The qpopper list archive ending on 4 Jan 2000


Topics covered in this issue include:

  1. apop application
       Tae-Chul Lee <tclee at prosys.korea.ac dot kr>
       Mon, 27 Dec 1999 23:06:36 +0900
  2. Re: dead subscriber?
       Fergal Daly <fergal at esatclear dot ie>
       Mon, 27 Dec 1999 13:48:43 +0000
  3. Re: Password incorrect
       Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
       Mon, 27 Dec 1999 09:35:09 -0800
  4. qpopper 3.0b26 and FreeBSD 3.3
       Gildas PERROT <perrot at FranceNet dot fr>
       Mon, 27 Dec 1999 18:49:27 +0100
  5. What is the most using to deliver e-mail to local user ?
       "¼Ž¼Ã…Ê" <mrpark at etri.re dot kr>
       Tue, 28 Dec 1999 09:45:49 +0900
  6. Re: Qpopper 3.0b26 available but still no PAM support.  :(
       Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
       Mon, 27 Dec 1999 17:39:07 -0800
  7. Re: Qpopper 3.0b26 available but still no PAM support.  :(
       Forrest Aldrich <forrie at forrie dot com>
       Mon, 27 Dec 1999 20:40:40 -0500
  8. Re: Qpopper 3.0b26 available but still no PAM support.  :(
       Tomasz Orzechowski <tmo at apk dot net>
       Tue, 28 Dec 1999 01:37:38 -0500
  9. Re: Qpopper 3.0b26 available but still no PAM support.  :(
       Fergal Daly <fergal at esatclear dot ie>
       Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:34:38 +0000
 10. Re: Qpopper 3.0b26 available but still no PAM support.  :(
       Mike Nugent <mnugent at goamerica dot net>
       Tue, 28 Dec 1999 08:50:23 -0500
 11. Re: Qpopper 3.0b26 available but still no PAM support.  :(
       Forrest Aldrich <forrie at forrie dot com>
       Tue, 28 Dec 1999 08:28:42 -0500
 12. RE: Michael Nugents mysql patch
       Steven Fletcher <stevenf at shellnet.co dot uk>
       Tue, 28 Dec 1999 17:31:46 -0000
 13. Experimental smtp-after-pop patch for 2.53
       Dana Basken <dana at basken dot com>
       Tue, 28 Dec 1999 14:47:21 -0500 (EST)
 14. Re: Experimental smtp-after-pop patch for 2.53
       Dana Basken <dana at basken dot com>
       Tue, 28 Dec 1999 16:20:32 -0500 (EST)
 15. RE: Michael Nugents mysql patch
       Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
       Wed, 29 Dec 1999 13:20:06 +1300 (NZDT)
 16. RE: Experimental smtp-after-pop patch for 2.53
       "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Philipp_Gaschütz?=" <philipp at gng dot de>
       Wed, 29 Dec 1999 01:23:48 +0100
 17. How to be removed..
       "F Boucher" <dziablo at lords dot com>
       Wed, 29 Dec 1999 10:03:50 -0500
 18. Re: How to be removed..
       "Jeremy C. Reed" <reed at wcug.wwu dot edu>
       Wed, 29 Dec 1999 07:28:09 -0800 (PST)
 19. Re: How to be removed..
       Leonard Hermens <Leonard.Hermens at rcity dot com>
       Wed, 29 Dec 1999 10:55:18 -0800
 20. Qpopper gets a relay message from sendmail 8.10
       Santiago A Tavares <tavasa at che.ufl dot edu>
       Thu, 30 Dec 1999 14:23:53 -0500
 21. Re: Qpopper gets a relay message from sendmail 8.10
       Admin Mailing Lists <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
       Thu, 30 Dec 1999 14:21:06 -0500 (EST)
 22. Re: Qpopper gets a relay message from sendmail 8.10
       Santiago A Tavares <tavasa at che.ufl dot edu>
       Thu, 30 Dec 1999 18:59:37 -0500
 23. Qpopper 3.0b27 available
       Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
       Thu, 30 Dec 1999 16:19:39 -0800
 24. Re: Qpopper 3.0b27 available
       Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
       Thu, 30 Dec 1999 16:24:49 -0800
 25. error messages
       Gplendon at aol dot com
       Thu, 30 Dec 1999 21:18:15 EST
 26. duplicate message woes
       Gplendon at aol dot com
       Thu, 30 Dec 1999 21:20:06 EST
 27. (no subject)
       Gplendon at aol dot com
       Thu, 30 Dec 1999 21:26:22 EST
 28. 3.0b28?
       Jason Englander <jason at interl dot net>
       Fri, 31 Dec 1999 15:48:34 -0600 (CST)
 29. Additional configure flags?
       Jason Englander <jason at interl dot net>
       Fri, 31 Dec 1999 16:10:45 -0600 (CST)
 30. Qpopper 3.0b28 available
       Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
       Fri, 31 Dec 1999 14:59:42 -0800
 31. Re: duplicate message woes
       Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
       Fri, 31 Dec 1999 15:01:32 -0800
 32. capa error
       Brent <bierblb at netins dot net>
       Sun, 2 Jan 2000 12:52:59 -0600
 33. Re: capa error
       Matthew Fillmore <MFillmore at pensive dot org>
       Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:49:09 -0800
 34. stats
       Brent <bierblb at netins dot net>
       Sun, 2 Jan 2000 17:01:14 -0600
 35. help! help! err=107 
       James Tsang <jtsang at crystal.com dot cn>
       Tue, 4 Jan 2000 10:17:37 +0800 
 36. FW: help! help! err=107 
       James Tsang <jtsang at crystal.com dot cn>
       Tue, 4 Jan 2000 11:36:44 +0800 
 37. RE: help! help! err=107 
       James Tsang <jtsang at crystal.com dot cn>
       Tue, 4 Jan 2000 13:45:34 +0800 
 38. Qpopper error with client 
       "David Uzzell" <duzzell at 1stpenshurst-scouts.asn dot au>
       Tue, 4 Jan 2000 17:32:43 +1100
 39. RE: help! help! err=107 
       Vince Vielhaber <vev at michvhf dot com>
       Tue, 4 Jan 2000 06:33:56 -0500 (EST)
 40. Re: Qpopper error with client 
       Vince Vielhaber <vev at michvhf dot com>
       Tue, 4 Jan 2000 06:43:22 -0500 (EST)
 41. RE: help! help! err=107 
       James Tsang <jtsang at crystal.com dot cn>
       Tue, 4 Jan 2000 21:01:33 +0800 
 42. RE: help! help! err=107 
       Vince Vielhaber <vev at michvhf dot com>
       Tue, 4 Jan 2000 07:53:02 -0500 (EST)
 43. Re: Qpopper error with client 
       "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Christian_Gnägi?=" <cg at gnasch dot ch>
       Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:20:15 +0100
 44. Problem with a virtual domain
       "Lisa Casey" <lisa at jellico dot com>
       Tue, 4 Jan 2000 10:38:59 -0500
 45. Re: Problem with a virtual domain
       Steven Champeon <schampeo at hesketh dot com>
       Tue, 4 Jan 2000 10:48:51 -0500 (EST)
 46. Re: Problem with a virtual domain
       "Lisa Casey" <lisa at jellico dot com>
       Tue, 4 Jan 2000 11:04:03 -0500
 47. qpopper keep a message
       James Tsang <jtsang at crystal.com dot cn>
       Wed, 5 Jan 2000 01:40:22 +0800 
 48. Re: qpopper keep a message
       Vince Vielhaber <vev at michvhf dot com>
       Tue, 4 Jan 2000 12:47:15 -0500 (EST)
 49. Qpopper compile error on b28
       Forrest Aldrich <forrie at forrie dot com>
       Tue, 04 Jan 2000 13:15:02 -0500
 50. Re: Qpopper compile error on b28
       Vince Vielhaber <vev at michvhf dot com>
       Tue, 4 Jan 2000 13:29:52 -0500 (EST)

Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 23:06:36 +0900
From: Tae-Chul Lee <tclee at prosys.korea.ac dot kr>
Subject: apop application

I install qpopper 3.0b26 on redhat 6.0 and wanna use apop.

