The qpopper list archive ending on 17 Jan 2000
Topics covered in this issue include:
1. Re: 2 packages, 1 config file
Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:28:00 -0500
2. Re: problem with popper 3.0b28 logging
"Miss Parker" <miss.parker at dialcom.com dot pl>
Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:04:18 +0100
3. Re: problem with popper 3.0b28 logging
"Dan Harkless" <dan-qpopper at dilvish.speed dot net>
Wed, 12 Jan 2000 00:09:22 -0800
4. Re: problem with popper 3.0b28 logging
Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Wed, 12 Jan 2000 21:24:49 +1300 (NZDT)
5. Re: Eudora Site
Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:10:35 -0800
6. Re: Experimental smtp-after-pop patch for 2.53
Jesus Cea Avion <jcea at argo dot es>
Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:25:03 +0100
7. Re: Experimental smtp-after-pop patch for 2.53
Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Thu, 13 Jan 2000 06:39:35 +1300 (NZDT)
8. QPopper and Syslog
Dustin Loftis <DustinL at avatar-cs dot net>
Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:52:39 -0600
9. Re: Experimental smtp-after-pop patch for 2.53
"Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:25:01 -0800
10. Re: Experimental smtp-after-pop patch for 2.53
"Oliver Fleischmann" <ogf at bnv-bamberg dot de>
Thu, 13 Jan 2000 07:44:12 +0100
11. Re: QPopper and Syslog
"Kostas Marneris" <K.Marneris at demokritos dot gr>
Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:10:02 +0200
12. Permissions problems again
"Lisa Casey" <lisa at jellico dot com>
Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:49:01 -0500
13. QPopper and Sendmail 8.9.3 using popauth
Dustin Loftis <DustinL at avatar-cs dot net>
Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:26:29 -0600
14. Re: QPopper and Sendmail 8.9.3 using popauth
Admin Mailing Lists <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:05:27 -0500 (EST)
15. Qpopper-2.53 unable to recognize my /home/user/Mailbox
"penda paul" <paul_penda at hotmail dot com>
Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:59:30 PST
16. Qpopper unable to recognize my /home/user/Mailbox
"penda paul" <paul_penda at hotmail dot com>
Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:09:45 PST
17. RE: Qpopper unable to recognize my /home/user/Mailbox
Vince Vielhaber <vev at michvhf dot com>
Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:24:01 -0500 (EST)
18. Qpopper Newbie
Andy <war1 at jps dot net>
Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:53:08 -0800
19. RE: Qpopper Newbie
"Benjamin Hyatt" <benski at pacbell dot net>
Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:20:50 -0800
20. Re: Qpopper Newbie
Andy <war1 at jps dot net>
Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:50:37 -0800
21. Re: permission question
Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:19:55 -0800
22. Re: Qpopper Newbie
Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:22:57 -0800
23. Re: Permissions problems again
"Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Thu, 13 Jan 2000 18:00:09 -0800
24. REPOST : qpopper 2.53 and residual files
Gildas PERROT <perrot at FranceNet dot fr>
Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:24:31 +0100
25. Re: REPOST : qpopper 2.53 and residual files
Fergal Daly <fergal at esatclear dot ie>
Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:01:42 +0000
26. binary size and performance
"Jeremy C. Reed" <reed at wcug.wwu dot edu>
Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:20:27 -0800 (PST)
27. authentification / check ip
hypnose at t-online dot de (guenter wessling)
Thu, 15 Jan 1998 00:33:40 +0100
28. turn off hostname -R not working
Jeff Halper <jeff at ihot dot com>
Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:27:21 -0800
29. popbull error
"Mike McKeage" <mckeage at ebtech dot net>
Fri, 14 Jan 2000 18:55:45 -0500
30. Re: authentification / check ip
Fergal Daly <fergal at esatclear dot ie>
Sat, 15 Jan 2000 01:42:31 +0000
31. Re: popbull error
Fergal Daly <fergal at esatclear dot ie>
Sat, 15 Jan 2000 01:52:58 +0000
32. twinkies
"Mike McKeage" <mckeage at ebtech dot net>
Fri, 14 Jan 2000 21:17:46 -0500
33. Re: turn off hostname -R not working
Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Sat, 15 Jan 2000 00:50:47 -0800
34. Re: popbull error
Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Sat, 15 Jan 2000 00:55:28 -0800
35. RE: twinkies
Steven Fletcher <stevenf at shellnet.co dot uk>
Sun, 16 Jan 2000 17:05:19 -0000
36. twinky / apop
hypnose at t-online dot de (guenter wessling)
Sun, 16 Jan 2000 19:43:02 +0100
37. Re: twinky / apop
Leonard Hermens <Leonard.Hermens at rcity dot com>
Sun, 16 Jan 2000 15:11:28 -0800
38. Re: twinky / apop
Gerhard Gonter <gonter at maestria.wu-wien.ac dot at>
Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:43:24 +0100 (MEZ)
39. Re: apop / shared mailbox
hypnose at t-online dot de (guenter wessling)
Mon, 17 Jan 2000 02:52:26 +0100
40. Qpopper 3.0b29 available
Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Sun, 16 Jan 2000 18:56:54 -0800
41. web interface
James Tsang <jtsang at crystal.com dot cn>
Mon, 17 Jan 2000 15:14:56 +0800
42. Bugs in Qpopper 3.0b29
Marc.Romero at ibpc dot fr (Marc ROMERO)
Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:34:30 -0100 (GMT)
43. POP-before-SMTP or SMTP AUTH
Balgansuren <balgaa at publica.ub.mng dot net>
Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:30:32 -0800 (GMT)
44. Re: POP-before-SMTP or SMTP AUTH
"A. M. Salim" <salim at localweb dot com>
Mon, 17 Jan 2000 08:59:54 -0500 (EST)
45. Re: authentification / check ip
Admin Mailing Lists <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:08:25 -0500 (EST)
46. Re: web interface
"Jack Barnett" <jbarnett at axil.netmate dot com>
Mon, 17 Jan 2000 08:37:02 -0600
47. Re: authentification / check ip
Fergal Daly <fergal at esatclear dot ie>
Mon, 17 Jan 2000 15:20:39 +0000
48. Re: Bugs in Qpopper 3.0b29
Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:54:26 -0800
49. problems compiling 3.0b29
"Benjamin Hyatt" <benski at pacbell dot net>
Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:20:43 -0800
50. Re: authentification / check ip
hypnose at t-online dot de (guenter wessling)
Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:46:03 +0100
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:28:00 -0500
From: Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
Subject: Re: 2 packages, 1 config file
On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 11:07:30PM -0800, Kenneth Porter wrote:
> As a packaging design decision, should qpopper provide its own unique
> PAM file, or should it recycle the perfectly-good imap-provided one if
> it's present? Qpopper shouldn't require the installation of imap.
>
> I suppose another approach is for qpopper to provide a uniquely-named
> config file, and the post-install can replace it with imap's if imap's
> file is present and qpopper's file hasn't been edited.
>
> [I'm cc'ing this to the qpopper and PAM mailing lists to solicit the
> opinions of current PAM users. I expect that qpopper, PAM, and RPM
> users/developers will all have useful insights into the issue.]
