The qpopper list archive ending on 2 Jul 2003
Topics covered in this issue include:
1. 3.1 errors related to unresponsiveness?
qpopper at snixthecat dot com
Thu, 29 May 2003 18:01:56 GMT
2. Re: 3.1 errors related to unresponsiveness?
Clifton Royston <cliftonr at lava dot net>
Thu, 29 May 2003 09:04:17 -1000
3. Re: 3.1 errors related to unresponsiveness?
Clifton Royston <cliftonr at lava dot net>
Thu, 29 May 2003 09:55:25 -1000
4. POP Administration Utilities to deal with mailbox size
"Jeremy Fitz" <jeremyfitz at hotmail dot com>
Fri, 30 May 2003 12:21:02 -0400
5. Re: POP Administration Utilities to deal with mailbox size
Chip Old <fold at bcpl dot net>
Fri, 30 May 2003 16:49:41 -0400 (EDT)
6. Re: POP Administration Utilities to deal with mailbox size
Paul Carpenter <paul at dodgenet dot com>
Sat, 31 May 2003 10:17:27 -0500
7. Proble with qpopper and virtual IP addresses
"McGraw, Robert P." <rmcgraw at purdue dot edu>
Thu, 5 Jun 2003 14:56:09 -0500
8. Re: Proble with qpopper and virtual IP addresses
The Little Prince <thelittleprince at asteroid-b612 dot org>
Thu, 5 Jun 2003 13:22:12 -0700 (PDT)
9. Re: Proble with qpopper and virtual IP addresses
Kenneth Porter <shiva at sewingwitch dot com>
Thu, 05 Jun 2003 13:55:29 -0700
10. Re: Proble with qpopper and virtual IP addresses
Alan Brown <alanb at digistar dot com>
Thu, 5 Jun 2003 17:25:01 -0400 (EDT)
11. Re: POP Administration Utilities to deal with mailbox size
Chuck Yerkes <chuck+qpopper at yerkes dot com>
Thu, 5 Jun 2003 19:04:02 -0400
12. Re: Proble with qpopper and virtual IP addresses
The Little Prince <thelittleprince at asteroid-b612 dot org>
Thu, 5 Jun 2003 16:05:13 -0700 (PDT)
13. NEWQUESTION - Problem with qpopper and virtual IP addresses
"McGraw, Robert P." <rmcgraw at purdue dot edu>
Fri, 6 Jun 2003 08:34:28 -0500
14. Re: NEWQUESTION - Problem with qpopper and virtual IP addresses
The Little Prince <thelittleprince at asteroid-b612 dot org>
Fri, 6 Jun 2003 06:47:06 -0700 (PDT)
15. Re: POP Administration Utilities to deal with mailbox size
Paul Carpenter <paul at dodgenet dot com>
Fri, 6 Jun 2003 09:00:52 -0500
16. FW: NEWQUESTION - Problem with qpopper and virtual IP addresses
"McGraw, Robert P." <rmcgraw at purdue dot edu>
Fri, 6 Jun 2003 08:44:10 -0500
17. RE: NEWQUESTION - Problem with qpopper and virtual IP addresses
"McGraw, Robert P." <rmcgraw at purdue dot edu>
Fri, 6 Jun 2003 10:49:07 -0500
18. Re: NEWQUESTION - Problem with qpopper and virtual IP addresses
John Rudd <jrudd at ucsc dot edu>
Sun, 8 Jun 2003 11:15:53 -0700
19. Installation - fail to telnet
=?iso-8859-1?q?Aqil?= <aq1l at yahoo dot fr>
Tue, 10 Jun 2003 14:07:53 +0200 (CEST)
20. Re: Installation - fail to telnet
chort <chort at amaunetsgothique dot com>
Tue, 10 Jun 2003 08:58:14 -0700 (PDT)
21. Next - Authentication
=?iso-8859-1?q?Aqil?= <aq1l at yahoo dot fr>
Wed, 11 Jun 2003 07:46:07 +0200 (CEST)
22. Re: Next - Authentication
chort <chort at amaunetsgothique dot com>
Tue, 10 Jun 2003 23:28:29 -0700 (PDT)
23. Re: Next - Authentication
=?iso-8859-1?q?Aqil?= <aq1l at yahoo dot fr>
Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:42:02 +0200 (CEST)
24. Re: Security Vulnerability in Poppassd
Mike Tancsa <mike at sentex dot net>
Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:49:34 -0400
25. Re: Security Vulnerability in Poppassd
Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Thu, 12 Jun 2003 17:04:19 -0400
26. Re: Security Vulnerability in Poppassd
Chuck Yerkes <chuck+qpopper at yerkes dot com>
Thu, 12 Jun 2003 20:11:48 -0400
27. Re: Security Vulnerability in Poppassd
Mike Tancsa <mike at sentex dot net>
Thu, 12 Jun 2003 21:17:06 -0400
28. Optimal configuration
Drew Weaver <drew.weaver at thenap dot com>
Mon, 16 Jun 2003 09:50:59 -0400
29. Re: Security Vulnerability in Poppassd
"Nicholas J. Santarelli" <nick at mortgagecorp dot com>
Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:21:31 -0400
30. Baffled by permissions problem
Jason Gurtz <jason at tommyk dot com>
Sat, 21 Jun 2003 18:22:02 -0400
31. Outlook XP timeout issue with 4.0.5
mwestern at sola.com dot au
Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:34:09 +0930
32. Re: Outlook XP timeout issue with 4.0.5
Jaume Obrador <obrador at espaiweb dot net>
24 Jun 2003 10:28:00 +0200
33. Upgraded but still having problems
qpopper at snixthecat dot com
Tue, 24 Jun 2003 14:07:43 GMT
34. RE: Upgraded but still having problems
Drew Weaver <drew.weaver at thenap dot com>
Tue, 24 Jun 2003 12:01:27 -0400
35. RE: Upgraded but still having problems
qpopper at snixthecat dot com
Tue, 24 Jun 2003 15:57:43 GMT
36. Expired test certificate problems.
"Ken Bradford" <ken at alpha2 dot com>
Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:33:37 -0400
37. RE: Upgraded but still having problems
The Little Prince <thelittleprince at asteroid-b612 dot org>
Tue, 24 Jun 2003 09:11:16 -0700 (PDT)
38. RE: Expired test certificate problems.
"Ken Bradford" <ken at alpha2 dot com>
Tue, 24 Jun 2003 13:55:57 -0400
39. RE: Outlook XP timeout issue with 4.0.5
mwestern at sola.com dot au
Wed, 25 Jun 2003 10:31:02 +0930
40. Re: Upgraded but still having problems
Chuck Yerkes <chuck+qpopper at yerkes dot com>
Wed, 25 Jun 2003 00:56:34 -0400
41. Re: Outlook XP timeout issue with 4.0.5
Chuck Yerkes <chuck+qpopper at yerkes dot com>
Wed, 25 Jun 2003 11:40:33 -0400
42. Re: Outlook XP timeout issue with 4.0.5
Ken Lalonde <ken at globalremittance dot com>
Wed, 25 Jun 2003 17:29:38 -0400 (EDT)
43. upgrade to OS X broke qpopper 4.04
Mark Crane <cranema at uvsc dot edu>
Thu, 26 Jun 2003 10:49:53 -0600 (MDT)
44. MUA not downloading mail in spool
"George Burdell" <burdell3 at hotmail dot com>
Thu, 26 Jun 2003 18:19:42 -0500
45. Re: Upgraded but still having problems
Simon Byrnand <simon at igrin.co dot nz>
Fri, 27 Jun 2003 11:17:27 +1200
46. weird problem after upgrading to qpopper
"Charley Morgan" <sunspec at megagate dot com>
Mon, 30 Jun 2003 09:22:18 -0500
47. Re: weird problem after upgrading to qpopper
mozzi <linux at mostert.nom dot za>
Wed, 2 Jul 2003 11:24:28 +0200
48. RE: weird problem after upgrading to qpopper
"Charley Morgan" <sunspec at megagate dot com>
Wed, 2 Jul 2003 09:19:32 -0500
49. Re: weird problem after upgrading to qpopper
Eric Luyten <Eric.Luyten at vub.ac dot be>
Wed, 2 Jul 2003 16:43:55 +0200 (MET DST)
50. Re: weird problem after upgrading to qpopper
peter at netlink.com dot au
Thu, 3 Jul 2003 00:51:48 +1000 (EST)
From: qpopper at snixthecat dot com
Subject: 3.1 errors related to unresponsiveness?
Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 18:01:56 GMT
Using qpopper 3.1.
I'm getting all sorts of errors in my logs referring to qpop.
[0] 29 (Illegal seek); 0 (Success)
-ERR POP EOF or I/O Error: 29 (Illegal seek); 0 (Success)
-ERR POP EOF or I/O Error: 2 (No such file or directory); 0 (Su
ccess)
These seem to be related to connection errors that the customers are seeing.
Most recently, the server has been becoming unresponsive when the Illegal seek
errors occur.
Thanks for any insught.
Mike
Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 09:04:17 -1000
From: Clifton Royston <cliftonr at lava dot net>
Subject: Re: 3.1 errors related to unresponsiveness?
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 06:01:56PM +0000, qpopper at snixthecat dot com wrote:
> Using qpopper 3.1.
That is incredibly ancient. I think there might be major remote
security holes in that release, though it's been so long I don't
remember.
> I'm getting all sorts of errors in my logs referring to qpop.
>
> [0] 29 (Illegal seek); 0 (Success)
> -ERR POP EOF or I/O Error: 29 (Illegal seek); 0 (Success)
>
> -ERR POP EOF or I/O Error: 2 (No such file or directory); 0 (Su
> ccess)
>
>
> These seem to be related to connection errors that the customers are seeing.
> Most recently, the server has been becoming unresponsive when the Illegal seek
> errors occur.
This sounds like the pop server could be under remote attack; it
would be a good idea to upgrade ASAP, if you haven't already been
rooted.
Upgrade to 4.0.5 and this will solve current known security issues
and many performance problems; if you still have problems then, bring
it back to the list and folks can be more helpful.
-- Clifton
--
Clifton Royston -- LavaNet Systems Architect -- cliftonr at lava dot net
"If you ride fast enough, the Specialist can't catch you."
"What's the Specialist?" Samantha says.
"The Specialist wears a hat," says the babysitter. "The hat makes noises."
She doesn't say anything else.
Kelly Link, _The Specialist's Hat_
Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 09:55:25 -1000
From: Clifton Royston <cliftonr at lava dot net>
Subject: Re: 3.1 errors related to unresponsiveness?
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 09:04:17AM -1000, Clifton Royston wrote:
> On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 06:01:56PM +0000, qpopper at snixthecat dot com wrote:
...
> > [0] 29 (Illegal seek); 0 (Success)
> > -ERR POP EOF or I/O Error: 29 (Illegal seek); 0 (Success)
> >
> > -ERR POP EOF or I/O Error: 2 (No such file or directory); 0 (Su
> > ccess)
> >
> >
> > These seem to be related to connection errors that the customers are seeing.
> > Most recently, the server has been becoming unresponsive when the Illegal seek
> > errors occur.
>
> This sounds like the pop server could be under remote attack; it
> would be a good idea to upgrade ASAP, if you haven't already been
> rooted.
BTW, this is pure speculation on my part; I have no idea what the
specific hallmarks of the past known attacks on 3.x were.
I don't want to scare you *too* much, just enough to make you upgrade
quickly. :-)
-- Clifton
--
Clifton Royston -- LavaNet Systems Architect -- cliftonr at lava dot net
"If you ride fast enough, the Specialist can't catch you."
"What's the Specialist?" Samantha says.
"The Specialist wears a hat," says the babysitter. "The hat makes noises."
She doesn't say anything else.
Kelly Link, _The Specialist's Hat_
From: "Jeremy Fitz" <jeremyfitz at hotmail dot com>
Subject: POP Administration Utilities to deal with mailbox size
Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 12:21:02 -0400
Hi:
Does anyone know of any tools or strategies to deal with POP mailboxes?
Specifically, I'm looking to contstrain the maximum size of a user's
mailbox, however other tools might include patching Qpopper to force "Delete
From Server", etc.
Just wondering wether there's a toolbox for POP Mailbox Admins.
Thanks
j
Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 16:49:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: Chip Old <fold at bcpl dot net>
Subject: Re: POP Administration Utilities to deal with mailbox size
On Fri, 30 May 2003 12:21 -0400, Jeremy Fitz wrote to Subscribers of Qpopper:
> Does anyone know of any tools or strategies to deal with POP mailboxes?
> Specifically, I'm looking to contstrain the maximum size of a user's
> mailbox, however other tools might include patching Qpopper to force
> "Delete From Server", etc.
If you want to force "Delete From Server", why not build qpopper with the
--enable-auto-delete option, or add auto-delete to your config file?
--
Chip Old (Francis E. Old) E-Mail: fold at bcpl dot net
Manager, BCPL Network Services Phone: 410-887-6180
Manager, BCPL.NET Internet Services FAX: 410-887-2091
320 York Road
Towson, MD 21204 USA
From: Paul Carpenter <paul at dodgenet dot com>
Subject: Re: POP Administration Utilities to deal with mailbox size
Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 10:17:27 -0500
The Exim MTA has the ability to limit mailbox sizes.
The garbmail program can scan a POP mailbox and delete mail that is older than
a specified age.
On Friday 30 May 2003 11:21 am, Jeremy Fitz wrote:
> Hi:
>
> Does anyone know of any tools or strategies to deal with POP mailboxes?
> Specifically, I'm looking to contstrain the maximum size of a user's
> mailbox, however other tools might include patching Qpopper to force
> "Delete From Server", etc.
>
> Just wondering wether there's a toolbox for POP Mailbox Admins.
>
> Thanks
> j
--
Paul Carpenter
paul at dodgenet dot com
DodgeNet, Inc.
From: "McGraw, Robert P." <rmcgraw at purdue dot edu>
Subject: Proble with qpopper and virtual IP addresses
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 14:56:09 -0500
I am having a problem running qpopper on a virtual host name.
1. Running qpopper 4.0.5
2. Running Solaris 5.9 on a Sun Netra
3. Have set up the following in the ifconfig.
le0 hostname.xxx.yyy.edu
le0:1 mailhost.xxx.yyy.edu
le0:2 pophost.xxx.yyy.edu
Problem:
I can "telnet pophost.xxx.yyy.edu 110" and connect to the pophost and go
through the test pop login. This connects and shows messages with the list
command.
If I use pophost.xxx.yyy.edu as the incoming server name in a mail reader,
such as exchange, it will not make a connection. I do not even see any debug
info in the log files. If I use hostname.xxx.yyy.edu in the mail reader it
will work just fine.
I can ping, telnet into, and nslookup on the virutal IP address so I
believe they are set up correctly working correctly
What would cause the virutal IP address not to work and the real IP to work
in a mail reader. It seems like it is getting confuse in the sending and
receiving of packets when it goes to the virtual IP address.
Any thoughts or suggestions on how to resolve this problem.
Thanks
_____________________________________________________________________
Robert P. McGraw, Jr.
System Administrator EMAIL1:
rmcgraw at purdue dot edu
Purdue University ROOM: MATH-807
Department of Mathematics PHONE: (765) 494-6055
150 N. University Avenue FAX: (419) 821-0540
West Lafayette, IN 47907-2067 EMAIL2: robert at mcgraw-jr dot com
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 13:22:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: The Little Prince <thelittleprince at asteroid-b612 dot org>
Subject: Re: Proble with qpopper and virtual IP addresses
On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, McGraw, Robert P. wrote:
>
> If I use pophost.xxx.yyy.edu as the incoming server name in a mail reader,
> such as exchange, it will not make a connection. I do not even see any debug
exchange is a mail server, not a mail reader.
outlook is a mail reader.
>
> I can ping, telnet into, and nslookup on the virutal IP address so I
> believe they are set up correctly working correctly
the same ip/host that's configured in your mail reader?
you can telnet into the ip/host on port 110 from the SAME machine that
the mail reader is on?
--Tony
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Anthony J. Biacco Network Administrator/Engineer
thelittleprince at asteroid-b612.org http://www.asteroid-b612 dot org
"You find magic from your god, and I find magic everywhere"
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Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 13:55:29 -0700
From: Kenneth Porter <shiva at sewingwitch dot com>
Subject: Re: Proble with qpopper and virtual IP addresses
--On Thursday, June 05, 2003 1:22 PM -0700 The Little Prince
<thelittleprince at asteroid-b612 dot org> wrote:
> exchange is a mail server, not a mail reader.