Eudora supports APOP authentification method but netscape messenger and
outlook express do not it.
How can I use apop with messenger or outlook express ?
I wanna use apop because packet sniffer catch user id and passwd.
Is there any solutions using secure pop connection ?

Thank you in advance.

regards,

Tae-Chul Lee
ICQ#50985328
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Korea University       FAX : 822-926-6102
1-Anam, Sungbuk-ku,    mailto:tclee at prosys.korea.ac dot kr
Seoul 136-701 Korea    http://prosys.korea.ac.kr/~tclee
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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 13:48:43 +0000
From: Fergal Daly <fergal at esatclear dot ie>
Subject: Re: dead subscriber?

At 21:33 26/12/99 -0800, Listmaster wrote:
>At 7:15 PM +0000 12/22/99, Fergal Daly wrote:
>
>>  For the last few weeks (months?) whenever I send mail to this list I get
>>  this from someone, can the list manager remove this guy please, thanks,
>
>The problem was that the bounces do not give any clue as to the 
>original recipient of the message, nor the route it took.  The 
>address in the bounces was not itself subscribed, nor was anyone at 
>that host.  The postmaster at that host does not answer email.
>
>The bounces are in direct violation of RFC 821.  They are sent to the 
> From header, instead of the envelope return-path.  They also fail to 
>include the original message, which would have trace headers.
>
>So I wrote a program to send special messages to all subscribers 
>individually, using unique From and Subject headers.  This revealed 
>the culprit, who has been unsubscribed.


Excellent, thanks,

Fergal



Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 09:35:09 -0800
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Password incorrect

At 7:33 PM +1100 12/27/99, Jason Oakley wrote:

>The reason I didn't is, I have compiled several qpopper versions at 
>work where I run Solaris 7 and never have used that switch, yet the 
>server does have shadow passwording... strange.

You don't need to use --enable-specialauth for shadow password 
support on some systems, such as Solaris, and I think FreeBSD. 
Enabling it on Solaris doesn't hurt, though.

Subject: qpopper 3.0b26 and FreeBSD 3.3
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 18:49:27 +0100
From: Gildas PERROT <perrot at FranceNet dot fr>

Hi,

I am trying to install qpopper 3.0b26 and FreeBSD 3.3 with gcc 2.7.2.3.
I used "./configure --enable-servermode", modified config.h :

 #define POP_DROP "/var/spool/poptemp/.%s.pop"
 #define POP_TMPDROP "/var/spool/poptemp/tmpXXXXXX"
 #define POP_TMPXMIT "/var/spool/poptemp/xmitXXXXXX"

in order to increase performances of popper server.

I create a /var/spool/poptemp directory with 777 permisions.

Now, when I tried to get my email, I have this error message :

PASS failed: -ERR maillock: '/var/spool/poptemp/.gperrot.pop'

and I can find that file which did not exist before :
-rw-------   1 gperrot  wheel    0 Dec 27 18:41 .gperrot.pop

Any idea about that problem ?

BTW, i found that qpopper 2.53 was ported on FreeBSD but in the source of the 
port, there was a flock.c file added to the standard distribution.
Any idea why ? Does someone have any explanation about the lock problem on 
FreeBSD 3.x when using qpopper and sendmail 8.9.3 ?

Thanks in advance for your help.		Gildas.
-- 
Gildas PERROT, perrot at francenet dot fr         __o
FranceNet, 28 rue Desaix, 75015 Paris ---_ \<,_
http://www.francenet.fr            ---- (_)/ (_)

-- 
Gildas PERROT, perrot at francenet dot fr         __o
FranceNet, 28 rue Desaix, 75015 Paris ---_ \<,_
http://www.francenet.fr            ---- (_)/ (_)



From: "¼Ž¼Ã…Ê" <mrpark at etri.re dot kr>
Subject: What is the most using to deliver e-mail to local user ?
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 09:45:49 +0900

Hi, everybody...

I wonder about What program is using to deliver local e-mail over the
Internet e-mail.

I know many program can use, like procmail, deliver, mail.local, qmail,....

Which program is the most using over the Internet ?
do you know ?



Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 17:39:07 -0800
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.0b26 available but still no PAM support.  :(

I am working on fitting German Poo's PAM patch into 3.0b27.  (I am going to 
make it work for Solaris as well as Linux).

One thing I'd like to change is the PAM service name.  German used 
"qpopper", but I'm inclined to think "POP3" makes more sense, as it would 
be applicable to any POP3 server.

Any objections?


Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 20:40:40 -0500
From: Forrest Aldrich <forrie at forrie dot com>
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.0b26 available but still no PAM support.  :(

That's sensible, yes.

Now a stupid question:  what advantages will we get with integrating PAM 
with qpopper, especially in a setup that includes an MTA like 
sendmail.  You will still need /etc/passwd entries for sendmail, unless you 
hack something else together....



At 05:39 PM 12/27/99 -0800, Qpopper Support wrote:
>I am working on fitting German Poo's PAM patch into 3.0b27.  (I am going 
>to make it work for Solaris as well as Linux).
>
>One thing I'd like to change is the PAM service name.  German used 
>"qpopper", but I'm inclined to think "POP3" makes more sense, as it would 
>be applicable to any POP3 server.
>
>Any objections?
>


Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 01:37:38 -0500
From: Tomasz Orzechowski <tmo at apk dot net>
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.0b26 available but still no PAM support.  :(

Forrest Aldrich wrote on Mon, Dec 27, 1999 at 08:40:40PM -0500:i
> Now a stupid question:  what advantages will we get with integrating PAM 
> with qpopper, especially in a setup that includes an MTA like 
> sendmail.  You will still need /etc/passwd entries for sendmail, unless you 
> hack something else together....

The layer of authenticating users will be handled by PAM, not hard coded
into the process/daemon/server requireing authentication.  So that you
can go from normal /etc/passwd to /etc/passwd + /etc/shadow with md5
passwords, not just crypts, and still use the very same binary, since
it is PAM that controls access and authentication.

And of course you will be able (theoreretically) to use other means of
authentication, like raduis, nis, kerberos, etc. transparently.

T.

Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:34:38 +0000
From: Fergal Daly <fergal at esatclear dot ie>
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.0b26 available but still no PAM support.  :(

At 20:40 27/12/99 -0500, Forrest Aldrich wrote:
>That's sensible, yes.
>
>Now a stupid question:  what advantages will we get with integrating PAM 
>with qpopper, especially in a setup that includes an MTA like 
>sendmail.  You will still need /etc/passwd entries for sendmail, unless you 
>hack something else together....

