The worldmail list archive ending on 22 Jun 2004


Topics covered in this issue include:

  1. RE: Worldmail & Norton Antivirus
       "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
       Sun, 9 Mar 2003 10:23:33 -0000
  2. RE: WorldMail and SpamAssassin
       "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
       Sun, 9 Mar 2003 10:21:59 -0000
  3.  SMTP connections remaining open for very long time
       "John Kirchner" <jkirch at jumpsource dot com>
       Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:30:49 -0400
  4. Event viewer error 100
       "Ilse Melis" <imelis at rentokil-initial dot be>
       Mon, 14 Apr 2003 11:25:06 +0200
  5. MX- and NS- record is problem to Worldmail but not Earthlink
       LHA MIS <mis at lhaarchitects dot com>
       Mon, 19 May 2003 15:24:27 -0700
  6. Moving Servers
       "Cameron Biggart" <cameronb at yaffa.com dot au>
       Tue, 20 May 2003 12:10:56 +1000
  7. Re: Moving Servers
       "Cameron Biggart" <cameronb at yaffa.com dot au>
       Tue, 20 May 2003 12:33:02 +1000
  8. Re: Moving Servers
       LHA MIS <mis at lhaarchitects dot com>
       Mon, 19 May 2003 19:44:04 -0700
  9. Re: Moving Servers
       LHA MIS <mis at lhaarchitects dot com>
       Mon, 19 May 2003 20:11:09 -0700
 10. Re: Moving Servers
       LHA MIS <mis at lhaarchitects dot com>
       Mon, 19 May 2003 20:37:18 -0700
 11. Re: Moving Servers
       LHA MIS <mis at lhaarchitects dot com>
       Tue, 20 May 2003 10:19:00 -0700
 12. Delayed messages
       "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
       Wed, 21 May 2003 10:11:14 -0500
 13. RE: Delayed messages
       "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
       Sat, 24 May 2003 17:38:16 +0100
 14. RE: MX- and NS- record is problem to Worldmail but not Earthlink  or Yahoo, why?
       "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
       Sat, 24 May 2003 17:38:17 +0100
 15. Worldmail and IIS/ASP interaction
       "Thomas Esser" <thomas.esser at usi1 dot com>
       Tue, 24 Jun 2003 12:48:18 -0500
 16. RE: Worldmail and IIS/ASP interaction
       "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
       Tue, 24 Jun 2003 19:05:21 +0100
 17. Domain name change -
       "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
       Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:42:32 -0500
 18. Re: Domain name change -
       "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
       Tue, 01 Jul 2003 06:52:55 -0500
 19. RE: Domain name change -
       "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
       Thu, 3 Jul 2003 20:16:23 +0100
 20. Nibl error - can't import config
       "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
       Thu, 07 Aug 2003 10:06:14 -0500
 21. RE: Nibl error - can't import config
       "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
       Sun, 10 Aug 2003 14:09:58 +0100
 22. upgrade?!
       Katie Percy <katiepercy at fredfinch dot org>
       Thu, 21 Aug 2003 16:32:35 -0700
 23. Re: Domain name change -
       "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
       Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:26:39 -0500
 24. Webmail Program for Worldmail on Window NT
       "Jay Ligda" <jligda at lrb-creations dot com>
       Fri, 19 Sep 2003 08:07:43 -0700
 25. Re: Webmail Program for Worldmail on Window NT
       Matt Hemingway <matt at supplyedge dot com>
       Fri, 19 Sep 2003 08:16:26 -0700
 26. RE: Webmail Program for Worldmail on Window NT
       "Tony Fantaci" <TonyF at Alcottgroup dot com>
       Fri, 19 Sep 2003 11:40:16 -0400
 27. "Duplicate" messages
       "Ilse Melis" <imelis at rentokil-initial dot be>
       Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:49:40 +0200
 28. Sharing "stationery files"
       andreas01 at gmx dot at
       Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:49:00 +0100 (MET)
 29. logon time restrictions
       Cameron Biggart <cameronb at yaffa.com dot au>
       Fri, 16 Jan 2004 11:41:00 +1100
 30. RE: logon time restrictions
       "Rob E. Boyer" <rboyer at okproduce dot com>
       Thu, 15 Jan 2004 16:57:41 -0800
 31. Re: logon time restrictions
       Cameron Biggart <cameronb at yaffa.com dot au>
       Fri, 16 Jan 2004 12:10:24 +1100
 32. Wrong time on server logs
       Cameron Biggart <cameronb at yaffa.com dot au>
       Wed, 18 Feb 2004 17:01:26 +1100
 33. RE: Wrong time on server logs
       "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
       Wed, 18 Feb 2004 07:54:45 -0000
 34. welcome message
       Gina Senz <gsenz at aium dot org>
       Thu, 04 Mar 2004 16:20:46 -0500
 35. problems with welcom message
       Gina Senz <gsenz at aium dot org>
       Fri, 05 Mar 2004 12:13:48 -0500
 36. problems with welcome message
       Gina Senz <gsenz at aium dot org>
       Fri, 05 Mar 2004 13:07:43 -0500
 37. Unable to deliver local messages
       "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at initialplants dot com>
       Fri, 05 Mar 2004 12:37:32 -0600
 38. RE: Unable to deliver local messages
       "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
       Sat, 6 Mar 2004 13:03:13 -0000
 39. RE: problems with welcom message
       "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
       Sat, 6 Mar 2004 15:01:00 -0000
 40. RE: Unable to deliver local messages
       "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at initialplants dot com>
       Mon, 08 Mar 2004 10:01:09 -0600
 41. RE: Unable to deliver local messages
       "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
       Tue, 9 Mar 2004 21:04:35 -0000
 42. RE: Unable to deliver local messages
       "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at initialplants dot com>
       Wed, 10 Mar 2004 07:18:44 -0600
 43. RE: Unable to deliver local messages
       "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
       Thu, 11 Mar 2004 08:45:13 -0000
 44. hi
       tim at thefaxcompany dot com
       Wed, 2 Jun 2004 00:03:19 +0200
 45. hello
       acyr at admin.seu dot edu
       Wed, 2 Jun 2004 20:26:43 +0200
 46. stolen
       ian at impeccable dot org dot uk
       Sun, 6 Jun 2004 06:35:12 +0200
 47. something for you
       paul at spidersweb dot freeserve dot co dot uk
       Mon, 7 Jun 2004 17:09:18 +0200
 48. Looks like someone is sending spoof mail as me ... RE: something for you
       "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb dot freeserve dot co dot uk>
       Mon, 7 Jun 2004 16:40:50 +0100
 49. warning
       jhughes at sportsoftgolf dot com
       Mon, 7 Jun 2004 17:48:14 +0200
 50. fragmented messages
       Dirk Norman <dirk at torcom dot com>
       Tue, 22 Jun 2004 11:38:22 -0500

From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Worldmail & Norton Antivirus
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 10:23:33 -0000

Is NAV detecting the virus as the file is being written or on a periodic
sweep?
If it is while it is being written then I am not suprised that Worldmail has
the file locked ... it is still trying to write to it.
I doubt that Worldmail keeps hold of the file after it has finished writing
... because it woudl eventually run out of file handle resources.

Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trevor Bennet [mailto:trevor at idealsystems dot cc]
> Sent: 05 March 2003 22:45
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: Worldmail & Norton Antivirus
>
>
> We have this problem where Norton Antivirus will find an email with an
> attached virus in a users mailbox folder.  It will try to repair it, and
> then quarantine it.  I'm getting an access denied error from that mailbox.
> It looks like the worldmail server service has full rights to
> that file and
> can not be removed from that directory until the user pulls it down via
> their mail client.  Is there any way to give access to NAV to remove these
> viruses?  The mailbox folders have everyone as full rights and it
> still will
> not give access to the file.
>
> OS: NT server 4.0
> Worldmail v 2.0
> NAV 2001.
>
> Thanks, Trevor
>
>


From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: WorldMail and SpamAssassin
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 10:21:59 -0000

From memory ...
There is a Worldmail API called something like IMSFAPI [Internet Mail Server
Filter API], which allows you to filter the inbound SMTP mail between it
being accepted over the SMTP protocol and it being routed/delivered.

I think that you get a call with a file name ... with the SMTP message in
the file.
You can then return an Accept/Deny

Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Julien [mailto:daniel.julien at thc.state.tx dot us]
> Sent: 06 March 2003 17:01
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: WorldMail and SpamAssassin
>
>
> I'd like to be able to add spam filtering to WorldMail (SpamAssassin is
> what I have in mind), and am willing to do a little programming to get it
> going. One option would be to add a proxy server that intercepts the mail
> before it gets to WorldMail, but we already have one proxy there
> for virus
> scanning (McAfee SMTP Scan). There is a proxy available with
> SpamAssassin,
> but it is a contributed program written to run on Unix for a small
> workgroup. I've managed to modify it to run on Windows, I am not
> confident
> that it will be reliable under the load that we will put on it.
> And I'm not
> entirely happy with the idea of a growing chain of proxies
> handling e-mail.
> In my previous post, I was hoping for docs on an API that would
> allow me to
> set up another service that would communicate with WorldMail, getting
> incoming mail, processing it through SpamAssassin, then handing
> it back to
> WorldMail.
>
> If anyone has any relevant experience to share, I would appreciate it.
> Moving to another Windows mail server is not an option - our budget is
> being drastically cut (we are a state agency and are affected by the
> current revenue crisis). My options, given the $0 budget, seem to
> be either
> to make something work with WorldMail, or move to all Open Source
> stuff on
> Linux. If I do make this work with WorldMail, I'd be happy to
> post details
> to the list, if there is any interest.
> ------------------------------------
> Dan Julien
> Texas Historic Sites Atlas http://atlas.thc.state.tx.us
> Texas Historical Commission http://www.thc.state.tx.us
> danj at thc.state.tx dot us      512-463-7199
>
>


From: "John Kirchner" <jkirch at jumpsource dot com>
Subject: SMTP connections remaining open for very long time
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:30:49 -0400

hello all,

I frequently find active OUTGOING SMTP connections (in the management
center->current connections->server)  that have been active for many days.
In all cases, the number of bytes transmitted is relatively low, around 87
bytes.  I have seen connections that have been up for days (44 days in one
case).  I am not able to manually disconnect the session and I have to stop
and start the internet mail service to shake them free.


- more often than not I can trace the outgoing connection to different SMTP
servers  in China ( we do business with a lot of Chinese vendors) so I
wonder if it is an encoding issue?

I see a setting to disconnect idle INCOMING connections, but nothing for
OUTGOING connections.   Has anyone witnessed or solved this particular
problem ?

thanks
JK




From: "Ilse Melis" <imelis at rentokil-initial dot be>
Subject: Event viewer error 100
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 11:25:06 +0200

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Hi,


I got an error 100 in my Eventviewer (NT4.0 sp 6a).

Description : 

cannot open file 'D:\WorldMail\SMTP\MailDir\3E8134C2.MSG' for reading 
error 32 

Did someone experienced this error ? No one seems to have had a problem 
picking up their mails today ...


Regards,


Ilse 
E-mail : imelis at rentokil-initial dot be



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<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>I got an error 100 in my Eventviewer 
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reading error 32 </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Did someone experienced this error ? No one seems to 
have had 
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Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 15:24:27 -0700
From: LHA MIS <mis at lhaarchitects dot com>
Subject: MX- and NS- record is problem to Worldmail but not Earthlink

Hello you all,

We're a large architect firm that have numerous clients and consultants to 
deal with on the daily basis. What is really annoying to our employees (and 
through them to me as well), that we have several consultants that either...
- can not send emails to us or
- we can not send email to them or
- both.

