The qpopper list archive ending on 25 Apr 2000


Topics covered in this issue include:

  1. popper processes hanging
       Damon Harper <damon at ihermes dot com>
       Wed, 12 Apr 2000 12:01:49 -0700 (PDT)
  2. RE: Removing old email (was: Re: em utility?).
       "Michael D. Sofka" <sofkam at rpi dot edu>
       Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:08:17 -0400
  3. Re: Removing old email (was: Re: em utility?).
       Derrick MacPherson <derrick at mercuryfilmworks dot com>
       Wed, 12 Apr 2000 13:02:29 -0700
  4. RE: Removing old email (was: Re: em utility?).
       Edward Concilio <econcilio at goamerica dot net>
       Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:12:49 -0400
  5. Re: qpopper stalling
       Leonard Hermens <Leonard.Hermens at rcity dot com>
       Wed, 12 Apr 2000 13:19:37 -0700
  6. Re: Removing old email (was: Re: em utility?).
       "Michael D. Sofka" <sofkam at rpi dot edu>
       Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:20:50 -0400
  7. Re: popper processes hanging
       "Michael D. Sofka" <sofkam at rpi dot edu>
       Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:27:23 -0400
  8. 
       Davi Kleine Klock <Davi.Klock at inepar.com dot br>
       Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:30:14 -0300
  9. Re: Removing old email (was: Re: em utility?).
       Derrick MacPherson <derrick at mercuryfilmworks dot com>
       Wed, 12 Apr 2000 13:35:24 -0700
 10. Re: qpopper stalling
       Greg Hiscott <gjh at keyconnect dot com>
       Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:01:51 -0700
 11. Re: SOLVED(1): mailboxes getting duplicated
       "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
       Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:07:27 -0700
 12. Re: SOLVED(1): mailboxes getting duplicated
       Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
       Wed, 12 Apr 2000 20:38:00 -0700
 13. Re: Removing old email (was: Re: em utility?).
       "Michael D. Sofka" <sofkam at rpi dot edu>
       Thu, 13 Apr 2000 12:01:17 -0400
 14. Re: your mail
       Admin Mailing Lists <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
       Thu, 13 Apr 2000 12:08:51 -0400 (EDT)
 15. Limiting the number of qpoppers
       Dan Scoggins <dan.scoggins at gsfc.nasa dot gov>
       Thu, 13 Apr 2000 13:57:52 -0400
 16. Re: SOLVED(1): mailboxes getting duplicated
       "Lisa Casey" <lisa at jellico dot com>
       Fri, 14 Apr 2000 15:57:41 -0400
 17. Re: SOLVED(1): mailboxes getting duplicated
       "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
       Thu, 13 Apr 2000 14:22:38 -0700
 18. Qpopper 3.0 (final) available
       Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
       Fri, 14 Apr 2000 20:11:36 -0700
 19. Re: Limiting the number of qpoppers
       Forrest Aldrich <forrie at forrie dot com>
       Sun, 16 Apr 2000 16:36:27 -0400
 20. Unable to obtain socket and address of client, err = 107
       "Jerry O'Brien" <jobrien at cuttingedge dot net>
       Sun, 16 Apr 2000 15:16:34 -0700
 21. Qpopper 3 & Hashmailspool 2
       Kevin Dabson <kevin at dnc-electronics dot com>
       Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:35:42 +0000 (GMT)
 22. Re: Qpopper 3 & Hashmailspool 2
       Derrick MacPherson <derrick at mercuryfilmworks dot com>
       Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:26:24 -0700
 23. Re: Unable to obtain socket and address of client, err = 107
       Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
       Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:48:14 -0700
 24. 3.0 & IRIX/GCC
       Ricardo Kustner <ricardo at rixhq dot nu>
       Tue, 18 Apr 2000 00:09:08 +0200
 25. running standalone
       Chris Snell <chris at bikeworld dot com>
       Mon, 17 Apr 2000 19:39:06 -0500
 26. RE: running standalone
       "John W. Keener" <jkeener at utsi dot com>
       Wed, 19 Apr 2000 12:11:22 -0500
 27. Re: !( SOLVED(1)): mailboxes getting duplicated
       Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
       Wed, 19 Apr 2000 16:45:57 -0400
 28. compiling qpopper 3.0 final under SCO
       chris loelke <chris at okanagan dot net>
       Wed, 19 Apr 2000 14:09:22 -0700
 29. RE: compiling qpopper 3.0 final under SCO
       "Aaron Chipper" <aaron at cpc.net dot au>
       Thu, 20 Apr 2000 09:51:14 +1000
 30. Is it a bug of  "--enable-bulldb" in  qpopper3.xx? when does the qpopper support the Maildir message?
       "NightHawk" <NightHawk at szonline dot net>
       Thu, 20 Apr 2000 09:42:40 +0800
 31. qpopper 2.53
       <jmcintyr at i-plus dot net>
       Thu, 20 Apr 2000 09:21:31 -0400 (EDT)
 32. compiling popper-3.0 on SunOS
         Bruce Wm Folliott <bruce at cs.ualberta dot ca>
         Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:12:52 -0600 (MDT)
 33. Re: compiling popper-3.0 on SunOS
       Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
       Thu, 20 Apr 2000 10:58:05 -0700
 34. MailBox Duplicated - Qpopper3.0/Server Mode
       Butch Kemper <kemper at tstar dot net>
       Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:04:46 -0500
 35. Qpopper 3.0.1b1 available
       Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
       Fri, 21 Apr 2000 18:17:43 -0700
 36. Re: Qpopper 3.0.1b1 available
       Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
       Fri, 21 Apr 2000 21:29:34 -0400
 37. Re: Qpopper 3.0.1b1 available
       Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
       Fri, 21 Apr 2000 19:51:26 -0700
 38. Re: Qpopper 3.0.1b1 available
       "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
       Fri, 21 Apr 2000 21:30:40 -0700
 39. Re: Qpopper 3.0.1b1 available
       Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
       Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:17:07 -0700
 40. New Anti-Spam Measures
       Listmaster <listmaster at lists.pensive dot org>
       Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:27:03 -0700
 41. Hack attempt!?!
       "Spencer Yost" <yostsw at newidea.atis dot net>
       Sun, 23 Apr 2000 11:20:09 -0400
 42. standalone popper 3
       Kevin Dabson <kevin at dnc-electronics dot com>
       Sun, 23 Apr 2000 18:15:12 +0000 (GMT)
 43. Re: Hack attempt!?!
       Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
       Sun, 23 Apr 2000 12:52:47 -0700
 44. LOG_LOGIN Woes
       Daniel Norton <danorton at chsw dot com>
       Sun, 23 Apr 2000 22:25:55 -0400
 45. Re: LOG_LOGIN Woes
       Daniel Norton <danorton at chsw dot com>
       Mon, 24 Apr 2000 09:15:07 -0400
 46. Re: Qpopper 3.0.1b1 available
       Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
       Mon, 24 Apr 2000 11:34:56 -0400
 47. Re: Qpopper 3.0.1b1 available
       Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
       Mon, 24 Apr 2000 13:07:36 -0400
 48. qpopper 2.5.3
       Karyn McCambridge <karynm at afb dot net>
       Tue, 25 Apr 2000 09:57:15 -0400
 49. Re: qpopper 2.5.3
       "Joseph W. Breu" <breu at cfu dot net>
       Tue, 25 Apr 2000 08:43:17 -0500 (CDT)
 50. Re: qpopper 2.5.3
       Steven Champeon <schampeo at hesketh dot com>
       Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:01:42 -0400 (EDT)

Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 12:01:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Damon Harper <damon at ihermes dot com>
Subject: popper processes hanging

hi there -

we've had a problem here for a while now, using qpopper 2.53 (with
specialauth for shadow passwords).  every so often, popper processes will
begin to accumulate, apparently because they are failing to disconnect
after a QUIT command is sent to the server.

recently it's gotten worse, so we'll have 100-150 popper processes hanging
before they all suddenly let go.

i have a feeling it may be a symptom of a bigger problem, but i thought
i'd ask here and see if anyone else has had a similar symptom and, if so,
what they did to fix it...

the system is running linux 2.2.14, qpopper 2.53 from xinetd; any other
specifics please ask.

thanks

-damon

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Damon Harper                                           damon at ihermes dot com
SysAdmin / Programmer                            http://www.ihermes.com/
Hermes Internet Solutions           Phone: (604) 606-0618  Fax: 606-0619



Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:08:17 -0400
From: "Michael D. Sofka" <sofkam at rpi dot edu>
Subject: RE: Removing old email (was: Re: em utility?).

At 02:54 PM 4/12/00 -0400, Edward Concilio wrote:
>Michael,
>
>I was unable to retrieve the below specified files from ftp.rpi.edu
>either by IE or ftp. User anonymous has restricted access, which excludes
>access to the specified directory.

You have to specify the file, which is why I gave three URL's.

Otherwise, it should work.  I just checked the perms (on the
entire path) and they are correct.

Mike

--
Michael D. Sofka                       sofkam at rpi dot edu
CIS/SSS Sr. Systems Programmer  AFS/DFS, email, listproc, TeX, epistemology.
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.    http://www.rpi.edu/~sofkam/


Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 13:02:29 -0700
From: Derrick MacPherson <derrick at mercuryfilmworks dot com>
Subject: Re: Removing old email (was: Re: em utility?).

Michael needs to grant access..

From the two READMEs there:

RPI no longer supports the anonymous FTP incomming directory.  Individual
users many now permit or depermit (the default) ftp access to their home
volumes.  If you have any questions, see the kiosk article, or write
ftp-maint at rpi dot edu

and

Below is a list of directories available to anonymous users.

>cut<
/home/84/veliaa/public_ftp
/home/86/beyera/public/ftp
/home/86/zehrj/public_html/ftp
/home/92/tehrani/public_ftp



From: Edward Concilio <econcilio at goamerica dot net>
Subject: RE: Removing old email (was: Re: em utility?).
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:12:49 -0400

Michael,

You wrote:
> What is the IP address of the machine you are connecting
> from?  Our ftp server does a reverse and forward lookup before
> allowing a connection.

My IP address is a static IP with reverse in my dns.


You wrote:
> You can also try command line ftp to ftp.rpi.edu, then cd'ing
> to the above directory or get'ing from the full path.
> 

a snip-it from the qpopper list:

Michael needs to grant access..

From the two READMEs there:

RPI no longer supports the anonymous FTP incomming directory.  Individual
users many now permit or depermit (the default) ftp access to their home
volumes.  If you have any questions, see the kiosk article, or write
ftp-maint at rpi dot edu

and

Below is a list of directories available to anonymous users.

>cut<
/home/84/veliaa/public_ftp
/home/86/beyera/public/ftp
/home/86/zehrj/public_html/ftp
/home/92/tehrani/public_ftp


Edward Concilio
GoAmerica Communications Corp.
Senior Systems Admin.
401 Hackensack Ave.
Hackensack, NJ  07601
econcilio at goamerica dot net
econcilio at gomail dot net
http://www.goamerica.net
Tel: (201) 996-1717 x2243
Fax: (201) 996-1772



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael D. Sofka [mailto:sofkam at rpi dot edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 4:06 PM
> To: Edward Concilio
> Subject: RE: Removing old email (was: Re: em utility?).
> 
> 
> At 03:43 PM 4/12/00 -0400, Edward Concilio wrote:
> >Michael,
> >
> >Sorry to beat a horse to death, but, I've tried coping all
> >three URL's, as posted and received the following error
> >on all three URLs each of the many times I've tried:
> >
> >"The page cannot be displayed"
> >
> >  ftp://ftp.rpi.edu/home/89/sofkam/public/preenmail/preenmail.pl
> >  ftp://ftp.rpi.edu/home/89/sofkam/public/preenmail/preenstats.pl
> >  ftp://ftp.rpi.edu/home/89/sofkam/public/preenmail/README
> 
> What is the IP address of the machine you are connecting
> from?  Our ftp server does a reverse and forward lookup before
> allowing a connection.
> 
> You can also try command line ftp to ftp.rpi.edu, then cd'ing
> to the above directory or get'ing from the full path.
> 
> Mike
> 
> --
> Michael D. Sofka                       sofkam at rpi dot edu
> CIS/SSS Sr. Systems Programmer  AFS/DFS, email, listproc, 
> TeX, epistemology.
> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.    
http://www.rpi.edu/~sofkam/

Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 13:19:37 -0700
From: Leonard Hermens <Leonard.Hermens at rcity dot com>
Subject: Re: qpopper stalling

Hi Greg,

Which version of qpopper?

