The qpopper list archive ending on 9 Feb 2000
Topics covered in this issue include:
1. RE: libmysqlclient.so.6
Edward Concilio <econcilio at goamerica dot net>
Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:52:08 -0500
2. qpopper v.3.x w/qmail
"Silvera, Damian" <DSilvera at med.miami dot edu>
Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:29:42 -0500
3. Re: pop server question
Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
Fri, 4 Feb 2000 17:54:00 -0500
4. Re: qpopper v.3.x w/qmail
Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:13:41 -0800
5. Re: Qpopper 3.0b32 available
Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
Fri, 4 Feb 2000 20:09:14 -0500
6. Re: Qpopper 3.0b32 available
Paul Watson <paulw at wfsoftware dot com>
Sat, 05 Feb 2000 17:51:26 +0000
7. a questions~!
Paulo Santos <psantos at gol.com dot br>
Sat, 5 Feb 2000 18:55:41 -0200
8. question about qpopper 2.53
Imin Kao <ikao at ms.cc.sunysb dot edu>
Sat, 5 Feb 2000 16:05:56 -0500 (EST)
9. Re: question about qpopper 2.53
Phil V Savoie <Phil.Savoie at learnix dot ca>
Sat, 05 Feb 2000 16:23:18 -0500
10. Re: a questions~!
Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Sun, 6 Feb 2000 00:42:03 -0800
11. RPM for 3.0b32 available
"Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Mon, 07 Feb 2000 08:44:48 -0800
12. qpopper hang and missing mail
Julien Nadeau <julien at csoft dot net>
Mon, 07 Feb 2000 14:14:51 -0400
13. Conversion from pop to apop
Thomas Kuehne <thomas.kuehne at omik dot org>
Mon, 07 Feb 2000 19:16:25 +0100
14. Re: qpopper hang and missing mail
Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Mon, 7 Feb 2000 12:38:20 -0800
15. Re: Conversion from pop to apop
Frank Pineau <frank at pineaus dot com>
Mon, 07 Feb 2000 16:57:00 -0500
16. aliasing
hypnose at t-online dot de (guenter wessling)
Tue, 08 Feb 2000 00:32:44 +0100
17. Re: aliasing
Fergal Daly <fergal at esatclear dot ie>
Tue, 08 Feb 2000 00:23:25 +0000
18. Re: qpopper hang and missing mail
Byron Jones <byron at vianet.net dot au>
Tue, 08 Feb 2000 08:49:02 +0800
19. Re: aliasing
Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Mon, 7 Feb 2000 17:40:14 -0800
20. Re: aliasing
Tomasz Orzechowski <tmo at apk dot net>
Mon, 7 Feb 2000 21:12:07 -0500
21. Re: aliasing
Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Tue, 8 Feb 2000 15:31:07 +1300 (NZDT)
22. Re: aliasing
Fergal Daly <fergal at esatclear dot ie>
Tue, 08 Feb 2000 11:59:44 +0000
23. Re: aliasing
Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Wed, 9 Feb 2000 01:25:27 +1300 (NZDT)
24. Re: aliasing
"James Nelson" <james at digit.bloomnet dot com>
Tue, 8 Feb 2000 08:08:41 -0600
25. POP EOF error
John Stevenson <JSteven1 at swst dot com>
Tue, 8 Feb 2000 09:55:56 -0600
26. Re: POP EOF error
"Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Tue, 08 Feb 2000 10:28:19 -0800
27. SubDomian for MX
"Technical Support" <sonia at innetix dot com>
Tue, 8 Feb 2000 11:11:59 -0800
28. RE: SubDomian for MX
John Stevenson <JSteven1 at swst dot com>
Tue, 8 Feb 2000 13:31:42 -0600
29. files split during retrieve
Alistair Blachford <alistair at zoology.ubc dot ca>
Tue, 8 Feb 00 12:19:36 PST
30. Re: aliasing
Fergal Daly <fergal at esatclear dot ie>
Tue, 08 Feb 2000 20:32:18 +0000
31. Re: files split during retrieve
"Julian Y. Koh" <kohster at mac dot com>
Tue, 8 Feb 2000 14:39:32 -0600
32. Re: files split during retrieve
Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Tue, 8 Feb 2000 12:36:37 -0800
33. Quick Question
"John Smith" <cronus_673 at hotmail dot com>
Tue, 08 Feb 2000 12:42:44 AKST
34. Re: Quick Question
Alex Charalabidis <alex at wnm dot net>
Tue, 8 Feb 2000 16:21:17 -0600 (CST)
35. Re: Quick Question
"Richard N. Law" <law at cerebral dot org>
Tue, 08 Feb 2000 17:26:58 -0500
36. Re: Quick Question
"A. M. Salim" <salim at localweb dot com>
Tue, 8 Feb 2000 18:09:02 -0500 (EST)
37. Re: Quick Question
Alex Charalabidis <alex at wnm dot net>
Tue, 8 Feb 2000 17:07:39 -0600 (CST)
38. Re: Quick Question
aunty <aunty at comcen.com dot au>
Wed, 9 Feb 2000 11:05:35 +1100
39. Re: qpopper 2.53 and residual files
Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Tue, 8 Feb 2000 17:41:58 -0800
40. Re: qpopper 2.53 and residual files
Ryan Ordway <ryan at gstis dot net>
Tue, 8 Feb 2000 17:51:30 -0800 (PST)
41. Re: Quick Question
Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:00:22 +1300 (NZDT)
42. Re: Quick Question
Raphael Maseko <ralph at zamnet dot zm>
Wed, 09 Feb 2000 09:40:57 +0200
43. MRTG-2.8.11
"penda paul" <paul_penda at hotmail dot com>
Wed, 09 Feb 2000 07:19:34 PST
44. Re: MRTG-2.8.11
"Joseph W. Breu" <breu at cfu dot net>
Wed, 9 Feb 2000 09:23:29 -0600 (CST)
45. Re: Quick Question
Sandy Lloyd <slloyd at ghc.ctc dot edu>
Wed, 09 Feb 2000 07:32:13 -0800
46. Re: MRTG-2.8.11
Sebastian Stark <stark at komcept dot de>
Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:43:06 +0100 (CET)
47. Re: MRTG-2.8.11
Williams Martinez <willie at uncoma.edu dot ar>
Wed, 09 Feb 2000 12:58:19 -0300
48. .pop file
Frank Zhang <fzhang at hsc.unt dot edu>
Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:29:19 -0600 (CST)
49. RE: .pop file
John Stevenson <JSteven1 at swst dot com>
Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:43:53 -0600
50. RE: .pop file
Frank Zhang <fzhang at hsc.unt dot edu>
Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:52:22 -0600 (CST)
From: Edward Concilio <econcilio at goamerica dot net>
Subject: RE: libmysqlclient.so.6
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:52:08 -0500
Fergal,
Sometimes I can't see the forest through the trees.
I read your email, BTW: thanks, and realized the mysql libraries
were not being seen. So I just copied them from /usr/local/mysql/lib/mysql
to /usr/lib. Also, I left the -lmysqlclient in the popper/Makefile. w/o
this declaration, popper wouldn't compile correctly.
Special kudos to you and Julien Nadeau for responding.
