The qpopper list archive ending on 13 Mar 1999
Topics covered in this issue include:
1.
2. test -- please ignore
Listmaster <listmaster at lists.pensive dot org>
Mon, 1 Mar 1999 09:06:17 -0800
3. Re: qpopper not releasing lock
Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Mon, 1 Mar 1999 18:06:51 -0800
4. Reverse DNS lookups
Roger Linder <roger at water.ca dot gov>
Wed, 3 Mar 1999 09:22:26 -0800
5. Re: Reverse DNS lookups
Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Wed, 3 Mar 1999 11:01:42 -0800
6. 2.53 bulletin problem
"P de Lisle" <pdelisle-l at bizonline.co dot uk>
Thu, 4 Mar 1999 13:07:13 -0000
7. v2.53 - server mode - how?
"P de Lisle" <pdelisle-l at bizonline.co dot uk>
Thu, 4 Mar 1999 13:07:13 -0000
8. v2.53 vs v3bxxx
"P de Lisle" <pdelisle-l at bizonline.co dot uk>
Thu, 4 Mar 1999 13:07:13 -0000
9. Re: v2.53 vs v3bxxx
Greg Frieden <admin at radiks dot net>
Thu, 04 Mar 1999 08:17:31 -0600
10. Re: v2.53 vs v3bxxx
Erik Andersen <erikande at danbbs dot dk>
Thu, 04 Mar 1999 15:21:05 +0100
11. configuring for mailspool in ~/.Mailbox
"Surinder S. Dio" <S.S.Dio at greenwich.ac dot uk>
Thu, 04 Mar 1999 16:09:51 +0000
12. Re: v2.53 vs v3bxxx
"S.T. Wong" <st at sps.csc.cuhk.edu dot hk>
Fri, 5 Mar 1999 00:10:11 +0800 (EAT)
13. Re: configuring for mailspool in ~/.Mailbox
Chris Marble <cmarble at orion.ac.hmc dot edu>
Thu, 4 Mar 1999 09:09:17 -0800 (PST)
14. can user/pass and apop coexist?
Raj Singh <rs at syncline dot com>
Thu, 04 Mar 1999 12:26:22 -0500
15. Re: can user/pass and apop coexist?
Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Fri, 5 Mar 1999 15:44:35 +1300 (NZDT)
16. Bulletin database errors
Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Fri, 5 Mar 1999 15:46:09 +1300 (NZDT)
17. Re: configuring for mailspool in ~/.Mailbox
"Surinder S. Dio" <S.S.Dio at greenwich.ac dot uk>
Fri, 05 Mar 1999 10:15:59 +0000
18. Re: configuring for mailspool in ~/.Mailbox
"Surinder S. Dio" <S.S.Dio at greenwich.ac dot uk>
Fri, 05 Mar 1999 11:06:51 +0000
19. Re: configuring for mailspool in ~/.Mailbox
jtm at shore dot net
Fri, 5 Mar 1999 08:07:55 -0500 (EST)
20. Re: can user/pass and apop coexist?
"Tabor J. Wells" <twells at shore dot net>
Fri, 5 Mar 1999 11:35:58 -0500
21. Re: can user/pass and apop coexist?
Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Sat, 6 Mar 1999 06:16:31 +1300 (NZDT)
22. Re: configuring for mailspool in ~/.Mailbox
"Surinder S. Dio" <S.S.Dio at greenwich.ac dot uk>
Fri, 05 Mar 1999 17:45:33 +0000
23. Re: can user/pass and apop coexist?
Raj Singh <rs at syncline dot com>
Fri, 05 Mar 1999 15:45:52 -0500
24. Cannot init popauth
info at edoc.co dot za
Thu, 11 Mar 1999 13:42:08 +0200
25. Re: v2.53 vs v3bxxx
Brad Groshok <bgroshok at odyssey.on dot ca>
Thu, 11 Mar 1999 09:28:20 -0500
26. RE: Cannot init popauth
"wayne forrest" <waynef at cashbank.co dot za>
Thu, 11 Mar 1999 16:15:07 +0200
27. QPopper with IU IMAP
"Brett Lucey" <brettl at splusnet dot com>
Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:48:43 -0500
28. Re: v2.53 vs v3bxxx
pashah at spb.sitek dot net
Fri, 12 Mar 1999 02:04:02 +0300
29. RE: Cannot init popauth
"Evan Erwin" <obiwan at frag dot com>
Thu, 11 Mar 1999 18:16:02 -0500
30. can't open popauth DB
"Nickolas Ray Ellson" <grimm at nickellson dot com>
Thu, 11 Mar 1999 15:50:35 -0800
31. (no subject)
Bill Riner <briner at lituus dot net>
Thu, 11 Mar 1999 19:50:47 -0800
32. RE: Cannot init popauth
info at edoc.co dot za
Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:18:42 +0200
33. RE: QPopper with IU IMAP
"wayne forrest" <waynef at cashbank.co dot za>
Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:39:40 +0200
34. Re: can't open popauth DB
Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Sat, 13 Mar 1999 00:56:32 +1300 (NZDT)
35. RE: QPopper with IU IMAP
Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Sat, 13 Mar 1999 01:21:11 +1300 (NZDT)
36. Re: can't open popauth DB
info at edoc.co dot za
Fri, 12 Mar 1999 14:51:25 +0200
37. RE: QPopper with IU IMAP
James E Gaynor <gaynor at ee.eng.ohio-state dot edu>
Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:46:43 -0500 (EST)
38. RE: QPopper with IU IMAP
Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Sat, 13 Mar 1999 03:28:27 +1300 (NZDT)
39. RE: QPopper with IU IMAP
James E Gaynor <gaynor at ee.eng.ohio-state dot edu>
Fri, 12 Mar 1999 09:40:30 -0500 (EST)
40. Re: can't open popauth DB
"Nickolas Ray Ellson" <grimm at nickellson dot com>
Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:05:50 -0800
41. Re: can't open popauth DB
Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Sat, 13 Mar 1999 05:36:44 +1300 (NZDT)
42. RE: QPopper with IU IMAP
Brett Lucey <brettl at splusnet dot com>
Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:02:40 -0500 (EST)
43.
