The qpopper list archive ending on 14 Mar 2000


Topics covered in this issue include:

  1. mailboxes getting duplicated
       Rea Simpson <simpson6 at llnl dot gov>
       Fri, 10 Mar 2000 13:21:49 -0800 (PST)
  2. Re: Request for comments:  POP server disk layout.
       "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
       Fri, 10 Mar 2000 14:17:41 -0800
  3. Changes to qpopper
       Martin Bene <mb at sime dot com>
       Fri, 10 Mar 2000 23:13:56 +0100
  4. Re: mailboxes getting duplicated
       Gary Harris <gary at konnekted dot com>
       Fri, 10 Mar 2000 16:21:04 -0600
  5. Re: Changes to qpopper
       "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
       Fri, 10 Mar 2000 15:39:50 -0800
  6. Re: mailboxes getting duplicated
       Rea Simpson <simpson6 at llnl dot gov>
       Fri, 10 Mar 2000 15:54:09 -0800 (PST)
  7. Re: Changes to qpopper
       Rea Simpson <simpson6 at llnl dot gov>
       Fri, 10 Mar 2000 16:02:11 -0800 (PST)
  8. Re: mailboxes getting duplicated
       Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
       Sat, 11 Mar 2000 14:44:26 +1300 (NZDT)
  9. Re: mailboxes getting duplicated
       Patricia Max <pam at lampinc dot com>
       Fri, 10 Mar 2000 19:18:21 -0700 (MST)
 10. Re: mailboxes getting duplicated
       Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
       Sat, 11 Mar 2000 16:40:39 +1300 (NZDT)
 11. Re: mailboxes getting duplicated
       Rea Simpson <simpson6 at llnl dot gov>
       Fri, 10 Mar 2000 20:21:39 -0800 (PST)
 12. Re: mailboxes getting duplicated
       Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
       Sat, 11 Mar 2000 17:26:58 +1300 (NZDT)
 13. Qpopper 3.0b36 available
       Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
       Fri, 10 Mar 2000 21:13:25 -0800
 14. Re: Qpopper 3.0b36 available
       "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
       Fri, 10 Mar 2000 21:45:14 -0800
 15. Patch
       Paulo Santos <psantos at gol.com dot br>
       Sat, 11 Mar 2000 03:24:49 -0300
 16. Re: mailboxes getting duplicated
       Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
       Fri, 10 Mar 2000 22:37:01 -0800
 17. Re: Patch
       "Mitch Vincent" <mitch at venux dot net>
       Sat, 11 Mar 2000 01:46:00 -0500
 18. Re: mailboxes getting duplicated
       Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
       Sat, 11 Mar 2000 19:50:39 +1300 (NZDT)
 19. Re: mailboxes getting duplicated
       Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
       Sat, 11 Mar 2000 00:41:34 -0800
 20. Re: mailboxes getting duplicated
       Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
       Sat, 11 Mar 2000 21:56:46 +1300 (NZDT)
 21. Re: mailboxes getting duplicated
       Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
       Sat, 11 Mar 2000 02:19:46 -0800
 22. Re: mailboxes getting duplicated
       Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
       Sat, 11 Mar 2000 23:26:33 +1300 (NZDT)
 23. Re: mailboxes getting duplicated
       Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
       Sat, 11 Mar 2000 02:22:46 -0800
 24. mail directory for qpopper and how to alter?
       Peter Rose <acsupply at acsupply.demon.co dot uk>
       Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:13:13 +0000
 25. Re: mailboxes getting duplicated
       Eric Luyten <eluyten at vub.ac dot be>
       Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:59:13 +0100 (MET)
 26. Technical Support
       Manuel Nogales Casares <mnogales at csi.uned dot es>
       Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:46:48 +0100
 27. Re: mail directory for qpopper and how to alter?
       "Renato R. Santana" <renato at contacto.com dot br>
       Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:20:13 -0300
 28. buffer overflows?
       Reinhard Zierke <zierke at informatik.uni-hamburg dot de>
       Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:29:44 +0100
 29. Re: Technical Support 
       Didier Chalm <Didier.Chalm at shom dot fr>
       Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:47:13 +0100
 30. Re: Technical Support 
       Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
       Tue, 14 Mar 2000 02:06:52 +1300 (NZDT)
 31. Re: buffer overflows?
       Renato Murilo Langona <renato at linux.redebrasil.org dot br>
       Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:47:09 -0300
 32. how to exclude myself from the list.
       "sandeep periwal" <periwal at vsnl dot com>
       Mon, 13 Mar 2000 19:48:03 +0530
 33. Bulletin Problems
       Mike Walter <mike at pcdnet dot net>
       Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:55:11 -0500
 34. Re: how to exclude myself from the list.
       Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
       Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:57:11 -0800
 35. Re: buffer overflows?
       Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
       Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:04:52 -0800
 36. Re: mail directory for qpopper and how to alter?
       Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
       Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:08:09 -0800
 37. Re: Bulletin Problems
       Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
       Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:59:47 -0800
 38. Re: bulletins override compiled value
       Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
       Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:42:54 -0500
 39. qpopper3.0b36 compile error on FreeBSD
       Forrest Aldrich <forrie at forrie dot com>
       Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:20:53 -0500
 40. RE: mailboxes getting duplicated
       "Froylan Armando Loaiza Villanueva" <floaiza at pemex dot com>
       Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:34:37 -0600
 41. Auto_delete & and exceptions file?
       Derrick MacPherson <derrick at web.mercuryfilmworks dot com>
       Tue, 14 Mar 2000 00:10:42 -0800 (PST)
 42. forward
       Manuel Nogales Casares <mnogales at csi.uned dot es>
       Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:30:01 +0100
 43. Re: forward
       Kendall Lister <kendall at charon.net dot au>
       Tue, 14 Mar 2000 19:44:43 +1100 (EST)
 44. RE: mailboxes getting duplicated
       Doc Gorby <tgorby at emc dot com>
       Tue, 14 Mar 2000 05:00:14 -0500 (EST)
 45. qpopper on HPUX 11
       "Stephan Hendl" <Stephan.Hendl at lds.brandenburg dot de>
       Tue, 14 Mar 2000 14:40:13 +0100
 46. Re: mailboxes getting duplicated
       Eric Luyten <eluyten at vub.ac dot be>
       Tue, 14 Mar 2000 14:50:27 +0100 (MET)
 47. One- or two-level mailspool hashing ?
       Eric Luyten <eluyten at vub.ac dot be>
       Tue, 14 Mar 2000 14:57:35 +0100 (MET)
 48. Re: qpopper on HPUX 11
       Gareth Marlow <Gareth_Marlow at scientia dot com>
       Tue, 14 Mar 2000 14:16:04 +0000
 49. Antw: Re: qpopper on HPUX 11
       "Stephan Hendl" <Stephan.Hendl at lds.brandenburg dot de>
       Tue, 14 Mar 2000 15:35:06 +0100
 50. Re: qpopper on HPUX 11
       "Alexander Kiselev" <akiselev at mow-co.ru.dhl dot com>
       Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:31:35 +0300

Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 13:21:49 -0800 (PST)
From: Rea Simpson <simpson6 at llnl dot gov>
Subject: mailboxes getting duplicated

Hi,

We're running qpopper version 2.5 and have recently noticed a problem
where sometimes after a after an "-ERR POP EOF received" or a
"lock busy!  Is another session active?" error is logged, that 
the users mailbox has been doubled in size.  In other words a 
second copy of the whole mailbox has been appended to the end.  

