The qpopper list archive ending on 12 Apr 1999
Topics covered in this issue include:
1.
"Webmaster" <webmaster at daxis dot nl>
Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:29:55 +0200
2. Re: your mail
System Administrator <admin at intergrafix dot net>
Thu, 1 Apr 1999 09:01:00 -0500 (EST)
3. listen
vsimoes <vsimoes at fleximedia dot pt>
Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:30:46 +0000
4. virtual pop?
zili zhang <zilizhang at netscape dot net>
4 Apr 99 13:23:58 CST
5. Re: listen
Takahiro Kambe <taca at sky.yamashina.kyoto dot jp>
Sun, 04 Apr 1999 15:21:57 +0900
6. RE: virtual pop?
"Evan Erwin" <obiwan at frag dot com>
Sun, 4 Apr 1999 10:39:35 -0400
7. Re: listen
Williams Martinez <willie at uncoma.edu dot ar>
Sun, 04 Apr 1999 16:18:24
8. Re: virtual pop?
Gerhard Pfeiffer <palmcron.gcp at gmx dot de>
Sun, 04 Apr 1999 23:12:00 +0200
9. POP & APOP on different ports
"Alex Woo" <awoo at mail.arc.nasa dot gov>
Sun, 4 Apr 1999 17:27:51 -0700
10. RE: POP & APOP on different ports
"Evan Erwin" <obiwan at frag dot com>
Sun, 4 Apr 1999 21:29:33 -0400
11. Re: POP & APOP on different ports
"Evan Erwin" <obiwan at frag dot com>
Sun, 4 Apr 1999 21:31:10 -0400
12. unsubscribe
"Daryl C" <daryl at ledanet.com dot au>
Mon, 5 Apr 1999 21:53:32 +1000
13. Re: POP & APOP on different ports
Matthew Ritenburg <matthew.ritenburg at opensite dot com>
Mon, 05 Apr 1999 09:03:02 -0400
14. Re: your mail
Rodrigo Luiz Anami <rodrigoa at bestway.com dot br>
Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:06:43 -0300 (EST)
15. Quota Exceeded Message
Susan Lowenberg <susan at calarts dot edu>
Tue, 06 Apr 1999 10:32:31 -0700
16. Re: Quota Exceeded Message
Tomasz Orzechowski <tmo at apk dot net>
Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:51:19 -0400
17. Re: Quota Exceeded Message
Michael Gerdts <gerdts at cae.wisc dot edu>
Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:01:56 -0500
18. Re: [Re: virtual pop?]
zili zhang <zilizhang at netscape dot net>
7 Apr 99 12:12:01 CST
19. HASH_SPOOL=1
Dietmar Stommel <dstommel at netcologne dot de>
Wed, 07 Apr 1999 10:57:13 +0200
20. Re: Quota Exceeded Message
Walcir Fontanini-ADM- <walcir at densis.fee.unicamp dot br>
Wed, 07 Apr 1999 15:08:51 -0300
21. Can't access the BULL file?
Vicki Brown <vlb at deltagen dot com>
Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:07:26 -0700
22. Re: Quota Exceeded Message
cwlin at mozart.seed.net dot tw
Thu, 08 Apr 1999 09:40:21 +0800
23. Re: Quota Exceeded Message
Byron Jones <byron at vianet.net dot au>
Thu, 08 Apr 1999 09:43:45 +0800
24. About qpopper 2.53 server mode
cwlin at mozart.seed.net dot tw
Thu, 08 Apr 1999 09:53:26 +0800
25. Re: Can't access the BULL file?
cwlin at mozart.seed.net dot tw
Thu, 08 Apr 1999 09:43:19 +0800
26. Cannot create .popbull and popauth not working...
"Evan Erwin" <obiwan at frag dot com>
Wed, 7 Apr 1999 22:11:30 -0400
27. Cannot create .popbull and popauth not working...
"Evan Erwin" <obiwan at frag dot com>
Wed, 7 Apr 1999 22:12:00 -0400
28. Re: Can't access the BULL file?
Vicki Brown <vlb at deltagen dot com>
Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:45:12 -0700
29. netscape error
Guido Dolci <dolci at sfera dot net>
Thu, 08 Apr 1999 21:19:31 +0200
30. Re: Can't access the BULL file?
cwlin at mozart.seed.net dot tw
Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:33:35 +0800
31. Why is Eudora asking for my password?
Vicki Brown <vlb at cfcl dot com>
Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:20:42 -0700
32. Re: Why is Eudora asking for my password?
Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:38:58 +1200 (NZST)
33. Re: Why is Eudora asking for my password?
Roy Kidder <rkidder at ocom dot com>
Fri, 09 Apr 1999 09:27:20 -0400
34. Installation problem of qp3
Jieh-Zhang Chen <b3401084 at med.mc.ntu.edu dot tw>
Fri, 09 Apr 1999 22:39:09 +0800
35. Questions on reversed host name lookup
Lufan Chen <lchen at Rational dot Com>
Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:38:09 -0700 (PDT)
36. About maillock
cwlin at mozart.seed.net dot tw
Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:01:29 +0800
37.
Damien Hobona <DHobona at gov dot bw>
Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:27:02 +0200
38. Re: Questions on reversed host name lookup
Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Sat, 10 Apr 1999 16:20:30 -0700
39. Re: Why is Eudora asking for my password?
Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Sat, 10 Apr 1999 16:30:34 -0700
40. Lost or looks like lost mail on 3.x
Tim Patterson <tim at harborside dot com>
Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:14:26 -0700 (PDT)
41. help
"Mike T." <arakel at dig-net dot net>
Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:08:00 -0700 (PDT)
42. Re: help
RTS <rts at rdr dot net>
Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:34:52 -0500
43. Re: help
"Mike T." <arakel at dig-net dot net>
Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:52:41 -0700 (PDT)
44. RE: Lost or looks like lost mail on 3.x
"Brunette, Jason" <jbrunette at excel dot net>
Sun, 11 Apr 1999 01:25:59 -0500
45. Re: Why is Eudora asking for my password?
Vicki Brown <vlb at cfcl dot com>
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:51:48 -0700
46. Bulletin Board Load
Kevin <kdh at midwest dot net>
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:36:24 -0500
47. [Fwd: [Fwd: Errors in envelope]]
Barry Treahy <treahy at mmaz dot com>
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:41:53 -0700
48. Re: [Fwd: [Fwd: Errors in envelope]]
Byron Jones <byron at vianet.net dot au>
Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:04:55 +0800
49.