Not entirely true. Exchange can "pull" mail from a POP3 server not unlike
fetchmail.
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 17:25:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: Alan Brown <alanb at digistar dot com>
Subject: Re: Proble with qpopper and virtual IP addresses
On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Kenneth Porter wrote:
> > exchange is a mail server, not a mail reader.
>
> Not entirely true. Exchange can "pull" mail from a POP3 server not unlike
> fetchmail.
Not only that, it's the preferred method for incompetent "expert
consultants" setting up dialup boxes, as they seem to think that ETRN is
too hard.
I'll leave to your imaginations the horrors of what happens when
messages come into the POP box with multiple recipients in the Bcc lines
and no To: entry matching the domain of the Exchange server, after the
messages get to the Exchange box.
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 19:04:02 -0400
From: Chuck Yerkes <chuck+qpopper at yerkes dot com>
Subject: Re: POP Administration Utilities to deal with mailbox size
Quoting Paul Carpenter (paul at dodgenet dot com):
> The Exim MTA has the ability to limit mailbox sizes.
>
> The garbmail program can scan a POP mailbox and delete mail that is
> older than a specified age.
Is that MTA based or a script?
Perl also has mailbox managing tools.
You might just roll your own.
>
> On Friday 30 May 2003 11:21 am, Jeremy Fitz wrote:
> > Hi:
> >
> > Does anyone know of any tools or strategies to deal with POP mailboxes?
> > Specifically, I'm looking to contstrain the maximum size of a user's
> > mailbox, however other tools might include patching Qpopper to force
> > "Delete From Server", etc.
> >
> > Just wondering wether there's a toolbox for POP Mailbox Admins.
> >
> > Thanks
> > j
>
> --
> Paul Carpenter
> paul at dodgenet dot com
> DodgeNet, Inc.
>
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 16:05:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: The Little Prince <thelittleprince at asteroid-b612 dot org>
Subject: Re: Proble with qpopper and virtual IP addresses
On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Kenneth Porter wrote:
> --On Thursday, June 05, 2003 1:22 PM -0700 The Little Prince
> <thelittleprince at asteroid-b612 dot org> wrote:
>
> > exchange is a mail server, not a mail reader.
>
> Not entirely true. Exchange can "pull" mail from a POP3 server not unlike
> fetchmail.
>
yeah, but wouldn't that make it a puller or fetcher then? :-)
--Tony
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Anthony J. Biacco Network Administrator/Engineer
thelittleprince at asteroid-b612.org http://www.asteroid-b612 dot org
"You find magic from your god, and I find magic everywhere"
.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
From: "McGraw, Robert P." <rmcgraw at purdue dot edu>
Subject: NEWQUESTION - Problem with qpopper and virtual IP addresses
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 08:34:28 -0500
Below is the original message about having problems with virtual IP
addresses
Anthony J. Biacco (thelittleprince) responded asking if I could telnet from
the same machine that I was having outlook problems and I responded with
You did hit on something that I did not think about. When I telnet
to the pophost I am doing it from another UNIX hosts, yet the Outlook
problem is on a WinXP laptop that I use for my desktop. So I started a cmd
window and tried to telnet from my Window workstation to pophost and it does
not work. My mind was tunneled in thinking it was the pophost side and not
the exchange side. As a matter of fact I fixed a persons Netscape mail,
which runs on a UNIX system, and he was able to read his email using
pophost.
When I "telnet pophost.xxx.yyy.edu 110" from my PC WinXP laptop
which has a static IP address, it just hangs just like it does in Outlook.
I can "ping pophost" from my PC WinXP laptop and it works just fine.
I can also do nslookup on names and I get back the correct info.
SO HUMMMM. Any ideas what would cause this.
Thanks againg for your help. That is why I like groups. Sometime you
get stuck looking at the problem one way and others see it another way.
SOOOO now the question is what would keep my PC WinXP laptop from not being
able to telnet into pophost.xxx.yyy.edu
-----Original Message-----
From: McGraw, Robert P.
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 2:56 PM
To: 'qpopper at lists.pensive dot org'
Subject: Proble with qpopper and virtual IP addresses
I am having a problem running qpopper on a virtual host name.
1. Running qpopper 4.0.5
2. Running Solaris 5.9 on a Sun Netra
3. Have set up the following in the ifconfig.
le0 hostname.xxx.yyy.edu
le0:1 mailhost.xxx.yyy.edu
le0:2 pophost.xxx.yyy.edu
Problem:
I can "telnet pophost.xxx.yyy.edu 110" and connect to the pophost and go
through the test pop login. This connects and shows messages with the list
command.
If I use pophost.xxx.yyy.edu as the incoming server name in a mail reader,
such as exchange, it will not make a connection. I do not even see any debug
info in the log files. If I use hostname.xxx.yyy.edu in the mail reader it
will work just fine.
I can ping, telnet into, and nslookup on the virutal IP address so I
believe they are set up correctly working correctly
What would cause the virutal IP address not to work and the real IP to work
in a mail reader. It seems like it is getting confuse in the sending and
receiving of packets when it goes to the virtual IP address.
Any thoughts or suggestions on how to resolve this problem.
Thanks
_____________________________________________________________________
Robert P. McGraw, Jr.
System Administrator EMAIL1:
rmcgraw at purdue dot edu
Purdue University ROOM: MATH-807
Department of Mathematics PHONE: (765) 494-6055
150 N. University Avenue FAX: (419) 821-0540
West Lafayette, IN 47907-2067 EMAIL2: robert at mcgraw-jr dot com
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 06:47:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: The Little Prince <thelittleprince at asteroid-b612 dot org>
Subject: Re: NEWQUESTION - Problem with qpopper and virtual IP addresses
On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, McGraw, Robert P. wrote:
>
> When I "telnet pophost.xxx.yyy.edu 110" from my PC WinXP laptop
> which has a static IP address, it just hangs just like it does in Outlook.
>
> I can "ping pophost" from my PC WinXP laptop and it works just fine.
> I can also do nslookup on names and I get back the correct info.
>
> SO HUMMMM. Any ideas what would cause this.
>
sounds like a firewall blocking it, to me. Either on the laptop or on the
through-gateway. router access-lists, xp ip security filters, norton,
blackice defender, etc..
Might as well, also, try telnetting to the virtual ip (not the hostname)
on 110. (yeah, i know the ping and nslookup worked for the hostname, but
ya never know, and i never trust a forward DNS resolution for debugging).
--Tony
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Anthony J. Biacco Network Administrator/Engineer
thelittleprince at asteroid-b612.org http://www.asteroid-b612 dot org
"You find magic from your god, and I find magic everywhere"
.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: McGraw, Robert P.
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 2:56 PM
> To: 'qpopper at lists.pensive dot org'
> Subject: Proble with qpopper and virtual IP addresses
>
>
> I am having a problem running qpopper on a virtual host name.
>
> 1. Running qpopper 4.0.5
>
> 2. Running Solaris 5.9 on a Sun Netra
>
> 3. Have set up the following in the ifconfig.
>
> le0 hostname.xxx.yyy.edu
> le0:1 mailhost.xxx.yyy.edu
> le0:2 pophost.xxx.yyy.edu
>
> Problem:
>
> I can "telnet pophost.xxx.yyy.edu 110" and connect to the pophost and go
> through the test pop login. This connects and shows messages with the list
> command.
>
> If I use pophost.xxx.yyy.edu as the incoming server name in a mail reader,
> such as exchange, it will not make a connection. I do not even see any debug
> info in the log files. If I use hostname.xxx.yyy.edu in the mail reader it
> will work just fine.
>
> I can ping, telnet into, and nslookup on the virutal IP address so I
> believe they are set up correctly working correctly
>
> What would cause the virutal IP address not to work and the real IP to work
> in a mail reader. It seems like it is getting confuse in the sending and
> receiving of packets when it goes to the virtual IP address.
>
> Any thoughts or suggestions on how to resolve this problem.
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> _____________________________________________________________________
> Robert P. McGraw, Jr.