-----Original Message-----
From: Fergal Daly [mailto:fergal at esatclear dot ie]
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 2:38 PM
To: Edward Concilio; qpopper at lists.pensive dot org
Subject: Re: libmysqlclient.so.6
It looks like you compiled it with mysql support but don't have mysql
properly installed. It can't find the mysql shared librariy. Do a
locate libmysqlclient.so.6
to see if you have it. If the file is on your machine maybe it's not in any
of the system library paths. I don't know SunOS but on linux you can look
in /etc/ld.so.conf to get a list of the directories that will be searched .
Make sure libmysqlclient.so.6 is in one of these dirs by either moving it
there or preferraby making a link to where the original file is.
Finally I notice in the piece of makefile below that you have "-lmysql
client", if that space really is there in the makefile you used, I don't
see how it compiled at all!
Fergal
At 13:11 04/02/00 -0500, Edward Concilio wrote:
>Popper question
>
>When I telent to whirlmail, port 110, I receive the following message:
>
>ld.so.1: popper: fatal: libmysqlclient.so.6: open failed: No such file or
>diry
>Connection closed by foreign ld.so.1:: not found
>
>qpopper 3.0b23+MySql Patch from
http://www.tesol.net/linux/mysqlqpopper.html
>System = SunOS
>Node = whirlmail
>Release = 5.6
>Machine = sun4u
>gcc: sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.95.2/specs gcc version 2.95.2 19991024
(release)
>
>I've modified the popper/Makefile.in with the following:
>LIBS = @NETWORK_LIBS@ @KERBEROS_LIBS@ @DBM_LIBS@ @LIBS@ -lmysql client
>-L/usr/local/mysql/lib/mysql
>
>Here is the configure command:
>./configure --enable-specialauth --enable-bulletins=/var/spool/bulls
>--enable-lo
>g-login --enable-servermode --enable-debugging --enable-hash-spool=2
>
>
>Thanks
>
>Edward Concilio
>Senior Systems Admin.
>401 Hacksack Ave.
>Hackensack, NJ 07601
>(201) 996-1717 x2243
>econcilio at goamerica dot net
>http://www.goamerica.net
>
>
From: "Silvera, Damian" <DSilvera at med.miami dot edu>
Subject: qpopper v.3.x w/qmail
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:29:42 -0500
Does anyone know where to get the diffs for qpopper v.3 to work with a
mailer that delivers messages to /home/username/Mailbox (i.e. qmail)? The
patches for qpopper v.2.53 are everywhere, not so with version 3.
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 17:54:00 -0500
From: Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
Subject: Re: pop server question
On Wed, Jan 19, 2000 at 09:44:21AM -0800, Qpopper Support wrote:
...
> I'd be very interested in cases which cause current (3.0b29) Qpopper
> to duplicate messages. Can you reproduce this? If possible, a trace
> file showing it happening would be ideal. (To get a trace file, do a
> 'make clean', re-run ./configure, adding '--enable-debugging', do a
> 'make', and add '-t tracefile' to inetd.conf (and give inetd a HUP
> signal). This writes detailed trace info to the file specified by
> 'tracefile').
When, occasionally [which adds up to many calls a day over a very large
number of users], 'popper' dies or is detached from because of a user's
perception that it is hanging, then the already-read mail is not read.
This gives the user, once he or she re-connects and hangs again at the
same too-large message, the impression that he or she is getting the
same messages multiple times.
I am puzzled by this, though, because the message reader most of them
are using - Netscape Messenger - will also not re-read already read
messages if it terminates the session. I will admit I have not watched
over the shoulders of many of the far-flung users to see how they are
detaching from their POP3 sessions.
--
Joe Yao jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov - Joseph S. D. Yao
COSPO/OSIS Computer Support EMT-B
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
This message is not an official statement of COSPO policies.
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:13:41 -0800
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: qpopper v.3.x w/qmail
At 4:29 PM -0500 2/4/00, Damian Silvera wrote:
> Does anyone know where to get the diffs for qpopper v.3 to work with a
> mailer that delivers messages to /home/username/Mailbox (i.e. qmail)? The
> patches for qpopper v.2.53 are everywhere, not so with version 3.
No need for patches, just use the latest 3.0 (3.0b32) and add
'--enable-home-dir-mail=Mailbox' to the ./configure line.
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 20:09:14 -0500
From: Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.0b32 available
On Thu, Feb 03, 2000 at 03:58:13PM -0800, Qpopper Support wrote:
> Qpopper 3.0b32 is available at
> <ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/>.
...
> 12. Removed K&R syntax from FillMangleInfo to make HP compiler
> happier.
Unfortunately, you did exactly what I did at least once while trying to
implement this. You put the above comment in the header. You did a
seek to "FillMangleInfo" in a function header comment. And you applied
the fix to the function header following the comment.
Which was FreeMangleInfo(), which doesn't need the fix.
And FillMangleInfo() does not have the fix. ;-]
b33 ...
--
Joe Yao jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov - Joseph S. D. Yao
COSPO/OSIS Computer Support EMT-B
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
This message is not an official statement of COSPO policies.
Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 17:51:26 +0000
From: Paul Watson <paulw at wfsoftware dot com>
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.0b32 available
Could somebody please remove me from this list, I tried to unsubsribe
as per the instructions, I get confirmation it worked but I keep
getting the mail
TIA
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 18:55:41 -0200
From: Paulo Santos <psantos at gol.com dot br>
Subject: a questions~!
`Hello ALL
Please answer-me:
why I'm receiving this msg: Unable to create .popbull file (2) ???????
Tks
Paulo
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 16:05:56 -0500 (EST)
From: Imin Kao <ikao at ms.cc.sunysb dot edu>
Subject: question about qpopper 2.53
I am running qpopper 2.53 without popauth on SunOS 4.1.4. When I am
trying to read email from Netscape on my Mac, the error message reads:
Netscape's network connection was refused by the server: xxx
The server may not be accepting connection of may be busy
...
The qpopper was working before I upgrade to 2.53. (The previous
version was rather old.)
Are there anything that should check on the server?
Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 16:23:18 -0500
From: Phil V Savoie <Phil.Savoie at learnix dot ca>
Subject: Re: question about qpopper 2.53
Hello Imin,
I would probably want to see where the install put the new popper
executable and then check /etc/inetd.conf and see if it is in fact pointing
to the right place. You may also want to check /etc/services to verify the
pop entry as well.
Hope this helps,
Phil
At 16:05 05/02/00 -0500, Imin Kao wrote:
>I am running qpopper 2.53 without popauth on SunOS 4.1.4. When I am
>trying to read email from Netscape on my Mac, the error message reads:
>
> Netscape's network connection was refused by the server: xxx
> The server may not be accepting connection of may be busy
> ...
>
>The qpopper was working before I upgrade to 2.53. (The previous
>version was rather old.)
>
>Are there anything that should check on the server?
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 00:42:03 -0800
From: Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Subject: Re: a questions~!
At 6:55 PM -0200 2/5/00, Paulo Santos wrote:
> `Hello ALL
>
> Please answer-me:
> why I'm receiving this msg: Unable to create .popbull file (2) ???????
>
> Tks
> Paulo
Qpopper was unable to create the user's .popbull file. Does the user
have a home directory? If not, you might wish to use bulldb instead.
