The worldmail list archive ending on 4 Apr 2002
Topics covered in this issue include:
1. RE: Cannot Activate Worldmail with Supplied License Key
"Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Wed, 2 Jan 2002 15:17:18 -0000
2. IMAP Server
Matt Hemingway <matt at supplyedge dot com>
Wed, 23 Jan 2002 10:11:06 -0800
3. Re: IMAP Server
"Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
Wed, 23 Jan 2002 13:14:51 -0600
4. RE: IMAP Server
"Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Tue, 29 Jan 2002 18:31:09 -0000
5. Re: IMAP Server
Matt Hemingway <matt at supplyedge dot com>
Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:51:29 -0800
6. repeated EHLO commands
"Paul Lucente" <plucente at hypotenuse dot com>
Wed, 30 Jan 2002 17:33:22 -0500
7. Auto-Stop/start worldmail services?
chris bremer <cbremer at smm dot org>
Wed, 30 Jan 2002 19:48:40 -0600
8. RE: Auto-Stop/start worldmail services?
"Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Thu, 31 Jan 2002 07:13:06 -0000
9. Should I Persevere with Worldmail ?
Andrew <andyh at triode.net dot au>
Tue, 05 Feb 2002 18:36:49 +1100
10. Re: Should I Persevere with Worldmail - Errata
Andrew <andyh at triode.net dot au>
Tue, 05 Feb 2002 18:45:50 +1100
11. Re: Should I Persevere with Worldmail ?
Matt Hemingway <matt at supplyedge dot com>
Tue, 5 Feb 2002 08:52:45 -0800
12. Worldmail Management Console
"Kirk Brittain" <kirkb at piedmontequipment dot com>
Wed, 6 Feb 2002 14:21:31 -0500
13. Moving WorldMail onto new server
"Rick Graham" <RGraham at clarkgroupinc dot com>
Mon, 11 Feb 2002 15:14:50 -0500
14. RE: Moving WorldMail onto new server
"JD West" <jdwest at discoverynet dot com>
Mon, 11 Feb 2002 15:11:12 -0600
15. Re: Moving WorldMail onto new server
LHA MIS <mis at lhaarchitects dot com>
Mon, 11 Feb 2002 14:13:43 -0800
16. Changing the server IP
"S. Tracy Jefferson" <tracy at tracyjefferson dot com>
Tue, 12 Feb 2002 11:18:49 -0500
17. Fw: Changing the server IP
"S. Tracy Jefferson" <tracy at tracyjefferson dot com>
Tue, 12 Feb 2002 11:27:48 -0500
18. Re: Fw: Changing the server IP
Matt Hemingway <matt at supplyedge dot com>
Tue, 12 Feb 2002 08:47:37 -0800
19. RE: Changing the server IP
"Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:29:02 -0000
20. Re: Worldmail Management Console
Randall Gellens <rg_public.1 at flagg.qualcomm dot com>
Tue, 12 Feb 2002 14:10:37 -0800
21. Beta-testers wanted
Harry McIntosh <harry.mcintosh at cdlearning dot com>
Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:13:30 -0700
22. Admin Manuals in DynaText format
"Rick Graham" <RGraham at clarkgroupinc dot com>
Tue, 19 Feb 2002 14:18:59 -0500
23. Open Relay Woes
"Rick Graham" <RGraham at clarkgroupinc dot com>
Tue, 19 Feb 2002 14:26:01 -0500
24. Re: Open Relay Woes
"Mark Hardee (Seamless Graphics)" <mark at seamlessgraphics dot com>
Tue, 19 Feb 2002 13:34:50 -0600
25. Re: Open Relay Woes
LHA MIS <mis at lhaarchitects dot com>
Tue, 19 Feb 2002 12:36:59 -0800
26. Re: Admin Manuals in DynaText format
"Lasse Gustafsson" <lasse at system.ecology.su dot se>
Wed, 20 Feb 2002 09:05:04 +0100
27. Re: Open Relay Woes
"Lasse Gustafsson" <lasse at system.ecology.su dot se>
Wed, 20 Feb 2002 09:08:05 +0100
28. ERR mailbox locked by a POP3 session
"Terry E. Muskoff" <temuskoff at prodigy dot net>
Wed, 6 Mar 2002 08:32:52 -0500
29. Re: ERR mailbox locked by a POP3 session
William Hultman <whultman at cox dot net>
Wed, 06 Mar 2002 07:05:33 -0800
30. Re: Open Relay Woes
William Hultman <whultman at cox dot net>
Wed, 06 Mar 2002 07:09:37 -0800
31. reporting
"Ben Saren" <ben at atomicusa dot com>
Wed, 6 Mar 2002 13:20:30 -0500
32. RE: Open Relay Woes
William Hultman <whultman at cox dot net>
Wed, 06 Mar 2002 14:25:36 -0800
33. Worldmail SMTP Service Shuts Down
Daniel Julien <daniel.julien at thc.state.tx dot us>
Wed, 06 Mar 2002 18:22:16 -0600
34. Recommendation mailserver
=?iso-8859-1?q?Daniel Rechsteiner?= <drechsteiner at yahoo dot com>
Thu, 7 Mar 2002 11:13:33 +0100 (CET)
35. Re: Worldmail SMTP Service Shuts Down
Seymour Joseph <sjoseph at bciu.k12.pa dot us>
Thu, 07 Mar 2002 11:10:47 -0500
36. RE: Worldmail SMTP Service Shuts Down
"Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Thu, 7 Mar 2002 20:49:37 -0000
37. Re: Recommendation mailserver
Harry McIntosh <harry.mcintosh at cdlearning dot com>
Mon, 11 Mar 2002 08:33:55 -0700
38. Auto-reply problems
"Jill Crawford" <jillc at golfpactravel dot com>
Wed, 13 Mar 2002 14:46:44 -0500
39. email capture
"Mark Hardee (Seamless Graphics)" <mark at seamlessgraphics dot com>
Fri, 15 Mar 2002 09:01:47 -0600
40. Re: Auto-reply problems
Steve Meyer <scmeyer at isgowi dot com>
Fri, 15 Mar 2002 13:38:24 -0600
41. Testing - please ignore
"Mark Hardee (Seamless Graphics)" <mark at seamlessgraphics dot com>
Sat, 16 Mar 2002 14:02:37 -0600
42. Re: Auto-reply problems
"Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
Wed, 20 Mar 2002 08:49:22 -0600
43. RE: Auto-reply problems
James Sanders <jsanders at easter-seals dot org>
Wed, 20 Mar 2002 08:47:15 -0600
44. Random Access Errors
"Joe Bauer" <Joe at VideoAge dot com>
Thu, 21 Mar 2002 15:19:44 -0600
45. re:random SMTPD.exe errors
Christine Bremer <cbremer at smm dot org>
Mon, 25 Mar 2002 11:39:40 -0600
46. Move to DHCP and then Windows 2000
Ann Compton <acompton at nationaloptronics dot com>
Mon, 25 Mar 2002 16:14:44 -0500
47. RE: Move to DHCP and then Windows 2000
"Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:09:19 -0000
48. RE: Move to DHCP and then Windows 2000
"Chris Lander" <chris at altuscorp dot com>
Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:48:27 -0800
49. Distribution list "Advise" message
"Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
Thu, 4 Apr 2002 06:58:16 -0600
50. RE: random SMTPD.exe errors
"Tom Kemp" <KempT at presearch dot com>
Thu, 4 Apr 2002 14:42:58 -0500
From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Cannot Activate Worldmail with Supplied License Key
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 15:17:18 -0000
Hello Andrew,
I think your assessment is right - it does look like you have a 10-user
add-on upgrade key.
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Happ [mailto:andyh at triode.net dot au]
Sent: 02 January 2002 12:19
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Cannot Activate Worldmail with Supplied License Key
I purchased from buyonet.com what was supposed to be the 10 user base
package for Worldmail 2.0. What I believe I received was a 10 user ADD-ON
package, but try as I might, I cannot convince buyonet.com that this is the
case. If you could please review my findings and provide your assessment
of the situation I would be extremely grateful.
FINDING NO 1
The program installation progresses without complaining, including
seemingly accepting the Serial No and Activation Key that were provided by
buyonet.com.
When I run the program for the first time my Internet Mail icon is
displayed as inactive (struck out with a red line).
Examining the Worldmail License Status window reveals that no entries are
recorded in that window. The serial number dialogue box displays the text
no details.
Attempting to enter (ie re-enter) the supplied Serial Number and Activation
Key results in the message Error attempting to set license. It would
seem that I have in fact typed in a valid set of numbers at this stage
because if I retry & change any character in the supplied strings, I get
the different message response Invalid License Number.
FINDING NO 2
When I install Worldmail in its EVALUATION mode everything seems to
work. The License Status window reports EVALUATION UNLIMITED users
BASE, options
etc.
I then try to enter my supplied Serial Number and Activation key at the
License Status window. This data entry is accepted and creates a second
line in the License Status window which reads <<my activation key>> 10
user ADD-ON, option C.
The program continues to operate for a brief time and then fails. (I
suspect this is because the EVALUATION process is really out of its use-by
date).
I have tried this on 6 different computers on two different networks using
NT4 and W2k and have had identical results every time.
To me it seems patently obvious I have received an ADD-ON pack rather than
the Base Package. Buyonet.com say that when they install using the same
Serial No and Activation key that
everything seems ok. But just how
far they went before coming to that conclusion is not clear.
I would be so grateful for any feedback from experienced users that
corroborates my conclusions that I could then pass on to buyonet.com in the
hope that I can finally convince them of my problem. As you can imagine
this has been a disastrous introduction to Worldmail for me.
All attempts to reach Qualcomm and Eudora have drawn blanks.
Best regards,
Andrew Happ
From: Matt Hemingway <matt at supplyedge dot com>
Subject: IMAP Server
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 10:11:06 -0800
Hello All!