"Eugenio Garrido" <eugenio at buscanet dot com>
Fri, 12 Mar 1999 18:21:47 +0100
44. RE: QPopper with IU IMAP
James E Gaynor <gaynor at ee.eng.ohio-state dot edu>
Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:57:13 -0500 (EST)
45. Re: can't open popauth DB
"Nickolas Ray Ellson" <grimm at nickellson dot com>
Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:42:23 -0800
46. Errors compiling qpopper3.0b13
info at edoc.co dot za
Sat, 13 Mar 1999 15:50:32 +0200
47. Re: Errors compiling qpopper3.0b13
"Nickolas Ray Ellson" <grimm at nickellson dot com>
Sat, 13 Mar 1999 11:23:58 -0800
48. Re: Errors compiling qpopper3.0b13
Ralf Folkerts <folkerts at ibm dot net>
Sat, 13 Mar 1999 20:34:57 +0100
49. Which Clients do support APOP?
Ralf Folkerts <folkerts at ibm dot net>
Sat, 13 Mar 1999 20:52:06 +0100
50. Re: Which Clients do support APOP?
Dion Almaer <dion at medservelink dot com>
Sat, 13 Mar 1999 16:49:35 -0600 (CST)
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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 16:08:56 +0000
To: qpopper at lists.pensive dot org
From: Dr R L Oswald <R.L.Oswald at Cranfield.ac dot uk>
Subject: Compiling qpopper3b14 on Sunos 4.1.3/gcc 2.8.1
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
I have been unable to compile the 3b14 beta using gcc 2.8.1 under Sunos 4.13:
It bails out at this point:
# make
cd ./popper && make all
cd ../mmangle && make all
gcc -c -I.. -I. -I.. -I../popper -g -O2 -fstrength-reduce
-fpcc-struct-return -D
HAVE_CONFIG_H -DSUNOS4 -DUNIX mime.c -o mime.o
mime.c: In function `MimeProcess':
mime.c:897: `SEEK_SET' undeclared (first use in this function)
mime.c:897: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
mime.c:897: for each function it appears in.)
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `mime.o'
Current working directory /usr/local/qpopper3.0/mmangle
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `mangler_library'
Current working directory /usr/local/qpopper3.0/popper
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `popper_server'
Anyone got any ideas on fixing this ?
regards
Les Oswald
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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 09:06:17 -0800
From: Listmaster <listmaster at lists.pensive dot org>
Subject: test -- please ignore
(the previous contribution to this list came out garbled, so I am
sending this test message to check. Please ignore it; I apologize
for the inconvenience)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 18:06:51 -0800
From: Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: qpopper not releasing lock
At 12:06 PM +0800 2/25/99, Byron Jones wrote:
> i'm running qpopper-2.53-1-PAM on redhat 5.2. something that's been
> happening frequently is when someone checks their email, the qpopper
> process and the lock on their file isn't being released in any decent
> lentgh of time (ie more than 5 minutes).
It may take a significant amount of time (well over 5 minutes) if
users have very large mail spools, and you are not using server mode,
or if you are but users do not either delete everything or nothing.
--
Randall Gellens
rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com
Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 09:22:26 -0800
From: Roger Linder <roger at water.ca dot gov>
Subject: Reverse DNS lookups
Now that I'm aware of the -R switch in the latest beta, could I get
an explanation of the consequences of using it?
-- Roger D. Linder
Calif. Dept. of Water Resources
http://www.water.ca.gov/rdlinder
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 11:01:42 -0800
From: Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Subject: Re: Reverse DNS lookups
At 9:22 AM -0800 3/3/99, Roger Linder wrote:
> Now that I'm aware of the -R switch in the latest beta, could I get
> an explanation of the consequences of using it?
> -- Roger D. Linder
> Calif. Dept. of Water Resources
> http://www.water.ca.gov/rdlinder
Instead of having both the IP address and the DNS name of the client
in your logs, you'll only have the IP address. Logins will be
somewhat faster. You can always do a reverse lookup on an IP address
manually, if you like, using nslookup.
--
Randall Gellens Randy at Pensive dot Org
---------------------- (randomly-selected tag) ---------------------
Whenever you find that you are on the side of the majority, it is
time to reform. --Mark Twain
From: "P de Lisle" <pdelisle-l at bizonline.co dot uk>
Subject: 2.53 bulletin problem
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 13:07:13 -0000
I'm seeing a lot of error messages to the effect that the popbull file
cannot be created. Lot's of disk space and no quotas.
Any ideas?
Regards
Philip
--
Philip de Lisle
Managing Director
-------------- Business Online (UK) plc --------------
Business Online | Public Online
http://www.bizonline.net | http://www.publiconline.net
------------- Britain's Premier Free ISP --------------
From: "P de Lisle" <pdelisle-l at bizonline.co dot uk>
Subject: v2.53 - server mode - how?
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 13:07:13 -0000
How do I get qpopper to run as a daemon? We have several thousand users and
things can slow down a fair bit <g>
Regards
Philip
--
Philip de Lisle
Managing Director
-------------- Business Online (UK) plc --------------
Business Online | Public Online
http://www.bizonline.net | http://www.publiconline.net
------------- Britain's Premier Free ISP --------------
From: "P de Lisle" <pdelisle-l at bizonline.co dot uk>
Subject: v2.53 vs v3bxxx
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 13:07:13 -0000
Is v3bxxx stable enough to use in a production environment for a mid-sized
ISP (several thousand users)?
Regards
Philip
--
Philip de Lisle
Managing Director
-------------- Business Online (UK) plc --------------
Business Online | Public Online
http://www.bizonline.net | http://www.publiconline.net
------------- Britain's Premier Free ISP --------------
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 08:17:31 -0600
From: Greg Frieden <admin at radiks dot net>
Subject: Re: v2.53 vs v3bxxx
We are using 3.0b14 with about 15000 users and have found it to be stable.
At 01:07 PM 3/4/99 +0000, you wrote:
>Is v3bxxx stable enough to use in a production environment for a mid-sized
>ISP (several thousand users)?
>
>Regards
>
>Philip
>--
>Philip de Lisle
>Managing Director
>-------------- Business Online (UK) plc --------------
>Business Online | Public Online
>http://www.bizonline.net | http://www.publiconline.net
>------------- Britain's Premier Free ISP --------------
>
Greg Frieden
Systems Administrator
Radiks Internet Access
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 15:21:05 +0100
From: Erik Andersen <erikande at danbbs dot dk>
Subject: Re: v2.53 vs v3bxxx
P de Lisle wrote:
>
> Is v3bxxx stable enough to use in a production environment for a mid-sized
> ISP (several thousand users)?
>
> Regards
>
> Philip
> --
> Philip de Lisle
> Managing Director
> -------------- Business Online (UK) plc --------------
> Business Online | Public Online
> http://www.bizonline.net | http://www.publiconline.net
> ------------- Britain's Premier Free ISP --------------
we are running a system here with appx 20.000 users, 3.014b is
very stable, never fails.
