've got over 7Megs available on the drive, so it's
>not really even out of space! I rebooted the machine, but it did no good.
>I'm not quite sure what step to take next.
You may want to ask Glenn about this on the EIMS-L list.
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:12:40 -0500
From: "Tom A. Moberg" <TMoberg at miph dot org>
Subject: Problems subscribing with attachments
I have someone trying to (unsuccesfully) get on one of my lists using
Netscape Mail. I think the problem is that every message he sends out
includes a 'vcard' attachment, one of the 'features' of the latest version
of Netscape Communicator. Through some tests it appears that Autoshare 1.3
(the version I am using) does not like subscribe (or other administrative
commands) with attachments. Has this been fixed for version 1.4 or are
there other solutions (short of telling this person to stop sending these
little attachments)?
Thanks!
Tom
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MN Star of the North Prevention Coalition -- http://www.miph.org/star
a project of the MN Institute of Public Health -- http://www.miph.org
voice: (612) 427-5310 fax: (612) 427-7841
email: tmoberg at miph dot org
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 23:10:27 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Problems subscribing with attachments
At 15:12 -0500 13/10/1997, Tom A. Moberg wrote:
>I have someone trying to (unsuccesfully) get on one of my lists using
>Netscape Mail. I think the problem is that every message he sends out
>includes a 'vcard' attachment, one of the 'features' of the latest version
>of Netscape Communicator.
This is indeed the cause of it. When the vcard is activated in the Netscape
Communicator (I use 4.0.3) preferences (Identity, Mail & Groups, Address
Book Card), it is attached as a MIME attachment, and so a few lines are
inserted at the very beginning of the body such as
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--------------DAB79B5A6F53F27E8DC60AA1
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854";
x-mac-creator="4D4F5353"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
indicating a following initial text portion; the attachment portion
appearing later in the body has a similar set of lines defining it as an
attachment. This is how MIME works (which you can also see in AutoShare's
MIME auto-responses with enclosures), and there really isn't any way around
it. Except keeping it as plain as you can (e.g. no enclosures), as list
server commands are expected to begin in the first line of the body (not
counting blank lines).
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 14:53:16 +0200
From: Christer Olsson <christer at ljusaideer dot se>
Subject: Stripping X-headers
I'm sorry if I'm asking something obvious, but I can't find anything in the
docs about stripping X-headers from mail before sending them to a list.
I want to remove all X-headers added by clients and just send my own
header, nothing else.
X-Mirrored-by: christer-l.m at mail.buildit dot com
X-Sender: christer at mail.buildit dot com (Unverified)
Mime-Version: 1.0
X-Fax-Cover: *NONE*
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 14:33:19 +0200
Reply-To: christer-l at buildit dot net (Subscribers of christer-l)
Precedence: bulk
List-Software: AutoShare 1.4.2 by Mikael Hansen
To: christer-l at buildit dot net (Subscribers of christer-l)
From: Christer Olsson <christer at ljusaideer dot se>
should be stripped to just
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 14:33:19 +0200
Reply-To: christer-l at buildit dot net (Subscribers of christer-l)
Precedence: bulk
List-Software: AutoShare 1.4.2 by Mikael Hansen
To: christer-l at buildit dot net (Subscribers of christer-l)
From: Christer Olsson <christer at ljusaideer dot se>
(Yes, I know that X-Mirrored-by and X-sender is added by SIMS).
BTW: is there also a way to reorder the mail header?
*************************************************************
Christer Olsson Stora Nygatan 21 Phone +46 40 791 50
Art director S-211 37 Malmoe Fax +46 40 97 99 77
Ljusa Ideer AB Sweden http://www.ljusaideer.se
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 07:35:14 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Stripping X-headers
At 14:53 +0200 14/10/1997, Christer Olsson wrote:
>I'm sorry if I'm asking something obvious, but I can't find anything in the
>docs about stripping X-headers from mail before sending them to a list.
>
>I want to remove all X-headers added by clients and just send my own
>header, nothing else.
>
>X-Mirrored-by: christer-l.m at mail.buildit dot com
>(Yes, I know that X-Mirrored-by and X-sender is added by SIMS).
AutoShare does not currently remove all X- headers before processing a list
contribution, but I'll consider making this an option.
>BTW: is there also a way to reorder the mail header?
Not at this time.