Ah, so I have it in two places. ;-/
PAM requires a separate authentication file for each unique service.
What is to be determined is whether 'ipop3d' and 'qpopper' are two
unique services. Presumably, somebody could want them to be; but I
think the more reasonable aproach is, no, you want the same set of
authorization steps for any daemon which serves POP3. You might
include instructions on how to modify the daemon to use a different
file [e.g., "qpopper"] for anyone who wants to do so.
Fair?
--
Joe Yao jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov - Joseph S. D. Yao
COSPO/OSIS Computer Support EMT-B
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From: "Miss Parker" <miss.parker at dialcom.com dot pl>
Subject: Re: problem with popper 3.0b28 logging
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:04:18 +0100
exactly, Linux...
so my next question what to do to make qpopper to log into /var/log/messages
or some other file, instead of /var/log/maillog?
thanks
-----------
Miss Parker
> Are you by any chance running Linux? With the integration of the PAM
patch
> there is every chance you will now find the messages in /var/log/maillog
>
> Regards
>
> Jon
>
> Miss Parker wrote:
>
> > the problem is that it doesn't log anything to the syslog
> > (/var/log/messages)
> > when I downgraded to the previous b26 it (3.0b26) logs connections
again...
> >
> > what's wrong?
>
> --
> Jonathan Benson
> Systems Administrator
> Ocean Internet
> http://www.ocean.com.au/
>
>
>
From: "Dan Harkless" <dan-qpopper at dilvish.speed dot net>
Subject: Re: problem with popper 3.0b28 logging
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 00:09:22 -0800
"Miss Parker" <miss.parker at dialcom.com dot pl> writes:
> exactly, Linux...
> so my next question what to do to make qpopper to log into /var/log/messages
> or some other file, instead of /var/log/maillog?
Nothing to do with Qpopper (other than the choice of what facility it logs
to). The choice of what log messages go to what files is handled by
/etc/syslog.conf (at least on every UNIX I've ever used -- I'm not really a
Linux expert).
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 21:24:49 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: problem with popper 3.0b28 logging
On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Miss Parker wrote:
> exactly, Linux...
> so my next question what to do to make qpopper to log into /var/log/messages
> or some other file, instead of /var/log/maillog?
Change the syslog channel defines.
With default linux setup this works for me:
#local0.=debug -/var/adm/popper/popper.debug
local0.=info -/var/adm/popper/popper.log
local0.=notice -/var/adm/popper/popper.notice
local0.=err -/var/adm/popper/popper.err
local0.=warn -/var/adm/popper/popper.warn
local0.=crit -/var/adm/popper/popper.crit
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:10:35 -0800
From: Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Subject: Re: Eudora Site
At 2:06 PM -0600 1/11/00, John Romero wrote:
> is there some reason the Qualcomm Qpopper site on the internet is
> unreachable?
> I also tried ftp, but the directories wouldn't display either.
I just tried the Qpopper home page, at
<http://www.eudora.com/qpopper/index.html>, and it displays fine. I
also tried the FTP site, at
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/> and it seems to
be OK as well.
--
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:25:03 +0100
From: Jesus Cea Avion <jcea at argo dot es>
Subject: Re: Experimental smtp-after-pop patch for 2.53
> I've made a patch against qpopper2.53 that provides direct enabling of
> smtp after a user authenticates via qpopper.
Nice.
But I was wondering if anybody had done a general authentication
procedure, like RADIUS sort of, but using POP3 o web forms.
Example:
a) An user authenticates himself/herself using his/her POP3 account.
b) The POP server contacts an authentication server and marks the
client IP with the username and a TTL (time to live) value.
c) Now the user tries to send an email. The SMTP server contacts the
authentication server asking for the IP credentials.
d) The client tries to use the News server. The server asks for
permission to the authentication server.
e) The client tries to use the IRC server. The same procedure.
f) The client tries to use a web caché. The same procedure.
g) etc.
That is, I'd like a general auth server updated from POP3, CGI's, etc.
and used by other servers like IRC, News, cache, SMTP...
Perhaps a nice and useful project to start up.
What do you think?
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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 06:39:35 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: Experimental smtp-after-pop patch for 2.53
On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Jesus Cea Avion wrote:
> But I was wondering if anybody had done a general authentication
> procedure, like RADIUS sort of, but using POP3 o web forms.
http://mail.cc.umanitoba.ca/drac/ should be adaptable for this purpose.
AB
From: Dustin Loftis <DustinL at avatar-cs dot net>
Subject: QPopper and Syslog
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:52:39 -0600
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Could someone advise me as to how to change syslog facilities within Syslog?
I'd like to log to Local5 or Local6.
The ultimate goal is to have one syslog logfile containing ONLY QPopper
information. If you can recommend a better way than changing facilities,
please feel free to tell me!
Thanks in advance!
Dustin Loftis, MCP, MCT
Internet Systems Administrator
Avatar Computer Solutions, Inc.
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From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:25:01 -0800
Subject: Re: Experimental smtp-after-pop patch for 2.53
Doesn't PAM do that? You'd need to add an appropriate module to
popper's PAM service file. That would work for plaintext passwords if
you enable PAM support. APOP passwords go through a different path, not
through PAM, so the APOP logic in qpopper might need to be changed.
On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:25:03 +0100, Jesus Cea Avion wrote (on qpopper
list):
>> I've made a patch against qpopper2.53 that provides direct enabling o=
f
>> smtp after a user authenticates via qpopper.
>
>Nice.
>
>But I was wondering if anybody had done a general authentication
>procedure, like RADIUS sort of, but using POP3 o web forms.
>
>Example:
>
>a) An user authenticates himself/herself using his/her POP3 account.
>
>b) The POP server contacts an authentication server and marks the
> client IP with the username and a TTL (time to live) value.
>
>c) Now the user tries to send an email. The SMTP server contacts the
> authentication server asking for the IP credentials.
>
>d) The client tries to use the News server. The server asks for
> permission to the authentication server.
>
>e) The client tries to use the IRC server. The same procedure.
>
>f) The client tries to use a web cach‚. The same procedure.
>
>g) etc.
>
>That is, I'd like a general auth server updated from POP3, CGI's, etc.
>and used by other servers like IRC, News, cache, SMTP...
Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
http://www.215Now.com/
From: "Oliver Fleischmann" <ogf at bnv-bamberg dot de>
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 07:44:12 +0100
Subject: Re: Experimental smtp-after-pop patch for 2.53
Hi!
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Jesus Cea Avion wrote:
>
> > But I was wondering if anybody had done a general authentication
> > procedure, like RADIUS sort of, but using POP3 o web forms.
>
> http://mail.cc.umanitoba.ca/drac/ should be adaptable for this purpose.
Yes, we use that here and it does a good job. Any chances that the
"drac" patches get integrated directly into qpopper 3 at some time?
Bye
Oliver
--
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ogf at bnv-bamberg dot de
From: "Kostas Marneris" <K.Marneris at demokritos dot gr>
Subject: Re: QPopper and Syslog
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:10:02 +0200
You have to change the facility in popper.h file:
# define POP_FACILITY LOG_LOCAL1
you also have to add the following line in your syslog.conf file:
# POP Server logging
local1.notice /var/log/poplog
Hope it helps you...
