The qpopper list archive ending on 12 Apr 2000
Topics covered in this issue include:
1. Re: qpopper 2.5.3 and sendmail8.9.3 on RH6.0
Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Tue, 4 Apr 2000 16:00:50 -0700
2. Re: qpopper 2.5.3 and sendmail8.9.3 on RH6.0
"Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Tue, 04 Apr 2000 17:14:32 -0700
3. orphan and old .userid.pop files
Edward Concilio <econcilio at goamerica dot net>
Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:09:17 -0400
4. Re: orphan and old .userid.pop files
Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Wed, 5 Apr 2000 12:16:55 -0700
5. Re: qpopper 2.5.3 and sendmail8.9.3 on RH6.0
hypnose at t-online dot de (guenter wessling)
Wed, 05 Apr 2000 23:23:30 +0200
6. Re: qpopper 2.5.3 and sendmail8.9.3 on RH6.0
Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Thu, 6 Apr 2000 12:33:15 +1200 (NZST)
7. Re: qpopper 2.5.3 and sendmail8.9.3 on RH6.0
"Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Wed, 05 Apr 2000 17:55:19 -0700
8. Re: qpopper 2.5.3 and sendmail8.9.3 on RH6.0
Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Thu, 6 Apr 2000 13:12:35 +1200 (NZST)
9. Re: SOLVED(1): mailboxes getting duplicated
jnemeth at victoria.tc dot ca (John Nemeth)
Thu, 6 Apr 2000 01:07:14 -0700
10. Re: Standalone pop3
"Andrew C. Holmes" <holmesa at lastminute dot com>
Thu, 06 Apr 2000 10:01:25 +0100
11. Strange
"Mitch Vincent" <mitch at venux dot net>
Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:43:10 -0400
12. Re: Strange
Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Thu, 6 Apr 2000 14:49:43 -0700
13. RE: Standalone pop3
"Michael D. Sofka" <sofkam at rpi dot edu>
Fri, 07 Apr 2000 09:42:22 -0400
14. RE: Standalone pop3
Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Fri, 7 Apr 2000 10:56:09 -0700
15. RE: Standalone pop3
"Michael D. Sofka" <sofkam at rpi dot edu>
Fri, 07 Apr 2000 15:15:50 -0400
16. Qpopper 3.0fc2 available
Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Fri, 7 Apr 2000 17:34:39 -0700
17. Qpopper Not Logging with path
Daniel Norton <danorton at chsw dot com>
Sat, 08 Apr 2000 00:30:36 -0400
18. Re: Qpopper 3.0fc2 available
Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Sat, 8 Apr 2000 16:45:10 +1200 (NZST)
19. Re: Qpopper Not Logging with path
Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Sat, 8 Apr 2000 16:55:08 +1200 (NZST)
20. Re: Qpopper Not Logging with path
Martin Bene <mb at sime dot com>
Sat, 08 Apr 2000 10:45:01 +0200
21. Re: Qpopper Not Logging with path
Steven Champeon <schampeo at hesketh dot com>
Sat, 8 Apr 2000 05:09:33 -0400 (EDT)
22. Fw: Hi there, It is a Hoax : Ericsson-another one of those free gifts!
"Deepak A." <adeepak at ramshyam dot com>
Sat, 8 Apr 2000 14:41:45 +0530
23. Re: Qpopper Not Logging with path
Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Sat, 8 Apr 2000 15:11:10 -0700
24. Re: Qpopper Not Logging with path
Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Sat, 8 Apr 2000 15:09:36 -0700
25. case sensitive
Frank Beale <fbbeale at richmond.infi dot net>
Sun, 09 Apr 2000 23:34:21 -0400
26. Re: case sensitive
Alex Charalabidis <alex at wnm dot net>
Mon, 10 Apr 2000 00:06:00 -0500 (CDT)
27. About Quota
"Gary" <gary at ibms.sinica.edu dot tw>
Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:24:54 +0800
28. Change Password from client both for PASSWORD and APOP
Ezio Paglia <ezio at comune.grosseto dot it>
Mon, 10 Apr 2000 13:00:03 +0200
29. Re: About Quota
Jonathan Marianu <marianuj at OIT dot EDU>
Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:35:43 -0700
30. RE: About Quota
"Karim" <knaguib at clickhere dot com>
Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:47:05 -0500
31. em utility?
