The worldmail list archive ending on 10 Jul 2000
Topics covered in this issue include:
1. Re: SMTPD.EXE and autodial
"Henry Avetisyan" <henry at jps dot net>
Fri, 28 Apr 2000 22:59:36 -0700
2. Incorrect e-mail addresses in addressbooks
"Mary A. Kelly" <mkelly at sso dot org>
Mon, 01 May 2000 15:46:50 -0400
3. File Error Msgs in Event Log
Jim Whitfill <whitfill at lanl dot gov>
Wed, 3 May 2000 07:17:06 -0600
4. Re: File Error Msgs in Event Log
"Gregory J. Hickel" <ghickel at crowderscoggins dot com>
Wed, 3 May 2000 08:28:01 -0500
5. WordMail 2.0 / WIN2000 / MS Proxy Server 2.0
"S. G. Seshadri" <seshadrisg at pcskills dot net>
Wed, 3 May 2000 10:43:46 -0400
6. Re: File Error Msgs in Event Log
Gabriel Caunt <gabe at rbdg dot com>
Wed, 03 May 2000 13:46:21 -0500
7. Re: File Error Msgs in Event Log
Jim Whitfill <whitfill at lanl dot gov>
Wed, 3 May 2000 12:49:58 -0600
8. Re: Incorrect e-mail addresses in addressbooks
Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Wed, 3 May 2000 18:13:50 -0700
9. Re: File Error Msgs in Event Log
"Douglas Anderson" <dandersn at purdue dot edu>
Wed, 3 May 2000 20:44:42 -0500
10. Worldmail LDAP
Andrew Cyr <acyr at admin.seu dot edu>
Thu, 04 May 2000 09:19:09 -0400
11. Filtering messages
Paul Schleider <p-schleider at tamu dot edu>
Thu, 04 May 2000 12:02:49 -0500
12. RE: Filtering messages
"Andrew McClymont" <andrewmcclymont at d-link dot net>
Thu, 4 May 2000 16:12:54 -0300
13. ISOCOR IMSFA SDK
Andrew Cyr <acyr at admin.seu dot edu>
Fri, 05 May 2000 09:28:28 -0400
14. SLAPD or X.500 Error
"Mary A. Kelly" <mkelly at sso dot org>
Fri, 05 May 2000 12:01:12 -0400
15. Re: ISOCOR IMSFA SDK
Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Fri, 5 May 2000 09:58:56 -0700
16. Re: Incorrect e-mail addresses in addressbooks
William Hultman <whultman at eudora dot com>
Fri, 05 May 2000 11:22:36 -0700
17. Relaying mail is not allowed
"Robert Ceglar" <robert.ceglar at nek dot si>
Fri, 12 May 2000 13:40:41 +0200
18. Re: Relaying mail is not allowed
"Douglas D. Anderson" <dandersn at purdue dot edu>
Fri, 12 May 2000 07:48:14 -0500 (EST)
19. No transport provider was available...
"Mary A. Kelly" <mkelly at sso dot org>
Fri, 12 May 2000 15:47:55 -0400
20. RE: Relaying mail is not allowed
"Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Sat, 13 May 2000 08:32:20 +0100
21. RE: No transport provider was available...
"Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Sat, 13 May 2000 08:49:09 +0100
22. LDAP Adress Book
"SveN Schuchmann" <schuchmann at schleissheimer dot de>
Tue, 23 May 2000 09:16:31 +0200
23. Question about relay and spammers.
Tim Craft <tim at thefaxcompany dot com>
Tue, 23 May 2000 11:27:47 -0700
24. Another question about relay and spammers.
Shinji Kuwayama <shinji at kuwayama dot com>
Tue, 23 May 2000 14:09:56 -0500
25. URGEND: Exceeded local data allocation limit
"SveN Schuchmann" <schuchmann at schleissheimer dot de>
Fri, 26 May 2000 14:14:49 +0200
26. Re: Worldmail LDAP
Gabriel Caunt <gabe at rbdg dot com>
Fri, 26 May 2000 09:02:43 -0500
27. User License Costs?
Keith Lockliear <djtech01 at ws6 dot com>
Sat, 27 May 2000 08:51:00 -0700
28. Re: ISOCOR IMSFA SDK
Andrew Cyr <acyr at admin.seu dot edu>
Tue, 30 May 2000 10:48:39 -0400
29. Subscribing from Perl script
Curt Van Tassell <curtvt at aipl.arsusda dot gov>
Wed, 31 May 2000 11:02:44 -0400
30. Subscribing to lists
Curt Van Tassell <curtvt at aipl.arsusda dot gov>
Wed, 31 May 2000 15:44:00 -0400
31. Migrating mail accounts
"Sergio Vianna" <svianna at fb.suzano.com dot br>
Fri, 2 Jun 2000 14:47:10 -0300
32. Re: Migrating mail accounts
"Sergio Vianna" <svianna at fb.suzano.com dot br>
Fri, 2 Jun 2000 17:09:20 -0300
33. Re: Migrating mail accounts
William Hultman <whultman at home dot com>
Fri, 02 Jun 2000 21:33:03 -0700
34. Re: Migrating mail accounts
William Hultman <whultman at home dot com>
Fri, 02 Jun 2000 21:33:03 -0700
35. Re: Worldmail LDAP
Ola Boman <ola.boman at danderyd dot se>
Mon, 05 Jun 2000 10:41:38 +0100
36. Attachment Size, etc...
"Edward Gowen" <egowen at msn dot com>
Tue, 6 Jun 2000 14:06:28 -0400
37. RE: Attachment Size, etc...
"Andrew McClymont" <andrewmcclymont at d-link dot net>
Tue, 6 Jun 2000 16:13:42 -0300
38. Moving Servers
dfaber <dfaber at airway2.bsd.uchicago dot edu>
Thu, 08 Jun 2000 12:50:51 -0500
39. Re: Moving Servers
William Hultman <whultman at home dot com>
Thu, 08 Jun 2000 23:12:52 -0700
40. Re: Worldmail LDAP
ian <ian at impeccable.org dot uk>
Tue, 13 Jun 2000 07:47:09 +0100
41. RE: Worldmail LDAP
"Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:48:36 +0100
42. Migrating from Worldmail 2.0 to Exchange 5.5 - Converting existing mail on Worldmail Server ?
"John A. Hughes" <jhughes at sportsoftgolf dot com>
Wed, 21 Jun 2000 15:26:06 -0400
43. RE: Migrating from Worldmail 2.0 to Exchange 5.5 - Converting existing mail on Worldmail Server ?
"Andrew McClymont" <andrewmcclymont at d-link dot net>
Wed, 21 Jun 2000 16:48:32 -0300
44. RE: NTMail
"Andrew McClymont" <andrewmcclymont at d-link dot net>
Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:37:47 -0300
45. RE: Migrating from Worldmail 2.0 to Exchange 5.5 - Converting existing mail on Worldmail Server ?
"Andrew McClymont" <andrewmcclymont at d-link dot net>
Mon, 3 Jul 2000 16:06:42 -0300
46. user access
Larry Coon <larryc at involved dot com>
Thu, 06 Jul 2000 15:37:33 -0700
47. Re: user access
Richard Brown <rxbrown at bigfoot dot com>
Fri, 07 Jul 2000 10:13:48 -0700
48. Restoring lists/e-mail accounts?
Keith Lockliear <ws6ta at lvcablemodem dot com>
Mon, 10 Jul 2000 20:44:37 -0700
49. Re: Restoring lists/e-mail accounts?
Richard Brown <rxbrown at bigfoot dot com>
Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:50:21 -0700
50. Re: Restoring lists/e-mail accounts?
Keith Lockliear <ws6ta at lvcablemodem dot com>
Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:55:51 -0700
From: "Henry Avetisyan" <henry at jps dot net>
Subject: Re: SMTPD.EXE and autodial
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 22:59:36 -0700
If smtpd -d returns MGR login failed, it indicates a bug in the server. If
you really want to use your approach you can probably just write a small
perl script that telnets to port 4200/25 and issues the commands using the
SMTP or the Management protocol.
Another approach is to use the Task Scheduler that comes with IE4 ( I
believe it gets installed if you choose the full installation). It just
provides a nice GUI alternative to AT command. My suggestion would be as
follows:
a) Setup the smtp server to deliver the messages at the predefined times -
for example 30 minutes past the hour.
b) Create a task that will use rasdial to connect to your ISP at 28 minutes
past the hour.
This way at 28 mins past the hour, rasdial connects your server to ISP, and
then 30 mins past the hour, the server tries to deliver its queued messages,
and since you already have a connection, all messages will be delivered
successfully.
This method is much easier to setup than the autodial approach.
Henry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Patterson" <lee at optexint dot com>
To: "Subscribers of WorldMail" <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 5:20 AM
Subject: SMTPD.EXE and autodial
> After many failed attempts at trying to configure our NT 4 server, SP6a to
> autodial and send/receive all mail I have decided to try another tact.
>
> I have decided to schedule a small batch file to run from the command line
> and use RasPhone to dial up our ISP and then use SMTP to deliver and
receive
> all mail.
>
> However, when I use SMTP -d deliver from the command line nothing happens
> and a message appears in the SMTP log file with:
> MGR login failed
>
> The same thing happens when I issue a SMTP -turn
>
> Any idea on the usage of this command to send/receive all mail from the
> command line? Are there any third party utilities that will do this?
> Essentially I want to schedule a job to run every hour and send/receive
all
> mail. I can't for the life of me get autodial to work!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lee Patterson
> IT Support
> OpTex
> lee at optexint dot com
>
>
>
Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 15:46:50 -0400
From: "Mary A. Kelly" <mkelly at sso dot org>
Subject: Incorrect e-mail addresses in addressbooks
We just installed WorldMail at our organization. Since we supply e-mail
service to 80 independent offices in our building a wide variety of POP
e-mail software is used.