This works well in my system.
Kostas
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NCSR Demokritos / ARIADNE Network Operation Center
E-mail : K.Marneris at demokritos dot gr
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From: Dustin Loftis <DustinL at avatar-cs dot net>
To: Subscribers of Qpopper <qpopper at lists.pensive dot org>
Date: ðÏ•ÙÁ, 13 Š·ÌÔž·ÒþÔž 2000 12:58 •Ï
Subject: QPopper and Syslog
Could someone advise me as to how to change syslog facilities within
Syslog? I'd like to log to Local5 or Local6.
The ultimate goal is to have one syslog logfile containing ONLY QPopper
information. If you can recommend a better way than changing facilities,
please feel free to tell me!
Thanks in advance!
Dustin Loftis, MCP, MCT
Internet Systems Administrator
Avatar Computer Solutions, Inc.
(281) 999-1300 x106
From: "Lisa Casey" <lisa at jellico dot com>
Subject: Permissions problems again
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:49:01 -0500
Hi,
I was running out of space on my /var directory. I have plenty of space on
/usr, so I moved /var to /usr by using the following commands:
# mkdir /usr/var
# cd /var
# tar cf - . | (cd /usr/var; tar xf - )
# rm -rf /var
# ln -s /usr/var /var
Now all of my customers are getting the error: Unable to open temporary
file, do you own it?
I adjusted the permissions according to the qpopper FAQ:
chmod a=trwx usr/var/mail
chmod u=rw,go-rwx usr/var/mail/*
But everyone is still getting the "Unable to open temporary file, do you own
it?" message.
I need to fix this fast! What have I done wrong?
Thanks,
Lisa Casey, Webmaster
Interstate 2000, Inc.
lisa at jellico dot com
webmaster at jellico dot com
From: Dustin Loftis <DustinL at avatar-cs dot net>
Subject: QPopper and Sendmail 8.9.3 using popauth
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:26:29 -0600
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I need some assistance... would anyone have a working sendmail.cf they could
show me that uses the popauth config, and works with 8.9.3?
Thanks!
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Internet Systems Administrator
Avatar Computer Solutions, Inc.
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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:05:27 -0500 (EST)
From: Admin Mailing Lists <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
Subject: Re: QPopper and Sendmail 8.9.3 using popauth
# In the beginning..
F{LocalIP} /etc/mail/localip
F{BackupMX} /etc/mail/backupmx
Kpopauth hash /etc/mail/popauth
# In the rulesets section..
Scheck_rcpt
# make sure you have TABs here, not BLANKs! sendmail will complain
# otherwise...
# first: get client addr
R$+ $: $(dequote "" $&{client_addr} $) $| $1
R0 $| $* $@ OK no client addr: directly
R$={LocalIP}$* $| $* $@ OK from here
# not local, check rcpt
R$* $| $* $: $>3 $2
#
# remove local part, maybe repeatedly
R$+ $:$>remove_local $1
# still something left?
R$*<@$*>$* $: $(popauth $&{client_addr} $) # OK
ROK $@ OK
R$&{client_addr} $#error $@ 5.5.0 $: "550 Relaying Denied: Auth1
R$*<@$*>$* $#error $@ 5.5.0 $: "550 Relaying Denied: Auth2
Sremove_local
R$*<@$*$={BackupMX}.>$* $>3 $1 $4
R$*<@$=w.>$* $: $>remove_local $>3 $1 $3
R$*<@$*>$* $@ $1<@$2>$3
# dequote local part
R$- $: $>3 $(dequote $1 $)
R$*<@$*>$* $: $>remove_local $1<@$2>$3
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Dustin Loftis wrote:
> I need some assistance... would anyone have a working sendmail.cf they could
> show me that uses the popauth config, and works with 8.9.3?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dustin Loftis, MCP, MCT
> Internet Systems Administrator
> Avatar Computer Solutions, Inc.
> (281) 999-1300 x106
>
>
>
From: "penda paul" <paul_penda at hotmail dot com>
Subject: Qpopper-2.53 unable to recognize my /home/user/Mailbox
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:59:30 PST
Hi,
How to configure Qpopper-2.53 under Qmail-1.03 to learn
that incoming mails are stored in /home/user/Mailbox,
not in /var/spool/mail/user as it is usually ?
Regards.
Paul
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From: "penda paul" <paul_penda at hotmail dot com>
Subject: Qpopper unable to recognize my /home/user/Mailbox
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:09:45 PST
How to configure Qpopper-2.53 under Qmail-1.03 to learn
that incoming mails are stored in /home/user/Mailbox,
not in /var/spool/mail/user as it is usually ?
Regards.
Paul
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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:24:01 -0500 (EST)
From: Vince Vielhaber <vev at michvhf dot com>
Subject: RE: Qpopper unable to recognize my /home/user/Mailbox
On 13-Jan-00 penda paul wrote:
> How to configure Qpopper-2.53 under Qmail-1.03 to learn
> that incoming mails are stored in /home/user/Mailbox,
> not in /var/spool/mail/user as it is usually ?
Apply the patch located at http://www.qmail.org
Vince.
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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:53:08 -0800
From: Andy <war1 at jps dot net>
Subject: Qpopper Newbie
Greetings all, new to the list and I am also a Linux newbie. I am
attempting to install qpopper on my Linux server for a private email server
on a LAN.
I have gotten as far as being able to: TELNET <pop3 server> pop3 and got
the correct response according to he INSTALL file.
Now, I am stuck. My email application (From LAN Win98 machine) can't seem
to authenticate. Please advise. Also, I don't know how I did my subscribe
for this list, so I don't know if I can ask for those that can help to email
me directly?
-Andy Wood
war1 at jps dot net
From: "Benjamin Hyatt" <benski at pacbell dot net>
Subject: RE: Qpopper Newbie
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:20:50 -0800
Hi,
Would you be able to enlighten us with a little more info?
What compile options did you enable during ./configure?
(This will help alot)
qpopper-request at lists.pensive dot org is the email address to
subscribe|unsubscribe
{Ben}
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy [mailto:war1 at jps dot net]
> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 3:53 PM
> To: Subscribers of Qpopper
> Subject: Qpopper Newbie
>
>
> Greetings all, new to the list and I am also a Linux newbie. I am
> attempting to install qpopper on my Linux server for a private
> email server
> on a LAN.
>
> I have gotten as far as being able to: TELNET <pop3 server> pop3 and got
> the correct response according to he INSTALL file.
>
> Now, I am stuck. My email application (From LAN Win98 machine) can't seem
> to authenticate. Please advise. Also, I don't know how I did my
> subscribe
> for this list, so I don't know if I can ask for those that can
> help to email
> me directly?
>
> -Andy Wood
> war1 at jps dot net
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:50:37 -0800
From: Andy <war1 at jps dot net>
Subject: Re: Qpopper Newbie
I apologize for that, This is what I did:
./configure
make
I was following the INSTALL pretty much to the letter, and this is for
version 2.53
----- Original Message -----
From: "Benjamin Hyatt" <benski at pacbell dot net>
To: "Andy" <war1 at jps dot net>; "Subscribers of Qpopper"
<qpopper at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 4:20 PM
Subject: RE: Qpopper Newbie
> Hi,
>
> Would you be able to enlighten us with a little more info?