Rgds, Erik
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 16:09:51 +0000
From: "Surinder S. Dio" <S.S.Dio at greenwich.ac dot uk>
Subject: configuring for mailspool in ~/.Mailbox
Hi,
I'm trying to compile up 2.53 for use on a pop server. All user mail is
delivered to users homedirs in unix format to a file called .Mailbox (ie
~/.Mailbox) I have read and re-read the install docs and can really determine
what it is I need to change in pop_dropcopy.c.
I've tried changing the reference in getpath() to /home/%s/.Mailbox and also
~/.Mailbox and tried defining a HOMEDIRMAIL variable in popper.h
All to no avail - yes I am not a C coder :-) as u may have spotted
Any clues pls as to what I should change.
Additionally should I just jump to the beta versions of 3 and if so is this
going to be easier to configure?
Many thx
Shin
From: "S.T. Wong" <st at sps.csc.cuhk.edu dot hk>
Subject: Re: v2.53 vs v3bxxx
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 00:10:11 +0800 (EAT)
Hi, I tried 3.014b on HP-UX 10.20. The daemon doesn't response if APOP is
enabled during configuration. Would anyone pls shed some light ?
Thanks !
Rgds,
ST Wong
> P de Lisle wrote:
> >
> > Is v3bxxx stable enough to use in a production environment for a mid-sized
> > ISP (several thousand users)?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Philip
> > --
> > Philip de Lisle
> > Managing Director
> > -------------- Business Online (UK) plc --------------
> > Business Online | Public Online
> > http://www.bizonline.net | http://www.publiconline.net
> > ------------- Britain's Premier Free ISP --------------
>
>
> we are running a system here with appx 20.000 users, 3.014b is
> very stable, never fails.
>
> Rgds, Erik
From: Chris Marble <cmarble at orion.ac.hmc dot edu>
Subject: Re: configuring for mailspool in ~/.Mailbox
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 09:09:17 -0800 (PST)
Surinder S. Dio wrote:
>
> I'm trying to compile up 2.53 for use on a pop server. All user mail is
> delivered to users homedirs in unix format to a file called .Mailbox (ie
> ~/.Mailbox) I have read and re-read the install docs and can really determine
> what it is I need to change in pop_dropcopy.c.
>
> I've tried changing the reference in getpath() to /home/%s/.Mailbox and also
> ~/.Mailbox and tried defining a HOMEDIRMAIL variable in popper.h
I installed 2.53 on Sun Solaris 2.6 with mail delivered to ~/.mail
Comparing Makefile to Makefile.in shows these differences:
diff Makefile Makefile.in
1d0
< # Generated automatically from Makefile.in by configure.
26c25
< CC = gcc
---
> CC = @CC@
32,39c31,39
< srcdir = .
< CFLAGS = -g -O2 -fstrength-reduce -fpcc-struct-return
< DEFS = -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
< O_DEFS = -DSOLARIS2 -DAUTH -DGNU_PASS -DNO_GETLINE -DCONTENT_LENGTH=1 -DHOMEDIRMAIL -DBULLDB -DCHECK_SHELL
< prefix = /usr/local
< exec_prefix = ${prefix}
< TARGET = popper
< INSTALLDIR = ${exec_prefix}/bin
---
> srcdir = @srcdir@
> VPATH = ${srcdir}
> CFLAGS = @CFLAGS@
> DEFS = @DEFS@
> O_DEFS = @O_DEFS@
> prefix = @prefix@
> exec_prefix = @exec_prefix@
> TARGET = @TARGET@
> INSTALLDIR = @bindir@
42,46c42,46
< MANDIR = ${prefix}/man/cat8
< NETWORK_LIBS = -lnsl -lsocket -lresolv -lmail
< KERBEROS_LIBS = -lkrb
< DBM_LIBS =
< LIBS = -lnsl -lsocket -lresolv -lmail -lkrb -lcrypt
---
> MANDIR = @mandir@/cat8
> NETWORK_LIBS = @NETWORK_LIBS@
> KERBEROS_LIBS = @KERBEROS_LIBS@
> DBM_LIBS = @DBM_LIBS@
> LIBS = @NETWORK_LIBS@ @KERBEROS_LIBS@ @DBM_LIBS@ @LIBS@
--
Chris_Marble at hmc dot edu - HMC UNIX & Information Systems Manager
My opinions are my own and probably don't represent anything anyway.
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 12:26:22 -0500
From: Raj Singh <rs at syncline dot com>
Subject: can user/pass and apop coexist?
I'm using qpopper with APOP, but for various reasons I'd like to
allow a few selected users to use Netscape Communicator's mail reader,
which doesn't support APOP. Is this possible?
thanks,
Raj
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 15:44:35 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: can user/pass and apop coexist?
On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Raj Singh wrote:
> I'm using qpopper with APOP, but for various reasons I'd like to
> allow a few selected users to use Netscape Communicator's mail reader,
> which doesn't support APOP. Is this possible?
Yes, it's the standard mode of operation.
Users have user/pass access unless they're in the apop database. Once
they go into the database, they have to use apop.
AB
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 15:46:09 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Bulletin database errors
Does anyone know how to reduce the incidence of this happening?
Mar 5 15:42:40 mailhost in.qpop3d[29557]: user at foo dot host -ERR Unable to
open Bulletin database, contact your administrator
Qpopper 2.53, -DBULLDB.
It only happens when 2 people pop simultaneously, but that's been
happening more and more frequently recently.
AB
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 10:15:59 +0000
From: "Surinder S. Dio" <S.S.Dio at greenwich.ac dot uk>
Subject: Re: configuring for mailspool in ~/.Mailbox
Hi,
many thx for the diff - I'll have a bash at it straight away.
Much appreciated.
All the best
shin
Chris Marble wrote:
<much useful stuff deleted to save bandwidth>
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 11:06:51 +0000
From: "Surinder S. Dio" <S.S.Dio at greenwich.ac dot uk>
Subject: Re: configuring for mailspool in ~/.Mailbox
Hi,
now that I look at I'm a little confused. Didnt you have to define a HOMEDIRMAIL somewhere and make any changes to pop_dropcopy.c .I
maybe being stupid (not unheard of :-) but I cant see how just these changes to the makefile are defining ~/.Mailbox.
thx for any further guidance.
rgds
shin
Chris Marble wrote:
> Surinder S. Dio wrote:
> >
> > I'm trying to compile up 2.53 for use on a pop server. All user mail is
> > delivered to users homedirs in unix format to a file called .Mailbox (ie
> > ~/.Mailbox) I have read and re-read the install docs and can really determine
> > what it is I need to change in pop_dropcopy.c.