I was wondering if anybody new what IMAP server WorldMail's IMAP server is
based off of....if any. University of Washingtons? Couirer? Cyrus? etc......
Thanks!
-Matt
From: "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 13:14:51 -0600
Subject: Re: IMAP Server
don't know and it never worked for me, using Outlook express
Hello All!
I was wondering if anybody new what IMAP server WorldMail's IMAP
server is based off of....if any. University of Washingtons?
Couirer? Cyrus? etc......
Thanks!
-Matt
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From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: IMAP Server
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 18:31:09 -0000
All of that code comes from what used to be called N-PLEX from ISOCOR
[nowadays called IMS from Critical Path].
The core IMAP4 and POP3 code are all in the same executable - IMSD.EXE
It was tested at the time of its release with IMAP4 clients - including
Outlook Express
As far as I remember, N-PLEX was the first commercial server product to
support IMAP4 and considerable work was done to ensure interoperability both
through careful checking of the standards and attending interop events.
I guess it is possible that something has changed within those mail clients
over the years that might prevent it working with them now - [since the code
for WorldMail is now pretty old by internet standards] ... but I would be
surprised if it failed with mainstream clients.
If you are having problems then use ISOTRACE to see what is going on and
feel free to post traces for analysis.
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Hemingway [mailto:matt at supplyedge dot com]
Sent: 23 January 2002 18:11
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: IMAP Server
Hello All!
I was wondering if anybody new what IMAP server WorldMail's IMAP server is
based off of....if any. University of Washingtons? Couirer? Cyrus?
etc......
Thanks!
-Matt
From: Matt Hemingway <matt at supplyedge dot com>
Subject: Re: IMAP Server
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:51:29 -0800
Thanks to all that replied. I guess I should explain why I was asking this:
I was setting up SquirrelMail (http://www.squirrelmail.org) and one of the
configuration options was for what kind of IMAP server the mail server is
using. The options were WU (Washington University), Cyrus and a couple
others I've never heard of before. I thought mabey WorldMail was based off
of one of those.
Anyway, I chose "other" and it all worked.
Cheers & Beers,
Matt
On Tuesday 29 January 2002 10:31, Paul Webster wrote:
> All of that code comes from what used to be called N-PLEX from ISOCOR
> [nowadays called IMS from Critical Path].
> The core IMAP4 and POP3 code are all in the same executable - IMSD.EXE
> It was tested at the time of its release with IMAP4 clients - including
> Outlook Express
> As far as I remember, N-PLEX was the first commercial server product to
> support IMAP4 and considerable work was done to ensure interoperability
> both through careful checking of the standards and attending interop
> events.
>
> I guess it is possible that something has changed within those mail clients
> over the years that might prevent it working with them now - [since the
> code for WorldMail is now pretty old by internet standards] ... but I would
> be surprised if it failed with mainstream clients.
> If you are having problems then use ISOTRACE to see what is going on and
> feel free to post traces for analysis.
>
> Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Hemingway [mailto:matt at supplyedge dot com]
> Sent: 23 January 2002 18:11
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: IMAP Server
>
>
> Hello All!
>
> I was wondering if anybody new what IMAP server WorldMail's IMAP server is
> based off of....if any. University of Washingtons? Couirer? Cyrus?
> etc......
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Matt
From: "Paul Lucente" <plucente at hypotenuse dot com>
Subject: repeated EHLO commands
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 17:33:22 -0500
Over the last 2 days my logs are full of entries starting with the EHLO
command.
For example: SMTP EHLO tomts9-srv.bellnexxia.net from host 209.226.175.53
They all come from bellnexxia.net, but from many different hosts.
I am guessing this is attempted spamming or relaying? Anyone else seeing
this, have any idea what this is?
Paul
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 19:48:40 -0600
From: chris bremer <cbremer at smm dot org>
Subject: Auto-Stop/start worldmail services?
Does anyone know a way to stop/start worldmail services
through a script, command-line, AT scheduler, anything??
i've searched the command line options and archives and
have not found a way to do this, yet and would appreciate
any suggestions! thank you.
From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Auto-Stop/start worldmail services?
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 07:13:06 -0000
Like most NT services, you can use NET START and NET STOP
[I suspect that you can also use IMSD -STOP and IMSD -START ... try
IMSD -HELP]
You need to apply these commands to each of the services.
NET START with no parameters will list all of the services with their
long-form name.
Services with SPACES in their names need to be "QUOTED".
I suspect that something like this would work for you...
C:
CD \"program files"\ISOCOR\SMTP
IMSD -STOP
SMTPD -STOP
CD some other appropriate places
RMAP -STOP
LDAPTHING -STOP
or
NET STOP "SMTP SERVICE NAME"
NET STOP "INTRENET MAILBOX SERVICE"
etc
[I made up the names above because I don't remember what they are called in
WorldMail.
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: chris bremer [mailto:cbremer at smm dot org]
Sent: 31 January 2002 01:49
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Auto-Stop/start worldmail services?
Does anyone know a way to stop/start worldmail services
through a script, command-line, AT scheduler, anything??
i've searched the command line options and archives and
have not found a way to do this, yet and would appreciate
any suggestions! thank you.
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 18:36:49 +1100
From: Andrew <andyh at triode.net dot au>
Subject: Should I Persevere with Worldmail ?
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After initially being told by my ISP that ETRN protocol was supported, I
have set up a Worldmail Server thats nearly ready to deploy. The ISP has
now changed its mind telling me that ETRN is not supported. I am
considering changing my ISP to one that does support ETRN. Before I begin
the trauma of doing this I would like to be sure that Worldmail will meet
all of my requirements. These include:
· We would use Eudora for local client access to the Worldmail
client
mailboxes.
· A large proportion of both in and out emails contains attachments
that have an average size of 2 to 3 GB.
· For record keeping purposes we need to maintain two global
catch-all stores, in addition to the individual client mailboxes. One of
these is for incoming email and the other is for outgoing email. I can see
how I could do this with incoming mail using the Worldmail function send
copy of all mail to:, and then accessing this mail when required as a
single IMAP store. But I am unclear how to achieve this with the outgoing
mail.
· The two global stores referred to above need to be maintained as
permanent records of correspondence as well as providing a one-stop-shop to
review all incoming or outgoing email traffic. (There are no email privacy
issues at stake in this installation). At some point it will be necessary
to strip the attachments from mail in the Worldmail stores. (Permanent
record of the attachment content is not required). There does not seem to
be a function within Worldmail to allow separation of attachments from the
body of the email. I can see there is no problem on the Eudora client
side, where attachments are automatically stripped to the data
directory. But it does seem to be a problem in the Worldmail IMAP store
environment.
I would be grateful for any reassurance that the uncertainties raised above
can be resolved within the Worlmail environment.
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<font face="Times New Roman, Times" size=3>After initially being told by
my ISP that ETRN protocol was supported, I have set up a Worldmail Server
thats nearly ready to deploy. The ISP has now changed its
mind telling me that ETRN is not supported. I am considering
changing my ISP to one that does support ETRN. Before I begin the
trauma of doing this I would like to be sure that Worldmail will meet all
of my requirements. These include:<br>
</font>
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<dd>·<x-tab> </x-tab></font><font
face="Times New Roman, Times" size=3>We
would use Eudora for local client access to the Worldmail client
mailboxes.<br>
<br>
</font><font face="Symbol">
<dd>·<x-tab> </x-tab></font><font
face="Times New Roman, Times" size=3>A
large proportion of both in and out emails contains attachments that have
an average size of 2 to 3 GB.<br>
<br>
</font><font face="Symbol">
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face="Times New Roman, Times" size=3>For
record keeping purposes we need to maintain two global catch-all stores,
in addition to the individual client mailboxes. One of these is for
incoming email and the other is for outgoing email. I can see how I
could do this with incoming mail using the Worldmail function send copy
of all mail to:, and then accessing this mail when required as a single
IMAP store. But I am unclear how to achieve this with the
outgoing mail.<br>
<br>
</font><font face="Symbol">
<dd>·<x-tab> </x-tab></font><font
face="Times New Roman, Times" size=3>The
two global stores referred to above need to be maintained as permanent
records of correspondence as well as providing a one-stop-shop to review
all incoming or outgoing email traffic. (There are no email privacy
issues at stake in this installation). At some point it will be
necessary to strip the attachments from mail in the Worldmail
stores. (Permanent record of the attachment content is not
required). There does not seem to be a function within Worldmail to
allow separation of attachments from the body of the email. I can
see there is no problem on the Eudora client side, where attachments are
automatically stripped to the data directory. But it does seem to
be a problem in the Worldmail IMAP store environment.<br>
<br>
</dl>I would be grateful for any reassurance that the uncertainties
raised above can be resolved within the Worlmail environment.<br>
<br>
<br>
</font><br>
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Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 18:45:50 +1100
From: Andrew <andyh at triode.net dot au>
Subject: Re: Should I Persevere with Worldmail - Errata
Sorry,
Those email attachment sizes are 2 to 3 MB and not 2 to 3 GB
Andrew
From: Matt Hemingway <matt at supplyedge dot com>
Subject: Re: Should I Persevere with Worldmail ?
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 08:52:45 -0800
Everything should work fine except for the outgoing-mail-store. I'm not sure
how that would work.
Do you by any chance have any experience with Perl? One cool feature about
Worldmail is that you can write your own "robots" (programs) to work with
Worldmail. If you can't get Worldmail to store all outgoing mail, you could
try writing something that will.
-Matt
On Monday 04 February 2002 23:36, Andrew wrote:
> After initially being told by my ISP that ETRN protocol was supported, I
> have set up a Worldmail Server thats nearly ready to deploy. The ISP has
> now changed its mind telling me that ETRN is not supported. I am
> considering changing my ISP to one that does support ETRN. Before I begin
> the trauma of doing this I would like to be sure that Worldmail will meet
> all of my requirements. These include:
> · We would use Eudora for local client access to the Worldmail client
> mailboxes.