By using a great DNS error report website http://www.dnsreport.com I can 
always see, that the potential cause of the problem can be with their MX or 
NS records.

BUT, what's really annoying is, that OK, our DNS config is fine and theirs 
is wrong, so we are the good guys and they are the bad ones, but HOW COME, 
that they CAN still send emails to and receive emails from such trivial 
email accounts like Yahoo.com or Earthlink.net ???

How come that Yahoo or Earthlink email servers are OK to communicate to 
these email server, but our Worldmail is not???

Does someone know, how to bypass this annoyance with Worldmail server and 
let it know somehow, that yes, IT IS OK to communicate to these and these 
email server even if their MX record ord NS record is not perfect.

How come that the email servers of yahoo and earthlink are more flexible 
than Worldmail??

Can someone explain this to me?

Geza




From: "Cameron Biggart" <cameronb at yaffa.com dot au>
Subject: Moving Servers
Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 12:10:56 +1000

Hi All

Can anyone help me? I'm trying to move my WorldMail from one server to
another and the new software has installed Ok but I can't get it to accept
our 100 users add-on option C that's listed in the original server license
manager.
I have checked and triple checked the activation key that's listed on the
old server, but all I get when I push the 'add key' button is an 'invalid
license number' popup.
Do I need to have a serial#/key pair to reinstall this license or am I doing
something wrong? If I need the pair how do I go about getting it re-issued
since I don't even know where this server was purchased (it was here before
I was) and there is no paperwork around for it anywhere that I can find.

Regards

Cameron Biggart
IT Manager
Yaffa Publishing
(02) 9281 2333
cameronb at yaffa.com dot au


From: "Cameron Biggart" <cameronb at yaffa.com dot au>
Subject: Re: Moving Servers
Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 12:33:02 +1000

Following up my own post - bad form I know.

Digging through an old garbage bin I found the original Volume licensing
certificate. The serial # on it was completely different to the original.
100 User licenses are now installed happily.
Now if only I could get the export and import utility working...

Regards

Cameron Biggart
IT Manager
Yaffa Publishing
(02) 9281 2333
cameronb at yaffa.com dot au


Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 19:44:04 -0700
From: LHA MIS <mis at lhaarchitects dot com>
Subject: Re: Moving Servers

If you still have your orig server up and running, I can tell you how to do 
it quickly.
Geza


At 12:33 PM 5/20/2003 +1000, you wrote:
>Following up my own post - bad form I know.
>
>Digging through an old garbage bin I found the original Volume licensing
>certificate. The serial # on it was completely different to the original.
>100 User licenses are now installed happily.
>Now if only I could get the export and import utility working...
>
>Regards
>
>Cameron Biggart
>IT Manager
>Yaffa Publishing
>(02) 9281 2333
>cameronb at yaffa.com dot au


Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 20:11:09 -0700
From: LHA MIS <mis at lhaarchitects dot com>
Subject: Re: Moving Servers

Cameron,

I have already responded to similar question in the past (in Sept of 2002), 
so I just copy/pasted that info here for you.

(the original question back then was about how to backup and restore Eudora 
Worldmail server.)

One more thing: In order to avoid disaster (with this method) you have to 
be familiar with regedit.exe , importing/exporting registry trees and the 
theory behind it.

You must use regedit.exe running locally on the email server, you can not 
import/export registry tree with regedt32.exe and/or remotely.


Geza

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

I backup the whole folder of Worldmail (application)
I backup the whole folder of the mailboxes (I keep them separate from the 
folders of Worldmail.)

Every time I modify any setting in Worldmail (including adding deleting 
users) I save/export the key of ISOCOR in the registry to another computer. 
(to a local file first of course.)
(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ISOCOR) ...so that I always have the latest 
backup of the key ISOCOR.

This way even if the whole server gets stolen,
- you can reinstall the Worldmail on another server (with the same Computer 
Name),
- then stop all Worldmail related services on the server,
- restore the folders of Qualcomm and the mailboxes
and restore the key of ISOCOR in the registry.
- and restart the Worldmail services.

Max. 1/2 hour should be enough for this whole restore process, most likely 
it would take longer time to create a server with an identical computer 
name, then restoring the Worldmail itself.


WARNING: IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO MESS WITH THE REGISTRY, DON'T MESS WITH 
IT. IT CAN MESS YOU UP BIG TIME!

P.s.: if you run any virus protection on your email server like WebShield 
from McAffee, you will have to deal with it too on the restored email 
server because of the modified SMTP and POP3 port configurations that would 
allow the virus shield to intercept virus infected emails before they would 
be sent.

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

At 12:52 PM 5/20/2003 +1000, you wrote:
>Geza
>
>Both are running fine - I'm not planning on going live on the new server
>just yet - but I'd love a trial run of the export/import in advance.
>
>Regards
>
>Cameron Biggart
>IT Manager
>Yaffa Publishing
>(02) 9281 2333
>cameronb at yaffa.com dot au
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "LHA MIS" <mis at lhaarchitects dot com>
>To: <mailto:>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 12:44 PM
>Subject: Re: Moving Servers
>
>
> > If you still have your orig server up and running, I can tell you how to
>do
> > it quickly.
> > Geza
> >
> >
> > At 12:33 PM 5/20/2003 +1000, you wrote:
> > >Following up my own post - bad form I know.
> > >
> > >Digging through an old garbage bin I found the original Volume licensing
> > >certificate. The serial # on it was completely different to the original.
> > >100 User licenses are now installed happily.
> > >Now if only I could get the export and import utility working...
> > >
> > >Regards
> > >
> > >Cameron Biggart
> > >IT Manager
> > >Yaffa Publishing
> > >(02) 9281 2333
> > >cameronb at yaffa.com dot au
> >


Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 20:37:18 -0700
From: LHA MIS <mis at lhaarchitects dot com>
Subject: Re: Moving Servers

Cameron,

You're welcome.

When it comes to external MX, and A  and NS records, you might want to 
double check this subject just to be safe and avoid surprises.

Just make sure, that you do a backup of your fresh installation (files, 
registry, etc.) in case something would go wrong. (to save yourself from 
reinstalling everything.)

Geza


At 01:27 PM 5/20/2003 +1000, you wrote:
>Geza
>
>What do I need to change in the registry exportfile if I am changing server
>names as part of the transfer. That is the servername is going from being
>mail to being Merlin while the DNS entries will alias mail=Merlin internally
>and externally the MX will point to the same IP address anyway.
>Thanks for your help with this.
>
>Regards
>
>Cameron Biggart
>IT Manager
>Yaffa Publishing
>(02) 9281 2333
>cameronb at yaffa.com dot au
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "LHA MIS" <mis at lhaarchitects dot com>
>To: <mailto:>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 1:11 PM
>Subject: Re: Moving Servers
>
>
> > Cameron,
> >
> > I have already responded to similar question in the past (in Sept of
>2002),
> > so I just copy/pasted that info here for you.
> >
> > (the original question back then was about how to backup and restore
>Eudora
> > Worldmail server.)
> >
> > One more thing: In order to avoid disaster (with this method) you have to
> > be familiar with regedit.exe , importing/exporting registry trees and the
> > theory behind it.
> >
> > You must use regedit.exe running locally on the email server, you can not
> > import/export registry tree with regedt32.exe and/or remotely.
> >
> >
> > Geza
> >
> > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
> >
> > I backup the whole folder of Worldmail (application)
> > I backup the whole folder of the mailboxes (I keep them separate from the
> > folders of Worldmail.)
> >
> > Every time I modify any setting in Worldmail (including adding deleting
> > users) I save/export the key of ISOCOR in the registry to another
>computer.
> > (to a local file first of course.)
> > (HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ISOCOR) ...so that I always have the latest
> > backup of the key ISOCOR.
> >
> > This way even if the whole server gets stolen,
> > - you can reinstall the Worldmail on another server (with the same
>Computer
> > Name),
> > - then stop all Worldmail related services on the server,
> > - restore the folders of Qualcomm and the mailboxes
> > and restore the key of ISOCOR in the registry.
> > - and restart the Worldmail services.
> >
> > Max. 1/2 hour should be enough for this whole restore process, most likely
> > it would take longer time to create a server with an identical computer
> > name, then restoring the Worldmail itself.
> >
> >
> > WARNING: IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO MESS WITH THE REGISTRY, DON'T MESS WITH
> > IT. IT CAN MESS YOU UP BIG TIME!
> >
> > P.s.: if you run any virus protection on your email server like WebShield
> > from McAffee, you will have to deal with it too on the restored email
> > server because of the modified SMTP and POP3 port configurations that
>would
> > allow the virus shield to intercept virus infected emails before they
>would
> > be sent.
> >
> > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
> >
> > At 12:52 PM 5/20/2003 +1000, you wrote:
> > >Geza
> > >
> > >Both are running fine - I'm not planning on going live on the new server
> > >just yet - but I'd love a trial run of the export/import in advance.
> > >
> > >Regards
> > >
> > >Cameron Biggart
> > >IT Manager
> > >Yaffa Publishing
> > >(02) 9281 2333
> > >cameronb at yaffa.com dot au
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "LHA MIS" <mis at lhaarchitects dot com>
> > >To: <mailto:>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 12:44 PM
> > >Subject: Re: Moving Servers
> > >
> > >
> > > > If you still have your orig server up and running, I can tell you how
>to
> > >do
> > > > it quickly.
> > > > Geza
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 12:33 PM 5/20/2003 +1000, you wrote:
> > > > >Following up my own post - bad form I know.
> > > > >
> > > > >Digging through an old garbage bin I found the original Volume
>licensing
> > > > >certificate. The serial # on it was completely different to the
>original.
> > > > >100 User licenses are now installed happily.
> > > > >Now if only I could get the export and import utility working...
> > > > >
> > > > >Regards
> > > > >
> > > > >Cameron Biggart
> > > > >IT Manager
> > > > >Yaffa Publishing
> > > > >(02) 9281 2333
> > > > >cameronb at yaffa.com dot au
> > > >
> >


Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 10:19:00 -0700
From: LHA MIS <mis at lhaarchitects dot com>
Subject: Re: Moving Servers

Cameron,

I have never tried to restore Worldmail with a different server name, that 
would easily bruise the line of hacking or cracking anyway.