One of the issues I have with WorldMail is that if a person sends out a
message to a list of people (and there could be a hundred or more names
in the list) if one e-mail address is incorrect the entire message is
bounced back. World Mail tech support tells me that one needs to find
the incorrect e-mail address(es) and correct them before the message can
be sent. Is there a work around to this situation because it seems to
be true?
Thank you Mary Kelly
--
Mary A. Kelly
State Service Organization Library
444 N. Capitol St. NW #337, Washington, DC 20001
202 624-5487/ mkelly at sso dot org
Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 07:17:06 -0600
From: Jim Whitfill <whitfill at lanl dot gov>
Subject: File Error Msgs in Event Log
I am running Worldmail V2.0 on WinNT V4.0 and see a few (4 or 5)
messages a day in the Application Event log that say something like:
cannot open file 'd:\Worldmail\SMTP\MailDir\38F59740.MSG' for reading error 32.
Or the cannot open might be cannot rename.
Has anyone seen anything like this and know what might be going on?
Thanks,
--
-----------------------
Jim A. Whitfill (505) 667-9282
Engineering Sciences & Applications Division
of the Los Alamos National Laboratory
mailto:whitfill at lanl dot gov Opinions are MINE ONLY!!
From: "Gregory J. Hickel" <ghickel at crowderscoggins dot com>
Subject: Re: File Error Msgs in Event Log
Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 08:28:01 -0500
Sounds like your mailbox files may be getting corrupt. You might want to
try defragmenting your drive. We use Diskeeper in our office
(http://www.diskeeper.com).
Greg Hickel
> I am running Worldmail V2.0 on WinNT V4.0 and see a few (4 or 5)
> messages a day in the Application Event log that say something like:
>
> cannot open file 'd:\Worldmail\SMTP\MailDir\38F59740.MSG' for reading
error 32.
>
> Or the cannot open might be cannot rename.
From: "S. G. Seshadri" <seshadrisg at pcskills dot net>
Subject: WordMail 2.0 / WIN2000 / MS Proxy Server 2.0
Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 10:43:46 -0400
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I realize this issue has been thrashed around a bit last month. We have =
WorldMail 2.0 in Win NT4 running OK with Proxy Server. We are porting =
to WIN2000 Server. When we do that, the mail does not go in or out =
through the proxy server. We have recreated the Registry Keys for =
WordMail in the same place where it used to be in WINNT4.
Any more experiences or thoughts?
Thanks
S. G. Seshadri
PC Skills
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charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" =
http-equiv=Content-Type>
<META content="MSHTML 5.00.2919.6307" name=GENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I realize this issue has been thrashed around a bit =
last
month. We have WorldMail 2.0 in Win NT4 running OK with Proxy
Server. We are porting to WIN2000 Server. When we do that, =
the mail
does not go in or out through the proxy server. We have recreated =
the
Registry Keys for WordMail in the same place where it used to be in
WINNT4.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Any more experiences or thoughts?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Thanks</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>S. G. Seshadri<BR>PC Skills</FONT></DIV>
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------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BFB4EC.753BD440--
Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 13:46:21 -0500
From: Gabriel Caunt <gabe at rbdg dot com>
Subject: Re: File Error Msgs in Event Log
Perhaps I'm missing something, but I thought the defragmentation does nothing
for file structure itself, but only re-arranges the data on the disk for
faster access. To the best of my knowledge, file corruption and file
fragmentaion are two entirely different problems.
Gabriel Caunt
Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 12:49:58 -0600
From: Jim Whitfill <whitfill at lanl dot gov>
Subject: Re: File Error Msgs in Event Log
At 1:46 PM -0500 5/3/00, Gabriel Caunt wrote:
>Perhaps I'm missing something, but I thought the defragmentation does nothing
>for file structure itself, but only re-arranges the data on the disk for
>faster access. To the best of my knowledge, file corruption and file
>fragmentaion are two entirely different problems.
>
>Gabriel Caunt
Gabriel,
I agree. Defrag will possibly speed up disk access/transfers.
Something like Norton Utilities is used to check for and possibly fix
file corruption.
I'm still not sure what the errors I'm seeing are due to.
--
-----------------------
Jim A. Whitfill (505) 667-9282
Engineering Sciences & Applications Division
of the Los Alamos National Laboratory
mailto:whitfill at lanl dot gov Opinions are MINE ONLY!!
Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 18:13:50 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Incorrect e-mail addresses in addressbooks
At 3:46 PM -0400 5/1/00, Mary A. Kelly wrote:
> We just installed WorldMail at our organization. Since we supply e-mail
> service to 80 independent offices in our building a wide variety of POP
> e-mail software is used.
> One of the issues I have with WorldMail is that if a person sends out a
> message to a list of people (and there could be a hundred or more names
> in the list) if one e-mail address is incorrect the entire message is
> bounced back. World Mail tech support tells me that one needs to find
> the incorrect e-mail address(es) and correct them before the message can
> be sent. Is there a work around to this situation because it seems to
> be true?
This depends on which client software is used, and where the
addresses are located. WorldMail itself does not bounce a message
if some of the recipients are bad; it delivers to the ones that are
good.
However, some mail programs, such as Eudora, abort sending a
message if the server reports that any of the addresses are bad.
This is usually what people want, because otherwise some people get
the message and others don't, and then when the bad addresses are
corrected, it is awkward to send just them the message.
Also, WorldMail supports mailing lists, which can be used to make
this process easier. Then, you add everyone to the list in
WorldMail, and just send the message to the list.
--
Randall Gellens
rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com
Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only
From: "Douglas Anderson" <dandersn at purdue dot edu>
Subject: Re: File Error Msgs in Event Log
Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 20:44:42 -0500
I had similar problem once, found out I had a bad sector on my servers HD.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Whitfill" <whitfill at lanl dot gov>
To: "Gabriel Caunt" <gabe at rbdg dot com>; "Subscribers of WorldMail"
<worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: File Error Msgs in Event Log
> At 1:46 PM -0500 5/3/00, Gabriel Caunt wrote:
> >Perhaps I'm missing something, but I thought the defragmentation does
nothing
> >for file structure itself, but only re-arranges the data on the disk for
> >faster access. To the best of my knowledge, file corruption and file
> >fragmentaion are two entirely different problems.
> >
> >Gabriel Caunt
>
>
>
> Gabriel,
>
> I agree. Defrag will possibly speed up disk access/transfers.
> Something like Norton Utilities is used to check for and possibly fix
> file corruption.
>
> I'm still not sure what the errors I'm seeing are due to.
>
> --
> -----------------------
> Jim A. Whitfill (505)
667-9282
> Engineering Sciences & Applications Division
> of the Los Alamos National Laboratory
> mailto:whitfill at lanl dot gov Opinions are MINE ONLY!!
Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 09:19:09 -0400
From: Andrew Cyr <acyr at admin.seu dot edu>
Subject: Worldmail LDAP
I would appreciate advice on setting up the Worldmail server to provide
a dynamic address book for our users. They are using Netscape Messenger
as their client.
What needs to be set up and configured in Worldmail?
Is there a simple way to use an existing address book from Netscape and
import it to Worldmail?
Should this all have set itself up automatically when I installed
Worldmail?
Thanks,
Andrew Cyr
Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 12:02:49 -0500
From: Paul Schleider <p-schleider at tamu dot edu>
Subject: Filtering messages
With the new viruses going around is there anyway to filter messages and
delete ones that might be infected before they are delivered?
Paul Schleider
USDA/ARS-APMRU
2771 F&B Road
College Station, Tx 77845
ph: 409-260-9561 fx: 409-260-9386
e-mail: p-schleider at tamu dot edu
From: "Andrew McClymont" <andrewmcclymont at d-link dot net>
Subject: RE: Filtering messages
Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 16:12:54 -0300
Try NAI's WebShield SMTP with the latest updates. It rocks, but this
LoveLetter script virus-junk outpaced it.
http:///www.nai.com
Be happy,
Andrew McClymont
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Schleider [mailto:p-schleider at tamu dot edu]
> Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 2:03 PM
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: Filtering messages
>
>
> With the new viruses going around is there anyway to filter messages and
> delete ones that might be infected before they are delivered?
> Paul Schleider
> USDA/ARS-APMRU
> 2771 F&B Road
> College Station, Tx 77845
>
> ph: 409-260-9561 fx: 409-260-9386
> e-mail: p-schleider at tamu dot edu
>
Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 09:28:28 -0400
From: Andrew Cyr <acyr at admin.seu dot edu>
Subject: ISOCOR IMSFA SDK
Previous posts had mentioned an SDK available from ISOCOR for creating a
DLL to screen or block e-mail attachments in Worldmail. It would seem
that ISOCOR has disappeared without a trace into Critical Path. Could
someone point the way to this package if it's still available?
Thanks,
Andrew Cyr
Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 12:01:12 -0400
From: "Mary A. Kelly" <mkelly at sso dot org>
Subject: SLAPD or X.500 Error
Good day everyone,
I was not able to get the Personal Account Manager page for Eudora World
Mail and then I was able to access the page. When the PAM page came up
there was a message written on the page that said: SLAPD or x.500 Error:
Server Error Has anyone dealt with this problem?
Thanks Mary Kelly
--
Mary A. Kelly
State Service Organization Library
444 N. Capitol St. NW #337, Washington, DC 20001
202 624-5487/ mkelly at sso dot org
Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 09:58:56 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: ISOCOR IMSFA SDK
At 9:28 AM -0400 5/5/00, Andrew Cyr wrote:
> Previous posts had mentioned an SDK available from ISOCOR for creating a
> DLL to screen or block e-mail attachments in Worldmail. It would seem
> that ISOCOR has disappeared without a trace into Critical Path. Could
> someone point the way to this package if it's still available?