>
> · A large proportion of both in and out emails contains attachments
> that have an average size of 2 to 3 GB.
>
> · For record keeping purposes we need to maintain two global
> catch-all stores, in addition to the individual client mailboxes. One of
> these is for incoming email and the other is for outgoing email. I can see
> how I could do this with incoming mail using the Worldmail function send
> copy of all mail to:, and then accessing this mail when required as a
> single IMAP store. But I am unclear how to achieve this with the outgoing
> mail.
>
> · The two global stores referred to above need to be maintained as
> permanent records of correspondence as well as providing a one-stop-shop to
> review all incoming or outgoing email traffic. (There are no email privacy
> issues at stake in this installation). At some point it will be necessary
> to strip the attachments from mail in the Worldmail stores. (Permanent
> record of the attachment content is not required). There does not seem to
> be a function within Worldmail to allow separation of attachments from the
> body of the email. I can see there is no problem on the Eudora client
> side, where attachments are automatically stripped to the data
> directory. But it does seem to be a problem in the Worldmail IMAP store
> environment.
>
> I would be grateful for any reassurance that the uncertainties raised above
> can be resolved within the Worlmail environment.
From: "Kirk Brittain" <kirkb at piedmontequipment dot com>
Subject: Worldmail Management Console
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 14:21:31 -0500
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Our domain server had to be rebuilt two days ago and part of rejoining
the PC's to the domain is that they lose the profile setting which
include the management console for Worldmail. The mail server still
functions properly but I have no access to the console. Can this console
be installed without having to reconfigure the mail server? How? Thanks
so much for time in helping me out, one does not want to have to go
through this rebuild process to many time! The worldmail server program
in running on Windows NT 4.0 workstation. Thanks again. Kirk
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Our domain server had to be rebuilt two
days ago
and part of rejoining the PC's to the domain is that they lose the
profile
setting which include the management console for Worldmail. The mail
server
still functions properly but I have no access to the console. Can this
console
be installed without having to reconfigure the mail server? How? Thanks
so much
for time in helping me out, one does not want to have to go through this
rebuild
process to many time! The worldmail server program in running on Windows
NT 4.0
workstation. Thanks again. Kirk</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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From: "Rick Graham" <RGraham at clarkgroupinc dot com>
Subject: Moving WorldMail onto new server
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 15:14:50 -0500
Hello list,
We have WorldMail on a very old pc that is starting to die. We need to move
the WorldMail and database onto a Windows NT backup server that will in 6
months become a Windows 2000 backup server. The dying pc presently has
nothing of importance other than WorldMail.
I have seen the document in Eudora help regarding nibl - and sent support an
email which has not been returned, so I come to this list for help.
1. I cannot find anywhere a list of the switch settings for nibl (let alone
the nibl routine itself). Can anyone help here?
2. When moving WorldMail with the nibl routine, does this:
a. move the database to the new server, and then we have to do a reinstall
of Worldmail?
b. move WorldMail including the database over to the new server, nothing
else is required?
c. copy the database to the new server, and then we have do a reinstall of
WorldMail?
d. copy WorldMail including the database over to the new server, noting
else is required?
(You can see from above, I have been too busy studying Microsoft certs! ;-)
3. What happens to my non-default settings when I do this? Is there a file
that I need to move/import/export?
4. Is there a better way to do what I want to accomplish?
Thanks in advance for any responses.
Rick Graham, A+, N+, MCP
Network Administrator
From: "JD West" <jdwest at discoverynet dot com>
Subject: RE: Moving WorldMail onto new server
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 15:11:12 -0600
See "Moving a server" for some nibl uses.
http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/1420hq.html
We did this a few months ago. It went OK.
Had to manually do a few things to clean up afterward. We reinstalled on
the new server, copied in the user directories from the old drive, then
reimported the user database.
We went through and documented EVERY screen to be sure we had
everything.
Plus, keeping the old box around, (but off the network) isn't a bad idea
until you are sure everything is working. You can then compare settings
if something isn't working just right.
The only problem we had moving from NT 4.0 to 2000 was that after the
upgrade our Mail server became an open relay. We had it restricted by
IP, the same way we did on NT 4.0. Worldmail ignored any and all IP's we
put in there. We got reamed by spammers and blackhole listed. We ended
up going to iMail.
Good luck
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Graham [mailto:RGraham at clarkgroupinc dot com]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 2:15 PM
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Moving WorldMail onto new server
Hello list,
We have WorldMail on a very old pc that is starting to die. We need to
move
the WorldMail and database onto a Windows NT backup server that will in
6
months become a Windows 2000 backup server. The dying pc presently has
nothing of importance other than WorldMail.
I have seen the document in Eudora help regarding nibl - and sent
support an
email which has not been returned, so I come to this list for help.
1. I cannot find anywhere a list of the switch settings for nibl (let
alone
the nibl routine itself). Can anyone help here?
2. When moving WorldMail with the nibl routine, does this:
a. move the database to the new server, and then we have to do a
reinstall
of Worldmail?
b. move WorldMail including the database over to the new server,
nothing
else is required?
c. copy the database to the new server, and then we have do a
reinstall of
WorldMail?
d. copy WorldMail including the database over to the new server,
noting
else is required?
(You can see from above, I have been too busy studying Microsoft certs!
;-)
3. What happens to my non-default settings when I do this? Is there a
file
that I need to move/import/export?
4. Is there a better way to do what I want to accomplish?
Thanks in advance for any responses.
Rick Graham, A+, N+, MCP
Network Administrator
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 14:13:43 -0800
From: LHA MIS <mis at lhaarchitects dot com>
Subject: Re: Moving WorldMail onto new server
About a year ago I moved the Worldmail server 2.0 from one NT4 server to
another one.
I found the nibl method too cumbersome, instead of that I messed with the
registry.
DO NOT MESS WITH THE REGISTRY UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE MESSING WITH!!!
First I installed the Worldmail keeping everything default, the same way as
it was on the old server.
(this is crucial, especially when it comes to directory locations!)
After that I copied the mailbox-folders for all users from the old server
to the new one.
Then by using regedit.exe (not regedt32.exe!) I exported the
HKLM\Software\ISOCOR key with all its subkeys on the old server to a file
called hklmsoft.reg and by double clikking on this file from the new server
I imported it to the right place.
I don't remember what other registry keys I exported/imported the same way,
but I think this is the only registry key is that relevant to the email
user accounts.
The whole thing won't take more than couple of minutes.
Geza
P.S.: DO NOT MESS WITH THE REGISTRY UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE MESSING WITH!!!
Geza Levai
LAN Administrator
Leidenfrost/Horowitz & Associates
818-246-6050 ext.62
Glendale, CA
From: "S. Tracy Jefferson" <tracy at tracyjefferson dot com>
Subject: Changing the server IP
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 11:18:49 -0500
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Our Worldmail server has worked fine for several years, but we just
recently were forced to change the IP address of the server. As the
attached trace file shows, a DNS error is now generated when trying to
send mail. If I configure Worldmail to relay through another mail
server, it works but this is not an option because of security issues.
All other programs that use DNS work fine. Worldmail itself worked
flawlessly until the IP change. Any suggestions?
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Our Worldmail server has worked fine
for several
years, but we just recently were forced to change the IP address of the
server. As the attached trace file shows, a DNS error is now
generated
when trying to send mail. If I configure Worldmail to relay
through
another mail server, it works but this is not an option because of
security
issues.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>All other programs that use DNS work
fine.
Worldmail itself worked flawlessly until the IP change. Any
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10:52:25.93: [243] IMS: server configuration has changed - reconfiguring
myself
10:52:25.93: [243] IMS: Server name = mail.terrantech.com
10:52:25.93: [243] IMS: max threads = 60 mgr threads = 4
10:52:25.93: [243] IMS: POP3 port = 110 IMAP4 port = 143 Manager
port = 4201 EUDORA port = 106
10:52:25.93: [243] IMS: Log file directory = 'E:\WorldMail\SMTP\Log'
10:52:37.44: [731] POP3: new connection accepted from 216.26.157.206
10:52:37.44: [731] POP3: response sent '+OK POP3 server ready (Worldmail
1.3.160) <65B14F7FBF949F29994 at mail.terrantech dot com>'
10:52:37.47: [731] POP3: client command 'USER tracyj%terrantech.com'
received
10:52:37.47: [731] POP3: response sent '+OK Password required'
10:52:37.48: [731] POP3: client command 'PASS t722y' received
10:52:37.49: [731] POP3: response sent '+OK 34 messages'
10:52:37.49: [731] POP3: client command 'STAT' received
10:52:37.49: [731] POP3: response sent '+OK 34 164902'
10:52:37.49: [731] POP3: client command 'LIST' received
10:52:37.49: [731] POP3: response sent '+OK'
10:52:37.49: [731] POP3: response sent '1 13098'
10:52:37.49: [731] POP3: response sent '2 1618'
10:52:37.49: [731] POP3: response sent '3 1544'
10:52:37.49: [731] POP3: response sent '4 32603'
10:52:37.49: [731] POP3: response sent '5 8150'
10:52:37.49: [731] POP3: response sent '6 975'
10:52:37.49: [731] POP3: response sent '7 25267'
10:52:37.49: [731] POP3: response sent '8 6621'
10:52:37.49: [731] POP3: response sent '9 668'
10:52:37.49: [731] POP3: response sent '10 676'
10:52:37.49: [731] POP3: response sent '11 906'
10:52:37.49: [731] POP3: response sent '12 1862'
10:52:37.49: [731] POP3: response sent '13 772'
10:52:37.49: [731] POP3: response sent '14 2094'
10:52:37.49: [731] POP3: response sent '15 772'
10:52:37.50: [731] POP3: response sent '16 2094'
10:52:37.50: [731] POP3: response sent '17 2218'
10:52:37.50: [731] POP3: response sent '18 2265'
10:52:37.50: [731] POP3: response sent '19 1532'
10:52:37.50: [731] POP3: response sent '20 3904'
10:52:37.50: [731] POP3: response sent '21 6623'
10:52:37.50: [731] POP3: response sent '22 1825'
10:52:37.50: [731] POP3: response sent '23 1937'
10:52:37.50: [731] POP3: response sent '24 4647'
10:52:37.50: [731] POP3: response sent '25 2960'
10:52:37.50: [731] POP3: response sent '26 1573'
10:52:37.50: [731] POP3: response sent '27 1960'
10:52:37.50: [731] POP3: response sent '28 5545'
10:52:37.50: [731] POP3: response sent '29 3022'
10:52:37.50: [731] POP3: response sent '30 13501'
10:52:37.50: [731] POP3: response sent '31 7193'
10:52:37.50: [731] POP3: response sent '32 1471'
10:52:37.50: [731] POP3: response sent '33 1474'
10:52:37.50: [731] POP3: response sent '34 1532'
10:52:37.50: [731] POP3: response sent '.'