Raphael Maseko <ralph at zamnet dot zm>
Mon, 10 Apr 2000 19:14:52 +0200
32. Re: About Quota
Frank Pineau <frank at pineaus dot com>
Mon, 10 Apr 2000 13:14:30 -0400
33. Re: em utility?
Brad Blix <bblix at CPInternet dot com>
Mon, 10 Apr 2000 12:50:17 -0500
34. POP EOF or I/O error
Joel Laing <joel at scripps dot edu>
Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:50:59 -0700
35. RE: orphan and old .userid.pop files
Edward Concilio <econcilio at goamerica dot net>
Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:31:34 -0400
36. Re: em utility?
Raphael Maseko <ralph at zamnet dot zm>
Tue, 11 Apr 2000 20:50:34 +0200
37. Re: em utility?
Graham Rose <graham at avint dot net>
Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:01:02 -0230
38. Re: em utility?
"Jerry O'Brien" <jobrien at cuttingedge dot net>
Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:42:56 -0700
39. Re: em utility?
Alex Charalabidis <alex at wnm dot net>
Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:26:50 -0500 (CDT)
40. Re: sub qpopper
Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:22:19 -0400
41. Re: SOLVED(1): mailboxes getting duplicated
Chantal Hunter <chantal at ilap dot com>
Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:55:57 -0400
42. Setting up dedicated qpoppers
Kevin Dabson <kevin at dnc-electronics dot com>
Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:07:49 +0000 (GMT)
43. Re: Setting up dedicated qpoppers
"Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:49:32 -0700
44. Re: SOLVED(1): mailboxes getting duplicated
Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:54:40 -0700
45. Re: SOLVED(1): mailboxes getting duplicated
Wallace Nicoll <wallace at cityedin.demon.co dot uk>
Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:56:05 +0100
46. Re: SOLVED(1): mailboxes getting duplicated
"Lisa Casey" <lisa at jellico dot com>
Wed, 12 Apr 2000 09:30:46 -0400
47. RE: SOLVED(1): mailboxes getting duplicated
"Michele Chubirka" <chubirka at gwu dot edu>
Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:53:46 -0400
48. Removing old email (was: Re: em utility?).
"Michael D. Sofka" <sofkam at rpi dot edu>
Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:41:55 -0400
49. RE: Removing old email (was: Re: em utility?).
Edward Concilio <econcilio at goamerica dot net>
Wed, 12 Apr 2000 14:54:16 -0400
50. qpopper stalling
Greg Hiscott <gjh at keyconnect dot com>
Wed, 12 Apr 2000 12:00:42 -0700
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 16:00:50 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: qpopper 2.5.3 and sendmail8.9.3 on RH6.0
At 10:02 AM -0500 4/4/00, Hongwei Li wrote:
>I installed qpopper2.5.3 on our RedHat 6.0 e-mail server which runs sendmail
>8.9.3.
>I set /etc/mail/relay-domains as
>xxx.yyy.zzz
>which is our local sub net and it works well. Now, we have one problem:
>some users want to use their home computers to handle e-mails and they use
>different ISP and so have different IP addresses.
I'd suggest upgrading to Qpopper 3.0fc1 and sendmail 8.10. Qpopper
3.0 is more stable on Linux than 2.53. Sendmail 8.10 includes SMTP
AUTH for relay restrictions, so you don't need to worry about IP
addresses anymore. Your users can relay mail from anywhere, as long
as they use a client that supports the SMTP AUTH mechanisms you do.
--
Randall Gellens
Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only
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Resistance is Useless! (If less than one ohm.)
From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 17:14:32 -0700
Subject: Re: qpopper 2.5.3 and sendmail8.9.3 on RH6.0
On Tue, 4 Apr 2000 13:01:09 -0400 (EDT), Steven Champeon wrote:
>> Another question: after changing the file relay-domains, do I need to
>> re-start sendmail? How to restart it without rebooting the RH 6.0?
>
>You shouldn't need to restart sendmail, but you will need to recreate
>the dbm file sendmail actually uses. See the sendmail documentation
>and look for 'makemap' for more info. And, no, you don't need to reboot
>the box - you're dealing with UNIX now, not Windows NT.