>
> Thanks,
> Andrew Cyr
Go to <http://www.cp.net/solutions/downloads.html> and look for
"N-PLEX API Software Development Kit".
--
Randall Gellens
rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com
Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only
Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 11:22:36 -0700
From: William Hultman <whultman at eudora dot com>
Subject: Re: Incorrect e-mail addresses in addressbooks
At 06:13 PM 05/03/2000 -0700, Randall Gellens wrote:
>At 3:46 PM -0400 5/1/00, Mary A. Kelly wrote:
>
>> We just installed WorldMail at our organization. Since we supply e-mail
>> service to 80 independent offices in our building a wide variety of POP
>> e-mail software is used.
>> One of the issues I have with WorldMail is that if a person sends out a
>> message to a list of people (and there could be a hundred or more names
>> in the list) if one e-mail address is incorrect the entire message is
>> bounced back. World Mail tech support tells me that one needs to find
>> the incorrect e-mail address(es) and correct them before the message can
>> be sent. Is there a work around to this situation because it seems to
>> be true?
>
>This depends on which client software is used, and where the addresses are
>located. WorldMail itself does not bounce a message if some of the
>recipients are bad; it delivers to the ones that are good.
>
>However, some mail programs, such as Eudora, abort sending a message if
>the server reports that any of the addresses are bad. This is usually what
>people want, because otherwise some people get the message and others
>don't, and then when the bad addresses are corrected, it is awkward to
>send just them the message.
>
>Also, WorldMail supports mailing lists, which can be used to make this
>process easier. Then, you add everyone to the list in WorldMail, and just
>send the message to the list.
>--
>Randall Gellens
>rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com
>Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only
If the incorrect address included in the list is bound for one of
WorldMail's local domains, WorldMail will reject the message. If it is for
a non-local domain, WorldMail has no way of verifying the address and will
accept the message. When the destination server rejects that particular
address, the sender will receive a bounce -- for that recipient only -- but
the remaining recipients will be delivered.
Bill
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From: "Robert Ceglar" <robert.ceglar at nek dot si>
Subject: Relaying mail is not allowed
Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 13:40:41 +0200
Hello!
My configuration is WorldMail 2.0 on Win NT 4.0 SP 5.
Routing for non-local mail is set to : Use Domain Name Server
Connection to ISP (mail.siol.net) trough ISDN using ETRN command.
I want that mail coming for particular user is copied (resend) to
another e-mail address. I have configured copy address
trough message store user settings:
- configure
- advanced
- send_copy_of_all_mail_to: brane_lupsina at usa dot net
It does not work as expected.
I am geting following messages in SMTP log file.
08:15:18.99: [134] RESOLV: timeout waiting for DNS response
08:15:18.99: [134] RESOLV: Query name server 'taurus-1.siol.net'
08:15:18.99: [134] RESOLV: trying Internet address 193.189.160.11 ...
08:15:19.04: [134] RESOLV: Received DNS response for QNAME='mail.siol.net'
QTYPE=1, AA=1 RCODE=0
08:15:19.04: [134] RESOLV: Answer: mail.siol.net A 193.189.160.5 ttl
08:15:19.04: [134] RESOLV: Authority: siol.net NS taurus-1.siol.net
ttl0
08:15:19.04: [134] RESOLV: Authority: siol.net NS taurus-2.siol.net
ttl0
08:15:19.04: [134] RESOLV: Authority: siol.net NS taurus-3.siol.net
ttl0
08:15:19.04: [134] RESOLV: Additional: taurus-1.siol.net A 193.189.160.11
ttl0
08:15:19.04: [134] RESOLV: Additional: taurus-2.siol.net A 193.189.160.12
ttl0
08:15:19.04: [134] RESOLV: Additional: taurus-3.siol.net A 193.189.161.24
ttl0
08:15:19.04: [134] SMTP: trying Internet host 193.189.160.5 port 25
08:15:19.04: [134] SMTP: reusing existing SMTP association con=67DAE8
08:15:19.04: [134] SMTP: command sent 'MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=2150'
08:15:19.04: [134] SMTP: command sent 'RCPT TO:<brane_lupsina at usa dot net>
NOTIFY=NEVER'
08:15:19.04: [134] SMTP: command sent 'DATA'
08:15:19.09: [134] SMTP: protocol response '250 Sender <> and extensions
(SIZE=2150) Ok'
08:15:19.09: [134] SMTP: end of protocol response
08:15:19.42: [134] SMTP: protocol response '550 relaying mail to usa.net is
not allowed'
08:15:19.42: [134] SMTP: end of protocol response
08:15:19.42: [134] SMTP: Recipient brane_lupsina at usa dot net: Failed status
5.1.1 (bad destination mailbox address)
08:15:19.42: [134] SMTP: protocol response '503 No recipients specified'
08:15:19.42: [134] SMTP: end of protocol response
08:15:19.42: [134] SMTP: mail transaction abandoned because all pipelined
RCPT commands failed
08:15:19.45: [134] SMTP: deliver() mq=680F70 completely processed
08:15:48.84: [259] SMTP: client socket closing
Any help?
------------------------------------
robert.ceglar at nek dot si
tel. +386 07 4802 265
fax. +386 07 4921 194
------------------------------------
NEK, Vrbina 12, 8270 Krsko, SLOVENIA
Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 07:48:14 -0500 (EST)
From: "Douglas D. Anderson" <dandersn at purdue dot edu>
Subject: Re: Relaying mail is not allowed
Sounds to me like you may have to contact your ISP to allow your server to
relay mail through it.
On Fri, 12 May 2000, Robert Ceglar wrote:
> Hello!
>
> My configuration is WorldMail 2.0 on Win NT 4.0 SP 5.
> Routing for non-local mail is set to : Use Domain Name Server
>
> Connection to ISP (mail.siol.net) trough ISDN using ETRN command.
> I want that mail coming for particular user is copied (resend) to
> another e-mail address. I have configured copy address
> trough message store user settings:
> - configure
> - advanced
> - send_copy_of_all_mail_to: brane_lupsina at usa dot net
>
> It does not work as expected.
> I am geting following messages in SMTP log file.
>
> 08:15:18.99: [134] RESOLV: timeout waiting for DNS response
> 08:15:18.99: [134] RESOLV: Query name server 'taurus-1.siol.net'
> 08:15:18.99: [134] RESOLV: trying Internet address 193.189.160.11 ...
> 08:15:19.04: [134] RESOLV: Received DNS response for QNAME='mail.siol.net'
> QTYPE=1, AA=1 RCODE=0
> 08:15:19.04: [134] RESOLV: Answer: mail.siol.net A 193.189.160.5 ttl
> 08:15:19.04: [134] RESOLV: Authority: siol.net NS taurus-1.siol.net
> ttl0
> 08:15:19.04: [134] RESOLV: Authority: siol.net NS taurus-2.siol.net
> ttl0
> 08:15:19.04: [134] RESOLV: Authority: siol.net NS taurus-3.siol.net
> ttl0
> 08:15:19.04: [134] RESOLV: Additional: taurus-1.siol.net A 193.189.160.11
> ttl0
> 08:15:19.04: [134] RESOLV: Additional: taurus-2.siol.net A 193.189.160.12
> ttl0
> 08:15:19.04: [134] RESOLV: Additional: taurus-3.siol.net A 193.189.161.24
> ttl0
> 08:15:19.04: [134] SMTP: trying Internet host 193.189.160.5 port 25
> 08:15:19.04: [134] SMTP: reusing existing SMTP association con=67DAE8
> 08:15:19.04: [134] SMTP: command sent 'MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=2150'
> 08:15:19.04: [134] SMTP: command sent 'RCPT TO:<brane_lupsina at usa dot net>
> NOTIFY=NEVER'
> 08:15:19.04: [134] SMTP: command sent 'DATA'
> 08:15:19.09: [134] SMTP: protocol response '250 Sender <> and extensions
> (SIZE=2150) Ok'
> 08:15:19.09: [134] SMTP: end of protocol response
> 08:15:19.42: [134] SMTP: protocol response '550 relaying mail to usa.net is
> not allowed'
> 08:15:19.42: [134] SMTP: end of protocol response
> 08:15:19.42: [134] SMTP: Recipient brane_lupsina at usa dot net: Failed status
> 5.1.1 (bad destination mailbox address)
> 08:15:19.42: [134] SMTP: protocol response '503 No recipients specified'
> 08:15:19.42: [134] SMTP: end of protocol response
> 08:15:19.42: [134] SMTP: mail transaction abandoned because all pipelined
> RCPT commands failed
> 08:15:19.45: [134] SMTP: deliver() mq=680F70 completely processed
> 08:15:48.84: [259] SMTP: client socket closing
>
> Any help?
>
> ------------------------------------
> robert.ceglar at nek dot si
> tel. +386 07 4802 265
> fax. +386 07 4921 194
> ------------------------------------
> NEK, Vrbina 12, 8270 Krsko, SLOVENIA
>
>
Douglas Anderson
dandersn at purdue dot edu
Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 15:47:55 -0400
From: "Mary A. Kelly" <mkelly at sso dot org>
Subject: No transport provider was available...
I have a problem with people who use Microsoft Outlook and send a
message to a group of people from an address list. The send an e-mail
and recieve the following message for each person they sent a message to
on the list: "No transport provider was available for delivery to this
recipient"
Anyone know what this is all about? Thanks Mary Kelly
--
Mary A. Kelly
State Service Organization Library
444 N. Capitol St. NW #337, Washington, DC 20001
202 624-5487/ mkelly at sso dot org
From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Relaying mail is not allowed
Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 08:32:20 +0100
Your outbound non-local mail did not appear to use DNS to find USA>NET - it
has tried to route to the mail server at your isp - mail.siol.net
The mail server for USA.net would have resulted in a different mail server
name.