You'll need /etc/passwd entries no matter what you do as the PAM spec
specifically states it does not handle uid, gid or home directory
information. So unless you hack popper to get get uids and gids from
somewhere else or give everyone the same uid and gid, you'll have to get
the info from passwd,

Fergal



Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 08:50:23 -0500
From: Mike Nugent <mnugent at goamerica dot net>
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.0b26 available but still no PAM support.  :(

Fergal Daly wrote:
> 
> At 20:40 27/12/99 -0500, Forrest Aldrich wrote:
> >That's sensible, yes.
> >
> >Now a stupid question:  what advantages will we get with integrating PAM
> >with qpopper, especially in a setup that includes an MTA like
> >sendmail.  You will still need /etc/passwd entries for sendmail, unless you
> >hack something else together....
> 
> You'll need /etc/passwd entries no matter what you do as the PAM spec
> specifically states it does not handle uid, gid or home directory
> information. So unless you hack popper to get get uids and gids from
> somewhere else or give everyone the same uid and gid, you'll have to get
> the info from passwd,
> 
> Fergal

Or unless you put the /etc/passwd /etc/shadow info in a different
place...
*pushes his project a bit*
...you know...like a database.

--
Mike Nugent
MMP Maintainer - http://sendmail.jacked-in.org
mike at illuminatus dot org

Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 08:28:42 -0500
From: Forrest Aldrich <forrie at forrie dot com>
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.0b26 available but still no PAM support.  :(

Or use Cyrus :)   hee hee

At 01:34 PM 12/28/99 +0000, Fergal Daly wrote:
>At 20:40 27/12/99 -0500, Forrest Aldrich wrote:
> >That's sensible, yes.
> >
> >Now a stupid question:  what advantages will we get with integrating PAM
> >with qpopper, especially in a setup that includes an MTA like
> >sendmail.  You will still need /etc/passwd entries for sendmail, unless you
> >hack something else together....
>
>You'll need /etc/passwd entries no matter what you do as the PAM spec
>specifically states it does not handle uid, gid or home directory
>information. So unless you hack popper to get get uids and gids from
>somewhere else or give everyone the same uid and gid, you'll have to get
>the info from passwd,
>
>Fergal
>


From: Steven Fletcher <stevenf at shellnet.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Michael Nugents mysql patch
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 17:31:46 -0000

> Also, MySQL is optimised for queries, not inserts/deletions.
> It may not
> be the best engine for this kind of task.
>

In defence, I have a lot of luck with a program that imports what could be
considered the equivalent of an average email in size (thinking of
attachments, too), and it'll deliver at a rate of about 120 per second, with
an auto incrementing column & 2 indexed columns, done with not very
efficient code on my behalf ;-)

Of course, I'll be trying it out good & proper first, to see how well or not
things go.

Steven Fletcher
stevenf at shellnet.co dot uk


From: Dana Basken <dana at basken dot com>
Subject: Experimental smtp-after-pop patch for 2.53
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 14:47:21 -0500 (EST)

Hello,

I've made a patch against qpopper2.53 that provides direct enabling of smtp
after a user authenticates via qpopper.  By "direct" I mean the access.db
database that Sendmail uses is updated (using Berkeley DB routines).  This
bypasses the need to parse a log file entry and should prove to be more
efficient.

If you are interested in trying this out, grab the tar file from:

    http://www.netsuck.com

Note that this preliminary version is built for my configuration, namely a
Linux box running Sendmail 8.10beta10 and Berkeley DB 2.77.  It also requires
that Sendmail is using the access.db database.  See the included README file
for more information.

If there's interest in this, I'll work on fleshing out the implementation.

Thanks,

- Dana


From: Dana Basken <dana at basken dot com>
Subject: Re: Experimental smtp-after-pop patch for 2.53
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 16:20:32 -0500 (EST)

Jay,

Thanks.  Currently, the expiration is handled with a hard-coded timeout value.
Every time someone authenticates with qpopper, the list of IPs is scanned and
any stale entries are removed.  I've toyed with having an external utility
that handles expiring the IPs (something that could be called from cron, for
example).

As for customized 550 messages, if you want just a single customized message
for all 550's, then I'll probably make a command-line option for qpopper to
allow you to specify that message.  Otherwise, I'll have to implement some
kind of config file.

Also, I'm assuming that I'll have to create one or more --enable-xx options
to configure so that the location of the databases can be specified, and
possibly some non-Sendmail options (although I only have experience with
Sendmail for an smtp server).

I'm definitely looking for ideas to expand this, so fire away.

- Dana


>     I would be interested in seeing this developed further.  I currently use
> the perl/logfile/etc hack.  Your implementation looks much cleaner.  I am
> curious to see how you will do certain things, such as removing stale IPs
> from the access DB, allowing a customized 550 message, how it will co-exist,
> etc.
> 
> Thanks
> Jay Ribak
> 
> From: Dana Basken <dana at basken dot com>
> 
> >I've made a patch against qpopper2.53 that provides direct enabling of smtp
> >after a user authenticates via qpopper.  By "direct" I mean the access.db
> >database that Sendmail uses is updated (using Berkeley DB routines).  This
> >bypasses the need to parse a log file entry and should prove to be more
> >efficient.
> >
> >If you are interested in trying this out, grab the tar file from:
> >
> >    http://www.netsuck.com

Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 13:20:06 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: RE: Michael Nugents mysql patch

On Tue, 28 Dec 1999, Steven Fletcher wrote:

> > Also, MySQL is optimised for queries, not inserts/deletions.
> > It may not
> > be the best engine for this kind of task.
> 
> In defence, I have a lot of luck with a program that imports what could be
> considered the equivalent of an average email in size (thinking of
> attachments, too), and it'll deliver at a rate of about 120 per second, with
> an auto incrementing column & 2 indexed columns, done with not very
> efficient code on my behalf ;-)
> 
> Of course, I'll be trying it out good & proper first, to see how well or not
> things go.

One thing to bear in mind is that MySQL usually delays writes and
doesn't fsync after writing. This gains speed at the expense of overall
reliability. Using a uninterruptable power supply is a necessity, not
just a really good idea.

AB



From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Philipp_Gaschütz?=" <philipp at gng dot de>
Subject: RE: Experimental smtp-after-pop patch for 2.53
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 01:23:48 +0100

Hi Dana,

while you`re talking about "firing away" ideas about this:

It`s great the patch you`ve coded!
It might be a nice idea to port it to Exim as well...
(http://www.exim.org)...


great work,

-philipp



> Jay,
>
> Thanks.  Currently, the expiration is handled with a
> hard-coded timeout value.
> Every time someone authenticates with qpopper, the list of IPs
> is scanned and
> any stale entries are removed.  I've toyed with having an
> external utility
> that handles expiring the IPs (something that could be called
> from cron, for
> example).
>
> As for customized 550 messages, if you want just a single
> customized message
> for all 550's, then I'll probably make a command-line option
> for qpopper to
> allow you to specify that message.  Otherwise, I'll have to
> implement some
> kind of config file.
>
> Also, I'm assuming that I'll have to create one or more
> --enable-xx options
> to configure so that the location of the databases can be
> specified, and
> possibly some non-Sendmail options (although I only have
> experience with
> Sendmail for an smtp server).
>
> I'm definitely looking for ideas to expand this, so fire away.
>
> - Dana
>
>
> >     I would be interested in seeing this developed further.
> I currently use
> > the perl/logfile/etc hack.  Your implementation looks much
> cleaner.  I am
> > curious to see how you will do certain things, such as
> removing stale IPs
> > from the access DB, allowing a customized 550 message, how
> it will co-exist,
> > etc.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Jay Ribak
> >
> > From: Dana Basken <dana at basken dot com>
> >
> > >I've made a patch against qpopper2.53 that provides direct
> enabling of smtp
> > >after a user authenticates via qpopper.  By "direct" I mean
> the access.db
> > >database that Sendmail uses is updated (using Berkeley DB
> routines).  This
> > >bypasses the need to parse a log file entry and should
> prove to be more
> > >efficient.
> > >
> > >If you are interested in trying this out, grab the tar file from:
> > >
> > >    http://www.netsuck.com
>


From: "F Boucher" <dziablo at lords dot com>
Subject: How to be removed..
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 10:03:50 -0500

Sorry to bug you, I would simply like to be removed from the qpopper mailing
list please... can somebody tell me how or simply do it for me.  Thanks




Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 07:28:09 -0800 (PST)
From: "Jeremy C. Reed" <reed at wcug.wwu dot edu>
Subject: Re: How to be removed..