> >
> > I've tried changing the reference in getpath() to /home/%s/.Mailbox and also
> > ~/.Mailbox and tried defining a HOMEDIRMAIL variable in popper.h
>
> I installed 2.53 on Sun Solaris 2.6 with mail delivered to ~/.mail
> Comparing Makefile to Makefile.in shows these differences:
>
> diff Makefile Makefile.in
> 1d0
> < # Generated automatically from Makefile.in by configure.
> 26c25
> < CC = gcc
> ---
> > CC = @CC@
> 32,39c31,39
> < srcdir = .
> < CFLAGS = -g -O2 -fstrength-reduce -fpcc-struct-return
> < DEFS = -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
> < O_DEFS = -DSOLARIS2 -DAUTH -DGNU_PASS -DNO_GETLINE -DCONTENT_LENGTH=1 -DHOMEDIRMAIL -DBULLDB -DCHECK_SHELL
> < prefix = /usr/local
> < exec_prefix = ${prefix}
> < TARGET = popper
> < INSTALLDIR = ${exec_prefix}/bin
> ---
> > srcdir = @srcdir@
> > VPATH = ${srcdir}
> > CFLAGS = @CFLAGS@
> > DEFS = @DEFS@
> > O_DEFS = @O_DEFS@
> > prefix = @prefix@
> > exec_prefix = @exec_prefix@
> > TARGET = @TARGET@
> > INSTALLDIR = @bindir@
> 42,46c42,46
> < MANDIR = ${prefix}/man/cat8
> < NETWORK_LIBS = -lnsl -lsocket -lresolv -lmail
> < KERBEROS_LIBS = -lkrb
> < DBM_LIBS =
> < LIBS = -lnsl -lsocket -lresolv -lmail -lkrb -lcrypt
> ---
> > MANDIR = @mandir@/cat8
> > NETWORK_LIBS = @NETWORK_LIBS@
> > KERBEROS_LIBS = @KERBEROS_LIBS@
> > DBM_LIBS = @DBM_LIBS@
> > LIBS = @NETWORK_LIBS@ @KERBEROS_LIBS@ @DBM_LIBS@ @LIBS@
> --
> Chris_Marble at hmc dot edu - HMC UNIX & Information Systems Manager
> My opinions are my own and probably don't represent anything anyway.
Subject: Re: configuring for mailspool in ~/.Mailbox
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 08:07:55 -0500 (EST)
From: jtm at shore dot net
I think I actually figured this one out.
I installed qpopper 2.53 on Solaris 7 where mail is
delivered to ~/.mail. I believe that the only required
change is in the Makefile.
Change
DEFS = -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
to
DEFS = -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DHOMEDIRMAIL
--
_________________________________________________________
John jtm at shore dot net
Surinder S. Dio wrote .....
-> Hi,
->
-> now that I look at I'm a little confused. Didnt you have to define a HOMEDIRMAIL somewhere and make any changes to pop_dropcopy.c .I
-> maybe being stupid (not unheard of :-) but I cant see how just these changes to the makefile are defining ~/.Mailbox.
->
-> thx for any further guidance.
-> rgds
-> shin
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 11:35:58 -0500
From: "Tabor J. Wells" <twells at shore dot net>
Subject: Re: can user/pass and apop coexist?
On Fri, Mar 05, 1999 at 03:44:35PM +1300,
Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz> is thought to have said:
> On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Raj Singh wrote:
>
> > I'm using qpopper with APOP, but for various reasons I'd like to
> > allow a few selected users to use Netscape Communicator's mail reader,
> > which doesn't support APOP. Is this possible?
>
> Yes, it's the standard mode of operation.
>
> Users have user/pass access unless they're in the apop database. Once
> they go into the database, they have to use apop.
>
> AB
This leads into a question that I've been wondering about. How do people
manage their APOP databases so that the MD5 passwords and UNIX crypted
passwords stay in synch?
Tabor
--
___________________________________________________________________________
Tabor J. Wells twells at shore dot net
Systems Administration Manager Just another victim of the ambient morality
Shore.Net -- High quality Internet access and hosting services since 1993
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 06:16:31 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: can user/pass and apop coexist?
On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Tabor J. Wells wrote:
> > Users have user/pass access unless they're in the apop database. Once
> > they go into the database, they have to use apop.
>
> This leads into a question that I've been wondering about. How do people
> manage their APOP databases so that the MD5 passwords and UNIX crypted
> passwords stay in synch?
They don't. As far as I've been able to determine, the idea is to allow
differing login/apop passwords.
What would be useful, given APOP is using MD5, is to allow APOP against
MD5 unix passwd crypts.
MD5 is rapidly becoming the new standard now that it's been proved yet
again that 56 bits can be cracked in less than a day by a determined
enough group (not to mention that the entire set of 1-8 character
passwords fits in less than 4Gb of disk space).
AB
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 17:45:33 +0000
From: "Surinder S. Dio" <S.S.Dio at greenwich.ac dot uk>
Subject: Re: configuring for mailspool in ~/.Mailbox
hi,
thx for this ..this worked jsut fine. I made the amendment to DEFS and
changed the reference in pop_dropcopy.c from .mail to .Mailbox
Thx all those who replied
Shin
At 08:07 05/03/99 -0500, you wrote:
>I think I actually figured this one out.
>
>I installed qpopper 2.53 on Solaris 7 where mail is
>delivered to ~/.mail. I believe that the only required
>change is in the Makefile.
>
>Change
> DEFS = -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
>to
> DEFS = -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DHOMEDIRMAIL
>
>--
>_________________________________________________________
>John jtm at shore dot net
>
>Surinder S. Dio wrote .....
>-> Hi,
>->
>-> now that I look at I'm a little confused. Didnt you have to define a
HOMEDIRMAIL somewhere and make any changes to pop_dropcopy.c .I
>-> maybe being stupid (not unheard of :-) but I cant see how just these
changes to the makefile are defining ~/.Mailbox.
>->
>-> thx for any further guidance.
>-> rgds
>-> shin
>
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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 15:45:52 -0500
From: Raj Singh <rs at syncline dot com>
Subject: Re: can user/pass and apop coexist?