-- Leonard

At 12:00 PM -0700 4/12/00, Greg Hiscott wrote:
>When we receive messages with attachments.  Qpopper stalls for like 30
>seconds and then
>eventually completes sending the files.  Once for each attachment.
>
>Anybody run into this?
>
>Outlook2000 is the client (reported with netscrape as well)
>SOlaris 2.6,2.7 on intel and sparc. is the server
>All sun patches recommended have been installed.
>
>Greg
>
>--
>http://keyconnect.com  V:818.545.0871  F:818.545.0633


Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:20:50 -0400
From: "Michael D. Sofka" <sofkam at rpi dot edu>
Subject: Re: Removing old email (was: Re: em utility?).

I enabled it long ago (and had a part in making
that policy).

 From an off-site account I just:

         1.  ftp'ed to ftp.rpi.edu
         2. loged in as anonymous
         3.  cd /home/89/sofkam/public/preenmail
         4.  ls
         5 get preenmail.pl

I had no problem.

Note, the intermediate paths will not work.  That's what
the README files are refering to---there is no way to
just look at a random directory, users have to enable
them (by touching .anon).  Some small number of
users have additionally asked that we list their public
directories.

Mike

At 01:02 PM 4/12/00 -0700, Derrick MacPherson wrote:
>Michael needs to grant access..
>
> >From the two READMEs there:
>
>RPI no longer supports the anonymous FTP incomming directory.  Individual
>users many now permit or depermit (the default) ftp access to their home
>volumes.  If you have any questions, see the kiosk article, or write
>ftp-maint at rpi dot edu
>
>and
>
>Below is a list of directories available to anonymous users.
>
> >cut<
>/home/84/veliaa/public_ftp
>/home/86/beyera/public/ftp
>/home/86/zehrj/public_html/ftp
>/home/92/tehrani/public_ftp

--
Michael D. Sofka                       sofkam at rpi dot edu
CIS/SSS Sr. Systems Programmer  AFS/DFS, email, listproc, TeX, epistemology.
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.    http://www.rpi.edu/~sofkam/


Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:27:23 -0400
From: "Michael D. Sofka" <sofkam at rpi dot edu>
Subject: Re: popper processes hanging

At 12:01 PM 4/12/00 -0700, Damon Harper wrote:
>hi there -
>
>we've had a problem here for a while now, using qpopper 2.53 (with
>specialauth for shadow passwords).  every so often, popper processes will
>begin to accumulate, apparently because they are failing to disconnect
>after a QUIT command is sent to the server.
>
>recently it's gotten worse, so we'll have 100-150 popper processes hanging
>before they all suddenly let go.

We had this problem.  What happens is on QUIT, popper has to copy
the mailbox first to the .<user>.pop file, then back to the mail box.  If
the file is large, this could take awhile.  If a couple of large files are
bing read at once this can cause other popper processes to wait for
disk.

Server mode helps, since the copy is then only necessary when mail
is being kept on the server.  We had a dedicated pop lock disk, and
we this still happened a couple times a week.  Eventually I hashed the
pop lock files on the mail spool.  The spool has a dedicated log disk,
and stiped.  Since then, so far, I've not seen the problem.

If you currently don't have a dedicated pop lock disk, and your
mail spool is overloaded, try moving it to a dedicated disk as a
quick solution.

Mike


>i have a feeling it may be a symptom of a bigger problem, but i thought
>i'd ask here and see if anyone else has had a similar symptom and, if so,
>what they did to fix it...
>
>the system is running linux 2.2.14, qpopper 2.53 from xinetd; any other
>specifics please ask.
>
>thanks
>
>-damon
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Damon Harper                                           damon at ihermes dot com
>SysAdmin / Programmer                            http://www.ihermes.com/
>Hermes Internet Solutions           Phone: (604) 606-0618  Fax: 606-0619

--
Michael D. Sofka                       sofkam at rpi dot edu
CIS/SSS Sr. Systems Programmer  AFS/DFS, email, listproc, TeX, epistemology.
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.    http://www.rpi.edu/~sofkam/


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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 13:35:24 -0700
From: Derrick MacPherson <derrick at mercuryfilmworks dot com>
Subject: Re: Removing old email (was: Re: em utility?).

Must be 'cause of our firewall.. I was able to get to it from our machine in
the DMZ

Thanks Michael


Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:01:51 -0700
From: Greg Hiscott <gjh at keyconnect dot com>
Subject: Re: qpopper stalling

3.0fc1

Leonard Hermens wrote:
> 
> Hi Greg,
> 
> Which version of qpopper?
> 
> -- Leonard
> 
> At 12:00 PM -0700 4/12/00, Greg Hiscott wrote:
> >When we receive messages with attachments.  Qpopper stalls for like 30
> >seconds and then
> >eventually completes sending the files.  Once for each attachment.
> >
> >Anybody run into this?
> >
> >Outlook2000 is the client (reported with netscrape as well)
> >SOlaris 2.6,2.7 on intel and sparc. is the server
> >All sun patches recommended have been installed.
> >
> >Greg
> >
> >--
> >http://keyconnect.com  V:818.545.0871  F:818.545.0633

--
http://keyconnect.com  V:818.545.0871  F:818.545.0633

From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:07:27 -0700
Subject: Re: SOLVED(1): mailboxes getting duplicated

On Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:56:05 +0100, Wallace Nicoll wrote:

>We occasionally see problems with large mailboxes (20Mb+ and
>especially with large messages within it), an overworked mail server,
>a slow network and low timeouts on Outlook Express. When a user
>connects to collect their mail, it takes so long to copy the mailbox
>into the temp copy, that the mail client times out before it has done
>the file transfer. Or it tries to check for mail again before the
>previous transfer is complete. Then users call our Help Desk!