Here's and example of what I see in the log:

Mar  7 15:42:30 SERVER.llnl.gov popper[4808]: Stats: user1 0 0 212 194851404
Mar  7 15:46:18 SERVER.llnl.gov popper[7159]: Stats: user1 0 0 212 194851404
Mar  7 15:50:23 SERVER.llnl.gov popper[9326]: Stats: user1 0 0 212 194851404
Mar  7 15:54:22 SERVER.llnl.gov popper[11548]: Stats: user1 0 0 212 194851404
Mar  7 15:58:18 SERVER.llnl.gov popper[13919]: Stats: user1 1 1456 212 194851
404
Mar  7 16:02:36 SERVER.llnl.gov popper[17336]: Stats: user1 0 0 212 194851404
Mar  7 16:07:20 SERVER.llnl.gov popper[21871]: Stats: user1 0 0 213 194860480
Mar  7 16:13:25 SERVER.llnl.gov popper[24812]: user1 at client.llnl dot gov: -ERR PO
P EOF received
Mar  7 16:13:25 SERVER.llnl.gov popper[24812]: Stats: user1 0 0 427 389722611
Mar  7 16:19:34 SERVER.llnl.gov popper[27109]: user1 at client.llnl dot gov: -ERR PO
P EOF received
Mar  7 16:19:34 SERVER.llnl.gov popper[27109]: Stats: user1 0 0 427 389722622
Mar  7 16:25:25 SERVER.llnl.gov popper[1243]: Stats: user1 3 19814 424 389702
808
Mar  7 16:30:51 SERVER.llnl.gov popper[5662]: Stats: user1 0 0 424 389702808

You can see that the user had 212 messages stored on the server, then
we had some EOF errors and after they finally sucessfully download the 3
new messages they now have 424 messages left.  This happened twice
more for this user and they ended up with 1.5 GB left on the server
which promptly brought the problem to our attention.  In the case of 
this user, they are leaving messages > than a certain size on the server.

I wrote a script to see how many other mailboxes had the same
problem and I found ~68 users affected out of our ~8000 accounts.

I've read the Changes file for the beta versions and don't see
any mention of this problem.  I can't find info on what's new
in 2.53.

Any info on this problem would be appreciated.  

thanks,
Rea Simpson
Lawrence Livermore National Lab.


From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 14:17:41 -0800
Subject: Re: Request for comments:  POP server disk layout.

On Thu, 09 Mar 2000 23:00:07 PST, John Kozubik wrote:

>slice0, 100 megs, /
>slice1, 128 megs, SWAP
>slice2, 100 megs, /usr
>slice3, 7000 megs, /var

How about adding a /tmp partition, close to the /var partition, for
qpopper's backup of the spool file? That allows you to set a quota on
/var that won't be overrun by the temporary backup files.

Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/



Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 23:13:56 +0100
From: Martin Bene <mb at sime dot com>
Subject: Changes to qpopper

With each new release of qpopper, there's a few changes I generaly make; 
I'd like to have some feedback on them:

* turn off the check in user.c that prevents authentication with 
user/password if an entry in the authentication database exists for 
apop/scram-md5.

* change poppasswd to accept an aditional parameter which lets it read a 
password from stdin instead of prompting for it.

Reason for these changes: When creating users, I want to set them up so 
they can use either user/pass or apop or scram-md5. If their clients 
support a secure authentication -> fine, if the client can't do anything 
but user/password -> also fine. Forcing the user to fiddle with additional 
setup tools to configure the server side and rejecting user/pass after 
apop/scram is set up would result in reduced use of secure authentication 
and/or increased number of support calls.

* add a small auth_sendmail module that enters username and login-IP 
directly into a database file usable by sendmail for smtp-after-pop;

Reason: much less overhead than writing to a log , parsing the log and then 
doing the database update. The disadvantage is that it only works if 
smtp-server=pop server.

Additional stuff which could be nice:

* if authenticatin via user/passwd, optionally update the authentication 
database so apop/scram would be available next time. could only be used if 
user.c check is turned off.

* change scram authentication to check against apop-cleartext password if 
no scram secret is defined and apop cleartext password is available. Would 
be nice when upgrading hundreds of users that already have apop stuff set up.

* I just started looking into something else: there's a very nice library 
for SASL authentication from the cyrus folks. Sendmail 8.10 already uses 
this for their authentication stuff - looks like it sould be fairly easy to 
use the library instead of reimplementing the sasl stuff yet another time. 
Bonus: we'd get a bunch of additional authentication mechanisms thrown in 
for free (the library currently supports CRAM-MD5 DIGEST-MD5 GSSAPI (MIT 
Kerberos 5 or Heimdal Kerberos 5) KERBEROS_V4 PLAIN LOGIN; PLAIN/LOGIN are 
cleartext and should only be used on SSL links).

Any comments?

Bye, Martin
"you have moved your mouse, please reboot to make this change take effect"
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  simon media               fax: +43-316-813824-6
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 16:21:04 -0600
From: Gary Harris <gary at konnekted dot com>
Subject: Re: mailboxes getting duplicated

I've had a couple of customers complain that sometimes they just get
their whole mailbox again for no reason.  Sound like your problem.

I'm running 2.53 on Solaris 7 on Sparc, and this seems like a fairly
rare yet aggravating enough to gain my attention problem.

<SNIP>
> 
> You can see that the user had 212 messages stored on the server, then
> we had some EOF errors and after they finally sucessfully download the 3
> new messages they now have 424 messages left.  This happened twice
> more for this user and they ended up with 1.5 GB left on the server
> which promptly brought the problem to our attention.  In the case of
> this user, they are leaving messages > than a certain size on the server.
> 
> I wrote a script to see how many other mailboxes had the same
> problem and I found ~68 users affected out of our ~8000 accounts.
> 
> I've read the Changes file for the beta versions and don't see
> any mention of this problem.  I can't find info on what's new
> in 2.53.
> 
> Any info on this problem would be appreciated.
> 
> thanks,
> Rea Simpson
> Lawrence Livermore National Lab.