>
> What compile options did you enable during ./configure?
> (This will help alot)
>
> qpopper-request at lists.pensive dot org is the email address to
> subscribe|unsubscribe
>
> {Ben}
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andy [mailto:war1 at jps dot net]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 3:53 PM
> > To: Subscribers of Qpopper
> > Subject: Qpopper Newbie
> >
> >
> > Greetings all, new to the list and I am also a Linux newbie. I am
> > attempting to install qpopper on my Linux server for a private
> > email server
> > on a LAN.
> >
> > I have gotten as far as being able to: TELNET <pop3 server> pop3 and
got
> > the correct response according to he INSTALL file.
> >
> > Now, I am stuck. My email application (From LAN Win98 machine) can't
seem
> > to authenticate. Please advise. Also, I don't know how I did my
> > subscribe
> > for this list, so I don't know if I can ask for those that can
> > help to email
> > me directly?
> >
> > -Andy Wood
> > war1 at jps dot net
>
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:19:55 -0800
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: permission question
At 10:14 PM -0800 1/10/00, Ying-Hung Chen wrote:
> the message says it can't creat <user>.pop file in
> /var/spool/mail , my question is, does it mean that I must make the
> /var/spool/mail global writable? which is a bit odd since popper it self
> is running as root (running out of inetd.conf).
Qpopper gives up its root privileges and runs as the user.
My suggestion would be to make /var/spool/mail 1777, that is,
'rwxrwxrwt'. This makes it read/write/searchable by everyone, but
also sets the sticky bit, so that users can only delete/move/rename
their own files.
Since the spool file for each user is owned by that user, only that
user can read it, so you are OK.
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:22:57 -0800
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Qpopper Newbie
At 4:50 PM -0800 1/13/00, Andy wrote:
> This is what I did:
>
> ./configure
> make
>
> I was following the INSTALL pretty much to the letter, and this is for
> version 2.53
Since you are on Linux, my advice is to upgrade to qpopper 3.0b28 (or
later when available), and add '--enable-specialauth' to the
'./configure' line, since you are almost certainly using shadow
passwords.
From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 18:00:09 -0800
Subject: Re: Permissions problems again
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:49:01 -0500, Lisa Casey wrote:
> # mkdir /usr/var
> # cd /var
> # tar cf - . | (cd /usr/var; tar xf - )
> # rm -rf /var
> # ln -s /usr/var /var
Do you have a backup from before this? Run restore -i and look at the
permissions on the directories before the move.
I did something similar, but I didn't rm the old directory, just moved
it to var.old. I could then wait to see if Something Bad happened (and
it did, just as in your case), and I then had the old tree to compare
against.
What platform are you using? On my RH6.1 system, /var/spool/mail has
permissions drwxrwxr-x, and ownership root.mail.
Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
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Subject: REPOST : qpopper 2.53 and residual files
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:24:31 +0100
From: Gildas PERROT <perrot at FranceNet dot fr>
Hi,
I am running qpopper 2.53 and sendmail 8.9.3 on Solaris 2.6 and I found that
sometimes files of zero or two characters are left in mailspool. Those files
are named loginXXXXX with XXXXXX, 6 randoms characters.
-rw------- 1 elsa mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./elsa0D4pzM
-rw------- 1 elsa mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./elsaBByDq_
-rw------- 1 elsa mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./elsaAwhrM_
-rw------- 1 perrot mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./perrot98_YX_
-rw------- 1 nemo mail 2 Jan 1 04:22 ./nemo0Am.64
-rw------- 1 benizry mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./benizry0jCT6_
-rw------- 1 benizry mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./benizry0q1DfW
-rw------- 1 nemo mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./nemogXmog_
-rw------- 1 benizry mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./benizrya3Scw_
-rw------- 1 nemo mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./nemoQpo6Y_
-rw------- 1 benizry mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./benizry0QIMBA
-rw------- 1 benizry mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./benizry0.T_kx
-rw------- 1 nemo mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./nemo02HDuJ
-rw------- 1 nemo mail 2 Jan 1 04:39 ./nemoOWRGF_
Any idea about that problem ? Thanks in advance for your help.
Gildas.
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:01:42 +0000
From: Fergal Daly <fergal at esatclear dot ie>
Subject: Re: REPOST : qpopper 2.53 and residual files
Gildas PERROT wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am running qpopper 2.53 and sendmail 8.9.3 on Solaris 2.6 and I found that
> sometimes files of zero or two characters are left in mailspool. Those files
> are named loginXXXXX with XXXXXX, 6 randoms characters.
>
> -rw------- 1 elsa mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./elsa0D4pzM
> -rw------- 1 elsa mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./elsaBByDq_
> -rw------- 1 elsa mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./elsaAwhrM_
> -rw------- 1 perrot mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./perrot98_YX_
> -rw------- 1 nemo mail 2 Jan 1 04:22 ./nemo0Am.64
> -rw------- 1 benizry mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./benizry0jCT6_
> -rw------- 1 benizry mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./benizry0q1DfW
> -rw------- 1 nemo mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./nemogXmog_
> -rw------- 1 benizry mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./benizrya3Scw_
> -rw------- 1 nemo mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./nemoQpo6Y_
> -rw------- 1 benizry mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./benizry0QIMBA
> -rw------- 1 benizry mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./benizry0.T_kx
> -rw------- 1 nemo mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./nemo02HDuJ
> -rw------- 1 nemo mail 2 Jan 1 04:39 ./nemoOWRGF_
>
> Any idea about that problem ? Thanks in advance for your help.
I think it has nothing to do with popper, procmail does this sort of
thing when it has unsolvable trouble writing to someone's mail spool.
Maybe whatever mail delivery program you're using does this too,
Fergal
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:20:27 -0800 (PST)
From: "Jeremy C. Reed" <reed at wcug.wwu dot edu>
Subject: binary size and performance
I have been using version 2.2-krb-IV (came with BSDI's BSD/OS 3.1) for a
long time. Now I am testing version 3.0b28 (on a different port) and it
seems to work good.
But after stripping my new popper it is still a lot larger:
# ls -l /usr/libexec/popper /usr/src/pop3d/qpopper3.0b28/popper/popper
-r-xr-xr-x 1 bin bin 73728 Dec 29 1998 /usr/libexec/popper
-rwxr-xr-x 1 jcr wheel 290816 Jan 14 15:14
/usr/src/pop3d/qpopper3.0b28/popper/popper
Will this cause any noticable performance problems?
(I compiled with --enable-servermode; the old popper is using the -S for
servermode.)
Thanks,
Jeremy C. Reed
http://www.reedmedia.net
http://bsd.reedmedia.net
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 00:33:40 +0100
From: hypnose at t-online dot de (guenter wessling)
Subject: authentification / check ip
Hi, all.
A late happy new year.
Problem: mail access not depending on PAP-access.
I´m running a dial-in-server-network, linux 2.0.36, I386.