In fact that is a normal set-up in a dial-up environment - you send your
outbound mail to your ISP and it relays it for you. However, perhaps you
are trying to route through the "wrong" SIOL mail server.
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Ceglar [mailto:robert.ceglar at nek dot si]
Sent: 12 May 2000 12:41
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Relaying mail is not allowed
Hello!
My configuration is WorldMail 2.0 on Win NT 4.0 SP 5.
Routing for non-local mail is set to : Use Domain Name Server
Connection to ISP (mail.siol.net) trough ISDN using ETRN command.
I want that mail coming for particular user is copied (resend) to
another e-mail address. I have configured copy address
trough message store user settings:
- configure
- advanced
- send_copy_of_all_mail_to: brane_lupsina at usa dot net
It does not work as expected.
I am geting following messages in SMTP log file.
08:15:18.99: [134] RESOLV: timeout waiting for DNS response
08:15:18.99: [134] RESOLV: Query name server 'taurus-1.siol.net'
08:15:18.99: [134] RESOLV: trying Internet address 193.189.160.11 ...
08:15:19.04: [134] RESOLV: Received DNS response for QNAME='mail.siol.net'
QTYPE=1, AA=1 RCODE=0
08:15:19.04: [134] RESOLV: Answer: mail.siol.net A 193.189.160.5 ttl
08:15:19.04: [134] RESOLV: Authority: siol.net NS taurus-1.siol.net
ttl0
08:15:19.04: [134] RESOLV: Authority: siol.net NS taurus-2.siol.net
ttl0
08:15:19.04: [134] RESOLV: Authority: siol.net NS taurus-3.siol.net
ttl0
08:15:19.04: [134] RESOLV: Additional: taurus-1.siol.net A 193.189.160.11
ttl0
08:15:19.04: [134] RESOLV: Additional: taurus-2.siol.net A 193.189.160.12
ttl0
08:15:19.04: [134] RESOLV: Additional: taurus-3.siol.net A 193.189.161.24
ttl0
08:15:19.04: [134] SMTP: trying Internet host 193.189.160.5 port 25
08:15:19.04: [134] SMTP: reusing existing SMTP association con=67DAE8
08:15:19.04: [134] SMTP: command sent 'MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=2150'
08:15:19.04: [134] SMTP: command sent 'RCPT TO:<brane_lupsina at usa dot net>
NOTIFY=NEVER'
08:15:19.04: [134] SMTP: command sent 'DATA'
08:15:19.09: [134] SMTP: protocol response '250 Sender <> and extensions
(SIZE=2150) Ok'
08:15:19.09: [134] SMTP: end of protocol response
08:15:19.42: [134] SMTP: protocol response '550 relaying mail to usa.net is
not allowed'
08:15:19.42: [134] SMTP: end of protocol response
08:15:19.42: [134] SMTP: Recipient brane_lupsina at usa dot net: Failed status
5.1.1 (bad destination mailbox address)
08:15:19.42: [134] SMTP: protocol response '503 No recipients specified'
08:15:19.42: [134] SMTP: end of protocol response
08:15:19.42: [134] SMTP: mail transaction abandoned because all pipelined
RCPT commands failed
08:15:19.45: [134] SMTP: deliver() mq=680F70 completely processed
08:15:48.84: [259] SMTP: client socket closing
Any help?
------------------------------------
robert.ceglar at nek dot si
tel. +386 07 4802 265
fax. +386 07 4921 194
------------------------------------
NEK, Vrbina 12, 8270 Krsko, SLOVENIA
From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: No transport provider was available...
Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 08:49:09 +0100
You will see what is happening best by running ISOTRACE on the mail server -
and turn up the trace level for SMTP.
What I suspect you will find is that the mail server returns an error
response for some of the recipients. Outlook MAPI POP/SMTP module seems to
decide that this error means that it has to move on to the next MAPI mail
service provider to see if it can handle it better ... you probably do not
have any ... so you get the error that there are no available service
providers.
If my interpretation is correct then getting around this requires either
Microsoft change their code or your mail server accepts all of the addresses
or you ensure that all addresses in the list are valid.
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Mary A. Kelly [mailto:mkelly at sso dot org]
Sent: 12 May 2000 20:48
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: No transport provider was available...
I have a problem with people who use Microsoft Outlook and send a
message to a group of people from an address list. The send an e-mail
and recieve the following message for each person they sent a message to
on the list: "No transport provider was available for delivery to this
recipient"
Anyone know what this is all about? Thanks Mary Kelly
--
Mary A. Kelly
State Service Organization Library
444 N. Capitol St. NW #337, Washington, DC 20001
202 624-5487/ mkelly at sso dot org
From: "SveN Schuchmann" <schuchmann at schleissheimer dot de>
Subject: LDAP Adress Book
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 09:16:31 +0200
Hi,
im trying to set up a Adress Book for our
LAN with Eudora-Worldmail server. I am
looking for a client (Windows) so that every
user can add/delete/modify entries in the
LDAP Adress Book on the Eudora server.
Is there a client available?
Can I use the adress book out of my Browsers
(Netscape, Internet Explorer)?
cu SveN
--
Sven Schuchmann
email: sven at schuchmann dot de
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 11:27:47 -0700
From: Tim Craft <tim at thefaxcompany dot com>
Subject: Question about relay and spammers.
Yes, I got hit by a spammer using my Worldmail to send out junk email. Egads.
So what do I do? I restricted his IP address, but nothing will stop him
from switching it to something else.
I found this on the FAQ:
***How can I prevent unauthorized relaying through my WorldMail server?
***You can configure the WorldMail server to reject relayed messages (mail
going ***outside your server) by
setting the SMTP relay restriction to only permit access
***from IP addresses within your sub-net.
But... I'm a newbie, and I don't know how to do this! Any suggestion?
Thanks!
Tim Craft
Faxts Now
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 14:09:56 -0500
From: Shinji Kuwayama <shinji at kuwayama dot com>
Subject: Another question about relay and spammers.
I've used the instructions provided by the FAQ to restrict message
relaying to specific trusted networks, and it works swell, but how can I
configure a forwarding address without lifting those restrictions?
Thanks,
Shinji Kuwayama
From: "SveN Schuchmann" <schuchmann at schleissheimer dot de>
Subject: URGEND: Exceeded local data allocation limit
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 14:14:49 +0200
Hi,
we are running Eudora Worldmail on a
Windows NT4 Server SP6a. And we have
about 3GB of mails on the Eudora IMAP
Server. Free Diskspace on the server
is 16GB.
Now if someone sends a mail to us
he gets an error:
>>> DATA
<<< 552 Exceeded local data allocation limit.
554 mailto:user at schleissheimer.de. dot . Service unavailable
This happens even if I try to send a mail.
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cu SveN
--
Sven Schuchmann
email: sven at schuchmann dot de
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 09:02:43 -0500
From: Gabriel Caunt <gabe at rbdg dot com>
Subject: Re: Worldmail LDAP
I would like to do exactly the same thing, with exactly the same software,
but have not yet been able to figure this one out.
Andrew Cyr wrote:
> I would appreciate advice on setting up the Worldmail server to provide
> a dynamic address book for our users. They are using Netscape Messenger
> as their client.
Gabriel Caunt
RUSS BERGER DESIGN GROUP
4006 Beltline Suite 160
Dallas, TX 75001
972/661-5222
972/934-3935 fax
www.rbdg.com
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 08:51:00 -0700
From: Keith Lockliear <djtech01 at ws6 dot com>
Subject: User License Costs?
Since Eudora is closed for the holiday weekend, does anyone know what they
charge for user licenses? I need 1,000 and wanted to get a ballpark.
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 10:48:39 -0400
From: Andrew Cyr <acyr at admin.seu dot edu>
Subject: Re: ISOCOR IMSFA SDK
I'm looking for a copy of the ISOCOR "N-PLEX API Software Development Kit."
Apparently it's no longer available from ISOCOR (Critical Path).
Thanks,
Andrew Cyr
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 11:02:44 -0400
From: Curt Van Tassell <curtvt at aipl.arsusda dot gov>
Subject: Subscribing from Perl script
I have a web form to subscribe to a list and I am having trouble getting
Worldmail to recognize the requests. I had been using a pipe to sendmail
(using open(MAIL,"|/usr/lib/sendmail listserv\@mailserv; then print MAIL
"headers"; etc) to create the messages. This method had worked for a while
and recently stopped. I am not sure what change. Using this method I can
get a successful registration but the server will not respond to an "intro
list" command. I have also tried using MIME::Lite for Perl to generate the
messages. Although the messages look OK, I get neither successful
enrollment or response to the intro command. Any ideas would be appreciated.
Curt
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
Curt Van Tassell
Research Geneticist
E-Mail: curtvt at aipl.arsusda dot gov
Animal Improvement Programs Lab. & Gene Evaluation and Mapping Lab.
ARS, USDA Tel: (301) 504-9271/6501
Building 005, Rm 318, BARC-West FAX: (301) 504-8414
Beltsville, MD 20705-2350 http://aipl.arsusda.gov
Some luck lies in not getting what you thought you wanted but getting
what you have, which once you have it you may be smart enough to see is
what you would have wanted had you known.
- Garrison Keillor
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 15:44:00 -0400
From: Curt Van Tassell <curtvt at aipl.arsusda dot gov>
Subject: Subscribing to lists
I have had success creating the Perl scripts using Mail::Sendmail. However,
now worldmail is telling me that the lists don't exist - when I can see
them in the "management center." I send the message subscribe <list> and
info <list>. The message returned says that:
Command to be processed: subscribe <list>
The above mentioned list is not present
Command to be processed: intro <list>
The above mentioned list is not present
I would appreciate any suggestions.