As we're talking about a Red Hat box, you should recreate mail
databases using make. The Makefile in /etc/mail takes care of updating
the databases with the correct commands. Note that
"/etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail restart" also runs this Makefile before
starting sendmail.
I'd recommend also looking at news:comp.mail.sendmail as, with sendmail
8.10.0 freshly-released, there's a lot of discussion there now about
bringing it up with the new authentication mechanism.
Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
From: Edward Concilio <econcilio at goamerica dot net>
Subject: orphan and old .userid.pop files
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:09:17 -0400
Greetings,
Recently, we have experienced orphan and old .userid.pop files
in /var/mail w/ corresponding popper processes.
Our server is a UltraSPARC-IIi, 300 Mhz, 5.6, w/ 2 Gigs ram, 18 gig hd,
and qpopper 3.0fc1 compiled w/
Reading specs from /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.95.2/specs
gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 (release)
./configure --enable-log-login --enable-bulldb=/var/spool/bulls
--enable-debugging --enable-group-bulls
Currently, I kill the popper process w/ kill -TERM pid then clean the
corresponding .userid.pop and
userid maildrop file.
Two questions:
1) Any idea on how to resolve this problem and
2) is there a signal that popper will recognize, USR1, USR2, TERM, etc, that
will end
the process and do it's own cleanup?
BTW: The bulletins feature works really nice now. Only wish the it would
parse beyond the
primary group id.
Edward Concilio
GoAmerica Communications Corp.
Senior Systems Admin.
401 Hackensack Ave.
Hackensack, NJ 07601
econcilio at goamerica dot net
econcilio at gomail dot net
http://www.goamerica.net
Tel: (201) 996-1717 x2243
Fax: (201) 996-1772
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 12:16:55 -0700
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: orphan and old .userid.pop files
At 11:09 AM -0400 4/5/00, Edward Concilio wrote:
>Greetings,
>
>Recently, we have experienced orphan and old .userid.pop files
>in /var/mail w/ corresponding popper processes.
If the popper process still exists, it sounds like these are not
orphaned files, but are in use. How long has the popper process been
active? What is its current state when you look at it? What do
truss(1) and pstack(1) show?
>
>Our server is a UltraSPARC-IIi, 300 Mhz, 5.6, w/ 2 Gigs ram, 18 gig hd,
>and qpopper 3.0fc1 compiled w/
>Reading specs from /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.95.2/specs
>gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 (release)
>
>./configure --enable-log-login --enable-bulldb=/var/spool/bulls
>--enable-debugging --enable-group-bulls
>
>Currently, I kill the popper process w/ kill -TERM pid then clean the
>corresponding .userid.pop and
>userid maildrop file.
>
>Two questions:
>1) Any idea on how to resolve this problem and
>
>2) is there a signal that popper will recognize, USR1, USR2, TERM, etc, that
>will end
>the process and do it's own cleanup?
>
>BTW: The bulletins feature works really nice now. Only wish the it would
>parse beyond the
>primary group id.
What is it you want the feature to do?
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 23:23:30 +0200
From: hypnose at t-online dot de (guenter wessling)
Subject: Re: qpopper 2.5.3 and sendmail8.9.3 on RH6.0
Hi, Mr. Li,
At 10:02 04.04.00 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I installed qpopper2.5.3 on our RedHat 6.0 e-mail server which runs=
sendmail
>8.9.3.
>I set /etc/mail/relay-domains as
>xxx.yyy.zzz
>which is our local sub net and it works well. Now, we have one problem:
>some users want to use their home computers to handle e-mails and they use
>different ISP and so have different IP addresses. I try to include a few
>lines in the file relay-domains as (some users tell me their possible IP
>addresses)
>
>aa1.bb1.cc1.dd1
>aa2.bb2.cc2.dd2
>aa3.bb3.cc3.dd3
>
>but, it does not work. They still have relay-denied problem. The above IP
>addresses are correct because once they get in, they can tell what the IP
>address they are using. So, this is not an issue. It seems that our this
>sendmail8.9.3 + qpopper2.5.3 can handle only our sub net relay problem. Is
>it normal? Can somebody tell me how to solve this problem?
>
OK. This is a sendmail issue, has nothing to do with qpopper.