10:52:37.50: [731] POP3: client command 'UIDL 1' received
10:52:37.50: [731] POP3: response sent '+OK 1 47022'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: client command 'UIDL' received
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '+OK'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '1 47022'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '2 47023'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '3 47024'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '4 47025'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '5 47026'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '6 47027'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '7 47028'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '8 47029'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '9 47030'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '10 47031'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '11 47032'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '12 47033'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '13 47034'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '14 47035'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '15 47036'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '16 47037'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '17 47038'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '18 47039'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '19 47040'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '20 47041'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '21 47042'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '22 47043'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '23 47044'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '24 47045'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '25 47046'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '26 47047'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '27 47048'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '28 47049'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '29 47050'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '30 47051'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '31 47052'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '32 47053'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '33 47054'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '34 47055'
10:52:37.51: [731] POP3: response sent '.'
10:52:37.76: [731] POP3: client command 'QUIT' received
10:52:37.76: [731] POP3: response sent '+OK POP3 server closing
connection'
10:52:37.76: [731] POP3: closing TCP/IP connection
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From: "S. Tracy Jefferson" <tracy at tracyjefferson dot com>
Subject: Fw: Changing the server IP
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 11:27:48 -0500
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I attached the incorrect log file! Here is the correct one.
----- Original Message -----
From: S. Tracy Jefferson
To: worldmail at lists.pensive dot org
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 11:18 AM
Subject: Changing the server IP
Our Worldmail server has worked fine for several years, but we just
recently were forced to change the IP address of the server. As the
attached trace file shows, a DNS error is now generated when trying to
send mail. If I configure Worldmail to relay through another mail
server, it works but this is not an option because of security issues.
All other programs that use DNS work fine. Worldmail itself worked
flawlessly until the IP change. Any suggestions?
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I attached the incorrect log
file! Here is
the correct one.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=tracy at tracyjefferson dot com
href="mailto:tracy@tracyjefferson dot com">S. Tracy
Jefferson</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=worldmail at lists.pensive dot org
href="mailto:worldmail at lists.pensive.org">worldmail@lists dot pensive dot org</
A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 12, 2002 11:18 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Changing the server IP</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Our Worldmail server has worked fine
for several
years, but we just recently were forced to change the IP address of the
server. As the attached trace file shows, a DNS error is now
generated
when trying to send mail. If I configure Worldmail to relay
through
another mail server, it works but this is not an option because of
security
issues.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>All other programs that use DNS work
fine.
Worldmail itself worked flawlessly until the IP change. Any
suggestions?</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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11:23:06.27: [672] SMTP: new TCP/IP connection accepted from
216.26.157.206
11:23:06.27: [672] SMTP: response sent '220 mail.terrantech.com ESMTP
Service (Worldmail 1.3.167) ready'
11:23:06.28: [672] SMTP: command received 'HELO dtp02'
11:23:06.28: [672] SMTP: command received 'MAIL FROM:
<tracy at tracyjefferson dot com>'
11:23:06.28: [672] SMTP: response sent '250 MAIL
FROM:<tracy at tracyjefferson dot com> OK'
11:23:06.29: [672] SMTP: command received 'RCPT TO:
<tracyj at confluenttech dot com>'
11:23:06.29: [672] SMTP: response sent '250 RCPT
TO:<tracyj at confluenttech dot com> OK'
11:23:06.29: [672] SMTP: command received 'DATA'
11:23:06.29: [672] SMTP: response sent '354 Start mail input; end with
<CRLF>.<CRLF>'
11:23:06.58: [672] SMTP: end of mail data
11:23:06.58: [672] SMTP: queueing message ident=3C5AC02100000AA9
length=1409 8bit=0
11:23:06.58: [672] SMTP: response sent '250 Mail accepted'
11:23:06.59: [672] SMTP: command received 'QUIT'
11:23:06.59: [672] SMTP: response sent '221 mail.terrantech.com QUIT'
11:23:06.59: [672] SMTP: server socket closing
11:23:06.63: [749] SMTP: deliver() starting mq=5B0F40 nrcpts=1
11:23:06.63: [749] SMTP: submit mail for domain 'confluenttech.com'
using normal MX routing
11:23:06.63: [749] RESOLV: Query name server
'3.in-addr.arpa.confluentasp.com'
11:23:06.65: [749] RESOLV: Query name server
'2.in-addr.arpa.confluentasp.com'
11:23:06.68: [749] SMTP: DNS soft error during MX record lookup
11:23:06.69: [749] SMTP: deliver() mq=5B0F40 requeued nrcpts=1
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From: Matt Hemingway <matt at supplyedge dot com>
Subject: Re: Fw: Changing the server IP
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 08:47:37 -0800
A few questions:
You're still able to send mail though, right?
Does the same error message appear when you are sending to this list?
Does the same error message appear if you try sending to an IP address,
instead of the domain?
Also, does 3.in-addr.arpa.confluentasp.com mean anything to you?
-Matt
On Tuesday 12 February 2002 08:27, S. Tracy Jefferson wrote:
> I attached the incorrect log file! Here is the correct one.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: S. Tracy Jefferson
> To: worldmail at lists.pensive dot org
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 11:18 AM
> Subject: Changing the server IP
>
>
> Our Worldmail server has worked fine for several years, but we just
> recently were forced to change the IP address of the server. As the
> attached trace file shows, a DNS error is now generated when trying to send
> mail. If I configure Worldmail to relay through another mail server, it
> works but this is not an option because of security issues.
>
> All other programs that use DNS work fine. Worldmail itself worked
> flawlessly until the IP change. Any suggestions?
From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Changing the server IP
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:29:02 -0000
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There is the old issue with Worldmail and Win2K DNS registry keys - but that
should not be relevant here because the trace seems to show that it has
found a name ok.
Is there a chance that the netmask or gateway (IP stuff) have not been
changed correctly when IP address was changed?
One way to help stop this ....
from command line
NSLOOKUP
set type=MX
confluenttech.com
and then see which DNS server returns the results.
You can also experiment by using the mail address checking tool from the
Management Center (easier than submitting messages) - right click on
Internet Mail and choose Test Mail Routing (I think that is what it was
called).
[keep running ISOTRACE as you did here - with trace level up to the giddy
heights of Verbose ... or one higher if you attack the registry ...]
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: S. Tracy Jefferson [mailto:tracy at tracyjefferson dot com]
Sent: 12 February 2002 16:28
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Fw: Changing the server IP
I attached the incorrect log file! Here is the correct one.
----- Original Message -----
From: S. Tracy Jefferson
To: worldmail at lists.pensive dot org
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 11:18 AM
Subject: Changing the server IP
Our Worldmail server has worked fine for several years, but we just recently
were forced to change the IP address of the server. As the attached trace
file shows, a DNS error is now generated when trying to send mail. If I
configure Worldmail to relay through another mail server, it works but this
is not an option because of security issues.
All other programs that use DNS work fine. Worldmail itself worked
flawlessly until the IP change. Any suggestions?
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<DIV><SPAN class=520242317-12022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>There
is the old issue with Worldmail and Win2K DNS registry keys - but that
should
not be relevant here because the trace seems to show that it has found a
name
ok.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=520242317-12022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=520242317-12022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Is
there a chance that the netmask or gateway (IP stuff) have not been
changed
correctly when IP address was changed?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=520242317-12022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>One
way to help stop this ....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=520242317-12022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>from
command line</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=520242317-12022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>NSLOOKUP</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=520242317-12022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>set
type=MX</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=520242317-12022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>confluenttech.com</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=520242317-12022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=520242317-12022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>and
then see which DNS server returns the results.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=520242317-12022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=520242317-12022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>You
can also experiment by using the mail address checking tool from
the
Management Center (easier than submitting messages) - right click on
Internet
Mail and choose Test Mail Routing (I think that is what it was
called).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=520242317-12022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>[keep
running ISOTRACE as you did here - with trace level up to the giddy
heights of
Verbose ... or one higher if you attack the registry
...]</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=520242317-12022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Paul</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> S. Tracy Jefferson
[mailto:tracy at tracyjefferson dot com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 12 February 2002
16:28<BR><B>To:</B> Subscribers of WorldMail<BR><B>Subject:</B> Fw:
Changing the
server IP<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I attached the incorrect log
file! Here is
the correct one.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=tracy at tracyjefferson dot com
href="mailto:tracy@tracyjefferson dot com">S. Tracy
Jefferson</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=worldmail at lists.pensive dot org
href="mailto:worldmail at lists.pensive.org">worldmail@lists dot pensive dot org</
A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 12, 2002 11:18 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Changing the server IP</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Our Worldmail server has worked fine
for several
years, but we just recently were forced to change the IP address of the
server. As the attached trace file shows, a DNS error is now
generated
when trying to send mail. If I configure Worldmail to relay
through
another mail server, it works but this is not an option because of
security
issues.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>All other programs that use DNS work
fine.