Curt
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
Curt Van Tassell
Research Geneticist
E-Mail: curtvt at aipl.arsusda dot gov
Animal Improvement Programs Lab. & Gene Evaluation and Mapping Lab.
ARS, USDA Tel: (301) 504-9271/6501
Building 005, Rm 318, BARC-West FAX: (301) 504-8414
Beltsville, MD 20705-2350 http://aipl.arsusda.gov
Some luck lies in not getting what you thought you wanted but getting
what you have, which once you have it you may be smart enough to see is
what you would have wanted had you known.
- Garrison Keillor
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
From: "Sergio Vianna" <svianna at fb.suzano.com dot br>
Subject: Migrating mail accounts
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 14:47:10 -0300
Hi!
I hope you may help me.
We need to migrate all of our 850 mail accounts (WorldMail Server v.2.0) to
a new server.
What we have to do ?
1- Install Windows NT server in the new server.
2- Install WorldMail
3- Install additional licenses
4- Migrate accounts (how to do it ?)
It's no possible to restore a NT backup in to the new server because the
current server and the new one are different( one is Compaq 166MHz and the
other an IBM NetFinity 5000).
Thanks for any tips and hints.
Regards,
Sergio Vianna
Tecnologia e Suporte Tecnico
CSPC
(0xx11) 4745-5677
From: "Sergio Vianna" <svianna at fb.suzano.com dot br>
Subject: Re: Migrating mail accounts
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 17:09:20 -0300
Rich,
thanks for your help !
When you export registry data to a file using nibl does it include all
information needed to import it on another server ?
I mean not only directories but user passwords, info, config, etc.
Regards,
Sergio Vianna
Tecnologia e Suporte Tecnico
CSPC
(0xx11) 4745-5677
-----Mensagem original-----
De: Richard Anderson <richa at mitchellair dot com>
Para: Sergio Vianna <svianna at fb.suzano.com dot br>
Data: Sexta-feira, 2 de Junho de 2000 15:24
Assunto: RE: Migrating mail accounts
>Check this out . . .
>
>It may help you find the answer you are looking for by looking at the
>settings in the export file referred to in steps 7-10.
>
>How to move your mailboxes to another drive:
>
>1. Open the Management Center and right click Internet Mail, then select
>Configure
>2. Click the Mailboxes tab
>3. Change the "Default root directory for user mailboxes" entry to the
>desired directory and click OK
>4. Go to the present location of the user mailboxes (default is Program
>Files\WorldMail\SMTP\Mailboxs) and move them into the new location
>5. Now go to a Command Prompt (click Start:Run, type cmd and click OK)
>6. Go to the Program Files\WorldMail\SMTP directory
>7. At the command prompt type "nibl -e -f <filename.ext>" where
>"<filename.ext>" is the name of the file you wish to save the configuration
>information to
>8. You will be asked for the read password for the server, then the
>information will be exported
>9. NOTE: If you end up with a zero byte file, then command did not complete
>successfully. Be sure you entered the password correctly, or try adding -v
>to the command line. e.g, "nibl -v -e -f <filename.ext>"
>10. Once the information has been saved, open the file with Notepad
>11. In this file, there will be a line that says: MAILBOX=C:\Program
>Files\WorldMail\SMTP\MailBoxs\user@domain
>12. Using Search and Replace, replace the old location with the new one,
>then save the file
>13. Next, re-import the file by typing "nibl -i -f <filename.ext>",
>replacing "<filename.ext>" with the name of the data file
>14. Once the import is complete, restart the server
>15. Any new users created will have their mailboxes created in the location
>you specified
>
>Once you export the mailbox settings you can check and see how it is
>configured and make any modifcations you want. By the way, this is
>practically a direct export from the registry located HKLM/Software/Isocor
>(I had problems with the above procedure and had to make modifications
>directly to the registry. I made backups of everything, of course.)
>
>Look this over. This procedure may allow you to find the answer you are
>looking for.
>
>Rich
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Sergio Vianna [mailto:svianna at fb.suzano.com dot br]
>Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 12:47 PM
>To: Subscribers of WorldMail
>Subject: Migrating mail accounts
>
>
>Hi!
>I hope you may help me.
>We need to migrate all of our 850 mail accounts (WorldMail Server v.2.0) to
>a new server.
>What we have to do ?
>
>1- Install Windows NT server in the new server.
>2- Install WorldMail
>3- Install additional licenses
>4- Migrate accounts (how to do it ?)
>
>It's no possible to restore a NT backup in to the new server because the
>current server and the new one are different( one is Compaq 166MHz and the
>other an IBM NetFinity 5000).
>Thanks for any tips and hints.
>Regards,
>
>Sergio Vianna
>Tecnologia e Suporte Tecnico
>CSPC
>(0xx11) 4745-5677
>
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 21:33:03 -0700
From: William Hultman <whultman at home dot com>
Subject: Re: Migrating mail accounts
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Hi,
Better yet, have a look at
<http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/1420hq.html>. It explains exactly how
to move from one server to another. Keep in mind that this procedure
assumes directory locations will be the same on each machine. If the new
machine will have a different directory structure, you will need to make
the appropriate changes within the nibl export before importing it into the
new server.
Bill
At 05:09 PM 6/2/00 -0300, you wrote:
>Rich,
> thanks for your help !
>When you export registry data to a file using nibl does it include all
>information needed to import it on another server ?
>I mean not only directories but user passwords, info, config, etc.
>Regards,
>
>Sergio Vianna
>Tecnologia e Suporte Tecnico
>CSPC
>(0xx11) 4745-5677
>-----Mensagem original-----
>De: Richard Anderson <richa at mitchellair dot com>
>Para: Sergio Vianna <svianna at fb.suzano.com dot br>
>Data: Sexta-feira, 2 de Junho de 2000 15:24
>Assunto: RE: Migrating mail accounts
>
>
> >Check this out . . .
> >
> >It may help you find the answer you are looking for by looking at the
> >settings in the export file referred to in steps 7-10.
> >
> >How to move your mailboxes to another drive:
> >
> >1. Open the Management Center and right click Internet Mail, then select
> >Configure
> >2. Click the Mailboxes tab
> >3. Change the "Default root directory for user mailboxes" entry to the
> >desired directory and click OK
> >4. Go to the present location of the user mailboxes (default is Program
> >Files\WorldMail\SMTP\Mailboxs) and move them into the new location
> >5. Now go to a Command Prompt (click Start:Run, type cmd and click OK)
> >6. Go to the Program Files\WorldMail\SMTP directory
> >7. At the command prompt type "nibl -e -f <filename.ext>" where
> >"<filename.ext>" is the name of the file you wish to save the configuration
> >information to
> >8. You will be asked for the read password for the server, then the
> >information will be exported
> >9. NOTE: If you end up with a zero byte file, then command did not complete
> >successfully. Be sure you entered the password correctly, or try adding -v
> >to the command line. e.g, "nibl -v -e -f <filename.ext>"
> >10. Once the information has been saved, open the file with Notepad
> >11. In this file, there will be a line that says: MAILBOX=C:\Program
> >Files\WorldMail\SMTP\MailBoxs\user@domain
> >12. Using Search and Replace, replace the old location with the new one,
> >then save the file
> >13. Next, re-import the file by typing "nibl -i -f <filename.ext>",
> >replacing "<filename.ext>" with the name of the data file
> >14. Once the import is complete, restart the server
> >15. Any new users created will have their mailboxes created in the location
> >you specified
> >
> >Once you export the mailbox settings you can check and see how it is
> >configured and make any modifcations you want. By the way, this is
> >practically a direct export from the registry located HKLM/Software/Isocor
> >(I had problems with the above procedure and had to make modifications
> >directly to the registry. I made backups of everything, of course.)
> >
> >Look this over. This procedure may allow you to find the answer you are
> >looking for.
> >
> >Rich
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Sergio Vianna [mailto:svianna at fb.suzano.com dot br]
> >Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 12:47 PM
> >To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> >Subject: Migrating mail accounts
> >
> >
> >Hi!
> >I hope you may help me.
> >We need to migrate all of our 850 mail accounts (WorldMail Server v.2.0) to
> >a new server.
> >What we have to do ?
> >
> >1- Install Windows NT server in the new server.
> >2- Install WorldMail
> >3- Install additional licenses
> >4- Migrate accounts (how to do it ?)
> >
> >It's no possible to restore a NT backup in to the new server because the
> >current server and the new one are different( one is Compaq 166MHz and the
> >other an IBM NetFinity 5000).
> >Thanks for any tips and hints.
> >Regards,
> >
> >Sergio Vianna
> >Tecnologia e Suporte Tecnico
> >CSPC
> >(0xx11) 4745-5677
> >
William B. Hultman
<<mailto:whultman at home dot com>whultman@home.<whultman at home dot com>com>
"I am not responsible for anything contained in this message.
It appears that my cats have learned to type."
----------
"Only wimps use tape backup: real men just upload their important stuff on
ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it..."