"relay-domains" is a good start: make sure to enter IP and then the word
RELAY :
11.12.13.144 RELAY
and make sure that "sendmail.cf" knows the file "relay-domains".
(In other words: I´m not sure whether red hat has the same
.cf-file-definitions as I do have - I do not use red hat.)
On the other hand, you probably have to edit "sendmail.cw" also for adding
the relay domains (depending on the distributions differences again..).
If nothing works out, contact sendmail.org - those people are just terrific
in helping. Look at their home page: there is a link to their mailing list.
>Another question: after changing the file relay-domains, do I need to
>re-start sendmail? How to restart it without rebooting the RH 6.0?
Yes, you DO have to restart sendmail.
Do not reboot. Type:
ps aux | grep sendma*
(you know this key ->> "|", do you ?)
and you will see the process with it´s id, for instance "1234".
Then type:
kill -HUP (process ID)
in our case
kill -HUP 1234
and you will have a nice and easy restart.
In typing
ps aux | grep sendma*
again you will find the new process ID which tells you that ev´thing is al=
l
righty.
guenter
guenter wessling (hypnose at t-online dot de)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 12:33:15 +1200 (NZST)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: qpopper 2.5.3 and sendmail8.9.3 on RH6.0
On Wed, 5 Apr 2000, guenter wessling wrote:
> Yes, you DO have to restart sendmail.
> Do not reboot. Type:
Here's my HupMail script:
#!/bin/sh
kill -1 `head -1 /var/run/sendmail.pid`
echo
echo sendmail restarted.
exit 0
Edit to reflect wherever your sendmail.pid lives.
AB
From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 17:55:19 -0700
Subject: Re: qpopper 2.5.3 and sendmail8.9.3 on RH6.0
On Thu, 6 Apr 2000 12:33:15 +1200 (NZST), Alan Brown wrote:
>Here's my HupMail script:
Red Hat provides one in /etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail. All scripts in that
directory take one parameter, one of start/stop/restart/reload/status.
They're used during boot and shutdown but can also be used at any time
to restart a service. They do all the work of finding the service's PID
file and sending the appropriate signal or killing and restarting
daemons. Collectively they're known as the "initscripts package".
Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 13:12:35 +1200 (NZST)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: qpopper 2.5.3 and sendmail8.9.3 on RH6.0
On Wed, 5 Apr 2000, Kenneth Porter wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Apr 2000 12:33:15 +1200 (NZST), Alan Brown wrote:
>
> >Here's my HupMail script:
>
> Red Hat provides one in /etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail.
Qpopper/sendmail run on far more than just Linux boxes, let alone
redhat. :-)
AB
From: jnemeth at victoria.tc dot ca (John Nemeth)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 01:07:14 -0700
Subject: Re: SOLVED(1): mailboxes getting duplicated
On Aug 18, 12:37pm, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Pål Baltzersen?= wrote:
}
} Thanks to Lars Erik HÂland (leh at nimrod dot no) for this fix for at
} least one cause to this annoying problem:
}
} This problem is with local mail delivery with sendmail (8.9.3).
} LEH discovered that incomming messages to multiple local recipients
} were duplicated for all others if one or more of the recipient's mailbox
} had temporary delivery problems (like quota exceeded).
}
} If you have a lower case 'm' in the local mailer flags then remove it.
} i.e. change
} F=lsDFMAw5:/|@qfSmn9,
} to
} F=lsDFMAw5:/|@qfSn9,
} in sendmail.mc/sendmail.cf
}
} With the 'm' flag (for multiple recipients) sendmail seems to retry delivery for
} all recipients if one or more failes, including those who allready have
} succeeded and thus creating duplicates until full success or timeout.
Actually, I think a better solution would be to use the mail.local
program that comes with sendmail to do final delivery, then you can add
FEATURE(local_lmtp)
to your mc file. This would make sendmail talk to the delivery program
using a scaled down version of the SMTP protocol. That way, it can still
deliver multiple messages at a time, but it gets intelligent responses
(successful, temporary error, permanent error) for each recipient.
}-- End of excerpt from =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Pål Baltzersen?=
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 10:01:25 +0100
From: "Andrew C. Holmes" <holmesa at lastminute dot com>
Subject: Re: Standalone pop3
Thank you all for your input over running qpopper in standalone.