Two mail servers: popper 2.5.3 on one, 3.0.XX on the other.
Ev´thing perfectly well (after all your help, especially from Mr. G.).
What I have:
Auth procedure: ppp-PAP with login / PAPpass.
Each user is assigned one specific, non-changing IP-address. On purpose.
Thereafter mail auth with login / mailpass.
Mail-password different from PAP-Password.
Interesting: after PAP-login as "user1@server dot mine" I cannot only check
mail of "user1", but also of "user2" and all the others - if I use their
mail-passwords, of course.
So: one PAP-authentification gains access to system "in general".
This way, "user1" with IP 12.12.12.12 can gain access to mail of, let´s sa=
y
"user2" and "user3", and there will be no way to determine that user2/3´s
mail has been accessed by someone else.
What I want:
Is there a way that popper can lookup if the IP of the user accessing mail
is "correct" ? Will say can I establish an IP-lookup of "user1" *and*
somehow compare this IP to the PAP-assigned one ?
And, furthermore, can I restrict access to mail not only to correct
password but also to correct IP ?
To make it clear:
dial in: *user1* ... PAP-auth ... IP 12.12.12.12 ...
accessing mail of *user1*:
check mail-password ... ok ... lookup IP of mail-loginname: 12.12.12.12 ...
compare looked-up-IP 12.12.12.12 to PAP-IP 12.12.12.12 ... OK ...
access granted ... mail given.
accessing mail of *user2*:
check mail-password ... ok ... lookup IP of mail-loginname: 12.12.12.13 ...
compare looked-up-IP 12.12.12.13 to PAP-IP 12.12.12.12 ... FAIL ...
access denied.
Thank you,
Günter
:) have a nice day - alles Gute - :)
Guenter Wessling (hypnose at t-online dot de)
- Westfalian Society of Hypnosis -
- Westfaelische Gesellschaft fuer Hypnose -
48165 Muenster, Germany
fax: 0049 (0)2501 27273=09
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:27:21 -0800
From: Jeff Halper <jeff at ihot dot com>
Subject: turn off hostname -R not working
Using qpopper 3.0b28 on Redhat 6.0 and 6.1, using .configure
--enable-servermode
Clients from addresses that are NOT properly reverse-mapped are being
denied connection - how can I turn this off?
using the -R option in the POP3 line of inetd doesnt work.
-Jeff
From: "Mike McKeage" <mckeage at ebtech dot net>
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 18:55:45 -0500
Subject: popbull error
Good Day
I am new to this list, and have recently installed qpopper 3.0b25
I have it running on Mandrake (RedHat) Linux along with
sendmail/procmail, and all is basically ok.
I am getting many of these errors in /var/log/messages , and want
to eliminate them.
I think the errors are because many of the users do not have a
home directory.
Can you tell me how to eliminate the errors without recompiling?
These are the errors:
Jan 14 18:37:02 mailwest popper[6328]: Unable to create .popbull
file (2)
Jan 14 18:41:22 mailwest popper[6802]: Unable to create .popbull
file (13)
Thank you.
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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 01:42:31 +0000
From: Fergal Daly <fergal at esatclear dot ie>
Subject: Re: authentification / check ip
Sounds like you want popper to talk to your dial in authentication service
so that it can verify that mail user1 is also dialin user1. Depending on
what is doing the dialin auth, this should be possible, many systems can be
queried using SNMP eg cisco/livingstone routers and probably most other
brands of hardware.
If I was doing it I make a qpopper that knows what IP addresses go with
what routers then, when you see a connection from 12.12.12.12 qpopper can
think to itself that's modem bank 2 so I better send an SNMP query to get
the username. In fact I do that for some cgi scripts already but I use perl
for it and even then it's a bit messy. I have a patch for an older version
of qpopper that allows you do authentication checking by running a program
or script every time someone logs in, that way you can keep the nasty SNMP
code in a friendly language like perl or python. If you don't get a better
offer I can send you the patch and the perl I use for turning an IP address
into a username.
On a slightly off topic note, does anyone know an SNMP query for a Cisco
AS5300 that will turn an IP address straight into a username? At the moment
I have to dump out all the connections and search for the line that has the
addr I'm looking for to find the username,
Fergal
At 00:33 15/01/98 +0100, guenter wessling wrote:
>Hi, all.
>A late happy new year.
>
>Problem: mail access not depending on PAP-access.
>
>I´m running a dial-in-server-network, linux 2.0.36, I386.
>Two mail servers: popper 2.5.3 on one, 3.0.XX on the other.
>Ev´thing perfectly well (after all your help, especially from Mr. G.).
>
>What I have:
>Auth procedure: ppp-PAP with login / PAPpass.
>Each user is assigned one specific, non-changing IP-address. On purpose.
>Thereafter mail auth with login / mailpass.
>Mail-password different from PAP-Password.
>Interesting: after PAP-login as "user1@server dot mine" I cannot only check
>mail of "user1", but also of "user2" and all the others - if I use their
>mail-passwords, of course.
>So: one PAP-authentification gains access to system "in general".
>This way, "user1" with IP 12.12.12.12 can gain access to mail of, let´s=
say
>"user2" and "user3", and there will be no way to determine that user2/3´s
>mail has been accessed by someone else.
>What I want:
>Is there a way that popper can lookup if the IP of the user accessing mail
>is "correct" ? Will say can I establish an IP-lookup of "user1" *and*
>somehow compare this IP to the PAP-assigned one ?
>And, furthermore, can I restrict access to mail not only to correct
>password but also to correct IP ?
>
>To make it clear:
>
>dial in: *user1* ... PAP-auth ... IP 12.12.12.12 ...
>
>accessing mail of *user1*:
>check mail-password ... ok ... lookup IP of mail-loginname: 12.12.12.12 ...
>compare looked-up-IP 12.12.12.12 to PAP-IP 12.12.12.12 ... OK ...
>access granted ... mail given.
>
>accessing mail of *user2*:
>check mail-password ... ok ... lookup IP of mail-loginname: 12.12.12.13 ...
>compare looked-up-IP 12.12.12.13 to PAP-IP 12.12.12.12 ... FAIL ...
>access denied.
>
>Thank you,
>Günter
>
>
>:) have a nice day - alles Gute - :)
>Guenter Wessling (hypnose at t-online dot de)
>
> - Westfalian Society of Hypnosis -
> - Westfaelische Gesellschaft fuer Hypnose -
> 48165 Muenster, Germany
> fax: 0049 (0)2501 27273=09
>
>http://home.t-online.de/home/hypnose
>
>
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 01:52:58 +0000
From: Fergal Daly <fergal at esatclear dot ie>
Subject: Re: popbull error
Assuming you actually want bulletins (otherwise you can just configure
without the bulletins) you have 2 choices:
1. Use a bulletins database, this is instead of toring bulletins info in
home dirs, I think you can turn it on now with
configure --with-bulldb=<dir where you want the db>
the details are in the file INSTALL
2. Comment out the line in the source that generates the message, have a
look in pop_bull.c it's lines 202 and 203 in the b23 version
Fergal
At 18:55 14/01/00 -0500, Mike McKeage wrote:
>Good Day
>
>I am new to this list, and have recently installed qpopper 3.0b25
>
>I have it running on Mandrake (RedHat) Linux along with
>sendmail/procmail, and all is basically ok.