"Chad Sorrell" <gabe at quasarhosting dot com>
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:00:53 -0500
50. RE: Bulletin Board Load
"Evan Erwin" <obiwan at frag dot com>
Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:56:27 -0400
From: "Webmaster" <webmaster at daxis dot nl>
Subject:
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:29:55 +0200
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Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 09:01:00 -0500 (EST)
From: System Administrator <admin at intergrafix dot net>
Subject: Re: your mail
On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Webmaster wrote:
> qpopper is case sensitive when checking usernames, in.pop3d isn't
>
> can the case sensetivety be turned off ?
in pop_user.c right before the line that says "#ifdef KERBEROS" put a line
that says:
strtolower(p->pop_parm[1]);
then at the very end of the file, put this code:
/*** convert string to lower case ***/
strtolower(str)
char *str;
{
while(*str)
{
*str=tolower(*str);
str++;
}
}
recompile.
-Cygnus
.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
Anthony J. Biacco Network Administrator/Engineer
admin at intergrafix dot net Intergrafix Internet Services
"Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today"
http://cygnus.ncohafmuta.com http://www.intergrafix.net
.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
>
> dear regards M. de Keyzer
>
>
>
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:30:46 +0000
From: vsimoes <vsimoes at fleximedia dot pt>
Subject: listen
Can anyone tell me how do i make qpoppe listen in only one
specific interface, not on all avaible interfaces of the machine.
my netstat reports someting like this to the pop3 server :
tcp 0 0 *.pop3 *.*
LISTEN
and i want someting like this :
tcp 0 0 mail.pop3 *.*
LISTEN
can anyone help me?
thanks in advance,
Regards,
Vitor Simoes
Date: 4 Apr 99 13:23:58 CST
From: zili zhang <zilizhang at netscape dot net>
Subject: virtual pop?
HI, everyone:
this is my first mail to the list. I am wondering if qpoper can do virtua=
l
pop. I know sendmail 8.8.x and later can accept multiple hosts' email and=
forward to unique local account, but can qpopper identify that is a virtu=
al
pop and fetch messages correctly to the actual account? Thank you very mu=
ch
for help.
virtually,
zili
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Subject: Re: listen
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 15:21:57 +0900
From: Takahiro Kambe <taca at sky.yamashina.kyoto dot jp>
In message <812069822894482661187 at lists.pensive dot org>
on Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:30:46 +0000,
vsimoes <vsimoes at fleximedia dot pt> wrote:
> Can anyone tell me how do i make qpoppe listen in only one
> specific interface, not on all avaible interfaces of the machine.
It depens on inetd not qpopper, unless you hack to run qpopper as
standalone daemon.
Inetd(8)'s functionality depends on your operating system, and xinetd(8)
could be used for your requirement.
Cheers.
--
Takahiro Kambe <taca at sky.yamashina.kyoto dot jp>
From: "Evan Erwin" <obiwan at frag dot com>
Subject: RE: virtual pop?
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 10:39:35 -0400
Seems to me that qpopper wouldn't have to worry about virtual anything.
Since sendmail is doing all the accepting and routing, qpopper just lets the
person check their mail, no matter what is in the acct. SMTP should take
care of any virtual addresses. That's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
Evan
-----Original Message-----
From: zili zhang [mailto:zilizhang at netscape dot net]
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 1999 3:24 PM
To: Subscribers of Qpopper
Subject: virtual pop?
HI, everyone:
this is my first mail to the list. I am wondering if qpoper can do virtual
pop. I know sendmail 8.8.x and later can accept multiple hosts' email and
forward to unique local account, but can qpopper identify that is a virtual
pop and fetch messages correctly to the actual account? Thank you very much
for help.
virtually,
zili
____________________________________________________________________
Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at
http://webmail.netscape.com.
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 16:18:24
From: Williams Martinez <willie at uncoma.edu dot ar>
Subject: Re: listen
Hi
At 14.30 1/4/99 +0000, vsimoes wrote:
> Can anyone tell me how do i make qpoppe listen in only one
>specific interface, not on all avaible interfaces of the machine.
>
mmmmm, seems to be a firewall duty to me.
>my netstat reports someting like this to the pop3 server :
>
>tcp 0 0 *.pop3 *.*
>LISTEN
>
>and i want someting like this :
>
>tcp 0 0 mail.pop3 *.*
>LISTEN
>
>
>can anyone help me?
>
>thanks in advance,
>Regards,
> Vitor Simoes
>
>
>
>
>
>
---
Williams Martinez
willie at uncoma.edu dot ar
Tecnologías de Información
Universidad Nacional del Comahue
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 23:12:00 +0200
From: Gerhard Pfeiffer <palmcron.gcp at gmx dot de>
Subject: Re: virtual pop?
Evan Erwin wrote:
> Seems to me that qpopper wouldn't have to worry about virtual anything.
> Since sendmail is doing all the accepting and routing, qpopper just lets the
> person check their mail, no matter what is in the acct. SMTP should take
> care of any virtual addresses. That's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
Well, what he wants is that he only has one account on his machine,
where sendmail stores all mail going to this virtual domain. But when a
user logs on and identifies with user1 at virt-domain dot com it should only
receive the mail, that is for user1, and not the one for user2.
I think the only way to do this is to declare all E-Mail-Adresses in the
virtuser-db of Sendmail.
zili´s virtusertable looks like this I suppose:
@virt-dom.com virtacc
What to do is
user1 at virt-dom dot com usr1virt
user2 at virt-dom dot com usr2virt
and so on.