I am not a programmer but i'll have a go with your advice. I have a
feeling I may be back with more questions though... ;-)
Cheers
Andy Holmes
Vince Vielhaber wrote:
>
> On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, Edward Concilio wrote:
>
> > Besides, if you turn off inetd, you will loss all other services,
> > and I believe telnet from all terminals, excluding the console.
>
> Not necessarily. I dumped inetd a long time ago. Ftp is thru ProFTPD,
> I start telnetd, qpopper and imapd thru tcpserver and don't need the
> rest of the junk it was starting.
From: "Mitch Vincent" <mitch at venux dot net>
Subject: Strange
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:43:10 -0400
Ok, this is a simple problem I'm sure it gets asked all the time.. Still I
can't figure out what the hell is up.
Just got/compiled the stable version of qpopper on this lame Redhat 6.0
Linux box..
Added
pop-3 stream tcp nowait root /usr/local/lib/popper popper -s
to /etc/inetd.conf
and checked that pop-3 is in the services file (on port 110).
When I restart inetd I get a message in /var/log/message that port 110 is
already in use. It is not -- the only thing that should be listening on port
110 is inetd (and starting popper for any connections). .
If I try to connect to port 110, there isn't anything listening so it can't
be in use.
Would anyone have any ideas as to something else I can check?
- Mitch
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 14:49:43 -0700
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Strange
At 11:43 AM -0400 4/6/00, Mitch Vincent wrote:
>Ok, this is a simple problem I'm sure it gets asked all the time.. Still I
>can't figure out what the hell is up.
>
>Just got/compiled the stable version of qpopper on this lame Redhat 6.0
>Linux box..
>
>Added
>pop-3 stream tcp nowait root /usr/local/lib/popper popper -s
>
>to /etc/inetd.conf
>
>and checked that pop-3 is in the services file (on port 110).
>
>When I restart inetd I get a message in /var/log/message that port 110 is
>already in use. It is not -- the only thing that should be listening on port
>110 is inetd (and starting popper for any connections). .
>
>If I try to connect to port 110, there isn't anything listening so it can't
>be in use.
>
>Would anyone have any ideas as to something else I can check?
>
>- Mitch
I'd do an 'fgrep 110 /etc/services' to see if anything else is
defined for port 110 (such as 'pop3'), then look in /etc/inetd.conf
to see if that service is configured there. If so, comment it out.
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 09:42:22 -0400
From: "Michael D. Sofka" <sofkam at rpi dot edu>
Subject: RE: Standalone pop3
At 03:51 PM 4/4/00 -0700, Randall Gellens wrote:
>You can return an error instead, with the "[LOGIN-DELAY]" response
>code. Also, use the '-e login_delay=nn' run-time option to set the
>CAPA login-delay response token, to inform updated clients what your
>policy is regarding login frequency.
Two problems. First, we are at 2.53 (although, now that 3.0 is out of
beta, I'm looking into upgrading at the end of the semester). Second,
that requires a cooperative client program, since there is no state
information kept by popper. That effectively means it will be ineffective.
(In fact, one popular program, winbiff, operates by ignoring any requests
to be reasonable about polling frequency.)
BTW, the child process in 2.53 is dying after password authentication.
I haven't tried 3.0 yet.
Mike
--
Michael D. Sofka sofkam at rpi dot edu
CIS/SSS Sr. Systems Programmer AFS/DFS, email, listproc, TeX, epistemology.
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY. http://www.rpi.edu/~sofkam/
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 10:56:09 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: RE: Standalone pop3
At 9:42 AM -0400 4/7/00, Michael D. Sofka wrote:
>At 03:51 PM 4/4/00 -0700, Randall Gellens wrote:
>
>>You can return an error instead, with the "[LOGIN-DELAY]" response
> >code. Also, use the '-e login_delay=nn' run-time option to set the
> >CAPA login-delay response token, to inform updated clients what your
>>policy is regarding login frequency.
>
>Two problems. First, we are at 2.53 (although, now that 3.0 is out of
>beta, I'm looking into upgrading at the end of the semester). Second,
>that requires a cooperative client program, since there is no state
>information kept by popper. That effectively means it will be ineffective.