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 10:26:33 -0600
From: David Faber <d-faber at uchicago dot edu>
Subject: Problems with Claris mail and listmaster
One of my lists sends me every post in duplicate. I checked and I am only
subscribed under one entry, although I am also the "listmaster". My other
lists do not exhibit this behaviour, and I have been through all the
obvious stuff.
Also, I have one client who cannot post to an open list using Claris mail.
The error message returned to her is "document not available". I post the
same message for (changing the return address field to hers) and it goies
through fine. It IS an open list.
____D__a__v__i__d_____F__a__b__e__r_________________________________
dfaber at dacc.uchicago dot edu
voice:...........773.702.9921 fax:.............773.702.1182
World Wide Web... http://dacc.uchicago.edu/faber/
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 11:40:36 -0700
From: Gary Szabo <gszabo at centralia.ctc dot edu>
Subject: problem: Binhex attachments rejected, MIME okay
Greetings, folks. Forgive me if this might have been covered
before...scanning the archives didn't produce any good hits...
Recently I've had a problem where users cannot send BinHex attachments,
only MIME attachments.
Attachments sent from person to person arrive intact, but attachments sent
to lists do not. AutoShare version is 1.4.2, EIMS version is 1.2.
Mail clients are mainly Eudora Light/Mac: 1.5.X, 3.0.2 and 3.1.
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 19:36:24 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: problem: Binhex attachments rejected, MIME okay
At 11:40 -0700 14/10/1997, Gary Szabo wrote:
>Recently I've had a problem where users cannot send BinHex attachments,
>only MIME attachments.
>
>Attachments sent from person to person arrive intact, but attachments sent
>to lists do not. AutoShare version is 1.4.2, EIMS version is 1.2.
>
>Mail clients are mainly Eudora Light/Mac: 1.5.X, 3.0.2 and 3.1.
What is your AutoShare MIME setting configured for? There is a good number
of combinations of server configuration versus client originated format.
Could you send me a copy of a message file in the Filed Mail folder? Turn
processing off just before resending.
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 19:30:24 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Problems with Claris mail and listmaster
At 10:26 -0600 14/10/1997, David Faber wrote:
>One of my lists sends me every post in duplicate. I checked and I am only
>subscribed under one entry, although I am also the "listmaster". My other
>lists do not exhibit this behaviour, and I have been through all the
>obvious stuff.
Chances are that a non-subscriber address forwards to a subscriber address.
>Also, I have one client who cannot post to an open list using Claris mail.
>The error message returned to her is "document not available". I post the
>same message for (changing the return address field to hers) and it goies
>through fine. It IS an open list.
That is odd. Could you send me a copy of a message file in the Filed Mail
folder? Turn processing off just before she resends.
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 14:04:09 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Posting question
I have just discovered that if I try to make a post to a list I just
configured and the subject starts with "list" or "who", that the listserver
thinks its getting a command. My lists are set up so that commands are in
the body, not the subject, so how do I get Autoshare to ignore commands in
the subject? It's actually pretty common to have subjects begin with
"list" or "who".
Thanks,
Bill Catambay
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Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 06:47:23 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Posting question
At 14:04 -0700 21/10/1997, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>I have just discovered that if I try to make a post to a list I just
>configured and the subject starts with "list" or "who", that the listserver
>thinks its getting a command. My lists are set up so that commands are in
>the body, not the subject, so how do I get Autoshare to ignore commands in
>the subject? It's actually pretty common to have subjects begin with
>"list" or "who".
I'm thinking of making this kind of protection optional in the future.
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 08:58:24 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Mac OS 8 Compatibility
I'd like to upgrade my server to OS 8, but before I do that, can anyone
confirm for me that EIMS 1.1.2 and Autoshare 1.4.2 are compatible with OS 8?
Thanks,
Bill
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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:39:17 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Mac OS 8 Compatibility
At 08:58 -0700 27/10/1997, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>I'd like to upgrade my server to OS 8, but before I do that, can
>anyone confirm for me that EIMS 1.1.2 and Autoshare 1.4.2 are
>compatible with OS 8?
Autoshare 1.4.2 is definitely fine with OS 8. I don't know about EIMS 1.1.2
for sure, but have just tried it, and it appears to be okay.