I've read all the documentation I can find, but still can't figure out
what's going wrong. I deleted a user from the apop database with
popauth -delete <username>
which should enable them to use user/pass access, right?
Where does qpopper look for the password now? Is it the the password
in /etc/passwd?
thanks,
Raj
At 03:44 PM 3/5/99 +1300, AB wrote:
>Yes, it's the standard mode of operation.
>
>Users have user/pass access unless they're in the apop database. Once
>they go into the database, they have to use apop.
>On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, I wrote:
>
>> I'm using qpopper with APOP, but for various reasons I'd like to
>> allow a few selected users to use Netscape Communicator's mail reader,
>> which doesn't support APOP. Is this possible?
From: info at edoc.co dot za
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 13:42:08 +0200
Subject: Cannot init popauth
Hi,
I'm having trouble to do a popauth -init.
I'm getting the following error: ./popauth: /etc/pop.auth.dir: unable
to open POP authorization DB
I checked the rights - they are as per manual.
I'm running Redhat5.2 linux.
I saw on the archives that this problem was encountered earlier. I
could not find the solution there because of a very slow connection
to the site. (possibly between South Africa and The USA)
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks
Nico
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 09:28:20 -0500
From: Brad Groshok <bgroshok at odyssey.on dot ca>
Subject: Re: v2.53 vs v3bxxx
At 03:21 PM 3/4/99 +0100, you wrote:
>>
>> Is v3bxxx stable enough to use in a production environment for a mid-sized
>> ISP (several thousand users)?
>>
>> Philip
>
>we are running a system here with appx 20.000 users, 3.014b is
>very stable, never fails.
>
>Rgds, Erik
I tried running 3.0B14 (Solaris 7/Sparc/10,000 users) and ran into problems
with customers that run Microsoft Internet mail. Problem was if anybody
sent that user an attachment, the attachment seemed to be downloaded by
Internet Mail, but no message or attachment was to be found when d-load was
complete.
I have since gone back to Version 2.53.
Anybody else seen this problem?
_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
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_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
From: "wayne forrest" <waynef at cashbank.co dot za>
Subject: RE: Cannot init popauth
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 16:15:07 +0200
Sorry but i dont use popauth ,, never experimented with it ... i also run
RH5.2 though
-----Original Message-----
From: info at edoc.co.za [mailto:info at edoc dot co dot za]
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 1999 1:42 PM
To: Subscribers of Qpopper
Subject: Cannot init popauth
Hi,
I'm having trouble to do a popauth -init.
I'm getting the following error: ./popauth: /etc/pop.auth.dir: unable
to open POP authorization DB
I checked the rights - they are as per manual.
I'm running Redhat5.2 linux.
I saw on the archives that this problem was encountered earlier. I
could not find the solution there because of a very slow connection
to the site. (possibly between South Africa and The USA)
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks
Nico
From: "Brett Lucey" <brettl at splusnet dot com>
Subject: QPopper with IU IMAP
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:48:43 -0500
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We run a mail server on Linux. Because of the need to store mail =
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that arises from this is that it seems to LOVE to insert a message =
saying "DO NOT DELETE" at the beginning of the spool file. Is there a =
patch for QPopper which will cause it to ignore this message? I wrote a =
small hack which seems to do the trick, but only some of the time. Any =
help would be greatly appreciated..
Thanks,
Brett
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From: pashah at spb.sitek dot net
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 02:04:02 +0300
Subject: Re: v2.53 vs v3bxxx
One of our users reported similar problem - I wasn`t been able to replicate
it.
linux/i386
On Thu, Mar 11, 1999 at 09:28:20AM -0500, Brad Groshok wrote:
> I tried running 3.0B14 (Solaris 7/Sparc/10,000 users) and ran into problems
> with customers that run Microsoft Internet mail. Problem was if anybody
> sent that user an attachment, the attachment seemed to be downloaded by
> Internet Mail, but no message or attachment was to be found when d-load was
> complete.
> I have since gone back to Version 2.53.
> Anybody else seen this problem?
--
http://www.spb.sitek.net/~pashah/public-key-0x97739141.pgp
From: "Evan Erwin" <obiwan at frag dot com>
Subject: RE: Cannot init popauth
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 18:16:02 -0500
Unless you are using APOP, you don't need the popauth database. I
encountered this problem, and tried for two weeks until I realized I didn't
need it (qpopper uses the /etc/passwd file by default). I also hacked my way
into getting qpopper to work. Redhat wanted to use ipop3d instead of qpopper
(though I followed the install instructions exactly and also referenced
Redhat Linux Unleashed), so I just renamed /usr/sbin/in.qpopper to
/usr/sbin/ipop3d. It works, I know it's a bit archaic, but still. Anyways,
good luck on this problem. I never got it to work either...
Note: if anyone has any suggestions as to how to get that hack
(in.qpopper -> ipop3d) um.. "officially" correct, it would be appreciated. I
run a small bank email server, about 40 users, so downtime isn't the most
heinous thing in the world
Thanks
Obiwan
-----Original Message-----
From: info at edoc.co.za [mailto:info at edoc dot co dot za]
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 1999 6:42 AM
To: Subscribers of Qpopper
Subject: Cannot init popauth
Hi,
I'm having trouble to do a popauth -init.
I'm getting the following error: ./popauth: /etc/pop.auth.dir: unable
to open POP authorization DB
I checked the rights - they are as per manual.
I'm running Redhat5.2 linux.
I saw on the archives that this problem was encountered earlier. I
could not find the solution there because of a very slow connection
to the site. (possibly between South Africa and The USA)
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks
Nico
From: "Nickolas Ray Ellson" <grimm at nickellson dot com>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 15:50:35 -0800
Subject: can't open popauth DB
I was looking through the archives and found at least one match on
the problem I am having with Qpopper2.53 and RH5.1 Linux.
First, I noticed that I had to use "pop" as my controlling user, it
seems hardcoded somewhere even though it says I can pick whatever I
want.
Second, after a successfull popauth -init I can't change any of the
passwords for the users. "can't open popauth DB" just like a few
others were getting.
Third, and I am assuming this depends on #2. I can't get Qpopper to
accepth a user login, it always says the password is wrong.
I added -DAUTHFILE=\"/etc/qpop.authfile\" with the idea that if that
file contained single user names ONLY those users would even be
allowed any sort of POP3 access. My file has just my normal user name
in it on a line by itself. I also ran
configure --enable-apop=/etc/qpop.auth --with-popuid=pop
to enable APOP passwords. The mailer I test with is Pegasus 3.01d
using the APOP SHARED SECRET.
