The qpopper list archive ending on 10 Oct 2000


Topics covered in this issue include:

  1. Re: nosuch user
       Graphic Rezidew <rezidew at rezidew dot net>
       Fri, 29 Sep 2000 00:22:26 -0500
  2. Re: nosuch user
       Paul Robinson <paul at akitanet.co dot uk>
       Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:31:37 +0100
  3. standalone
       "Joel B. Laing" <joel at scripps dot edu>
       Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:43:35 -0700
  4. Re: standalone
       Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
       Fri, 29 Sep 2000 23:51:26 -0700
  5. looking for info as to where..
       Admin Mailing Lists <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
       Mon, 2 Oct 2000 09:14:07 -0400 (EDT)
  6. Re: looking for info as to where..
       Peter Evans <peter at gol dot com>
       Tue, 3 Oct 2000 00:15:39 +0900
  7. Re: looking for info as to where..
       Carrer Yuri <yurj at alfa dot it>
       Mon, 2 Oct 2000 17:17:27 +0200 (MET DST)
  8. email messages are concatenated together
       Michel Heirbaut <mht at rtbf dot be>
       Mon, 2 Oct 2000 17:43:00 +0200 (MET DST)
  9. Qpopper 3.1b12 available
       Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
       Mon, 2 Oct 2000 14:44:57 -0700
 10. Re: email messages are concatenated together
       "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
       Mon, 02 Oct 2000 18:48:19 -0700
 11. Re: looking for info as to where..
       Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
       Mon, 2 Oct 2000 19:07:07 -0700
 12. New QPOP user
       Dapid Candra <dapidc at cbn.net dot id>
       Tue, 03 Oct 2000 13:42:03 +0700
 13. "ERR - Unknown command: "xsender"  message in syslog file
       Vitkus Mary <maryvit at kougars.kish.cc.il dot us>
       Tue, 3 Oct 2000 08:03:22 -0500 (CDT)
 14. Re: New QPOP user
       "Julian Y. Koh" <kohster at mac dot com>
       Tue, 3 Oct 2000 09:41:25 -0500
 15. Another New QPOP user
       "Mark Weisman" <mweisman at gci dot net>
       Tue, 3 Oct 2000 07:02:26 -0800
 16. APOP authentication
       Eric Lobenstine <elob at chem.chem.rochester dot edu>
       Tue, 03 Oct 2000 10:51:15 -0400
 17. Re: "ERR - Unknown command: "xsender"  message in syslog file
       Steven Champeon <schampeo at hesketh dot com>
       Tue, 3 Oct 2000 11:17:21 -0400
 18. Content Length problems
       "Rob Hines Jr." <rhines at joboptions dot com>
       Tue, 03 Oct 2000 11:06:21 -0500
 19. Re: "ERR - Unknown command: "xsender"  message in syslog file
       Michael Keating <mkeating at lasallehs dot org>
       Tue, 03 Oct 2000 08:43:49 -0700
 20. Re: APOP authentication
       "Julian Y. Koh" <kohster at mac dot com>
       Tue, 3 Oct 2000 12:15:52 -0500
 21. Re: Another New QPOP user
       "Joel B. Laing" <joel at scripps dot edu>
       Tue, 03 Oct 2000 10:14:43 -0700
 22. Re: APOP authentication
       "Joel B. Laing" <joel at scripps dot edu>
       Tue, 03 Oct 2000 09:49:11 -0700
 23. RE: Another New QPOP user
       Mark Weisman <mweisman at gci dot com>
       Tue, 3 Oct 2000 09:36:56 -0800 
 24. Re: Another New QPOP user
       "Joel B. Laing" <joel at scripps dot edu>
       Tue, 03 Oct 2000 10:43:34 -0700
 25. Re: APOP authentication
       Frank Pineau <frank at pineaus dot com>
       Tue, 03 Oct 2000 13:43:27 -0400
 26. Qpopper / Postfix / MySQL Help Wanted!
       Jack Sasportas <jack at innovativeinternet dot com>
       Tue, 03 Oct 2000 20:32:17 -0400
 27. Re: "ERR - Unknown command: "xsender"  message in syslog file
       "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
       Tue, 03 Oct 2000 20:18:13 -0700
 28. Re: New QPOP user
       Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
       Tue, 3 Oct 2000 22:43:43 -0700
 29. Re: Content Length problems
       Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
       Tue, 3 Oct 2000 23:01:07 -0700
 30. switching servers causes queue re-reads
       "Judy Duffy" <judy at webalchemy dot net>
       Tue, 3 Oct 2000 23:15:15 -0700
 31. Re: Content Length problems
       "Rob Hines Jr." <rhines at joboptions dot com>
       Wed, 04 Oct 2000 09:05:34 -0500
 32. 3.1b12: configure broken bigtime
       Jeff Earickson <jaearick at colby dot edu>
       Wed, 4 Oct 2000 10:52:09 -0400 (EDT)
 33. Qpopper 3.1fc1 available
       Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
       Wed, 4 Oct 2000 12:52:36 -0700
 34. RE: Qpopper 3.1fc1 available
       "InvictaNet Customer Support" <support at invictanet.co dot uk>
       Thu, 5 Oct 2000 13:04:09 +0100
 35. RE: Qpopper 3.1fc1 available
       "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
       Thu, 05 Oct 2000 05:28:31 -0700
 36. Re: looking for info as to where..
       Admin Mailing Lists <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
       Thu, 5 Oct 2000 10:32:15 -0400 (EDT)
 37. Installing Qpopper 3.0.2 On Red Hat Linux 7.0
       "Kor Kiley" <Kor.Kiley at uvm dot edu>
       Fri, 6 Oct 2000 08:45:46 -0400
 38. Subscription error
       "Hummel, Timo" <timo.hummel at sap dot com>
       Fri, 6 Oct 2000 15:27:28 +0200 
 39. Re: Installing Qpopper 3.0.2 On Red Hat Linux 7.0
       James Ralston <qralston+ml.qpopper at andrew.cmu dot edu>
       Fri, 6 Oct 2000 14:25:35 -0400 (EDT)
 40. --enable-timing ??
       Leonard Hermens <Leonard.Hermens at rcity dot com>
       Fri, 06 Oct 2000 12:04:42 -0700
 41. Re: --enable-timing ??
       Jeff Earickson <jaearick at colby dot edu>
       Fri, 6 Oct 2000 15:26:32 -0400 (EDT)
 42. Re: --enable-timing ??
       Leonard Hermens <Leonard.Hermens at rcity dot com>
       Fri, 06 Oct 2000 14:05:02 -0700
 43. Re: --enable-timing ??
       Leonard Hermens <Leonard.Hermens at rcity dot com>
       Fri, 06 Oct 2000 19:20:31 -0700
 44. Qpopper 3.1 (final) available
       Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
       Mon, 9 Oct 2000 13:03:43 -0700
 45. QPopper 3.1: Drac suport VS Sendmail SMTP AUTH
       "Nuno Teixeira" <nuno.teixeira at pt-quorum dot com>
       Tue, 10 Oct 2000 00:34:24 +0100
 46. Re: QPopper 3.1: Drac suport VS Sendmail SMTP AUTH
       Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
       Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:41:15 +1300 (NZDT)
 47. Re: QPopper 3.1: Drac suport VS Sendmail SMTP AUTH
       Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
       Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:02:09 -0700
 48. Web based e-mail utility
       Dapid Candra <dapidc at cbn.net dot id>
       Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:13:34 +0700
 49. Re: Web based e-mail utility
       "Wodecki, Wiktor" <Wodecki at wapme-systems dot de>
       Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:32:51 +0200
 50. AW: Web based e-mail utility
       "Wodecki, Wiktor" <Wodecki at wapme-systems dot de>
       Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:57:02 +0200

Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 00:22:26 -0500
From: Graphic Rezidew <rezidew at rezidew dot net>
Subject: Re: nosuch user

Since there's not such thing as "linux 6.2" you might want to provide a 
little more information.