--
Ciao,
Gerhard
"Are [Linux users] lemmings collectively jumping off of the cliff of
reliable,
well-engineered commercial software?" (Matt
Welsh)
From: "Alex Woo" <awoo at mail.arc.nasa dot gov>
Subject: POP & APOP on different ports
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 17:27:51 -0700
Is it possible to run POP and APOP on different
ports? Or different virtual interfaces?
Alex
From: "Evan Erwin" <obiwan at frag dot com>
Subject: RE: POP & APOP on different ports
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From: "Evan Erwin" <obiwan at frag dot com>
Subject: Re: POP & APOP on different ports
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 21:31:10 -0400
(lets try this one more time without the encryption...)
In your /etc directory, edit inetd.conf, it specifies ports and
programs associated with them
Evan
-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Woo [mailto:awoo at mail.arc.nasa dot gov]
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 1999 8:28 PM
To: Subscribers of Qpopper
Subject: POP & APOP on different ports
Is it possible to run POP and APOP on different
ports? Or different virtual interfaces?
Alex
From: "Daryl C" <daryl at ledanet.com dot au>
Subject: unsubscribe
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 21:53:32 +1000
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Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 09:03:02 -0400
From: Matthew Ritenburg <matthew.ritenburg at opensite dot com>
Subject: Re: POP & APOP on different ports
The file that defines port associations is /etc/services.
Matt
At 09:31 PM 4/4/99 -0400, Evan Erwin wrote:
>(lets try this one more time without the encryption...)
>
>In your /etc directory, edit inetd.conf, it specifies ports and
>programs associated with them
>
>Evan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Alex Woo [mailto:awoo at mail.arc.nasa dot gov]
>Sent: Sunday, April 04, 1999 8:28 PM
>To: Subscribers of Qpopper
>Subject: POP & APOP on different ports
>
>Is it possible to run POP and APOP on different
>ports? Or different virtual interfaces?
>
>Alex
>
>
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:06:43 -0300 (EST)
From: Rodrigo Luiz Anami <rodrigoa at bestway.com dot br>
Subject: Re: your mail
M. De Keyzer,
the only way I think that can turn off case sensitive in qpopper is
modifing the source code and put a rotine that carrect the logins.
Regards,
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Best Way Internet Provider Atendimento ao Cliente
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On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Webmaster wrote:
> qpopper is case sensitive when checking usernames, in.pop3d isn't
>
> can the case sensetivety be turned off ?
>
> dear regards M. de Keyzer
>
>
>
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 10:32:31 -0700
From: Susan Lowenberg <susan at calarts dot edu>
Subject: Quota Exceeded Message
I'm running qpopper v 2.53 on an SGI Indy with IRIX 6.5.3. Several
users have been unable to get their mail; qpopper returns the following
error message: "ERR Unable to copy mail spool file, quota exceeded
(1133)." However, the users' disk quotas on the Indy have not been
exceeded and they can read their mail just fine using Pine on the
server.
Does any one have a clue as to what the problem may be? Any help would
be greatly appreciated.
TIA.
--
Susan Lowenberg
Information Resources Librarian
California Institute of the Arts
e-mail: susan at calarts dot edu
voice: 805-253-7888
fax: 805-254-4561
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:51:19 -0400
From: Tomasz Orzechowski <tmo at apk dot net>
Subject: Re: Quota Exceeded Message
Susan Lowenberg wrote on Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 10:32:31AM -0700:i
> I'm running qpopper v 2.53 on an SGI Indy with IRIX 6.5.3. Several
> users have been unable to get their mail; qpopper returns the following
> error message: "ERR Unable to copy mail spool file, quota exceeded
> (1133)." However, the users' disk quotas on the Indy have not been
> exceeded and they can read their mail just fine using Pine on the
> server.
>
> Does any one have a clue as to what the problem may be? Any help would
> be greatly appreciated.
It (qpopper) is making a copy of the mailspool file thus exceeding the
quota? Make separate quotas for /home and /var perhaps?
HTH
--
Tomasz Orzechowski tmo at apk dot net
APK.net systems administration team TO630
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:01:56 -0500
From: Michael Gerdts <gerdts at cae.wisc dot edu>
Subject: Re: Quota Exceeded Message
On Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 10:32:31AM -0700, Susan Lowenberg wrote:
> I'm running qpopper v 2.53 on an SGI Indy with IRIX 6.5.3. Several
> users have been unable to get their mail; qpopper returns the following
> error message: "ERR Unable to copy mail spool file, quota exceeded
> (1133)." However, the users' disk quotas on the Indy have not been
> exceeded and they can read their mail just fine using Pine on the
> server.
>
> Does any one have a clue as to what the problem may be? Any help would
> be greatly appreciated.
>
> TIA.
This would likely be because qpopper makes a copy of the spool file -- both
copies are owned by the user. From the INSTALL file that comes with
qpopper 2.53:
f) POP_DROP - When qpopper runs, it moves your
mailspool to a temporary location (.user.pop). The
default location is in the mail spool directory.
/tmp is an alternative but is considered to be a
security risk. A system reboot usually clears the
temporary .user.pop files. For performance reasons, a
sysadmin who has 1000+ users can create a separate
spool directory for qpopper files; /usr/spool/poptemp
is preferable. Permissions should be the same as your
mailspool with the same owner and group. Edit the value
of POP_DROP in config.h.
For Eg: #define POP_DROP "/usr/spool/poptemp/.%s.pop"
I was having some I/O bottlenecks on my machine and to get rid of them I
made it so that the POP_DROP is on a (solaris) swapfs file system. In
general, this means that this temporary file is never written to disk. ;)
The same solution should work to make it so that people don't need to be at
half of their quota to be able to check their mail.