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 01:28:09 -0400
From: Jerry Thompson <jthompson at directhit dot com>
Subject: re: Mac OS 8 Compatibility
> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 08:58:24 -0700
> From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
> Subject: Mac OS 8 Compatibility
>
> I'd like to upgrade my server to OS 8, but before I do that, can anyone
> confirm for me that EIMS 1.1.2 and Autoshare 1.4.2 are compatible with OS 8?
I have been running OS 8, EIMS 1.1.2, and Autoshare 1.4.2, for the last few
days without any problems at all.
Best Regards,
Jerry Thompson
Webmaster,
PP List Mgmt
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:17:03 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Another Web - Archive question...
First of all, thanks for the confirmation that Autoshare is good with OS 8.
I'll be upgrading the server this week (got my fingers crossed just in
case).
I'm having troubles getting my web archives to work. I got one of my lists
to automatically create the complete web archives, but I cannot get the
other lists to work. I've set them up the same way, with the web path set
to the same place, but it just isn't working. In the web folder, there is
a folder created for the mailing list which does work, but there are no
folders for the other mailing lists; and no web archives. I've lowered the
archive count on the lists to generate them faster, but to no avail. I
also looked in the "Archives" folder, and the lists in questions have empty
folders in there. No archives, and not even a current.html.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Bill
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Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 18:26:46 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Another Web - Archive question...
At 10:17 -0700 28/10/1997, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>I also looked in the "Archives" folder, and the lists in questions have
>empty folders in there. No archives, and not even a current.html.
This is the important part. If no web standard archives are created for the
list, no automated web archives will be created either, as the latter build
on the former. Look at the status window when a list contribution is
processed and see if any "updating archives" messages are displayed.
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 12:18:52 -0600
From: "Tom A. Moberg" <TMoberg at miph dot org>
Subject: Prefix insertion
I have set up one of my lists to insert the list name as a prefix in the
Subject line of all messages. It seems like there is some algorithm,
however, about when this prefix is inserted and when it is not. Is it
correct that the prefix is NOT inserted if the list message is a response
to a previous message? Or is there something else going on?
Thanks!
Tom
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Tom A. Moberg -- Telecommunications Coordinator
MN Star of the North Prevention Coalition -- http://www.miph.org/star
a project of the MN Institute of Public Health -- http://www.miph.org
voice: (612) 427-5310 fax: (612) 427-7841
email: tmoberg at miph dot org
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 13:16:11 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: Another Web - Archive question...
At 6:26 PM -0800 on 10/28/97, Mikael Hansen wrote:
> At 10:17 -0700 28/10/1997, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>
> >I also looked in the "Archives" folder, and the lists in questions have
> >empty folders in there. No archives, and not even a current.html.
>
> This is the important part. If no web standard archives are created for the
> list, no automated web archives will be created either, as the latter build
> on the former. Look at the status window when a list contribution is
> processed and see if any "updating archives" messages are displayed.
>
I don't know what I did, but I got the Archives to start generating as of
today for both lists that were in question. There were no archives for any
of the posts made before today (about 2 weeks worth), and I don't know what
I did to make it start working. I used Admin to verify the web paths, but
as you said, the Archives are what's important, and I didn't change
anything about the Archive folder. I did make the post from the admin
account, but I don't see how that would have affected anything. I'm at a
complete loss as to why it all of a sudden started updating the archives
today. Any ideas?
Bill
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Date: 29 Oct 97 14:48:40 -0600
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: Autoreply accounts problem
I'm trying to set up autoreply accounts using Autoshare that will enclose
addressbooks for our mail system.
The procedure seems to work correctly for text files, but not when I have
an enclosure to send. I follow the directions to keep the name the same
but add the hqx extension and binhex the file to be enclosed. So my two
files are "addressbook1" and "addressbook1.hqx" Requesting the two
documents works correctly except the enclosure is appended to the message rather
than arriving as an enclosure. That defeats the whole purpose. I was
sure this was working years ago when I tested it with earlier versions of
EIMS and Autoshare. Currently the serving machine uses Autoshare 1.4 and
EIMS 1.1.2 and the flow of the mail returns the item to me through EIMS1.2
(a long story about why the serving machine has not bee updated to EIMS
1.2--I don't think that is the problem but...).
I've tried receiving the mail and sending the requests with Eudora Lite
3.1.11 on a Mac and with QuickMail Pro 1.5 on a Mac. Same result. The
enclosure is appended to the document.
Solutions anyone? Glenn? Mikael? Josh? Others??