On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, F Boucher wrote:

> Sorry to bug you, I would simply like to be removed from the qpopper mailing
> list please... can somebody tell me how or simply do it for me.  Thanks

The headers from qpopper emails show:

List-Unsubscribe: 
<mailto:qpopper-request at lists.pensive dot org?body=unsubscribe>

The Welcome email says:

Should you ever wish to unsubscribe, send the word "unsubscribe" 
(without the quotes) to <qpopper-request at lists.pensive dot org>.

The mailing list has an unsubscribe webpage:

http://www.pensive.org/mailing_lists/QPopper_sub_form.html

  Jeremy C. Reed
....................................................
     BSD software, documentation, resources, news...
     http://bsd.reedmedia.net




Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 10:55:18 -0800
From: Leonard Hermens <Leonard.Hermens at rcity dot com>
Subject: Re: How to be removed..

At 10:03 AM -0500 12/29/99, F Boucher wrote:
>Sorry to bug you, I would simply like to be removed from the qpopper mailing
>list please... can somebody tell me how or simply do it for me.  Thanks

The information is in the headers. Because Outlook clients hide 
(all?) headers by default, users don't get to see them. Yet another 
reason why I don't use Outlook. :-)

-- Leonard

Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 14:23:53 -0500
From: Santiago A Tavares <tavasa at che.ufl dot edu>
Subject: Qpopper gets a relay message from sendmail 8.10

I could not yet identify if the problem is Qpopper or Sendmail

OS: HP-UX 10.20
Sendmail 8.10beta + BerkeleyDB 3.0.55
Qpopper 3.0b.26 (installed using all defaults)
Gnu gcc, make, etc.

On the HP machine (host1):
Using the command line or the HP mail program on the server I can send
and receive mail to/from any domain.

From another computer (A PC with NT4.0 server SP5) using Netscape 4.61 I
can read all received mail from any domain. I can send a mail to a user
that has an account on the mail server (same domain).
But if I send a mail to an user outside the domain I get this message
"an error occurred while sending mail
The mail server responded
5.7.1 <user@domain> relaying denied"

I did a similar installation in another HP-UX 10-20 machine (host2) in
the same domain using Sendmail 8.9.3 and Qpopper 2.53 and everything
worked fine.
The difference between the two cases is:
host2 the DNS constains  IP number   host2.domain
host1 the DNS contains   IP number   host1.domain
and   mail.domain  redirecting to host1.domain to keep the mail server
independent of the IP number

If you have an idea where is the problem, please, help me.

Santiago A Tavares
System Administrator
Chemical Engineering Department
University of Florida


Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 14:21:06 -0500 (EST)
From: Admin Mailing Lists <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
Subject: Re: Qpopper gets a relay message from sendmail 8.10

sendmail. the first host is not set up in the receiving sendmail access
files to relay mail to someone outside its hosted domain. you must put the
host's ip in the sendmail access files.
be wary thought of hosts you allow to relay through, for spam reasons

-Cygnus
.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
Anthony J. Biacco                       Network Administrator/Engineer
admin at intergrafix dot net                    Intergrafix Internet Services

    "Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today"
http://cygnus.ncohafmuta.com                http://www.intergrafix.net
.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.

On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, Santiago A Tavares wrote:

> I could not yet identify if the problem is Qpopper or Sendmail
> 
> OS: HP-UX 10.20
> Sendmail 8.10beta + BerkeleyDB 3.0.55
> Qpopper 3.0b.26 (installed using all defaults)
> Gnu gcc, make, etc.
> 
> On the HP machine (host1):
> Using the command line or the HP mail program on the server I can send
> and receive mail to/from any domain.
> 
> >From another computer (A PC with NT4.0 server SP5) using Netscape 4.61 I
> can read all received mail from any domain. I can send a mail to a user
> that has an account on the mail server (same domain).
> But if I send a mail to an user outside the domain I get this message
> "an error occurred while sending mail
> The mail server responded
> 5.7.1 <user@domain> relaying denied"
> 
> I did a similar installation in another HP-UX 10-20 machine (host2) in
> the same domain using Sendmail 8.9.3 and Qpopper 2.53 and everything
> worked fine.
> The difference between the two cases is:
> host2 the DNS constains  IP number   host2.domain
> host1 the DNS contains   IP number   host1.domain
> and   mail.domain  redirecting to host1.domain to keep the mail server
> independent of the IP number
> 
> If you have an idea where is the problem, please, help me.
> 
> Santiago A Tavares
> System Administrator
> Chemical Engineering Department
> University of Florida
> 


Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 18:59:37 -0500
From: Santiago A Tavares <tavasa at che.ufl dot edu>
Subject: Re: Qpopper gets a relay message from sendmail 8.10

Thanks for your answer
This is what I did after reading your suggestion for a similar case.

using m4 I generated a new xx.cf file using
FEATURE('access_db', `hash /etc/mail/access')

Since I have two network segments I defined my access file as
128.227.121  RELAY
128.227.108  RELAY

using the makemap hash /etc/mail/access </etc/mail/access

the file access.db was generated.

After this I was not able to start sendmail. Checking using

/usr/sbin/sendmail -Csendmail.cf  -bt < /dev/null

I got a message saying that could not find the class hash.

Before installing sendmail I installed the Berkeley data base. I check and
found the file
libdb.a in the BerkeleyDB lib dir. Then I assumed that sendmail would install
NEWDB with hash and btree. But it looks that did not. Although the files
aliases.dir and aliases.pag were created automatically.

As another test, I ran newaliases and got the message

line 123: readcf: map access: class hash not available

I am trying to understand why the class hash not there.
Since BerkeleyDB is there, I assumed that by default the hash class would be
installed




Admin Mailing Lists wrote:

> sendmail. the first host is not set up in the receiving sendmail access
> files to relay mail to someone outside its hosted domain. you must put the
> host's ip in the sendmail access files.
> be wary thought of hosts you allow to relay through, for spam reasons
>
> -Cygnus
> .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
> Anthony J. Biacco                       Network Administrator/Engineer
> admin at intergrafix dot net                    Intergrafix Internet Services
>
>     "Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today"
> http://cygnus.ncohafmuta.com                http://www.intergrafix.net
> .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
>
> On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, Santiago A Tavares wrote:
>
> > I could not yet identify if the problem is Qpopper or Sendmail
> >
> > OS: HP-UX 10.20
> > Sendmail 8.10beta + BerkeleyDB 3.0.55
> > Qpopper 3.0b.26 (installed using all defaults)
> > Gnu gcc, make, etc.
> >
> > On the HP machine (host1):
> > Using the command line or the HP mail program on the server I can send
> > and receive mail to/from any domain.
> >
> > >From another computer (A PC with NT4.0 server SP5) using Netscape 4.61 I
> > can read all received mail from any domain. I can send a mail to a user
> > that has an account on the mail server (same domain).
> > But if I send a mail to an user outside the domain I get this message
> > "an error occurred while sending mail
> > The mail server responded
> > 5.7.1 <user@domain> relaying denied"
> >
> > I did a similar installation in another HP-UX 10-20 machine (host2) in
> > the same domain using Sendmail 8.9.3 and Qpopper 2.53 and everything
> > worked fine.
> > The difference between the two cases is:
> > host2 the DNS constains  IP number   host2.domain
> > host1 the DNS contains   IP number   host1.domain
> > and   mail.domain  redirecting to host1.domain to keep the mail server
> > independent of the IP number
> >
> > If you have an idea where is the problem, please, help me.
> >
> > Santiago A Tavares
> > System Administrator
> > Chemical Engineering Department
> > University of Florida
> >


Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 16:19:39 -0800
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Qpopper 3.0b27 available

Qpopper 3.0b27 is available at 
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/>.