It looks like qpopper tries to dropcopy before the authentication
step completes. Perhaps the copy should be started *after* the reply
to the client is issued, so the copy can be done in parallel with any
network traffic. The next command is likely to be list, so qpopper
could report message numbers and sizes in parallel with the copy
process. Implementing this with only one thread would be tricky, but
it's pretty straightforward if the copy is done in a second thread.

Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
http://www.harrybrowne2000.org/



Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 20:38:00 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: SOLVED(1): mailboxes getting duplicated

At 5:07 PM -0700 4/12/00, Kenneth Porter wrote:

>On Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:56:05 +0100, Wallace Nicoll wrote:
>
>>We occasionally see problems with large mailboxes (20Mb+ and
>>especially with large messages within it), an overworked mail server,
>>a slow network and low timeouts on Outlook Express. When a user
>>connects to collect their mail, it takes so long to copy the mailbox
>>into the temp copy, that the mail client times out before it has done
>>the file transfer. Or it tries to check for mail again before the
>>previous transfer is complete. Then users call our Help Desk!
>
>It looks like qpopper tries to dropcopy before the authentication
>step completes. Perhaps the copy should be started *after* the reply
>to the client is issued, so the copy can be done in parallel with any
>network traffic. The next command is likely to be list, so qpopper
>could report message numbers and sizes in parallel with the copy
>process. Implementing this with only one thread would be tricky, but
>it's pretty straightforward if the copy is done in a second thread.

The OK response to authentication includes drop information.  This is 
just comment noise, according to the POP spec (RFC 1939), but we've 
had problems before when we altered or removed comment noise.  Case 
in point: some very popular clients (e.g., Netscape) had problems 
when the OK response to RETR stopped including the octet count.

-- 
Randall Gellens
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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 12:01:17 -0400
From: "Michael D. Sofka" <sofkam at rpi dot edu>
Subject: Re: Removing old email (was: Re: em utility?).

At 11:41 AM 4/12/00 -0400, Michael D. Sofka wrote:
>At 02:42 PM 4/11/00 -0700, Jerry O'Brien wrote:
> >Yeah, I got bit too.  Any solution?
>
>You are welcome to try:
>
>          ftp://ftp.rpi.edu/home/89/sofkam/public/preenmail/preenmail.pl
>          ftp://ftp.rpi.edu/home/89/sofkam/public/preenmail/preenstats.pl
>          ftp://ftp.rpi.edu/home/89/sofkam/public/preenmail/README

Just an extra warning.

>Be sure to test file locking!!!!

I was asked about the .lock files.  Looking over the qpopper code, there
is a file in common called maillock(), which is used if your OS does not
have a native maillock().  AIX doesn't.  What maillock() does is create
a <mailbox>.lock file,  and lock it.  It may also lock the mailbox directly
(Randall?).  If it does lock the mailbox, then on AIX this routine is fine.
It would make a redundant .lock file, but as long as the mailbox itself
remains locked that will not be a problem.  (I'll be running tests some
time, any day real soon now. :-)

Regarding preenmail, for correct operation it might need to be modified
to also make and lock a .lock file.  I'm not sure.  The locking it does
now is correct for qpopper 2.53 and AIX 4.3.2.  If the local delivery
agent on Solaris expects a .lock file, preenmail would leave open a
window during which a new message could be appended to the mailbox,
after preenmail is finished preening, but before the preened mailbox
is moved into place.  On a fast sytem, the window is small on a slow
system it would be bigger.

Anyway, If anybody can test this on Solaris and popper 3.0, I would
appreciate it.  If a .lock file needs to be made, I can add a -maillock
option to preenmail.  I mostly want to warn those whose popper and
or local mail delivery program expect a .lock file.

Mike

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Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.    http://www.rpi.edu/~sofkam/


Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 12:08:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: Admin Mailing Lists <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
Subject: Re: your mail

I hacked 1 of the versions a while ago to get this to work, and it did, i
think it was 3.0b31.

It pulls the following response variables from the RADIUS server.
Mail-Uid
Mail-Home
Mail-Shell
User_Name
User_Password

I stopped working on it because I decided I'm going to go with an mysql
authentication for all my services. radius, qpopper, proftpd, apache

If you want it let me know and i'll send it to you.

-Tony
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admin at intergrafix dot net                    Intergrafix Internet Services

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On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, Davi Kleine Klock wrote:

> Hi all
>  
> Is there a way to use qpopper with a radius authentication?
>  
> Thanks
>  
>  
> ¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨=
¨¨¨¨¨¨¨ 
> Davi Klock
> Tecnologia da Informação 
> Fone:  55 41 341 1394 
> E-mail:  Davi <mailto:Davi.Klock at inepar.com.br> .Klock at inepar dot com dot br 
> Visite nosso site: http://www.inepar.com.br <http://www.inepar.com.br/>  =
 
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> regularmente seu Balanço Social, recebendo o Selo Social do IBASE, a ON=
G
> fundada pelo BETINHO ?
>  
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> publish its social balance and it has been awarded with the SOCIAL STAMP =
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A? 
>  
> 


Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 13:57:52 -0400
From: Dan Scoggins <dan.scoggins at gsfc.nasa dot gov>
Subject: Limiting the number of qpoppers

Hi All,

Recently I received a info on how to limit the number of qpopper processes
that inetd will allow which I promptly lost/deleted.  Would someone mind
re-posting that.

Thanx,

Dan Scoggins
--

From: "Lisa Casey" <lisa at jellico dot com>
Subject: Re: SOLVED(1): mailboxes getting duplicated
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 15:57:41 -0400

Hi,

For the past couple of weeks or so I've been seeing the following error in
my log file:

Apr 13 09:23:11 i2000 -sR[8909]: (null) at s31.jellico.com
(206.162.45.31): -ERR
 Unknown authentication mechanism: twinkie

I'm quite sure this is a qpopper message, not one from sendmail. Has anyone
seen something like this before and could you explain what it might mean?
This isn't covered in the FAQ.