(This was the line that wouldn't work if I used anything other than
"pop")
Have I done something idiotic? Or is this a know issue?
Nick
--
Seek first to understand, then to be understood.
Nick :) <grimm at nickellson dot com>
ICQ# 940982 (http://www.nickellson.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 19:50:47 -0800
From: Bill Riner <briner at lituus dot net>
Subject: (no subject)
unsubscribe
From: info at edoc.co dot za
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:18:42 +0200
Subject: RE: Cannot init popauth
Hi,
I have to use APOP for security reasons. Normal POP passwords
are send as clear text. APOP passwords are encrypted.
Regards
Nico
> Unless you are using APOP, you don't need the popauth database. I
> encountered this problem, and tried for two weeks until I realized I
> didn't need it (qpopper uses the /etc/passwd file by default). I also
> hacked my way into getting qpopper to work. Redhat wanted to use ipop3d
> instead of qpopper (though I followed the install instructions exactly and
> also referenced Redhat Linux Unleashed), so I just renamed
> /usr/sbin/in.qpopper to /usr/sbin/ipop3d. It works, I know it's a bit
> archaic, but still. Anyways, good luck on this problem. I never got it to
> work either...
>
> Note: if anyone has any suggestions as to how to get that hack
> (in.qpopper -> ipop3d) um.. "officially" correct, it would be appreciated.
> I run a small bank email server, about 40 users, so downtime isn't the
> most heinous thing in the world
>
> Thanks
>
> Obiwan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: info at edoc.co.za [mailto:info at edoc dot co dot za]
> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 1999 6:42 AM
> To: Subscribers of Qpopper
> Subject: Cannot init popauth
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm having trouble to do a popauth -init.
>
> I'm getting the following error: ./popauth: /etc/pop.auth.dir: unable to
> open POP authorization DB
>
> I checked the rights - they are as per manual.
>
> I'm running Redhat5.2 linux.
>
> I saw on the archives that this problem was encountered earlier. I
> could not find the solution there because of a very slow connection
> to the site. (possibly between South Africa and The USA)
>
> Any help will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Nico
>
From: "wayne forrest" <waynef at cashbank.co dot za>
Subject: RE: QPopper with IU IMAP
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:39:40 +0200
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What is that message for "Do not Delete....""" ?
I have also noticed it ... and only goes to new email users ?
Another Question " Canonical name's is there perhaps a way that you can turn
off that
message in version 2.54 ,,"
I know 3.??? you can turn it off ,,, but it is beta ,,, maybe they can port
that feature back to the stable version.
Love to here an Aswer :)
-----Original Message-----
From: Brett Lucey [mailto:brettl at splusnet dot com]
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 1999 5:49 PM
To: Subscribers of Qpopper
Subject: QPopper with IU IMAP
Hi...
We run a mail server on Linux. Because of the need to store mail
(organized) remotely, we run the IU IMAP server, rev 4.1. The problem that
arises from this is that it seems to LOVE to insert a message saying "DO NOT
DELETE" at the beginning of the spool file. Is there a patch for QPopper
which will cause it to ignore this message? I wrote a small hack which
seems to do the trick, but only some of the time. Any help would be greatly
appreciated..
Thanks,
Brett
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<DIV><SPAN class=696273610-12031999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial =
size=2>What
is that message for "Do not Delete...."""
?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=696273610-12031999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial =
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=696273610-12031999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial =
size=2>I have
also noticed it ... and only goes to new email users =
?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=696273610-12031999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial =
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=696273610-12031999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial =
size=2>Another Question " Canonical name's is there perhaps a way =
that you
can turn off that </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=696273610-12031999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial =
size=2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=696273610-12031999><FONT =
color=#0000ff
face=Arial size=2>message in version 2.54 =
,,"</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=696273610-12031999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial =
size=2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=696273610-12031999><FONT =
color=#0000ff
face=Arial size=2>I know 3.??? you can turn it off ,,, but it is =
beta ,,, maybe
they can port that feature back to the stable =
version.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=696273610-12031999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial =
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=696273610-12031999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial =
size=2>Love
to here an Aswer :)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=696273610-12031999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial =
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Brett Lucey
[mailto:brettl at splusnet dot com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 11, =
1999 5:49
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Subscribers of Qpopper<BR><B>Subject:</B> QPopper =
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IMAP<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2>Hi...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2> =
<FONT
color=#000000>We run a mail server on Linux. Because of the =
need to
store mail (organized) remotely, we run the IU IMAP server, rev =
4.1.
The problem that arises from this is that it seems to LOVE to insert =
a
message saying "DO NOT DELETE" at the beginning of the =
spool
file. Is there a patch for QPopper which will cause it to =
ignore this
message? I wrote a small hack which seems to do the trick, but =
only
some of the time. Any help would be greatly
appreciated..</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2><FONT
color=#000000></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2><FONT
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Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 00:56:32 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: can't open popauth DB
On Thu, 11 Mar 1999, Nickolas Ray Ellson wrote:
> First, I noticed that I had to use "pop" as my controlling user, it
> seems hardcoded somewhere even though it says I can pick whatever I
> want.
Not quite true.
The popauth database has to be owned by whatever user popauth is owned
by and popauth has to be set suid
> Second, after a successfull popauth -init I can't change any of the
> passwords for the users. "can't open popauth DB" just like a few
> others were getting.
Check that popauth is suid. (chmod 4755)
AB
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 01:21:11 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: RE: QPopper with IU IMAP
On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, wayne forrest wrote:
> What is that message for "Do not Delete....""" ?
It's for imap/pine placekeeping and is used to calculate last read
messages, etc.
> I have also noticed it ... and only goes to new email users ?
It's added to the mailbox the first time it's accessed with imap or
using Pine in a shell session.
AB
From: info at edoc.co dot za
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 14:51:25 +0200
Subject: Re: can't open popauth DB
Hi,
I'm running Redhat 5.2 Linux and tried to install qpopper 2.53 with
APOP authentication.
When I tried to do a popauth -init, I got ./popauth: error setting
ownership of POP authorization DB: No such file or directory
A file pop.auth.db was created in /etc/ with rights to root.
It seems as if the newest 3.0b14 version has solved these kind of
problems if I read the doc.
How stabel is v3.0b14? I need to run a low traffic server. (less than
1000 logins per day)
Due to sniffers in the environment, I need to use APOP.