On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 07:39:19PM -0500, rudy wrote:
> I have a problem , I have qpopper (newer version) running on linux 6.2
> we are an isp , and one of our isdn customers cant send mail to anyone
> at its own isp ( us )
> it gives them an error saying there is no such user !!
> they  can send mail everywhere except  to the people at its own isp !
> 
> any suggestions ?
> comment?
> 
> 
> Help ME!!
> 
> Rudy
> 

From: Paul Robinson <paul at akitanet.co dot uk>
Subject: Re: nosuch user
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:31:37 +0100

On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, rudy wrote:
> I have a problem , I have qpopper (newer version) running on linux 6.2
> we are an isp , and one of our isdn customers cant send mail to anyone
> at its own isp ( us )
> it gives them an error saying there is no such user !!
> they  can send mail everywhere except  to the people at its own isp !

First of all, you mean Redhat 6.2 and not linux 6.2 (at a guess - most people 
who run Redhat seem to think *it* is Linux). 

Secondly, if the customer is receiving a bounce message it's a problem with 
the configuration of the MTA (i.e., sendmail, exim, qmail, postfix), and 
nothing to do with qpopper. Qpopper is to *RECEIVE* e-mail, not to send it. 
Therefore the question is not one relevant to this list.

Thirdly, if (s)he is the only customer who can't send mail to that address, 
no matter what they are telling you, it's 99.99999999% chance of being a user 
error on their end - a mis-spelling, or configuration error in their mail 
client. If other people can't send mail to that address as well, then it's 
going to be a configuration issue with the MTA, not with qpopper.

Lastly, I'd really like to know how you got your job when you don't already 
know the above. :-)

-- 
Paul Robinson

Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:43:35 -0700
From: "Joel B. Laing" <joel at scripps dot edu>
Subject: standalone

Hi all,

I've compiled qpopper3.1b11 with the following configure options:
--standalone
--enable-apop=/etc/pop.auth
--enable-pop-uid=pop

The system is: SunOS 5.5.1 Generic_103640-31 sun4d sparc
SUNW,SPARCserver-1000

When I try to fire up the daemon, it immediately exits. Here's the end
of a truss:

open("/usr/openwin/lib/libw.so.1", O_RDONLY)    Err#2 ENOENT
open("/usr/lib/libw.so.1", O_RDONLY)            = 3
fstat(3, 0xDFFFF82C)                            = 0
mmap(0xDF790000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0)
= 0xDF790000
mmap(0x00000000, 94208, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) =
0xDF580000
munmap(0xDF587000, 61440)                       = 0
mmap(0xDF596000, 3512, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC,
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 24576) = 0xDF596000
close(3)                                        = 0
open("/usr/platform/SUNW,SPARCserver-100 0/lib/libc_psr.so.1", O_RDONLY)
Err#2 ENOENT
close(4)                                        = 0
munmap(0xDF790000, 4096)                        = 0
open("/dev/null", O_RDWR|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC, 0666) = 3
brk(0x000542E8)                                 = 0
brk(0x000562E8)                                 = 0
fork()                                          = 7885
    Received signal #18, SIGCLD [default]
      siginfo: SIGCLD CLD_EXITED pid=7885 status=0x0000
lseek(0, 0, SEEK_CUR)                           = 113123
lseek(3, 0, SEEK_CUR)                           = 0
_exit(0)


I've compiled with both gcc and SUNWspro-5.0 cc... To the same ends.
It worked fine on a SunOS 5.7 Generic_106541-04 sun4u sparc
SUNW,Ultra-1.
Seems that the problem is not finding libc_psr.so.1. Is this because my
SPARCserver-1000 is mis-configured? Or is it because the standalone
option does not support such old gear? The same version of qpopper
compiles and runs fine on both systems if I do not try to use
standalone.

Thanks,
Joel

Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 23:51:26 -0700
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: standalone

At 4:43 PM -0700 9/29/00, Joel B. Laing wrote:

>  When I try to fire up the daemon, it immediately exits.

Stupid question, but I have to ask: Are you sure there isn't a popper 
process still running?  When I run in stand alone on SunOS 5.5.1, a 
'ps -ef' shows the actual daemon still there, after the one I run has 
exited.

Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 09:14:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: Admin Mailing Lists <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
Subject: looking for info as to where..

Hi,

I've been starting to write a log parser for the popper log for our tech
support people. Putting certain things from the log into HTML tables per
day, etc.. so far i'm picking out bad logins, good logins (but only after
a bad login), pop timeouts, pop hangups, and pop lock busies.
Anyway, i was pulling out the good logins by the lines containing "Stats:"
but i dont know if this is correct? Does this take place at login or after
all interaction is done with the user? If it's at login i guess it's stats
of msgs that WILL be deleted/WILL be kept, and if it's AFTER, it's msgs
that WERE deleted/WERE kept. It sounds more plausible that it would be
after interaction, but the timestamps just dont seem right..maybe i'm
reading it wrong.
Lastly, any debug lines you think would be helpful to my people that
i should include in the logfile? I really dont want to enable ALL
debugging, because the logfile gets REALLY huge and 1/2 of the stuff i
dont need. So if i could just select a choice few entries, that would be
fine. i dont care if i have to change the specific DEBUG_LOG's to
pop_msg's
Definately lastly, what exactly does the pop timeout and pop hangup
messages represent. I was hoping when the user cancelled the message
download, that's when the hangup messages came up

I'm running 3.0.1 on linux with:
--enable-servermode --enable-specialauth --enable-hash-spool=2 --ena
ble-temp-drop-dir=/usr/tmp/.pop

Thanx,

-Tony
.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
Anthony J. Biacco                       Network Administrator/Engineer
thelittleprince at asteroid-b612 dot org       Intergrafix Internet Services

    "Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today"
http://www.asteroid-b612.org                http://www.intergrafix.net
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 00:15:39 +0900
From: Peter Evans <peter at gol dot com>
Subject: Re: looking for info as to where..

Admin Mailing Lists (mlist at intergrafix dot net) wrote:
> Anyway, i was pulling out the good logins by the lines containing "Stats:"
> but i dont know if this is correct? Does this take place at login or after
> all interaction is done with the user? If it's at login i guess it's stats

	according to the definition, after.

Oct  3 00:01:27 6C:murasaki popper[2138810]: connect from elided.west.ultradns.com
Oct  3 00:01:30 5Q:murasaki popper[2138810]: Stats: tests 5 4075 0 0

	Stats: <user> <read> <octets> <remaining messages on server> <remaining bytes>

	This is 2.53-ldap. 
	2.53 has a cute race condition somewhere that will double the size
	of the mail box ^^; endymion mailman (webmail crud) is very good at triggering it.

	
	When 3.1 stops developing feeping creaturism (and hopefully has a -DNOMIMEMANGLINGATALL)
	then I'll port in my little ldap hacks. ^_^; It's pretty simple code stolen
	from my pop-proxy program.


	P
	----+

	that POP is from www.concillience.com beta.

-- 
Remember The 5 K's.				You look like you need a monkey ...
The Justified Agents of Munya-munya-muuuu ...

Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 17:17:27 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Carrer Yuri <yurj at alfa dot it>
Subject: Re: looking for info as to where..