Thanks,

Lisa Casey, Webmaster
Interstate 2000, Inc.
lisa at jellico dot com
webmaster at jellico dot com






From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 14:22:38 -0700
Subject: Re: SOLVED(1): mailboxes getting duplicated

On Wed, 12 Apr 2000 20:38:00 -0700, Randall Gellens wrote:

>The OK response to authentication includes drop information.  This is 
>just comment noise, according to the POP spec (RFC 1939), but we've 
>had problems before when we altered or removed comment noise.  Case 
>in point: some very popular clients (e.g., Netscape) had problems 
>when the OK response to RETR stopped including the octet count.

I'd noticed the drop info, but figured since it was a comment, it could
safely be dropped. I wonder if any clients do depend on this one?
Anyone care to perform an experiment, disable the comment and see which
clients break?

If the broken clients are just testing for an empty mailbox, it might
be possible to lie and simply report either "0 of 0" or "1 of 1" up
front and not give the real count until the LIST command.

The main advantage of having the drop info reported here is when one is
checking "manually" with a telnet connection, where the client timeout
is "configured" in the user's mind. I'd be happy to lose that
capability on a busy over-worked server.

Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
http://www.harrybrowne2000.org/



Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 20:11:36 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Qpopper 3.0 (final) available

Qpopper 3.0 (final) is available at 
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/>.

This is the official 3.0 release.

The Qpopper home page at <http://www.qpopper.org> has been updated. 
There is a new page for the 3.0 features at 
<http://www.qpopper.org/30.html>.

A somewhat abbreviated change list is on the Qpopper web site at 
<http://www.qpopper.org/changelist.html>

-- 
Randall Gellens
Opinions are personal;    facts are suspect;    I speak for myself only
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Blood is thicker than water, and much tastier.
                                       --anon.

Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 16:36:27 -0400
From: Forrest Aldrich <forrie at forrie dot com>
Subject: Re: Limiting the number of qpoppers

I don't know what other people are doing, but you can run Xinetd (in place 
of inetd) and limit the number of instances of qpopper (or any other 
daemon) from there.


_F


At 01:57 PM 4/13/00 -0400, Dan Scoggins wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>Recently I received a info on how to limit the number of qpopper processes
>that inetd will allow which I promptly lost/deleted.  Would someone mind
>re-posting that.
>
>Thanx,
>
>Dan Scoggins
>--


From: "Jerry O'Brien" <jobrien at cuttingedge dot net>
Subject: Unable to obtain socket and address of client, err = 107
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 15:16:34 -0700

Using  version 3.0b26, I'm getting this message in syslog, apparently from
pop_init.

Unable to obtain socket and address of client, err = 107

Anybody know what errno 107 is? The problem seems to last a few minutes,
during which time no one can connect to port 110. Then it clears up and
works fine.

Jerry O'Brien
Cutting Edge Systems




Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:35:42 +0000 (GMT)
From: Kevin Dabson <kevin at dnc-electronics dot com>
Subject: Qpopper 3 & Hashmailspool 2

Hello,

Have setup Qpopper 3 with hashmailspool 2 option
and added new procmail (edited src/authenticate.c
and sendmail m4 stuff). Have two problems.

Mail is being delivered to mail spool from
sendmail 8.10/procmail so this seems to be OK

1, The Hash mail spool directorys are not being 
automatically created. I had to add it manually 
(first two digits) I presume it should...

2, Qpopper is saying theirs no messages when their
is some.

I have edited config.h to change to correct mail spool
directory and compiled with hashmailspool 2 option.

Incidentally, had problem with --enable-temp-drop-dir
option (permissions) but quickly dumped this option 
as it's irrelevant at this stage.

Help appreciated

KD


Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:26:24 -0700
From: Derrick MacPherson <derrick at mercuryfilmworks dot com>
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3 & Hashmailspool 2

> 1, The Hash mail spool directorys are not being
> automatically created. I had to add it manually
> (first two digits) I presume it should...

Did anyone get back to you regarding this? I was wondering whether this
was the case or not...


Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:48:14 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Unable to obtain socket and address of client, err = 107

At 3:16 PM -0700 4/16/00, Jerry O'Brien wrote:

>Using  version 3.0b26

Now that 3.0 final has been released, you should upgrade to it. 
(This won't fix the specific error you're getting, but is a good 
idea.)

Are you using the latest patches for your OS and networking stack?
-- 
Randall Gellens
rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com
Opinions are personal;     facts are suspect;     I speak for myself only

Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 00:09:08 +0200
From: Ricardo Kustner <ricardo at rixhq dot nu>
Subject: 3.0 & IRIX/GCC

Hi,

Has anybody been able to compile qpopper3.0 on IRIX/gcc ?
I compiled it (with the usual bunch of warnings flying on the screen)
succesfully but the binary doesn't seem to work ok : when
I telnet to port 110, supply user and password, the telnet session
gets disconnected immediately and doesn't even log anything.
plus it doesn't remove the spoolname.lock file...
the weird thing is when i use --enable-debug for configure, it seems
to work ok... (i can give a STAT command... haven't tried actually
downloading mail yet). I even tried --enable-servermode (which is what i
want to start using actually). It can't be a --special-auth thingie
'cause IRIX doesn't need it and when I supply a wrong password, I get
the well known delay and auth error...
any ideas?

TIA,
Ricardo.

--


Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 19:39:06 -0500
From: Chris Snell <chris at bikeworld dot com>
Subject: running standalone

Hi!

I hope this question isn't too "FAQ". :)

I'm noticing a bit of latency on POP3 connections because inetd must spawn 
a popper process for every POP3 connection.  Is there a way to run qpopper 
as a standalone daemon that does not rely on inetd?