Thanks
Nico
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:46:43 -0500 (EST)
From: James E Gaynor <gaynor at ee.eng.ohio-state dot edu>
Subject: RE: QPopper with IU IMAP
On Sat, 13 Mar 1999, Alan Brown wrote:
> > I have also noticed it ... and only goes to new email users ?
>
> It's added to the mailbox the first time it's accessed with imap or
> using Pine in a shell session.
And it'll be recreated if it's removed. Netscape Communicator also adds it
to mail spools (but I have my issues in regards to how they do things).
In any case, you can disable the message in Pine 4.05 and higher; it's in
the settings.
-jg
--
Jim Gaynor - gaynor.4 at osu dot edu
http://eewww.eng.ohio-state.edu/~gaynor
System Administrator - OSU Electrical Engineering
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 03:28:27 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: RE: QPopper with IU IMAP
On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, James E Gaynor wrote:
> In any case, you can disable the message in Pine 4.05 and higher; it's in
> the settings.
I've missed that. What's the setting name?
AB
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 09:40:30 -0500 (EST)
From: James E Gaynor <gaynor at ee.eng.ohio-state dot edu>
Subject: RE: QPopper with IU IMAP
On Sat, 13 Mar 1999, Alan Brown wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, James E Gaynor wrote:
>
> > In any case, you can disable the message in Pine 4.05 and higher; it's in
> > the settings.
>
> I've missed that. What's the setting name?
"quell-folder-internal-msg"
-jg
--
Jim Gaynor - gaynor.4 at osu dot edu
http://eewww.eng.ohio-state.edu/~gaynor
System Administrator - OSU Electrical Engineering
From: "Nickolas Ray Ellson" <grimm at nickellson dot com>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:05:50 -0800
Subject: Re: can't open popauth DB
> > First, I noticed that I had to use "pop" as my controlling user, it
> > seems hardcoded somewhere even though it says I can pick whatever I
> > want.
>
> Not quite true.
>
> The popauth database has to be owned by whatever user popauth is owned by
> and popauth has to be set suid
I did the direction steps to "chown qpop popauth" and "chmod u+s
popauth" wasn't that what should have done it?
> > Second, after a successfull popauth -init I can't change any of the
> > passwords for the users. "can't open popauth DB" just like a few others
> > were getting.
>
> Check that popauth is suid. (chmod 4755)
Yep, checked and doubled checked:
-rwsr-xr-x 1 pop root 20078 Mar 11 14:42 popauth
No workey.
I also tried setting up the new 3.x beta (mentioned something about
fixing this problem on certain systems), but the compile fails to
build the popauth program.
Anything else I can check or give you as info? :) This is not mission
critical for me, so I can try just about anything.
Nick
PS: Thank you for your suggestions so far. :)
--
Seek first to understand, then to be understood.
Nick :) <grimm at nickellson dot com>
ICQ# 940982 (http://www.nickellson.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 05:36:44 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: can't open popauth DB
On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Nickolas Ray Ellson wrote:
> Yep, checked and doubled checked:
>
> -rwsr-xr-x 1 pop root 20078 Mar 11 14:42 popauth
>
What's ownership/permissions on the pop.auth database?
AB
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:02:40 -0500 (EST)
From: Brett Lucey <brettl at splusnet dot com>
Subject: RE: QPopper with IU IMAP
Does this setting prevent the creation of the message, or just the display
of it?
-Brett
On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, James E Gaynor wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Mar 1999, Alan Brown wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, James E Gaynor wrote:
> >
> > > In any case, you can disable the message in Pine 4.05 and higher; it's in
> > > the settings.
> >
> > I've missed that. What's the setting name?
>
> "quell-folder-internal-msg"
>
> -jg
>
> --
> Jim Gaynor - gaynor.4 at osu dot edu
> http://eewww.eng.ohio-state.edu/~gaynor
> System Administrator - OSU Electrical Engineering
>
From: "Eugenio Garrido" <eugenio at buscanet dot com>
Subject:
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 18:21:47 +0100
unsubscribe
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:57:13 -0500 (EST)
From: James E Gaynor <gaynor at ee.eng.ohio-state dot edu>
Subject: RE: QPopper with IU IMAP
Creation.
-jg
On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Brett Lucey wrote:
> Does this setting prevent the creation of the message, or just the display
> of it?
>
> -Brett
>
> On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, James E Gaynor wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 13 Mar 1999, Alan Brown wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, James E Gaynor wrote:
> > >
> > > > In any case, you can disable the message in Pine 4.05 and higher; it's in
> > > > the settings.
> > >
> > > I've missed that. What's the setting name?
> >
> > "quell-folder-internal-msg"
> >
> > -jg
> >
> > --
> > Jim Gaynor - gaynor.4 at osu dot edu
> > http://eewww.eng.ohio-state.edu/~gaynor
> > System Administrator - OSU Electrical Engineering
> >
>
>
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http://eewww.eng.ohio-state.edu/~gaynor
System Administrator - OSU Electrical Engineering
From: "Nickolas Ray Ellson" <grimm at nickellson dot com>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:42:23 -0800
Subject: Re: can't open popauth DB
> > Yep, checked and doubled checked:
> >
> > -rwsr-xr-x 1 pop root 20078 Mar 11 14:42 popauth
> >
>
> What's ownership/permissions on the pop.auth database?
-rw------- 1 pop pop 1536 Mar 11 14:56 qpop.auth
I didn't change it from how it was set with popauth -init
--
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From: info at edoc.co dot za
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 15:50:32 +0200
Subject: Errors compiling qpopper3.0b13
Hi,
I'm trying to compile qpopper3.0b13 o Redhat Linux.
I'm getting the error below.
I've downloaded the file again just in case .... and had got the same
problem.
I configured for compiling APOP as per example in the INSTALL
notes. I assume I hit a bug. If the bugkillers need more info,
please contact me.
Reagrds
Nico
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/nico/qpopper3.0/mmangle'
gcc flock.o pop_dele.o pop_dropcopy.o pop_get_command.o
pop_get_subcommand.o pop_init.o pop_last.o pop_list.o pop_log.o
pop_lower.o pop_msg.o pop_parse.o pop_pass.o pop_quit.o
pop_rset.o pop_send.o pop_stat.o pop_updt.o pop_user.o
pop_xtnd.o pop_xmit.o popper.o pop_bull.o xtnd_xlst.o pop_uidl.o
mktemp.o pop_rpop.o pop_apop.o md5.o pop_auth.o pop_pope.o
pop_extend.o scram.o hmac.o base64.o pop_util.o -o popper -
lresolv -lndbm -lcrypt ../mmangle/libmangle.a
gcc -o popauth flock.o base64.o scram.o md5.o hmac.o popauth.o
-lresolv -lndbm
popauth.o: file not recognized: File format not recognized
make[1]: *** [popauth] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/nico/qpopper3.0/popper'
make: *** [popper_server] Error 2
From: "Nickolas Ray Ellson" <grimm at nickellson dot com>
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 11:23:58 -0800
Subject: Re: Errors compiling qpopper3.0b13
Exact same problem here on Redhat 5.1 system. Compiling for APOP as
well.