> 	When 3.1 stops developing feeping creaturism (and hopefully has
> a -DNOMIMEMANGLINGATALL) 

 Why this? :) what is -DNOMIMEMANGLINGATALL for? :)

							Yuri


From: Michel Heirbaut <mht at rtbf dot be>
Subject: email messages are concatenated together
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 17:43:00 +0200 (MET DST)

Hello,

Here are the results of some tests I made on my system about concatenated=

mails problem.
For what I can see qpopper is using the Content-Length header to find =

the different messages in the spool.
If no Content-Length header exists, qpopper assume that a blank line
followed by "From " on the next line is the beginning of the next message=
=2E

On my Solaris system both /bin/mail and /usr/lib/mail.local are creating =
or
replacing that Content-Length header when delivering messages localy.
That's where the problem is. Some times that Content-Length value is 1 by=
te
more then what should be expected (if not counting the newline between th=
e
header and the body).
I was able to keep a copy of the messages in the spool which led to conca=
tenated
mails after retrieving.
The first message had a wrong (by 1 byte) Content-Length value.
After editing the spool and correct the Content-Length value, I then
retrieved separated messages.

Obviously neither /bin/mail or /usr/lib/mail.local are suited for the job=
=2E
I replaced the local mailer in sendmail.cf and I use procmail.
(/usr/local/bin/procmail v3.14 1999/11/22).

I also added a "b" flag to be sure to have 1 blank line at the end of the=
 appended
messages (F=blsDFMAw5:/|@qSnE9,).

I hope this can help other Solaris users.


-- =

------------------------------------------------------------
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 / _ | T   Michel Heirbaut              fax:+32 2 737 4345
| (_)| B   Ingénieur Système
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Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 14:44:57 -0700
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Qpopper 3.1b12 available

Qpopper 3.1b12 is available at 
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/>.

A somewhat abbreviated change list is on the Qpopper web site at 
<http://www.qpopper.org/changelist.html>

The full list of changes from one release to the next is on the FTP 
site, at 
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/beta/Changes>.

The 3.1 release notes are at: 
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/beta/Release.Notes>.

Changes from 3.1b11 to 3.1b12
-----------------------------

  1.  --enable-auto-delete now requires expire=0 (and sets it
      that way by default).
  2.  Fixed link error for 'strip_domain' when --enable-scram
      used.
  3.  Fixed compilation problems with SCRAM.
  4.  Add '-idirafter /usr/local/include' since some systems
      (often BSD) don't search there by default, yet gdbm install
      puts files there.
  5.  Fixed standalone mode to avoid looping before quit, and to
      handle differences in wait3(3C) return values.
  6.  Issue error 4 instead of crashing if PAM appdata pointer is
      null (known bug in Solaris PAM fixed in Solaris 7 and patch
      106257-05).
  7.  Added '--disable-update-abort' to set NOUPDATEONABORT.
  8.  Moved UnixWare case before default in configure.
  9.  Fixed authentication in stand-alone mode on BSDI.
10.  Fixed tracing in stand-alone mode.

From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 18:48:19 -0700
Subject: Re: email messages are concatenated together

On Mon, 2 Oct 2000 17:43:00 +0200 (MET DST), Michel Heirbaut wrote:

>On my Solaris system both /bin/mail and /usr/lib/mail.local are creating or
>replacing that Content-Length header when delivering messages localy.
>That's where the problem is. Some times that Content-Length value is 1 byte
>more then what should be expected (if not counting the newline between the
>header and the body).

Would it make sense to add a qpopper configure switch like
"--content-length-fudge=-1" to compensate for broken delivery agents?
(BTW, I see that 3.1b12 includes a workaround for a Solaris PAM bug, so
there's precedent for dealing with others' broken software.)

Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
http://www.harrybrowne2000.org/



Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 19:07:07 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: looking for info as to where..

At 9:14 AM -0400 10/2/00, Admin Mailing Lists wrote:

>  Hi,
>
>  I've been starting to write a log parser for the popper log for our tech
>  support people. Putting certain things from the log into HTML tables per
>  day, etc.. so far i'm picking out bad logins, good logins (but only after
>  a bad login), pop timeouts, pop hangups, and pop lock busies.
>  Anyway, i was pulling out the good logins by the lines containing "Stats:"
>  but i dont know if this is correct? Does this take place at login or after
>  all interaction is done with the user? If it's at login i guess it's stats
>  of msgs that WILL be deleted/WILL be kept, and if it's AFTER, it's msgs
>  that WERE deleted/WERE kept. It sounds more plausible that it would be
>  after interaction, but the timestamps just dont seem right..maybe i'm
>  reading it wrong.

The 'stats' line is written at the end of the session.  If you want 
to log th start of a session, use '--enable-log-login', which causes 
Qpopper to write a log entry when a user authenticates.

>  Lastly, any debug lines you think would be helpful to my people that
>  i should include in the logfile? I really dont want to enable ALL
>  debugging, because the logfile gets REALLY huge and 1/2 of the stuff i
>  dont need. So if i could just select a choice few entries, that would be
>  fine. i dont care if i have to change the specific DEBUG_LOG's to
>  pop_msg's
>  Definately lastly, what exactly does the pop timeout and pop hangup
>  messages represent. I was hoping when the user cancelled the message
>  download, that's when the hangup messages came up

Timeout means no input was received from the client within the 
timeout period, while hangup means the connection closed without the 
client sending QUIT, which could mean the user cancelled the 
download, or the connection was dropped, or the client machine 
crashed, or there was a network problem somewhere, or....

>
>  I'm running 3.0.1 on linux with:
>  --enable-servermode --enable-specialauth --enable-hash-spool=2 --ena
>  ble-temp-drop-dir=/usr/tmp/.pop
>
>  Thanx,
>
>  -Tony
>  .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
>  Anthony J. Biacco                       Network Administrator/Engineer
>  thelittleprince at asteroid-b612 dot org       Intergrafix Internet Services
>
>      "Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today"
>  http://www.asteroid-b612.org                http://www.intergrafix.net
>  .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.


Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 13:42:03 +0700
From: Dapid Candra <dapidc at cbn.net dot id>
Subject: New QPOP user

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Hi all,

I am a new qpopper user. I have download and installed qpopper 3.1b11 using 
RPM on RedHat 6.2.

Since installing via RPM is too simple, I am confuse on how to configure 
qpopper daemons and APOP database.
My first try results: (in Eudora style)

There has been an error transferring your mail. I said: APOP <shhhh! Don't 
tell anyone.> and then POP server (dapidc at mail.hargagrosir dot com) said:  ERR 
[SYS/TEMP] POP authentication DB not available (user dapidc): No such file 
or directory(2).

While I am browsing through the mailing-list archive, can anyone give me 
advice about the error?

I am planning to configure the mail server as secure as possible, probably 
using APOP or tunneling via SSL. Which method is  most secure? I don't care 
about the client's software, they have to do as I say or they may not use 
my mail server.

Thanks for your kind attention.


Dapid Candra
=====================================
Chief Technology Officer - www.karir.com
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 08:03:22 -0500 (CDT)
From: Vitkus Mary <maryvit at kougars.kish.cc.il dot us>
Subject: "ERR - Unknown command: "xsender"  message in syslog file

I was wondering what I could do to eliminate the 
ERR - Unknown command: "xsender"  message that is reapeated 
all day long in my syslog file.
The actual messages are sent out with no problem.  99% of my
people use Netscape mail.
Thanks in advance for any help.  

Also every now and then, a "DO NOT DELETE THIS MESSAGE" from folder
message comes thru.  Is there a way to stop that from getting thru as a
message?