Worldmail itself worked flawlessly until the IP change. Any
suggestions?</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 14:10:37 -0800
From: Randall Gellens <rg_public.1 at flagg.qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Worldmail Management Console
At 2:21 PM -0500 2/6/02, Kirk Brittain wrote:
>Our domain server had to be rebuilt two days ago and part of
>rejoining the PC's to the domain is that they lose the profile
>setting which include the management console for Worldmail. The mail
>server still functions properly but I have no access to the console.
>Can this console be installed without having to reconfigure the mail
>server? How? Thanks so much for time in helping me out, one does not
>want to have to go through this rebuild process to many time! The
>worldmail server program in running on Windows NT 4.0 workstation.
>Thanks again. Kirk
The WorldMail installer has an option to install just the management center.
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:13:30 -0700
From: Harry McIntosh <harry.mcintosh at cdlearning dot com>
Subject: Beta-testers wanted
We are developing email server software, and are looking for a couple of
beta-testers. If you are interested, please contact me.
_________________________________________________
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For information visit www.Mailtastic.com.
From: "Rick Graham" <RGraham at clarkgroupinc dot com>
Subject: Admin Manuals in DynaText format
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 14:18:59 -0500
Does anyone know if there is another format for this manual other than the
DynaText? The version that comes with WorldMail is so old that it does not
permit double-sided printing and the interface is ugly.
Better yet, does anyone have these manuals in another format (.PDF?) that
they can share?
Thanks,
Rick
From: "Rick Graham" <RGraham at clarkgroupinc dot com>
Subject: Open Relay Woes
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 14:26:01 -0500
Hello all,
HELP! We have been blocked by ORDB.ORG as a relay agent. We have been having
problems with virus-laden emails and suspect that this is the cause of the
block.
I opened up our WM Server Internet Mail/Security/Message Relaying and have
the following in that section:
Allow access only to these addresses: 10.6.0.0 255.255.0.0 (Our internal
Network is 10.6.X.X based).
I would have thought that this would take care of the message relaying, but
apparently it has not.
Any other thoughts to block message relaying?
Thanks,
Rick
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 13:34:50 -0600
From: "Mark Hardee (Seamless Graphics)" <mark at seamlessgraphics dot com>
Subject: Re: Open Relay Woes
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At 02:26 PM 2/19/2002 -0500, Rick Graham said something to the effect of:
>Hello all,
>
>HELP! We have been blocked by ORDB.ORG as a relay agent. We have been having
>problems with virus-laden emails and suspect that this is the cause of the
>block.
>
>I opened up our WM Server Internet Mail/Security/Message Relaying and have
>the following in that section:
>
>Allow access only to these addresses: 10.6.0.0 255.255.0.0 (Our internal
>Network is 10.6.X.X based).
>
>I would have thought that this would take care of the message relaying, but
>apparently it has not.
>
>Any other thoughts to block message relaying?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Rick
...And I said...
If it's a Win2K server, check the SMTP virtual server in IIS - we had it
off but no entries - left a relay open that the fools at ORDB.ORG "found"
and made my life miserable for a week or so. We added an entry and then
disabled it and life is good again..
Mark Hardee
Seamless Graphics, Inc.
1505 Union Avenue - Memphis, TN 38104
(901)726-4113 FAX (901)726-4114
http://www.seamlessgraphics.com
ftp://ftp.seamlessgraphics.com
mark at seamlessgraphics dot com
mike at seamlessgraphics dot com
barbara at seamlessgraphics dot com
carl at seamlessgraphics dot com
******************************************************************************
Please Note: All e-mail sent to or from this address will be received
or otherwise recorded by the corporate e-mail system of Seamless
Graphics, Inc.. It is subject to archival, monitoring or review by,
and/or disclosure to someone other than the recipient.
******************************************************************************
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Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
<html>
<font size=3>At 02:26 PM 2/19/2002 -0500, Rick Graham said something to
the effect of: <br>
<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Hello all,<br><br>
HELP! We have been blocked by ORDB.ORG as a relay agent. We have been
having<br>
problems with virus-laden emails and suspect that this is the cause of
the<br>
block.<br><br>
I opened up our WM Server Internet Mail/Security/Message Relaying and
have<br>
the following in that section:<br><br>
Allow access only to these addresses: 10.6.0.0 255.255.0.0 (Our
internal<br>
Network is 10.6.X.X based).<br><br>
I would have thought that this would take care of the message relaying,
but<br>
apparently it has not.<br><br>
Any other thoughts to block message relaying?<br><br>
Thanks,<br><br>
Rick</blockquote><br>
...And I said... <br>
If it's a Win2K server, check the SMTP virtual server in IIS - we had it
off but no entries - left a relay open that the fools at ORDB.ORG
"found" and made my life miserable for a week or so. We added
an entry and then disabled it and life is good again..<br><br>
<x-sigsep><p></x-sigsep>
Mark Hardee<br>
Seamless Graphics, Inc.<br>
1505 Union Avenue - Memphis, TN 38104<br>
(901)726-4113 FAX (901)726-4114<br><br>
<a href="http://www.seamlessgraphics.com/" eudora="autourl">http://www.seamlessgraphics.com<br>
</a><a href="ftp://ftp.seamlessgraphics.com/" eudora="autourl">ftp://ftp.seamlessgraphics.com<br><br>
</a>mark at seamlessgraphics dot com<br>
mike at seamlessgraphics dot com<br>
barbara at seamlessgraphics dot com<br>
carl at seamlessgraphics dot com<br><br>
******************************************************************************<br>
Please Note: All e-mail sent to or from this address will be
received <br>
or otherwise recorded by the corporate e-mail system of Seamless <br>
Graphics, Inc.. It is subject to archival, monitoring or review by,
<br>
and/or disclosure to someone other than the recipient.<br>
******************************************************************************<br>
</font></html>
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Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 12:36:59 -0800
From: LHA MIS <mis at lhaarchitects dot com>
Subject: Re: Open Relay Woes
Hi Rick,
If you have any Virus defense for email server installed on your email
server, that can create symptom like yours. You have to redirect/change the
port assignment for the virus defense and email server as well.
Some of the changes has to be done through registry, some in the
application configuration.
If I can remember well the virus defense (webshield) is the one that have
to be configured to the standard SMTP and POP3 ports and the worldmail
server has to have some fictious ports to the webshield.
So the result of the configuration will be such, that no matter where the
email server receives email from to be sent or delivered (from the Internet
or from your firm), that email has to pass the virus shield first, but once
the email passed the shield it will be passed along to the email server
through a made up port.
I am sure you can find help on this subject on the website of your virus
defense software.
I had our worldmail server setup similar to yours and it worked fine until
I installed McAffee's Webshield for email server. Next week we also got
blocked by several spam prevention websites, that's when I found out about
the port config changes.
Geza
At 02:26 PM 2/19/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Subscribers of WorldMail <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
Geza Levai
LAN Administrator
Leidenfrost/Horowitz & Associates
818-246-6050 ext.62
Glendale, CA
From: "Lasse Gustafsson" <lasse at system.ecology.su dot se>
Subject: Re: Admin Manuals in DynaText format
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 09:05:04 +0100
Hi,
Download the worldmail manual from here:
http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/worldmail/WorldMail2.pdf
/Lasse
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Graham" <RGraham at clarkgroupinc dot com>
To: "Subscribers of WorldMail" <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 8:18 PM
Subject: Admin Manuals in DynaText format
> Does anyone know if there is another format for this manual other than
the
> DynaText? The version that comes with WorldMail is so old that it does
not
> permit double-sided printing and the interface is ugly.
>
> Better yet, does anyone have these manuals in another format (.PDF?)
that
> they can share?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rick
>
From: "Lasse Gustafsson" <lasse at system.ecology.su dot se>
Subject: Re: Open Relay Woes
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 09:08:05 +0100
Hi,
This question has come up before, check this article on the eudora
support.
http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/2339hq.html
WorldMail will not accept the 10.0.0.0 range. You need to switch your
Internal IP range to either the 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 (172.16/12
prefix) or the 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 (192.168/16 prefix) which
WorldMail will accept.
/Lasse
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Graham" <RGraham at clarkgroupinc dot com>
To: "Subscribers of WorldMail" <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 8:26 PM
Subject: Open Relay Woes
> Hello all,
>
> HELP! We have been blocked by ORDB.ORG as a relay agent. We have been
having
> problems with virus-laden emails and suspect that this is the cause of
the
> block.
>
> I opened up our WM Server Internet Mail/Security/Message Relaying and
have
> the following in that section:
>
> Allow access only to these addresses: 10.6.0.0 255.255.0.0 (Our
internal
> Network is 10.6.X.X based).
>
> I would have thought that this would take care of the message
relaying, but
> apparently it has not.
>
> Any other thoughts to block message relaying?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rick
>
From: "Terry E. Muskoff" <temuskoff at prodigy dot net>
Subject: ERR mailbox locked by a POP3 session
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 08:32:52 -0500
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I'm running Worldmail 2.0.
I have one user (with Eudora client) who receives the message:
"ERR mailbox locked by a POP3 session"
from time to time.
I'm almost positive that only one client is accessing that mailbox at a
time(we have a very small shop.)
The only way I have found to fix the problem is to Stop/Start the
Worldmail Message Store WinNT service. That allows the user to download
their email instantly.
Is anyone aware of a fix for this problem, or a better/easier solution?
Is there some sort of "timeout" parameter I could set in the server to
free up the mailbox after a couple of minutes?
Is this more likely a Eudora client problem (not freeing up the mailbox
after a download) or a Worldmail server problem?