Chris Snell
--
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Systems & Networks                              210.602.2308 M
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From: "John W. Keener" <jkeener at utsi dot com>
Subject: RE: running standalone
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 12:11:22 -0500

It is possible to run qpopper as a standalone daemon.  It takes a little bit
of modification through.  In the source directory there is a file
called main.c   You need to add this into the make file.  For the normal
(inetd) version I beleive main() is in qpopper.c  This function needs to be
renamed to qpopper().
  If I remember correctly main.c contains a #define with a strange port
number, that should be changed to 110.  I hope this helps.

BTW: this did come up a few weeks ago.  Does anyone know if there is an
archive for list?

regards,
John Keener

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Snell [mailto:chris at bikeworld dot com]
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 7:39 PM
To: Subscribers of Qpopper
Subject: running standalone


Hi!

I hope this question isn't too "FAQ". :)

I'm noticing a bit of latency on POP3 connections because inetd must spawn
a popper process for every POP3 connection.  Is there a way to run qpopper
as a standalone daemon that does not rely on inetd?

Chris Snell
--
Chris Snell <chris at bikeworld dot com>               210.828.5558 W
Systems & Networks                              210.602.2308 M
Bike World of San Antonio                       210.832.8331 H
http://bikeworld.com | http://weathertools.com | http://gpstools.com


Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 16:45:57 -0400
From: Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
Subject: Re: !( SOLVED(1)): mailboxes getting duplicated

On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 10:40:01AM -0500, Michael D. Sofka wrote:
...
> I have seen one case where frequent mailbox duplication occurred
> without qpopper.  This was on a SunOS machine, using a native sun
> mailer on an NFS mounted partition.  It only happened to one person,
> but it happened almost every time he read email.  There were few users
> on this machine, so there was no chance of a new delivery or a duplicate
> attempt to read email.  Of course, this could have a completely unrelated
> cause.

It's well known that certain earlier versions of NFS did not have
working locking.  Mail spool files on those NFS file systems were
doomed.  ;-/

Do we know yet that this whole problem has gone away with 3.0 (final)?
;-)

-- 
Joe Yao				jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov - Joseph S. D. Yao
COSPO/OSIS Computer Support					EMT-B
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 14:09:22 -0700
From: chris loelke <chris at okanagan dot net>
Subject: compiling qpopper 3.0 final under SCO

anyone got qpopper to compile under SCO 5.0.5 using cc
i get this error
        cd ./popper  && make all                                               
        cd ../mmangle && make all                                              
        cd ../common && make all                                               
        cc -c -I.. -I. -I.. -I../popper -g -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -DUNIX maillock.c -
 maillock.o                                                                    
"/usr/include/sys/file.h", line 61: error: Syntax error before or at: ushort   
"/usr/include/sys/file.h", line 61: error: cannot recover from previous errors 

this is probably a SCO thing again with includes in the wrong order...


From: "Aaron Chipper" <aaron at cpc.net dot au>
Subject: RE: compiling qpopper 3.0 final under SCO
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 09:51:14 +1000

Dude,

When building a customised (read "SEVERELY hacked") version of 2.53, we ran
into  similar problems.  With a bit of experimentation we found that not
having
#include <sys/types.h> at the top of most modules that used system/socket
calls.

So pop the above include over your file.h one and see how you go.

If it's wrong, I take all abuse and no responsibility ;-)

Aaron Chipper
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: chris loelke [mailto:chris at okanagan dot net]
> Sent: Thursday, 20 April 2000 7:09
> To: Subscribers of Qpopper
> Subject: compiling qpopper 3.0 final under SCO
>
>
> anyone got qpopper to compile under SCO 5.0.5 using cc
> i get this error
>         cd ./popper  && make all
>
>         cd ../mmangle && make all
>
>         cd ../common && make all
>
>         cc -c -I.. -I. -I.. -I../popper -g -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
> -DUNIX maillock.c -
>  maillock.o
>
> "/usr/include/sys/file.h", line 61: error: Syntax error before or
> at: ushort
> "/usr/include/sys/file.h", line 61: error: cannot recover from
> previous errors
>
> this is probably a SCO thing again with includes in the wrong order...


From: "NightHawk" <NightHawk at szonline dot net>
Subject: Is it a bug of  "--enable-bulldb" in  qpopper3.xx? when does the qpopper support the Maildir message?
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 09:42:40 +0800

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Hello everyone:
     When i use  the  feature of "--enable-bulldb=/var/spool/bulls"  =
in 
qpopper3.XX on solaris7, I will suffer from the very slow authentication
when my users retrieve their messages, and  lead to unable to retrieve 
messages sometimes! I can't know why it is?, and  whether does it get to =

improve in Qpopper3.0?
     
     I am in expectation  that the qpopper could support the maildir 
format message and support the  NISPLUS or database. if it come true, 
I think that the qpopper can be used over NFS and it will support 
muti-pop3-server!
     
     Thanks in advance



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Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 09:21:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: qpopper 2.53
From: <jmcintyr at i-plus dot net>

folks:

i recently installed qpopper 2.53 on a 10.2 hpux d250. it installed just fine 
and runs fine. my problem resolves around the debug option. after i 
recompiled qpopper with the debug enabled, it is always in debug mode ie. 
lots of debug traces. the -d parm  doesn't have any effect either way. 

any ideas what i am doing wrong ?

thanks...jim mc....


# ./configure --enable-debugging | tee omni.install.notes.2
loading cache ./config.cache
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes
checking for gcc... (cached) cc
checking whether the C compiler (cc -O -Ae ) works... yes
checking whether the C compiler (cc -O -Ae ) is a cross-compiler... no
checking whether we are using GNU C... (cached) no
checking for POSIXized ISC... no
Will compile in debugging code
checking size of unsigned long int... (cached) 4
checking for sendmail program... found at /usr/sbin/sendmail


Subject: compiling popper-3.0 on SunOS
From:   Bruce Wm Folliott <bruce at cs.ualberta dot ca>
Date:   Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:12:52 -0600 (MDT)

Has anyone sucessfully compiled popper-3.0
on SunOS 4.1.4 with either gcc-2.7.2 or gcc-2.95?