>I am getting many of these errors in /var/log/messages , and want
>to eliminate them.
>I think the errors are because many of the users do not have a
>home directory.
>Can you tell me how to eliminate the errors without recompiling?
>
>These are the errors:
>Jan 14 18:37:02 mailwest popper[6328]: Unable to create .popbull
>file (2)
>
>Jan 14 18:41:22 mailwest popper[6802]: Unable to create .popbull
>file (13)
From: "Mike McKeage" <mckeage at ebtech dot net>
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 21:17:46 -0500
Subject: twinkies
I have looked on qualcomm's website, and searched a bit, but I
cannot figure out what the heck a twinkie is.
Jan 14 21:13:35 mailwest popper[18800]: @d86.pm3-e.ebtech.net: -
ERR Unknown authentication mechanism: twinkie
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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 00:50:47 -0800
From: Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Subject: Re: turn off hostname -R not working
At 3:27 PM -0800 1/14/00, Jeff Halper wrote:
> Using qpopper 3.0b28 on Redhat 6.0 and 6.1, using .configure
> --enable-servermode
>
> Clients from addresses that are NOT properly reverse-mapped are being
> denied connection - how can I turn this off?
>
> using the -R option in the POP3 line of inetd doesnt work.
Qpopper itself only logs a warning if the reverse lookup fails, it
does not deny access. You must have some other mechanism installed
(such as a TCP wrapper) which is denying access.
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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 00:55:28 -0800
From: Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Subject: Re: popbull error
At 6:55 PM -0500 1/14/00, Mike McKeage wrote:
> I am new to this list, and have recently installed qpopper 3.0b25
>
> I have it running on Mandrake (RedHat) Linux along with
> sendmail/procmail, and all is basically ok.
> I am getting many of these errors in /var/log/messages , and want
> to eliminate them.
> I think the errors are because many of the users do not have a
> home directory.
> Can you tell me how to eliminate the errors without recompiling?
>
> These are the errors:
> Jan 14 18:37:02 mailwest popper[6328]: Unable to create .popbull
> file (2)
>
> Jan 14 18:41:22 mailwest popper[6802]: Unable to create .popbull
> file (13)
My suggestion would be to use 3.0b28 (or wait for b29, which is
imminent), and add '--enable-bulldb' to your ./configure line. But
that means recompiling, which you don't want to do.
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-Edsger W. Dijkstra
From: Steven Fletcher <stevenf at shellnet.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: twinkies
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 17:05:19 -0000
I belive that it's what Outlook sends when the "Use secure password
authentication" box is checked within the account setup, and you haven't
compiled Qpopper to use APOP, etc.
Don't ask me why they chose to use twinkie though ;-)
HTH;
Steven Fletcher
stevenf at shellnet.co dot uk
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike McKeage [mailto:mckeage at ebtech dot net]
Sent: 15 January 2000 02:18
To: Subscribers of Qpopper
Subject: twinkies
I have looked on qualcomm's website, and searched a bit, but I
cannot figure out what the heck a twinkie is.
Jan 14 21:13:35 mailwest popper[18800]: @d86.pm3-e.ebtech.net: -
ERR Unknown authentication mechanism: twinkie
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Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 19:43:02 +0100
From: hypnose at t-online dot de (guenter wessling)
Subject: twinky / apop
Hi, Steven,
>I belive that it's what Outlook sends when the "Use secure password
>authentication" box is checked within the account setup, and you haven't
>compiled Qpopper to use APOP, etc.
>
>Don't ask me why they chose to use twinkie though ;-)
>
>HTH;
>
>Steven Fletcher
>stevenf at shellnet.co dot uk
>
>
did you ever manage to contact APOP-configured servers with outlook ?
I tried to, but no way.
What do I do wrong ?
"Secure pw auth" does *not* work whatsoever - I allways got "server
replies: use stronger authentification method".
So far I can only use eudora or pegasus for APOP-contact.
Personally, that´s ok, cause eudora *is* great - but customers keep
complaining (especially due to language problem - german).
guenter
:) have a nice day - alles Gute - :)
Guenter Wessling (hypnose at t-online dot de)
- Westfalian Society of Hypnosis -
- Westfaelische Gesellschaft fuer Hypnose -
48165 Muenster, Germany
fax: 0049 (0)2501 27273=09
http://home.t-online.de/home/hypnose
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 15:11:28 -0800
From: Leonard Hermens <Leonard.Hermens at rcity dot com>
Subject: Re: twinky / apop
Eudora's site has a feature comparison that indicates Outlook Express
as not supporting APOP. I don't know about the various other
incarnations of Outlook, but I can't find an APOP option in Express.
http://www.eudora.com/pro_email/comparison.html
>
>did you ever manage to contact APOP-configured servers with outlook ?
>I tried to, but no way.
From: Gerhard Gonter <gonter at maestria.wu-wien.ac dot at>
Subject: Re: twinky / apop
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:43:24 +0100 (MEZ)
According to guenter wessling:
> did you ever manage to contact APOP-configured servers with outlook ?
That's funny, the mail before yours came from an outlook user who
insists on using regular password access to the mailbox in question.
The reason why I have to insist on using APOP in this case is because
these people requested (== insisted on) a shared pop mailbox. To avoid
that people have to share passwords, I hacked our pop server to
understand pop account usernames like "mailbox+user1" so that the
"mailbox" can be accessed by "user1" with hiw own password etc...
These passwords are APOP passwords. I guess I should send the patches
for this hack?!?
> I tried to, but no way.
> What do I do wrong ?
Outlook does not handle that, that's the problem. One thing that I'm
currently considering is to direct these users over an application
level gateway such as delegate. Well, I could also give in and set up
an account with a shared password, but I don't like *that* idea....
+gg
--
Gerhard.Gonter at wu-wien.ac.at Fax: +43/1/31336/702 g dot gonter at ieee dot org
Zentrum fuer Informatikdienste, Wirtschaftsuniversitaet Wien, Austria
"The lesson is that hype always triumphs over substance." --- Dogbert
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 02:52:26 +0100
From: hypnose at t-online dot de (guenter wessling)
Subject: Re: apop / shared mailbox
Hi, Gerhard,
At 00:43 17.01.00 +0100, gg wrote:
>That's funny, the mail before yours came from an outlook user who
>insists on using regular password access to the mailbox in question.
>
>The reason why I have to insist on using APOP in this case is because
>these people requested (== insisted on) a shared pop mailbox. To avoid
>that people have to share passwords, I hacked our pop server to
>understand pop account usernames like "mailbox+user1" so that the
>"mailbox" can be accessed by "user1" with hiw own password etc...
>These passwords are APOP passwords. I guess I should send the patches
>for this hack?!?
Would be appreciated - al least to figure out *how* you did that.
>Outlook does not handle that, that's the problem. One thing that I'm
>currently considering is to direct these users over an application
>level gateway such as delegate. Well, I could also give in and set up
>an account with a shared password, but I don't like *that* idea....