> System Administrator EMAIL1:
> rmcgraw at purdue dot edu
> Purdue University ROOM: MATH-807
> Department of Mathematics PHONE: (765) 494-6055
> 150 N. University Avenue FAX: (419) 821-0540
> West Lafayette, IN 47907-2067 EMAIL2: robert at mcgraw-jr dot com
>
--
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Anthony J. Biacco Network Administrator/Engineer
thelittleprince at asteroid-b612.org http://www.asteroid-b612 dot org
"You find magic from your god, and I find magic everywhere"
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From: Paul Carpenter <paul at dodgenet dot com>
Subject: Re: POP Administration Utilities to deal with mailbox size
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 09:00:52 -0500
The mailbox size limiting is built into the Exim MTA. It checks the mailbox
size whenever a message is recieved. It can be set up to send a warning
message to the user in the event that the mailbox is almost up to it's
maximum allowed size. It will reject new mail to the mailbox once maximum
size is reached.
The garbmail program is a python script that can be run from cron every now
and then.
On Thursday 05 June 2003 06:04 pm, Chuck Yerkes wrote:
> Quoting Paul Carpenter (paul at dodgenet dot com):
> > The Exim MTA has the ability to limit mailbox sizes.
> >
> > The garbmail program can scan a POP mailbox and delete mail that is
> > older than a specified age.
>
> Is that MTA based or a script?
>
> Perl also has mailbox managing tools.
> You might just roll your own.
>
> > On Friday 30 May 2003 11:21 am, Jeremy Fitz wrote:
> > > Hi:
> > >
> > > Does anyone know of any tools or strategies to deal with POP mailboxes?
> > > Specifically, I'm looking to contstrain the maximum size of a user's
> > > mailbox, however other tools might include patching Qpopper to force
> > > "Delete From Server", etc.
> > >
> > > Just wondering wether there's a toolbox for POP Mailbox Admins.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > j
> >
> > --
> > Paul Carpenter
> > paul at dodgenet dot com
> > DodgeNet, Inc.
--
Paul Carpenter
paul at dodgenet dot com
DodgeNet, Inc.
From: "McGraw, Robert P." <rmcgraw at purdue dot edu>
Subject: FW: NEWQUESTION - Problem with qpopper and virtual IP addresses
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 08:44:10 -0500
As an added note.
From my PC WinXP I can "telnet hostname.xxx.yyy.edu 110" but I cannot telnet
to the virtual IP addresses. Again it hangs. In the command prompt window
the message that I get back is "Connection to pophost.xxx.yyy.edu...Could
not open connection to the host, or port 110: Connect failed."
Thanks again
Robert
-----Original Message-----
From: McGraw, Robert P.
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 8:34 AM
To: 'qpopper at lists.pensive dot org'
Subject: NEWQUESTION - Problem with qpopper and virtual IP addresses
Below is the original message about having problems with virtual IP
addresses
Anthony J. Biacco (thelittleprince) responded asking if I could telnet from
the same machine that I was having outlook problems and I responded with
You did hit on something that I did not think about. When I telnet
to the pophost I am doing it from another UNIX hosts, yet the Outlook
problem is on a WinXP laptop that I use for my desktop. So I started a cmd
window and tried to telnet from my Window workstation to pophost and it does
not work. My mind was tunneled in thinking it was the pophost side and not
the exchange side. As a matter of fact I fixed a persons Netscape mail,
which runs on a UNIX system, and he was able to read his email using
pophost.
When I "telnet pophost.xxx.yyy.edu 110" from my PC WinXP laptop
which has a static IP address, it just hangs just like it does in Outlook.
I can "ping pophost" from my PC WinXP laptop and it works just fine.
I can also do nslookup on names and I get back the correct info.
SO HUMMMM. Any ideas what would cause this.
Thanks againg for your help. That is why I like groups. Sometime you
get stuck looking at the problem one way and others see it another way.
SOOOO now the question is what would keep my PC WinXP laptop from not being
able to telnet into pophost.xxx.yyy.edu
-----Original Message-----
From: McGraw, Robert P.
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 2:56 PM
To: 'qpopper at lists.pensive dot org'
Subject: Proble with qpopper and virtual IP addresses
I am having a problem running qpopper on a virtual host name.
1. Running qpopper 4.0.5
2. Running Solaris 5.9 on a Sun Netra
3. Have set up the following in the ifconfig.
le0 hostname.xxx.yyy.edu
le0:1 mailhost.xxx.yyy.edu
le0:2 pophost.xxx.yyy.edu
Problem:
I can "telnet pophost.xxx.yyy.edu 110" and connect to the pophost and go
through the test pop login. This connects and shows messages with the list
command.
If I use pophost.xxx.yyy.edu as the incoming server name in a mail reader,
such as exchange, it will not make a connection. I do not even see any debug
info in the log files. If I use hostname.xxx.yyy.edu in the mail reader it
will work just fine.
I can ping, telnet into, and nslookup on the virutal IP address so I
believe they are set up correctly working correctly
What would cause the virutal IP address not to work and the real IP to work
in a mail reader. It seems like it is getting confuse in the sending and
receiving of packets when it goes to the virtual IP address.
Any thoughts or suggestions on how to resolve this problem.
Thanks
_____________________________________________________________________
Robert P. McGraw, Jr.
System Administrator EMAIL1:
rmcgraw at purdue dot edu
Purdue University ROOM: MATH-807
Department of Mathematics PHONE: (765) 494-6055
150 N. University Avenue FAX: (419) 821-0540
West Lafayette, IN 47907-2067 EMAIL2: robert at mcgraw-jr dot com
From: "McGraw, Robert P." <rmcgraw at purdue dot edu>
Subject: RE: NEWQUESTION - Problem with qpopper and virtual IP addresses
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 10:49:07 -0500
I have resolved the problem.
It was and over looked Solaris parameter that was causing the problem.
Thanks to everyone who answered my quest.
Robert
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 11:15:53 -0700
Subject: Re: NEWQUESTION - Problem with qpopper and virtual IP addresses
From: John Rudd <jrudd at ucsc dot edu>
On Friday, Jun 6, 2003, at 08:49 US/Pacific, McGraw, Robert P. wrote:
> I have resolved the problem.
>
> It was and over looked Solaris parameter that was causing the problem.
>
Out of curiousity, which solaris parameter?
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 14:07:53 +0200 (CEST)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Aqil?= <aq1l at yahoo dot fr>
Subject: Installation - fail to telnet
Hi lister,
I'm very new to this list. I hope to be able to learn
a lot of things about qpopper from you, listers..
I've just installed qpopper together with postfix as
an SMTP server.
I was installing while consulting the qpopper howto.
At the end of the installation, I still couldn't
telnet to the server at the port 110.
I already have added pop3 port in /etc/xinetd.conf and
in /etc/services and also restart xinetd daemon... as
all mentionned in the documentation...
But there was always this message:
connection refused ...
Any soultion would be greatly appreciated ..
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 08:58:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: chort <chort at amaunetsgothique dot com>
Subject: Re: Installation - fail to telnet
Make sure you add a line to /etc/hosts.allow like this
popper: 192.168.0.15,192.168.0.21
etc... xinetd is probably being run with a TCP wrapper and will only
allow connections from addresses listed in hosts.allow.
Also, you can check your logs for information by doing tail
/var/log/syslog immediately after you try to connect. You can go back
more lines with tail -n where n is the number of lines back. tail -f
will continuously update the output as more lines are written to log.
HTH
--
-chort
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, [iso-8859-1] Aqil wrote:
> Hi lister,
>
> I'm very new to this list. I hope to be able to learn
> a lot of things about qpopper from you, listers..
>
> I've just installed qpopper together with postfix as
> an SMTP server.
>
> I was installing while consulting the qpopper howto.
>
> At the end of the installation, I still couldn't
> telnet to the server at the port 110.
>
> I already have added pop3 port in /etc/xinetd.conf and
> in /etc/services and also restart xinetd daemon... as
> all mentionned in the documentation...
>
> But there was always this message:
> connection refused ...
>
> Any soultion would be greatly appreciated ..
>
>
> ___________________________________________________________
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> Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com
>
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 07:46:07 +0200 (CEST)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Aqil?= <aq1l at yahoo dot fr>
Subject: Next - Authentication
Thanks for all who relpied, and gave helpful solution.