Changes from 3.0b26 to 3.0b27:
------------------------------

  1.  Changed 'if(*p)' to 'if(*p!=0)' in pop_user.c to satisfy
      certain picky compilers.
  2.  Fixed problems on SunOS4 and ar/ranlib.
  3.  Added --enable-bulldb ./configure flag to specify bulletin
      directory and use of bulldb.
  4.  Added --with-new-bulls ./configure flag to specify maximum
      bulletins for new users.
  5.  Fixed syntax problems with bulldb on some platforms.
  6.  Improved error messages in pop_bull.c
  7.  Edited man pages for new settings; clarified some other
      items.
  8.  Fixed syntax errors on AIX systems.
  9.  Added extra trace code to pop_pass.c and pop_bull.c
10.  Fixed potential overwrite of pw_dir in pop_pass.c.
11.  Fixed trace call in genpath.c.
12.  Added --with-pam ./configure flag to use PAM for
      authentication.  Based on patch submitted by German Poo.
13.  Added section to INSTALL on ./configure options.
14.  Removed -fstrength-reduce (included in -o2)
15.  Added check for BSDI-style DBM (BSD44_DBM)
16.  Removed -DBSD, since BSD param.h defines it as year and month
17.  Don't check for gperf in ./configure unless mmangle/etags.c
      doesn't exist.
18.  Bulletin database open now retried if in use.


Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 16:24:49 -0800
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.0b27 available

>  Qpopper 3.0b27 is available at 
> <ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/>.

I suspect this is the last qpopper beta of the 1900s.  (Doesn't that 
make it sound old-fashioned?)

Enjoy.

From: Gplendon at aol dot com
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 21:18:15 EST
Subject: error messages

Hi,

I am running qpopper 2.53.

I sent a mail message and am unsure what the error messages specifically 
mean.  I hope you can help.  

Subject: Returned mail:  Can't create output:  Error 0
The following addresses had permanent fatal errors....
Transcript of session follows:
/var/mail/(username):  Permission denied mail: can not lock on 
   to /var/mail/(username) after 10 tries 550
can't create output:  error 0

From: Gplendon at aol dot com
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 21:20:06 EST
Subject: duplicate message woes

Hello again,

I am using qpopper 2.53 .  My email client (outlook) is set to not leave a 
copy of
mail on the server.  Why (rarely and randomly) does the email application 
retrieve previous mail messages from the spool file account?

Any suggestions on how to correct/prevent would be helpful.

Thank you.

From: Gplendon at aol dot com
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 21:26:22 EST
Subject: (no subject)

Hi,

I am running qpopper 2.53.

I sent a mail message and am unsure what the error messages specifically 
mean.  I should add that the account (username) exists and the permissions 
are the same as all other pop accounts.  I hope you can help.  

Subject: Returned mail:  Can't create output:  Error 0
The following addresses had permanent fatal errors....
Transcript of session follows:
/var/mail/(username):  Permission denied mail: can not lock on 
   to /var/mail/(username) after 10 tries 550
can't create output:  error 0

Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 15:48:34 -0600 (CST)
From: Jason Englander <jason at interl dot net>
Subject: 3.0b28?

I just noticed while going to get b27 that b28 is there...  Is there a
reason why it was not announced?  Just making sure :-)

Changes from 3.0b27 to 3.0b28
-----------------------------

1.  Fixed potential non-terminating loop in pop_dropcopy.c.



-- 
Jason Englander <jason at interl dot net>
Systems Administrator - InterLink L.C.


Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 16:10:45 -0600 (CST)
From: Jason Englander <jason at interl dot net>
Subject: Additional configure flags?

Any chance of adding any of the following configure flags for those of us
that are lazy?  :-)

--enable-nonauthfile=/etc/nonauthfile
  (Adding -DNONAUTHFILE=\"/etc/nonauthfile\" to popper/Makefile's DEFS)

--with-popdropdir=/usr/spool/poptemp
  (changing the path of POP_DROP, POP_TMPDROP, and POP_TMPXMIT in 
  config.h)

--enable-homedirmail=/.mail
  (Updating popper/popper.h to set #define HOMEDIRMAIL "/.mail")


Thanks for an already excellent piece of software.

  Jason

-- 
Jason Englander <jason at interl dot net>
Systems Administrator - InterLink L.C.


Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 14:59:42 -0800
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Qpopper 3.0b28 available

Qpopper 3.0b28 is available at 
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/>.

Because of the potential seriousness, b27 has been removed.

Changes from 3.0b27 to 3.0b28
-----------------------------

1.  Fixed potential non-terminating loop in pop_dropcopy.c.

This is the final Qpopper beta release of the 1900s.  Really.  (Of 
the 1000s, but that doesn't have the same cachet).

Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 15:01:32 -0800
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: duplicate message woes

At 9:20 PM -0500 12/30/99, Gplendon at aol dot com wrote:

>My email client (outlook) is set to not leave a
>copy of
>mail on the server.  Why (rarely and randomly) does the email application
>retrieve previous mail messages from the spool file account?

My guess is that the client has lost track of which UIDs it has 
already downloaded.  Was the client software reinstalled?  You could 
try a different client.

-- 
Randall Gellens
Opinions are personal;    facts are suspect;    I speak for myself only
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The world will end in 5 minutes.  Please log out.

Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 12:52:59 -0600
From: Brent <bierblb at netins dot net>
Subject: capa error

What version is the most stable version you have noticed that would 
take out the CAPA error that I could use?

Thanks

Brent

Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:49:09 -0800
From: Matthew Fillmore <MFillmore at pensive dot org>
Subject: Re: capa error

At 12:52 PM -0600 1/2/00, Brent wrote:

>  What version is the most stable version you have noticed that would 
> take out the CAPA error that I could use?

I think 3.0b28 is fine.  It supports CAPA and fixes a number of bugs.

Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 17:01:14 -0600
From: Brent <bierblb at netins dot net>
Subject: stats

Thanks for the help everyone...one last question, I'm running on 
freebsd, does anyone know of a program that will analyze the maillog 
or popper logs to show usage?

Thanks again!