Thanks,
Terry
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm running Worldmail 2.0.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have one user (with Eudora client)
who receives
the message:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> "ERR mailbox locked by a
POP3
session"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>from time to time.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm almost positive that only one
client is
accessing that mailbox at a time(we have a very small
shop.)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The only way I have found to fix the
problem is to
Stop/Start the Worldmail Message Store WinNT service. That allows
the user
to download their email instantly.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is anyone aware of a fix for this
problem, or a
better/easier solution?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is there some sort of "timeout"
parameter I could
set in the server to free up the mailbox after a couple of
minutes?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is this more likely a Eudora client
problem (not
freeing up the mailbox after a download) or a Worldmail server
problem?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Terry</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 07:05:33 -0800
From: William Hultman <whultman at cox dot net>
Subject: Re: ERR mailbox locked by a POP3 session
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At 08:32 AM 3/6/2002 -0500, Terry E. Muskoff wrote:
>I'm running Worldmail 2.0.
>
>I have one user (with Eudora client) who receives the message:
> "ERR mailbox locked by a POP3 session"
>from time to time.
>
>I'm almost positive that only one client is accessing that mailbox at a
>time(we have a very small shop.)
>
>The only way I have found to fix the problem is to Stop/Start the
>Worldmail Message Store WinNT service. That allows the user to download
>their email instantly.
>
>Is anyone aware of a fix for this problem, or a better/easier solution?
>
>Is there some sort of "timeout" parameter I could set in the server to
>free up the mailbox after a couple of minutes?
>
>Is this more likely a Eudora client problem (not freeing up the mailbox
>after a download) or a Worldmail server problem?
>
>Thanks,
>Terry
This is most likely due to abnormal termination of the client. Ask him/her
if he/she is experiencing periodic crashes when downloading mail. That is
the most common cause of this.
The server should timeout the connection in approximately 5 minutes
allowing the user to log in again. Rather than stopping.restarting the
service, you could open the management Center, then look under Current
Connections>Message Store and right click the hung connection and select
Close connection. that will free up the lock on the POP store.
Also, right click Internet Mail, select Configure Server, then under the
Mailboxes tab, you can adjust the idle client timeout. If you have no IMAP
users, you can set it pretty much as low as you like, but if you have users
using IMAP, it is not advisable to set it too low. If you do, IMAP clients
will spend a lot of time re-authenticating every time they need to re-open
the connection.
Bill
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At 08:32 AM 3/6/2002 -0500, Terry E. Muskoff wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="arial" size=2>I'm
running Worldmail 2.0.</font><br>
<br>
<font face="arial" size=2>I have one user (with Eudora client) who
receives the message:</font><br>
<font face="arial" size=2> "ERR mailbox locked by a POP3
session"</font><br>
<font face="arial" size=2>from time to time.</font><br>
<br>
<font face="arial" size=2>I'm almost positive that only one client is
accessing that mailbox at a time(we have a very small shop.)</font><br>
<br>
<font face="arial" size=2>The only way I have found to fix the problem is
to Stop/Start the Worldmail Message Store WinNT service. That
allows the user to download their email instantly.</font><br>
<br>
<font face="arial" size=2>Is anyone aware of a fix for this problem, or a
better/easier solution?</font><br>
<br>
<font face="arial" size=2>Is there some sort of "timeout"
parameter I could set in the server to free up the mailbox after a couple
of minutes?</font><br>
<br>
<font face="arial" size=2>Is this more likely a Eudora client problem
(not freeing up the mailbox after a download) or a Worldmail server
problem?</font><br>
<br>
<font face="arial" size=2>Thanks,</font><br>
<font face="arial" size=2>Terry</font></blockquote><br>
This is most likely due to abnormal termination of the client. Ask
him/her if he/she is experiencing periodic crashes when downloading mail.
That is the most common cause of this. <br><br>
The server should timeout the connection in approximately 5 minutes
allowing the user to log in again. Rather than stopping.restarting the
service, you could open the management Center, then look under Current
Connections>Message Store and right click the hung connection and
select Close connection. that will free up the lock on the POP store.
<br><br>
Also, right click Internet Mail, select Configure Server, then under the
Mailboxes tab, you can adjust the idle client timeout. If you have no
IMAP users, you can set it pretty much as low as you like, but if you
have users using IMAP, it is not advisable to set it too low. If you do,
IMAP clients will spend a lot of time re-authenticating every time they
need to re-open the connection. <br><br>
Bill<br>
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Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 07:09:37 -0800
From: William Hultman <whultman at cox dot net>
Subject: Re: Open Relay Woes
Actually, since he is using 10.6.x.x network, it may work. I believe that
the 10.0.x.x range is the only one that WorldMail barfs on. Try using a
netmask of 255.25.255.0 and see what happens.
Bill
At 09:08 AM 2/20/2002 +0100, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>This question has come up before, check this article on the eudora support.
>http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/2339hq.html
>
>WorldMail will not accept the 10.0.0.0 range. You need to switch your
>Internal IP range to either the 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 (172.16/12
>prefix) or the 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 (192.168/16 prefix) which
>WorldMail will accept.
>
>
>/Lasse
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rick Graham" <RGraham at clarkgroupinc dot com>
>To: "Subscribers of WorldMail" <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
>Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 8:26 PM
>Subject: Open Relay Woes
>
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > HELP! We have been blocked by ORDB.ORG as a relay agent. We have been
> having
> > problems with virus-laden emails and suspect that this is the cause of the
> > block.
> >
> > I opened up our WM Server Internet Mail/Security/Message Relaying and have
> > the following in that section:
> >
> > Allow access only to these addresses: 10.6.0.0 255.255.0.0 (Our internal
> > Network is 10.6.X.X based).
> >
> > I would have thought that this would take care of the message relaying, but
> > apparently it has not.
> >
> > Any other thoughts to block message relaying?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rick
> >
From: "Ben Saren" <ben at atomicusa dot com>
Subject: reporting
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 13:20:30 -0500
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What do you all know about reporting in Worldmail? I'd like to be able
to perform some sort of report monthly, daily, weekly etc to get a
handle on just what kind of traffic Worldmail is tossing around.
Any thoughts?
...................................
Ben Saren
Atomic Enterprises, Inc.
www.atomicusa.com
(781) 665-506
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>What do you all know about reporting
in Worldmail?
I'd like to be able to perform some sort of report monthly, daily,
weekly etc to
get a handle on just what kind of traffic Worldmail is tossing
around.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>Any thoughts?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>...................................<BR>Ben
Saren<BR>Atomic Enterprises, Inc.<BR><A
href="http://www.atomicusa.com">www.atomicusa.com</A><BR>(781)
665-506</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 14:25:36 -0800
From: William Hultman <whultman at cox dot net>
Subject: RE: Open Relay Woes
Sorry, that was what I meant -- you had originally mentioned that you used
255.255.0.0 as the subnet. I have gotten it to work with 10.1.0.0
255.255.255.0, so I thought it might work with the 10.6 as well, thinking
it was the 0.0 that WorldMail did not like. Oh well...
Bill
At 03:29 PM 3/6/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>If you mean 255.255.255.0, I already have that subnet.
>
>Rick
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: William Hultman [mailto:whultman at cox dot net]
>Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:10 AM
>To: Subscribers of WorldMail
>Subject: Re: Open Relay Woes
>
>
>Actually, since he is using 10.6.x.x network, it may work. I believe that
>the 10.0.x.x range is the only one that WorldMail barfs on. Try using a
>netmask of 255.25.255.0 and see what happens.
>
>Bill
>
>
>At 09:08 AM 2/20/2002 +0100, you wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >This question has come up before, check this article on the eudora support.
> >http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/2339hq.html
> >
> >WorldMail will not accept the 10.0.0.0 range. You need to switch your
> >Internal IP range to either the 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 (172.16/12
> >prefix) or the 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 (192.168/16 prefix) which
> >WorldMail will accept.
> >
> >
> >/Lasse
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Rick Graham" <RGraham at clarkgroupinc dot com>
> >To: "Subscribers of WorldMail" <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
> >Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 8:26 PM
> >Subject: Open Relay Woes
> >
> >
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > HELP! We have been blocked by ORDB.ORG as a relay agent. We have been
> > having
> > > problems with virus-laden emails and suspect that this is the cause of
>the
> > > block.
> > >
> > > I opened up our WM Server Internet Mail/Security/Message Relaying and
>have
> > > the following in that section:
> > >
> > > Allow access only to these addresses: 10.6.0.0 255.255.0.0 (Our internal
> > > Network is 10.6.X.X based).
> > >
> > > I would have thought that this would take care of the message relaying,
>but
> > > apparently it has not.
> > >
> > > Any other thoughts to block message relaying?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Rick
> > >
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 18:22:16 -0600
From: Daniel Julien <daniel.julien at thc.state.tx dot us>
Subject: Worldmail SMTP Service Shuts Down
I've been having a problem lately with the Worldmail SMTP service stopping.
I am able to restart it from the management center. There's nothing obvious
in the SMTP logs. I had already been planning on moving Worldmail to a
different server when this problem started, so I went ahead and moved it,
but is still happening - sometimes a week between occurrences, but
sometimes it will stop 2 or 3 times in one day. We are running McAfee SMTP
Shield to scan incoming mail before it gets to Worldmail. It has been
running for about 4 years with hardly a glitch until now. Any ideas?
--Dan
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 11:13:33 +0100 (CET)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Daniel Rechsteiner?= <drechsteiner at yahoo dot com>
Subject: Recommendation mailserver
Hi,
We have been Worldmail users for years. As the product
is not being further developped (unfortunately) we
have now switched to a different product. If some of
you are looking for another product too I have a
recommendation for you: CommuniGate Pro by Stalker
Software. We are using this product now for about 3
months and are really happy with it. It offers about
anything you can think of and is very stable. Support
is also very good (on a mailing list).