-- 
Gary at konnekted dot com
------------------------------
http://www.konnekted.com/
------------------------------

From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 15:39:50 -0800
Subject: Re: Changes to qpopper

On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 23:13:56 +0100, Martin Bene wrote:

>* turn off the check in user.c that prevents authentication with 
>user/password if an entry in the authentication database exists for 
>apop/scram-md5.

As a configure option, presumably.

>* change poppasswd to accept an aditional parameter which lets it read a 
>password from stdin instead of prompting for it.

Yes, for setting from user-creation scripts or web pages.

>* add a small auth_sendmail module that enters username and login-IP 
>directly into a database file usable by sendmail for smtp-after-pop;
>
>Reason: much less overhead than writing to a log , parsing the log and then 
>doing the database update. The disadvantage is that it only works if 
>smtp-server=pop server.

Better would be to write the username to a FIFO. Run a separate daemon
to listen on the FIFO and do whatever magic is required, such as
forwarding the name to another server running sendmail.

>* I just started looking into something else: there's a very nice library 
>for SASL authentication from the cyrus folks. Sendmail 8.10 already uses 
>this for their authentication stuff - looks like it sould be fairly easy to 
>use the library instead of reimplementing the sasl stuff yet another time. 
>Bonus: we'd get a bunch of additional authentication mechanisms thrown in 
>for free (the library currently supports CRAM-MD5 DIGEST-MD5 GSSAPI (MIT 
>Kerberos 5 or Heimdal Kerberos 5) KERBEROS_V4 PLAIN LOGIN; PLAIN/LOGIN are 
>cleartext and should only be used on SSL links).

Would this make it easier to set up secure POP3? Currently one must run
stunnel as a POP3 proxy that forwards requests to the real pop server.
I note that one can't get a secure TLS-based sendmail through the open
source site (www.sendmail.org) but can only buy this in the commercial
version (www.sendmail.com) because of export restrictions. I guess
since the Cyrus stuff that implements smtp-auth is external to
sendmail, it's not subject to the same problems, but I thought
encryption hooks were just as much a violation as encryption itself.

I would love to see an end to cleartext passwords on unsecure links.

Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/



Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 15:54:09 -0800 (PST)
From: Rea Simpson <simpson6 at llnl dot gov>
Subject: Re: mailboxes getting duplicated

Actually we've seen this too, but not with the users who've
had their mailbox doubled.  In the doubling case they do not
download a second copy.  

thanks,
Rea Simpson
Lawrence Livermore National Lab.


On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Gary Harris wrote:

> I've had a couple of customers complain that sometimes they just get
> their whole mailbox again for no reason.  Sound like your problem.
> 
> I'm running 2.53 on Solaris 7 on Sparc, and this seems like a fairly
> rare yet aggravating enough to gain my attention problem.
> 
> <SNIP>
> > 
> > You can see that the user had 212 messages stored on the server, then
> > we had some EOF errors and after they finally sucessfully download the 3
> > new messages they now have 424 messages left.  This happened twice
> > more for this user and they ended up with 1.5 GB left on the server
> > which promptly brought the problem to our attention.  In the case of
> > this user, they are leaving messages > than a certain size on the server.
> > 
> > I wrote a script to see how many other mailboxes had the same
> > problem and I found ~68 users affected out of our ~8000 accounts.
> > 
> > I've read the Changes file for the beta versions and don't see
> > any mention of this problem.  I can't find info on what's new
> > in 2.53.
> > 
> > Any info on this problem would be appreciated.
> > 
> > thanks,
> > Rea Simpson
> > Lawrence Livermore National Lab.
> 
> -- 
> Gary at konnekted dot com
> ------------------------------
> http://www.konnekted.com/
> ------------------------------
> 


Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 16:02:11 -0800 (PST)
From: Rea Simpson <simpson6 at llnl dot gov>
Subject: Re: Changes to qpopper

We also make modifications similar to the ones below:

On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Martin Bene wrote:

> With each new release of qpopper, there's a few changes I generaly make; 
> I'd like to have some feedback on them:
> 
> * turn off the check in user.c that prevents authentication with 
> user/password if an entry in the authentication database exists for 
> apop/scram-md5.
> 
> * add a small auth_sendmail module that enters username and login-IP 
> directly into a database file usable by sendmail for smtp-after-pop;
> 
> * if authenticatin via user/passwd, optionally update the authentication 
> database so apop/scram would be available next time. could only be used if 
> user.c check is turned off.
> 

Rea Simpson
Lawrence Livermore National Lab.


Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 14:44:26 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: mailboxes getting duplicated

On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Rea Simpson wrote:

> Actually we've seen this too, but not with the users who've
> had their mailbox doubled.  In the doubling case they do not
> download a second copy.  

This used to be fairly common when eudora 2.0 was widely used.

It's caused by a combination of client side message download timeout
settings, large individual messages and bad disconnection procedures.

What it comes down to is that in this age of multimedia attchments, 60
seconds is nowhere near long enough to download a message across a
dialup.

MUA authors (Qualcomm!), please take note. If a dialup is being used,
the individual message timer needs to either be charactyer based or set
to at least 600 seconds for an individual message.

AB


Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 19:18:21 -0700 (MST)
From: Patricia Max <pam at lampinc dot com>
Subject: Re: mailboxes getting duplicated

I've seen problems with mailboxes getting doubled also.  This occured
on my solaris server running qpopper3.0b30 when mail is read from
NT machines running outlook express.

Has anyone else seen this problem under the above conditions?


Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 16:40:39 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: mailboxes getting duplicated

On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Patricia Max wrote:

> I've seen problems with mailboxes getting doubled also.  This occured
> on my solaris server running qpopper3.0b30 when mail is read from
> NT machines running outlook express.
> 
> Has anyone else seen this problem under the above conditions?

Yes, same cause. Increase the outlook express message collection timeout.

AB


Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 20:21:39 -0800 (PST)
From: Rea Simpson <simpson6 at llnl dot gov>
Subject: Re: mailboxes getting duplicated

On Sat, 11 Mar 2000, Alan Brown wrote:

> On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Patricia Max wrote:
> 
> > I've seen problems with mailboxes getting doubled also.  This occured
> > on my solaris server running qpopper3.0b30 when mail is read from
> > NT machines running outlook express.
> > 
> > Has anyone else seen this problem under the above conditions?
> 
> Yes, same cause. Increase the outlook express message collection timeout.
> 
> AB
> 

Just to clarify, this is a doubling of the mailbox size on the server
and not an additional download of the messages to the client?   Both
issues were being discussed earlier.

I need to check with the owners of the mailboxes to see if they are
using Outlook in my case.

Thanks!
Rea


Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 17:26:58 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: mailboxes getting duplicated

On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Rea Simpson wrote:

> Just to clarify, this is a doubling of the mailbox size on the server
> and not an additional download of the messages to the client? 