Brent

From: James Tsang <jtsang at crystal.com dot cn>
Subject: help! help! err=107
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 10:17:37 +0800 

I do not know why I can not establish connection even with -d option.
I chech out all archive, and I can not get answer( somebody encounter
same problem, but no answer and I remember he is SW).
netstat -a|grep pop3
it is said pop3 server is litsening.
but if :
telnet localhost 110
I can not get qpopper prompt.
it is a line in my messages said:
=A0
Jan=A0 3 10:37:59 linux qpopper[628]: Unable to obtain socket and =
address
of client, err = 107
Jan=A0 3 10:37:59 linux inetd[420]: /usr/local/lib/popper: exit status =
0x1
Jan=A0 3 10:38:00 linux inetd[420]: pop3/tcp server failing (looping),
service terminated 
=A0
=A0
=A0
who can help me! or I drown myself. aha!!!!!!
best regards
=A0=A0=A0 James tsang.

From: James Tsang <jtsang at crystal.com dot cn>
Subject: FW: help! help! err=107
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 11:36:44 +0800 

sorry, I need help again.
after I setup nowait.50 and qpopper running,
I can not receive message via outlook express. does I have to combine
~/Mailbox and /var/spool/james together?
or I have to add pop user? how to do ?
thanks very much, I'm newer in this field. 
best regards
	James tsang.


-----Original Message-----
From: Byron Jones [mailto:byron at vianet.net dot au]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 10:26 AM
To: James Tsang
Subject: Re: help! help! err=107 


At 10:17 AM 4/01/00 +0800, you wrote:
>I do not know why I can not establish connection even with -d option.
>I chech out all archive, and I can not get answer( somebody encounter
>same problem, but no answer and I remember he is SW).
>netstat -a|grep pop3
>it is said pop3 server is litsening.
>but if :
>telnet localhost 110
>I can not get qpopper prompt.
>it is a line in my messages said:
>
>Jan  3 10:37:59 linux qpopper[628]: Unable to obtain socket and address
>of client, err = 107
>Jan  3 10:37:59 linux inetd[420]: /usr/local/lib/popper: exit status
0x1
>Jan  3 10:38:00 linux inetd[420]: pop3/tcp server failing (looping),
>service terminated


read the faq.

http://www.eudora.com/qpopper/qpop_faq.html#looping


-- byron jones ----------------------
    systems administrator
    vianet australia
    http://www.vianet.net.au/~byron

From: James Tsang <jtsang at crystal.com dot cn>
Subject: RE: help! help! err=107
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 13:45:34 +0800 

I'm very sorry for I have to need you help again, after ./config
--enable-specialauth .
then vi config.h and change the line POP_MAILDIR from "var/spool/mai" to
"~/Mailbox" then make.
mv to usr/local/lib. kill - HUP, even restart. still can not fetch mail
via outlook express. I try to slove this problem myself. because I
remember an article about qmail work with qpopper, sorry, I can not
solve it. it is true, the client creat drop file "var/spool/mial/.james.
pop", but it still can not fetch mail, I do not know why. could you help
me again.
thanks very much.


-----Original Message-----
From: Byron Jones [mailto:byron at vianet.net dot au]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 11:48 AM
To: James Tsang
Subject: RE: help! help! err=107 


At 11:51 AM 4/01/00 +0800, you wrote:
>I check my mail. it is located in ~/Mailbox, not in
>/var/spool/mail/james (my test account is james). I do not know why I
>can not fetch mail via outlook express. it is always in ~/Mailbox. and
>with pine running Linux can read the mail. do the problem located in
>MDA?

you need to tell qpopper to use ~/Mailbox not /var/spool/mail

run configure, then edit config.h and modify POP_MAILDIR

then make and install

-- byron jones ----------------------
    systems administrator
    vianet australia
    http://www.vianet.net.au/~byron

From: "David Uzzell" <duzzell at 1stpenshurst-scouts.asn dot au>
Subject: Qpopper error with client
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 17:32:43 +1100

I am running the current version of qpopper on FreeBSD with Qmail and am
getting an error with getting mail as follows.
(v2.53) Unable to get canonical name of client, err = 0

It still send my email to MS outlook express and still works etc but does
always comes up with this error.

The other thing is I need to be able to have pop auth for SMTP access with
Qmail. Would anyone know how to do this. Thanks in Advance.
------------------------------------------
FreeBSD is the only
Real OS for Real Users


Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 06:33:56 -0500 (EST)
From: Vince Vielhaber <vev at michvhf dot com>
Subject: RE: help! help! err=107

On Tue, 4 Jan 2000, James Tsang wrote:

> I'm very sorry for I have to need you help again, after ./config
> --enable-specialauth .
> then vi config.h and change the line POP_MAILDIR from "var/spool/mai" to
> "~/Mailbox" then make.
> mv to usr/local/lib. kill - HUP, even restart. still can not fetch mail
> via outlook express. I try to slove this problem myself. because I
> remember an article about qmail work with qpopper, sorry, I can not
> solve it. it is true, the client creat drop file "var/spool/mial/.james.
> pop", but it still can not fetch mail, I do not know why. could you help
> me again.
> thanks very much.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Byron Jones [mailto:byron at vianet.net dot au]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 11:48 AM
> To: James Tsang
> Subject: RE: help! help! err=107 
> 
> 
> At 11:51 AM 4/01/00 +0800, you wrote:
> >I check my mail. it is located in ~/Mailbox, not in
> >/var/spool/mail/james (my test account is james). I do not know why I
> >can not fetch mail via outlook express. it is always in ~/Mailbox. and
> >with pine running Linux can read the mail. do the problem located in
> >MDA?
> 
> you need to tell qpopper to use ~/Mailbox not /var/spool/mail
> 
> run configure, then edit config.h and modify POP_MAILDIR
> 
> then make and install
> 
> -- byron jones ----------------------
>     systems administrator
>     vianet australia
>     http://www.vianet.net.au/~byron
> 

You tell qpopper to use ~/Mailbox in popper/popper.h not in config.h
and the #define you're interested in is HOMEDIRMAIL   The qmail value
is there already, don't change it just uncomment it.  End result should
be this:

#define HOMEDIRMAIL "/Mailbox"

Vince.
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Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 06:43:22 -0500 (EST)
From: Vince Vielhaber <vev at michvhf dot com>
Subject: Re: Qpopper error with client

On Tue, 4 Jan 2000, David Uzzell wrote:

> I am running the current version of qpopper on FreeBSD with Qmail and am
> getting an error with getting mail as follows.
> (v2.53) Unable to get canonical name of client, err = 0
> 
> It still send my email to MS outlook express and still works etc but does
> always comes up with this error.
> 
> The other thing is I need to be able to have pop auth for SMTP access with
> Qmail. Would anyone know how to do this. Thanks in Advance.

I haven't done patches for 3.0 yet, but for 2.53 take a look at David
Harris' smtp-poplock at  http://www.davideous.com/smtp-poplock/  You
won't need to make any changes to any of the qmail sources and only 
add a couple of lines to qpopper.  3.0 won't require any changes when
I do the patches and get them to David.