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<html>
<font size=3>Hi,<br>
Better yet, have a look at
<<a href="http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/1420hq.html" eudora="autourl">http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/142
It explains exactly how to move from one server to another. Keep in mind
that this procedure assumes directory locations will be the same on each
machine. If the new machine will have a different directory structure,
you will need to make the appropriate changes within the nibl export
before importing it into the new server. <br>
<br>
Bill<br>
<br>
At 05:09 PM 6/2/00 -0300, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite cite>Rich,<br>
thanks for your help !<br>
When you export registry data to a file using nibl does it include
all<br>
information needed to import it on another server ?<br>
I mean not only directories but user passwords, info, config, etc.<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Sergio Vianna<br>
Tecnologia e Suporte Tecnico<br>
CSPC<br>
(0xx11) 4745-5677<br>
-----Mensagem original-----<br>
De: Richard Anderson <richa at mitchellair dot com><br>
Para: Sergio Vianna <svianna at fb.suzano.com dot br><br>
Data: Sexta-feira, 2 de Junho de 2000 15:24<br>
Assunto: RE: Migrating mail accounts<br>
<br>
<br>
>Check this out . . .<br>
><br>
>It may help you find the answer you are looking for by looking at
the<br>
>settings in the export file referred to in steps 7-10.<br>
><br>
>How to move your mailboxes to another drive:<br>
><br>
>1. Open the Management Center and right click Internet Mail, then
select<br>
>Configure<br>
>2. Click the Mailboxes tab<br>
>3. Change the "Default root directory for user mailboxes"
entry to the<br>
>desired directory and click OK<br>
>4. Go to the present location of the user mailboxes (default is
Program<br>
>Files\WorldMail\SMTP\Mailboxs) and move them into the new
location<br>
>5. Now go to a Command Prompt (click Start:Run, type cmd and click
OK)<br>
>6. Go to the Program Files\WorldMail\SMTP directory<br>
>7. At the command prompt type "nibl -e -f
<filename.ext>" where<br>
>"<filename.ext>" is the name of the file you wish to
save the configuration<br>
>information to<br>
>8. You will be asked for the read password for the server, then
the<br>
>information will be exported<br>
>9. NOTE: If you end up with a zero byte file, then command did not
complete<br>
>successfully. Be sure you entered the password correctly, or try
adding -v<br>
>to the command line. e.g, "nibl -v -e -f
<filename.ext>"<br>
>10. Once the information has been saved, open the file with
Notepad<br>
>11. In this file, there will be a line that says:
MAILBOX=C:\Program<br>
>Files\WorldMail\SMTP\MailBoxs\user@domain<br>
>12. Using Search and Replace, replace the old location with the new
one,<br>
>then save the file<br>
>13. Next, re-import the file by typing "nibl -i -f
<filename.ext>",<br>
>replacing "<filename.ext>" with the name of the data
file<br>
>14. Once the import is complete, restart the server<br>
>15. Any new users created will have their mailboxes created in the
location<br>
>you specified<br>
><br>
>Once you export the mailbox settings you can check and see how it
is<br>
>configured and make any modifcations you want. By the way, this
is<br>
>practically a direct export from the registry located
HKLM/Software/Isocor<br>
>(I had problems with the above procedure and had to make
modifications<br>
>directly to the registry. I made backups of everything, of
course.)<br>
><br>
>Look this over. This procedure may allow you to find the answer
you are<br>
>looking for.<br>
><br>
>Rich<br>
><br>
><br>
>-----Original Message-----<br>
>From: Sergio Vianna
[<a href="mailto:svianna at fb.suzano.com.br" eudora="autourl">mailto:svianna at fb dot suzano dot com dot br</a>]<br>
>Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 12:47 PM<br>
>To: Subscribers of WorldMail<br>
>Subject: Migrating mail accounts<br>
><br>
><br>
>Hi!<br>
>I hope you may help me.<br>
>We need to migrate all of our 850 mail accounts (WorldMail Server
v.2.0) to<br>
>a new server.<br>
>What we have to do ?<br>
><br>
>1- Install Windows NT server in the new server.<br>
>2- Install WorldMail<br>
>3- Install additional licenses<br>
>4- Migrate accounts (how to do it ?)<br>
><br>
>It's no possible to restore a NT backup in to the new server because
the<br>
>current server and the new one are different( one is Compaq 166MHz
and the<br>
>other an IBM NetFinity 5000).<br>
>Thanks for any tips and hints.<br>
>Regards,<br>
><br>
>Sergio Vianna<br>
>Tecnologia e Suporte Tecnico<br>
>CSPC<br>
>(0xx11) 4745-5677<br>
></font></blockquote><br>
<font size=3><br>
</font><font size=3 color="#000080"><b>William B. Hultman <br>
</b></font><font size=3><<a href="mailto:whultman at home.com">whultman</a>@home.<a href="mailto:whultman@home dot com">com</a>><br
<b>"I am not responsible for anything contained in this message.
<br>
It appears that my cats have learned to type." <br>
<br>
<hr>
</b></font><font size=2>"Only wimps use tape backup: <i>real</i> men
just upload their important stuff on ftp, and let the rest of the
world mirror it..." </font></html>
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Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 21:33:03 -0700
From: William Hultman <whultman at home dot com>
Subject: Re: Migrating mail accounts
Hi,
Better yet, have a look at
<http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/1420hq.html>. It explains exactly how
to move from one server to another. Keep in mind that this procedure
assumes directory locations will be the same on each machine. If the new
machine will have a different directory structure, you will need to make
the appropriate changes within the nibl export before importing it into the
new server.
Bill
At 05:09 PM 6/2/00 -0300, you wrote:
>Rich,
> thanks for your help !
>When you export registry data to a file using nibl does it include all
>information needed to import it on another server ?
>I mean not only directories but user passwords, info, config, etc.
>Regards,
>
>Sergio Vianna
>Tecnologia e Suporte Tecnico
>CSPC
>(0xx11) 4745-5677
>-----Mensagem original-----
>De: Richard Anderson <richa at mitchellair dot com>
>Para: Sergio Vianna <svianna at fb.suzano.com dot br>
>Data: Sexta-feira, 2 de Junho de 2000 15:24
>Assunto: RE: Migrating mail accounts
>
>
> >Check this out . . .
> >
> >It may help you find the answer you are looking for by looking at the
> >settings in the export file referred to in steps 7-10.
> >
> >How to move your mailboxes to another drive:
> >
> >1. Open the Management Center and right click Internet Mail, then select
> >Configure
> >2. Click the Mailboxes tab
> >3. Change the "Default root directory for user mailboxes" entry to the
> >desired directory and click OK
> >4. Go to the present location of the user mailboxes (default is Program
> >Files\WorldMail\SMTP\Mailboxs) and move them into the new location
> >5. Now go to a Command Prompt (click Start:Run, type cmd and click OK)
> >6. Go to the Program Files\WorldMail\SMTP directory
> >7. At the command prompt type "nibl -e -f <filename.ext>" where
> >"<filename.ext>" is the name of the file you wish to save the configuration
> >information to
> >8. You will be asked for the read password for the server, then the
> >information will be exported
> >9. NOTE: If you end up with a zero byte file, then command did not complete
> >successfully. Be sure you entered the password correctly, or try adding -v
> >to the command line. e.g, "nibl -v -e -f <filename.ext>"
> >10. Once the information has been saved, open the file with Notepad
> >11. In this file, there will be a line that says: MAILBOX=C:\Program
> >Files\WorldMail\SMTP\MailBoxs\user@domain
> >12. Using Search and Replace, replace the old location with the new one,
> >then save the file
> >13. Next, re-import the file by typing "nibl -i -f <filename.ext>",
> >replacing "<filename.ext>" with the name of the data file
> >14. Once the import is complete, restart the server
> >15. Any new users created will have their mailboxes created in the location
> >you specified
> >
> >Once you export the mailbox settings you can check and see how it is
> >configured and make any modifcations you want. By the way, this is
> >practically a direct export from the registry located HKLM/Software/Isocor
> >(I had problems with the above procedure and had to make modifications
> >directly to the registry. I made backups of everything, of course.)
> >
> >Look this over. This procedure may allow you to find the answer you are
> >looking for.
> >
> >Rich
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Sergio Vianna [mailto:svianna at fb.suzano.com dot br]
> >Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 12:47 PM
> >To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> >Subject: Migrating mail accounts
> >
> >
> >Hi!
> >I hope you may help me.
> >We need to migrate all of our 850 mail accounts (WorldMail Server v.2.0) to
> >a new server.
> >What we have to do ?
> >
> >1- Install Windows NT server in the new server.
> >2- Install WorldMail
> >3- Install additional licenses
> >4- Migrate accounts (how to do it ?)
> >
> >It's no possible to restore a NT backup in to the new server because the
> >current server and the new one are different( one is Compaq 166MHz and the
> >other an IBM NetFinity 5000).
> >Thanks for any tips and hints.
> >Regards,
> >
> >Sergio Vianna
> >Tecnologia e Suporte Tecnico
> >CSPC
> >(0xx11) 4745-5677
> >
William B. Hultman
<<mailto:whultman at home dot com>whultman@home.<whultman at home dot com>com>
"I am not responsible for anything contained in this message.
It appears that my cats have learned to type."
----------
"Only wimps use tape backup: real men just upload their important stuff on
ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it..."
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 10:41:38 +0100
From: Ola Boman <ola.boman at danderyd dot se>
Subject: Re: Worldmail LDAP
Is this something that can't be done? I have tried to do the same thing as the
two previous writers without any luck. If someone has managed to do this
please tell us how to do it.
Thanks
Ola Boman
ola.boman at danderyd dot se
Gabriel Caunt skrev:
> I would like to do exactly the same thing, with exactly the same software,
> but have not yet been able to figure this one out.
>
> Andrew Cyr wrote:
>
> > I would appreciate advice on setting up the Worldmail server to provide
> > a dynamic address book for our users. They are using Netscape Messenger
> > as their client.
>
> Gabriel Caunt
> RUSS BERGER DESIGN GROUP
> 4006 Beltline Suite 160
> Dallas, TX 75001
> 972/661-5222
> 972/934-3935 fax
> www.rbdg.com
From: "Edward Gowen" <egowen at msn dot com>
Subject: Attachment Size, etc...
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 14:06:28 -0400
Does anyone know what the maximum file size for messages and attachments?
Also... how and where is this changed?