Doubled mailboxes on the server may or may not be downloaded, depending
on how UIDL calculations are made - if they're not recalculated each
time (this is a qpopper compile-time setting), the messages will not be
downloaded again as the UIDL: line is stored in the mailbox and can be
matched by the mail client to a previously downloaded message.

This in turn leads to messages sitting on the server, eventually hitting
quota limits. 

Until quota limits are hit, qpopper still needs to parse all the
messages in the mailbox, which usully results in user complaints of
startup being very slow or the client aborting at this stage instead of
during message download.

AB


Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 21:13:25 -0800
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Qpopper 3.0b36 available

Qpopper 3.0b36 is available at 
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/>.

A somewhat abbreviated change list is on the Qpopper web site at 
<http://www.qpopper.org/changelist.html>

The full list of changes from one beta release to the next is on the 
FTP site, at 
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/Changes>.

The 3.0 release notes are at: 
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/Release.Notes>.

This distribution also includes an updated License.txt file, which 
clarifies the terms and conditions for use, modification, and 
redistribution of Qpopper.



Changes from 3.0b35 to 3.0b36
-----------------------------

  1.  End of message logged if even TRACE_MSG_BODY not defined.
  2.  Added '--enable-group-bulls' to show bulletins by groups
      (group name is second element in bulletin name).  Based on
      patch by Mikolaj Rydzewski.
  3.  Added AIX patch contributed by Nik Conwell
  4.  Added trace call when ready for user input.
  5.  Made additional adjustments for hidden messages.
  6.  Trace calls in genpath() and maillock() now depend on DEBUG
      as well as -t or -d.
  7.  Bulletin errors no longer reported in -ERR response.
  8.  Reordered #include lines to help SCO Unixware.
  9.  Changed AUTH to SPEC_POP_AUTH to avoid conflicts with RPC .h files.
10.  Various tweaks to appease certain compilers.
11.  Additional change suggested by Jacques Distler for NEXT systems.
12.  Changed 'test -x' to 'test -r' in ./configure because not all
      systems support '-x' (*sigh*).
13.  Fix message logged when -ERR response sent
14.  Fix some log entries when user not yet known.

From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 21:45:14 -0800
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.0b36 available

On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 21:13:25 -0800, Qpopper Support wrote:

>Qpopper 3.0b36 is available at 
><ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/>.

In common/maillock.c, line 448, is the code

    if ( *szLock != NULL ) {

This should presumably be

    if ( *szLock != '\0') {

The code will work, but a warning is issued during compilation (on Red
Hat 6.1).

Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/



Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 03:24:49 -0300
From: Paulo Santos <psantos at gol.com dot br>
Subject: Patch

Hello Poppers,

Well, let's to a new version.. B36 it's run.
and we are looking for a way to run this versions into our MySQL, yet!

there are any agnostic or christian guy who can help me and tell me:
there are a way to make a patch (or how can I to make it) run
Qpopper + MySQL ?!?!?

Thanks in advance!

Paulo Santos



Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 22:37:01 -0800
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: mailboxes getting duplicated

At 4:40 PM +1300 3/11/00, Alan Brown wrote:

>On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Patricia Max wrote:
>
>>  I've seen problems with mailboxes getting doubled also.  This occured
>>  on my solaris server running qpopper3.0b30 when mail is read from
>>  NT machines running outlook express.
>>
>>  Has anyone else seen this problem under the above conditions?
>
>Yes, same cause. Increase the outlook express message collection timeout.

Can you tell me how to reproduce this?


From: "Mitch Vincent" <mitch at venux dot net>
Subject: Re: Patch
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 01:46:00 -0500

http://www.netd.co.za/mysql_mail/


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Paulo Santos <psantos at gol.com dot br>
To: Subscribers of Qpopper <qpopper at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2000 1:24 AM
Subject: Patch


> Hello Poppers,
> 
> Well, let's to a new version.. B36 it's run.
> and we are looking for a way to run this versions into our MySQL, yet!
> 
> there are any agnostic or christian guy who can help me and tell me:
> there are a way to make a patch (or how can I to make it) run
> Qpopper + MySQL ?!?!?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Paulo Santos
> 
> 
> 


Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 19:50:39 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: mailboxes getting duplicated

On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Qpopper Support wrote:

> >Yes, same cause. Increase the outlook express message collection timeout.
> 
> Can you tell me how to reproduce this?

use Eudora 2.0 or earlier on a modem link, with a large message that
will take longer than 60 seconds to download.

Or, use MS Outlook Express, with a large message that will take longer
than 2 minutes to downlod (that's the OE default).

For added affect, do it on a mailbox which has 20+ messages in it.

AB


Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 00:41:34 -0800
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: mailboxes getting duplicated

At 7:50 PM +1300 3/11/00, Alan Brown wrote:

>On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Qpopper Support wrote:
>
>>  >Yes, same cause. Increase the outlook express message collection timeout.
>>
>>  Can you tell me how to reproduce this?
>
>use Eudora 2.0 or earlier on a modem link, with a large message that
>will take longer than 60 seconds to download.
>
>Or, use MS Outlook Express, with a large message that will take longer
>than 2 minutes to downlod (that's the OE default).
>
>For added affect, do it on a mailbox which has 20+ messages in it.
>
>AB

I'll also need details of the Qpopper configuration options.  Is 
server mode used?  Does this happen with current 3.0 versions?

During testing, I have created a spool file with several *very* large 
messages (I have a program which generates messages of any desired 
size), and testing disconnecting the client and various other errors. 
I've never gotten the spool file to double, so if you can reproduce 
it, there must be something you're doing that I'm not.

Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 21:56:46 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: mailboxes getting duplicated

On Sat, 11 Mar 2000, Qpopper Support wrote:

> I'll also need details of the Qpopper configuration options.  Is 
> server mode used?  Does this happen with current 3.0 versions?

server mode required, 2.52 or earlier are more prone to it.

I don't use 3.0 (yet), however 2.54 still has it happen, only far less
frequently than previous versions.

Under 2.4 - which I know had lots of trouble here with this problem, I
had these flags set:

DEFS            =       -DHAVE_CONFIG_H \
                        -Dcrypt=pw_encrypt \
                        -DBULLDIR=\"/var/spool/popper/bulletins\" \
                        -DAUTHFILE=\"/etc/pop.authfile\" \
                        -DNONAUTHFILE=\"/etc/pop.nonauthfile\" \
                        -DAUTH \
                        -DDEBUG \
                        -DKEEP_TEMP_DROP \
                        -DPOPUID=\"postmaster\" \
                        -DNO_STATUS \
                        -DBULLDB \
                        -DCHECK_SHELL \
                        -DAPOP=\"/etc/pop.apop-auth\" \
                        -DSERVER_MODE \

O_DEFS          =        -DLINUX


> During testing, I have created a spool file with several *very* large 
> messages (I have a program which generates messages of any desired 
> size), and testing disconnecting the client and various other errors. 
> I've never gotten the spool file to double, so if you can reproduce 
> it, there must be something you're doing that I'm not.