Mike
--
Mike Gerdts
UNIX Systems Administrator
Computer-Aided Engineering Center
University of Wisconsin - Madison
Date: 7 Apr 99 12:12:01 CST
From: zili zhang <zilizhang at netscape dot net>
Subject: Re: [Re: virtual pop?]
A fully virtual mail system should include sendmail and pop3d working rou=
tines like this:
First in the receiving end, sendmail should be able to receive mutiple do=
main's email to unique local users' emailbox, even some domains have the =
same user name such as:
webmaster at domain1 dot com virtuser1
webmaster at domain2 dot com virtuser2
(virtuser1 and virtuser2 are local poponly users.)
=46rom this point, people can retrive webmaster at domain1 dot com from virtuser=
1 mailbox, but it is inconvenient for them to remember that the real pop3=
user name for webmaster at domain1 dot com is virtuser1. The best is that they =
need only supply 'webmaster' to retrive virtuser1's mail. Thus, pop3d sho=
uld be able to look up some table to know which real user it should check=
password...
Then, pop3d should check which ip it is listen to, and then get the ip's =
hostname, append a '@' and the hostname to virtual user name, then lookup=
the corresponding real user name, then do authencicating and so on.
user connect to mail.domain1.com-->pop3d get ip of mail.domain1.com-->
pop3d look up that ip's hostname(domain1.com)-->pop3d look up the corresp=
onding real user name in a mapping table-->ordinary routines...
-------
zili zhang
Gerhard Pfeiffer <palmcron.gcp at gmx dot de> wrote:
Evan Erwin wrote:
> Seems to me that qpopper wouldn't have to worry about virtual anything.=
> Since sendmail is doing all the accepting and routing, qpopper just let=
s the
> person check their mail, no matter what is in the acct. SMTP should tak=
e
> care of any virtual addresses. That's just my opinion, I could be wrong=
=2E
Well, what he wants is that he only has one account on his machine,
where sendmail stores all mail going to this virtual domain. But when a
user logs on and identifies with user1 at virt-domain dot com it should only
receive the mail, that is for user1, and not the one for user2.
I think the only way to do this is to declare all E-Mail-Adresses in the
virtuser-db of Sendmail.
zili´s virtusertable looks like this I suppose:
@virt-dom.com virtacc
What to do is
user1 at virt-dom dot com usr1virt
user2 at virt-dom dot com usr2virt
and so on.
-- =
Ciao,
Gerhard
=
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reliable,
well-engineered commercial software?" (Matt
Welsh)
____________________________________________________________________
Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm=
ail.netscape.com.
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 10:57:13 +0200
From: Dietmar Stommel <dstommel at netcologne dot de>
Subject: HASH_SPOOL=1
Which Local-Mailer supports HASH_SPOOL=1 ?
--
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NetCologne GmbH
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http://www.netcologne.de
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 15:08:51 -0300
From: Walcir Fontanini-ADM- <walcir at densis.fee.unicamp dot br>
Subject: Re: Quota Exceeded Message
Susan Lowenberg wrote:
> I'm running qpopper v 2.53 on an SGI Indy with IRIX 6.5.3. Several
> users have been unable to get their mail; qpopper returns the following
> error message: "ERR Unable to copy mail spool file, quota exceeded
> (1133)." However, the users' disk quotas on the Indy have not been
> exceeded and they can read their mail just fine using Pine on the
> server.
>
> Does any one have a clue as to what the problem may be? Any help would
> be greatly appreciated.
>
> TIA.
> --
> Susan Lowenberg
> Information Resources Librarian
> California Institute of the Arts
> e-mail: susan at calarts dot edu
> voice: 805-253-7888
> fax: 805-254-4561
Here It is what I did (Solaris 2.x):
(1) enble quota on /var/mail for all users;
(2) every pop user have his hard limite twice as his soft limit;
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:07:26 -0700
From: Vicki Brown <vlb at deltagen dot com>
Subject: Can't access the BULL file?
I've started (twice now) to see this message. I built qpopper (2.53) with
bulletins enabled but have never used them.
What is this and why can I suddenly (occasionally) not access the file?
It exists.
Is this simply a collision between two users?
Is it too late to disable this feature? (Do I need to reinstall qpopper?)
L /var/spool/bulls
total 7
drwxr-xr-x 2 root 500 1024 Nov 16 16:19 .
drwxr-xr-x 14 root wheel 1024 Jan 20 16:22 ..
-rw------- 1 root wheel 4616 Apr 6 13:40 bulldb
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 500 0 Nov 16 15:41 bulldb.dir
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 500 0 Nov 16 15:41 bulldb.pag
-----
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//=\
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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 09:40:21 +0800
From: cwlin at mozart.seed.net dot tw
Subject: Re: Quota Exceeded Message
Walcir Fontanini-ADM- wrote:
>
> Susan Lowenberg wrote:
>
> > I'm running qpopper v 2.53 on an SGI Indy with IRIX 6.5.3. Several
> > users have been unable to get their mail; qpopper returns the following
> > error message: "ERR Unable to copy mail spool file, quota exceeded
> > (1133)." However, the users' disk quotas on the Indy have not been
> > exceeded and they can read their mail just fine using Pine on the
> > server.
> >
> > Does any one have a clue as to what the problem may be? Any help would
> > be greatly appreciated.
> >
1. You can try to change the maildrop path ( in config.h ) to another
non-quota limit
directory.
2.you can try server mode.
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cwlin at mozart.seed.net.tw. http://cwlin.seed.net dot tw
SEEDNet Senior System Administrator / System Architect
Taipei, Taiwan.
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 09:43:45 +0800
From: Byron Jones <byron at vianet.net dot au>
Subject: Re: Quota Exceeded Message
>> I'm running qpopper v 2.53 on an SGI Indy with IRIX 6.5.3. Several
>> users have been unable to get their mail; qpopper returns the following
>> error message: "ERR Unable to copy mail spool file, quota exceeded
>> (1133)." However, the users' disk quotas on the Indy have not been
>> exceeded and they can read their mail just fine using Pine on the
>> server.