I tried to reply you again, and it seems to go
directly to your mailbox.
So, I telnetted the qpopper server succesfully. But
when I entered the command user with my user id as its
parameter. But I invite you to take a look what
happened while I was telnetting :
$ telnet rh-drake 110
Trying 10.1.2.3...
Connected to rh-drake.
Escape character is '^]'.
+OK Qpopper (version 4.0.5) at rh-drake starting.
<6252 dot 1055481424@rh-drake>
user aqil
-ERR [AUTH] You must use stronger authentication such
as AUTH or APOP to connect to this server
...
FYI I already compiled qpopper with
> --enable-apop
Any idea would be very appreciated
Thanks in advance..
aqil
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 23:28:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: chort <chort at amaunetsgothique dot com>
Subject: Re: Next - Authentication
On Wed, 11 Jun 2003, [iso-8859-1] Aqil wrote:
> Thanks for all who relpied, and gave helpful solution.
> I tried to reply you again, and it seems to go
> directly to your mailbox.
>
> So, I telnetted the qpopper server succesfully. But
> when I entered the command user with my user id as its
> parameter. But I invite you to take a look what
> happened while I was telnetting :
>
> $ telnet rh-drake 110
> Trying 10.1.2.3...
> Connected to rh-drake.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> +OK Qpopper (version 4.0.5) at rh-drake starting.
> <6252 dot 1055481424@rh-drake>
> user aqil
> -ERR [AUTH] You must use stronger authentication such
> as AUTH or APOP to connect to this server
>
From page 25 of the Qpopper.PDF manual, try setting the -p flag in the
/etc/xinetd/pop3 file to 2. i.e. -p 2. That will allow cleartext as
well as apop authentication.
For details on usage of apop I highly recommend reading pages 48 and 49
in the Qpopper.PDF.
> ...
> FYI I already compiled qpopper with
> > --enable-apop
>
> Any idea would be very appreciated
>
> Thanks in advance..
> aqil
>
> ___________________________________________________________
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>
--
-chort
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:42:02 +0200 (CEST)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Aqil?= <aq1l at yahoo dot fr>
Subject: Re: Next - Authentication
--- chort <chort at amaunetsgothique dot com> a écrit :
> From page 25 of the Qpopper.PDF manual, try setting
> the -p flag in the
> /etc/xinetd/pop3 file to 2. i.e. -p 2. That will
> allow cleartext as
> well as apop authentication.
>
> For details on usage of apop I highly recommend
> reading pages 48 and 49
> in the Qpopper.PDF.
Ok. It works. Thanks a lot for all ..
aqil
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:49:34 -0400
From: Mike Tancsa <mike at sentex dot net>
Subject: Re: Security Vulnerability in Poppassd
Hi,
Has there ever been a patched version ? I cant seem to find any
updates on the qualcomm ftp site.
Thanks,
---Mike
At 04:58 PM 03/05/2003 -0700, Randall Gellens wrote:
>A security vulnerability in the poppassd component of the Qpopper
>distribution has been discovered and publicized. This vulnerability could
>permit an attacker to gain root access. Note that the flaw requires shell
>access to to a system with poppassd installed. Poppassd is not built nor
>installed by default.
>
>Work-arounds include removing the poppassd executable, or changing the
>permissions on the poppassd executable to prevent execution except by
>root. Either of these methods should enable you to avoid the vulnerability.
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 17:04:19 -0400
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Security Vulnerability in Poppassd
At 10:49 AM -0400 6/11/03, Mike Tancsa wrote:
>
> Has there ever been a patched version ? I cant seem to find
> any updates on the qualcomm ftp site.
I haven't finished testing and so on yet.
--
Randall Gellens
Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only
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If I like it I say it's mine. If I don't I say it's a fake.
--Pablo Picasso
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 20:11:48 -0400
From: Chuck Yerkes <chuck+qpopper at yerkes dot com>
Subject: Re: Security Vulnerability in Poppassd
And frankly, it's a cleartext protocol. You'd be better
off changing passwords via an https web page or some
similar method.
Quoting Randall Gellens (randy at qualcomm dot com):
> At 10:49 AM -0400 6/11/03, Mike Tancsa wrote:
>
> >
> > Has there ever been a patched version ? I cant seem to find
> >any updates on the qualcomm ftp site.
>
> I haven't finished testing and so on yet.
>
> --
> Randall Gellens
> Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only
> -------------- Randomly-selected tag: ---------------
> If I like it I say it's mine. If I don't I say it's a fake.
> --Pablo Picasso
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 21:17:06 -0400
From: Mike Tancsa <mike at sentex dot net>
Subject: Re: Security Vulnerability in Poppassd
At 08:11 PM 12/06/2003 -0400, Chuck Yerkes wrote:
>And frankly, it's a cleartext protocol. You'd be better
>off changing passwords via an https web page or some
>similar method.
Yes, thats what he have right now. A web page a user can go to via SSL and
it talks to the poppasswd daemon. Still, I dont like to have known local
vulnerabilities even though there is no user shell access to the box.
---Mike
>Quoting Randall Gellens (randy at qualcomm dot com):
> > At 10:49 AM -0400 6/11/03, Mike Tancsa wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Has there ever been a patched version ? I cant seem to find
> > >any updates on the qualcomm ftp site.
> >
> > I haven't finished testing and so on yet.
From: Drew Weaver <drew.weaver at thenap dot com>
Subject: Optimal configuration
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 09:50:59 -0400
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Hi, I finally got a brand new mail server, I'm having a
difficult time trying to figure out what the optimal configuration for
qpopper is. Basically our server just does standard POP3, no SSL, or
anything fancy, just a basic port 110 pop3 server. We run into problems
frequently with envelope errors and et cetera, currently this is the
configuration we use in inetd.
pop-3 stream tcp nowait.900 root /usr/local/lib/popper qpopper -c
-C -R -F -S -T 300
and it works pretty well but I'd like to see if I can minimize the 'pop
locks, envelope errors' et cetera.
Any tips?
-Drew
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; Hi, I finally got a brand new mail server, I'm
having a difficult time trying to figure out what the optimal
configuration for
qpopper is. Basically our server just does standard POP3, no SSL, or
anything
fancy, just a basic port 110 pop3 server. We run into problems
frequently with
envelope errors and et cetera, currently this is the configuration we
use in inetd.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;
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tcp nowait.900 root
/usr/local/lib/popper
qpopper -c -C -R -F -S -T 300</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;
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can
minimize the 'pop locks, envelope errors' et cetera.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:21:31 -0400
From: "Nicholas J. Santarelli" <nick at mortgagecorp dot com>
Subject: Re: Security Vulnerability in Poppassd
Is this the list for WorldMail 2.0
I just signed up and i am not sure???
Please let me know...
Nick
At 09:17 PM 6/12/2003 -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote:
>At 08:11 PM 12/06/2003 -0400, Chuck Yerkes wrote:
>>And frankly, it's a cleartext protocol. You'd be better
>>off changing passwords via an https web page or some
>>similar method.
>
>Yes, thats what he have right now. A web page a user can go to via SSL
>and it talks to the poppasswd daemon. Still, I dont like to have known
>local vulnerabilities even though there is no user shell access to the box.
>
> ---Mike
>
>
>>Quoting Randall Gellens (randy at qualcomm dot com):
>> > At 10:49 AM -0400 6/11/03, Mike Tancsa wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Has there ever been a patched version ? I cant seem to find
>> > >any updates on the qualcomm ftp site.
>> >
>> > I haven't finished testing and so on yet.
>
Nicholas J. Santarelli, MCP
Systems Administrator
Mid-Island Mortgage Corp.
516-683-0800 Ext 207
www.mid-islandmortgage.com
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 18:22:02 -0400
From: Jason Gurtz <jason at tommyk dot com>
Subject: Baffled by permissions problem
I have the apparently oft encountered error:
-ERR [SYS/TEMP] Failed to create
/var/spool/popper/tempdrop/j/a/.jason.pop with uid 1009, gid 102.
Change permissions.