>(In fact, one popular program, winbiff, operates by ignoring any requests
>to be reasonable about polling frequency.)
I'm suggesting you do both: return an error, with the "[LOGIN-DELAY]"
response code (for example, "-ERR [LOGIN-DELAY] You must wait at
least 20 minutes between mail checks.") *and* use the '-e
login_delay=nn' run-time option to set the CAPA login-delay response
token. That way, updated clients won't even try to login too often,
and other clients will get an error.
>BTW, the child process in 2.53 is dying after password authentication.
>I haven't tried 3.0 yet.
If you're saying the Qpopper process is dying after authentication, try 3.0.
--
Randall Gellens
Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only
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I loathe people who keep dogs. They are cowards who haven't got the
guts to bite people themselves. --August Strindberg
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 15:15:50 -0400
From: "Michael D. Sofka" <sofkam at rpi dot edu>
Subject: RE: Standalone pop3
At 10:56 AM 4/7/00 -0700, Randall Gellens wrote:
>I'm suggesting you do both: return an error, with the "[LOGIN-DELAY]"
>response code (for example, "-ERR [LOGIN-DELAY] You must wait at
>least 20 minutes between mail checks.") *and* use the '-e
>login_delay=nn' run-time option to set the CAPA login-delay response
>token. That way, updated clients won't even try to login too often,
>and other clients will get an error.
I would rather not generate an error message. People don't like when
what they have been doing for 5 years suddenly generates an error
message. I will also need to modify the rule based on the connecting IP,
current mailbox size, possibly the user id, and so on.
> >BTW, the child process in 2.53 is dying after password authentication.
> >I haven't tried 3.0 yet.
>
>If you're saying the Qpopper process is dying after authentication, try 3.0.
That's the plan. If daemon-mode worked, I could have added a last login
table quickly. Since it doesn't, I will pursue it in 3.0. (Which will need
modification for authenticating to the AFS databases anyway.)
The issue is really one of maximizing the resource (access to the mail
machine) for all users. Currently, a couple of users keep large mailboxes,
and poll frequently. We would like to return a quick "no new mail" when,
for example, the last recorded mailbox size is greater than X-meg, and
the last poll was less than Y seconds. But, this rule will be different if the
connections are coming from our soon to be installed web-mail server,
since it has it's own restrictions on polling, but needs to make extra pop
connections to read message bodies. I would also like as much of this
to be transparent as possible.
So, while your suggestions are good for some clients, they will not work
on a global scale. The web-mail server will need to make more frequent
pop connections for short periods of time, and generating error messages
for non-compliant clients is asking for a lot of email to the consult desk,
and would be a hard sell. But, if the policy is reasonable (once a minute
polling is fine so long as the mailbox is empty), and the change causes
no problems for the end user (silent roll-backs with documentation explaining
why some configurations are in your own best interest) there should be
no problems putting in the change.
Any of this will require a popper that keeps state information.
Besides, when you handle 500,000 popper connections a day, replacing
fork-exec with just fork, is a win. Especially if 100,000 of them can be
replaced with a direct response from the parent daemon.
Mike
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Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 17:34:39 -0700
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Qpopper 3.0fc2 available
Qpopper 3.0fc2 is available at
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/>.
This is Final Candidate 2 for the 3.0 release.
A somewhat abbreviated change list is on the Qpopper web site at
<http://www.qpopper.org/changelist.html>
The full list of changes from one beta release to the next is on the
FTP site, at
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/Changes>.
The 3.0 release notes are at:
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/Release.Notes>.
No big changes, just a few minor things to help with compilation on
some systems, such as SunOS 4.1 and NeXTStep.
Changes from 3.0fc1 to 3.0fc2
-----------------------------
1. Fixed use of 'DEFS' instead of 'OS_DEFS' in configure.
2. Account for sprintf not returning length of added chars
on some systems.
3. Avoid errors if POP_TIMEOUT or BLOCK_UID defined in Makefile.
From: Daniel Norton <danorton at chsw dot com>
Subject: Qpopper Not Logging with path
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 00:30:36 -0400
I put in this patch, but it doesn't seem to log anything when I do a POP
login. It's described in more detail here:
http://spam.abuse.net/tools/smPbS.html
Has anyone else tried this? Any clues? Thanks.