>>
>> Does any one have a clue as to what the problem may be? Any help would
>> be greatly appreciated.
>>
>Here It is what I did (Solaris 2.x):
>
>(1) enble quota on /var/mail for all users;
>
>(2) every pop user have his hard limite twice as his soft limit;
>
why not compile and run qpopper in server mode? then it won't duplicate
the file and as a bonus you should see a bit of performance boost.
- Byron Jones - "If you can't make it good, at least
- Systems Administrator - make it look good.",
- Vianet Australia - Bill Gates,
- http://www.vianet.net.au/~byron - on the solid code base of Win9X
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 09:53:26 +0800
From: cwlin at mozart.seed.net dot tw
Subject: About qpopper 2.53 server mode
In qpopper 3.0 beta,
http://eudora.qualcomm.com/freeware/qpop.html#BETA
Say that 3.0 fix bugs with Bulletin and Server mode.
Does anyone know what kind of bugs that we will found
in 2.53 with Bulletin and server mode?
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SEEDNet Senior System Administrator / System Architect
Taipei, Taiwan.
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 09:43:19 +0800
From: cwlin at mozart.seed.net dot tw
Subject: Re: Can't access the BULL file?
Vicki Brown wrote:
> L /var/spool/bulls
> total 7
> drwxr-xr-x 2 root 500 1024 Nov 16 16:19 .
> drwxr-xr-x 14 root wheel 1024 Jan 20 16:22 ..
> -rw------- 1 root wheel 4616 Apr 6 13:40 bulldb
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root 500 0 Nov 16 15:41 bulldb.dir
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root 500 0 Nov 16 15:41 bulldb.pag
There are two kind of BULLDB in your directory. One is gdbm (bulldb)
Another is dbm ( or ndbm ) -- bulldb.dir and bulldb.pag. Could you
check which db you use when compile qoppper.
And you can try to chmod 777 /var/spool/bulls.
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cwlin at mozart.seed.net.tw. http://cwlin.seed.net dot tw
SEEDNet Senior System Administrator / System Architect
Taipei, Taiwan.
From: "Evan Erwin" <obiwan at frag dot com>
Subject: Cannot create .popbull and popauth not working...
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 22:11:30 -0400
I'm sure this has to be one of the most asked questions, and why its not in
the FAQ is beyond me. But, twice now, I've used Qpopper and twice it gives
me the same message (I used 2.53 and now 3.0b14) appears in
/var/log/messages when I try to use bulletins: unable to create .popbull
file. This pertains to the users directory from what I can tell, and no
matter what the user's id is (from what I can tell). I ran qpopper with
./configure -enable-bulletins="/var/spool/bulls" -enable-servermode
and no luck. Same message. Please help, I'm sure there is a real simple fix
for this, but I have found none. I tried editing popper.h and having the
BULLDIR = to /var/spool/bulls, but no luck their either.
My second question pertains to popauth. While I tried to compile it
(I -enable-popauth="/etc/pop.auth" with ./configure), it gives me an error
that it cannot read the file format that popauth.o is in. I delete popauth.o
(or rename it just to get it out of the way), and the same error. I remember
that it did compile the first time I "make"d, but no longer after that. Any
ideas?
Thanks a lot
Evan Erwin
Systems Administrator
The Citizens Bank of East Tennessee
From: "Evan Erwin" <obiwan at frag dot com>
Subject: Cannot create .popbull and popauth not working...
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 22:12:00 -0400
I'm sure this has to be one of the most asked questions, and why its not in
the FAQ is beyond me. But, twice now, I've used Qpopper and twice it gives
me the same message (I used 2.53 and now 3.0b14) appears in
/var/log/messages when I try to use bulletins: unable to create .popbull
file. This pertains to the users directory from what I can tell, and no
matter what the user's id is (from what I can tell). I ran qpopper with
./configure -enable-bulletins="/var/spool/bulls" -enable-servermode
and no luck. Same message. Please help, I'm sure there is a real simple fix
for this, but I have found none. I tried editing popper.h and having the
BULLDIR = to /var/spool/bulls, but no luck their either.
My second question pertains to popauth. While I tried to compile it
(I -enable-popauth="/etc/pop.auth" with ./configure), it gives me an error
that it cannot read the file format that popauth.o is in. I delete popauth.o
(or rename it just to get it out of the way), and the same error. I remember
that it did compile the first time I "make"d, but no longer after that. Any
ideas?
Thanks a lot
Evan Erwin
Systems Administrator
The Citizens Bank of East Tennessee
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:45:12 -0700
From: Vicki Brown <vlb at deltagen dot com>
Subject: Re: Can't access the BULL file?
At 09:43 +0800 4/8/99, cwlin at mozart.seed.net dot tw wrote:
> Vicki Brown wrote:
>
>> L /var/spool/bulls
>> total 7
>> drwxr-xr-x 2 root 500 1024 Nov 16 16:19 .
>> drwxr-xr-x 14 root wheel 1024 Jan 20 16:22 ..
>> -rw------- 1 root wheel 4616 Apr 6 13:40 bulldb
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root 500 0 Nov 16 15:41 bulldb.dir
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root 500 0 Nov 16 15:41 bulldb.pag
>
> There are two kind of BULLDB in your directory. One is gdbm (bulldb)
> Another is dbm ( or ndbm ) -- bulldb.dir and bulldb.pag.
> Could you
> check which db you use when compile qoppper.
Whichever one was the default :-)
Since the .dir/.pag are very old perhaps I shall remove them?
> And you can try to chmod 777 /var/spool/bulls.
GAAAH! never (:-) 644 maybe ;-)
I don't think that's the problem anyway. The error is not constant.
- Vicki
-----
//=\ Vicki Brown <vlb at deltagen dot com>
\=// Journeyman Sourcerer: Scripts & Philtres
//=\ (Mac)Perl, awk, sed, *sh..., occasional C
\=// A little web-gardening on the weekends
//=\
\=// Deltagen, Inc.