Just disconnecting the client doesn't work. The client has to disconnect
itself and do it uncleanly. Dropping carrier on a modem won't cause the
problem, nor will hitting abort. Even then, it only happens for about 1
in 4 disconnects, so can be hard to reproduce on demand - although when
it _does_ happen, it will constently happen on the same client.

AB


Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 02:19:46 -0800
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: mailboxes getting duplicated

At 9:56 PM +1300 3/11/00, Alan Brown wrote:

>I don't use 3.0 (yet), however 2.54 still has it happen, only far less
>frequently than previous versions.

I'm most interested in it if it happens on 3.0.  3.0 is almost final, 
if there is a bug I'd like to fix it.  I don

Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 23:26:33 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: mailboxes getting duplicated

On Sat, 11 Mar 2000, Qpopper Support wrote:

> I'm most interested in it if it happens on 3.0.  3.0 is almost final, 
> if there is a bug I'd like to fix it.  I don't expect any updates to 
> 2.x.

Until 3.0 reches final, documentation of 2.0 faults is necessary,
particularly if it's a curly fault which later turns out to be still
present in 3.x

AB


Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 02:22:46 -0800
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: mailboxes getting duplicated

At 9:56 PM +1300 3/11/00, Alan Brown wrote:

>I don't use 3.0 (yet), however 2.54 still has it happen, only far less
>frequently than previous versions.

I'm most interested in it if it happens on 3.0.  3.0 is almost final, 
if there is a bug I'd like to fix it.  I don't expect any updates to 
2.x.

Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:13:13 +0000
From: Peter Rose <acsupply at acsupply.demon.co dot uk>
Subject: mail directory for qpopper and how to alter?

>I have just installed qpopper 2.53 on a box running RedHat Linux 5.2
>using the rpm.
>
>When I tested it by telnetting in, everything seems OK in terms of
>logging on and giving the password, but qpopper tells me I have no
>messages.
>In fact, I have sent myself several test messages and I can see that
>they are there in the appropriate user mailbox.
>Ergo, I presume I have not got qpopper looking at the right directory.
>
>how can I check what the path is set to, and is there an argument on the
>command line to alter it?
>
>I can't find this in any of the documentation, only how to change the
>directory for the bulletins.
>
>thanks!
>
>Peter Rose
"I don't like your fashion business mister" 
  - Leonard Cohen / First We Take Manhattan

Subject: Re: mailboxes getting duplicated
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:59:13 +0100 (MET)
From: Eric Luyten <eluyten at vub.ac dot be>

> At 9:56 PM +1300 3/11/00, Alan Brown wrote:
> 
> >I don't use 3.0 (yet), however 2.54 still has it happen, only far less
> >frequently than previous versions.
> 
> I'm most interested in it if it happens on 3.0.  3.0 is almost final, 
> if there is a bug I'd like to fix it.

The bug is hitting us as well.

Solaris 7, +22,000 users, mail partition is a 20 Gigabyte RAID 1+0 volume,
Qpopper version 3.0b34, POPTEMP moved to different partition for performance
reasons, server mode, non-hashed mailspool, a variety of clients, most on
10/100 Mbps LAN technologies.
2 of the 6 processors on our Sun Enterprise 4000 are permanently busy with
popper processes.

As you suggested last November (when we still ran Qpopper 2.53) I'd turn on 
debugging and send you the output but with 5 POP accesses per second during 
office hours, that process may prove to produce a *LOT* of data. 
I'm also concerned with degraded performance while running in "debug mode".

There is most definitely a server side bug causing mailbox duplication and
it is NOT linked to a particular MUA or dialup connections.
The doubling occurs independently of mail deliveries (I checked the MTA logs)
so certain potential locking problems can be discarded.
The doubling *appears* mostly to happen at times of heavy server load.



Regards,
Eric Luyten, Computing Centre VUB/ULB.

Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:46:48 +0100
From: Manuel Nogales Casares <mnogales at csi.uned dot es>
Subject: Technical Support

Hello:

We have a computer (Linux-RedHat 5.2) with   QPOP (version 2.53) and
6000 emails. The Friday and Tuesday we had  an error because a lot of
people (about 500) was reading his email. The system tell me "the system
has so many opened files" and system hanged. I'm afraid that this will
occur again.

--
,.........................................,.........................,
: Manuel Nogales Casares             Email:    mnogales at csi.uned dot es :
: Técnico Comunicaciones CSI-UNED         : Tel:  (+34) 91-398-6634 :
: Universidad N. de Educacion a Distancia : Fax:  (+34) 91-398-7667 :
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'.........................................:.........................'




Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:20:13 -0300
From: "Renato R. Santana" <renato at contacto.com dot br>
Subject: Re: mail directory for qpopper and how to alter?

At 08:13 AM 3/13/00 +0000, you wrote:
>>I have just installed qpopper 2.53 on a box running RedHat Linux 5.2
>>using the rpm.
>>
>>When I tested it by telnetting in, everything seems OK in terms of
>>logging on and giving the password, but qpopper tells me I have no
>>messages.
>>In fact, I have sent myself several test messages and I can see that
>>they are there in the appropriate user mailbox.
>>Ergo, I presume I have not got qpopper looking at the right directory.
>>
>>how can I check what the path is set to, and is there an argument on the
>>command line to alter it?
>>
>>I can't find this in any of the documentation, only how to change the
>>directory for the bulletins.


Check the permissions, owner user and owner
group for mail directory and files.

Hope it helps,



================================
= Renato R. Santana
= SysAdmin
= Contato Internet Provider
= http://www.contacto.com.br
=================================

Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:29:44 +0100
From: Reinhard Zierke <zierke at informatik.uni-hamburg dot de>
Subject: buffer overflows?

Hi,

I was victim of a portscan some days ago while I was running qpopper 3.0b35
(now qpopper 3.0b36).  The port scan lists:

--------------------------<[ * report for host rzdspc1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de
*
<[ tcp port: 23 (telnet) ]>     <[ tcp port: 110 (pop3) ]>
<[ tcp port: 111 (sunrpc) ]>    <[ tcp port: 53 (domain) ]>
<[ tcp port: 25 (smtp) ]>       <[ tcp port: 21 (ftp) ]>
<[ tcp port: 22 (ssh) ]>
--<[ *OS*: rzdspc1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de: os detected: solaris 2.x
--<[ *VULN*: rzdspc1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de: QPOP remote r00t buffer overflow
---------------------------<[ * scan of rzdspc1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de completed *

Is there really still a buffer overflow problem in qpopper 3.0b35 or is
this a red herring?