I get the following errors:

In file included from logit.h:39,
                 from maillock.c:81:
../popper/popper.h:531: warning: parameter names (without types) in
function declaration
../popper/popper.h:532: warning: parameter names (without types) in
function declaration
In file included from maillock.c:81:
logit.h:50: warning: parameter names (without types) in function
declaration
logit.h:51: parse error before `...'

gcc -c -I.. -I. -I.. -I../popper -g -O2 -fpcc-struct-return
-DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -DSUNOS4 -DUNIX logit.c -o logit.o
logit.c:126: macro `va_start' used with just one arg

Bruce Wm Folliott

Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 10:58:05 -0700
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: compiling popper-3.0 on SunOS

At 11:12 AM -0600 4/20/00, Bruce Wm Folliott wrote:

>Has anyone sucessfully compiled popper-3.0
>on SunOS 4.1.4 with either gcc-2.7.2 or gcc-2.95?
>
>I get the following errors:
>
>In file included from logit.h:39,
>                  from maillock.c:81:
>../popper/popper.h:531: warning: parameter names (without types) in
>function declaration
>../popper/popper.h:532: warning: parameter names (without types) in
>function declaration
>In file included from maillock.c:81:
>logit.h:50: warning: parameter names (without types) in function
>declaration
>logit.h:51: parse error before `...'
>
>gcc -c -I.. -I. -I.. -I../popper -g -O2 -fpcc-struct-return
>-DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -DSUNOS4 -DUNIX logit.c -o logit.o
>logit.c:126: macro `va_start' used with just one arg
>
>Bruce Wm Folliott


Check if STDC_HEADERS is defined in config.h.

Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:04:46 -0500
From: Butch Kemper <kemper at tstar dot net>
Subject: MailBox Duplicated - Qpopper3.0/Server Mode

I encountered a problem with qpopper3.0 as follows:

	1.  I was using 2.53 with the option "KEEP_TEMP_DROP" because
	    we like to see when the customer last checked their mail.

	2.  I compiled qpopper3.0 and included a new option
	    "--enable-servermode".

	3.  During the initial test, the .pop file was left behind as
	    expected but it was NOT zero length.  The next time that
	    popper was invoked, the mailbox and the .pop file were
	    combined together.  This happened several times but not
	    every time.

	4.  I recompiled and removed the option "KEEP_TEMP_DROP" and
	    did not experience the problem again.

Butch

TSTAR Internet, Inc         | Making the Network Work
Marble Falls, TX            | Serving Blanco, Burnet, and
830-693-6967                | Llano Counties


Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 18:17:43 -0700
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Qpopper 3.0.1b1 available

Qpopper 3.0.1b1 is available at 
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/>.

A somewhat abbreviated change list is on the Qpopper web site at 
<http://www.qpopper.org/changelist.html>

The full list of changes from one beta release to the next is on the 
FTP site, at 
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/Changes>.


Changes from 3.0 final to 3.0.1b1
---------------------------------

  1.  Fixed crashes on older OSes with non-standard sprintf().
  2.  No longer using __STDC__ and STDC_HEADERS.  We now assume
      that all compilers support ANSI C and that standard C
      headers are available.
  3.  Renamed our maillock to Qmaillock, etc.  Now always using
      these routines.  This is for SunOS 4, et al.
  4.  Reordered '#include's again to ensure <sys/types.h> is earlier
      than most others.  This improves compilation on SCO 5, et al.
  5.  Fixed copy_buf() to use strlen of source string instead of
      value of first character.

Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 21:29:34 -0400
From: Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.0.1b1 available

On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 06:17:43PM -0700, Qpopper Support wrote:
>   2.  No longer using __STDC__ and STDC_HEADERS.  We now assume
>       that all compilers support ANSI C and that standard C
>       headers are available.

So much for the C delivered with a lot of systems.  Gcc downloading
will be on the rise.  ;-]

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Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 19:51:26 -0700
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.0.1b1 available

At 9:29 PM -0400 4/21/00, Joseph S D Yao wrote:

>On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 06:17:43PM -0700, Qpopper Support wrote:
>>    2.  No longer using __STDC__ and STDC_HEADERS.  We now assume
>>        that all compilers support ANSI C and that standard C
>>        headers are available.
>
>So much for the C delivered with a lot of systems.  Gcc downloading
>will be on the rise.  ;-]

I'm not sure what you're saying.  We get a lot of bug reports because 
of compilers that choke on the K&R syntax and/or don't define 
__STDC__ and/or where the config script didn't set STDC_HEADERS.

Besides, there has been ANSI-C-only code in Qpopper for about two 
years, and we've gotten zero complaints about that.

From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 21:30:40 -0700
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.0.1b1 available

On Fri, 21 Apr 2000 18:17:43 -0700, Qpopper Support wrote:

>Qpopper 3.0.1b1 is available at 
><ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/>.

How does one interpret the "b1"? Does that mean this is a beta of a bug
fix release?

Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
http://www.harrybrowne2000.org/




Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:17:07 -0700
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.0.1b1 available

At 9:30 PM -0700 4/21/00, Kenneth Porter wrote:

>  >Qpopper 3.0.1b1 is available at
>><ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/>.
>
>How does one interpret the "b1"? Does that mean this is a beta of a bug
>fix release?

Yes, this is a beta of a bug fix release.  (I want to make sure the 
bugs are really fixed.)  I anticipate very few beta cycles.

Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:27:03 -0700
From: Listmaster <listmaster at lists.pensive dot org>
Subject: New Anti-Spam Measures

The Qpopper public list was just spammed.  (Luckily, I happened to be 
right in front of the server when it happened, and was able to notice 
it and delete the spam before it was done, so some of you got it and 
some of you didn't; also it won't be in the archives.)

Accordingly, I have added restrictions to the list.  I had been 
reluctant to do so previously, because this makes it less convenient 
for people to use.

Effective immediately, only subscribers can post.  I realize how 
annoying this can be, since you may be subscribed using one address, 
but try and post from another (such as an admin account).  No one 
likes having their messages returned because the address wasn't 
subscribed.  One way to mitigate this is to subscribe all your 
addresses, but set all but one for NOMAIL.