Geza


At 01:55 PM 5/20/2003 +1000, you wrote:
>Geza
>
>Sorry, I think my question got garbled in the asking. I just wanted to know
>what I had to change in the registry export file to be able to import it
>successfully to the new box that has a different name than the original.
>
>Regards
>
>Cameron Biggart
>IT Manager
>Yaffa Publishing
>(02) 9281 2333
>cameronb at yaffa.com dot au
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "LHA MIS" <mis at lhaarchitects dot com>
>To: <mailto:>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 1:37 PM
>Subject: Re: Moving Servers
>
>
> > Cameron,
> >
> > You're welcome.
> >
> > When it comes to external MX, and A  and NS records, you might want to
> > double check this subject just to be safe and avoid surprises.
> >
> > Just make sure, that you do a backup of your fresh installation (files,
> > registry, etc.) in case something would go wrong. (to save yourself from
> > reinstalling everything.)
> >
> > Geza
> >
> >
> > At 01:27 PM 5/20/2003 +1000, you wrote:
> > >Geza
> > >
> > >What do I need to change in the registry exportfile if I am changing
>server
> > >names as part of the transfer. That is the servername is going from being
> > >mail to being Merlin while the DNS entries will alias mail=Merlin
>internally
> > >and externally the MX will point to the same IP address anyway.
> > >Thanks for your help with this.
> > >
> > >Regards
> > >
> > >Cameron Biggart
> > >IT Manager
> > >Yaffa Publishing
> > >(02) 9281 2333
> > >cameronb at yaffa.com dot au
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "LHA MIS" <mis at lhaarchitects dot com>
> > >To: <mailto:>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 1:11 PM
> > >Subject: Re: Moving Servers
> > >
> > >
> > > > Cameron,
> > > >
> > > > I have already responded to similar question in the past (in Sept of
> > >2002),
> > > > so I just copy/pasted that info here for you.
> > > >
> > > > (the original question back then was about how to backup and restore
> > >Eudora
> > > > Worldmail server.)
> > > >
> > > > One more thing: In order to avoid disaster (with this method) you have
>to
> > > > be familiar with regedit.exe , importing/exporting registry trees and
>the
> > > > theory behind it.
> > > >
> > > > You must use regedit.exe running locally on the email server, you can
>not
> > > > import/export registry tree with regedt32.exe and/or remotely.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Geza
> > > >
> > > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
> > > >
> > > > I backup the whole folder of Worldmail (application)
> > > > I backup the whole folder of the mailboxes (I keep them separate from
>the
> > > > folders of Worldmail.)
> > > >
> > > > Every time I modify any setting in Worldmail (including adding
>deleting
> > > > users) I save/export the key of ISOCOR in the registry to another
> > >computer.
> > > > (to a local file first of course.)
> > > > (HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ISOCOR) ...so that I always have the
>latest
> > > > backup of the key ISOCOR.
> > > >
> > > > This way even if the whole server gets stolen,
> > > > - you can reinstall the Worldmail on another server (with the same
> > >Computer
> > > > Name),
> > > > - then stop all Worldmail related services on the server,
> > > > - restore the folders of Qualcomm and the mailboxes
> > > > and restore the key of ISOCOR in the registry.
> > > > - and restart the Worldmail services.
> > > >
> > > > Max. 1/2 hour should be enough for this whole restore process, most
>likely
> > > > it would take longer time to create a server with an identical
>computer
> > > > name, then restoring the Worldmail itself.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > WARNING: IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO MESS WITH THE REGISTRY, DON'T MESS
>WITH
> > > > IT. IT CAN MESS YOU UP BIG TIME!
> > > >
> > > > P.s.: if you run any virus protection on your email server like
>WebShield
> > > > from McAffee, you will have to deal with it too on the restored email
> > > > server because of the modified SMTP and POP3 port configurations that
> > >would
> > > > allow the virus shield to intercept virus infected emails before they
> > >would
> > > > be sent.
> > > >
> > > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
> > > >
> > > > At 12:52 PM 5/20/2003 +1000, you wrote:
> > > > >Geza
> > > > >
> > > > >Both are running fine - I'm not planning on going live on the new
>server
> > > > >just yet - but I'd love a trial run of the export/import in advance.
> > > > >
> > > > >Regards
> > > > >
> > > > >Cameron Biggart
> > > > >IT Manager
> > > > >Yaffa Publishing
> > > > >(02) 9281 2333
> > > > >cameronb at yaffa.com dot au
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "LHA MIS" <mis at lhaarchitects dot com>
> > > > >To: <mailto:>
> > > > >Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 12:44 PM
> > > > >Subject: Re: Moving Servers
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > If you still have your orig server up and running, I can tell you
>how
> > >to
> > > > >do
> > > > > > it quickly.
> > > > > > Geza
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At 12:33 PM 5/20/2003 +1000, you wrote:
> > > > > > >Following up my own post - bad form I know.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Digging through an old garbage bin I found the original Volume
> > >licensing
> > > > > > >certificate. The serial # on it was completely different to the
> > >original.
> > > > > > >100 User licenses are now installed happily.
> > > > > > >Now if only I could get the export and import utility working...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Regards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Cameron Biggart
> > > > > > >IT Manager
> > > > > > >Yaffa Publishing
> > > > > > >(02) 9281 2333
> > > > > > >cameronb at yaffa.com dot au
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >


From: "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 10:11:14 -0500
Subject: Delayed messages

Some of my users are not getting their messages on time.  And by 
on time less than 15mn, being conservative.  Sometimes it takes a 
few hours, maybe 1 or 2 days!

the headers look fine but when I go check their mailbox folder, there 
is nothing in there.  In this instance, I can't check the logs because 
the darn logging stopped for no apparent reason (that's another 
story)

this is the header of a message sent on friday @13:35 and received 
on monday morning, althought it says it arrived at our server 
(rentokil.mis) @12:39pm (central time)

Why is this happening?

mail.mailscanner.com: our antivirus scanner server (outsourced)
aaa.aa.aa.aaa: our public ip address


Return-Path: <senderaddress0 at rentokil-tps dot com>
Received: from mail.mailscanner.com (bb.bb.bb.bb) by rentokil.mis 
(Worldmail 1.3.167); 16 May 2003 12:39:54 -0500
X-VirusChecked: Checked
X-SpamReason: No, hits=2.0 required=7.0 
tests=CYNIC_B_BAD,HTML_50_60,
 HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_LINK
X-Env-Sender: senderaddress0 at rentokil-tps dot com
X-Msg-Ref: mailserver.mailscanner.com!1053106515!37254
Received: (qmail 19365 invoked from network); 16 May 2003 
17:35:16 -0000
Received: from proxy.rentokil-tps.com (HELO 31xxxxx) 
(aaa.aa.aa.aaa)
 by mailserver.mailscanner.com with SMTP; 16 May 2003 17:35:16 
-0000
Message-ID: 
<001101c31bd1$8facfee0$16ea1bac@senderaddresspc>
From: "Mr X" <senderaddress0 at rentokil-tps dot com>
To: "Mrs Y" <toaddress0 at rentokil-tps dot com>
Cc: "Mrs. Z" <toaddress1 at rentokil-tps dot com>
Subject: subject edited
Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 13:35:31 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;




Thank you, Elliott

==============================
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(847) 634 4250 ext. 281  / Fax: (847) 634 6820
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From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Delayed messages
Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 17:38:16 +0100

Mail headers and time stamps in particular can be a pain to decipher ... but
I see the folowing and re-calculate into GMT as shown:
16 May 2003 12:39:54 -0500 ... 17:39:54
16 May 2003 17:35:16 -0000 ... 17:35:16
16 May 2003 17:35:16 -0000 ... 17:35:16
16 May 2003 13:35:31 -0400 ... 17:35:31

i.e. ... clearly the clocks are not all accurate, but it looks like a 4 and
a half minute delay between the last 2 hops.

Of course - I might be adding the time the wrong way - but if my
interpretation is wrong then it is an amazing co-incidence that the minutes
are so close.

Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elliott Bujan [mailto:ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com]
> Sent: 21 May 2003 16:11
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: Delayed messages
>
>
> Some of my users are not getting their messages on time.  And by
> on time less than 15mn, being conservative.  Sometimes it takes a
> few hours, maybe 1 or 2 days!
>
> the headers look fine but when I go check their mailbox folder, there
> is nothing in there.  In this instance, I can't check the logs because
> the darn logging stopped for no apparent reason (that's another
> story)
>
> this is the header of a message sent on friday @13:35 and received
> on monday morning, althought it says it arrived at our server
> (rentokil.mis) @12:39pm (central time)
>
> Why is this happening?
>
> mail.mailscanner.com: our antivirus scanner server (outsourced)
> aaa.aa.aa.aaa: our public ip address
>
>
> Return-Path: <senderaddress0 at rentokil-tps dot com>
> Received: from mail.mailscanner.com (bb.bb.bb.bb) by rentokil.mis
> (Worldmail 1.3.167); 16 May 2003 12:39:54 -0500
> X-VirusChecked: Checked
> X-SpamReason: No, hits=2.0 required=7.0
> tests=CYNIC_B_BAD,HTML_50_60,
>  HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_LINK
> X-Env-Sender: senderaddress0 at rentokil-tps dot com
> X-Msg-Ref: mailserver.mailscanner.com!1053106515!37254
> Received: (qmail 19365 invoked from network); 16 May 2003
> 17:35:16 -0000
> Received: from proxy.rentokil-tps.com (HELO 31xxxxx)
> (aaa.aa.aa.aaa)
>  by mailserver.mailscanner.com with SMTP; 16 May 2003 17:35:16
> -0000
> Message-ID:
> <001101c31bd1$8facfee0$16ea1bac@senderaddresspc>
> From: "Mr X" <senderaddress0 at rentokil-tps dot com>
> To: "Mrs Y" <toaddress0 at rentokil-tps dot com>
> Cc: "Mrs. Z" <toaddress1 at rentokil-tps dot com>
> Subject: subject edited
> Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 13:35:31 -0400
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>
>
>
>
> Thank you, Elliott
>
> ==============================
> Elliott Bujan
> Help Desk / MIS
> Rentokil, TPS - USA
> (847) 634 4250 ext. 281  / Fax: (847) 634 6820
> ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com
> www.rentokil-tps.com
>
> ==============================
>
>
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From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: MX- and NS- record is problem to Worldmail but not Earthlink  or Yahoo, why?
Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 17:38:17 +0100

Wh is it like this ... because the programmer that wrote it was (is) a real
stickler for conformance to standards. Persuading him to do it "wrong" was
very hard and would have required a lot of evidence to justify it.

Can you get around it ... partly ... if you are lucky enough to have a
regular set of correspondents that show this problem (which is likely in
business-to-business mail) then you could look at setting up a custom domain
for the problem ones and point it directly to their mail server.

Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LHA MIS [mailto:mis at lhaarchitects dot com]
> Sent: 19 May 2003 23:24
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: MX- and NS- record is problem to Worldmail but not Earthlink or
> Yahoo, why?
>
>
> Hello you all,
>
> We're a large architect firm that have numerous clients and
> consultants to
> deal with on the daily basis. What is really annoying to our
> employees (and
> through them to me as well), that we have several consultants
> that either...
> - can not send emails to us or
> - we can not send email to them or
> - both.
>
> By using a great DNS error report website http://www.dnsreport.com I can
> always see, that the potential cause of the problem can be with
> their MX or
> NS records.
>
> BUT, what's really annoying is, that OK, our DNS config is fine
> and theirs
> is wrong, so we are the good guys and they are the bad ones, but
> HOW COME,
> that they CAN still send emails to and receive emails from such trivial
> email accounts like Yahoo.com or Earthlink.net ???
>
> How come that Yahoo or Earthlink email servers are OK to communicate to
> these email server, but our Worldmail is not???
>
> Does someone know, how to bypass this annoyance with Worldmail server and
> let it know somehow, that yes, IT IS OK to communicate to these and these
> email server even if their MX record ord NS record is not perfect.
>
> How come that the email servers of yahoo and earthlink are more flexible
> than Worldmail??
>
> Can someone explain this to me?
>
> Geza
>
>
>
>


From: "Thomas Esser" <thomas.esser at usi1 dot com>
Subject: Worldmail and IIS/ASP interaction
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 12:48:18 -0500

Hello,

    I have one Win 2000 machine that I need to use to run both Worldmail and
IIS.  Several of the web sites product sample request pages with ASP code
which produce email messages for customer service people.  However, the
messages hang up in the IIS SMTP service and are never sent.  I had this
working at one time, but for the life of me I cannot remember how to get
these two working together.  If someone could provide some direction as to
how to get the IIS sourced email (CDONTS) on its way, it would be greatly
appreciated.

Regards, Thomas
---
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From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Worldmail and IIS/ASP interaction
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 19:05:21 +0100

I see from my archive that back in May 2002 (when similar question came up)
someone suggested http://persits.com for an ASPMail component.
It wasn't really a solution to the question as asked but seemed to be a good
alternative.