When using hash type 2
But everything is seemingly how it should be. I used
--enable-temp-drop-dir=/var/spool/popper/tempdrop
The mail spool perms are:
root@miscanthus:mail# ls -ld /var/mail
drwxrwxrwt 2 root mail 4096 Jun 21 17:58 /var/mail/
the tempdrop is:
root@miscanthus:mail# ls -ld /var/spool/popper/tempdrop/
drwxrwxrwt 2 root mail 4096 Jun 20 22:39 /var/spool/popper/tempdrop/
root@miscanthus:mail# cat /etc/group | grep mail
mail:x:102:jason,scott,flake
The funny thing is when I attempt to grab mail via pop it looks like
it's trying to create the temp drop dirs in /var/mail.
root@miscanthus:mail# ls -ld /var/mail/j
drwxrwxrwt 3 root mail 4096 Jun 21 18:16 /var/mail/j/
root@miscanthus:mail# ls -la /var/mail/j/a/
total 8
drwxrwxrwt 2 root mail 4096 Jun 21 18:16 ./
drwxrwxrwt 3 root mail 4096 Jun 21 18:16 ../
I used the exact commands as illustrated in the permissions section of
the faq to set the permissions, but still have the problem. It must be
simple, what am I overlooking?
~Jason
--
From: mwestern at sola.com dot au
Subject: Outlook XP timeout issue with 4.0.5
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:34:09 +0930
Hi All,
I'm sure you've all heard this before. Outlook XP does a POP EOF or a POP
Timeout with 4.0.3 & 4.0.5 i've tried chunky writes and all the rest of
the options as specified in the manual (of which i have a printed copy on my
desk).
how do i fix this?
Regards
Matthew
Subject: Re: Outlook XP timeout issue with 4.0.5
From: Jaume Obrador <obrador at espaiweb dot net>
Date: 24 Jun 2003 10:28:00 +0200
I have exactly the same problem with 4.0.5. I didn't tried other
versions.
I would appreciate a quick help,
Thanks
Jaume.
On dt, 2003-06-24 at 04:04, mwestern at sola.com dot au wrote:
> Hi All,
> I'm sure you've all heard this before. Outlook XP does a POP EOF or a POP
> Timeout with 4.0.3 & 4.0.5 i've tried chunky writes and all the rest of
> the options as specified in the manual (of which i have a printed copy on my
> desk).
>
> how do i fix this?
>
> Regards
> Matthew
>
>
From: qpopper at snixthecat dot com
Subject: Upgraded but still having problems
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 14:07:43 GMT
After having problems with unresponsiveness with qpop3.1, I upgraded to 4.0
Now I am still getting unexpected connection terminations. I see a lot of "
I/O error flushing output to client" and "-ERR POP EOF or I/O Error".
I don't know where to go with this, but a lot of people are complaining.
Thanks for any help.
From: Drew Weaver <drew.weaver at thenap dot com>
Subject: RE: Upgraded but still having problems
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 12:01:27 -0400
Are you using the 1 file per entire mailbox format for your email? If so you
may want to look at the mbox format as it offers better i/o performance.
Thanks,
-Drew
-----Original Message-----
From: qpopper at snixthecat dot com [mailto:qpopper at snixthecat dot com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:08 AM
To: Subscribers of Qpopper
Subject: Upgraded but still having problems
After having problems with unresponsiveness with qpop3.1, I upgraded to 4.0
Now I am still getting unexpected connection terminations. I see a lot of "
I/O error flushing output to client" and "-ERR POP EOF or I/O Error".
I don't know where to go with this, but a lot of people are complaining.
Thanks for any help.
From: qpopper at snixthecat dot com
Subject: RE: Upgraded but still having problems
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 15:57:43 GMT
Thanks for the reply, but i'm not sure what that means. I couldn't find any
reference to mbox in the docs.
> Are you using the 1 file per entire mailbox format for your email? If so you
> may want to look at the mbox format as it offers better i/o performance.
>
> Thanks,
> -Drew
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: qpopper at snixthecat dot com [mailto:qpopper at snixthecat dot com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:08 AM
> To: Subscribers of Qpopper
> Subject: Upgraded but still having problems
>
> After having problems with unresponsiveness with qpop3.1, I upgraded to 4.0
> Now I am still getting unexpected connection terminations. I see a lot of "
>
> I/O error flushing output to client" and "-ERR POP EOF or I/O Error".
>
> I don't know where to go with this, but a lot of people are complaining.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
From: "Ken Bradford" <ken at alpha2 dot com>
Subject: Expired test certificate problems.
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:33:37 -0400
We installed Qpopper 4.0.4 quite awhile ago without too much fuss and life
has been pretty uneventfull.
We've been using a self-signed test certificate which expired over the
weekend causing my Outlook 98 to bug me with "The server you are connected
to is using a security certificate which has expired or is not yet valid,"
and asking if I would like to continue everytime it checks for mail.
Today I generated a new, 3650 day certificate (and even imported it to my
computer) and rebooted the server (Redhat 7.2), but I STILL get the same
message every time it checks for mail. Oddly, my boss has not gotten this
message at all. (Neither of us turn our PCs of at night.) We both have
Outlook 98, IE 5.5, and Windows 98, but I believe mine is ver 1 and his is
98SE.
What did I miss?
Ken Bradford
Alpha II Service, Inc.
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 09:11:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: The Little Prince <thelittleprince at asteroid-b612 dot org>
Subject: RE: Upgraded but still having problems
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Drew Weaver wrote:
> Are you using the 1 file per entire mailbox format for your email? If so you
> may want to look at the mbox format as it offers better i/o performance.
qpopper doesn't have native support for Maildir, he has to be using mbox.
--Tony
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>
> Thanks,
> -Drew
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: qpopper at snixthecat dot com [mailto:qpopper at snixthecat dot com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:08 AM
> To: Subscribers of Qpopper
> Subject: Upgraded but still having problems
>
> After having problems with unresponsiveness with qpop3.1, I upgraded to 4.0
> Now I am still getting unexpected connection terminations. I see a lot of "
>
> I/O error flushing output to client" and "-ERR POP EOF or I/O Error".
>
> I don't know where to go with this, but a lot of people are complaining.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
>
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Anthony J. Biacco Network Administrator/Engineer
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From: "Ken Bradford" <ken at alpha2 dot com>
Subject: RE: Expired test certificate problems.
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 13:55:57 -0400
I found it:
When I created the new certificate I didn't delete the old cert.pem file
first. The new one contained the info from both certificates.
Ken
>
> We installed Qpopper 4.0.4 quite awhile ago without too much fuss and life
> has been pretty uneventfull.
>
> We've been using a self-signed test certificate which expired over the
> weekend causing my Outlook 98 to bug me with "The server you are connected
> to is using a security certificate which has expired or is not yet valid,"
> and asking if I would like to continue everytime it checks for mail.
>
> Today I generated a new, 3650 day certificate (and even imported it to my
> computer) and rebooted the server (Redhat 7.2), but I STILL get the same
> message every time it checks for mail. Oddly, my boss has not gotten this
> message at all. (Neither of us turn our PCs of at night.) We both have
> Outlook 98, IE 5.5, and Windows 98, but I believe mine is ver 1 and his is
> 98SE.
>
> What did I miss?
>
> Ken Bradford
> Alpha II Service, Inc.
>
>
From: mwestern at sola.com dot au
Subject: RE: Outlook XP timeout issue with 4.0.5
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 10:31:02 +0930
Hi Ken,
Yes i would like the patch sent to me. or can i simply insert the usleep
command in the right place and recompile?
Err, developers of qpopper, how easy would it be to add a option in the
config file to allow this to happen? sleep = x (ms) or something very
simple. then in the FAQ add a thing that says Outlook XP is a pile of crud:
you need to do this to get around the problem. (or is it already there and
i'm an idiot and can't read the manual properly?) :)
any thoughts ppl?
ta
Matt
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Lalonde [mailto:ken at globalremit dot com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 1:44 AM
To: mwestern at sola.com dot au
Subject: Re: Outlook XP timeout issue with 4.0.5
Here's what I did about it:
> From: Ken Lalonde <ken at globalremit dot com>
> To: qpopper at lists.pensive dot org
> Subject: Re: I/O error flushing output to client
> Date: Tue Feb 4 13:47:43 2003
>
> We saw this problem fairly frequently. The clients in question
> were running Outlook XP, connecting to a qpopper-4.0.4 server
> on the same very lightly loaded LAN. Diddling with chunky-writes
> or Outlook's timeout values did no good.