//=\ 1031 Bing St, San Carlos, CA 94070
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 21:19:31 +0200
From: Guido Dolci <dolci at sfera dot net>
Subject: netscape error
I've found out that ANY user using netscape communicator over qpopper
3.0b14 has in the log file the entry:
-ERR Unknown command:"xsender"
Any idea? Maybe downgrade to 2.53??
Thanks
Guido
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:33:35 +0800
From: cwlin at mozart.seed.net dot tw
Subject: Re: Can't access the BULL file?
On Thu, Apr 08, 1999 at 11:45:12AM -0700, Vicki Brown wrote:
> > There are two kind of BULLDB in your directory. One is gdbm (bulldb)
> > Another is dbm ( or ndbm ) -- bulldb.dir and bulldb.pag.
>
> > Could you
> > check which db you use when compile qoppper.
>
> Whichever one was the default :-)
>
configure will auto detect which db you have in your
OS. You can check the Makefile ( search -gdbm ) and
config.h ( search GDBM ).
--
Ching-Wei LIN
cwlin at mozart.seed.net dot tw.
SEEDNet System Administrator
Taipei, Taiwan
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:20:42 -0700
From: Vicki Brown <vlb at cfcl dot com>
Subject: Why is Eudora asking for my password?
Is this a popper thing or a Eudora thing? All of a sudden I'm asked
for my password. It remembers my password. I haven't changed
anything. I haven't installed a new popper. I haven't done anything
(that I know of).
What sorts of things would make it "forget" my password?
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Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:38:58 +1200 (NZST)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: Why is Eudora asking for my password?
On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Vicki Brown wrote:
> Is this a popper thing or a Eudora thing? All of a sudden I'm asked
> for my password. It remembers my password. I haven't changed
> anything. I haven't installed a new popper. I haven't done anything
> (that I know of).
>
> What sorts of things would make it "forget" my password?
If _anything_ goes wrong while popping mail, Eudora (and most other
packages) will ask for the password at next check.
That includes temporary/transient errorss like "can't lock bulldb"
AB
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 09:27:20 -0400
From: Roy Kidder <rkidder at ocom dot com>
Subject: Re: Why is Eudora asking for my password?
Eudora has a nasty habit of "forgetting" your password when it encounters
certain types of errors (despite the fact that you might have it set to
save your password).
Say for example Eudora checks for mail at the same time that sendmail is
accepting mail for the same account. The two processes in the UNIX box
(popper and sendmail) are attempting to access your mail file in the spool
directory at the same time. sendmail wins and popper ends with an error
claiming that the device or resource (your mail file) is busy. It passes
this error back to your POP client. Eudora apparently doesn't differentiate
between a POP server telling it it passed bad auth credentials versus the
POP server stating that it encountered a problem with file access.
Eudora then "forgets" your password. The next time it checks for mail it
prompts you to enter your password again. It may even disable the "remember
password" option, I'm not sure.
Hope it helps,
Roy
At 10:20 PM 4/8/99 -0700, Vicki Brown wrote:
>Is this a popper thing or a Eudora thing? All of a sudden I'm asked
>for my password. It remembers my password. I haven't changed
>anything. I haven't installed a new popper. I haven't done anything
>(that I know of).
>
>What sorts of things would make it "forget" my password?
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> |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' P.O. Box 1269 San Bruno CA 94066
> '---''(_/--' `-'\_) http://www.cfcl.com/~vlb http://www.macperl.org
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 22:39:09 +0800
From: Jieh-Zhang Chen <b3401084 at med.mc.ntu.edu dot tw>
Subject: Installation problem of qp3
I was trying to install qpopper3.0b14 on SunOS4.13 but failed.
The error messages are as follows:
===================================
> make
cd ./popper && make all
cd ../mmangle && make all
gcc -c -I.. -I. -I.. -I../popper -g -O2 -fstrength-reduce -fpcc-struct-return -D
HAVE_CONFIG_H -DSUNOS4 -DUNIX mime.c -o mime.o
mime.c: In function `MimeProcess':
mime.c:897: `SEEK_SET' undeclared (first use in this function)
mime.c:897: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
mime.c:897: for each function it appears in.)
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `mime.o'
Current working directory /usr4/sysop/jjchen/source/qpopper3.0/mmangle
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `mangler_library'
Current working directory /usr4/sysop/jjchen/source/qpopper3.0/popper
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `popper_server'
====================================
How should I do to solve this problem?
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:38:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lufan Chen <lchen at Rational dot Com>
Subject: Questions on reversed host name lookup
Folks,
If a qpopper server inside the firewall allows user to retrieve
mail from internet hosts(outside the firewall), will there
be any problem(say, security) if we turn Reversed name lookup
off? Also, does anyone know how to turn Reversed name lookup
off when compiling the qpopper2.52 binary? Your pointers
will be greatly appreciated.
-----------------------------
Lufan Chen
Email: lchen at rational dot com
*****************************
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:01:29 +0800
From: cwlin at mozart.seed.net dot tw
Subject: About maillock
Hi...
Do anyone know why qpopper 2.53 use
maillock() function call in svr4 OS?
And qpopper does not follow maillock()
algorithm to use touchlock() to keep
locking.
maillock let the I/O slower...
I have check sendmail, procmail, elm source,
no one use maillock for locking. I do not
understand why qpopper 2.53 need use
maillock in SVR4, and treat it as a optional
function? (I can undef MAILLOCK in config.h,
it is still working well and faster)
If maillock is optional, why qopper use it in
SVR4? Thank you very much.
--
Ching-Wei LIN
cwlin at mozart.seed.net dot tw.