Either way, try upgrading to 3,0b32 or later. You can then enable
bulldb by using --enable-bulldb.
--
--
Randall Gellens Randy at Pensive dot Org
---------------------- (randomly-selected tag) ---------------------
The Law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich, as well as the
poor, to sleep under the bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal
bread. --Anatole France
From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 08:44:48 -0800
Subject: RPM for 3.0b32 available
An RPM package for Qpopper 3.0 beta 32 is now availab
at:
http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/contrib/libc6/i386/qpopper-2.99.32-1.i386.h
tml
Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
http://www.215Now.com/
Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 14:14:51 -0400
From: Julien Nadeau <julien at csoft dot net>
Subject: qpopper hang and missing mail
Hello,
Two clients are having strange mail problems, the server runs qpopper
3.0b23 with
--enable-specialauth --with-popuid=mail
--enable-temp-drop-dir=/var/spool/pop,
the server hosts about 600 users, I've only received reports from those
two clients
today.
> julien,
> It hangs . Before i even enter the user name. Here's what i get
>
> +OK QPOP (version 3.0b32) at cs.csoft.net starting.
>
> Then after about 5 minutes it disappears.
I've double checked and this client's address is not denied by the
firewall; the logs show nothing
particular either.
A report from another client today:
> When I check my mail eith my e-mail client I no longer have any problems, but I don´t get all the messages.
> When I telnet in and use pine there are some new e-mails, that I don´t get with my e-mail client, why?
Any suggestion is much appreciated =)
-- Julien Nadeau
Tech dept, Csoft.net
Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 19:16:25 +0100
From: Thomas Kuehne <thomas.kuehne at omik dot org>
Subject: Conversion from pop to apop
We are using qpopper 2.53 with the normal pop version. We now plan to
upgrade to apop. How complicated is it to upgrade to apop from an
existing pop environment (~ 500 users)? General experience with apop?
Thanks
-Thomas
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 12:38:20 -0800
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: qpopper hang and missing mail
At 2:14 PM -0400 2/7/00, Julien Nadeau wrote:
> > It hangs . Before i even enter the user name. Here's what i get
> >
>> +OK QPOP (version 3.0b32) at cs.csoft.net starting.
>>
>> Then after about 5 minutes it disappears.
>
>I've double checked and this client's address is not denied by the
>firewall; the logs show nothing
>particular either.
>
>A report from another client today:
>
>> When I check my mail eith my e-mail client I no longer have any
>>problems, but I don´t get all the messages.
>> When I telnet in and use pine there are some new e-mails, that I
>>don´t get with my e-mail client, why?
>
>Any suggestion is much appreciated =)
>
> -- Julien Nadeau
> Tech dept, Csoft.net
Please enable debug tracing. To do this, do a 'make clean' and the
run ./configure again, adding '--enable-debugging'. Then reinstall
the new qpopper. Update the inetd.conf line to add '-t tracefile'.
This causes detailed trace/debug entries to be written to the file
'tracefile'. If the problems only happen with these two users, you
might want to set this qpopper on its own port (perhaps 109), and
instruct these two users to change their client to use this port.
Then, after the problem is reproduced, please send the tracefile to
qpopper at qualcomm dot co. (Don't send it to this list). You could then
remove the '-t tracefile' flag from the inetd.conf line.
From: Frank Pineau <frank at pineaus dot com>
Subject: Re: Conversion from pop to apop
Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 16:57:00 -0500
I use it, but I only have a few users, and I had to convert them each by hand.
Be advised that it's either-or. Individual users can't use both.
FP
On Mon, 07 Feb 2000 19:16:25 +0100, a data storm erupted from Thomas Kuehne
<thomas.kuehne at omik dot org>:
>We are using qpopper 2.53 with the normal pop version. We now plan to
>upgrade to apop. How complicated is it to upgrade to apop from an
>existing pop environment (~ 500 users)? General experience with apop?
>
>Thanks
>-Thomas
--
<*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>
Frank Pineau ------------>
frank at pineaus.IHATESPAM dot com
http://www.pineaus.com
Use your powers for good, not for evil. Well, you
can use them for evil if you want, but it voids
your warranty.
<*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>
PGP Public Key:
http://www.pineaus.com/frankpineau.asc
No mail from web-based mail systems such as Hotmail
or Yahoo will be accepted.
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 00:32:44 +0100
From: hypnose at t-online dot de (guenter wessling)
Subject: aliasing
Hi, all.
Maybe this is a funny question, but I really seem to miss something ....
After setting up a dial-in-network according to internet rules (all
internet services available allthough no connection to www yet), all works ok.
People dial in and are on the intranet as if it were a "little" internet.
Two major domains and a subdomain are set up:
mydomain.de, mydomain.net and mydomain.com.
One problem persisted:
people could not send/receive eMails by just putting
@mydomain.de (--> someperson at mydomain dot de)
into address field. (Or, mydomain.net/com, respectively.)
I.e., they had to add the servername to it:
@servername.mydomain.de (--> someperson at servername dot mydomain dot de)
If the servername was added, all was good. All domains worked and exchanged
mail.
If servername was not added, errormsg was "local configuration error".
Now, thanks to sendmail.org I managed to persuade sendmail to forward mail
to the "naked" domain:
special aliasing makes mail sent to
friend at mydomain dot de
go to the right server and into the right mail/spool.
But: popper refuses to open the account of friend at mydomain dot de.
Message: network address not found for "mydomain.de" - requested entry not
found.
(I set up eudora with pop-account: friend at mydomain dot de and smtp:
servername.mydomain.de.)
If I ask for mail in friend at servername.mydomain dot de (i.e.: pop-account:
friend at servername.mydomain dot de) all works.
So, how do I persuade popper, that friend at mydomain dot de corresponds to
friend at servername.mydomain dot de ?
Is this a dns-problem, maybe ? Sendmail works, as I said.
Thanks for the trouble,
guenter
:) have a nice day - alles Gute - :)
Guenter Wessling (hypnose at t-online dot de)
- Westfalian Society of Hypnosis -
- Westfaelische Gesellschaft fuer Hypnose -
48165 Muenster, Germany
fax: 0049 (0)2501 27273
http://home.t-online.de/home/hypnose
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 00:23:25 +0000
From: Fergal Daly <fergal at esatclear dot ie>
Subject: Re: aliasing
At 00:32 08/02/00 +0100, guenter wessling wrote:
>Hi, all.
>
>Maybe this is a funny question, but I really seem to miss something ....
>After setting up a dial-in-network according to internet rules (all
>internet services available allthough no connection to www yet), all works
ok.
>People dial in and are on the intranet as if it were a "little" internet.
>Two major domains and a subdomain are set up:
>mydomain.de, mydomain.net and mydomain.com.
>
>One problem persisted:
>people could not send/receive eMails by just putting
>@mydomain.de (--> someperson at mydomain dot de)
>into address field. (Or, mydomain.net/com, respectively.)
>I.e., they had to add the servername to it:
>@servername.mydomain.de (--> someperson at servername dot mydomain dot de)
>
>If the servername was added, all was good. All domains worked and exchanged
>mail.
>If servername was not added, errormsg was "local configuration error".