Tools for making the switch easy are also included
(creating mailboxes and moving existing mail).
http://www.stalker.com
Daniel
__________________________________________________________________
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Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 11:10:47 -0500
From: Seymour Joseph <sjoseph at bciu.k12.pa dot us>
Subject: Re: Worldmail SMTP Service Shuts Down
Dan,
We have seen the same behavior with the SMTP service stopping and have
not been able to locate the culprit. The logs are useless.
We also had a serious problem for 2-3 days with the Internet Message
Store service stopping. We eventually traced that down to a single
incoming mail message. Whenever the user with this mail message in
their inbox checked their mail, BOOM the IMS would crash. We removed
the message from their inbox and rebuilt their inbox and the problem
went away.
It was sheer luck that we found the problem file.
The strange thing is that the message that was crashing IMS looks like a
perfectly normal text email message. I have quarantined it.
Seymour
Daniel Julien wrote:
>
> I've been having a problem lately with the Worldmail SMTP service stopping.
> I am able to restart it from the management center. There's nothing obvious
> in the SMTP logs. I had already been planning on moving Worldmail to a
> different server when this problem started, so I went ahead and moved it,
> but is still happening - sometimes a week between occurrences, but
> sometimes it will stop 2 or 3 times in one day. We are running McAfee SMTP
> Shield to scan incoming mail before it gets to Worldmail. It has been
> running for about 4 years with hardly a glitch until now. Any ideas?
>
> --Dan
--
Seymour Joseph
Director, Technology Services
Bucks County Intermediate Unit #22
705 Shady Retreat Road
Doylestown, PA 18901
Phone (800)-770-4822 x1110
Fax: 215-489-7874
Email: sjoseph at bciu.k12.pa dot us
Web (BCIU): http://www.bciu.k12.pa.us
Web (Seymour): http://www.bciu.k12.pa.us/users/sjoseph/Welcome.htm
From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Worldmail SMTP Service Shuts Down
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 20:49:37 -0000
For the captured message ... can you post (an edited version) to see if we
can find which problem it was.
Just the headers and MIME separators should be enough (can overtype mail
addresses etc) - but watch out for unusual characters in original.
Other thought ... can you run ISOTRACE on the machines that are failing -
and enable verbose SMTP/IMS tracing - this will still be running when the
mail server stops ... but you should get a better idea of what it was doing
just before dying.
Don't trace to file though ... because if it runs for months (like usual)
and you have verbose tracing running to file then you will run out of disk
space.
Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Seymour Joseph [mailto:sjoseph at bciu.k12.pa dot us]
> Sent: 07 March 2002 16:11
> To: Daniel Julien; Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: Re: Worldmail SMTP Service Shuts Down
>
>
> Dan,
>
> We have seen the same behavior with the SMTP service stopping and have
> not been able to locate the culprit. The logs are useless.
>
> We also had a serious problem for 2-3 days with the Internet Message
> Store service stopping. We eventually traced that down to a single
> incoming mail message. Whenever the user with this mail message in
> their inbox checked their mail, BOOM the IMS would crash. We removed
> the message from their inbox and rebuilt their inbox and the problem
> went away.
>
> It was sheer luck that we found the problem file.
>
> The strange thing is that the message that was crashing IMS looks like a
> perfectly normal text email message. I have quarantined it.
>
> Seymour
>
>
> Daniel Julien wrote:
> >
> > I've been having a problem lately with the Worldmail SMTP
> service stopping.
> > I am able to restart it from the management center. There's
> nothing obvious
> > in the SMTP logs. I had already been planning on moving Worldmail to a
> > different server when this problem started, so I went ahead and
> moved it,
> > but is still happening - sometimes a week between occurrences, but
> > sometimes it will stop 2 or 3 times in one day. We are running
> McAfee SMTP
> > Shield to scan incoming mail before it gets to Worldmail. It has been
> > running for about 4 years with hardly a glitch until now. Any ideas?
> >
> > --Dan
>
> --
> Seymour Joseph
> Director, Technology Services
> Bucks County Intermediate Unit #22
> 705 Shady Retreat Road
> Doylestown, PA 18901
>
> Phone (800)-770-4822 x1110
> Fax: 215-489-7874
> Email: sjoseph at bciu.k12.pa dot us
> Web (BCIU): http://www.bciu.k12.pa.us
> Web (Seymour): http://www.bciu.k12.pa.us/users/sjoseph/Welcome.htm
>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 08:33:55 -0700
From: Harry McIntosh <harry.mcintosh at cdlearning dot com>
Subject: Re: Recommendation mailserver
People considering switching from Worldmail might also want to consider
Mailtastic, which will be released in April. Details and a free
downloadable beta copy are available at www.mailtastic.com.
Harry McIntosh
Mailtastic
At 03:13 AM 3/7/02, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>We have been Worldmail users for years. As the product
>is not being further developped (unfortunately) we
>have now switched to a different product. If some of
>you are looking for another product too I have a
>recommendation for you: CommuniGate Pro by Stalker
>Software. We are using this product now for about 3
>months and are really happy with it. It offers about
>anything you can think of and is very stable. Support
>is also very good (on a mailing list).
>Tools for making the switch easy are also included
>(creating mailboxes and moving existing mail).
>
>http://www.stalker.com
>
>Daniel
>
>__________________________________________________________________
>
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From: "Jill Crawford" <jillc at golfpactravel dot com>
Subject: Auto-reply problems
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 14:46:44 -0500
Has anyone run into a problem with the auto-reply message through the
Personal Account Manager web interface?
The users go through the PAM, setup their auto-reply message and upon
returning they enter the PAM to remove the message only to find the message
is no longer there. The users think auto-reply is turned off because there
is no message but senders still receive the auto-reply message.
I am able to clear it by going through the MMC and clearing the message but
this defeats the purpose of letting the user administer their own
auto-reply.
I notice that when the auto-reply message is off the default "Get message
from a file" is bulleted with no pathname specified. And when auto-reply is
on the "Specify message text" is bulleted with the text the user input.
This feature was working until recently and as far as I know there have not
been any changes to this system.
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 09:01:47 -0600
From: "Mark Hardee (Seamless Graphics)" <mark at seamlessgraphics dot com>
Subject: email capture
I don't know if Worldmail is capable, but..
For a reason that I can't go into, I need to capture a copy of an
employee's outgoing email. They will be notified that this is a
possibility. Is there a way to set this up in Worldmail or is it time to
install one of the later model mail servers.
Also, is there any way to set logs to show specific information about why
there are 85 rejected SMTP connections (in the stattistics window) instead
of just showing that there was?
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 13:38:24 -0600
From: Steve Meyer <scmeyer at isgowi dot com>
Subject: Re: Auto-reply problems
Jill,
We too have the same problem - but unfortunately no solution.
Steve
At 01:46 PM 3/13/2002, Jill Crawford wrote:
>Has anyone run into a problem with the auto-reply message through the
>Personal Account Manager web interface?
>
>The users go through the PAM, setup their auto-reply message and upon
>returning they enter the PAM to remove the message only to find the message
>is no longer there. The users think auto-reply is turned off because there
>is no message but senders still receive the auto-reply message.
>
>I am able to clear it by going through the MMC and clearing the message but
>this defeats the purpose of letting the user administer their own
>auto-reply.
>I notice that when the auto-reply message is off the default "Get message
>from a file" is bulleted with no pathname specified. And when auto-reply is
>on the "Specify message text" is bulleted with the text the user input.
>
>This feature was working until recently and as far as I know there have not
>been any changes to this system.
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 14:02:37 -0600
From: "Mark Hardee (Seamless Graphics)" <mark at seamlessgraphics dot com>
Subject: Testing - please ignore
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From: "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 08:49:22 -0600
Subject: Re: Auto-reply problems
I've found, personally that when you try to delete the message (or disable it) it won't do it. The message stays
there and I have to go to the console to delete it.
On 13 Mar 2002 at 14:46, Jill Crawford wrote:
From: "Jill Crawford" <jillc at golfpactravel dot com>
To: Subscribers of WorldMail <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
Subject: Auto-reply problems
Date sent: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 14:46:44 -0500
Has anyone run into a problem with the auto-reply message through the
Personal Account Manager web interface?
The users go through the PAM, setup their auto-reply message and upon
returning they enter the PAM to remove the message only to find the
message is no longer there. The users think auto-reply is turned off
because there is no message but senders still receive the auto-reply
message.
I am able to clear it by going through the MMC and clearing the
message but this defeats the purpose of letting the user administer
their own auto-reply. I notice that when the auto-reply message is off
the default "Get message from a file" is bulleted with no pathname
specified. And when auto-reply is on the "Specify message text" is
bulleted with the text the user input.
This feature was working until recently and as far as I know there
have not been any changes to this system.
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From: James Sanders <jsanders at easter-seals dot org>
Subject: RE: Auto-reply problems
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 08:47:15 -0600
We discovered this same problem a year ago on our system, and we were told,
at that time, by Eudora support, that it was a bug in the web interface, and
it could not be fixed, until issues were resolved between Eudora and the
original programmers. So we have told our email constituents that they
will have to contact us administrators to go in manually and delete the auto
reply messages.
I don't know how you had the function working OK for you for some time. We
never had it work at all for us.
James C. Sanders, MCSE, MCDBA
Enterprise Resource Specialist for
Easter Seals, Chicago
104 Meadowbrook Drive
Jackson, TN 38301
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-----Original Message-----
From: Elliott Bujan [mailto:ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 8:49 AM
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Re: Auto-reply problems
I've found, personally that when you try to delete the message (or disable
it) it won't do it. The message stays
there and I have to go to the console to delete it.
On 13 Mar 2002 at 14:46, Jill Crawford wrote:
From: "Jill Crawford" <jillc at golfpactravel dot com>
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
<worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
Subject: Auto-reply problems
Date sent: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 14:46:44 -0500
Has anyone run into a problem with the auto-reply message through the
Personal Account Manager web interface?