>
> A google search pointed to a bug in Outlook XP (shocking!),
> wherein Outlook gets confused if the server responds "too quickly".
> See the "I frequently get a timeout" question at:
> http://www.workgroupmail.com/faq_area.asp?area=Client%20Setup&id=34
> and:
> http://home.hetnet.nl/~ojb-hamster/EnWIP/EnWeb/html/faq18om.htm
>
> The URLs above both suggest configuring the server to
> pause for 50ms between POP commands. I changed qpopper to do that,
> which boils down to a "usleep(50*1000)" call in popper.c,
> just before the pop_get_command() call.
>
> Haven't seen the problem since.
>
> I can provide a patch on request.
>
> Cheers, -- Ken Lalonde, Global Remittance Network, Toronto
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 00:56:34 -0400
From: Chuck Yerkes <chuck+qpopper at yerkes dot com>
Subject: Re: Upgraded but still having problems
Quoting Drew Weaver (drew.weaver at thenap dot com):
> Are you using the 1 file per entire mailbox format for your email? If so you
> may want to look at the mbox format as it offers better i/o performance.
You're offering two descriptions of the same thing which
is, properly, Version 7 mailboxes.
Mailboxes whose messages are delimited by "\nFrom ".
Ummm, qpopper only supports Version 7 mailboxes
(aka "mbox"). Support for other formats ('maildir'
or other file/message formats such as the way cyrus
or Sendmail's IMAP server does it) is not native to
qpopper.
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 11:40:33 -0400
From: Chuck Yerkes <chuck+qpopper at yerkes dot com>
Subject: Re: Outlook XP timeout issue with 4.0.5
Quoting mwestern at sola.com.au (mwestern at sola dot com dot au):
...
> simple. then in the FAQ add a thing that says Outlook XP is a pile of crud:
> you need to do this to get around the problem. (or is it already there and
> i'm an idiot and can't read the manual properly?) :)
You just have to read it right and learn the word:
Microsoft Outlook.
from my Dictionary of the Future:
Outlook: (noun) 1) an application playing on the phrase "look
out!" released in the late 90's around the time of a movie
called Outbreak!, it was a viral application set out to move
users from SMTP to Exchange. (see also Exchange).
Microsoft: (adj). A word meaning "slow, unsecure, does not follow
standards". Derived from "micro" and "sloth", this adjective
is placed before nouns to describe that they can be used in
fun on test networks to aid in testing edge events of your
hardware and software. For example, if you have a machine
that is too fast for you to adequately measure its performance,
you put a microsoft Operating System on it to slow it down so
you can watch it. In this scenario, you can count operations
with a stop watch where with an actual operating system, you'd
need costly tools that could measure millisecond timing.
Microsoft is also used to describe applications designed to
test how your other tools handle standards. By subtly toying with
timings and behaviours, you can test how generous your application
is in what it accepts.
In the late 90s and early 00s (uhohs), corporate officers,
in part threatened by the "dot com" boom and computer engineers
rising into management and, mainly in jest, issued decrees that
these "microsoft" systems be deployed throughout companies.
By the 2010s, the prank was well understood and both management
and systems engineers laughed about it and had moved on.
History indicates that a company even called itself "microsoft"
and issued poor quality, unsecure software.
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 17:29:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ken Lalonde <ken at globalremittance dot com>
Subject: Re: Outlook XP timeout issue with 4.0.5
Here's the quick & dirty patch. Of course, the delay should be a run-time
config setting, possibly dependent on the client address, etc.
--- popper.c 2003/03/13 17:05:02 1.1
+++ popper.c 2003/03/13 17:08:47
@@ -311,6 +311,21 @@
}
}
else { /* start new command */
+ /*
+ * If M$ Outlook XP receives a response "faster than it expects",
+ * it ignores the data, and hangs. Work around it.
+ */
+ int command_delay = 50; /* should be in config; too lazy */
+ if (command_delay) {
+#ifdef HAVE_USLEEP
+ usleep(command_delay*1000); /* ms -> usec */
+#else
+ struct timeval tv;
+ tv.tv_sec = 0;
+ tv.tv_usec = command_delay*1000;
+ select(0, NULL, NULL, NULL, &tv);
+#endif
+ }
s = pop_get_command ( &p, message );
if ( s != NULL ) {
if ( s->function != NULL ) {
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 10:49:53 -0600 (MDT)
From: Mark Crane <cranema at uvsc dot edu>
Subject: upgrade to OS X broke qpopper 4.04
Hi,
I've got 4.04 installed, and ever since I upgraded to OS X 10.2.6
Qpopper has been hosed. Specifically, I can log into qpopper but
it also shows there are zero messages available. I suspect that
somewhere permissions got changed by the helpful people at Apple,
but I'm not sure what to check. Thanks for any suggestions.
MC
From: "George Burdell" <burdell3 at hotmail dot com>
Subject: MUA not downloading mail in spool
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 18:19:42 -0500
Hello--
I run Eudora 4.3.2 and POP mail from multiple servers, all on different
operating systems. I am consistently having issues POPing mail at home and
at the office with Qpopper (4.04 and 4.05 respectively).
Mail exists in the spool file, and Eudora checks in, but nothing is
downloaded. No errors appear in syslog, just the normal info:
niagara qpopper[29363]: Stats: burdell 0 0 6 24767 ritchie.domain.com
I don't see any obvious hits as the results of my googling. Any ideas?
George
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Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 11:17:27 +1200
From: Simon Byrnand <simon at igrin.co dot nz>
Subject: Re: Upgraded but still having problems
At 14:07 24/06/03 +0000, qpopper at snixthecat dot com wrote:
>After having problems with unresponsiveness with qpop3.1, I upgraded to 4.0
>Now I am still getting unexpected connection terminations. I see a lot of "
>I/O error flushing output to client" and "-ERR POP EOF or I/O Error".
>
>I don't know where to go with this, but a lot of people are complaining.
In my experience, this is not a Qpopper problem at all - all it is, is
Qpopper reported that the TCP connection has been closed unexpectedly. So
it is just Qpopper reporting a problem that lies elsewhere.
There are many possible reasons for this, but by far the most common is
simply users with phoneline/modem problems, you'll typically see this
message if their modem disconnects while they're downloading, and then the
TCP session times out and then closes.
Try correlating these errors with your dialup logs to see if the user in
question had their modem hang up at the time.
Really noisy phone lines that cause their modem to keep retraining can also
cause this timeout.
One further problem I've noted that can cause it, is certain kinds of
corrupted messages trigger a bug in some versions of Outlook Express that
basically make it stop and wait in the middle of downloading, and then time
out. In this case it will always happen at the same point. The only
solution (apart from them changing to a real email program :) is to delete
the offending message for them, or get them to delete it through a webmail
interface.
Regards,
Simon
From: "Charley Morgan" <sunspec at megagate dot com>
Subject: weird problem after upgrading to qpopper
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 09:22:18 -0500
I am running Solaris 8 with Sendmail as the MTA, procmail as the local
mailer and ipop3d(part of SIMS that came with Solaris 7) for POP access.
I upgraded to qpopper because of some problems we were having with POP
access and all of a sudden mail that was VERY old began appearing in
peoples mailboxes. I mean messages that were a year old. Any idea why
this would happen? The only thing I can figure is that our webmail
server which is a separate server that makes a copy of messages from our
main server was somehow putting messages back on the main server. Is
that possible? The only thing webmail does is use POP3 to retrieve
messages.
Thanks for any input.
Charley Morgan
Internet Engineer
Megagate Broadband
Phone: 601.450.2580
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From: mozzi <linux at mostert.nom dot za>
Subject: Re: weird problem after upgrading to qpopper
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 11:24:28 +0200
Hi all
I am replying to this as I have a similar problem that I have been trying to
track for a while now.
Suddenly(about 10 days ago) I start getting mail in from a couple of months
ago.
It is rather embarrasing as it was an invite to customers and some of them are
mad because they wanted to partake in the special.
I checked the headers and mailman, mailscanner server, and sendmail/procmail
on the box delivered it on that day.
It also happens randomly and I can not see a specifc pattern. Of the tens of
thousands that I sent I recon 500 or 600 have problem.
I will be interested to see the headers of the mail that you got in late.