I have no idea how CDONTS ... but if you enable detailed SMTP tracing (via
ISOTRACE) do you see anything happen when it tries to submit?

Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Esser [mailto:thomas.esser at usi1 dot com]
> Sent: 24 June 2003 18:48
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: Worldmail and IIS/ASP interaction
>
>
> Hello,
>
>     I have one Win 2000 machine that I need to use to run both
> Worldmail and
> IIS.  Several of the web sites product sample request pages with ASP code
> which produce email messages for customer service people.  However, the
> messages hang up in the IIS SMTP service and are never sent.  I had this
> working at one time, but for the life of me I cannot remember how to get
> these two working together.  If someone could provide some direction as to
> how to get the IIS sourced email (CDONTS) on its way, it would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Regards, Thomas
> ---
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>
>


From: "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:42:32 -0500
Subject: Domain name change -

Our company is going to change our name and domain name as well.  
I need some suggestions on how we go about changing our mail 
server to go through this transition.

Our Worldmail only has one local domain (domain1) with about 300 
active users.

My idea was to 
1- change all our email clients (OE) so the username is in the form of 
username%domain1 so they can access their old domain1 account 
when we implement step 2,

2-create a second local domain, domain2, and create aliases pointing 
to domain1.  As we need to create new users, we will do it in domain2.  

3- When we feel confortable, in domain2, swap aliases w/real user 
accounts to domain2 and delete old domain1.

Should I be thinking of a custom domain instead of a 2nd domain?  
What else should I be considering?


Thanks for your suggestions.

Elliott

==============================
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Help Desk / MIS
Rentokil, TPS - USA
(847) 634 4250 ext. 281  / Fax: (847) 634 6820
ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com
www.rentokil-tps.com

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From: "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 06:52:55 -0500
Subject: Re: Domain name change -

Lasse,

Yes I could do it at the begining since we will start with only 2 offices 
which will represent a small head count.  But a month later we will 
convert the rest of the users to the new name, like around 250+ users.

We were going to instruct all the users to make the changes 
themselves: username, and reply address.  I'm not too concerned 
about the server names because those are names and not IP #s, 
because we have our own DNS server to control them.

Elliott



On 1 Jul 2003 at 9:46, Lasse Gustafsson wrote:

Send reply to:  	"Lasse Gustafsson" <lasse at ecology.su dot se>
From:           	"Lasse Gustafsson" <lasse at ecology.su dot se>
To:             	"Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
Subject:        	Re: Domain name change -
Date sent:      	Tue, 1 Jul 2003 09:46:59 +0200

Your steps sounds good, but wouldn't it be less work for you to keep
the current domain (domain1) as the primary and when adding new 
users,
do a username%domain2?

Or is this something you think your users may be able to change by
themselves?

Lasse

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
To: "Subscribers of WorldMail" <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 5:42 PM
Subject: Domain name change -


> Our company is going to change our name and domain name as 
well.  I
> need some suggestions on how we go about changing our mail 
server to
> go through this transition.
> 
> Our Worldmail only has one local domain (domain1) with about 300
> active users.
> 
> My idea was to 
> 1- change all our email clients (OE) so the username is in the form
> of username%domain1 so they can access their old domain1 
account
> when we implement step 2,
> 
> 2-create a second local domain, domain2, and create aliases 
pointing
> to domain1.  As we need to create new users, we will do it in
> domain2.  
> 
> 3- When we feel confortable, in domain2, swap aliases w/real user
> accounts to domain2 and delete old domain1.
> 
> Should I be thinking of a custom domain instead of a 2nd domain? 
> What else should I be considering?
> 
> 
> Thanks for your suggestions.
> 
> Elliott
> 
> ==============================
> Elliott Bujan
> Help Desk / MIS
> Rentokil, TPS - USA
> (847) 634 4250 ext. 281  / Fax: (847) 634 6820
> ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com
> www.rentokil-tps.com
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> 
> 
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From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Domain name change -
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 20:16:23 +0100

Have a look in the API docs and see if there is a DefaultDomain setting (not
sure if it is exposed in your GUI).
If it is then ... when you have a 2nd domain you can set DefaultDomain to
the 1st domain ... then you shouldn't need to ask existing users to change
their setup.
New users would need a domain2 in their login ... but once you are happy ..
you could change default domain to domain2 and the users who had not yet
swapped would be switched automatically.

However, your users will have to edit their email address for outbound mail
(not sure if you have the feature that can append default domain if none
given ...)

Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elliott Bujan [mailto:ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com]
> Sent: 01 July 2003 12:53
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: Re: Domain name change -
>
>
> Lasse,
>
> Yes I could do it at the begining since we will start with only 2 offices
> which will represent a small head count.  But a month later we will
> convert the rest of the users to the new name, like around 250+ users.
>
> We were going to instruct all the users to make the changes
> themselves: username, and reply address.  I'm not too concerned
> about the server names because those are names and not IP #s,
> because we have our own DNS server to control them.
>
> Elliott
>
>
>
> On 1 Jul 2003 at 9:46, Lasse Gustafsson wrote:
>
> Send reply to:  	"Lasse Gustafsson" <lasse at ecology.su dot se>
> From:           	"Lasse Gustafsson" <lasse at ecology.su dot se>
> To:             	"Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
> Subject:        	Re: Domain name change -
> Date sent:      	Tue, 1 Jul 2003 09:46:59 +0200
>
> Your steps sounds good, but wouldn't it be less work for you to keep
> the current domain (domain1) as the primary and when adding new
> users,
> do a username%domain2?
>
> Or is this something you think your users may be able to change by
> themselves?
>
> Lasse
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
> To: "Subscribers of WorldMail" <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 5:42 PM
> Subject: Domain name change -
>
>
> > Our company is going to change our name and domain name as
> well.  I
> > need some suggestions on how we go about changing our mail
> server to
> > go through this transition.
> >
> > Our Worldmail only has one local domain (domain1) with about 300
> > active users.
> >
> > My idea was to
> > 1- change all our email clients (OE) so the username is in the form
> > of username%domain1 so they can access their old domain1
> account
> > when we implement step 2,
> >
> > 2-create a second local domain, domain2, and create aliases
> pointing
> > to domain1.  As we need to create new users, we will do it in
> > domain2.
> >
> > 3- When we feel confortable, in domain2, swap aliases w/real user
> > accounts to domain2 and delete old domain1.
> >
> > Should I be thinking of a custom domain instead of a 2nd domain?
> > What else should I be considering?
> >
> >
> > Thanks for your suggestions.
> >
> > Elliott
> >
> > ==============================
> > Elliott Bujan
> > Help Desk / MIS
> > Rentokil, TPS - USA
> > (847) 634 4250 ext. 281  / Fax: (847) 634 6820
> > ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com
> > www.rentokil-tps.com
> >
> > ==============================
> >
> >
> >
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> (847) 634 4250 ext. 281  / Fax: (847) 634 6820
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From: "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 10:06:14 -0500
Subject: Nibl error - can't import config

I installed worldmail 2.0 on a win2k machine for testing but now I can't 
export the config using nibl -e -f filename.txt.  The error I get is : 
"abnornal program termination"

I can import a config file with no problem
what can it be happening? is it the fact that it nibl doesn't run on win2k?

Thank you,

Elliott

==============================
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Network / Web  Administrator
Rentokil, TPS - USA
(847) 634 4250 ext. 281  / Fax: (847) 634 6820
ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com
www.rentokil-tps.com

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From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Nibl error - can't import config
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 14:09:58 +0100

NIBL should be fine on Win2K

I guess checking Win2K patch service pack levels might help ... but it is a
long shot.
Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elliott Bujan [mailto:ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com]
> Sent: 07 August 2003 16:06
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: Nibl error - can't import config
>
>
> I installed worldmail 2.0 on a win2k machine for testing but now I can't
> export the config using nibl -e -f filename.txt.  The error I get is :
> "abnornal program termination"
>
> I can import a config file with no problem
> what can it be happening? is it the fact that it nibl doesn't run
> on win2k?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Elliott
>
> ==============================
> Elliott Bujan
> Network / Web  Administrator
> Rentokil, TPS - USA
> (847) 634 4250 ext. 281  / Fax: (847) 634 6820
> ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com
> www.rentokil-tps.com
>
> ==============================
>
>
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Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 16:32:35 -0700
From: Katie Percy <katiepercy at fredfinch dot org>
Subject: upgrade?!

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I just got off the phone with Qualcomm and they said Worldmail is being 
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they're expecting a release in a couple months.

I'm not the only one who's thought for years that this was an EOL product 
am I?  Apparently it's been a floating fish because of squabbles over 
source code that are being resolved.

Believe it when you see it -- but keep your eyes peeled.


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From: "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:26:39 -0500
Subject: Re: Domain name change -

As a follow up to this, I have to tell you that everything went well.
the steps that I followed were the following, finding just one problem: I created a single 
file defining both domains (real accounts on new domain, and aliases on the old 
domain) but it didn't work (I thought I could do it in one shot, wroooong!).  At some point 
in the import process, the server started duplicating mailboxes and I ran out of licenses.  
We didn't want to buy anymore licenses for a software that is not being developed 
anymore and since we're thinking on switching later on. That's why I did the following:

	Created a 2nd domain (empty)
	Exported current config (nibl.exe -e....)
	Deleted everything from 1st domain
	Imported new modified config and ta da!

Eveything is working fine - just don't forget to set your new domain as the default 
domain, otherwise you have to change your client software login to 
xxx%domainname.com (and when you have 400 users, it's a pain)

Elliott

On 1 Jul 2003 at 6:52, worldmail wrote:

From:           	Elliott Bujan <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
To:             	worldmail
Subject:        	Re: Domain name change -
Send reply to:  	ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com
Date sent:      	Tue, 01 Jul 2003 06:52:57 -0500

Lasse,

Yes I could do it at the begining since we will start with only 2
offices which will represent a small head count.  But a month later we
will convert the rest of the users to the new name, like around 250+
users.

We were going to instruct all the users to make the changes 
themselves: username, and reply address.  I'm not too concerned 
about the server names because those are names and not IP #s, 
because we have our own DNS server to control them.

Elliott



On 1 Jul 2003 at 9:46, Lasse Gustafsson wrote:

Send reply to:  	"Lasse Gustafsson" <lasse at ecology.su dot se>
From:           	"Lasse Gustafsson" <lasse at ecology.su dot se>
To:             	"Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
Subject:        	Re: Domain name change -
Date sent:      	Tue, 1 Jul 2003 09:46:59 +0200

Your steps sounds good, but wouldn't it be less work for you to keep
the current domain (domain1) as the primary and when adding new users,
do a username%domain2?

Or is this something you think your users may be able to change by
themselves?