___________________________________________________________________________
Mary Vitkus						Network Admin	
maryvit at kougars.kish.cc.il dot us				Kishwaukee College
http://kish.cc.il.us					
___________________________________________________________________________



Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 09:41:25 -0500
From: "Julian Y. Koh" <kohster at mac dot com>
Subject: Re: New QPOP user

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At 13:42 +0700 10/3/2000, Dapid Candra wrote:
>Since installing via RPM is too simple, I am confuse on how to configure
>qpopper daemons and APOP database.
>My first try results: (in Eudora style)
>
>There has been an error transferring your mail. I said: APOP <shhhh!
>Don't  tell anyone.> and then POP server (dapidc at mail.hargagrosir dot com)
>said:  ERR  [SYS/TEMP] POP authentication DB not available (user dapidc):
>No such file  or directory(2).
>
>While I am browsing through the mailing-list archive, can anyone give me
>advice about the error?

Most likely you didn't add the user to the APOP database.  Make sure you
compiled qpopper with APOP support.  Then use the "popauth" command to add
users to the APOP database.

>I am planning to configure the mail server as secure as possible,
>probably  using APOP or tunneling via SSL. Which method is  most secure?
>I don't care  about the client's software, they have to do as I say or
>they may not use  my mail server.

APOP only protects username and password.  SSL would protect username,
password, and mail contents.


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From: "Mark Weisman" <mweisman at gci dot net>
Subject: Another New QPOP user
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 07:02:26 -0800

I have recently assembled my QPopper3.0.2 server on a 6.2.1 Red Hat box, and
although I can pick up mail with "pine", the mail is not being recognized by
the QPopper server. How can I point it back to the QPopper software. I used
the configuration below during my compile, and yet, pine is receiving the
mail, and QPopper isn't. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

God Bless,
Mark

PGP FingerPrint
D7AC 8101 D339 CBEF D0D9 AB50 0CB4 EA00 7DA4 BB6B

./configure --enable-specialauth --enable-servermode --enable-log-login --en
able-home-dir-mail=.mail --enable-hash-spool=1 --enable-apop=/etc/pop.auth -
-with-popuid=pop



Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 10:51:15 -0400
From: Eric Lobenstine <elob at chem.chem.rochester dot edu>
Subject: APOP authentication

hello -

I have been thinking about the advantages of APOP authentication for my 
email users, but not all of them have clients capable of APOP.  If you 
compile qpopper with APOP enabled, does that mean that EVERYONE has to use 
APOP? Or can some users authenticate with APOP, and others use regular, 
unencrypted passwords?

cheers!

Eric Lobenstine

Eric Lobenstine, Ph.D.			elob at chem.chem.rochester dot edu
Manager of Computers and Network	(716)275-0340
Chemistry Department			(716)473-6889 (FAX)
University of Rochester
Rochester, NY 14627-0216


Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 11:17:21 -0400
From: Steven Champeon <schampeo at hesketh dot com>
Subject: Re: "ERR - Unknown command: "xsender"  message in syslog file

on Tue, Oct 03, 2000 at 08:03:22AM -0500, Vitkus Mary wrote:
> I was wondering what I could do to eliminate the 
> ERR - Unknown command: "xsender"  message that is reapeated 
> all day long in my syslog file.

1) get your users to stop using Netscape Communicator

or

2) comment out the offending error message in the source, recompile.

or

3) add 'user_pref("mail.auth_login", false);' to prefs.js or 
   Netscape Preferences for each user.

> The actual messages are sent out with no problem.  99% of my
> people use Netscape mail.

I'd recommend #2, then.

> Also every now and then, a "DO NOT DELETE THIS MESSAGE" from folder
> message comes thru.  Is there a way to stop that from getting thru as a
> message?

I'd recommend you read the FAQ:

 http://www.eudora.com/qpopper/faq.html

...even though it doesn't answer your second question (even though it,
too, is a FAQ). Read any of these pages:

 http://www.google.com/search?q=DO+NOT+DELETE+THIS+MESSAGE

HTH,
Steve

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Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 11:06:21 -0500
From: "Rob Hines Jr." <rhines at joboptions dot com>
Subject: Content Length problems

I am running qmail on a Solaris 8 system, and have had no problems with
mail delivery or retrieval at all, other than periodic instances of
messages becoming appended to the previous message. I was told this was
a Content_Length header problem in qpopper and wonder if anyone knows of
a concrete fix for it. I am running qpopper v3.0.2 currently.

Rob


Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 08:43:49 -0700
From: Michael Keating <mkeating at lasallehs dot org>
Subject: Re: "ERR - Unknown command: "xsender"  message in syslog file

At 08:03 AM 10/3/00 -0500, Mary Vitkus wrote:
>I was wondering what I could do to eliminate the
>ERR - Unknown command: "xsender"  message that is reapeated
>all day long in my syslog file.
>The actual messages are sent out with no problem.  99% of my
>people use Netscape mail.

http://www.eudora.com/qpopper/faq.html#netscape.auth answers this question.


--
Michael Keating     (626)696-4356
La Salle High School
3880 E. Sierra Madre Blvd.
Pasadena, CA 91107-1996


Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 12:15:52 -0500
From: "Julian Y. Koh" <kohster at mac dot com>
Subject: Re: APOP authentication

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>hello -
>
>I have been thinking about the advantages of APOP authentication for my
>email users, but not all of them have clients capable of APOP.  If you
>compile qpopper with APOP enabled, does that mean that EVERYONE has to
>use  APOP? Or can some users authenticate with APOP, and others use
>regular,
>unencrypted passwords?

Only users who are in the APOP database use APOP.  The rest use cleartext
passwords.

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Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 10:14:43 -0700
From: "Joel B. Laing" <joel at scripps dot edu>
Subject: Re: Another New QPOP user

Mark Weisman wrote:
> 
> I have recently assembled my QPopper3.0.2 server on a 6.2.1 Red Hat box, and
> although I can pick up mail with "pine", the mail is not being recognized by
> the QPopper server. How can I point it back to the QPopper software. I used
> the configuration below during my compile, and yet, pine is receiving the
> mail, and QPopper isn't. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> God Bless,
> Mark
> 
> PGP FingerPrint
> D7AC 8101 D339 CBEF D0D9 AB50 0CB4 EA00 7DA4 BB6B
> 
> ./configure --enable-specialauth --enable-servermode --enable-log-login --en
> able-home-dir-mail=.mail --enable-hash-spool=1 --enable-apop=/etc/pop.auth -
> -with-popuid=pop

I may be wrong, but seems that enable-home-dir-mail and
enable-hash-spool would conflict. Where is the local delivery agent
putting the mail? A default RedHat install delivers to /var/spool/mail.
Have you tweaked the delivery agent? 
-Joel

Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 09:49:11 -0700
From: "Joel B. Laing" <joel at scripps dot edu>
Subject: Re: APOP authentication

Eric Lobenstine wrote:
> 
> hello -
> 
> I have been thinking about the advantages of APOP authentication for my
> email users, but not all of them have clients capable of APOP.  If you
> compile qpopper with APOP enabled, does that mean that EVERYONE has to use
> APOP? Or can some users authenticate with APOP, and others use regular,
> unencrypted passwords?
> 
> cheers!
> 
> Eric Lobenstine
> 
> Eric Lobenstine, Ph.D.                  elob at chem.chem.rochester dot edu
> Manager of Computers and Network        (716)275-0340
> Chemistry Department                    (716)473-6889 (FAX)
> University of Rochester
> Rochester, NY 14627-0216

Check the INSTALL file. The capability is there on the command line. -p2
I believe will allow both. The problem is, what do you win if you allow
both? It only takes one sniffed passwd to compromise your network. I'm
setting things up to allow both types of authentication on site (we're
switched and basically trust our users)and only apop from off site. (or
ssh etc... but apop is easier for the users)
 
On a side note, does anybody know if Netscape has plans to support apop
in their mail tool? How about Eudora for linux/unix?