Check if sendmail delivered it correctly a year ago that way we can see where
your problem is.
I use redhat 7.3 sendmail 8.12.6 and qpopper version 4.0.3 (standalone)
The only thing I cannot varify is qpopper.
Tnx
Mozzi
On Monday 30 June 2003 16:22, Charley Morgan wrote:
> I am running Solaris 8 with Sendmail as the MTA, procmail as the local
> mailer and ipop3d(part of SIMS that came with Solaris 7) for POP access.
> I upgraded to qpopper because of some problems we were having with POP
> access and all of a sudden mail that was VERY old began appearing in
> peoples mailboxes. I mean messages that were a year old. Any idea why
> this would happen? The only thing I can figure is that our webmail
> server which is a separate server that makes a copy of messages from our
> main server was somehow putting messages back on the main server. Is
> that possible? The only thing webmail does is use POP3 to retrieve
> messages.
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
> Charley Morgan
> Internet Engineer
> Megagate Broadband
> Phone: 601.450.2580
>
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From: "Charley Morgan" <sunspec at megagate dot com>
Subject: RE: weird problem after upgrading to qpopper
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 09:19:32 -0500
I am running Solaris 8 with Sendmail Switch 2.2(the commercial version
of Sendmail). I run procmail as the local mailer and am currently
running ipop3d(the version that came with the Sun Internet Mail Server
that was packaged with Solaris 7.) I tested qpopper 4.0.3 a few months
ago when we began having problems with customers mailboxes locking up
for no reason. We could simply move the mailbox to a temp file, send a
new test message and have the user check it and delete it, then simply
move the temp mailbox back and then they could download the messages.
Weird. Anyway, back to the point, once qpopper was installed, customers
began receiving messages that they had already received many months ago.
It's not that the messages were never delivered, it's just that they
appeared again. That is why I am thinking that the when my users
checked their mail using our webmail server, which just retrieves
messages using pop3, that somehow qpopper saw the messages on the
webmail server as new messages and was somehow downloading them back to
the server. Even getting the messages that were in the users deleted
items in webmail. Does that sound possible? I didn't think that pop3
could do anything like that though.
I am going to do some testing on a second server I have available and
see what happens. I will update everyone once my testing is done.
Thanks,
Charley Morgan
Internet Engineer
Megagate Broadband
Phone: 601.450.2580
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-----Original Message-----
From: mozzi [mailto:linux at mostert.nom dot za]
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 4:24 AM
To: Charley Morgan; Subscribers of Qpopper
Subject: Re: weird problem after upgrading to qpopper
Hi all
I am replying to this as I have a similar problem that I have been
trying to
track for a while now.
Suddenly(about 10 days ago) I start getting mail in from a couple of
months
ago.
It is rather embarrasing as it was an invite to customers and some of
them are
mad because they wanted to partake in the special.
I checked the headers and mailman, mailscanner server, and
sendmail/procmail
on the box delivered it on that day.
It also happens randomly and I can not see a specifc pattern. Of the
tens of
thousands that I sent I recon 500 or 600 have problem.
I will be interested to see the headers of the mail that you got in
late.
Check if sendmail delivered it correctly a year ago that way we can see
where
your problem is.
I use redhat 7.3 sendmail 8.12.6 and qpopper version 4.0.3 (standalone)
The only thing I cannot varify is qpopper.
Tnx
Mozzi
On Monday 30 June 2003 16:22, Charley Morgan wrote:
> I am running Solaris 8 with Sendmail as the MTA, procmail as the local
> mailer and ipop3d(part of SIMS that came with Solaris 7) for POP
access.
> I upgraded to qpopper because of some problems we were having with POP
> access and all of a sudden mail that was VERY old began appearing in
> peoples mailboxes. I mean messages that were a year old. Any idea
why
> this would happen? The only thing I can figure is that our webmail
> server which is a separate server that makes a copy of messages from
our
> main server was somehow putting messages back on the main server. Is
> that possible? The only thing webmail does is use POP3 to retrieve
> messages.
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
> Charley Morgan
> Internet Engineer
> Megagate Broadband
> Phone: 601.450.2580
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Please Note My NEW Email Address: c.morgan at megagate dot com
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Subject: Re: weird problem after upgrading to qpopper
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 16:43:55 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Eric Luyten <Eric.Luyten at vub.ac dot be>
> ... Anyway, back to the point, once qpopper was installed, customers
> began receiving messages that they had already received many months ago.
> It's not that the messages were never delivered, it's just that they
> appeared again. That is why I am thinking that the when my users
> checked their mail using our webmail server, which just retrieves
> messages using pop3, that somehow qpopper saw the messages on the
> webmail server as new messages and was somehow downloading them back to
> the server. Even getting the messages that were in the users deleted
> items in webmail. Does that sound possible? I didn't think that pop3
> could do anything like that though.
Hint : perhaps the new style (> Qpopper 3.0) UIDL lines caused
the clients to see already-downloaded messages as 'new'.
Eric.
From: peter at netlink.com dot au
Subject: Re: weird problem after upgrading to qpopper
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 00:51:48 +1000 (EST)
Guys,
This is a not unusual problem with pop clients and servers - certainly
not a qpopper problem.
You will find that all those problematic mailboxes actually did have
messages left in them - qpopper did not somehow place mail in them
nor did it find them elsewhere and deliver them to the pop client.
At some stage those users left mail on the server and their client
from then on did not recognise them as new messages so continued to
leave them there.
The users who do not have a problem simply did not leave any messages
on the server.
Someone more cluey than me will be able to explain exactly the
mechanics of uidl but I do know that it is somehow related to the
mailbox itself and the pop server.
When you do something - like change to a different pop server or move
the mailboxes that somehow triggers the server to tell the client that
those messages are new - so they get downloaded. If they continue to get
downloaded then it probably means that the message is not being deleted
from the server - almost certainly a problem with the pop client...
I hope this helps a bit...
Regards, Peter
Original message from Charley Morgan:
>
> I am running Solaris 8 with Sendmail Switch 2.2(the commercial version
> of Sendmail). I run procmail as the local mailer and am currently
> running ipop3d(the version that came with the Sun Internet Mail Server
> that was packaged with Solaris 7.) I tested qpopper 4.0.3 a few months
> ago when we began having problems with customers mailboxes locking up
> for no reason. We could simply move the mailbox to a temp file, send a
> new test message and have the user check it and delete it, then simply
> move the temp mailbox back and then they could download the messages.
> Weird. Anyway, back to the point, once qpopper was installed, customers
> began receiving messages that they had already received many months ago.
> It's not that the messages were never delivered, it's just that they
> appeared again. That is why I am thinking that the when my users
> checked their mail using our webmail server, which just retrieves
> messages using pop3, that somehow qpopper saw the messages on the
> webmail server as new messages and was somehow downloading them back to
> the server. Even getting the messages that were in the users deleted
> items in webmail. Does that sound possible? I didn't think that pop3
> could do anything like that though.
>
> I am going to do some testing on a second server I have available and
> see what happens. I will update everyone once my testing is done.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Charley Morgan
> Internet Engineer
> Megagate Broadband
> Phone: 601.450.2580
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Please Note My NEW Email Address: c.morgan at megagate dot com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mozzi [mailto:linux at mostert.nom dot za]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 4:24 AM
> To: Charley Morgan; Subscribers of Qpopper
> Subject: Re: weird problem after upgrading to qpopper
>
> Hi all
> I am replying to this as I have a similar problem that I have been
> trying to
> track for a while now.
> Suddenly(about 10 days ago) I start getting mail in from a couple of
> months
> ago.
> It is rather embarrasing as it was an invite to customers and some of
> them are
> mad because they wanted to partake in the special.
> I checked the headers and mailman, mailscanner server, and
> sendmail/procmail
> on the box delivered it on that day.
> It also happens randomly and I can not see a specifc pattern. Of the
> tens of
> thousands that I sent I recon 500 or 600 have problem.
> I will be interested to see the headers of the mail that you got in
> late.
> Check if sendmail delivered it correctly a year ago that way we can see
> where
> your problem is.
> I use redhat 7.3 sendmail 8.12.6 and qpopper version 4.0.3 (standalone)
> The only thing I cannot varify is qpopper.
>
> Tnx
>
> Mozzi
>
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