Lasse

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
To: "Subscribers of WorldMail" <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 5:42 PM
Subject: Domain name change -


> Our company is going to change our name and domain name as 
well.  I
> need some suggestions on how we go about changing our mail 
server to
> go through this transition.
> 
> Our Worldmail only has one local domain (domain1) with about 300
> active users.
> 
> My idea was to 
> 1- change all our email clients (OE) so the username is in the form
> of username%domain1 so they can access their old domain1 
account
> when we implement step 2,
> 
> 2-create a second local domain, domain2, and create aliases 
pointing
> to domain1.  As we need to create new users, we will do it in
> domain2.  
> 
> 3- When we feel confortable, in domain2, swap aliases w/real user
> accounts to domain2 and delete old domain1.
> 
> Should I be thinking of a custom domain instead of a 2nd domain?
> What else should I be considering?
> 
> 
> Thanks for your suggestions.
> 
> Elliott
> 
> ==============================
> Elliott Bujan
> Help Desk / MIS
> Rentokil, TPS - USA
> (847) 634 4250 ext. 281  / Fax: (847) 634 6820
> ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com
> www.rentokil-tps.com
> 
> ==============================
> 
> 
> 
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Elliott

==============================
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Help Desk / MIS
Rentokil, TPS - USA
(847) 634 4250 ext. 281  / Fax: (847) 634 6820
ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com
www.rentokil-tps.com

==============================



Thank you,

Elliott

==============================
Elliott Bujan
Network/Web Administrator
Rentokil, TPS - USA
(847) 634 4250 ext. 281  / Fax: (847) 634 6820
ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com
www.rentokil-tps.com

==============================


From: "Jay Ligda" <jligda at lrb-creations dot com>
Subject: Webmail Program for Worldmail on Window NT
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 08:07:43 -0700

Hello,

My clients need web access to their mail.  Is there a program that will work
with Worldmail and a Windows NT platform that will allow this?

Jay


The quote of the month for September is by Lao Tzu:

"Give a man a fish and you feed him for the day. Teach a man to fish and you
feed him for a lifetime."

(Pass it on to a friend or two)

You can visit the monthly quote web-site at:
http://www.monthlyquote.com




Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 08:16:26 -0700
From: Matt Hemingway <matt at supplyedge dot com>
Subject: Re: Webmail Program for Worldmail on Window NT

I used:

http://www.squirrelmail.org/

It was super simple to setup and customize....if you know Linux.

-Matt

On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 08:07:43 -0700
"Jay Ligda" <jligda at lrb-creations dot com> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> My clients need web access to their mail.  Is there a program that will work
> with Worldmail and a Windows NT platform that will allow this?
> 
> Jay
> 
> 
> The quote of the month for September is by Lao Tzu:
> 
> "Give a man a fish and you feed him for the day. Teach a man to fish and you
> feed him for a lifetime."
> 
> (Pass it on to a friend or two)
> 
> You can visit the monthly quote web-site at:
> http://www.monthlyquote.com
> 
> 
> 
> 


-- 
===============
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PCNAlert
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From: "Tony Fantaci" <TonyF at Alcottgroup dot com>
Subject: RE: Webmail Program for Worldmail on Window NT
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 11:40:16 -0400

There are a lot of free websites that can check any POP3 mail server. My
favorite is www.mail2web.com
Just enter your email address and your password and viola!

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Ligda [mailto:jligda at lrb-creations dot com]
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 11:08 AM
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Webmail Program for Worldmail on Window NT

Hello,

My clients need web access to their mail.  Is there a program that will work
with Worldmail and a Windows NT platform that will allow this?

Jay


The quote of the month for September is by Lao Tzu:

"Give a man a fish and you feed him for the day. Teach a man to fish and you
feed him for a lifetime."

(Pass it on to a friend or two)

You can visit the monthly quote web-site at:
http://www.monthlyquote.com




From: "Ilse Melis" <imelis at rentokil-initial dot be>
Subject: "Duplicate" messages
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:49:40 +0200

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Hi,

Is someone familiar with the next problem ? 

- User says, he only sent the message once but the recipients got it 
twice.
- Message ID in log is different but ... seems there's a "double" SMTP 
connection ??????
- User says it's only when he sends mails with attachments ...


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62.233.2.54

Ilse Melis
System Administrator
IT Department
INITIAL SECURITY  NV/SA
Nieuwbrugstraat 85
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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:49:00 +0100 (MET)
From: andreas01 at gmx dot at
Subject: Sharing "stationery files"

Hello,

I have a question concerning the features of WorldMail.

In our business company we would like to share "stationery files". We would
like to have one machine on which we can manage, save and use "stationery
files". Every user in the network with his own e-mail client (Eudora) should
have the possibility to access those "stationery files" (which are saved on a
single machine for sharing) for sending e-mails on their own computers.

We have currently running Eudora 5.1 (Windows) in our company and I can't
find any feature in this version which could solve our problem. I was asking if
Eudora WorldMail would be the right solution for our company.

I would be very thankfully if you can provide me with any solution.

Kind regards,
Andreas

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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 11:41:00 +1100
From: Cameron Biggart <cameronb at yaffa.com dot au>
Subject: logon time restrictions

Hi

Using worldmail we want to restrict our users so that they can't check 
mail between 11am and 4pm. In the access tab of the user profile there 
is a space for custom access times but they are times to allow access 
not times to restrict it and I can't find an option that allows you to 
have 2 allowed times per day (i.e. 0001-1100 and 1600-0000) which would 
give the needed result.
Are the settings for access restriction stored anywhere that they can be 
manually set rather than using the GUI in the access tab of the user 
profile?

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IT Manager
Yaffa Publishing
(02) 9281 2333
cameronb at yaffa.com dot au


From: "Rob E. Boyer" <rboyer at okproduce dot com>
Subject: RE: logon time restrictions
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 16:57:41 -0800

Have you tried allowing access from 1601-1059? 

-----Original Message-----
From: Cameron Biggart [mailto:cameronb at yaffa.com dot au] 
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 4:41 PM
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: logon time restrictions

Hi

Using worldmail we want to restrict our users so that they can't check 
mail between 11am and 4pm. In the access tab of the user profile there 
is a space for custom access times but they are times to allow access 
not times to restrict it and I can't find an option that allows you to 
have 2 allowed times per day (i.e. 0001-1100 and 1600-0000) which would 
give the needed result.
Are the settings for access restriction stored anywhere that they can be 
manually set rather than using the GUI in the access tab of the user 
profile?

-- 
Regards

Cameron Biggart
IT Manager
Yaffa Publishing
(02) 9281 2333
cameronb at yaffa.com dot au



Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 12:10:24 +1100
From: Cameron Biggart <cameronb at yaffa.com dot au>
Subject: Re: logon time restrictions

Rob E. Boyer wrote:
> Have you tried allowing access from 1601-1059? 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cameron Biggart [mailto:cameronb at yaffa.com dot au] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 4:41 PM
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: logon time restrictions
> 
> Hi
> 
> Using worldmail we want to restrict our users so that they can't check 
> mail between 11am and 4pm. In the access tab of the user profile there 
> is a space for custom access times but they are times to allow access 
> not times to restrict it and I can't find an option that allows you to 
> have 2 allowed times per day (i.e. 0001-1100 and 1600-0000) which would 
> give the needed result.
> Are the settings for access restriction stored anywhere that they can be 
> manually set rather than using the GUI in the access tab of the user 
> profile?
> 
Yes, that's the first thing I tried (my logic works the same as yours 
apparently).
However if you try that you get the message "Specified start time must 
be less than the ending time"
It appears to be working now as I went into the 
\localdomains\domain\names\testuser\allowedtimes value and reversed the 
"ANY1100-1600" to "ANY1600-1100" and was denied access (local time is 1200).
Can anyone confirm that this isn't going to break anything and that the 
values are only validated on entry to the Access tab because the 
programmer didn't anticipate this kind of restriction?

-- 
Regards

Cameron Biggart
IT Manager
Yaffa Publishing
(02) 9281 2333
cameronb at yaffa.com dot au

Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 17:01:26 +1100
From: Cameron Biggart <cameronb at yaffa.com dot au>
Subject: Wrong time on server logs

I just noticed that our mail server logs SMTP and IMS are running about 
5 hours behind time. The Win2K server local time is correct and it's in 
the correct timezone according to the date and time dialog. Why would 
Worldmail be using a time 5 hours less than the actual server time, and 
where can I configure it?

-- 
Regards

Cameron Biggart
IT Manager
Yaffa Publishing
(02) 9281 2333
cameronb at yaffa.com dot au


From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Wrong time on server logs
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 07:54:45 -0000

From memory ... it write to the log files in GMT but the built-in log viewer
can translate the stored time to local time when viewing through its GUI.

(I could be wrong but that is how I remember it)

Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cameron Biggart [mailto:cameronb at yaffa.com dot au]
> Sent: 18 February 2004 06:01
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: Wrong time on server logs
>
>
> I just noticed that our mail server logs SMTP and IMS are running about
> 5 hours behind time. The Win2K server local time is correct and it's in
> the correct timezone according to the date and time dialog. Why would
> Worldmail be using a time 5 hours less than the actual server time, and
> where can I configure it?
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Cameron Biggart
> IT Manager
> Yaffa Publishing
> (02) 9281 2333
> cameronb at yaffa.com dot au
>


Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 16:20:46 -0500
From: Gina Senz <gsenz at aium dot org>
Subject: welcome message

Hi,

We are contemplating moving our listservs inhouse, since they aren't used 
excessively.  I'm setting up a distribution list, and I'm having trouble 
with our welcome message.  I've set the location path (a couple different 
ways:  d:\welcome message.txt and \\servername\d:\welcome message.txt), but 
I don't think that's the issue, since when I send the command:

INTRO listname

It returns:

Command to be processed: INTRO listname

.
Unknown or not implemented command

I've tried typing it several different ways, but no luck.  Has anyone had 
any experience with this?

Thanks in advance.

gina

.
Gina Senz
MIS Manager
American Institute of Ultrasound in Medicine
14750 Sweitzer Lane, Suite 100
Laurel, MD 20707-5906
www.aium.org
Ph:301-498-4100 Fax: 301-498-4450





Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 12:13:48 -0500
From: Gina Senz <gsenz at aium dot org>
Subject: problems with welcom message

Hi,

We are contemplating moving our listservs inhouse, since they aren't used 
excessively.  I'm setting up a distribution list, and I'm having trouble 
with our welcome message.  I've set the location path (a couple different 
ways:  d:\welcome message.txt and \\servername\d:\welcome message.txt), but 
I don't think that's the issue, since when I send the command:

INTRO listname

It returns:

Command to be processed: INTRO listname

.
Unknown or not implemented command




I've tried typing it several different ways, but no luck.  Has anyone had 
any experience with this?

Thanks in advance.

gina


Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 13:07:43 -0500
From: Gina Senz <gsenz at aium dot org>
Subject: problems with welcome message

Hi,

We are contemplating moving our listservs inhouse, since they aren't used 
excessively.  I'm setting up a distribution list, and I'm having trouble 
with our welcome message.  I've set the location path (a couple different 
ways:  d:\welcome message.txt and \\servername\d:\welcome message.txt), but 
I don't think that's the issue, since when I send the command:

INTRO listname

It returns:

Command to be processed: INTRO listname

.
Unknown or not implemented command




I've tried typing it several different ways, but no luck.  Has anyone had 
any experience with this?

Thanks in advance.

gina 


From: "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at initialplants dot com>
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 12:37:32 -0600
Subject: Unable to deliver local messages

For some reason worldmail stopped delivering messages to the local domain
mailboxes.  Sending and receiving outside the company hasn't been a
problem, even if I try sending a message to myself and cc to someone
outside.  I can't find the messages that were never delivered.

I'm guessing is a DNS issue.

Our config is as follows
We have a DNS server @ x.x.200.19
     config is as follows
    206.205.242.132 IN      NS      res1.ns.algx.net.
    192.5.6.34      IN      NS      ns1.dnsmanaged.com.

    y.y.y.y   IN      MX      5       mail15.messagelabs.com.
    z.z.z.z  IN      MX      20      mail16.messagelabs.com.


    localhost       IN      A       127.0.0.1
    rentokil   IN      A       x.x.200.250
    ...
 #smtp   IN      A       63.210.62.243
    smtp    IN      CNAME   rentokil

Messagelabs scans our mail (incoming/outgoing), they are a relay and it
was working fine in the past.