We want users to be able to get mail addressed to both
user at server.domain dot org and user at domain dot org. We have an MX record
(domain.org) that points to the host (A) record - host.domain.org. Mail
addresses to user at domain dot org works fine but mail addresses to
user at host.domain dot org loops and is refused.
One last question. We would like to prevent relaying but want all of our
users to be able to send and receive mail both when locally connected and
when connected via one of several ISPs.
Your help is sincerely appreciated!
Regards,
Ed
--------------------------------------------------------
Edward J Gowen, Jr.
Technical Support Specialist
Georgia Department of Education - Educational Technology Center - Macon
100 College Station Drive - Building C - Macon, Georgia 31206-5144
Voice: (912) 471-5380 - Fax: (912) 471-5385
Internet Email: Edward_Gowen at email.etcmcn dot org or egowen at msn dot com
http://egowen.net
From: "Andrew McClymont" <andrewmcclymont at d-link dot net>
Subject: RE: Attachment Size, etc...
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 16:13:42 -0300
1. I beleive that there is a per server coniguration for max attachment size
(properties of the server or internet mail), and a per user limit (advanced
tab?).
2. Is this possible? user at server.domain dot org?? Wouldn't it actually be
user at subdomain.domain dot org?
3. This is the one I can give a little more help:
a long time ago I asked the same question and someone told me that I should
use NTmail as a filtering software (actually NTmail is a another
smtp/pop3/imap server). NTmail would work as a proxy between port 25 (smtp)
and the Worldmail server (you must configure it into another port). It
seems that under NTmail you can set wich users are allowed to SEND email, so
if the FROM: field is true-user at mydomain dot com then it is allowed to be sent.
Kinda stupid you might say but those spameers are actually some sort of
robots, so this might very well stop it.
I thought about another option, there is some sort of standard that
requieres the email clients to FIRST check the pop3 sever (remeber that pop3
DOES use userid/password), when a user is validated its ip address is
remembered, only after that it can send emails through the smtp server (the
smtp server only allows the valid ip address to send emails).
I beleive Worldmail does not have this feature... or does it?
Just ideas,
Andrew McClymont
> Does anyone know what the maximum file size for messages and attachments?
> Also... how and where is this changed?
>
> We want users to be able to get mail addressed to both
> user at server.domain dot org and user at domain dot org. We have an MX record
> (domain.org) that points to the host (A) record - host.domain.org. Mail
> addresses to user at domain dot org works fine but mail addresses to
> user at host.domain dot org loops and is refused.
>
> One last question. We would like to prevent relaying but want all of our
> users to be able to send and receive mail both when locally connected and
> when connected via one of several ISPs.
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 12:50:51 -0500
Subject: Moving Servers
From: dfaber <dfaber at airway2.bsd.uchicago dot edu>
I Have successfully used the NIBL bulk utility to move from one server to
another in the past. However, I have not been able to move my mail from the
C: to the D: drive. I edited the the exported settings document to change
all references or "C:\Program Files\WorldMail" to "D:\Worldmail" The
mailboxes are all in the proper locations, but the console reports them as
all being empty, even though they have messages in them! Click the user,
click the "Advanced" tab, the user mailbox location is reported correctly,
except it shows "O kb" in the directory. Users get a "wrong message store"
error when they try to log in. Help??!
________ David Faber_____________________________
d-faber at uchicago dot edu
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 23:12:52 -0700
From: William Hultman <whultman at home dot com>
Subject: Re: Moving Servers
At 12:50 PM 6/8/00 -0500, dfaber wrote:
>I Have successfully used the NIBL bulk utility to move from one server to
>another in the past. However, I have not been able to move my mail from the
>C: to the D: drive. I edited the the exported settings document to change
>all references or "C:\Program Files\WorldMail" to "D:\Worldmail" The
>mailboxes are all in the proper locations, but the console reports them as
>all being empty, even though they have messages in them! Click the user,
>click the "Advanced" tab, the user mailbox location is reported correctly,
>except it shows "O kb" in the directory. Users get a "wrong message store"
>error when they try to log in. Help??!
>
>________ David Faber_____________________________
> d-faber at uchicago dot edu
Go to <http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/1588hq.html> and follow the
instructions there -- this is what is called a POP3 referral.
Bill
William B. Hultman
<<mailto:whultman at home dot com>whultman@home.<whultman at home dot com>com>
"I am not responsible for anything contained in this message.
It appears that my cats have learned to type."
----------
"Only wimps use tape backup: real men just upload their important stuff on
ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it..."
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 07:47:09 +0100
From: ian <ian at impeccable.org dot uk>
Subject: Re: Worldmail LDAP
I have done this with *limited* success.
To set up a new address book in Netscape Messenger:
Description: WorldMail Directory server
LDAP Server: poirot.impeccable.org.uk
Search Root: ou=impeccable.org.uk, o=Home,c=uk
Port Number: 389
Don't show more than: 100 results
[all other options left blank on both property pages]
(note the space in the search root string. I don't know if this is
significant, but it is what is used in the WorldMail LDAP configuration
so I made sure it was the same here).
Once I've done this, I see a listing of the WorldMail users in the
Address Book (if it doesn't, put a * in the search bar and hit return).
That's the good news. The bad news is that searching doesn't really
work, and the ldap server appears regularly to die (once that has
happened, when doing a search I get a message "Failed to bind to
'WorldMail Directory Server' due to LDAP error 'Can't connect to the
LDAP server' (0x5B)".
You can then go to the WorldMail Management Centre and restart the LDAP
service, but it shouldn't really happen IMHO).
I think the LDAP server in WorldMail needs a bit of sorting out.
Ola Boman wrote:
>
> Is this something that can't be done? I have tried to do the same thing as the
>
Ian.
--
Ian Piper
http://www.impeccable.org.uk
======================================================
1999 Triumph Legend TT - 'A legend in my own lifetime'
======================================================
From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Worldmail LDAP
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:48:36 +0100
As far as I remember ... the LDAP server in Worldmail Server began life as a
port of the University of Michigan (UMich) SLAPD process.
I think that some extra functions might have been added (was there a Eudora
Phonebook Server bolted in) - anyway - you could possibly download the
latest and greatest version of the UMich software and see if it helps
[assuming that they have released an NT version].
I think that Worldmail Server itself uses LDAPv2 to talk to the LDAP server
... so it might be possible to replace one directory server with another.
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: ian [mailto:ian at impeccable.org dot uk]
Sent: 13 June 2000 07:47
To: Ola Boman
Cc: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Re: Worldmail LDAP
I have done this with *limited* success.
To set up a new address book in Netscape Messenger:
Description: WorldMail Directory server
LDAP Server: poirot.impeccable.org.uk
Search Root: ou=impeccable.org.uk, o=Home,c=uk
Port Number: 389
Don't show more than: 100 results
[all other options left blank on both property pages]
(note the space in the search root string. I don't know if this is
significant, but it is what is used in the WorldMail LDAP configuration
so I made sure it was the same here).
Once I've done this, I see a listing of the WorldMail users in the
Address Book (if it doesn't, put a * in the search bar and hit return).
That's the good news. The bad news is that searching doesn't really
work, and the ldap server appears regularly to die (once that has
happened, when doing a search I get a message "Failed to bind to
'WorldMail Directory Server' due to LDAP error 'Can't connect to the
LDAP server' (0x5B)".
You can then go to the WorldMail Management Centre and restart the LDAP
service, but it shouldn't really happen IMHO).
I think the LDAP server in WorldMail needs a bit of sorting out.
Ola Boman wrote:
>
> Is this something that can't be done? I have tried to do the same thing as
the
>
Ian.
--
Ian Piper
http://www.impeccable.org.uk
======================================================
1999 Triumph Legend TT - 'A legend in my own lifetime'
======================================================
From: "John A. Hughes" <jhughes at sportsoftgolf dot com>
Subject: Migrating from Worldmail 2.0 to Exchange 5.5 - Converting existing mail on Worldmail Server ?
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 15:26:06 -0400
We have thrown in the towel waiting for a new version of Worldmail. I plan
on moving 50 users over to Exchange 5.5 during 4th of July weekend.
Has anyone had success converting existing messages on the Worldmail server
to Exchange ?
I doubt that Exchange an import messages from the \mailboxs folder for all
users.
I know I can read messages using Notepad, but if there is an attachment
associated with the email conversion will not work. That is why I plan on
doing this over the weekend, to limit the chance of having to get the
messages resent.
Any help would be appreciated.
John A. Hughes
e jhughes at sportsoftgolf dot com
From: "Andrew McClymont" <andrewmcclymont at d-link dot net>
Subject: RE: Migrating from Worldmail 2.0 to Exchange 5.5 - Converting existing mail on Worldmail Server ?
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 16:48:32 -0300
Hi John,
we are about to do the same thing, we evaluated ms-Exchange but it has too
many features we won't be using. We plan to move to NTmail wich has
built-in anti-spam features, a major problem lately.
Anyway, the person in charge of the migration once told me that Exchange can
import Lotus cc:mail data, and that Worldmail can export to cc:mail format.
Again, I haven't checked it out, but it could be a solution.
There must be a program in the net that downloads the email from your
worldmail server and then uploads it to you exchange server. It could easly
be done, since a major flaw of the SMTP protocol allows you to put any email
in the from and to fields. Anyway, there must be an app somewhere.
Another solution would be to check out what does that Worrldmail
command-line utility exports, I beleive its called nibl.exe.
Best of luck!
-Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: John A. Hughes [mailto:jhughes at sportsoftgolf dot com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 4:26 PM
Subject: Migrating from Worldmail 2.0 to Exchange 5.5 - Converting
existing mail on Worldmail Server ?
We have thrown in the towel waiting for a new version of Worldmail. I plan
on moving 50 users over to Exchange 5.5 during 4th of July weekend.