-Joel

From: Mark Weisman <mweisman at gci dot com>
Subject: RE: Another New QPOP user
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 09:36:56 -0800 

The mail is actually going into the spool at /var/spool/mail/username. 

Thank you,
Mark Weisman
MIS Programmer
GCI Local Services


-----Original Message-----
From: joel at scripps dot edu [mailto:joel at scripps dot edu]
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 9:15 AM
To: Mark Weisman
Cc: Subscribers of Qpopper
Subject: Re: Another New QPOP user


Mark Weisman wrote:
> 
> I have recently assembled my QPopper3.0.2 server on a 6.2.1 Red Hat box,
and
> although I can pick up mail with "pine", the mail is not being recognized
by
> the QPopper server. How can I point it back to the QPopper software. I
used
> the configuration below during my compile, and yet, pine is receiving the
> mail, and QPopper isn't. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> God Bless,
> Mark
> 
> PGP FingerPrint
> D7AC 8101 D339 CBEF D0D9 AB50 0CB4 EA00 7DA4 BB6B
> 
> ./configure --enable-specialauth --enable-servermode --enable-log-login
--en
> able-home-dir-mail=.mail --enable-hash-spool=1 --enable-apop=/etc/pop.auth
-
> -with-popuid=pop

I may be wrong, but seems that enable-home-dir-mail and
enable-hash-spool would conflict. Where is the local delivery agent
putting the mail? A default RedHat install delivers to /var/spool/mail.
Have you tweaked the delivery agent? 
-Joel

Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 10:43:34 -0700
From: "Joel B. Laing" <joel at scripps dot edu>
Subject: Re: Another New QPOP user

Mark Weisman wrote:
> 
> The mail is actually going into the spool at /var/spool/mail/username.
> 

That's the problem. Get rid of the home-dir and hash-spool and all
should be right. 

> Thank you,
> Mark Weisman
> MIS Programmer
> GCI Local Services
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: joel at scripps dot edu [mailto:joel at scripps dot edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 9:15 AM
> To: Mark Weisman
> Cc: Subscribers of Qpopper
> Subject: Re: Another New QPOP user
> 
> Mark Weisman wrote:
> >
> > I have recently assembled my QPopper3.0.2 server on a 6.2.1 Red Hat box,
> and
> > although I can pick up mail with "pine", the mail is not being recognized
> by
> > the QPopper server. How can I point it back to the QPopper software. I
> used
> > the configuration below during my compile, and yet, pine is receiving the
> > mail, and QPopper isn't. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > God Bless,
> > Mark
> >
> > PGP FingerPrint
> > D7AC 8101 D339 CBEF D0D9 AB50 0CB4 EA00 7DA4 BB6B
> >
> > ./configure --enable-specialauth --enable-servermode --enable-log-login
> --en
> > able-home-dir-mail=.mail --enable-hash-spool=1 --enable-apop=/etc/pop.auth
> -
> > -with-popuid=pop
> 
> I may be wrong, but seems that enable-home-dir-mail and
> enable-hash-spool would conflict. Where is the local delivery agent
> putting the mail? A default RedHat install delivers to /var/spool/mail.
> Have you tweaked the delivery agent?
> -Joel

From: Frank Pineau <frank at pineaus dot com>
Subject: Re: APOP authentication
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 13:43:27 -0400

On Tue, 3 Oct 2000 12:15:52 -0500, a data storm erupted from "Julian Y. Koh"
<kohster at mac dot com>: 

>Only users who are in the APOP database use APOP.  The rest use cleartext
>passwords.


Additionally, QPopper can be compiled to let APOP users authenticate with or
without APOP.  This is useful for me when I'm not at a computer with an APOP
mail client.  I can still pop my mail without taking myself out of the APOP
database.

FP


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Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 20:32:17 -0400
From: Jack Sasportas <jack at innovativeinternet dot com>
Subject: Qpopper / Postfix / MySQL Help Wanted!

I am looking to setup Qpopper on RedHat, and use MySQL users instead of linux
users.  I would like to be able to support multiple bob pop accounts per say, so
probably will use maildir.  I would like to use Postfix as the MTA.
I also want to have a configuration file that allows me to easily modify things
like minimum pop times, and have it notify users who are poping to check email
every 30 seconds instead of lets say every 4 minutes.

I am of course open to suggestions.

I am looking for someone who has set this up before in this manner and has it
working perfectly with a decent amount of domains, and users, of course am willing
to pay for your services.

Besides what is described, the ability to setup & config postfix, procmail, some
mailing list manager like ezmlm or major domo, and any other mail features you can
think of will be very helpful.

Finally a small amount of training to ensure I understand how the whole thing
works.

Please contact me off list...

Thanks...
PS if this is not you, but you know someone who can do this I would appreciate you
forwarding them this information.


___________________________________________________________
Jack Sasportas
Innovative Internet Solutions
Phone 305.665.2500
Fax 305.665.2551
www.innovativeinternet.com
www.web56.net



From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 20:18:13 -0700
Subject: Re: "ERR - Unknown command: "xsender"  message in syslog file

On Tue, 03 Oct 2000 08:43:49 -0700, Michael Keating wrote:

>At 08:03 AM 10/3/00 -0500, Mary Vitkus wrote:
>>I was wondering what I could do to eliminate the
>>ERR - Unknown command: "xsender"  message that is reapeated
>>all day long in my syslog file.
>http://www.eudora.com/qpopper/faq.html#netscape.auth answers this question.

The link in the Eudora FAQ to Netscape is now broken. A bit of
searching on Google turned 
this:

http://developer.netscape.com/docs/manuals/messaging/msdk_j/JavaRef/POP3
/netscape.messaging.pop3.POP3Client.html#xSender(int)

If I interpret this correctly, it probably wouldn't be much work to
have qpopper simply return the sender address for the requested
message. What does Netscape use this for?

Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
http://www.harrybrowne2000.org/



Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 22:43:43 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: New QPOP user

At 1:42 PM +0700 10/3/00, Dapid Candra wrote:

>  -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>  Hash: SHA1
>
>  Hi all,
>
>  I am a new qpopper user. I have download and installed qpopper 3.1b11 using
>  RPM on RedHat 6.2.
>
>  Since installing via RPM is too simple, I am confuse on how to configure
>  qpopper daemons and APOP database.
>  My first try results: (in Eudora style)
>
>  There has been an error transferring your mail. I said: APOP <shhhh! Don't
>  tell anyone.> and then POP server (dapidc at mail.hargagrosir dot com) said:  ERR
>  [SYS/TEMP] POP authentication DB not available (user dapidc): No such file
>  or directory(2).

This sounds like you didn't create the APOP database (using popauth), 
or the configuration is inconsistent.

>
>  While I am browsing through the mailing-list archive, can anyone give me
>  advice about the error?
>
>  I am planning to configure the mail server as secure as possible, probably
>  using APOP or tunneling via SSL. Which method is  most secure? I don't care
>  about the client's software, they have to do as I say or they may not use
>  my mail server.

Depends what you mean by "most secure".  APOP avoids sending the 
password (instead sending proof that the user knows it), but does not 
encrypt the actual mail.  SSL encrypts everything, but (assuming 
USER/PASS is used with it, as is usual) does send the actual password 
to the server, so if the client is talking to an untrustworthy 
server, that server now knows the user name and password.


Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 23:01:07 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Content Length problems

At 11:06 AM -0500 10/3/00, Rob Hines Jr. wrote:

>  I am running qmail on a Solaris 8 system, and have had no problems with
>  mail delivery or retrieval at all, other than periodic instances of
>  messages becoming appended to the previous message. I was told this was
>  a Content_Length header problem in qpopper and wonder if anyone knows of
>  a concrete fix for it. I am running qpopper v3.0.2 currently.
>
>  Rob

This is normally a problem with the delivery agent.  I believe the 
latest mail.local from Sun should address this.  If you find specific 
messages that cause mail.local to create an incorrect Content-Length 
header, please let me know.

From: "Judy Duffy" <judy at webalchemy dot net>
Subject: switching servers causes queue re-reads
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 23:15:15 -0700

Using qpopper 3.0, on Linux 6.0 with sendmail 8.10.1...

Had to swap in a different Linux server (it had a different IP address, we
simply updated DNS with the revised IP so as to minimize impact to clients).
I had tar-ed the /var/spool/mail queue files, and untarred, taking care to
preserve the file dates & owners on the queue files.  Problem was, after we
put in the new servers, all the mail in each queue got re-read by our
clients who primarily use Outlook.  This was not user-friendly, resulting in
duplicate message appearing for the mail users...  Short of telling clients
to clean out their queues, any suggestions on how to avoid the issue?

Judy Duffy

--------------------------------------
Judy Duffy (judy at webalchemy dot net)
Principal Engineer, Web Alchemy (www.webalchemy.net)
764 Anacapa Court
Milpitas, CA  95035
Office: (408) 262-7346
Cell:   (408) 234-5204
--------------------------------------


Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 09:05:34 -0500
From: "Rob Hines Jr." <rhines at joboptions dot com>
Subject: Re: Content Length problems

I'm using qmail 1.03 as my MTA, is there a way to fudge the
content_length header so that qpopper reads it as content_length-1? The
value, so far as I can tell is only one byte off. I tried disabling
content_length support in the compile, and that seemed to have no
effect.

mail.local is specific to sendmail so far as I understand that file's
function.

Please let me know if you have any ideas.

Rob


BTW Randall, I tried to mail you directly twice, and got rejects both
times, this is the second:

<randy at qualcomm dot com>:
199.106.114.68 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 551 551 Email prohibited from your location.Please
contact postmaster at qualcomm dot com for more information.
Giving up on 199.106.114.68.

R.

Randall Gellens wrote:

> At 11:06 AM -0500 10/3/00, Rob Hines Jr. wrote:
>
> >  I am running qmail on a Solaris 8 system, and have had no problems with
> >  mail delivery or retrieval at all, other than periodic instances of
> >  messages becoming appended to the previous message. I was told this was
> >  a Content_Length header problem in qpopper and wonder if anyone knows of
> >  a concrete fix for it. I am running qpopper v3.0.2 currently.
> >
> >  Rob
>
> This is normally a problem with the delivery agent.  I believe the
> latest mail.local from Sun should address this.  If you find specific
> messages that cause mail.local to create an incorrect Content-Length
> header, please let me know.

--
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System Administrator

Phone:  (317)469-4535
Fax:  (317)469-4508
Email: sysadmin at joboptions dot com
URL: http://www.joboptions.com

Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 10:52:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jeff Earickson <jaearick at colby dot edu>
Subject: 3.1b12: configure broken bigtime

Yo Qpopper gang,

The addition of the following lines in configure.in:

dnl
dnl ---------- Make sure /usr/local/include gets searched ----------
dnl

CFLAGS="$CFLAGS -idirafter /usr/local/include"
CPPFLAGS="$CPPFLAGS -idirafter /usr/local/include"

has broken configuration for non-gcc compilers in a big way.  When I 
just do "./configure" (let it use gcc), the configure step works fine.
If I specify another compiler (eg, CC=cc ./configure) then the configure
step basically doesn't find any of the necessary include files, computes
the size of an unsigned long int as zero, etc, etc.  Then the compile
bombs right away.  When I comment out the two lines above and autoconf,
things start working.

** Jeff A. Earickson, Ph.D                         PHONE: 207-872-3659
** Senior UNIX Sysadmin, Information Technology    EMAIL: jaearick at colby dot edu
** Colby College, 4214 Mayflower Hill,               FAX: 207-872-3555
** Waterville ME, 04901-8842
----------------------------------------------------------------------------


Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 12:52:36 -0700
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Qpopper 3.1fc1 available

Qpopper 3.1fc1 is available at 
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/>.

A somewhat abbreviated change list is on the Qpopper web site at 
<http://www.qpopper.org/changelist.html>

The full list of changes from one release to the next is on the FTP 
site, at 
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/beta/Changes>.

The 3.1 release notes are at: 
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/beta/Release.Notes>.


Changes from 3.1b12 to 3.1fc1
-----------------------------

  1.  Allow Content-Length: header to be CONTLEN_FUZZ too big.
  2.  Only add 'idirafter' when using gcc.

From: "InvictaNet Customer Support" <support at invictanet.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Qpopper 3.1fc1 available
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 13:04:09 +0100

What does fc mean?

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-----Original Message-----
From: Qpopper Support [mailto:qpopper at qualcomm dot com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 8:53 PM
To: Qpopper Public List; qpopper-announce at rohan.qualcomm dot com
Cc: qpopper at qualcomm dot com
Subject: Qpopper 3.1fc1 available


Qpopper 3.1fc1 is available at 
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/>.

A somewhat abbreviated change list is on the Qpopper web site at 
<http://www.qpopper.org/changelist.html>

The full list of changes from one release to the next is on the FTP 
site, at 
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/beta/Changes>.

The 3.1 release notes are at: 
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/beta/Release.Notes>.


Changes from 3.1b12 to 3.1fc1
-----------------------------

  1.  Allow Content-Length: header to be CONTLEN_FUZZ too big.
  2.  Only add 'idirafter' when using gcc.


From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 05:28:31 -0700
Subject: RE: Qpopper 3.1fc1 available

On Thu, 5 Oct 2000 13:04:09 +0100, InvictaNet Customer Support wrote:

>What does fc mean?

Final Candidate. Kind of a gamma release.

Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
http://www.harrybrowne2000.org/



Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 10:32:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: Admin Mailing Lists <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
Subject: Re: looking for info as to where..

thanx much to everyone, for their responses on this

-Tony
.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
Anthony J. Biacco                       Network Administrator/Engineer
thelittleprince at asteroid-b612 dot org       Intergrafix Internet Services

    "Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today"
http://www.asteroid-b612.org                http://www.intergrafix.net
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On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, Randall Gellens wrote:

> At 9:14 AM -0400 10/2/00, Admin Mailing Lists wrote:
> 
> >  Hi,
> >
> >  I've been starting to write a log parser for the popper log for our tech
> >  support people. Putting certain things from the log into HTML tables per
> >  day, etc.. so far i'm picking out bad logins, good logins (but only after
> >  a bad login), pop timeouts, pop hangups, and pop lock busies.
> >  Anyway, i was pulling out the good logins by the lines containing "Stats:"
> >  but i dont know if this is correct? Does this take place at login or after
> >  all interaction is done with the user? If it's at login i guess it's stats
> >  of msgs that WILL be deleted/WILL be kept, and if it's AFTER, it's msgs
> >  that WERE deleted/WERE kept. It sounds more plausible that it would be
> >  after interaction, but the timestamps just dont seem right..maybe i'm
> >  reading it wrong.
> 
> The 'stats' line is written at the end of the session.  If you want 
> to log th start of a session, use '--enable-log-login', which causes 
> Qpopper to write a log entry when a user authenticates.
> 
> >  Lastly, any debug lines you think would be helpful to my people that
> >  i should include in the logfile? I really dont want to enable ALL
> >  debugging, because the logfile gets REALLY huge and 1/2 of the stuff i
> >  dont need. So if i could just select a choice few entries, that would be
> >  fine. i dont care if i have to change the specific DEBUG_LOG's to
> >  pop_msg's
> >  Definately lastly, what exactly does the pop timeout and pop hangup
> >  messages represent. I was hoping when the user cancelled the message
> >  download, that's when the hangup messages came up
> 
> Timeout means no input was received from the client within the 
> timeout period, while hangup means the connection closed without the 
> client sending QUIT, which could mean the user cancelled the 
> download, or the connection was dropped, or the client machine 
> crashed, or there was a network problem somewhere, or....
> 
> >
> >  I'm running 3.0.1 on linux with:
> >  --enable-servermode --enable-specialauth --enable-hash-spool=2 --ena
> >  ble-temp-drop-dir=/usr/tmp/.pop
> >
> >  Thanx,
> >
> >  -Tony
> >  .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
> >  Anthony J. Biacco                       Network Administrator/Engineer
> >  thelittleprince at asteroid-b612 dot org       Intergrafix Internet Services
> >
> >      "Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today"
> >  http://www.asteroid-b612.org                http://www.intergrafix.net
> >  .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
> 
> 


From: "Kor Kiley" <Kor.Kiley at uvm dot edu>
Subject: Installing Qpopper 3.0.2 On Red Hat Linux 7.0
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 08:45:46 -0400

Can anyone help me out installing Qpopper 3.0.2 on Red Hat Linux 7.0.  I've
installed on other versions of Red Hat Linux with no problems.  The problem
now is that with 7.0, inetd has changed to xinetd and the system of
configuration has changed as well.  What I tried (and it doesn't seem to
work) is to create a file in /etc/xinetd.d called pop3 with the following:

# default: on
# Pop3 Service
service pop3
{
	socket_type = stream
	wait		= no
	user		= root
	server	= /usr/local/lib/popper qpopper -s
}

this corresponds to the line which was previously in inetd.conf:

pop3	stream tcp nowait root /usr/local/lib/popper qpopper -s

This looks like it should work.  Does anyone have more knowledge on the
subject?

Kor Kiley
Bailey/Howe Library Systems
University of Vermont
Burlington, VT 05405


From: "Hummel, Timo" <timo.hummel at sap dot com>
Subject: Subscription error
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 15:27:28 +0200 

Hi,

the user thummel at junior-net dot de seems to have a forward to my E-Mail-Address.
Could someone please remove him, so I don't get these mails anymore?

Thanks
Timo



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From: "Kor Kiley" <Kor.Kiley at uvm dot edu>
To: qpopper at lists.pensive dot org (Subscribers of Qpopper)
Subject: Installing Qpopper 3.0.2 On Red Hat Linux 7.0
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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 14:25:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: James Ralston <qralston+ml.qpopper at andrew.cmu dot edu>
Subject: Re: Installing Qpopper 3.0.2 On Red Hat Linux 7.0

On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Kor Kiley wrote:

> Can anyone help me out installing Qpopper 3.0.2 on Red Hat Linux
> 7.0.  [...]  What I tried (and it doesn't seem to work) is to create
> a file in /etc/xinetd.d called pop3 with the following:

> # default: on
> # Pop3 Service
> service pop3
> {
>         socket_type = stream
>         wait            = no
>         user            = root
>         server  = /usr/local/lib/popper qpopper -s
> }

This is what you want:

    # default: on
    # Pop3 Service
    service pop3
    {
            flags           = NAMEINARGS REUSE
            socket_type     = stream
            wait            = no
            user            = root
            server          = /usr/local/lib/popper
            server_args     = qpopper -s
            disable         = no
    }

This is all clearly spelled out in the thorough man page for
xinetd.conf(5).

Note that chkconfig(8) knows how to handle the files in /etc/xinetd.d,
so once you've created the entry, you should use chkconfig to
enable/disable qpopper, instead of editing /etc/xinetd.conf/pop3
directly.

-- 
James Ralston, Information Technology
Software Engineering Institute
Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh, PA, USA


Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 12:04:42 -0700
From: Leonard Hermens <Leonard.Hermens at rcity dot com>
Subject: --enable-timing ??

I missed something. What should I see in the logs when I set --enable-timing?

  ./configure --enable-servermode --enable-uw-kludge --enable-timing

Log looks the same, AFAIK:

Oct  6 12:00:32 host popper[29206]: Stats: userid 0 0 0 0 userdns.potlatchcorp.com 10.10.10.10

What tidbit have I missed?

Platform: Solaris 2.7 Sparc

-- Leonard


Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 15:26:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jeff Earickson <jaearick at colby dot edu>
Subject: Re: --enable-timing ??

Hi,

   You should see lines in your syslog that something like:

Oct  6 00:04:25 onyx popper[3332]: (v3.2fc1-DCE) Timing for sklee at colby dot edu \
(normal) auth=2 init=0 clean=0 [popper.c:311]

This get written out at the end of the POP session for the person.

** Jeff A. Earickson, Ph.D                         PHONE: 207-872-3659
** Senior UNIX Sysadmin, Information Technology    EMAIL: jaearick at colby dot edu
** Colby College, 4214 Mayflower Hill,               FAX: 207-872-3555
** Waterville ME, 04901-8842
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Leonard Hermens wrote:

> Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 12:04:42 -0700
> From: Leonard Hermens <Leonard.Hermens at rcity dot com>
> To: Subscribers of Qpopper <qpopper at lists.pensive dot org>
> Subject: --enable-timing ??
> 
> I missed something. What should I see in the logs when I set --enable-timing?
> 
>   ./configure --enable-servermode --enable-uw-kludge --enable-timing
> 
> Log looks the same, AFAIK:
> 
> Oct  6 12:00:32 host popper[29206]: Stats: userid 0 0 0 0 userdns.potlatchcorp.com 10.10.10.10
> 
> What tidbit have I missed?
> 
> Platform: Solaris 2.7 Sparc
> 
> -- Leonard
> 


Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 14:05:02 -0700
From: Leonard Hermens <Leonard.Hermens at rcity dot com>
Subject: Re: --enable-timing ??

Hi,

So I don't see them. I am logging as follows from /etc/syslog.conf:

# POP3 service (qpopper)
local0.notice   /var/log/POPlog

Do I need to log at a different level to see the timing output? I don't see 
the timing in either syslog or in the /var/log/POPlog I have set up.

Hmmm. Any ideas?

-- Leonard

At 12:26 PM 10/6/2000, Jeff Earickson wrote:
>Hi,
>
>    You should see lines in your syslog that something like:
>
>Oct  6 00:04:25 onyx popper[3332]: (v3.2fc1-DCE) Timing for sklee at colby dot edu \
>(normal) auth=2 init=0 clean=0 [popper.c:311]
>
>This get written out at the end of the POP session for the person.
>
>** Jeff A. Earickson, Ph.D                         PHONE: 207-872-3659
>** Senior UNIX Sysadmin, Information Technology    EMAIL: jaearick at colby dot edu
>** Colby College, 4214 Mayflower Hill,               FAX: 207-872-3555
>** Waterville ME, 04901-8842
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Leonard Hermens wrote:
>
> > Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 12:04:42 -0700
> > From: Leonard Hermens <Leonard.Hermens at rcity dot com>
> > To: Subscribers of Qpopper <qpopper at lists.pensive dot org>
> > Subject: --enable-timing ??
> >
> > I missed something. What should I see in the logs when I set 
> --enable-timing?
> >
> >   ./configure --enable-servermode --enable-uw-kludge --enable-timing
> >
> > Log looks the same, AFAIK:
> >
> > Oct  6 12:00:32 host popper[29206]: Stats: userid 0 0 0 0 
> userdns.potlatchcorp.com 10.10.10.10
> >
> > What tidbit have I missed?
> >
> > Platform: Solaris 2.7 Sparc
> >
> > -- Leonard
> >


Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 19:20:31 -0700
From: Leonard Hermens <Leonard.Hermens at rcity dot com>
Subject: Re: --enable-timing ??