Worldmail runs on a NT machine
tcp settings:
 hostname: rentokil   domain: mis
 dns servers: x.x.200.19, 192.5.6.34, 206.205.242.132

Worldmail settings are:
   routing: via smart relay host xxx.messagelabs.com
   DNS: domain name server functions: prefer use of local name servers
   checked
                           Configured domain servers: x.x.200.19,
                           192.5.6.34, 206.205.242.132

   If I check the address for smtp.initialplants.com, and I get 'Name is
   invalid'



Thank you,

Elliott

==============================
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Network/Web Administrator
Initial Tropical Plants - USA
(847) 634 4250 ext. 99281  / Fax: (847) 634 6820
ebujan at initialplants dot com
http://www.initialplants.com

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From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Unable to deliver local messages
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 13:03:13 -0000

I think that you might get some more info about what it is doing if you
enabled detailed tracing on SMTP (Isotrace) .
Maybe it has incorrectly decided that there is a local filter to be called
.. the messages are piling up there.
I don't think that it uses DNS is the recipient domain is the same as one of
the local domains.

Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elliott Bujan [mailto:ebujan at initialplants dot com]
> Sent: 05 March 2004 18:38
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: Unable to deliver local messages
>
>
> For some reason worldmail stopped delivering messages to the local domain
> mailboxes.  Sending and receiving outside the company hasn't been a
> problem, even if I try sending a message to myself and cc to someone
> outside.  I can't find the messages that were never delivered.
>
> I'm guessing is a DNS issue.
>
> Our config is as follows
> We have a DNS server @ x.x.200.19
>      config is as follows
>     206.205.242.132 IN      NS      res1.ns.algx.net.
>     192.5.6.34      IN      NS      ns1.dnsmanaged.com.
>
>     y.y.y.y   IN      MX      5       mail15.messagelabs.com.
>     z.z.z.z  IN      MX      20      mail16.messagelabs.com.
>
>
>     localhost       IN      A       127.0.0.1
>     rentokil   IN      A       x.x.200.250
>     ...
>  #smtp   IN      A       63.210.62.243
>     smtp    IN      CNAME   rentokil
>
> Messagelabs scans our mail (incoming/outgoing), they are a relay and it
> was working fine in the past.
>
> Worldmail runs on a NT machine
> tcp settings:
>  hostname: rentokil   domain: mis
>  dns servers: x.x.200.19, 192.5.6.34, 206.205.242.132
>
> Worldmail settings are:
>    routing: via smart relay host xxx.messagelabs.com
>    DNS: domain name server functions: prefer use of local name servers
>    checked
>                            Configured domain servers: x.x.200.19,
>                            192.5.6.34, 206.205.242.132
>
>    If I check the address for smtp.initialplants.com, and I get 'Name is
>    invalid'
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Elliott
>
> ==============================
> Elliott Bujan
> Network/Web Administrator
> Initial Tropical Plants - USA
> (847) 634 4250 ext. 99281  / Fax: (847) 634 6820
> ebujan at initialplants dot com
> http://www.initialplants.com
>
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>
>
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From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: problems with welcom message
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 15:01:00 -0000

Does "Help" work as a command?
Perhaps the command is not geting through to the mail server list engine.
(is there something between your mail client and the Worlmail mail server?)

Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gina Senz [mailto:gsenz at aium dot org]
> Sent: 05 March 2004 17:14
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: problems with welcom message
>
>
> Hi,
>
> We are contemplating moving our listservs inhouse, since they aren't used
> excessively.  I'm setting up a distribution list, and I'm having trouble
> with our welcome message.  I've set the location path (a couple different
> ways:  d:\welcome message.txt and \\servername\d:\welcome
> message.txt), but
> I don't think that's the issue, since when I send the command:
>
> INTRO listname
>
> It returns:
>
> Command to be processed: INTRO listname
>
> .
> Unknown or not implemented command
>
>
>
>
> I've tried typing it several different ways, but no luck.  Has anyone had
> any experience with this?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> gina
>
>


From: "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at initialplants dot com>
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 10:01:09 -0600
Subject: RE: Unable to deliver local messages

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Thanks Paul,
this is what I get in Isotrace (sending messages using worldmail's smtp)

09:24:01.15: [273] SMTP: command received 'HELO user1'

09:24:01.15: [273] SMTP: command received 'MAIL FROM: 
<xxx at initialplants dot com>'

09:24:01.15: [273] SMTP: response sent '250 MAIL 
FROM:<xxx at initialplants dot com> OK'

09:24:01.15: [273] SMTP: command received 'RCPT TO: 
<user2 at initialplants dot com>'

09:24:01.15: [273] SMTP: add user 'user2' to local domain 
'initialplants.com' mailbox 
'path\MailBoxs\user2 at initialplants dot com' quota 18000

09:24:01.15: [273] SMTP: response sent '250 RCPT 
TO:<user2 at initialplants dot com> OK'

09:24:01.21: [273] SMTP: command received 'DATA'

09:24:01.21: [273] SMTP: response sent '354 Start mail input; 
end with <CRLF>.<CRLF>'

09:24:01.23: [273] SMTP: end of mail data

09:24:01.23: [273] SMTP: deliver - local user 
'user2 at initialplants dot com'

09:24:01.39: [273] SMTP: Recipient user2 at initialplants dot com: 
Delivered status 2.1.5 (destination mailbox address valid)

09:24:01.39: [273] SMTP: response sent '250 Mail accepted'
09:24:01.40: [273] SMTP: command received 'QUIT'
09:24:01.40: [273] SMTP: response sent '221 rentokil.mis QUIT'
09:24:01.40: [273] SMTP: server socket closing


What does "add user 'user2' to local domain" means?

Elliott Bujan

On 6 Mar 2004 at 13:03, Paul Webster wrote:

From:           	"Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
To:             	Subscribers of WorldMail <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
Subject:        	RE: Unable to deliver local messages
Date sent:      	Sat, 6 Mar 2004 13:03:13 -0000

I think that you might get some more info about what it is doing if
you enabled detailed tracing on SMTP (Isotrace) . Maybe it has
incorrectly decided that there is a local filter to be called .. the
messages are piling up there. I don't think that it uses DNS is the
recipient domain is the same as one of the local domains.

Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elliott Bujan [mailto:ebujan at initialplants dot com]
> Sent: 05 March 2004 18:38
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: Unable to deliver local messages
>
>
> For some reason worldmail stopped delivering messages to the local
> domain mailboxes.  Sending and receiving outside the company hasn't
> been a problem, even if I try sending a message to myself and cc to
> someone outside.  I can't find the messages that were never
> delivered.
>
> I'm guessing is a DNS issue.
>
> Our config is as follows
> We have a DNS server @ x.x.200.19
>      config is as follows
>     206.205.242.132 IN      NS      res1.ns.algx.net.
>     192.5.6.34      IN      NS      ns1.dnsmanaged.com.
>
>     y.y.y.y   IN      MX      5       mail15.messagelabs.com.
>     z.z.z.z  IN      MX      20      mail16.messagelabs.com.
>
>
>     localhost       IN      A       127.0.0.1
>     rentokil   IN      A       x.x.200.250
>     ...
>  #smtp   IN      A       63.210.62.243
>     smtp    IN      CNAME   rentokil
>
> Messagelabs scans our mail (incoming/outgoing), they are a relay and
> it was working fine in the past.
>
> Worldmail runs on a NT machine
> tcp settings:
>  hostname: rentokil   domain: mis
>  dns servers: x.x.200.19, 192.5.6.34, 206.205.242.132
>
> Worldmail settings are:
>    routing: via smart relay host xxx.messagelabs.com
>    DNS: domain name server functions: prefer use of local name
>    servers checked
>                            Configured domain servers: x.x.200.19,
>                            192.5.6.34, 206.205.242.132
>
>    If I check the address for smtp.initialplants.com, and I get
>    'Name is invalid'
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Elliott
>
> ==============================
> Elliott Bujan
> Network/Web Administrator
> Initial Tropical Plants - USA
> (847) 634 4250 ext. 99281  / Fax: (847) 634 6820
> ebujan at initialplants dot com
> http://www.initialplants.com
>
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>
>
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Elliott

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Initial Tropical Plants - USA
(847) 634 4250 ext. 99281  / Fax: (847) 634 6820
ebujan at initialplants dot com
http://www.initialplants.com

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<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">Thanks Paul,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">this is what I get in Isotrace (sending messages using worldmail's smtp)</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br/>
</div>
<div align="left"><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10pt">09:24:01.15: [273] SMTP: command received 'HELO user1'</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br/>
</div>
<div align="left"><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10pt">09:24:01.15: [273] SMTP: command received 'MAIL FROM: 
&lt;xxx at initialplants dot com&gt;'</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br/>
</div>
<div align="left"><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10pt">09:24:01.15: [273] SMTP: response sent '250 MAIL 
FROM:&lt;xxx at initialplants dot com&gt; OK'</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br/>
</div>
<div align="left"><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10pt">09:24:01.15: [273] SMTP: command received 'RCPT TO: 
&lt;user2 at initialplants dot com&gt;'</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br/>
</div>
<div align="left"><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10pt">09:24:01.15: [273] SMTP: add user 'user2' to local domain 
'initialplants.com' mailbox 
'path\MailBoxs\user2 at initialplants dot com' quota 18000</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br/>
</div>
<div align="left"><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10pt">09:24:01.15: [273] SMTP: response sent '250 RCPT 
TO:&lt;user2 at initialplants dot com&gt; OK'</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br/>
</div>
<div align="left"><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10pt">09:24:01.21: [273] SMTP: command received 'DATA'</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br/>
</div>
<div align="left"><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10pt">09:24:01.21: [273] SMTP: response sent '354 Start mail input; 
end with &lt;CRLF&gt;.&lt;CRLF&gt;'</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br/>
</div>
<div align="left"><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10pt">09:24:01.23: [273] SMTP: end of mail data</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br/>
</div>
<div align="left"><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10pt">09:24:01.23: [273] SMTP: deliver - local user 
'user2 at initialplants dot com'</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br/>
</div>
<div align="left"><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10pt">09:24:01.39: [273] SMTP: Recipient user2 at initialplants dot com: 
Delivered status 2.1.5 (destination mailbox address valid)</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br/>
</div>
<div align="left"><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10pt">09:24:01.39: [273] SMTP: response sent '250 Mail accepted'</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10pt">09:24:01.40: [273] SMTP: command received 'QUIT'</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10pt">09:24:01.40: [273] SMTP: response sent '221 rentokil.mis QUIT'</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10pt">09:24:01.40: [273] SMTP: server socket closing</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br/>
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<div align="left"><br/>
</div>
<div align="left"><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10pt">What does &quot;add user 'user2' to local domain&quot; means?</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br/>
</div>
<div align="left"><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10pt">Elliott Bujan</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br/></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">On 6 Mar 2004 at 13:03, Paul Webster wrote:</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br/>
</div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">From:&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; &#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&
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face="Arial" color="#000080"><span style="font-size:10pt"><b>RE: Unable to deliver local messages</b></span></font></div>
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face="Arial" color="#000080"><span style="font-size:10pt">Sat, 6 Mar 2004 13:03:13 -0000</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br/>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">I think that you might get some more info about what it is doing if</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">you enabled detailed tracing on SMTP (Isotrace) . Maybe it has</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">incorrectly decided that there is a local filter to be called .. the</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">messages are piling up there. I don't think that it uses DNS is the</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">recipient domain is the same as one of the local domains.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br/>
</div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">Paul</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; -----Original Message-----</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; From: Elliott Bujan [mailto:ebujan at initialplants dot com]</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; Sent: 05 March 2004 18:38</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; To: Subscribers of WorldMail</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; Subject: Unable to deliver local messages</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; For some reason worldmail stopped delivering messages to the local</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; domain mailboxes.&#160; Sending and receiving outside the company hasn't</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; been a problem, even if I try sending a message to myself and cc to</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; someone outside.&#160; I can't find the messages that were never</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; delivered.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; I'm guessing is a DNS issue.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; Our config is as follows</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; We have a DNS server @ x.x.200.19</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; config is as follows</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; 206.205.242.132 IN&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; NS&#160;&#160;&#160;&
res1.ns.algx.net.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; 192.5.6.34&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; IN&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&am
NS&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; ns1.dnsmanaged.com.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; y.y.y.y&#160;&#160; IN&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; MX&#160;&#160;&am
5&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; mail15.messagelabs.com.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; z.z.z.z&#160; IN&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; MX&#160;&#160;&#160;&am
20&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; mail16.messagelabs.com.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; localhost&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; IN&#160;&#160;&#160;&
A&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; 127.0.0.1</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; rentokil&#160;&#160; IN&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; A&#160;&#160;&am
x.x.200.250</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; ...</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;&#160; #smtp&#160;&#160; IN&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; A&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#
63.210.62.243</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; smtp&#160;&#160;&#160; IN&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; CNAME&#160;&am
rentokil</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; Messagelabs scans our mail (incoming/outgoing), they are a relay and</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; it was working fine in the past.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; Worldmail runs on a NT machine</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; tcp settings:</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;&#160; hostname: rentokil&#160;&#160; domain: mis</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;&#160; dns servers: x.x.200.19, 192.5.6.34, 206.205.242.132</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; Worldmail settings are:</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160; routing: via smart relay host xxx.messagelabs.com</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160; DNS: domain name server functions: prefer use of local name</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160; servers checked</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#1
Configured domain servers: x.x.200.19,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#1
192.5.6.34, 206.205.242.132</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160; If I check the address for smtp.initialplants.com, and I get</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160; 'Name is invalid'</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; Thank you,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; Elliott</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; ===============================</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; Elliott Bujan</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; Network/Web Administrator</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; Initial Tropical Plants - USA</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; (847) 634 4250 ext. 99281&#160; / Fax: (847) 634 6820</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; ebujan at initialplants dot com</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; http://www.initialplants.com</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; ===============================</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; ____________________________________________________________________</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; System. For more information please visit</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; http://www.messagelabs.com/email</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; ____________________________________________________________________</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt; __</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000"><span style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br/>
</div>
<div align="left"><br/>
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<div align="left"><br/>
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<div align="left"><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10pt">Thank you,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><br/>
</div>
<div align="left"><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10pt">Elliott</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10pt">===============================</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10pt">Elliott Bujan</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10pt">Network/Web Administrator</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10pt">Initial Tropical Plants - USA</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10pt">(847) 634 4250 ext. 99281&#160; / Fax: (847) 634 6820</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10pt">ebujan at initialplants dot com</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10pt">http://www.initialplants.com</span></font></div>
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From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Unable to deliver local messages
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 21:04:35 -0000