Maybe I´m stuck: but what is a shared mailbox good for ?
guenter
:) have a nice day - alles Gute - :)
Guenter Wessling (hypnose at t-online dot de)
- Westfalian Society of Hypnosis -
- Westfaelische Gesellschaft fuer Hypnose -
48165 Muenster, Germany
fax: 0049 (0)2501 27273=09
http://home.t-online.de/home/hypnose
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 18:56:54 -0800
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Qpopper 3.0b29 available
Qpopper 3.0b29 is available at
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/>.
Also, the list of changes from one beta release to the next is now on
the FTP site as well, at
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/Changes>.
The 3.0 release notes are also there:
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/Release.Notes>.
Changes from 3.0b28 to 3.0b29
-----------------------------
1. Updated documentation.
2. Added --enable-hash-spool=1|2 ./configure flag to use hashed
spool directories.
3. Fixed test for gcc version 2.7.2.3 (which emits bad code
for certain expressions when optimizations are on).
4. Slightly improved some error messages.
5. Added --enable-home-dir-mail=spool ./configure flag.
6. Hashed spool directories now created if needed. (Avoids lock
and other errors).
7. .pop file (temporary spool) now created in hashed or home
directory. Qpopper checks for old .pop file in former
location first.
8. Cleaned up some error exit cases which failed to unlock
and/or close spool or temp drop.
9. Rewrote genpath() to more cleanly handle all cases of spool
location. Added parameter to indicate which path is desired.
10. XNTD XMIT now creates temporary file in same directory as
user's spool file.
11. Cleaned up some formatting, indentation, and style issues (lots
more to go).
12. Added service name to --with-pam ./configure flag (default "pop3").
13. Fixed bug causing users to get bulletins over and over if they
are over quota or have home directories on full disks, and BULLDB
not used. Also cleaned up bulletin code and added trace calls.
14. Bulletins are now added in the correct order.
15. Bulletins which fail to end in two new-lines are handled better
on systems which do not use Content-Length.
16. Fix ./configure --help strings.
17. Added --with-log-facility=name ./configure flag to specify
the log facility.
Changes from 3.0b27 to 3.0b28
-----------------------------
1. Fixed potential non-terminating loop in pop_dropcopy.c.
From: James Tsang <jtsang at crystal.com dot cn>
Subject: web interface
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 15:14:56 +0800
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From: Marc.Romero at ibpc dot fr (Marc ROMERO)
Subject: Bugs in Qpopper 3.0b29
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:34:30 -0100 (GMT)
HI All,
In the new version of qpopper 3.0b19 is have a bug.
Since the last update of the system I am receiving new copies of all the
mail in my inbox every time Eudora or Netscape looks up the situation on the mail
server. I already have many copies of every message and things are getting
difficult to manage.
--
Amicalement,
Marc
_____________________________________________________________________
Marc ROMERO, CNRS - IFR 550, Administrateur Reseaux et Systemes
Institut de Biologie Physico-Chimique, Fondation Edmond de Rothschild
13, rue Pierre et Marie Curie, F-75005 Paris, France
Tel : +33 [0]1 58 41 50 34, Fax : +33 [0]1 58 41 50 21
E-Mail : Marc.Romero at ibpc.fr, WWW : http://www.ibpc dot fr/~romero
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:30:32 -0800 (GMT)
From: Balgansuren <balgaa at publica.ub.mng dot net>
Subject: POP-before-SMTP or SMTP AUTH
Hello,
We are planning to introduce Internet Roaming service to our subcribers,
but we don't how to solve mail server relay.
We need help for restrict mail relay.
There is any solution for POP3 and SMTP mail server?
Currently, we are using Sendmail 8.9.3 and Popper 3.028.
Please, provide us help information.
Best Regards
Balgansuren
Micom Co.,Ltd
Sq.Suhbaatar-9
Ulaanbaatar-210611
Mongolia
Tel:976-1-318360
Fax:976-1-318360
E-mail:balgaa at micom.mng dot net
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 08:59:54 -0500 (EST)
From: "A. M. Salim" <salim at localweb dot com>
Subject: Re: POP-before-SMTP or SMTP AUTH
> We need help for restrict mail relay. There is any solution for POP3
> and SMTP mail server? Currently, we are using Sendmail 8.9.3 and
> Popper 3.028.
see http://www.sendmail.org/ especially the links on Anti Spamming.
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:08:25 -0500 (EST)
From: Admin Mailing Lists <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
Subject: Re: authentification / check ip
but you already have the ip from the client when they try to log in, you
dont really need to query the dialup server. Sure, ips can be spoofed,
but the likelihood is slim. You could do at least 2 other ways I
can think of easily (depending on how many users we're talking here)
A) Have a text file with username->ip mappings, and check agianst that.
user1=0912.12.12.12
user2=0912.12.12.13
user3=0912.12.12.14
B) User the extra fields in the password file to put the user's IP in
there, and check against the user's extra field. So if there's a passwd
file entry of say:
user1:x:501:100::/home/user1:/bin/false
you might change it to:
user1:x:501:100:<their ip they get>:/home/user1:/bin/false
popper could check against either/or these methods. I can do A) easier in
my head, but both is doable. If you want either of these methods and
aren't too good for C programming, email me, and I'll help you out.
-Cygnus
=2E-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
Anthony J. Biacco Network Administrator/Engineer
admin at intergrafix dot net Intergrafix Internet Services
"Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today"
http://cygnus.ncohafmuta.com http://www.intergrafix.net
=2E-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
On Sat, 15 Jan 2000, Fergal Daly wrote:
> Sounds like you want popper to talk to your dial in authentication servic=
e
> so that it can verify that mail user1 is also dialin user1. Depending on
> what is doing the dialin auth, this should be possible, many systems can =
be
> queried using SNMP eg cisco/livingstone routers and probably most other
> brands of hardware.
>
> If I was doing it I make a qpopper that knows what IP addresses go with
> what routers then, when you see a connection from 12.12.12.12 qpopper can
> think to itself that's modem bank 2 so I better send an SNMP query to get
> the username. In fact I do that for some cgi scripts already but I use pe=
rl
> for it and even then it's a bit messy. I have a patch for an older versio=
n
> of qpopper that allows you do authentication checking by running a progra=
m
> or script every time someone logs in, that way you can keep the nasty SNM=
P
> code in a friendly language like perl or python. If you don't get a bette=
r
> offer I can send you the patch and the perl I use for turning an IP addre=
ss
> into a username.
>
> On a slightly off topic note, does anyone know an SNMP query for a Cisco
> AS5300 that will turn an IP address straight into a username? At the mome=
nt
> I have to dump out all the connections and search for the line that has t=
he
> addr I'm looking for to find the username,
>
> Fergal
>
>
> At 00:33 15/01/98 +0100, guenter wessling wrote:
> >Hi, all.
> >A late happy new year.
> >
> >Problem: mail access not depending on PAP-access.
> >
> >I´m running a dial-in-server-network, linux 2.0.36, I386.
> >Two mail servers: popper 2.5.3 on one, 3.0.XX on the other.