Thanks! For me, local0.info is what I needed.

-- Leonard

At 07:13 PM 10/6/2000, you wrote:
>My syslog line is:
>
>*.info                  /var/adm/syslog/0
>
>** Jeff A. Earickson, Ph.D
>
>On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Leonard Hermens wrote:
>
> > Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 14:05:02 -0700
> > From: Leonard Hermens <Leonard.Hermens at rcity dot com>
> > To: Jeff Earickson <jaearick at colby dot edu>
> > Cc: Subscribers of Qpopper <qpopper at lists.pensive dot org>
> > Subject: Re: --enable-timing ??
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > So I don't see them. I am logging as follows from /etc/syslog.conf:
> >
> > # POP3 service (qpopper)
> > local0.notice   /var/log/POPlog
> >
> > Do I need to log at a different level to see the timing output? I don't 
> see
> > the timing in either syslog or in the /var/log/POPlog I have set up.
> >
> > Hmmm. Any ideas?
> >
> > -- Leonard
> >
> > At 12:26 PM 10/6/2000, Jeff Earickson wrote:
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >    You should see lines in your syslog that something like:
> > >
> > >Oct  6 00:04:25 onyx popper[3332]: (v3.2fc1-DCE) Timing for 
> sklee at colby dot edu \
> > >(normal) auth=2 init=0 clean=0 [popper.c:311]
> > >
> > >This get written out at the end of the POP session for the person.
> > >
> > >** Jeff A. Earickson, Ph.D                         PHONE: 207-872-3659
> > >** Senior UNIX Sysadmin, Information Technology    EMAIL: 
> jaearick at colby dot edu
> > >** Colby College, 4214 Mayflower Hill,               FAX: 207-872-3555
> > >** Waterville ME, 04901-8842
> > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> -----
> > >
> > >On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Leonard Hermens wrote:
> > >
> > > > Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 12:04:42 -0700
> > > > From: Leonard Hermens <Leonard.Hermens at rcity dot com>
> > > > To: Subscribers of Qpopper <qpopper at lists.pensive dot org>
> > > > Subject: --enable-timing ??
> > > >
> > > > I missed something. What should I see in the logs when I set
> > > --enable-timing?
> > > >
> > > >   ./configure --enable-servermode --enable-uw-kludge --enable-timing
> > > >
> > > > Log looks the same, AFAIK:
> > > >
> > > > Oct  6 12:00:32 host popper[29206]: Stats: userid 0 0 0 0
> > > userdns.potlatchcorp.com 10.10.10.10
> > > >
> > > > What tidbit have I missed?
> > > >
> > > > Platform: Solaris 2.7 Sparc
> > > >
> > > > -- Leonard
> > > >
> >


Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 13:03:43 -0700
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Qpopper 3.1 (final) available

Qpopper 3.1 (final) is available at 
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/>.

A somewhat abbreviated change list is on the Qpopper web site at 
<http://www.qpopper.org/changelist.html>

The full list of changes from one release to the next is on the FTP 
site, at 
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/beta/Changes>.

The 3.1 release notes are at: 
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/beta/Release.Notes>.

From: "Nuno Teixeira" <nuno.teixeira at pt-quorum dot com>
Subject: QPopper 3.1: Drac suport VS Sendmail SMTP AUTH
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 00:34:24 +0100

Hello to all,

I have Sendmail 8.9.3 installed and this version does not have the new SMTP
AUTH feature included.

My doubt is: what is the best and secure way to permit relay wth authnticate
with pop first?  Upgrade my sendmail to the last version and use SMTP AUTH
or should I install DRAC and activated QPopper 3.1 DRAC feature?

Thanks very much,

Nuno Teixeira


Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:41:15 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: QPopper 3.1: Drac suport VS Sendmail SMTP AUTH

On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Nuno Teixeira wrote:

> My doubt is: what is the best and secure way to permit relay wth authnticate
> with pop first?  Upgrade my sendmail to the last version and use SMTP AUTH
> or should I install DRAC and activated QPopper 3.1 DRAC feature?

IMHO, Both.

SMTP AUTH will take care of most new mail clients and DRAC will handle
the older ones, which means you should be able to keep security high
while still allowing 98% of your current users to relay while roaming.

The only users who would have trouble given SMTP AUTH _and_ DRAC (or ny
other pop-before-smtp solution) are those which don't support SMTP AUTH
and which try SMTP delivery before POP3 collection.

AB


Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:02:09 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: QPopper 3.1: Drac suport VS Sendmail SMTP AUTH

At 12:34 AM +0100 10/10/00, Nuno Teixeira wrote:

>  Hello to all,
>
>  I have Sendmail 8.9.3 installed and this version does not have the new SMTP
>  AUTH feature included.
>
>  My doubt is: what is the best and secure way to permit relay wth authnticate
>  with pop first?  Upgrade my sendmail to the last version and use SMTP AUTH
>  or should I install DRAC and activated QPopper 3.1 DRAC feature?
>
>  Thanks very much,
>
>  Nuno Teixeira

SMTP AUTH is the standards-based approach and does not rely on IP 
addresses, which makes it harder to spoof, and more flexible for 
your users.  While most of the popular current email clients 
support it, not all clients do.  Therefore, you might want to do 
both.
-- 
Randall Gellens
Opinions are personal;    facts are suspect;    I speak for myself only
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Advertising is 85 percent confusion and 15 percent commission.
                                                 --Fred Allen

Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:13:34 +0700
From: Dapid Candra <dapidc at cbn.net dot id>
Subject: Web based e-mail utility

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Hi all,

This question may be out of topics, but I do not know where else to ask...

I need web-based interface for changing user password in unix environment.
Or is there any way a user can change password if he/she can not log in to 
the machine?
All users is assigned as popusers with /bin/false shell, except a few user 
that has administrative tasks.

do you know where to find that kind of utility?

Thanks.
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From: "Wodecki, Wiktor" <Wodecki at wapme-systems dot de>
Subject: Re: Web based e-mail utility
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:32:51 +0200

	>>I need web-based interface for changing user password in unix
environment.
	>>Or is there any way a user can change password if he/she can not
log in to 
	>>the machine?
	>>All users is assigned as popusers with /bin/false shell, except a
few user 
	>>that has administrative tasks.


take a look at www.freshmeat.net....this is the qualcomm popper
mailinglist..nothin to do with web based stuff.

	Regards,

	Wiktor Wodecki 

From: "Wodecki, Wiktor" <Wodecki at wapme-systems dot de>
Subject: AW: Web based e-mail utility
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:57:02 +0200

	>>I need web-based interface for changing user password in unix
	environment.
		>>Or is there any way a user can change password if he/she
can not
	log in to 
		>>the machine?
		>>All users is assigned as popusers with /bin/false shell,
except a
	few user 
		>>that has administrative tasks.


damn, sorry for the format....I'm forced to use outlook on my workstation

	Wiktor