>
>Now, thanks to sendmail.org I managed to persuade sendmail to forward mail
>to the "naked" domain:
>special aliasing makes mail sent to
>friend at mydomain dot de
>go to the right server and into the right mail/spool.
>
>But: popper refuses to open the account of friend at mydomain dot de.
>Message: network address not found for "mydomain.de" - requested entry not
>found.
>(I set up eudora with pop-account: friend at mydomain dot de and smtp:
>servername.mydomain.de.)
>If I ask for mail in friend at servername.mydomain dot de (i.e.: pop-account:
>friend at servername.mydomain dot de) all works.
>
>So, how do I persuade popper, that friend at mydomain dot de corresponds to
>friend at servername.mydomain dot de ?
>
>Is this a dns-problem, maybe ? Sendmail works, as I said.
This is a DNS problem, you have not set an ip address to correspond to
mydomain.de, I'm no bind expert but looking at our config file I see that a
line like
IN A x.x.x.x
where x.x.x.x is the ip address of servername.mydomain.de, so try that.
Maybe even
IN CNAME servername.mydomain.de
would work too. Just be careful, as popper will not know the difference
between user at domain dot de and user at someotherdomain dot de The domain names are not
passed as part of the login procedure so they both look like just "user",
so if they are meant to be separate accounts then you'll have trouble,
Fergal
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 08:49:02 +0800
From: Byron Jones <byron at vianet.net dot au>
Subject: Re: qpopper hang and missing mail
>Two clients are having strange mail problems, the server runs qpopper
>3.0b23 with
> > It hangs . Before i even enter the user name. Here's what i get
> > +OK QPOP (version 3.0b32) at cs.csoft.net starting.
> > Then after about 5 minutes it disappears.
they are probably using microsoft telnet, which for me doesn't show
characters that you type, so it appears to have hung. typing blind still
works however.
once they connect with telnet, get them to go to terminal->preferences and=
enable local echo. then they will be able to see what they are typing.
> > When I check my mail eith my e-mail client I no longer have any
> problems, but I don´t get all the messages.
> > When I telnet in and use pine there are some new e-mails, that I don´t=
> get with my e-mail client, why?
i've seen this before with a corrupt mailbox. you may find that there
isn't a blank line before a "^From " line, or similar. this would result
in some programs picking up the email as being part of the previous email,=
with other picking it up as a separate email.
i hope this helps :)
-- byron jones ----------------------
systems administrator
vianet australia
http://www.vianet.net.au/~byron
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 17:40:14 -0800
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: aliasing
At 12:23 AM +0000 2/8/00, Fergal Daly wrote:
> This is a DNS problem, you have not set an ip address to correspond to
> mydomain.de, I'm no bind expert but looking at our config file I see that a
> line like
>
> IN A x.x.x.x
>
> where x.x.x.x is the ip address of servername.mydomain.de, so try that.
> Maybe even
>
> IN CNAME servername.mydomain.de
>
> would work too.
It's best to not use CNAME records where mail is concerned. You can
create two A records, one for mydomain.de and the other for
server.mydomain.de, both with the same IP address.
--
Randall Gellens
Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only
-------------- Randomly-selected tag: ---------------
Algol was a great improvement on most of its successors. --C.A.R Hoare
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 21:12:07 -0500
From: Tomasz Orzechowski <tmo at apk dot net>
Subject: Re: aliasing
> It's best to not use CNAME records where mail is concerned. You can
> create two A records, one for mydomain.de and the other for
> server.mydomain.de, both with the same IP address.
Really, don't do CNAMEs, you'll run into trouble. I'd suggest adding IN
MX records instead of multiple IN A records with the same RHS, though.
--
Tomasz Orzechowski tmo at apk dot net
APK.net systems administration team TO630
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 15:31:07 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: aliasing
On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Randall Gellens wrote:
> It's best to not use CNAME records where mail is concerned.
The applicable RFCs forbid setting cnames as MX records and BIND 8.1+
will complain loudly about it if any are found.
AB
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 11:59:44 +0000
From: Fergal Daly <fergal at esatclear dot ie>
Subject: Re: aliasing
Alan Brown wrote:
>
> On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Randall Gellens wrote:
>
> > It's best to not use CNAME records where mail is concerned.
>
> The applicable RFCs forbid setting cnames as MX records and BIND 8.1+
> will complain loudly about it if any are found.
I may have things confused so bear with me. I wasn't talking about
cnames as mx records, the record I thought he wanted was one that would
allow him to set user at domain dot de as the pop account in Eudora, this is
completely distinct to setting his email address to user at domain dot de and
is also distinct from his SMTP server. Eudora would then try to connect
to port 110 on the machine domain.de, thus causing the 'network address
not found for "mydomain.de"' error.
What I suggested was to set dns so that mydomain.de resolved to the same
IP address as servername.mydomain.de so that popper could resolve it.
Nothing to do with MX records at all,
Fergal
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 01:25:27 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: aliasing
On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Fergal Daly wrote:
> I may have things confused so bear with me. I wasn't talking about
> cnames as mx records
I know.
The problem is that a cname overrides _all_ other information for the
dns entry and _all_ its subdomains.
Additionally (as a result) one cannot make example.com a CNAME for
smtp.example.com or pop3.example.com - this is a recursive loop.
Setting Cnames for pop3/smtp servers usually badly breaks MX setups and
is best avoided.
AB
From: "James Nelson" <james at digit.bloomnet dot com>
Subject: Re: aliasing
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 08:08:41 -0600
Yes-- setting a CNAME for an MX host is a bad idea and should be
avoided. The confirmation of this would be to read the RFC's. I
believe (and am about 99% sure) that it also violates the SMTP (and
possibly DNS) RFC's
-James
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Brown" <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
To: "Fergal Daly" <fergal at esatclear dot ie>
Cc: "Subscribers of Qpopper" <qpopper at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 6:25 AM
Subject: Re: aliasing
| On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Fergal Daly wrote:
|
| > I may have things confused so bear with me. I wasn't talking about
| > cnames as mx records
|
| I know.
|
| The problem is that a cname overrides _all_ other information for
the
| dns entry and _all_ its subdomains.
|
| Additionally (as a result) one cannot make example.com a CNAME for
| smtp.example.com or pop3.example.com - this is a recursive loop.
|
| Setting Cnames for pop3/smtp servers usually badly breaks MX setups
and
| is best avoided.
|
| AB
|
From: John Stevenson <JSteven1 at swst dot com>
Subject: POP EOF error
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 09:55:56 -0600
Hello. I am getting errors like this in my popper log:
Feb 8 01:47:43 mail popper[625]: @swst.swst.com: -ERR POP EOF received
Feb 8 01:48:42 mail popper[672]: @swst.swst.com: -ERR POP EOF received
Feb 8 01:49:43 mail popper[712]: @swst.swst.com: -ERR POP EOF received
Feb 8 01:50:09 mail popper[682]: @cust-199-34-18-11.teleteam.net: -ERR POP
EOF received
Feb 8 01:50:42 mail popper[772]: @swst.swst.com: -ERR POP EOF received
Feb 8 01:51:31 mail popper[751]: @[38.197.38.98]: -ERR POP EOF received
Feb 8 01:51:31 mail popper[760]: @cust-209-51-23-124.teleteam.net: -ERR POP
EOF received
Feb 8 01:51:42 mail popper[827]: @swst.swst.com: -ERR POP EOF received
Feb 8 01:52:42 mail popper[888]: @swst.swst.com: -ERR POP EOF received
Feb 8 01:53:42 mail popper[940]: @swst.swst.com: -ERR POP EOF received
Feb 8 01:54:42 mail popper[983]: @swst.swst.com: -ERR POP EOF received
Feb 8 01:55:43 mail popper[1050]: @swst.swst.com: -ERR POP EOF received
Does anyone know what this means? I looked on www.qualcomm.com and was
unable to locate any information about it and I did a search on the
web..once again...nothing. I am running QPOP (version 2.53).