SEEDNet System Administrator
Taipei, Taiwan
From: Damien Hobona <DHobona at gov dot bw>
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:27:02 +0200
unsubscribe
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 16:20:30 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Questions on reversed host name lookup
At 12:38 PM -0700 4/9/99, Lufan Chen wrote:
>Folks,
>
>If a qpopper server inside the firewall allows user to retrieve
>mail from internet hosts(outside the firewall), will there
>be any problem(say, security) if we turn Reversed name lookup
>off? Also, does anyone know how to turn Reversed name lookup
>off when compiling the qpopper2.52 binary? Your pointers
>will be greatly appreciated.
There is no security risk, because you have the IP address, which is
more accurate than the reverse lookup anyway. DNS entries can be
easily forged, trivially if one has access to the DNS for the IP in
question. Reverse lookups in Qpopper are really just a convenience,
There is no option to turn off reverse lookups in releases before
3.0, but you could always comment out the code if you wanted to.
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 16:30:34 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Why is Eudora asking for my password?
At 5:38 PM +1200 4/9/99, Alan Brown wrote:
>If _anything_ goes wrong while popping mail, Eudora (and most other
>packages) will ask for the password at next check.
Eudora does have a list of harmless error strings. If it finds any
of these strings in an error message from the server, it does not
forget the password. It is also possible to add strings to the list.
Many of the Qpopper (and other popular servers) harmless error
strings are in there.
Also, POP servers which support RFC 2449 can add response codes in
square brackets to error messages, to tell clients how to act, such
as not forgetting the password.
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:14:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tim Patterson <tim at harborside dot com>
Subject: Lost or looks like lost mail on 3.x
I have tried all three 3.x versions. In each case I have
had to return to 2.x as a result of customers complaining about
lost mail. I thought it was Windows Messaging or MS Internet Mail
counting the From(s) incorrectly, but now I am not so sure.
Any similiar experiences.
OS is BSDI 4.0
Tim Patterson
Harborside Internet
541-469-8844 800-680-8855
FAX 541-469-9163
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:08:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Mike T." <arakel at dig-net dot net>
Subject: help
anyone know why.. after a clean installation of v2.53 and adding all
necessary lines to the inetd.conf & /etc/services file (enabling server
mode) and running sendmail 8.9.3 ( on redhat5.2) why it will still not let
a dialup account (let alone any) check mail? (and yes I sent the HUP)
PLEASE help.. I have no hair left..
Thx
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:34:52 -0500
From: RTS <rts at rdr dot net>
Subject: Re: help
First ... What kind errors are you getting???
Second... Are you running shadow passwords?? If so did you complie with
the special-auth parameter??
Randy
At 07:08 PM 4/10/99 -0700, Mike T. wrote:
>anyone know why.. after a clean installation of v2.53 and adding all
>necessary lines to the inetd.conf & /etc/services file (enabling server
>mode) and running sendmail 8.9.3 ( on redhat5.2) why it will still not let
>a dialup account (let alone any) check mail? (and yes I sent the HUP)
>
>PLEASE help.. I have no hair left..
>
>Thx
>
>
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:52:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Mike T." <arakel at dig-net dot net>
Subject: Re: help
thanks... got it.... it doesn't run very well well you put in it's own
dir...
thanks..
On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, RTS wrote:
> First ... What kind errors are you getting???
>
> Second... Are you running shadow passwords?? If so did you complie with
> the special-auth parameter??
>
> Randy
>
> At 07:08 PM 4/10/99 -0700, Mike T. wrote:
> >anyone know why.. after a clean installation of v2.53 and adding all
> >necessary lines to the inetd.conf & /etc/services file (enabling server
> >mode) and running sendmail 8.9.3 ( on redhat5.2) why it will still not let
> >a dialup account (let alone any) check mail? (and yes I sent the HUP)
> >
> >PLEASE help.. I have no hair left..
> >
> >Thx
> >
> >
>
From: "Brunette, Jason" <jbrunette at excel dot net>
Subject: RE: Lost or looks like lost mail on 3.x
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 01:25:59 -0500
It is a bug in Internet Mail (not sure about Windows Messaging). Qpopper
3.x is different than 2.x in that it sends an extra blank line at the end of
messages retrieved via the RETR command. Often, there are two blank lines
at the end of multipart messages before the beginning of the next message in
the mail spool file. Because Qpopper 3.x returns an extra blank line at the
end of messages, Internet mail receives 3 blank lines at the end of a
multipart message. Internet Mail does not expect 3 lines at the end of a
multipart message and simply discards the message, then gleefully deletes it
after all messages have been downloaded, causing the message to be lost
forever. This does not happen with non-multipart messages. This does not
happen with any other mail program we know of. Solutions: have client
upgrade to Outlook Express which doesn't exhibit this behavior, or use
Qpopper 2.x until 3 is fixed. The Qpopper author was notified weeks ago but
no word from him...
============================================================================
Jason Brunette Excel.Net, Inc. Phone: (920) 452-0455
jbrunette at excel dot net "Your excellent Internet provider" Fax: (920) 452-8118
http://www.excel.net/ Toll Free: (888) 489-9995
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Patterson [mailto:tim at harborside dot com]
> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 1999 9:14 PM
> To: Randall Gellens
> Cc: Subscribers of Qpopper
> Subject: Lost or looks like lost mail on 3.x
>
>
> I have tried all three 3.x versions. In each case I have
> had to return to 2.x as a result of customers complaining about
> lost mail. I thought it was Windows Messaging or MS Internet Mail
> counting the From(s) incorrectly, but now I am not so sure.
>
> Any similiar experiences.
>
> OS is BSDI 4.0
>
>
> Tim Patterson
> Harborside Internet
> 541-469-8844 800-680-8855
> FAX 541-469-9163
>
>
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:51:48 -0700
From: Vicki Brown <vlb at cfcl dot com>
Subject: Re: Why is Eudora asking for my password?
At 16:30 -0700 4/10/99, Randall Gellens wrote:
> At 5:38 PM +1200 4/9/99, Alan Brown wrote:
>
>>If _anything_ goes wrong while popping mail, Eudora (and most other
>>packages) will ask for the password at next check.