Vince.
-- 
==========================================================================
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From: James Tsang <jtsang at crystal.com dot cn>
Subject: RE: help! help! err=107
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 21:01:33 +0800 

I can see message in ~/Mailbox, after ./configure --enable-specialauth
and I just uncomment the #define line in popper/popper.h. and make
again, but I can not get message yet. 
even I change 2 file, it is still can not fetched by outlook express.
check messages, it is 0 0 0 0, it seems like the qpopper can not find
mail from ~/Mailbox.
could you help me again?
	thanks very much.
		James Tsang.
-----Original Message-----
From: Vince Vielhaber [mailto:vev at michvhf dot com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 7:34 PM
To: James Tsang
Cc: Byron Jones; Qpopper (¹q¤l¶l¥ó)
Subject: RE: help! help! err=107 


On Tue, 4 Jan 2000, James Tsang wrote:

> I'm very sorry for I have to need you help again, after ./config
> --enable-specialauth .
> then vi config.h and change the line POP_MAILDIR from "var/spool/mai"
to
> "~/Mailbox" then make.
> mv to usr/local/lib. kill - HUP, even restart. still can not fetch
mail
> via outlook express. I try to slove this problem myself. because I
> remember an article about qmail work with qpopper, sorry, I can not
> solve it. it is true, the client creat drop file
"var/spool/mial/.james.
> pop", but it still can not fetch mail, I do not know why. could you
help
> me again.
> thanks very much.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Byron Jones [mailto:byron at vianet.net dot au]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 11:48 AM
> To: James Tsang
> Subject: RE: help! help! err=107 
> 
> 
> At 11:51 AM 4/01/00 +0800, you wrote:
> >I check my mail. it is located in ~/Mailbox, not in
> >/var/spool/mail/james (my test account is james). I do not know why =
I
> >can not fetch mail via outlook express. it is always in ~/Mailbox.
and
> >with pine running Linux can read the mail. do the problem located in
> >MDA?
> 
> you need to tell qpopper to use ~/Mailbox not /var/spool/mail
> 
> run configure, then edit config.h and modify POP_MAILDIR
> 
> then make and install
> 
> -- byron jones ----------------------
>     systems administrator
>     vianet australia
>     http://www.vianet.net.au/~byron
> 

You tell qpopper to use ~/Mailbox in popper/popper.h not in config.h
and the #define you're interested in is HOMEDIRMAIL   The qmail value
is there already, don't change it just uncomment it.  End result should
be this:

#define HOMEDIRMAIL "/Mailbox"

Vince.
-- 
=========================
=========================
=========================

==
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http://www.pop4.net
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=========================
=========================
=========================

==



Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 07:53:02 -0500 (EST)
From: Vince Vielhaber <vev at michvhf dot com>
Subject: RE: help! help! err=107

On Tue, 4 Jan 2000, James Tsang wrote:

> I can see message in ~/Mailbox, after ./configure --enable-specialauth
> and I just uncomment the #define line in popper/popper.h. and make
> again, but I can not get message yet. 
> even I change 2 file, it is still can not fetched by outlook express.
> check messages, it is 0 0 0 0, it seems like the qpopper can not find
> mail from ~/Mailbox.
> could you help me again?
> =09thanks very much.
> =09=09James Tsang.

Put this: POP_MAILDIR  back the way it was originally.  Then make clean
and make.

Vince.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vince Vielhaber [mailto:vev at michvhf dot com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 7:34 PM
> To: James Tsang
> Cc: Byron Jones; Qpopper (¹q¤l¶l¥ó)
> Subject: RE: help! help! err=107 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 4 Jan 2000, James Tsang wrote:
> 
> > I'm very sorry for I have to need you help again, after ./config
> > --enable-specialauth .
> > then vi config.h and change the line POP_MAILDIR from "var/spool/mai"
> to
> > "~/Mailbox" then make.
> > mv to usr/local/lib. kill - HUP, even restart. still can not fetch
> mail
> > via outlook express. I try to slove this problem myself. because I
> > remember an article about qmail work with qpopper, sorry, I can not
> > solve it. it is true, the client creat drop file
> "var/spool/mial/.james.
> > pop", but it still can not fetch mail, I do not know why. could you
> help
> > me again.
> > thanks very much.
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Byron Jones [mailto:byron at vianet.net dot au]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 11:48 AM
> > To: James Tsang
> > Subject: RE: help! help! err=107 
> > 
> > 
> > At 11:51 AM 4/01/00 +0800, you wrote:
> > >I check my mail. it is located in ~/Mailbox, not in
> > >/var/spool/mail/james (my test account is james). I do not know why I
> > >can not fetch mail via outlook express. it is always in ~/Mailbox.
> and
> > >with pine running Linux can read the mail. do the problem located in
> > >MDA?
> > 
> > you need to tell qpopper to use ~/Mailbox not /var/spool/mail
> > 
> > run configure, then edit config.h and modify POP_MAILDIR
> > 
> > then make and install
> > 
> > -- byron jones ----------------------
> >     systems administrator
> >     vianet australia
> >     http://www.vianet.net.au/~byron
> > 
> 
> You tell qpopper to use ~/Mailbox in popper/popper.h not in config.h
> and the #define you're interested in is HOMEDIRMAIL   The qmail value
> is there already, don't change it just uncomment it.  End result should
> be this:
> 
> #define HOMEDIRMAIL "/Mailbox"
> 
> Vince.
> 

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From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Christian_Gnägi?=" <cg at gnasch dot ch>
Subject: Re: Qpopper error with client
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:20:15 +0100

-----Urspr¸ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: David Uzzell <duzzell at 1stpenshurst-scouts.asn dot au>
An: Subscribers of Qpopper <qpopper at lists.pensive dot org>
Datum: Dienstag, 4. Januar 2000 07:37
Betreff: Qpopper error with client


>The other thing is I need to be able to have pop auth for SMTP access with
>Qmail. Would anyone know how to do this. Thanks in Advance.
>------------------------------------------
>FreeBSD is the only
>Real OS for Real Users
>

Hello

You may want to look at these pages:

http://www.cynic.net/~cjs/computer/sendmail/poprelay.html

http://spam.abuse.net/spam/tools/smPbS.html

Works well here with linux.  Pay attention to upper/lower case in patched
qpopper log entries and in the scanaddr-function.

hope this helps.

Christian



From: "Lisa Casey" <lisa at jellico dot com>
Subject: Problem with a virtual domain
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 10:38:59 -0500

Hi,

Hope someone here can help me out with a problem I am having.

We are an ISP. We have a business customer that we host a virtual domain
for. I have set up a virtual user file (/etc/virtusertable)
which contains the following line:

@hardwickclothes.com    hardmail

Things are working fine EXCEPT that all of the incoming mail for
hardwickclothes.com has:  hardmail at hardwickclothes dot com
The purpose of the hardmail account is just to collect mail for that domain.
The business logs onto our server using that account, picks up the incoming
E-mail then distributes it internally. I need to have the To: field of this
E-mail read who the E-mail is really to (i.e.: johndoe at hardwickclothes dot com,
sally at hardwickclothes dot com, etc.) and NOT have the To: field on all of the
incoming E-mail for that domain changed to: hardmail at hardwickclothes dot com

I suspect from my reading that this has something to do with masquerading
and envelopes, but I have no clue as to what I need to change to make their
mail behave like I want it to.

Help please?  :)  Thanks.

Lisa Casey, Webmaster
Interstate 2000, Inc.
lisa at jellico dot com
webmaster at jellico dot com





Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 10:48:51 -0500 (EST)
From: Steven Champeon <schampeo at hesketh dot com>
Subject: Re: Problem with a virtual domain

On Tue, 4 Jan 2000, Lisa Casey wrote:
> @hardwickclothes.com    hardmail
> 
> Things are working fine EXCEPT that all of the incoming mail for
> hardwickclothes.com has:  hardmail at hardwickclothes dot com
> The purpose of the hardmail account is just to collect mail for that domain.
> The business logs onto our server using that account, picks up the incoming
> E-mail then distributes it internally. I need to have the To: field of this
> E-mail read who the E-mail is really to (i.e.: johndoe at hardwickclothes dot com,
> sally at hardwickclothes dot com, etc.) and NOT have the To: field on all of the
> incoming E-mail for that domain changed to: hardmail at hardwickclothes dot com

Have you tried sending mail to <sally at hardwickclothes dot com>? I've been running
virtusertable (sendmail 8.9.3) for several years, and it's never failed to
work that way right out of the box. Catchall aliases shouldn't rewrite the
To: header, ever.