Has anyone had success converting existing messages on the Worldmail server
to Exchange ?
I doubt that Exchange an import messages from the \mailboxs folder for all
users.
I know I can read messages using Notepad, but if there is an attachment
associated with the email conversion will not work. That is why I plan on
doing this over the weekend, to limit the chance of having to get the
messages resent.
From: "Andrew McClymont" <andrewmcclymont at d-link dot net>
Subject: RE: NTMail
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:37:47 -0300
Sorry about the delay.
Actually what made us choose NTmail was its anti-spam features. Even if an
anti-spam feature is not there you can code it with its programming language
(actually I'm about to check out that scripting language). The liked a-ok
the non-web-based interface, altough I still like Worldmail much more.
We only checked NTmail, iMail and Post.Office... actually we didn't payed
much attention to post.office since it has no anti-spam features built-in.
Bear in mind, that there are anti-spam add-ons for post.office.
We are looking for one product that gives us the whole solution, we don't
want to start adding plug-ins from different companies. Doing that usually
ends up in a disaster... well, that's my opinion.
Sorry I wasn't of any help. Be lucky!
-Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Doherty [mailto:bdoherty at sas.upenn dot edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 5:05 PM
To: Andrew McClymont
Subject: Re: NTMail
Andrew,
I just saw your message and wanted to ask you about your choice of
NTMail. We're about to migrate away from WorldMail too and looked
closely at NTMail and iMail. So far, we're leaning towards iMail
mostly b/c of its support for SMTP-AUTH, SSL for Web access, and what
we find to be a better non-web-based admin interface. NTMail (esp
with JUCE add-on is admittedly better with respect to mail relay
and spam issues (and a few others areas), but we hope to use SMTP-AUTH
to avoid need for some of that.
Would you mind telling me what other products you looked at and why
you selected NTMail in the end?
Thanks,
Brian
Re: Andrew McClymont writes:
>
> Hi John,
> we are about to do the same thing, we evaluated ms-Exchange but it has too
> many features we won't be using. We plan to move to NTmail wich has
> built-in anti-spam features, a major problem lately.
> Anyway, the person in charge of the migration once told me that Exchange
can
> import Lotus cc:mail data, and that Worldmail can export to cc:mail
format.
> Again, I haven't checked it out, but it could be a solution.
>
> There must be a program in the net that downloads the email from your
> worldmail server and then uploads it to you exchange server. It could
easly
> be done, since a major flaw of the SMTP protocol allows you to put any
email
> in the from and to fields. Anyway, there must be an app somewhere.
>
> Another solution would be to check out what does that Worrldmail
> command-line utility exports, I beleive its called nibl.exe.
>
> Best of luck!
> -Andy
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IT Support Specialist SR BS22 DRL
SAS Computing 215-573-HELP
University of Pennsylvania
From: "Andrew McClymont" <andrewmcclymont at d-link dot net>
Subject: RE: Migrating from Worldmail 2.0 to Exchange 5.5 - Converting existing mail on Worldmail Server ?
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 16:06:42 -0300
I'm about to code such a utility:
"it will GET from one pop3 server the emails of a user, and SEND it to a
smtp server. the pop3 server will be your actual pop3 server and the smtp
server shall be your new server. The only info lost will be the original
date/time of the message, although I will embed a first line into each
message saying something like: 'This message was originally written
1/Jul/200 at 13:45'"
Let me know if you (or anybody) is interested in this!
Wish me luck!!
-Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: John A. Hughes [mailto:jhughes at sportsoftgolf dot com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 6:22 PM
To: Andrew McClymont
Subject: RE: Migrating from Worldmail 2.0 to Exchange 5.5 - Converting
existing mail on Worldmail Server ?
Andrew,
Thanks for the quick response. Hope all goes well with your move to NTMail.
I considered NTMail as an option as well as IMail, but group scheduling was
a high priority and I know it will not be used fully, but it was time to
move on.
I did run through "nibl" and it exports everything, but the actual mail. As
you suggested I will look for a file conversion utility. I was able to
locate a site via ccmail called binarytree.com that has a conversion utility
and hope to hear back from them as well.
Exchange does have a Source Extractor Utility that allows me to script the
conversion. I didn't see this before, but will look closely as it appears
to convert messages and attachments.
Our firewall has some nice Spam features, but Worldmail didn't have enough
and we ended up on the ORBS list for a day until I was able to fix.
John A. Hughes
V.P. of Information Services
SportSoft Golf, L.L.C.
p 732.751.8800 x.1015
f 732.751.8812
e jhughes at sportsoftgolf dot com <mailto:jhughes at sportsoftgolf dot com>
www.sportsoftgolf.com <http://www.sportsoftgolf.com>
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www.golfsocietyonline.com <http://www.golfsocietyonline.com>
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew McClymont [mailto:andrewmcclymont at d-link dot net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 3:49 PM
To: John A. Hughes
Cc: worldmail at lists.pensive dot org
Subject: RE: Migrating from Worldmail 2.0 to Exchange 5.5 - Converting
existing mail on Worldmail Server ?
Hi John,
we are about to do the same thing, we evaluated ms-Exchange but it has too
many features we won't be using. We plan to move to NTmail wich has
built-in anti-spam features, a major problem lately.
Anyway, the person in charge of the migration once told me that Exchange can
import Lotus cc:mail data, and that Worldmail can export to cc:mail format.
Again, I haven't checked it out, but it could be a solution.
There must be a program in the net that downloads the email from your
worldmail server and then uploads it to you exchange server. It could easly
be done, since a major flaw of the SMTP protocol allows you to put any email
in the from and to fields. Anyway, there must be an app somewhere.
Another solution would be to check out what does that Worrldmail
command-line utility exports, I beleive its called nibl.exe.
Best of luck!
-Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: John A. Hughes [mailto:jhughes at sportsoftgolf dot com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 4:26 PM
Subject: Migrating from Worldmail 2.0 to Exchange 5.5 - Converting
existing mail on Worldmail Server ?
We have thrown in the towel waiting for a new version of Worldmail. I plan
on moving 50 users over to Exchange 5.5 during 4th of July weekend.
Has anyone had success converting existing messages on the Worldmail server
to Exchange ?
I doubt that Exchange an import messages from the \mailboxs folder for all
users.
I know I can read messages using Notepad, but if there is an attachment
associated with the email conversion will not work. That is why I plan on
doing this over the weekend, to limit the chance of having to get the
messages resent.
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 15:37:33 -0700
From: Larry Coon <larryc at involved dot com>
Subject: user access
Hi there.
I am loosing my mind I guess.
The features list for Worldmail says:
Personal Account Manager— Administrators save time
by letting users do
trivial tasks on their own. The
Personal Account
Manager is a Java applet for use with
standard Web browsers.=
It gives users the ability to
change their
passwords, create auto-reply and vacation
notifications, and
perform other account management
tasks, freeing you,
the administrator, to do more
important things.
So how in the world (pun intended) does one access this fine function???
Larry Coon
Involved, Inc. Get Involved! http://www.involved.com
Voice - (503) 226-4006 Fax - (503) 497-9100
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 10:13:48 -0700
From: Richard Brown <rxbrown at bigfoot dot com>
Subject: Re: user access
use a browser and use socket 888 to connect to server. might be another 8 on
that port address.
IP address : 888
i.e. (200.190.1.1:888)
Larry Coon wrote:
> Hi there.
> I am loosing my mind I guess.
> The features list for Worldmail says:
> Personal Account Manager— Administrators save time
> by letting users do
> trivial tasks on their own. The
> Personal Account
> Manager is a Java applet for use with
> standard Web browsers.
> It gives users the ability to
> change their
> passwords, create auto-reply and vacation
> notifications, and
> perform other account management
> tasks, freeing you,
> the administrator, to do more
> important things.
>
> So how in the world (pun intended) does one access this fine function???
>
> Larry Coon
> Involved, Inc. Get Involved! http://www.involved.com
> Voice - (503) 226-4006 Fax - (503) 497-9100
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 20:44:37 -0700
From: Keith Lockliear <ws6ta at lvcablemodem dot com>
Subject: Restoring lists/e-mail accounts?
I just had a server crash, but managed to get a complete backup before
formatting the drive. Now that worldmail is reinstalled, I'd like to put
it back with all the addresses and setup that I had before.
I've looked for a file or files that have this info but can't find it.
I've even gone as far as deleteing the directory and putting the old copy
in, which still works, but gives the current setup, so there must be a
config file outside of the worldmail directory.
Anyone tried/done this?
Keith
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:50:21 -0700
From: Richard Brown <rxbrown at bigfoot dot com>
Subject: Re: Restoring lists/e-mail accounts?
Keith,
I believe the accounts are stored in the NT registry and the nibl utility
would need to be used off a full backup of the server to export the addresses
and then install them onto the new system. That is how we migrated to a new
server and it seemed to do the trick.
rjb
Keith Lockliear wrote:
> I just had a server crash, but managed to get a complete backup before
> formatting the drive. Now that worldmail is reinstalled, I'd like to put
> it back with all the addresses and setup that I had before.
>
> I've looked for a file or files that have this info but can't find it.
> I've even gone as far as deleteing the directory and putting the old copy
> in, which still works, but gives the current setup, so there must be a
> config file outside of the worldmail directory.
>
> Anyone tried/done this?
>
> Keith
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:55:51 -0700
From: Keith Lockliear <ws6ta at lvcablemodem dot com>
Subject: Re: Restoring lists/e-mail accounts?
>I believe the accounts are stored in the NT registry and the nibl utility
>would need to be used off a full backup of the server to export the addresses
>
>and then install them onto the new system. That is how we migrated to a new
>server and it seemed to do the trick.
So if I don't have a backup (I have a winzip copy of the c-drive), then I'm
screwed?
Keith