Strange.
I don't think that the "add user" is an issue - I think that this is just
adding a user address/account to a local cache so that subsequent lookups
will be faster (if more mail comes to the same recipient).
The problem is at the "(destination mailbox address valid)"

Does this mailbox exist?  Is there any sort of filter or other reason
visible why this account is not liked (e.g. is it disabled, does the
destination directory exist)

Check 'path\MailBoxs\user2 at initialplants dot com' to see if there is such a
thing - compare with delivery to a mailbox that works fine.

Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Elliott Bujan [mailto:ebujan at initialplants dot com]
Sent: 08 March 2004 16:01
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: RE: Unable to deliver local messages


Thanks Paul,
this is what I get in Isotrace (sending messages using worldmail's smtp)


09:24:01.15: [273] SMTP: command received 'HELO user1'


09:24:01.15: [273] SMTP: command received 'MAIL FROM:
<xxx at initialplants dot com>'


09:24:01.15: [273] SMTP: response sent '250 MAIL
FROM:<xxx at initialplants dot com> OK'


09:24:01.15: [273] SMTP: command received 'RCPT TO:
<user2 at initialplants dot com>'


09:24:01.15: [273] SMTP: add user 'user2' to local domain
'initialplants.com' mailbox 'path\MailBoxs\user2 at initialplants dot com' quota
18000


09:24:01.15: [273] SMTP: response sent '250 RCPT
TO:<user2 at initialplants dot com> OK'


09:24:01.21: [273] SMTP: command received 'DATA'


09:24:01.21: [273] SMTP: response sent '354 Start mail input; end with
<CRLF>.<CRLF>'


09:24:01.23: [273] SMTP: end of mail data


09:24:01.23: [273] SMTP: deliver - local user 'user2 at initialplants dot com'


09:24:01.39: [273] SMTP: Recipient user2 at initialplants dot com: Delivered status
2.1.5 (destination mailbox address valid)


09:24:01.39: [273] SMTP: response sent '250 Mail accepted'
09:24:01.40: [273] SMTP: command received 'QUIT'
09:24:01.40: [273] SMTP: response sent '221 rentokil.mis QUIT'
09:24:01.40: [273] SMTP: server socket closing




What does "add user 'user2' to local domain" means?


Elliott Bujan


On 6 Mar 2004 at 13:03, Paul Webster wrote:


From:                         "Paul Webster"
<paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
To:                             Subscribers of WorldMail
<worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
Subject:                    RE: Unable to deliver local messages
Date sent:                  Sat, 6 Mar 2004 13:03:13 -0000


I think that you might get some more info about what it is doing if
you enabled detailed tracing on SMTP (Isotrace) . Maybe it has
incorrectly decided that there is a local filter to be called .. the
messages are piling up there. I don't think that it uses DNS is the
recipient domain is the same as one of the local domains.


Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elliott Bujan [mailto:ebujan at initialplants dot com]
> Sent: 05 March 2004 18:38
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: Unable to deliver local messages
>
>
> For some reason worldmail stopped delivering messages to the local
> domain mailboxes.  Sending and receiving outside the company hasn't
> been a problem, even if I try sending a message to myself and cc to
> someone outside.  I can't find the messages that were never
> delivered.
>
> I'm guessing is a DNS issue.
>
> Our config is as follows
> We have a DNS server @ x.x.200.19
>      config is as follows
>     206.205.242.132 IN      NS      res1.ns.algx.net.
>     192.5.6.34      IN      NS      ns1.dnsmanaged.com.
>
>     y.y.y.y   IN      MX      5       mail15.messagelabs.com.
>     z.z.z.z  IN      MX      20      mail16.messagelabs.com.
>
>
>     localhost       IN      A       127.0.0.1
>     rentokil   IN      A       x.x.200.250
>     ...
>  #smtp   IN      A       63.210.62.243
>     smtp    IN      CNAME   rentokil
>
> Messagelabs scans our mail (incoming/outgoing), they are a relay and
> it was working fine in the past.
>
> Worldmail runs on a NT machine
> tcp settings:
>  hostname: rentokil   domain: mis
>  dns servers: x.x.200.19, 192.5.6.34, 206.205.242.132
>
> Worldmail settings are:
>    routing: via smart relay host xxx.messagelabs.com
>    DNS: domain name server functions: prefer use of local name
>    servers checked
>                            Configured domain servers: x.x.200.19,
>                            192.5.6.34, 206.205.242.132
>
>    If I check the address for smtp.initialplants.com, and I get
>    'Name is invalid'
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Elliott
>
> ==============================
> Elliott Bujan
> Network/Web Administrator
> Initial Tropical Plants - USA
> (847) 634 4250 ext. 99281  / Fax: (847) 634 6820
> ebujan at initialplants dot com
> http://www.initialplants.com
>
> ==============================
>
>
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==============================
Elliott Bujan
Network/Web Administrator
Initial Tropical Plants - USA
(847) 634 4250 ext. 99281  / Fax: (847) 634 6820
ebujan at initialplants dot com
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From: "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at initialplants dot com>
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 07:18:44 -0600
Subject: RE: Unable to deliver local messages

It is strange.  Everything exists, the mailbox, user2, the folder, etc.  There are no filter 
that I know of.

Another piece of the puzzle we are working on is our relay server: Messagelabs.  let's 
take scenario 1: my smtp is Messagelabs
  If I send a message to user1 at mydomain dot com, user1 won't get the message 
(messagelabs is still looking into their logs for this)
  If I send a message to paul at yourdomain dot com, you will get it, strange, hum?

scenario 2: our worldmail is our smtp which relays to MessageLabs for non local 
messages
 If I send a message to user1 at mydomain dot com, user1 WILL get the message (I can 
see it in Isotrace)
  If I send a message to paul at yourdomain dot com, you will get it

In any scenario, we receive all inbound messages, I can telnet to their smtp server.

I hope Messagelabs has the answer.  Feel free to leave this thread alone; My initial 
thoughts were that there was something to do with worldmail but I'll wait to hear from 
MessageLabs.  Personally, I don't think it's our server but I had to go to every single 
corner in our system to troubleshoot it: I'm running out of corners!

Thanks for your input.

Elliott

On 9 Mar 2004 at 21:04, Paul Webster wrote:

From:           	"Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
To:             	Subscribers of WorldMail <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
Subject:        	RE: Unable to deliver local messages
Date sent:      	Tue, 9 Mar 2004 21:04:35 -0000

Strange.
I don't think that the "add user" is an issue - I think that this is
just adding a user address/account to a local cache so that subsequent
lookups will be faster (if more mail comes to the same recipient). The
problem is at the "(destination mailbox address valid)"

Does this mailbox exist?  Is there any sort of filter or other reason
visible why this account is not liked (e.g. is it disabled, does the
destination directory exist)

Check 'path\MailBoxs\user2 at initialplants dot com' to see if there is such
a thing - compare with delivery to a mailbox that works fine.

Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Elliott Bujan [mailto:ebujan at initialplants dot com]
Sent: 08 March 2004 16:01
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: RE: Unable to deliver local messages


Thanks Paul,
this is what I get in Isotrace (sending messages using worldmail's
smtp)


09:24:01.15: [273] SMTP: command received 'HELO user1'


09:24:01.15: [273] SMTP: command received 'MAIL FROM:
<xxx at initialplants dot com>'


09:24:01.15: [273] SMTP: response sent '250 MAIL
FROM:<xxx at initialplants dot com> OK'


09:24:01.15: [273] SMTP: command received 'RCPT TO:
<user2 at initialplants dot com>'


09:24:01.15: [273] SMTP: add user 'user2' to local domain
'initialplants.com' mailbox 'path\MailBoxs\user2 at initialplants dot com'
quota 18000


09:24:01.15: [273] SMTP: response sent '250 RCPT
TO:<user2 at initialplants dot com> OK'


09:24:01.21: [273] SMTP: command received 'DATA'


09:24:01.21: [273] SMTP: response sent '354 Start mail input; end with
<CRLF>.<CRLF>'


09:24:01.23: [273] SMTP: end of mail data


09:24:01.23: [273] SMTP: deliver - local user
'user2 at initialplants dot com'


09:24:01.39: [273] SMTP: Recipient user2 at initialplants dot com: Delivered
status 2.1.5 (destination mailbox address valid)


09:24:01.39: [273] SMTP: response sent '250 Mail accepted'
09:24:01.40: [273] SMTP: command received 'QUIT'
09:24:01.40: [273] SMTP: response sent '221 rentokil.mis QUIT'
09:24:01.40: [273] SMTP: server socket closing




What does "add user 'user2' to local domain" means?