>*** pop_pass.c.orig Wed Dec 17 23:05:42 1997
>--- pop_pass.c Thu Nov 20 01:14:59 1997
>***************
>*** 630,635 ****
>--- 630,640 ----
> p->last_msg = 0;
>
> /* Authorization completed successfully */
>+ /* begin pop-before-smtp patch */
>+ pop_log(p,POP_PRIORITY,
>+ "(v%s) POP login for \"%s\" at (%s) %s",
>+ VERSION,p->user,p->client,p->ipaddr);
>+ /* end pop-before-smtp patch */
> return (pop_msg (p,POP_SUCCESS,
> "%s has %d message%s (%d octets).",
> p->user,p->msg_count, p->msg_count == 1 ? "" : "s", p->drop_size));
>
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 16:45:10 +1200 (NZST)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.0fc2 available
Why not integrate the standalone .c modules into the Makefile and allow
for inetd-child forking?
ie:
$ pstree
init-+-atd
|-inetd-+-in.identd---in.identd---9*[in.identd]
| `-qpopper---qpopper---9*[qpopper]
The identd line is from my system.
The qpopper line is what I'd like to see - I suspect a lot of admins
of heavily loaded boxes would like to see this too.
AB
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 16:55:08 +1200 (NZST)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: Qpopper Not Logging with path
On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Daniel Norton wrote:
> I put in this patch, but it doesn't seem to log anything when I do a POP
> login. It's described in more detail here:
> http://spam.abuse.net/tools/smPbS.html
>
> Has anyone else tried this? Any clues? Thanks.
It's not needed in 3.0fc1 - the logging is already there.
AB
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 10:45:01 +0200
From: Martin Bene <mb at sime dot com>
Subject: Re: Qpopper Not Logging with path
At 06:55 08.04.00, Alan Brown wrote:
>It's not needed in 3.0fc1 - the logging is already there.
Almost correct; it's there for APOP and for user/pass logins. CRAM-MD5
logins are not logged however. Add
#ifdef LOG_LOGIN
pop_log ( p, POP_PRIORITY, HERE,
"(v%s) POP login by user \"%s\" at (%s) %s",
VERSION, p->user, p->client, p->ipaddr );
#endif /* LOG_LOGIN */
before line 805 in pop_auth to fix.
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Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 05:09:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: Steven Champeon <schampeo at hesketh dot com>
Subject: Re: Qpopper Not Logging with path
On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Daniel Norton wrote:
> I put in this patch, but it doesn't seem to log anything when I do a POP
> login. It's described in more detail here:
> http://spam.abuse.net/tools/smPbS.html
>
> Has anyone else tried this? Any clues? Thanks.
Here's what I was using (it's actually 2.52, hacked quite a bit, and
uses DRAC instead of the abuse.net approach, but it's more or less the
same idea):
*** qpopper2.52/pop_pass.c Wed Jul 1 15:54:51 1998
--- qpopper2.52-drac/pop_pass.c Wed Aug 25 11:40:02 1999
***************
*** 18,23 ****
--- 18,27 ----
#include <pwd.h>
#include "popper.h"
+ #ifdef DRAC_AUTH
+ #include <netinet/in.h>
+ #include <arpa/inet.h>
+ #endif /* DRAC_AUTH */
#define SLEEP_SECONDS 10
***************
*** 27,33 ****
char *pwerrmsg = "Password supplied for \"%s\" is incorrect.";
-
#ifdef NONAUTHFILE
checknonauthfile(user)
char *user;
--- 31,36 ----
***************
*** 524,529 ****
--- 527,536 ----
int shellvalid;
#endif
+ #ifdef DRAC_AUTH
+ char *err;
+ #endif /* DRAC_AUTH */
+
#ifdef SECURENISPLUS
UID_T uid_save;
char net_name[MAXNETNAMELEN],
***************
*** 631,636 ****
--- 638,659 ----
/* Initialize the last-message-accessed number */
p->last_msg = 0;
+
+ #ifdef DRAC_AUTH
+ {
+ if (dracauth("localhost", inet_addr(p->ipaddr), &err) != 0) {
+ pop_log(p,POP_PRIORITY,err);
+ /* was POP_FAILURE, but kept filling up the console! */
+ pop_log(p,POP_PRIORITY,"user %s not authenticated from %s.",
+ p->user,p->ipaddr);
+ /* removed 07/23/99 - creating too much noise in the logs. - schampeo
+ } else {
+ pop_log(p,POP_SUCCESS,
+ "%s authenticated from %s. (DRAC POP-before-SMTP)",
+ p->user,p->ipaddr); */
+ }
+ }
+ #endif /* DRAC_AUTH */
/* Authorization completed successfully */
return (pop_msg (p,POP_SUCCESS,
Seemed to work fine for me. So well, in fact, that I commented it out and
recompiled again - it was filling up the logs. :)
Steve
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Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 15:11:10 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Qpopper Not Logging with path
Why not just use Qpopper 3.0 with the '--enable-log-login' option to
./configure? That way you are using a more stable version of
Qpopper, and no patch is needed.