I get some digests so a direct response as well as the listserve response
would be appreciated if you have time.
Thanks,
Chuck Boody
EIMS and Autoshare forever!
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 12:43:19 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Another Web - Archive question...
At 13:16 -0700 29/10/1997, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>I'm at a complete loss as to why it all of a sudden started updating
>the archives today. Any ideas?
A wild guess: do you by any chance post directly to the <list> dot m@ address
rather than to the <list>@ address, thereby completely bypassing AutoShare?
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 12:56:16 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Prefix insertion
At 12:18 -0600 29/10/1997, Tom A. Moberg wrote:
>I have set up one of my lists to insert the list name as a prefix in the
>Subject line of all messages. It seems like there is some algorithm,
>however, about when this prefix is inserted and when it is not. Is it
>correct that the prefix is NOT inserted if the list message is a response
>to a previous message? Or is there something else going on?
If the prefix is [p] and the subject line is
Subject: fun
the posted subject line will become
Subject: [p] fun
If the subject line is
Subject: Re: [p] fun
the posted subject line will stay
Subject: Re: [p] fun
If the subject line is
Subject: Re: fun
the posted subject line will become
Subject: Re: [p] fun
The above are the main variations only :-)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 13:56:24 -0800
From: Gary Szabo <gszabo at centralia.ctc dot edu>
Subject: Re:Autoreply accounts problem
At 2:48 PM -0600 10/29/97, Chuck Boody wrote:
>I'm trying to set up autoreply accounts using Autoshare that will enclose
>addressbooks for our mail system.
>
>The procedure seems to work correctly for text files, but not when I have
>an enclosure to send. I follow the directions to keep the name the same
>but add the hqx extension and binhex the file to be enclosed. So my two
>files are "addressbook1" and "addressbook1.hqx" Requesting the two
>documents works correctly except the enclosure is appended to the message
>rather
>than arriving as an enclosure. That defeats the whole purpose. I was
>sure this was working years ago when I tested it with earlier versions of
My solution was this:
* binhex the addressbook file;
* open the binhex file with a word processor as text (I use MS Word Mac 5.1
because I'm a contrarian);
* add your message (such as installation instructions) to the top of the
text file, inserting your lines above the binhex portion.
Then your autoreply will contain both, and it will properly display the
attachment.
__________________________________________________________
| Gary G. Szabo | |
| Director of Technology & | Centralia College |
| Computer Services | 600 W. Locust Ave. |
| gszabo at centralia.ctc dot edu | Centralia, WA 98531-4099 |
| (360)736-9391 x297 | |
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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 17:11:24 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: Another Web - Archive question...
At 12:43 PM -0800 on 10/29/97, Mikael Hansen wrote:
> At 13:16 -0700 29/10/1997, Camelot Administrator wrote:
>
> >I'm at a complete loss as to why it all of a sudden started updating
> >the archives today. Any ideas?
>
> A wild guess: do you by any chance post directly to the <list> dot m@ address
> rather than to the <list>@ address, thereby completely bypassing AutoShare?
>
Nope. Posts all go to <list>@address.
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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 17:54:24 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Autoreply accounts problem
At 14:48 -0600 29/10/1997, Chuck Boody wrote:
>The procedure seems to work correctly for text files, but not when I have
>an enclosure to send.
This is most likely a MIME boundary lines thing and as such not an EIMS issue.
>Currently the serving machine uses Autoshare 1.4 and EIMS 1.1.2
You may want to upgrade to 1.4.2, which does fix some MIME stuff related to
boundary lines in the message body. If that doesn't do it for you, then
could you send me a StuffIt'ed copy of a response file from the Incoming
Mail folder?
(To avoid EIMS processing the file before you can get it, you may want to
temporarily configure the Incoming Mail folder path to point to another
folder. Or shut down and restart applications as needed.)
Date: 30 Oct 97 09:52:45 -0600
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: Re: Autoreply accounts problem
Mikael Hansen wrote:
>At 14:48 -0600 29/10/1997, Chuck Boody wrote:
>
>>The procedure seems to work correctly for text files, but not when I
have
>>an enclosure to send.
>
>This is most likely a MIME boundary lines thing and as such not an EIMS
issue.
>
>>Currently the serving machine uses Autoshare 1.4 and EIMS 1.1.2
>
>You may want to upgrade to 1.4.2, which does fix some MIME stuff related
to
>boundary lines in the message body.