>
> Eudora does have a list of harmless error strings. If it finds any
> of these strings in an error message from the server, it does not
> forget the password. It is also possible to add strings to the list.
> Many of the Qpopper (and other popular servers) harmless error
> strings are in there.
>
> Also, POP servers which support RFC 2449 can add response codes in
> square brackets to error messages, to tell clients how to act, such
> as not forgetting the password.
Given that I have trouble believing that the inability to access the
Bulletins directory should cause Eudora to forget my password... maybe I
should be addressing this issue to the qpopper 3.0 beta folks? :-)
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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:36:24 -0500
From: Kevin <kdh at midwest dot net>
Subject: Bulletin Board Load
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Does anyone know (In server mode)...
1) How much of a performance hit would adding the Bulletin feature, to a
popper build, add to a mail system handling 20,000+ users?
2) Considering that most the time maybe 6 messages per year would be mailed
to all users, would it still be wise to add this support, or should it be
dropped in order to gain performance?
I know I could walk through the code, but it would be much faster if
someone already knew...
Thanks,
Kevin Haldeman
Systems Administrator
Midwest Internet
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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:41:53 -0700
From: Barry Treahy <treahy at mmaz dot com>
Subject: [Fwd: [Fwd: Errors in envelope]]
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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:48:14 -0700
From: Barry Treahy <treahy at mmaz dot com>
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To: Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Errors in envelope
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Good day Randall.
Randall Gellens wrote:
> At 8:38 AM -0700 4/6/99, Barry Treahy wrote:
>
> >Suggestions on how to work around this? Was was out of the office for 4
> >days and found 2.5 MB of messages and the beta qpopper couldn't read
> >it... Had to fall back to the original popd from Slackware 3.6 to get
> >the messages pulled down...
> >
> >Barry
> >
> >
> >Apr 6 08:29:18 sharks popper[30572]: treahy at dell400.mmaz dot com: -ERR
> >Unable to process From lines (envelopes), change recognition modes.
> >Apr 6 08:30:26 sharks popper[30579]: treahy at dell400.mmaz dot com: -ERR
> >Unable to process From lines (envelopes), change recognition modes.
>
> Did you look at the spool files and see what was wrong?
This file was too big to for me to spend any serious time on it. The qpopper
error message didn't share enough information as to the context of the error
or line in the spool file to aid in the location of this but I have had
another envelope type problems where the From: had an additional F as in
FFrom:. Probably someone forging a message, but for popper to choke and not
process the file, well that isn't good either.
>
>
> What other processes are running which might alter the spool file?
None, I either run qpopper or the original Slackware 3.6 pop3d and as for
mailers, I'm running sendmail 8.9.3. No other agents or processors.
>
>
> Which delivery agent is being used?
SMTP Sendmail 8.9.3
>
>
> What is the platform and OS?
Linux 2.0.36 Kernel using a SW 3.6 dist. running on a Intel based PC>
Hope that helps...
Barry
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Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:04:55 +0800
From: Byron Jones <byron at vianet.net dot au>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: [Fwd: Errors in envelope]]
>> >Apr 6 08:29:18 sharks popper[30572]: treahy at dell400.mmaz dot com: -ERR
>> >Unable to process From lines (envelopes), change recognition modes.
>> >Apr 6 08:30:26 sharks popper[30579]: treahy at dell400.mmaz dot com: -ERR
>> >Unable to process From lines (envelopes), change recognition modes.
>>
>> Did you look at the spool files and see what was wrong?
>
>This file was too big to for me to spend any serious time on it. The qpopper
>error message didn't share enough information as to the context of the error
>or line in the spool file to aid in the location of this but I have had
>another envelope type problems where the From: had an additional F as in
>FFrom:. Probably someone forging a message, but for popper to choke and not
>process the file, well that isn't good either.
i too have been having many problems with from lines...
i'm running qpopper 2.53 on redhat 5.2. for users that are using mdeamon
(latest version or earlier) and receive large attachments (>1 meg but less
than 5) it appears that the popper process dies (the lock remains but the
process isn't running anymore). the top half of the first email attachment
is usually chopped off in spool file resulting in the first n lines of the
spool file being mime/uuencoded data. qpopper spews at this and refuses to
process the file. i've installed mdeamon myself however i've been unable
to duplicate the problem onsite. i suspect it's something to do with the
email taking longer to download than the wait period between mdeamon's
checks and it's starting up two checks. of course the second check should
be denied, but ... <shrughs>
the problem occurs much more frequently in the latest beta than version 2.x.
while i'll prefer for this problem to be fixed, is it possible/propper to
include an option into qpopper to skip over invalid from lines and report
the problem to a sysop - that is, for this kind of problem to be non-fatal?
- Byron Jones -
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- http://www.vianet.net.au/~byron/ -
From: "Chad Sorrell" <gabe at quasarhosting dot com>
Subject:
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:00:53 -0500
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From: "Evan Erwin" <obiwan at frag dot com>
Subject: RE: Bulletin Board Load
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:56:27 -0400
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I seriously doubt that it would effect any kind of performance, itís more of
a benefit for the administrator than a burden to the machine. And besides,
though you may only need it X times a year, its always nice to be able to
just write it once, pop it in the bulletin directory (no pun intended) and
be done with it.
Thatís just my opinion, I could be wrong
Evan Erwin
Systems Administrator
The Citizens Bank of East Tennessee
-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin [mailto:kdh at midwest dot net]
Sent: Monday, April 12, 1999 4:36 PM
To: Subscribers of Qpopper
Subject: Bulletin Board Load
Does anyone know (In server mode)...
1) How much of a performance hit would adding the Bulletin feature, to a
popper build, add to a mail system handling 20,000+ users?
2) Considering that most the time maybe 6 messages per year would be mailed
to all users, would it still be wise to add this support, or should it be
dropped in order to gain performance?
I know I could walk through the code, but it would be much faster if someone
already knew...
Thanks,
Kevin Haldeman
Systems Administrator
Midwest Internet
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