Reinhard

-- 
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zierke at informatik.uni-hamburg dot de      Vogt-Koelln-Strasse 30, D-22527 Hamburg
postmaster at informatik.uni-hamburg dot de  Tel.: (040) 42883-2295/2276 Fax: -2241

Subject: Re: Technical Support
From: Didier Chalm <Didier.Chalm at shom dot fr>
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:47:13 +0100

Dans son message du 13/3/2000, Manuel Nogales Casares écrivait:

> Hello:
> 
> We have a computer (Linux-RedHat 5.2) with   QPOP (version 2.53) and
> 6000 emails. The Friday and Tuesday we had  an error because a lot of
> people (about 500) was reading his email. The system tell me "the system
> has so many opened files" and system hanged. I'm afraid that this will
> occur again.

Hello,

you can try to increase the maximum number of opened files in your kernel
by issueing the command :  echo 4096 > /proc/sys/kernel/file-max
(Your kernel must be compiled with the support of /proc filesystem of course)

-- 
  Didier.Chalm at shom dot fr       EPSHOM     |   " No sport, cigars ! "
  Service Informatique   BREST - FRANCE |             Sir W. Churchill



Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 02:06:52 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: Technical Support

On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Didier Chalm wrote:

> you can try to increase the maximum number of opened files in your kernel
> by issueing the command :  echo 4096 > /proc/sys/kernel/file-max
> (Your kernel must be compiled with the support of /proc filesystem of course)

It is also a good idea to inspect tasks.h and limits.h in
/usr/src/linux/include/linux too. If you want to adjust those values,
you will need to recompiled the kernel.

By default Linux only allows 512 processes, this can be increased to
4096...

AB


Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:47:09 -0300
From: Renato Murilo Langona <renato at linux.redebrasil.org dot br>
Subject: Re: buffer overflows?

Hi,

Reinhard Zierke wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I was victim of a portscan some days ago while I was running qpopper 3.0b35
> (now qpopper 3.0b36).  The port scan lists:
> 
> --------------------------<[ * report for host rzdspc1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de
> *
> --<[ *OS*: rzdspc1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de: os detected: solaris 2.x
> --<[ *VULN*: rzdspc1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de: QPOP remote r00t buffer overflow
> ---------------------------<[ * scan of rzdspc1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de completed *
> 
> Is there really still a buffer overflow problem in qpopper 3.0b35 or is
> this a red herring?


You're running an outdated vulnerability check... Try Nessus, Saint,
Sara... Sscan will say you're probably "vulnerable" despite the version
of qpopper you're running of the 3.0 series...
Anyway, I would recommend you to run the stable 2.53 if this is a
production server, the 3.0 is still in beta stage...
 
P.s.: I'm not saying qpopper 3.0b26 doesn't have any overflows, just
saying THIS vulnerability scanner report is, in this case, "fake"

Best regards,
-- 
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Network/System Administrator/Consultant          
Site: http://security.bsd.com.br/renato
Contact mail: renato at unix.barroco.com dot br
Contact Phone: (+5511) 9115 0606 (BR/SP)
http://pgp5.ai.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x4DBD311A

From: "sandeep periwal" <periwal at vsnl dot com>
Subject: how to exclude myself from the list.
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 19:48:03 +0530

Hi how should I disclude me from the list.
sandeep


From: Mike Walter <mike at pcdnet dot net>
Subject: Bulletin Problems
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:55:11 -0500

I have a problem with the bulletin feature.  When I create a new user, they
get all the old bulletins.  Is there a way to prevent this?  
	Thank you,


Mike Walter,
PCD Network Solutions, Inc,
"Success is the Only Solution"
Voice (606) 331-9004 ext 207
www.pcdnet.net
www.3z.net



Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:57:11 -0800
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: how to exclude myself from the list.

At 7:48 PM +0530 3/13/00, sandeep periwal wrote:

>Hi how should I disclude me from the list.
>sandeep

If you want to unsubscribe from this list, every message has a header 
that you can just click on to do that:

>List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:qpopper-request at lists.pensive dot org?body=unsubscribe>


Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:04:52 -0800
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: buffer overflows?

At 1:29 PM +0100 3/13/00, Reinhard Zierke wrote:

>Is there really still a buffer overflow problem in qpopper 3.0b35 or is
>this a red herring?

There are no known buffer overflows in current 3.0 -- see the FAQ at 
<http://www.eudora.com/qpopper/faq.html#exploit>.  Note that 3.0 has 
additional code to prevent buffer overflows, and in addition, a 
buffer-overflow check utility is run before each release, which 
checks each parameter of each command for overflows.

Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:08:09 -0800
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: mail directory for qpopper and how to alter?

>I have just installed qpopper 2.53 on a box running RedHat Linux 5.2
>using the rpm.
>
>When I tested it by telnetting in, everything seems OK in terms of
>logging on and giving the password, but qpopper tells me I have no
>messages.
>In fact, I have sent myself several test messages and I can see that
>they are there in the appropriate user mailbox.
>Ergo, I presume I have not got qpopper looking at the right directory.
>
>how can I check what the path is set to, and is there an argument on the
>command line to alter it?
>
>I can't find this in any of the documentation, only how to change the
>directory for the bulletins.

First, you should use 3.0 on Linux, not 2.53.  2.53 on Linux is 
susceptible to locking problems.

Second, after running ./configure, check the definition of 
POP_MAILDIR in config.h, and see if this is where mail is delivered 
on your system.

Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:59:47 -0800
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Bulletin Problems

At 10:55 AM -0500 3/13/00, Mike Walter wrote:

>I have a problem with the bulletin feature.  When I create a new user, they
>get all the old bulletins.  Is there a way to prevent this? 
>	Thank you,
>
>
>Mike Walter,
>PCD Network Solutions, Inc,
>"Success is the Only Solution"
>Voice (606) 331-9004 ext 207
>www.pcdnet.net
>www.3z.net

Use '--with-new-bulls=count' when you run ./configure.  Set it to the 
number of bulletins you want new users to get.  For example, 
'--with-new-bulls=count=1' to give new users only one old bulletin.

Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:42:54 -0500
From: Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
Subject: Re: bulletins override compiled value

Still catching up on old e-mail ...

On Sat, Feb 19, 2000 at 08:40:21AM -0500, Mike McKeage wrote:
...
> P.S. If anyone has handy a simple bash script to read a passwd 
> file, and create home directories, I would be eternally grateful.
> The passwd file (using shadow as well) does specify home dir's, 
> just that most of them do not really exist.