Thank you,
John Stevenson
UNIX Systems Administrator
Southwest Securities, Inc.
(214) 859-6172
From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 10:28:19 -0800
Subject: Re: POP EOF error
On Tue, 8 Feb 2000 09:55:56 -0600, John Stevenson wrote:
>Feb 8 01:47:43 mail popper[625]: @swst.swst.com: -ERR POP EOF received
That's typically Outlook Express prematurely timing out a slow
connection and preemptively shutting down its end of the socket. I
haven't noticed any of these in recent revs of the 3.0 beta, so I'd
suggest upgrading. The betas have been pretty stable, and fix lots of
problems in 2.53.
Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
http://www.215Now.com/
From: "Technical Support" <sonia at innetix dot com>
Subject: SubDomian for MX
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 11:11:59 -0800
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
------=_NextPart_000_012E_01BF7225.513111F0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Group,
I'm trying to set up an MX record for a subdomain on the name server but =
it is messing up the other entries. I would like all the mail coming for =
listserv.innetix.org to go to sparklist.com.
my mx entry on ns record for innetix.org looks like
listserv IN MX 5 sparklist.com.
IN MX 10 mail.innetix.org.
IN MX 20 mail.innetix.com.
When I query the nameserver for mx record i get this result
innetix.org
origin = ns.innetix.com
mail addr = hostmaster.ns.innetix.com
serial = 2000020810
refresh = 86400 (1 day)
retry = 3600 (1 hour)
expire = 2592000 (30 days)
minimum ttl = 86400 (1 day)
below is the result for ls -d
listserv MX 5 lists.sparklist.com.
listserv MX 10 mail.innetix.org.
listserv MX 20 mail.innetix.com.
Could u tell me what I'm doing wrong. all help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Sonia.
-----------------------------------
Technical Support
Innetix Inc.
408.793.2800
sonia at innetix dot com
------=_NextPart_000_012E_01BF7225.513111F0
Content-Type: text/html;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" =
http-equiv=Content-Type>
<META content="MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=GENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Group,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm trying to set up an MX record for a =
subdomain
on the name server but it is messing up the other entries. <FONT =
face=Arial
size=2>I would like all the mail coming for listserv.innetix.org to go =
to
sparklist.com.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>my mx entry on ns record for =
innetix.org looks
like</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>listserv =
IN
MX 5 sparklist.com.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
IN MX =
10
mail.innetix.</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>org.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
IN MX =
20
mail.innetix.com. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>When I query the nameserver for mx =
record i get
this result</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>innetix.org<BR> =
origin =
ns.innetix.com<BR> mail addr =
=
hostmaster.ns.innetix.com<BR> =
serial =
2000020810<BR> refresh = =
86400 (1
day)<BR> retry = =
3600 (1
hour)<BR> expire = =
2592000 (30
days)<BR> minimum ttl = =
86400 (1 day)
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>below is the result for ls =
-d</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2> listserv &n=
bsp; &nb=
sp;
MX 5
lists.sparklist.com.<BR> listserv =
; =
MX 10
mail.innetix.org.<BR> listserv &n=
bsp; &nb=
sp;
MX 20 mail.innetix.com.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Could u tell me what I'm doing wrong. =
all help is
appreciated.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sonia.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial =
size=2>-----------------------------------<BR>
Technical Support<BR> Innetix
Inc.<BR> 408.793.2800<BR> <A
href="mailto:sonia at innetix dot com">sonia@innetix dot com</A><BR></FONT></DIV><=
/BODY></HTML>
------=_NextPart_000_012E_01BF7225.513111F0--
From: John Stevenson <JSteven1 at swst dot com>
Subject: RE: SubDomian for MX
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 13:31:42 -0600
innetix.org is not registered with internic. You have to use innetix.com if
that is what is registered to you. Also, you have to specify a
HOST.sparklist.com for the MX. I would change it as follows:
IN MX 10 sparklist.com.
IN MX 50 mail.innetix.com.
Let me know if this does not work. Here are the queries for innetix.com and
.org from InterNIC:
$ whois innetix.com
Whois Server Version 1.1
Domain names in the .com, .net, and .org domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
<http://www.internic.net>
for detailed information.
Domain Name: INNETIX.COM
Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC.
Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Referral URL: www.networksolutions.com <http://www.networksolutions.com>
Name Server: NS.ABOVE.NET
Name Server: NS.INNETIX.COM
Name Server: NS2.INNETIX.COM
Updated Date: 26-jan-2000
>>> Last update of whois database: Tue, 8 Feb 00 01:58:36 EST <<<
The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .ORG, .EDU domains and
Registrars.
[mail200:/var/log]
$ whois innetix.org
Whois Server Version 1.1
Domain names in the .com, .net, and .org domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
<http://www.internic.net>
for detailed information.
No match for "INNETIX.ORG".
>>> Last update of whois database: Tue, 8 Feb 00 01:58:36 EST <<<
The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .ORG, .EDU domains and
Registrars.
Thanks,
John Stevenson
-----Original Message-----
From: Technical Support [mailto:sonia at innetix dot com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 1:12 PM
To: qpopper at lists.pensive dot org
Subject: SubDomian for MX
Hello Group,
I'm trying to set up an MX record for a subdomain on the name server but it
is messing up the other entries. I would like all the mail coming for
listserv.innetix.org to go to sparklist.com.
my mx entry on ns record for innetix.org looks like
listserv IN MX 5 sparklist.com.
IN MX 10 mail.innetix.org.
IN MX 20 mail.innetix.com.
When I query the nameserver for mx record i get this result
innetix.org
origin = ns.innetix.com
mail addr = hostmaster.ns.innetix.com
serial = 2000020810
refresh = 86400 (1 day)
retry = 3600 (1 hour)
expire = 2592000 (30 days)
minimum ttl = 86400 (1 day)
below is the result for ls -d
listserv MX 5 lists.sparklist.com.
listserv MX 10 mail.innetix.org.
listserv MX 20 mail.innetix.com.
Could u tell me what I'm doing wrong. all help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Sonia.
-----------------------------------
Technical Support
Innetix Inc.
408.793.2800
sonia at innetix dot com <mailto:sonia at innetix dot com>
From: Alistair Blachford <alistair at zoology.ubc dot ca>
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 00 12:19:36 PST
Subject: files split during retrieve
On a SunOS 4.1.4 box running Qpopper 2.53, messages getting
downloaded to a Macintosh runnning Eudora Light 3.1 are automatically
split if they are "too large". This is *very* awkward for receiving
large attachments.