Elliott Bujan


On 6 Mar 2004 at 13:03, Paul Webster wrote:


From:                         "Paul Webster"
<paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
To:                             Subscribers of WorldMail
<worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
Subject:                    RE: Unable to deliver local messages
Date sent:                  Sat, 6 Mar 2004 13:03:13 -0000


I think that you might get some more info about what it is doing if
you enabled detailed tracing on SMTP (Isotrace) . Maybe it has
incorrectly decided that there is a local filter to be called .. the
messages are piling up there. I don't think that it uses DNS is the
recipient domain is the same as one of the local domains.


Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elliott Bujan [mailto:ebujan at initialplants dot com]
> Sent: 05 March 2004 18:38
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: Unable to deliver local messages
>
>
> For some reason worldmail stopped delivering messages to the local
> domain mailboxes.  Sending and receiving outside the company hasn't
> been a problem, even if I try sending a message to myself and cc to
> someone outside.  I can't find the messages that were never
> delivered.
>
> I'm guessing is a DNS issue.
>
> Our config is as follows
> We have a DNS server @ x.x.200.19
>      config is as follows
>     206.205.242.132 IN      NS      res1.ns.algx.net.
>     192.5.6.34      IN      NS      ns1.dnsmanaged.com.
>
>     y.y.y.y   IN      MX      5       mail15.messagelabs.com.
>     z.z.z.z  IN      MX      20      mail16.messagelabs.com.
>
>
>     localhost       IN      A       127.0.0.1
>     rentokil   IN      A       x.x.200.250
>     ...
>  #smtp   IN      A       63.210.62.243
>     smtp    IN      CNAME   rentokil
>
> Messagelabs scans our mail (incoming/outgoing), they are a relay and
> it was working fine in the past.
>
> Worldmail runs on a NT machine
> tcp settings:
>  hostname: rentokil   domain: mis
>  dns servers: x.x.200.19, 192.5.6.34, 206.205.242.132
>
> Worldmail settings are:
>    routing: via smart relay host xxx.messagelabs.com
>    DNS: domain name server functions: prefer use of local name
>    servers checked
>                            Configured domain servers: x.x.200.19,
>                            192.5.6.34, 206.205.242.132
>
>    If I check the address for smtp.initialplants.com, and I get
>    'Name is invalid'
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Elliott
>
> ==============================
> Elliott Bujan
> Network/Web Administrator
> Initial Tropical Plants - USA
> (847) 634 4250 ext. 99281  / Fax: (847) 634 6820
> ebujan at initialplants dot com
> http://www.initialplants.com
>
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From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Unable to deliver local messages
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 08:45:13 -0000

Does Worldmail have message archiving ability (I can't remember).
If it is available then you can tell it to save the received mesage into a
file - then you could compare a working file with a non-working one ...
concentrating specifically on the header fields.

Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elliott Bujan [mailto:ebujan at initialplants dot com]
> Sent: 10 March 2004 13:19
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: RE: Unable to deliver local messages
>
>
> It is strange.  Everything exists, the mailbox, user2, the
> folder, etc.  There are no filter
> that I know of.
>
> Another piece of the puzzle we are working on is our relay
> server: Messagelabs.  let's
> take scenario 1: my smtp is Messagelabs
>   If I send a message to user1 at mydomain dot com, user1 won't get the message
> (messagelabs is still looking into their logs for this)
>   If I send a message to paul at yourdomain dot com, you will get it,
> strange, hum?
>
> scenario 2: our worldmail is our smtp which relays to MessageLabs
> for non local
> messages
>  If I send a message to user1 at mydomain dot com, user1 WILL get the
> message (I can
> see it in Isotrace)
>   If I send a message to paul at yourdomain dot com, you will get it
>
> In any scenario, we receive all inbound messages, I can telnet to
> their smtp server.
>
> I hope Messagelabs has the answer.  Feel free to leave this
> thread alone; My initial
> thoughts were that there was something to do with worldmail but
> I'll wait to hear from
> MessageLabs.  Personally, I don't think it's our server but I had
> to go to every single
> corner in our system to troubleshoot it: I'm running out of corners!
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
> Elliott
>
> On 9 Mar 2004 at 21:04, Paul Webster wrote:
>
> From:           	"Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
> To:             	Subscribers of WorldMail
> <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
> Subject:        	RE: Unable to deliver local messages
> Date sent:      	Tue, 9 Mar 2004 21:04:35 -0000
>
> Strange.
> I don't think that the "add user" is an issue - I think that this is
> just adding a user address/account to a local cache so that subsequent
> lookups will be faster (if more mail comes to the same recipient). The
> problem is at the "(destination mailbox address valid)"
>
> Does this mailbox exist?  Is there any sort of filter or other reason
> visible why this account is not liked (e.g. is it disabled, does the
> destination directory exist)
>
> Check 'path\MailBoxs\user2 at initialplants dot com' to see if there is such
> a thing - compare with delivery to a mailbox that works fine.
>
> Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elliott Bujan [mailto:ebujan at initialplants dot com]
> Sent: 08 March 2004 16:01
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: RE: Unable to deliver local messages
>
>
> Thanks Paul,
> this is what I get in Isotrace (sending messages using worldmail's
> smtp)
>
>
> 09:24:01.15: [273] SMTP: command received 'HELO user1'
>
>
> 09:24:01.15: [273] SMTP: command received 'MAIL FROM:
> <xxx at initialplants dot com>'
>
>
> 09:24:01.15: [273] SMTP: response sent '250 MAIL
> FROM:<xxx at initialplants dot com> OK'
>
>
> 09:24:01.15: [273] SMTP: command received 'RCPT TO:
> <user2 at initialplants dot com>'
>
>
> 09:24:01.15: [273] SMTP: add user 'user2' to local domain
> 'initialplants.com' mailbox 'path\MailBoxs\user2 at initialplants dot com'
> quota 18000
>
>
> 09:24:01.15: [273] SMTP: response sent '250 RCPT
> TO:<user2 at initialplants dot com> OK'
>
>
> 09:24:01.21: [273] SMTP: command received 'DATA'
>
>
> 09:24:01.21: [273] SMTP: response sent '354 Start mail input; end with
> <CRLF>.<CRLF>'
>
>
> 09:24:01.23: [273] SMTP: end of mail data
>
>
> 09:24:01.23: [273] SMTP: deliver - local user
> 'user2 at initialplants dot com'
>
>
> 09:24:01.39: [273] SMTP: Recipient user2 at initialplants dot com: Delivered
> status 2.1.5 (destination mailbox address valid)
>
>
> 09:24:01.39: [273] SMTP: response sent '250 Mail accepted'
> 09:24:01.40: [273] SMTP: command received 'QUIT'
> 09:24:01.40: [273] SMTP: response sent '221 rentokil.mis QUIT'
> 09:24:01.40: [273] SMTP: server socket closing
>
>
>
>
> What does "add user 'user2' to local domain" means?
>
>
> Elliott Bujan
>
>
> On 6 Mar 2004 at 13:03, Paul Webster wrote:
>
>
> From:                         "Paul Webster"
> <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
> To:                             Subscribers of WorldMail
> <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
> Subject:                    RE: Unable to deliver local messages
> Date sent:                  Sat, 6 Mar 2004 13:03:13 -0000
>
>
> I think that you might get some more info about what it is doing if
> you enabled detailed tracing on SMTP (Isotrace) . Maybe it has
> incorrectly decided that there is a local filter to be called .. the
> messages are piling up there. I don't think that it uses DNS is the
> recipient domain is the same as one of the local domains.
>
>
> Paul
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Elliott Bujan [mailto:ebujan at initialplants dot com]
> > Sent: 05 March 2004 18:38
> > To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> > Subject: Unable to deliver local messages
> >
> >
> > For some reason worldmail stopped delivering messages to the local
> > domain mailboxes.  Sending and receiving outside the company hasn't
> > been a problem, even if I try sending a message to myself and cc to
> > someone outside.  I can't find the messages that were never
> > delivered.
> >
> > I'm guessing is a DNS issue.
> >
> > Our config is as follows
> > We have a DNS server @ x.x.200.19
> >      config is as follows
> >     206.205.242.132 IN      NS      res1.ns.algx.net.
> >     192.5.6.34      IN      NS      ns1.dnsmanaged.com.
> >
> >     y.y.y.y   IN      MX      5       mail15.messagelabs.com.
> >     z.z.z.z  IN      MX      20      mail16.messagelabs.com.
> >
> >
> >     localhost       IN      A       127.0.0.1
> >     rentokil   IN      A       x.x.200.250
> >     ...
> >  #smtp   IN      A       63.210.62.243
> >     smtp    IN      CNAME   rentokil
> >
> > Messagelabs scans our mail (incoming/outgoing), they are a relay and
> > it was working fine in the past.
> >
> > Worldmail runs on a NT machine
> > tcp settings:
> >  hostname: rentokil   domain: mis
> >  dns servers: x.x.200.19, 192.5.6.34, 206.205.242.132
> >
> > Worldmail settings are:
> >    routing: via smart relay host xxx.messagelabs.com
> >    DNS: domain name server functions: prefer use of local name
> >    servers checked
> >                            Configured domain servers: x.x.200.19,
> >                            192.5.6.34, 206.205.242.132
> >
> >    If I check the address for smtp.initialplants.com, and I get
> >    'Name is invalid'
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Elliott
> >
> > ==============================
> > Elliott Bujan
> > Network/Web Administrator
> > Initial Tropical Plants - USA
> > (847) 634 4250 ext. 99281  / Fax: (847) 634 6820
> > ebujan at initialplants dot com
> > http://www.initialplants.com
> >
> > ==============================
> >
> >
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>
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> Network/Web Administrator
> Initial Tropical Plants - USA
> (847) 634 4250 ext. 99281  / Fax: (847) 634 6820
> ebujan at initialplants dot com
> http://www.initialplants.com
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>
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> Network/Web Administrator
> Initial Tropical Plants - USA
> (847) 634 4250 ext. 99281  / Fax: (847) 634 6820
> ebujan at initialplants dot com
> http://www.initialplants.com
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From: tim at thefaxcompany dot com
Subject: hi
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 00:03:19 +0200

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something is going wrong!

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From: acyr at admin.seu dot edu
Subject: hello
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 20:26:43 +0200

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something is going wrong

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From: ian at impeccable dot org dot uk
Subject: stolen
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 06:35:12 +0200

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ok

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From: paul at spidersweb dot freeserve dot co dot uk
Subject: something for you
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 17:09:18 +0200

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reply

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From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb dot freeserve dot co dot uk>
Subject: Looks like someone is sending spoof mail as me ... RE: something for you
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 16:40:50 +0100

Ignore (do not even open) the message with subject "something for you".

It looks like some sort of fake virus - but I assure you that it did not
come from me.

Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: paul@spidersweb.freeserve.co.uk
> [mailto:paul@spidersweb.freeserve.co.uk]
> Sent: 07 June 2004 16:09
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: something for you
>
>
> reply
>


From: jhughes at sportsoftgolf dot com
Subject: warning
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 17:48:14 +0200

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you are a bad writer

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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 11:38:22 -0500
From: Dirk Norman <dirk at torcom dot com>
Subject: fragmented messages

Hello everyone, hopefully I am posting this correctly, if not please 
forgive me. Here's my question though: I constantly get partial messages on 
our worldmail server which, when you look at them, have only part of a 
message ID. They show as real messages in the user's mailbox, but when the 
person tries to download their mail from the server it throws an error 
stating it can't read the message, which I assume is from only having a 
partial ID. Has anyone else seen anything like this, and if so how did you 
fix it?

Thanks



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