In addition, subscribe and unsubscribe requests for the public 
Qpopper list will now be subject to mail-back confirmation.  This is 
to prevent spammers from sending a subscribe command prior to the 
spam.

Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 11:20:09 -0400
From: "Spencer Yost" <yostsw at newidea.atis dot net>
Subject: Hack attempt!?!

Late yesterday evening, a mail client reported that my server (qpopper
3.0b19)was responding with a message to the effect of:
Mail server MAIL.ATIS.NET does not do APOP

So I looked at the logs and and looked at the popper executable.
Frighteningly, it was time stamped with yesterday's date around 14:22.
Interestingly, I started having log entries show up (starting 14:28) that
state:

Apr 22 14:39:26 newidea popper[3544]: (v3.0b19) Unable to get canonical
name of client, err = 111


Clearly someone hacked in, replaced popper, and started trying to
communicate with it every 15 minutes or so.

So naturally, I shut down network services, recompiled popper and changed
root's password.   Now size of code file is about 20K bigger so I know
something is amiss.

I think they hacked in through qpopper, as they were not able to hide their
activities (couldn't change the file's time-stamp, or size) as you would
expect a hacker who had access to the command prompt would do.   Any
security issues with 3.0b19 anyone knows about?  If so,, is there any other
back doors, traps, cleanups I should expect?

Thanks in advance,

Spencer Yost
Owner, ATIS
Plow the Net!
http://www.atis.net


Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 18:15:12 +0000 (GMT)
From: Kevin Dabson <kevin at dnc-electronics dot com>
Subject: standalone popper 3

Hello 

Just attempted running Qpopper 3 in standalone mode
on redhat 6.1 on a pc.

Added main.c and main.o into Makefile

renamed main() in popper.c to popper()

And changed #define TCP... to 110

When telnetting in - no qpopper info comes up although 
it's like telnet is listening to something and
just waits. (I have to reboot to get out of telnet session) 

Also remarked out pop-3 line in /etc/inetd.conf
and also disabled Inetd completely.

I just run it by ../popper -s

Just wondering if anyone has got this working with 
redhat on PC and also what version of qpopper they
using. 

Best Regards

KD



Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 12:52:47 -0700
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Hack attempt!?!

At 11:20 AM -0400 4/23/00, Spencer Yost wrote:

>Any
>security issues with 3.0b19 anyone knows about?  If so,, is there any other
>back doors, traps, cleanups I should expect?

Yes!  See <http://www.eudora.com/qpopper/#BUFFER>.  You should 
upgrade to 3.0 (final) right away.

3.0b19 is very old.  When running betas, it is a good idea to keep current.

From: Daniel Norton <danorton at chsw dot com>
Subject: LOG_LOGIN Woes
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 22:25:55 -0400

I configured and built with "--enable-log-login --enable-shy
--enable-specialauth" and I'm expecting to see a login record somewhere.
But where?

Thanks.

(I'm running 3.0 1b1 under Linux 6.1/i386.)

--
Daniel Norton

From: Daniel Norton <danorton at chsw dot com>
Subject: Re: LOG_LOGIN Woes
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 09:15:07 -0400

On Sun, 23 Apr 2000 22:25:55 -0400, Daniel Norton <danorton at chsw dot com>
wrote:
>I'm expecting to see a login record somewhere.

I looked but overlooked it in maillog.  I see it now.  Thanks.

Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 11:34:56 -0400
From: Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.0.1b1 available

On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 07:51:26PM -0700, Qpopper Support wrote:
> At 9:29 PM -0400 4/21/00, Joseph S D Yao wrote:
> 
> >On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 06:17:43PM -0700, Qpopper Support wrote:
> >>    2.  No longer using __STDC__ and STDC_HEADERS.  We now assume
> >>        that all compilers support ANSI C and that standard C
> >>        headers are available.
> >
> >So much for the C delivered with a lot of systems.  Gcc downloading
> >will be on the rise.  ;-]
> 
> I'm not sure what you're saying.  We get a lot of bug reports because 
> of compilers that choke on the K&R syntax and/or don't define 
> __STDC__ and/or where the config script didn't set STDC_HEADERS.
> 
> Besides, there has been ANSI-C-only code in Qpopper for about two 
> years, and we've gotten zero complaints about that.

I agree with the need to standardize.

I  k n o w  that "zero complaints" is an exaggeration by at least one.
;-)

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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 13:07:36 -0400
From: Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.0.1b1 available

On Mon, Apr 24, 2000 at 08:46:08AM -0700, Qpopper Support wrote:
> At 11:34 AM -0400 4/24/00, Joseph S D Yao wrote:
> >I  k n o w  that "zero complaints" is an exaggeration by at least one.
> 
> Maybe I misunderstood something, but I don't recall a single 
> complaint about the ANSI-C-only code.  Can you refresh my memory?

My apologies.  I went back and looked, and it was K&R code annoying an
allegedly ANSI C compiler.  ;-/

Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 09:57:15 -0400
From: Karyn McCambridge <karynm at afb dot net>
Subject: qpopper 2.5.3

I was wondering how can I stop my users from receiving SPAM mail? 
Is it something I need to setup through qpopper or sendmail. I am runing
sendmail 8.9.3.
Any links to HowTo's or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Karyn



Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 08:43:17 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. Breu" <breu at cfu dot net>
Subject: Re: qpopper 2.5.3

On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Karyn McCambridge wrote:

> I was wondering how can I stop my users from receiving SPAM mail? 
> Is it something I need to setup through qpopper or sendmail. I am runing
> sendmail 8.9.3.
> Any links to HowTo's or advice would be greatly appreciated.

check out http://www.mail-abuse.org

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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:01:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: Steven Champeon <schampeo at hesketh dot com>
Subject: Re: qpopper 2.5.3

On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Karyn McCambridge wrote:
> I was wondering how can I stop my users from receiving SPAM mail? 

Disable their account.

No, seriously - there are many ways you can cut down on spam, but no
other all-encompassing, total-annihiliation, no-more-spam-forever ways.

Start here:

 http://www.mail-abuse.org
 http://www.spambouncer.org/
 http://www.orbs.org

That should give you some ideas.

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