Further information:
1) A binhexed file will be progerly delivered as an attachment to the
file when received with Eudora. That same file will not be received as an
enclosure received in QM Pro. So, the problem appears to be QM Pro. I'm
going to see what I can find out from the QM lists.
2) Just to be sure I did upgrade to 1.4.2 of Autoshare with no change of
behavior.
3) Autoshare is smarter than I Ithought. A text file marked as
filename.hqx will get appended to the file filename regardless of receiving client
(as far as I have checked). This would allow all sorts of clever things
to be done....
4) It would be handy to be able to specify the file to be attached
through some sort of token to be enclosed in the text file. Seems to me one
could allow the user to have a text file that puts the name of the file or
files to be enclosed on a single line in the text file (probably comma
separated if more than one textfile. Then the token could be //enclosure3
where 3 would be the number of the line in the text file specifying the
files to be attached. This could be an added feature without changing the way
things currently work.... Just a thought...
Chuck Boody
Subject: list-specific help files not working
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 97 15:01:00 -0800
From: Gabriel Shirley <gabriel at bigmindmedia dot com>
Hi,
Thanks for creating such a great product! Setup and operation has been
very smooth for us so far except for one thing: list-specific help files
do not work. The "default" file gets returned no matter what Help.<list>
files exist. Perhaps I'm missing something? We're using Autoshare 1.4.
Thanks for the help,
Gabriel
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Subject: Re: overwhelmed by header info
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 97 15:00:54 -0800
From: Gabriel Shirley <gabriel at bigmindmedia dot com>
Hi,
Not sure if this is the same question that was asked recently, so here
goes: I have a Mac Eudora list reader who's reporting huge ugly headers
on every msg she gets from the list (example below). Is there a way to
eliminate this?
Thanks,
Gabriel
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 18:35:08 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: overwhelmed by header info
At 15:00 -0800 30/10/1997, Gabriel Shirley wrote:
>Not sure if this is the same question that was asked recently, so here
>goes: I have a Mac Eudora list reader who's reporting huge ugly headers
>on every msg she gets from the list (example below). Is there a way to
>eliminate this?
In the Admin, type Command-L for the Lists window, then select the list and
click the More List button. In the More List window, include the string
123456789 in the Suppress RFC headers field, and all List- headers except
the copyright field will not appear in list contributions to come.
For details on turning off individual fields, see the balloon help (or drag
the AutoShare application onto the Script Editor and look for the RFC
headers property in the List Options).
This can also be done on a client basis (hiding rather than removing
though). Using Eudora, get the Esoteric Settings file from
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/eudorapro/mac/extras/settings_plugins/EsotericSet
tings3.1.hqx> and edit the Boring Headers setting.
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 18:55:59 -0800
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: list-specific help files not working
At 15:01 -0800 30/10/1997, Gabriel Shirley wrote:
>Thanks for creating such a great product!
Thanks :-)
>Setup and operation has been very smooth for us so far except for one
>thing: list-specific help files do not work. The "default" file gets
>returned no matter what Help.<list> files exist. Perhaps I'm missing
>something? We're using Autoshare 1.4.
The Help.<list> is not currently supported, as this format works for Sub
and Unsub only (if I remember correctly). I plan on changing this in the
next version by using the header and footer mechanism, which goes as
follows:
If the document exists, then use it as default. If the document is not a
file, but a folder, then pick up the list-specific document file within the
folder.
This lends itself easily to supporting all commands in a list-specific way,
including non-standard commands such as Help.
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 10:09:44 +0000
From: James Berriman <J.R.Berriman at staffs.ac dot uk>
Subject: Re: list-specific help files not working
At 23:01 30/10/97, Gabriel Shirley wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Thanks for creating such a great product! Setup and operation has been
>very smooth for us so far except for one thing: list-specific help files
>do not work.
What I'd do is create a file called <list> for each list, rather than
help.<list>
Then you can point people to the 'list' file (perhaps with a pointer from
the main 'help' file).
( :-]) James
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 14:47:20 +0100
From: jose.accino at ice.uma dot es (Jose A. Accino)
Subject: EIMS 2.x
Looking on my mailboxes I've just seen that I don't receive any mssgs
from mailshare list since some months ago. So, although this is not
the fully adequate site to post the question, where could I get
latest EIMS version? I don't see it on qualcomm ftp site...
TIA,
JA.
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