> >Ev´thing perfectly well (after all your help, especially from Mr. G.).
> >
> >What I have:
> >Auth procedure: ppp-PAP with login / PAPpass.
> >Each user is assigned one specific, non-changing IP-address. On purpose.
> >Thereafter mail auth with login / mailpass.
> >Mail-password different from PAP-Password.
> >Interesting: after PAP-login as "user1@server dot mine" I cannot only check
> >mail of "user1", but also of "user2" and all the others - if I use their
> >mail-passwords, of course.
> >So: one PAP-authentification gains access to system "in general".
> >This way, "user1" with IP 12.12.12.12 can gain access to mail of, let´=
s say
> >"user2" and "user3", and there will be no way to determine that user2/3=
´s
> >mail has been accessed by someone else.
> >What I want:
> >Is there a way that popper can lookup if the IP of the user accessing ma=
il
> >is "correct" ? Will say can I establish an IP-lookup of "user1" *and*
> >somehow compare this IP to the PAP-assigned one ?
> >And, furthermore, can I restrict access to mail not only to correct
> >password but also to correct IP ?
> >
> >To make it clear:
> >
> >dial in: *user1* ... PAP-auth ... IP 12.12.12.12 ...
> >
> >accessing mail of *user1*:
> >check mail-password ... ok ... lookup IP of mail-loginname: 12.12.12.12 =
=2E..
> >compare looked-up-IP 12.12.12.12 to PAP-IP 12.12.12.12 ... OK ...
> >access granted ... mail given.
> >
> >accessing mail of *user2*:
> >check mail-password ... ok ... lookup IP of mail-loginname: 12.12.12.13 =
=2E..
> >compare looked-up-IP 12.12.12.13 to PAP-IP 12.12.12.12 ... FAIL ...
> >access denied.
> >
> >Thank you,
> >Günter
> >
> >
> >:) have a nice day - alles Gute - :)
> >Guenter Wessling (hypnose at t-online dot de)
> >
> > - Westfalian Society of Hypnosis -
> > - Westfaelische Gesellschaft fuer Hypnose -
> > 48165 Muenster, Germany
> > fax: 0049 (0)2501 27273=09
> >
> >http://home.t-online.de/home/hypnose
> >
> >
>
From: "Jack Barnett" <jbarnett at axil.netmate dot com>
Subject: Re: web interface
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 08:37:02 -0600
----- Original Message -----
From: James Tsang <jtsang at crystal.com dot cn>
To: Subscribers of Qpopper <qpopper at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 1:14 AM
Subject: web interface
> Hello, member
> Would you give me some hints about web interface? Something like
> which web mail server should be better company with Qpopper?
> Rgds
>
>
You mean so users can check and send email though a web browser? Something
like hotmail.com?
Jack
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 15:20:39 +0000
From: Fergal Daly <fergal at esatclear dot ie>
Subject: Re: authentification / check ip
That only works if every customer gets the same (unique) IP address each
time they dial in. This is not the case in most in most ISPs but it's a
nice solution if it's applicable,
Fergal
Admin Mailing Lists wrote:
>
> but you already have the ip from the client when they try to log in, you
> dont really need to query the dialup server. Sure, ips can be spoofed,
> but the likelihood is slim. You could do at least 2 other ways I
> can think of easily (depending on how many users we're talking here)
>
> A) Have a text file with username->ip mappings, and check agianst that.
> user1 12.12.12.12
> user2 12.12.12.13
> user3 12.12.12.14
>
> B) User the extra fields in the password file to put the user's IP in
> there, and check against the user's extra field. So if there's a passwd
> file entry of say:
> user1:x:501:100::/home/user1:/bin/false
>
> you might change it to:
> user1:x:501:100:<their ip they get>:/home/user1:/bin/false
>
> popper could check against either/or these methods. I can do A) easier in
> my head, but both is doable. If you want either of these methods and
> aren't too good for C programming, email me, and I'll help you out.
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:54:26 -0800
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Bugs in Qpopper 3.0b29
At 9:34 AM -0100 1/17/00, Marc ROMERO wrote:
>HI All,
>
>In the new version of qpopper 3.0b19 is have a bug.
>
>Since the last update of the system I am receiving new copies of all the
>mail in my inbox every time Eudora or Netscape looks up the
>situation on the mail
>server. I already have many copies of every message and things are getting
>difficult to manage.
I am unable to reproduce this problem using 3.0b29 on Redhat Linux or
Solaris. In every case, the UIDs are correct, and Eudora only
downloads new messages once.
Can you do a 'make clean', then re-run ./configure, adding
'--enable-debugging', re-run 'make', then add '-t tracefile' to the
inetd.conf line (and send inetd a HUP signal)? This causes extensive
trace material to be written to the file specified as 'tracefile'.
Then, check mail twice using Eudora, verify that Eudora is
downloading the same messages twice, and send in the tracefile?
(Please only send it to <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>, not to the public
list).
Thank you.
From: "Benjamin Hyatt" <benski at pacbell dot net>
Subject: problems compiling 3.0b29
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:20:43 -0800
Hi,
Having some problems compiling popper 3.0b29 on Solaris 2.6
I'm using GNU make 3.78.1, and GCC 2.95.1
Enabling no compilation options for ./configure I get the following error
after I do a 'make'
Undefined first referenced
symbol in file
hstrerror pop_init.o
ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to popper
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `popper'
Current working directory /usr/local/src/qpopper3.0b29/popper
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `popper_server'
For the record, I am able to compile and run the earlier beta version
3.0b28.
Wasn't actually able to use it though. Wierd permissions problem that I was
never able to solve.
Thanks in advance.
-Ben
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:46:03 +0100
From: hypnose at t-online dot de (guenter wessling)
Subject: Re: authentification / check ip
Hi, Cygnus,
solutions A) sounds great.
How would you set up the checking procedure ?
guenter
To Fergal: each user *has* a unique one and only IP on my system.
At 09:08 17.01.00 -0500, you wrote:
>
>but you already have the ip from the client when they try to log in, you
>dont really need to query the dialup server. Sure, ips can be spoofed,
>but the likelihood is slim. You could do at least 2 other ways I
>can think of easily (depending on how many users we're talking here)
>
>A) Have a text file with username->ip mappings, and check agianst that.
>user1 12.12.12.12
>user2 12.12.12.13
>user3 12.12.12.14
>
>B) User the extra fields in the password file to put the user's IP in
>there, and check against the user's extra field. So if there's a passwd
>file entry of say:
>user1:x:501:100::/home/user1:/bin/false
>
>you might change it to:
>user1:x:501:100:<their ip they get>:/home/user1:/bin/false
>
>popper could check against either/or these methods. I can do A) easier in
>my head, but both is doable. If you want either of these methods and
>aren't too good for C programming, email me, and I'll help you out.
>
>-Cygnus
:) have a nice day - alles Gute - :)
Guenter Wessling (hypnose at t-online dot de)
- Westfalian Society of Hypnosis -
- Westfaelische Gesellschaft fuer Hypnose -
48165 Muenster, Germany
fax: 0049 (0)2501 27273
http://home.t-online.de/home/hypnose