What causes this? I cannot find any relevant settings. I'm
sure that the messages are spooled in one piece on the mail host and
get split only during the transfer to the Eudora client.
Thanks for any info,
Alistair
---
Alistair Blachford
Bioscience Computing Manager | Zoology Computing Unit
Email: alistair at zoology.ubc dot ca | University of British Columbia
Phone: 604-822-2645 | 6270 University Boulevard
Fax: 604-822-2416 | Vancouver, Canada, V6T 1Z4
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 20:32:18 +0000
From: Fergal Daly <fergal at esatclear dot ie>
Subject: Re: aliasing
At 01:25 09/02/00 +1300, Alan Brown wrote:
>On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Fergal Daly wrote:
>
>> I may have things confused so bear with me. I wasn't talking about
>> cnames as mx records
>
>I know.
>
>The problem is that a cname overrides _all_ other information for the
>dns entry and _all_ its subdomains.
>
>Additionally (as a result) one cannot make example.com a CNAME for
>smtp.example.com or pop3.example.com - this is a recursive loop.
fair enough, I had a vague idea that CNAMEs could cause problem (that's why
I gave it as an aside in my original mail), now I know why, thanks.
>Setting Cnames for pop3/smtp servers usually badly breaks MX setups and
>is best avoided.
Just to stir things again, our dns uses CNAMEs for both pop and smtp
(customers' outgoing mail server), has done from the start and we have had
no problems at all. We do not use CNAMEs in the MX records though so maybe
that's why,
Fergal
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 14:39:32 -0600
From: "Julian Y. Koh" <kohster at mac dot com>
Subject: Re: files split during retrieve
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
At 14:25 -0600 2/8/2000, Alistair Blachford wrote:
> On a SunOS 4.1.4 box running Qpopper 2.53, messages getting
>downloaded to a Macintosh runnning Eudora Light 3.1 are automatically
>split if they are "too large". This is *very* awkward for receiving
>large attachments.
> What causes this?
This is a Eudora-specific setting, harking back to the old days where
Eudora used the Mac TextEdit (I think) engine, which had a limit of 32K of
text in a window. Thus, any message over ~30K or so was split into parts.
See <http://db.tidbits.com/getbits.acgi?tbart=01546> for a more thorough
explanation.
Now, this 32K limit was supposed to have been eliminated on 3.x versions
of Eudora (again, I think, but this is going rather far back in my
memory). I'll bet what happened was that Eudora on the client machine is
still using an older settings file which was created by a 2.x or 1.x
version. Thus the settings for the splitting thresholds are still in the
resource fork of the settings file. If you recreate the settings file,
all should be well.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.5.2
Comment: <http://charlotte.at.nwu.edu/julian/pgppubkey.html>
iQA/AwUBOKB/Aw5UB5zJHgFjEQIb8gCg0//Rv3/nKGaxX8uls8+ei8adq84An2OK
xthJoXts3iqvYuMNZzaWM3lH
=Jnn6
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
--
Julian Y. Koh
kohster at mac dot com
PGP Key: <http://charlotte.at.nwu.edu/julian/pgppubkey.html>
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 12:36:37 -0800
From: Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: files split during retrieve
At 12:19 PM -0800 2/8/00, Alistair Blachford wrote:
> On a SunOS 4.1.4 box running Qpopper 2.53, messages getting
>downloaded to a Macintosh runnning Eudora Light 3.1 are automatically
>split if they are "too large". This is *very* awkward for receiving
>large attachments.
> What causes this? I cannot find any relevant settings. I'm
>sure that the messages are spooled in one piece on the mail host and
>get split only during the transfer to the Eudora client.
> Thanks for any info,
>Alistair
>---
>Alistair Blachford
> Bioscience Computing Manager | Zoology Computing Unit
> Email: alistair at zoology.ubc dot ca | University of British Columbia
> Phone: 604-822-2645 | 6270 University Boulevard
> Fax: 604-822-2416 | Vancouver, Canada, V6T 1Z4
I believe this is a limitation of early versions of Eudora Light.
Try the new Eudora 4.3 beta at <http://www.qualcomm.com>. Note that
Eudora now has only one version of the product, which can operate in
three modes (light, pro, and sponsored). See the web page for
details.
--
Randall Gellens
rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com
Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only
From: "John Smith" <cronus_673 at hotmail dot com>
Subject: Quick Question
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 12:42:44 AKST
My ISP is running QPOP 2.53 on FreeBSD I wanted to get an email account from
them that had a username of greater than 8 characters, but they said QPOP
didn't support that. Is this true or is there a way to get something with
10 characters or so?
-Thanks
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 16:21:17 -0600 (CST)
From: Alex Charalabidis <alex at wnm dot net>
Subject: Re: Quick Question
On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, John Smith wrote:
> My ISP is running QPOP 2.53 on FreeBSD I wanted to get an email account from
> them that had a username of greater than 8 characters, but they said QPOP
> didn't support that. Is this true or is there a way to get something with
> 10 characters or so?
>
If the OS handles long usernames, QPOP will happily follow - I've been
using it on BSDI and FreeBSD for a long time with no problems. The
eight-character limit may apply to passwords but not to usernames.
-ac
--
==============================================================
Alex Charalabidis (AC8139) 5050 Poplar Ave, Ste 170
Systems Administrator Memphis, TN 38157
WebNet Memphis (901) 432 6000
==============================================================
Subject: Re: Quick Question
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 17:26:58 -0500
From: "Richard N. Law" <law at cerebral dot org>
> On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, John Smith wrote:
>
> > My ISP is running QPOP 2.53 on FreeBSD I wanted to get an email account fro
> > them that had a username of greater than 8 characters, but they said QPOP
> > didn't support that. Is this true or is there a way to get something with
> > 10 characters or so?
> >
> If the OS handles long usernames, QPOP will happily follow - I've been
> using it on BSDI and FreeBSD for a long time with no problems. The
> eight-character limit may apply to passwords but not to usernames.
Most un*x only recognizes the first 8 characters, but will accept more
for both username and password. While your account may be created as
hewiththeverylongname with the password INeverCanRememberThis, you could
login with hewithth and INeverCa.
Richard N. Law
Director of Development and Technology
Cerebral Institute of Discovery http://www.cerebral.org
A not-for-profit organization archiving and promoting
multi-disciplinary brain research.
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 18:09:02 -0500 (EST)
From: "A. M. Salim" <salim at localweb dot com>
Subject: Re: Quick Question
> > > My ISP is running QPOP 2.53 on FreeBSD I wanted to get an email account fro
> > > them that had a username of greater than 8 characters, but they said QPOP
> > > didn't support that. Is this true or is there a way to get something with
> > > 10 characters or so?
MD5 combined with shadow (e.g. on RedHat Linux) will take care of long
passwords, up to 254 characters I believe (or 128, I forget which)
Mike Salim
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 17:07:39 -0600 (CST)
From: Alex Charalabidis <alex at wnm dot net>
Subject: Re: Quick Question
On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Richard N. Law wrote:
> > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, John Smith wrote:
> >
> > > My ISP is running QPOP 2.53 on FreeBSD I wanted to get an email account fro
> > > them that had a username of greater than 8 characters, but they said QPOP
> > > didn't support that. Is this true or is there a way to get something with
> > > 10 characters or so?