Nick
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to compile qpopper3.0b13 o Redhat Linux.
>
> I'm getting the error below.
>
> I've downloaded the file again just in case .... and had got the same
> problem.
>
> I configured for compiling APOP as per example in the INSTALL
> notes. I assume I hit a bug. If the bugkillers need more info,
> please contact me.
>
> Reagrds
> Nico
>
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/nico/qpopper3.0/mmangle'
> gcc flock.o pop_dele.o pop_dropcopy.o pop_get_command.o
> pop_get_subcommand.o pop_init.o pop_last.o pop_list.o pop_log.o
> pop_lower.o pop_msg.o pop_parse.o pop_pass.o pop_quit.o
> pop_rset.o pop_send.o pop_stat.o pop_updt.o pop_user.o
> pop_xtnd.o pop_xmit.o popper.o pop_bull.o xtnd_xlst.o pop_uidl.o
> mktemp.o pop_rpop.o pop_apop.o md5.o pop_auth.o pop_pope.o
> pop_extend.o scram.o hmac.o base64.o pop_util.o -o popper -
> lresolv -lndbm -lcrypt ../mmangle/libmangle.a
> gcc -o popauth flock.o base64.o scram.o md5.o hmac.o popauth.o
> -lresolv -lndbm
> popauth.o: file not recognized: File format not recognized
> make[1]: *** [popauth] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/nico/qpopper3.0/popper'
> make: *** [popper_server] Error 2
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Home: http://www.nickellson.com
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 20:34:57 +0100
From: Ralf Folkerts <folkerts at ibm dot net>
Subject: Re: Errors compiling qpopper3.0b13
Hi Nick,
I had the same Problem :-(((
For me it helped to remove the "popauth.o" File in the popper-Directory
(in your case: /home/nico/qpopper3.0/popper/popauth.o, then ran a
complete ./configure and make again!
Seems the file became corrupt somehow...
You should gibe it a try .-)
_ralf_
Nickolas Ray Ellson wrote:
>
> Exact same problem here on Redhat 5.1 system. Compiling for APOP as
> well.
>
> Nick
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm trying to compile qpopper3.0b13 o Redhat Linux.
> >
> > I'm getting the error below.
> >
> > I've downloaded the file again just in case .... and had got the same
> > problem.
> >
> > I configured for compiling APOP as per example in the INSTALL
> > notes. I assume I hit a bug. If the bugkillers need more info,
> > please contact me.
> >
> > Reagrds
> > Nico
> >
> > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/nico/qpopper3.0/mmangle'
> > gcc flock.o pop_dele.o pop_dropcopy.o pop_get_command.o
> > pop_get_subcommand.o pop_init.o pop_last.o pop_list.o pop_log.o
> > pop_lower.o pop_msg.o pop_parse.o pop_pass.o pop_quit.o
> > pop_rset.o pop_send.o pop_stat.o pop_updt.o pop_user.o
> > pop_xtnd.o pop_xmit.o popper.o pop_bull.o xtnd_xlst.o pop_uidl.o
> > mktemp.o pop_rpop.o pop_apop.o md5.o pop_auth.o pop_pope.o
> > pop_extend.o scram.o hmac.o base64.o pop_util.o -o popper -
> > lresolv -lndbm -lcrypt ../mmangle/libmangle.a
> > gcc -o popauth flock.o base64.o scram.o md5.o hmac.o popauth.o
> > -lresolv -lndbm
> > popauth.o: file not recognized: File format not recognized
> > make[1]: *** [popauth] Error 1
> > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/nico/qpopper3.0/popper'
> > make: *** [popper_server] Error 2
>
> --
> "Seek first to understand, then be understood"
>
> Nick :) E-Mail: grimm at nickellson dot com ICQ: 940982
> Home: http://www.nickellson.com
>
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 20:52:06 +0100
From: Ralf Folkerts <folkerts at ibm dot net>
Subject: Which Clients do support APOP?
Hi,
I just installed qpopper 3.0b14 because we found that Users have a
"tcpdump" like tool on NT that allows to track all POP3-Plaintext
Password :-((
So, we think it´s time for a more secure authentication Method on the
Mailserver -- found the qpopper and installed (first the latest 2.n
version, that had Problems in accessing the Database when adding a User
- then the current b14 of the 3.0).
Unfortuntely it seems that both Netscape and "kmail" (the KDE
Mail-Client) don´t support APOP Authentication.
My "question of the day": What E-Mail clients *do* support APOP
Authentication? Outlook 97 Outlook 98? Outlook Express? What about a
Linux E-Mail Client for APOP Auth?
Thanks for any hints in advance!
_ralf_
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 16:49:35 -0600 (CST)
From: Dion Almaer <dion at medservelink dot com>
Subject: Re: Which Clients do support APOP?
One thing that we have done is used SSH port forwarding to keep all
transactions enccrypted. I am also thinking about linking in SSLeay into
qpopper.
Dion
On Sat, 13 Mar 1999, Ralf Folkerts wrote:
=2E Hi,
=2E
=2E I just installed qpopper 3.0b14 because we found that Users have a
=2E "tcpdump" like tool on NT that allows to track all POP3-Plaintext
=2E Password :-((
=2E
=2E So, we think it´s time for a more secure authentication Method on the
=2E Mailserver -- found the qpopper and installed (first the latest 2.n
=2E version, that had Problems in accessing the Database when adding a User
=2E - then the current b14 of the 3.0).
=2E
=2E Unfortuntely it seems that both Netscape and "kmail" (the KDE
=2E Mail-Client) don´t support APOP Authentication.
=2E
=2E My "question of the day": What E-Mail clients *do* support APOP
=2E Authentication? Outlook 97 Outlook 98? Outlook Express? What about a
=2E Linux E-Mail Client for APOP Auth?
=2E
=2E Thanks for any hints in advance!
=2E
=2E _ralf_
=2E
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