The users go through the PAM, setup their auto-reply message and upon
returning they enter the PAM to remove the message only to find the
message is no longer there. The users think auto-reply is turned off
because there is no message but senders still receive the auto-reply
message.
I am able to clear it by going through the MMC and clearing the
message but this defeats the purpose of letting the user administer
their own auto-reply. I notice that when the auto-reply message is off
the default "Get message from a file" is bulleted with no pathname
specified. And when auto-reply is on the "Specify message text" is
bulleted with the text the user input.
This feature was working until recently and as far as I know there
have not been any changes to this system.
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From: "Joe Bauer" <Joe at VideoAge dot com>
Subject: Random Access Errors
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 15:19:44 -0600
I have been getting the following error message for the
past few weeks at random time intervals:
The application, , generated an application error The error
occurred on 3/21/2002 @ 12:34:10.671 The exception generated
was c0000005 at address 0042e2ad (<nosymbols>)
Can anyone tell me how to get rid of this problem?
Joe
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 11:39:40 -0600
From: Christine Bremer <cbremer at smm dot org>
Subject: re:random SMTPD.exe errors
Joe Bauer wrote:
>
> The error is the SMTPD.exe shutting down. If I manually
> restart it - it will run for some time ( 5 minutes to 5 hours).
> This only started in the last few weeks. The strange thing is
> I have changed the computer it is running on to a new
> Dell and it is like I changed nothing. I am trying another
> mailserver now - but if you figure anything out let me
> know. It seems like there are several of us having the
> same problem.
>
> Thanks,
> Joe
Chris wrote:
yes! that's one of the ones i meant, but wasnt' sure
the exact filename @ the time. (slapd causes a
similar problem)
the fix we have done, which seems to last for a while
at a time, is to :
1. make sure the worldmail service & PH2 service
are stopped. (usually, worldmail service stops
from this error, anyways.)
2. delete every file in c:\temp directory..
(usually consisting of qX10 qX11,etc &
nibltmp.txt)
-if you cannot delete everyfile in there,
you may also have to stop the 'worldmail
ldap/web gateway' service also. (it's been a
while since i've had to do this, so i can't
exactly remember if you have to stop that
service, too, or not.)
3. then re-start those services. sometimes it
also requires a re-boot to fix the problem
correctly, and that seems to fix it for even longer
periods of time.
The other possible problem is that it's running out
of virtual memory or ram when someone tries to send
too huge a file/ vice versa.
i think you want to make your VM about the same size
as the amount of ram you have. (and the more the
better, of course!)
if you find any better explanations/solutions, would
you mind passing them on to me/us, if you get the
chance?
ORIGINAL:
> > > From: "Joe Bauer" <Joe at VideoAge dot com>
> > > Subject: Random Access Errors
> > > Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 15:19:44 -0600
> > >
> > > I have been getting the following error message for the
> > > past few weeks at random time intervals:
> > >
> > > The application, , generated an application error The error
> > > occurred on 3/21/2002 @ 12:34:10.671 The exception generated
> > > was c0000005 at address 0042e2ad (<nosymbols>)
> > >
> > > Can anyone tell me how to get rid of this problem?
> > >
> > > Joe
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 16:14:44 -0500
From: Ann Compton <acompton at nationaloptronics dot com>
Subject: Move to DHCP and then Windows 2000
We are moving to a DHCP network and will need to reassign the mail server
address. What issues do I need to be concerned about?
Once that is accomplished I will be moving World Mail to a 2000
server. Are there any issues that I need to aware of here? I understand
that World Mail will work on 2000 but there are some issues that have to be
resolved.
Any help is appreciated.
Ann Compton
IT Director
From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Move to DHCP and then Windows 2000
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:09:19 -0000
See below
Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ann Compton [mailto:acompton at nationaloptronics dot com]
> Sent: 25 March 2002 21:15
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: Move to DHCP and then Windows 2000
>
>
> We are moving to a DHCP network and will need to reassign the mail server
> address. What issues do I need to be concerned about?
If your mail server is known outside your own network (i.e. you receive mail
directly from other SMTP servers on the internet [perhaps other than your
ISP]) then you will need a permanent address for the mail server. Could be
done with dual NICs.
Any desktops that were connecting to a numeric address for the mail server
will need updating.
Your internal dynamic address for the mail server will have to be
resolvable.
I suggest that you grant the mail server its own address - makes life much
easier.
IP address relay checking - your configuration of these will have to change
to match the new addresses.
>
> Once that is accomplished I will be moving World Mail to a 2000
> server. Are there any issues that I need to aware of here? I understand
> that World Mail will work on 2000 but there are some issues that
> have to be
> resolved.
There are a couple of issues - I believe that both are documented on
Qualcomm site.
a) DNS details - Microsoft moved the registry keys that were used to hold
addresses of DNS systems - so you have to add them back by hand
b) Management Center GUI has a problem with presenting one of its menus (I
suspect it is the menu that can change depending on what you click on).
Work round my not selecting that menu!
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> Ann Compton
> IT Director
>
>
From: "Chris Lander" <chris at altuscorp dot com>
Subject: RE: Move to DHCP and then Windows 2000
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:48:27 -0800
I've never used WorldMail on a DHCP server, so I can't be of much help
there.
My company has been running WorldMail on Windows 2000 Server for nearly a
year now, and we haven't experiences any problems. There are a few quirks,
such as the management interface freezing when you click on the toolbars
(doesn't affect the mailer service though). You'll also have to edit the
server's Registry with DNS information. Eudora has a support article
regarding the Registry edit at:
http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/2041hq.html
+---------------------------------------------------------+
Chris Lander Altus Learning Systems, Inc.
chris at altuscorp dot com (408) 210-7409
+---------------------------------------------------------+
PGP: 7495 24C2 D383 CF7B 1AA3 2788 4F5D ACE1 AC15 9FDD
-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Compton [mailto:acompton at nationaloptronics dot com]
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 13:15
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Move to DHCP and then Windows 2000
We are moving to a DHCP network and will need to reassign the mail server
address. What issues do I need to be concerned about?
Once that is accomplished I will be moving World Mail to a 2000
server. Are there any issues that I need to aware of here? I understand
that World Mail will work on 2000 but there are some issues that have to be
resolved.
Any help is appreciated.
Ann Compton
IT Director
From: "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 06:58:16 -0600
Subject: Distribution list "Advise" message
What do I do if I'm the owner of a distribution list and I get a message of "Please Advise" when
subscribing/unsubscribing list members? it doesn't matter if I or someone else sent it.
The list type is closed. On the message there is no instructions for the owner to do anything. What you guys
do?
Thanks,
Elliott
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ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com
(847) 634 4250 .x281
www.rentokil-tps.com
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From: "Tom Kemp" <KempT at presearch dot com>
Subject: RE: random SMTPD.exe errors
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 14:42:58 -0500
SMTPD errors occur on rare occasion on our server, as well, and have for
years. It's always been a matter of stopping and starting the service,
or rebooting the server. However, if you are seeing the error often,
one major cause is another SMTP product running on your server, such as
IIS. When you install IIS, it installs it's own SMTP service.
Evidently (and per Eudora Worldmail Support) multiple SMTP-type services
cannot coexist. The answer was to disable the service, whether by
manually disabling within the Services Control Panel or by
unininstalling the application.
Dennis T. Kemp II (Tom)
Program Manager/MCSE/CCNA/A+
Control Concepts, Inc.
8500 Executive Park Ave.
Suite 400
Fairfax, Va. 22031
KempT at controlconceptsinc dot com
703-876-6418
Fax# 703-876-6416
>
> Joe Bauer wrote:
> >
> > The error is the SMTPD.exe shutting down. If I manually
> > restart it - it will run for some time ( 5 minutes to 5 hours).
> > This only started in the last few weeks. The strange thing is
> > I have changed the computer it is running on to a new
> > Dell and it is like I changed nothing. I am trying another
> > mailserver now - but if you figure anything out let me
> > know. It seems like there are several of us having the
> > same problem.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Joe
>
> Chris wrote:
> yes! that's one of the ones i meant, but wasnt' sure
> the exact filename @ the time. (slapd causes a
> similar problem)
> the fix we have done, which seems to last for a while
> at a time, is to :
> 1. make sure the worldmail service & PH2 service
> are stopped. (usually, worldmail service stops
> from this error, anyways.)
> 2. delete every file in c:\temp directory..
> (usually consisting of qX10 qX11,etc &
> nibltmp.txt)
> -if you cannot delete everyfile in there,
> you may also have to stop the 'worldmail
> ldap/web gateway' service also. (it's been a
> while since i've had to do this, so i can't
> exactly remember if you have to stop that
> service, too, or not.)
> 3. then re-start those services. sometimes it
> also requires a re-boot to fix the problem
> correctly, and that seems to fix it for even longer
> periods of time.
>
> The other possible problem is that it's running out
> of virtual memory or ram when someone tries to send
> too huge a file/ vice versa.
> i think you want to make your VM about the same size
> as the amount of ram you have. (and the more the
> better, of course!)
>
> if you find any better explanations/solutions, would
> you mind passing them on to me/us, if you get the
> chance?
>
>
> ORIGINAL:
> > > > From: "Joe Bauer" <Joe at VideoAge dot com>
> > > > Subject: Random Access Errors
> > > > Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 15:19:44 -0600
> > > >
> > > > I have been getting the following error message for the
> > > > past few weeks at random time intervals:
> > > >
> > > > The application, , generated an application error The error
> > > > occurred on 3/21/2002 @ 12:34:10.671 The exception generated
> > > > was c0000005 at address 0042e2ad (<nosymbols>)
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone tell me how to get rid of this problem?
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------
Dennis T. Kemp II (Tom)
Program Manager/MCSE/CCNA/A+
Control Concepts, Inc.
8500 Executive Park Ave.
Suite 400
Fairfax, Va. 22031
KempT at controlconceptsinc dot com
703-876-6418
Fax# 703-876-6416
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