> > >
> > If the OS handles long usernames, QPOP will happily follow - I've been
> > using it on BSDI and FreeBSD for a long time with no problems. The
> > eight-character limit may apply to passwords but not to usernames.
>
> Most un*x only recognizes the first 8 characters, but will accept more
> for both username and password. While your account may be created as
> hewiththeverylongname with the password INeverCanRememberThis, you could
> login with hewithth and INeverCa.
>
Agreed. I wasn't clear enough about the reply being BSD-specific. Long
usernames are not truncated by FreeBSD or QPOP and the combination works
fine even out of the box. I don't see what their problem is.
-ac
--
==============================================================
Alex Charalabidis (AC8139) 5050 Poplar Ave, Ste 170
Systems Administrator Memphis, TN 38157
WebNet Memphis (901) 432 6000
==============================================================
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 11:05:35 +1100
From: aunty <aunty at comcen.com dot au>
Subject: Re: Quick Question
On Tue, Feb 08, 2000 at 12:42:44PM +0000, John Smith wrote:
> My ISP is running QPOP 2.53 on FreeBSD I wanted to get an email account from
> them that had a username of greater than 8 characters, but they said QPOP
> didn't support that. Is this true or is there a way to get something with
> 10 characters or so?
If they believe their OS doesn't support usernames longer than 8
characters, they might have put your preferred longer name in the
sendmail aliases file so that you could use the long name as your email
address, while using an 8 character name as your real account name from
a unix (and therefore qpopper) perspective. Maybe they're going by past
habits and don't realise that long usernames work fine nowadays.
I never knew long names were OK for FreeBSD until I tried it myself recently.
--
Regards,
-*Sue*-
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 17:41:58 -0800
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: qpopper 2.53 and residual files
At 6:26 PM +0100 1/10/00, Gildas PERROT wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am running qpopper 2.53 and sendmail 8.9.3 on Solaris 2.6 and I found that
> sometimes files of zero or two characters are left in mailspool. Those files
> are named loginXXXXX with XXXXXX, 6 randoms characters.
>
> -rw------- 1 elsa mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./elsa0D4pzM
> -rw------- 1 elsa mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./elsaBByDq_
> -rw------- 1 elsa mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./elsaAwhrM_
> -rw------- 1 perrot mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./perrot98_YX_
> -rw------- 1 nemo mail 2 Jan 1 04:22 ./nemo0Am.64
> -rw------- 1 benizry mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./benizry0jCT6_
> -rw------- 1 benizry mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./benizry0q1DfW
> -rw------- 1 nemo mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./nemogXmog_
> -rw------- 1 benizry mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./benizrya3Scw_
> -rw------- 1 nemo mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./nemoQpo6Y_
> -rw------- 1 benizry mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./benizry0QIMBA
> -rw------- 1 benizry mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./benizry0.T_kx
> -rw------- 1 nemo mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./nemo02HDuJ
> -rw------- 1 nemo mail 2 Jan 1 04:39 ./nemoOWRGF_
>
> Any idea about that problem ? Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Gildas.
> --
> Gildas PERROT, perrot at francenet dot fr __o
> FranceNet, 28 rue Desaix, 75015 Paris ---_ \<,_
> http://www.francenet.fr ---- (_)/ (_)
These might be temporary files from users sending mail with XTND
XMIT, but I thought those were named TMPxxxxxx. If qpopper is run
with the -t or -d flags, these files are not deleted. They should be
bigger than 2 bytes, though.
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 17:51:30 -0800 (PST)
From: Ryan Ordway <ryan at gstis dot net>
Subject: Re: qpopper 2.53 and residual files
I noticed this same behavior doing a stress test, where I sent a
bajillion e-mails at the box. Sendmail 8.9.3 on Solaris 2.7 using procmail as
the local mailer, Qpopper 2.53 in APOP mode. I noticed that these files
started being generated when mail spools reached large sizes, perhaps problems
with the file I/O.
Ryan
--
Ryan Ordway * Systems Administrator * GST Whole Earth Networks
520 SW 6th Ave. Suite 300, Portland, OR 97204
On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Qpopper Support wrote:
>At 6:26 PM +0100 1/10/00, Gildas PERROT wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am running qpopper 2.53 and sendmail 8.9.3 on Solaris 2.6 and I found that
>> sometimes files of zero or two characters are left in mailspool. Those files
>> are named loginXXXXX with XXXXXX, 6 randoms characters.
>>
>> -rw------- 1 elsa mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./elsa0D4pzM
>> -rw------- 1 elsa mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./elsaBByDq_
>> -rw------- 1 elsa mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./elsaAwhrM_
>> -rw------- 1 perrot mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./perrot98_YX_
>> -rw------- 1 nemo mail 2 Jan 1 04:22 ./nemo0Am.64
>> -rw------- 1 benizry mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./benizry0jCT6_
>> -rw------- 1 benizry mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./benizry0q1DfW
>> -rw------- 1 nemo mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./nemogXmog_
>> -rw------- 1 benizry mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./benizrya3Scw_
>> -rw------- 1 nemo mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./nemoQpo6Y_
>> -rw------- 1 benizry mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./benizry0QIMBA
>> -rw------- 1 benizry mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./benizry0.T_kx
>> -rw------- 1 nemo mail 2 Jan 1 04:40 ./nemo02HDuJ
>> -rw------- 1 nemo mail 2 Jan 1 04:39 ./nemoOWRGF_
>>
>> Any idea about that problem ? Thanks in advance for your help.
>>
>> Gildas.
>> --
>> Gildas PERROT, perrot at francenet dot fr __o
>> FranceNet, 28 rue Desaix, 75015 Paris ---_ \<,_
>> http://www.francenet.fr ---- (_)/ (_)
>
>
>These might be temporary files from users sending mail with XTND
>XMIT, but I thought those were named TMPxxxxxx. If qpopper is run
>with the -t or -d flags, these files are not deleted. They should be
>bigger than 2 bytes, though.
>
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:00:22 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: Quick Question
On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, A. M. Salim wrote:
> MD5 combined with shadow (e.g. on RedHat Linux) will take care of long
> passwords, up to 254 characters I believe (or 128, I forget which)
Yes, but eudora and friends only support 11 character passwords, so
setting a long password can quite effectively lock the user out of his
mailbox.
AB
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 09:40:57 +0200
From: Raphael Maseko <ralph at zamnet dot zm>
Subject: Re: Quick Question
AC,
The default addusers script will not allow you to create an account with more that
8 characters..what method do you use to get round this?
For John, the quick way round your ISP setup would be to convince them to allow
you use that long email address and just put an entry in the aliases file to allow
mapping to a shorter username that their system is happy with. This will, however,
mean that your pop login in name will be different from that in your email
address.
Ralph
Alex Charalabidis wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, John Smith wrote:
>
> > My ISP is running QPOP 2.53 on FreeBSD I wanted to get an email account from
> > them that had a username of greater than 8 characters, but they said QPOP
> > didn't support that. Is this true or is there a way to get something with
> > 10 characters or so?
> >
> If the OS handles long usernames, QPOP will happily follow - I've been
> using it on BSDI and FreeBSD for a long time with no problems. The
> eight-character limit may apply to passwords but not to usernames.