If you are enamored of shell scripts, here is a simple one off the top
of my
head:

#!/bin/ksh
IFS=":"
while :; do
	# read a line of /etc/passwd [see end of loop]
	read name password uid gid gecos directory shell
	# EOF?
	if [ "0" != "$?" ]; then
		break
	fi
	# Create any non-existent directory.
	if [ ! -d "$directory" ]; then
		echo "Creating \"$directory\"."
		mkdir "$directory"
		if [ -d "$directory" ]; then
			chown "$uid" "$directory"
			chgrp "$gid" "$directory"
			# The two above can be combined, but with
			# different syntaxes on different Unix systems.
			# ;-(
		  else
			echo "Directory \"$directory\" not created!" >&2
		fi
	fi
done < /etc/passwd

-- 
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COSPO/OSIS Computer Support					EMT-B
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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:20:53 -0500
From: Forrest Aldrich <forrie at forrie dot com>
Subject: qpopper3.0b36 compile error on FreeBSD

Relevant to FreeBSD-2.2.8, I used the following configure line:

./configure --enable-shy --enable-log-login --enable-servermode 

Can we get this fixed?

Thanks,

_F





gcc -c -I.. -I.. -I. -I../mmangle -I../common  -g -O2 -freg-struct-return   -DFREEBSD -DUNIX pop_bull.c -o pop_bull.o
pop_bull.c: In function `pop_bull':
pop_bull.c:284: `DIR' undeclared (first use this function)
pop_bull.c:284: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
pop_bull.c:284: for each function it appears in.)
pop_bull.c:284: `dirp' undeclared (first use this function)
pop_bull.c:285: parse error before `*'
pop_bull.c:330: `dp' undeclared (first use this function)
pop_bull.c:333: `bullNumber' undeclared (first use this function)
pop_bull.c:342: `maxBullNumber' undeclared (first use this function)
pop_bull.c:344: `list' undeclared (first use this function)
pop_bull.c:460: `lastBullSent' undeclared (first use this function)
pop_bull.c:463: `buffer' undeclared (first use this function)
pop_bull.c:473: `my_umask' undeclared (first use this function)
pop_bull.c:536: `res' undeclared (first use this function)
pop_bull.c:537: `save_count' undeclared (first use this function)
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.





From: "Froylan Armando Loaiza Villanueva" <floaiza at pemex dot com>
Subject: RE: mailboxes getting duplicated
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:34:37 -0600

i have the same problem...
i'm using solaris 7 and qpopper 2.53, i have constructed a web interfase
using PERL, the problem i have is when somebody uses webmail to retreive
his list of messages, and has enought mails to make the process of
creating the .pop file and releasing the session. i think it hapens
when the user tryes to access again and the .pop file hasn't ended
the cleaning of the mail messages marked for deletion.

(only hapens if the user clicks to establish the session again in a
very short time. of course if the user has a big mail file.)

any suggestions???





> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: grimster at konnekted dot com [mailto:grimster at konnekted dot com]En nombre de
> Gary Harris
> Enviado el: Viernes 10 de Marzo de 2000 4:21 PM
> Para: Rea Simpson
> Cc: Subscribers of Qpopper
> Asunto: Re: mailboxes getting duplicated
>
>
> I've had a couple of customers complain that sometimes they just get
> their whole mailbox again for no reason.  Sound like your problem.
>
> I'm running 2.53 on Solaris 7 on Sparc, and this seems like a fairly
> rare yet aggravating enough to gain my attention problem.
>
> <SNIP>
> >
> > You can see that the user had 212 messages stored on the server, then
> > we had some EOF errors and after they finally sucessfully download the 3
> > new messages they now have 424 messages left.  This happened twice
> > more for this user and they ended up with 1.5 GB left on the server
> > which promptly brought the problem to our attention.  In the case of
> > this user, they are leaving messages > than a certain size on
> the server.
> >
> > I wrote a script to see how many other mailboxes had the same
> > problem and I found ~68 users affected out of our ~8000 accounts.
> >
> > I've read the Changes file for the beta versions and don't see
> > any mention of this problem.  I can't find info on what's new
> > in 2.53.
> >
> > Any info on this problem would be appreciated.
> >
> > thanks,
> > Rea Simpson
> > Lawrence Livermore National Lab.
>
> --
> Gary at konnekted dot com
> ------------------------------
> http://www.konnekted.com/
> ------------------------------
>


Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 00:10:42 -0800 (PST)
From: Derrick MacPherson <derrick at web.mercuryfilmworks dot com>
Subject: Auto_delete & and exceptions file?

Is there a way to use the auto_delete and have a file with the users that
are allowed to store mail on server? If not any have any suggestions?


Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:30:01 +0100
From: Manuel Nogales Casares <mnogales at csi.uned dot es>
Subject: forward

Hi:
        Is there a way to forward all mail, and keep a copy in this
count??

When I put the .forward file, all mail is redirected to another count.

--
,.........................................,.........................,
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: Universidad N. de Educacion a Distancia : Fax:  (+34) 91-398-7667 :
: Senda del Rey, s/n.                     :                         :
: E-28040 Madrid           SPAIN          :  Linux User 140.716     :
'.........................................:.........................'




Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 19:44:43 +1100 (EST)
From: Kendall Lister <kendall at charon.net dot au>
Subject: Re: forward

On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Manuel Nogales Casares wrote:

> Is there a way to forward all mail, and keep a copy in this count??
> 
> When I put the .forward file, all mail is redirected to another count.

Not that this seems particularly relevant to Qpopper, but look into
procmail.

--
 Kendall Lister, Systems Operator for Charon I.S. - kendall at charon.net dot au
  Charon Information Services - Friendly, Cheap Melbourne ISP: 9589 7781


Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 05:00:14 -0500 (EST)
From: Doc Gorby <tgorby at emc dot com>
Subject: RE: mailboxes getting duplicated

Finnaly -- after all this time, I find others with the same
problem.  I have been fighting this duplicate message
problem for over a year (closer to 2 years).

I have gone from Solaris 5.5 through Solaris 7.
Qpopper 2.53 to 3.34.

The problem occurs with any pop client (outlook,
netscape, and others). It seems to happen with any
slowness/connectivity problems with the network.