Steve


From: "Lisa Casey" <lisa at jellico dot com>
Subject: Re: Problem with a virtual domain
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 11:04:03 -0500

Hi,

This may be a Sendmail problem that I need to address then? Here is a
portion of my maillog which shows the E-mail coming in to:
hardmail at hardwickclothes dot com

This isn't right, the mail is actually addressed to various
users at hardwickclothes dot com

Jan  4 10:25:58 i2000 sendmail[826]: KAA00823: to=<hardmail at JELLICO dot NET>,
delay=00:00:02, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=local, relay=local, stat=Sent
Jan  4 10:25:59 i2000 sendmail[828]: KAA00828: from=<word at M-W dot COM>,
size=4045, class=0, pri=34045, nrcpts=1,
msgid=<TCPSMTP.19.12.14.2.16.46.2983500983.900179 at copperhill dot com>,
proto=ESMTP, relay=portal.dx.net [199.190.65.2]
Jan  4 10:26:00 i2000 sendmail[829]: KAA00828: to=<hardmail at JELLICO dot NET>,
delay=00:00:02, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=local, relay=local, stat=Sent


Thanks,

Lisa

-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Champeon <schampeo at hesketh dot com>
To: Lisa Casey <lisa at jellico dot com>
Cc: Subscribers of Qpopper <qpopper at lists.pensive dot org>
Date: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: Problem with a virtual domain


>On Tue, 4 Jan 2000, Lisa Casey wrote:
>> @hardwickclothes.com    hardmail
>>
>> Things are working fine EXCEPT that all of the incoming mail for
>> hardwickclothes.com has:  hardmail at hardwickclothes dot com
>> The purpose of the hardmail account is just to collect mail for that
domain.
>> The business logs onto our server using that account, picks up the
incoming
>> E-mail then distributes it internally. I need to have the To: field of
this
>> E-mail read who the E-mail is really to (i.e.:
johndoe at hardwickclothes dot com,
>> sally at hardwickclothes dot com, etc.) and NOT have the To: field on all of the
>> incoming E-mail for that domain changed to: hardmail at hardwickclothes dot com
>
>Have you tried sending mail to <sally at hardwickclothes dot com>? I've been
running
>virtusertable (sendmail 8.9.3) for several years, and it's never failed to
>work that way right out of the box. Catchall aliases shouldn't rewrite the
>To: header, ever.
>
>Steve
>
>
>




From: James Tsang <jtsang at crystal.com dot cn>
Subject: qpopper keep a message
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 01:40:22 +0800 

it is said Qmail need to keep a message include mail fold information.
but after i install qpopper, it was fetched by the client. so how can I
keep that message in Mailbox?
thanks very much.
		James Tsang.

Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 12:47:15 -0500 (EST)
From: Vince Vielhaber <vev at michvhf dot com>
Subject: Re: qpopper keep a message

On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, James Tsang wrote:

> 
> it is said Qmail need to keep a message include mail fold information.
> but after i install qpopper, it was fetched by the client. so how can I
> keep that message in Mailbox?
> thanks very much.
> 		James Tsang.
> 

The one that says 'DO NOT DELETE'?  Ignore it, qmail doesn't need it and
I doubt qpopper does either.

Vince.
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Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 13:15:02 -0500
From: Forrest Aldrich <forrie at forrie dot com>
Subject: Qpopper compile error on b28

This is on FreeBSD-2.2.8:

gcc -c -I.. -I.. -I. -I../mmangle -I../common  -g -O2 -freg-struct-return -DDRAC_AUTH -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -DFREEBSD -DUNIX pop_dropcopy.c -o pop_dropcopy.o
In file included from pop_dropcopy.c:57:
../common/flock.h:18: warning: `LOCK_SH' redefined
/usr/include/fcntl.h:172: warning: this is the location of the previous definition
../common/flock.h:19: warning: `LOCK_EX' redefined
/usr/include/fcntl.h:173: warning: this is the location of the previous definition
../common/flock.h:20: warning: `LOCK_NB' redefined
/usr/include/fcntl.h:174: warning: this is the location of the previous definition
../common/flock.h:21: warning: `LOCK_UN' redefined
/usr/include/fcntl.h:175: warning: this is the location of the previous definition
gcc -c -I.. -I.. -I. -I../mmangle -I../common  -g -O2 -freg-struct-return -DDRAC_AUTH -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -DFREEBSD -DUNIX pop_get_command.c -o pop_get_command.o
gcc -c -I.. -I.. -I. -I../mmangle -I../common  -g -O2 -freg-struct-return -DDRAC_AUTH -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -DFREEBSD -DUNIX pop_get_subcommand.c -o pop_get_subcommand.o
gcc -c -I.. -I.. -I. -I../mmangle -I../common  -g -O2 -freg-struct-return -DDRAC_AUTH -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -DFREEBSD -DUNIX pop_init.c -o pop_init.o
pop_init.c: In function `strdup':
pop_init.c:76: argument `str' doesn't match prototype
/usr/include/string.h:85: prototype declaration
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.




Fix?


Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 13:29:52 -0500 (EST)
From: Vince Vielhaber <vev at michvhf dot com>
Subject: Re: Qpopper compile error on b28

On Tue, 4 Jan 2000, Forrest Aldrich wrote:

> This is on FreeBSD-2.2.8:
> 
> gcc -c -I.. -I.. -I. -I../mmangle -I../common  -g -O2 -freg-struct-return -DDRAC_AUTH -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -DFREEBSD -DUNIX pop_dropcopy.c -o pop_dropcopy.o
> In file included from pop_dropcopy.c:57:
> ../common/flock.h:18: warning: `LOCK_SH' redefined
> /usr/include/fcntl.h:172: warning: this is the location of the previous definition
> ../common/flock.h:19: warning: `LOCK_EX' redefined
> /usr/include/fcntl.h:173: warning: this is the location of the previous definition
> ../common/flock.h:20: warning: `LOCK_NB' redefined
> /usr/include/fcntl.h:174: warning: this is the location of the previous definition
> ../common/flock.h:21: warning: `LOCK_UN' redefined
> /usr/include/fcntl.h:175: warning: this is the location of the previous definition
> gcc -c -I.. -I.. -I. -I../mmangle -I../common  -g -O2 -freg-struct-return -DDRAC_AUTH -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -DFREEBSD -DUNIX pop_get_command.c -o pop_get_command.o
> gcc -c -I.. -I.. -I. -I../mmangle -I../common  -g -O2 -freg-struct-return -DDRAC_AUTH -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -DFREEBSD -DUNIX pop_get_subcommand.c -o pop_get_subcommand.o
> gcc -c -I.. -I.. -I. -I../mmangle -I../common  -g -O2 -freg-struct-return -DDRAC_AUTH -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -DFREEBSD -DUNIX pop_init.c -o pop_init.o
> pop_init.c: In function `strdup':
> pop_init.c:76: argument `str' doesn't match prototype
> /usr/include/string.h:85: prototype declaration
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Fix?
> 
> 

What did you configure with?  I just used ./configure  and made with gmake
and had no problems compiling and running on 2.2.8-RELEASE.

Vince.
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