>
> -ac
>
> --
> ==============================================================
> Alex Charalabidis (AC8139) 5050 Poplar Ave, Ste 170
> Systems Administrator Memphis, TN 38157
> WebNet Memphis (901) 432 6000
> ==============================================================
--
*******************************************************
Raphael Maseko
Commmunications Engineer
ZAMNET Communication Systems Ltd
Box 22180, Kitwe
E:mail: ralph at zamnet dot zm
Website: http://www.zamnet.zm
From: "penda paul" <paul_penda at hotmail dot com>
Subject: MRTG-2.8.11
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 07:19:34 PST
hi,
Running my mrtg produces the error following :
Rateup WARNING: .//rateup could not read the primary log file for border
Rateup WARNING: .//rateup The backup log file for border was invalid as well
Rateup WARNING: .//rateup Can't remove border.old updating log file
Rateup WARNING: .//rateup Can't rename border.log to border.old updating log
file
I deleted border.old and log and rerun mrtg but i got the same errors.
How to do to fix this problem ?
I'm using mrtg-2.8.11
Regards.
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 09:23:29 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph W. Breu" <breu at cfu dot net>
Subject: Re: MRTG-2.8.11
Is it me, or is this just a qpopper list?
On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, penda paul wrote:
> hi,
>
> Running my mrtg produces the error following :
>
> Rateup WARNING: .//rateup could not read the primary log file for border
> Rateup WARNING: .//rateup The backup log file for border was invalid as well
> Rateup WARNING: .//rateup Can't remove border.old updating log file
> Rateup WARNING: .//rateup Can't rename border.log to border.old updating log
> file
> I deleted border.old and log and rerun mrtg but i got the same errors.
>
> How to do to fix this problem ?
>
> I'm using mrtg-2.8.11
>
> Regards.
> ______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
--
Thanks,
-Joseph W. Breu
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph W. Breu Linux/UNIX Administrator / Cedar Falls Utilities
phone: (319) 268-5228 Utility Parkway, Cedar Falls, Iowa 50613
pager: (319) 235-4209 NIC: jwb96 breu at cfu.net breu dot pager at cfu dot net
---- Al Gore: "...I took the initiative in creating the Internet. -----
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 07:32:13 -0800
From: Sandy Lloyd <slloyd at ghc.ctc dot edu>
Subject: Re: Quick Question
on HP-UX 10.20 long user names are still a problem - you are limited to 8
and yes, aliasing a longer name is very useful but I don't suppose an isp
would want to start doing that for individual users - especially if they
had 1000's.... of course, using the aliases file only re-directs incoming
mail to the long username to the "real" or shorteruser name which you would
have to use to retrieve the mail....
sandy
At 04:05 PM 2/8/00 , aunty wrote:
>On Tue, Feb 08, 2000 at 12:42:44PM +0000, John Smith wrote:
> > My ISP is running QPOP 2.53 on FreeBSD I wanted to get an email account
> from
> > them that had a username of greater than 8 characters, but they said QPOP
> > didn't support that. Is this true or is there a way to get something with
> > 10 characters or so?
>
>If they believe their OS doesn't support usernames longer than 8
>characters, they might have put your preferred longer name in the
>sendmail aliases file so that you could use the long name as your email
>address, while using an 8 character name as your real account name from
>a unix (and therefore qpopper) perspective. Maybe they're going by past
>habits and don't realise that long usernames work fine nowadays.
>I never knew long names were OK for FreeBSD until I tried it myself recently.
>
>--
>
>Regards,
> -*Sue*-
>
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:43:06 +0100 (CET)
From: Sebastian Stark <stark at komcept dot de>
Subject: Re: MRTG-2.8.11
On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, penda paul wrote:
> Running my mrtg produces the error following :
what has this to do with qpopper??????
seb
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 12:58:19 -0300
From: Williams Martinez <willie at uncoma.edu dot ar>
Subject: Re: MRTG-2.8.11
"Joseph W. Breu" wrote:
> Is it me, or is this just a qpopper list?
>
> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, penda paul wrote:
>
No, it IS a Qpopper list.... I'm sure there is a MRTG list somewhere.
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:29:19 -0600 (CST)
From: Frank Zhang <fzhang at hsc.unt dot edu>
Subject: .pop file
Hi:
I am new to qpopper.
We are running Solaris 2.6, and qpopper2.53
When we pop the email off the server, it modify the email file
/var/mail/uername, does not create .pop file. Is it normal? If I want to
create .pop file whenever the user try to pop their email , can I do that?
Or , .pop file has been created, I just don't know where they are ?
The reason I want to create .pop file is, I will know user has popped
his/her email. Otherwise how can I know?
Thanks
Frank Zhang
UNIX Systems Administrator
University of North Texas Health Science Center
Telephone: (817)735-2431
Email: fzhang at hsc.unt dot edu
From: John Stevenson <JSteven1 at swst dot com>
Subject: RE: .pop file
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:43:53 -0600
Yes, That is normail. When a users checks their mail for thefirst time it
will create that file...
my .pop files are in /usr/mail and the mail direcroty is /var/mail.
Thanks,
John.
-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Zhang [mailto:fzhang at hsc.unt dot edu]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 10:29 AM
To: qpopper at lists.pensive dot org
Subject: .pop file
Hi:
I am new to qpopper.
We are running Solaris 2.6, and qpopper2.53
When we pop the email off the server, it modify the email file
/var/mail/uername, does not create .pop file. Is it normal? If I want to
create .pop file whenever the user try to pop their email , can I do that?
Or , .pop file has been created, I just don't know where they are ?
The reason I want to create .pop file is, I will know user has popped
his/her email. Otherwise how can I know?
Thanks
Frank Zhang
UNIX Systems Administrator
University of North Texas Health Science Center
Telephone: (817)735-2431
Email: fzhang at hsc.unt dot edu
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:52:22 -0600 (CST)
From: Frank Zhang <fzhang at hsc.unt dot edu>
Subject: RE: .pop file
Thank you for replying my email, John.
It did not create .pop file for me, that is the problem. It did create
.pop file for you, right ?
Thanks
Frank Zhang
UNIX Systems Administrator
University of North Texas Health Science Center
Telephone: (817)735-2431
Email: fzhang at hsc.unt dot edu
On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, John Stevenson wrote:
> Yes, That is normail. When a users checks their mail for thefirst time it
> will create that file...
> my .pop files are in /usr/mail and the mail direcroty is /var/mail.
>
> Thanks,
> John.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Zhang [mailto:fzhang at hsc.unt dot edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 10:29 AM
> To: qpopper at lists.pensive dot org
> Subject: .pop file
>
>
> Hi:
> I am new to qpopper.
> We are running Solaris 2.6, and qpopper2.53
> When we pop the email off the server, it modify the email file
> /var/mail/uername, does not create .pop file. Is it normal? If I want to
> create .pop file whenever the user try to pop their email , can I do that?
> Or , .pop file has been created, I just don't know where they are ?
> The reason I want to create .pop file is, I will know user has popped
> his/her email. Otherwise how can I know?
> Thanks
>
> Frank Zhang
> UNIX Systems Administrator
> University of North Texas Health Science Center
> Telephone: (817)735-2431
> Email: fzhang at hsc.unt dot edu
>