I just upgraded to popper 3.16 so I can't tell if
the problem still exists.  My last configuration
includes the Server option with qpopper.

regards

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On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Froylan Armando Loaiza Villanueva wrote:

>==>Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:34:37 -0600
>==>From: Froylan Armando Loaiza Villanueva <floaiza at pemex dot com>
>==>To: Gary Harris <gary at konnekted dot com>, Rea Simpson <simpson6 at llnl dot gov>
>==>Cc: Subscribers of Qpopper <qpopper at lists.pensive dot org>
>==>Subject: RE: mailboxes getting duplicated
>==>
>==>i have the same problem...
>==>i'm using solaris 7 and qpopper 2.53, i have constructed a web interfase
>==>using PERL, the problem i have is when somebody uses webmail to retreive
>==>his list of messages, and has enought mails to make the process of
>==>creating the .pop file and releasing the session. i think it hapens
>==>when the user tryes to access again and the .pop file hasn't ended
>==>the cleaning of the mail messages marked for deletion.
>==>
>==>(only hapens if the user clicks to establish the session again in a
>==>very short time. of course if the user has a big mail file.)
>==>
>==>any suggestions???
>==>
>==>
>==>
>==>
>==>
>==>> -----Mensaje original-----
>==>> De: grimster at konnekted dot com [mailto:grimster at konnekted dot com]En nombre de
>==>> Gary Harris
>==>> Enviado el: Viernes 10 de Marzo de 2000 4:21 PM
>==>> Para: Rea Simpson
>==>> Cc: Subscribers of Qpopper
>==>> Asunto: Re: mailboxes getting duplicated
>==>>
>==>>
>==>> I've had a couple of customers complain that sometimes they just get
>==>> their whole mailbox again for no reason.  Sound like your problem.
>==>>
>==>> I'm running 2.53 on Solaris 7 on Sparc, and this seems like a fairly
>==>> rare yet aggravating enough to gain my attention problem.
>==>>
>==>> <SNIP>
>==>> >
>==>> > You can see that the user had 212 messages stored on the server, then
>==>> > we had some EOF errors and after they finally sucessfully download the 3
>==>> > new messages they now have 424 messages left.  This happened twice
>==>> > more for this user and they ended up with 1.5 GB left on the server
>==>> > which promptly brought the problem to our attention.  In the case of
>==>> > this user, they are leaving messages > than a certain size on
>==>> the server.
>==>> >
>==>> > I wrote a script to see how many other mailboxes had the same
>==>> > problem and I found ~68 users affected out of our ~8000 accounts.
>==>> >
>==>> > I've read the Changes file for the beta versions and don't see
>==>> > any mention of this problem.  I can't find info on what's new
>==>> > in 2.53.
>==>> >
>==>> > Any info on this problem would be appreciated.
>==>> >
>==>> > thanks,
>==>> > Rea Simpson
>==>> > Lawrence Livermore National Lab.
>==>>
>==>> --
>==>> Gary at konnekted dot com
>==>> ------------------------------
>==>> http://www.konnekted.com/
>==>> ------------------------------
>==>>
>==>


Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 14:40:13 +0100
From: "Stephan Hendl" <Stephan.Hendl at lds.brandenburg dot de>
Subject: qpopper on HPUX 11

Hi folks,

I tried to install a qpopper on an HPUX 11 machine with trusted system =
enabled - and the popper gives an error that he cannot recognize the right =
password. It seems to me that the program doesn't find the passwords =
because they are located in another place then /etc/passwd /etc/shadow.

Has anybody a solution?

Thanks
Stephan


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Dr. Stephan Hendl
fon: +49-(0)331-39 471
fax: +49-(0)331-27548 1187
EMail: stephan.hendl at lds.brandenburg dot de



Subject: Re: mailboxes getting duplicated
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 14:50:27 +0100 (MET)
From: Eric Luyten <eluyten at vub.ac dot be>

> Finnaly -- after all this time, I find others with the same
> problem.  I have been fighting this duplicate message
> problem for over a year (closer to 2 years).

The issue has come up on this list on a number of occasions.
 
> I have gone from Solaris 5.5 through Solaris 7.
> Qpopper 2.53 to 3.34.

It *appears* to be a Solaris-only problem.
Or perhaps only we, Solaris admins, run large POP3 servers ?   :-)


Eric.

Subject: One- or two-level mailspool hashing ?
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 14:57:35 +0100 (MET)
From: Eric Luyten <eluyten at vub.ac dot be>

I'm currently in the process of modifying our POP3 and IMAP4 server
software to read/write a hashed mailspool, together with small modifi-
cations to the local delivery agent (mail.local, but will probably
move to procmail) and environment variable (MAIL) changes to accommodate
host-based mail user agents.

Are there POP3 server administrators on this list who have moved to a
one-level hashed mailspool (/var/mail/a/amailbox) and found out they
really needed a two-level hash (/var/mail/a/m/amailbox) ?

We have little over 22,000 accounts and, when dividing up by first
character (as opposed to the one-level hashing function currently
provided by Qpopper 3.0b3x), the letters 'a', 's' and 'm' each end up 
with little under 2,000 mailboxes under them. Is that still too much 
for comfort ?


All feedback welcome.
Eric Luyten, Computing Centre VUB/ULB.

Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 14:16:04 +0000
From: Gareth Marlow <Gareth_Marlow at scientia dot com>
Subject: Re: qpopper on HPUX 11

On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 02:40:13PM +0100, Stephan Hendl wrote:

> I tried to install a qpopper on an HPUX 11 machine with trusted system
> enabled - and the popper gives an error that he cannot recognize the
> right
> password. It seems to me that the program doesn't find the passwords
> because they are located in another place then /etc/passwd /etc/shadow.

Did you compile qpopper with the -DAUTH option? I compiled qpopper on a
10.20 system with tcb passwords and IIRC it worked when you did this.

Gareth

Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 15:35:06 +0100
From: "Stephan Hendl" <Stephan.Hendl at lds.brandenburg dot de>
Subject: Antw: Re: qpopper on HPUX 11

I tried it on a 10.20 machine and had the same problems. I tried the =
-DAUTH on the 11.0 machine too bat with no other results.

Stephan


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Dr. Stephan Hendl
fon: +49-(0)331-39 471
fax: +49-(0)331-27548 1187
EMail: stephan.hendl at lds.brandenburg dot de



From: "Alexander Kiselev" <akiselev at mow-co.ru.dhl dot com>
Subject: Re: qpopper on HPUX 11
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:31:35 +0300

Hi,

On my HP-UX 10.20 with qpopper 2.53 all works fine.
Have you compiled with "--enable-specialauth" feature?

--
Bests,
Alex


----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephan Hendl" <Stephan.Hendl at lds.brandenburg dot de>
To: "Subscribers of Qpopper" <qpopper at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 4:40 PM
Subject: qpopper on HPUX 11


> Hi folks,
>
> I tried to install a qpopper on an HPUX 11 machine with trusted system
enabled - and the popper gives an error that he cannot recognize the right
password. It seems to me that the program doesn't find the passwords because
they are located in another place then /etc/passwd /etc/shadow.
>
> Has anybody a solution?
>
> Thanks
> Stephan
>
>
> --
> LDS Brandenburg
> Dr. Stephan Hendl
> fon: +49-(0)331-39 471
> fax: +49-(0)331-27548 1187
> EMail: stephan.hendl at lds.brandenburg dot de
>
>