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Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 15:09:36 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Qpopper Not Logging with path
At 10:45 AM +0200 4/8/00, Martin Bene wrote:
>Almost correct; it's there for APOP and for user/pass logins.
>CRAM-MD5 logins are not logged however.
Are you using the CRAM-MD5 code in Qpopper? With which clients?
(The Qpopper CRAM code is based on an earlier version of the draft,
so I'd be surprised if it works with any clients.)
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Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 23:34:21 -0400
From: Frank Beale <fbbeale at richmond.infi dot net>
Subject: case sensitive
Hello all!
We just switched from the IMAP software that come with the Red Hat
distribution to Qpopper. Everything is much faster than before however we
have run into a small problem that I hope someone can help with. Unknown to
us, the Imap software was accepting usernames with UPPER CASE letters in the
account name and was able to authenticate either way the username was typed.
Is there anyway to let Qpopper do the same? We seem to have a few users that
did not follow the instructions when they installed the mail the first time
and used uppercase letters. Now we are having to answer more calls to help
users fix the problem. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Frank Beale
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 00:06:00 -0500 (CDT)
From: Alex Charalabidis <alex at wnm dot net>
Subject: Re: case sensitive
On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Frank Beale wrote:
> Hello all!
>
> We just switched from the IMAP software that come with the Red Hat
> distribution to Qpopper. Everything is much faster than before however we
> have run into a small problem that I hope someone can help with. Unknown to
> us, the Imap software was accepting usernames with UPPER CASE letters in the
> account name and was able to authenticate either way the username was typed.
> Is there anyway to let Qpopper do the same? We seem to have a few users that
> did not follow the instructions when they installed the mail the first time
> and used uppercase letters. Now we are having to answer more calls to help
> users fix the problem. Any ideas?
>
Qpopper 3.0b18 and later support the -c flag which does precisely that.
You will never hear from the case-insensitive dummies again (until they
screw up the casing in their dialup passwd :).
-ac
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From: "Gary" <gary at ibms.sinica.edu dot tw>
Subject: About Quota
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:24:54 +0800
Hi ALL,
I have a question about disk quota.
We have setup quota in /var partition which stored users'
mailbox(/var/mail/username).
And we find that when a user connect via pop3, qpopper will create a temp
file as large
as user's mailbox.
At first, we thougth that if we want to provide 5Mb for each user, we will
set 10Mb to
prevent this problem. But now, we find that this is not a very good
solution. When a
user's mailbox over 5Mb, the system will still save his new mail to his
mailbox, but
the user cannot use pop3 to get his mail anymore because of over disk quota
limit.
Can I setup the temp file in a different partition from mailbox? or we can
use other way
to limit users' mailbox?
Any suggestion is appreciated.
Gary
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 13:00:03 +0200
From: Ezio Paglia <ezio at comune.grosseto dot it>
Subject: Change Password from client both for PASSWORD and APOP
Dear admin's,
I'd have some questions.
I need to allow users to change their own passwords from client. They are
both PASSWORD and APOP. Did you ever build such a poppassd utility
independant from the authentication method?
The second question is constituted by the APOP database (pop_auth). Is there
a simple way to register the APOP password without crypting it. Which line
of code are involved ? This questions arise from a previous version of ours
for the APOP db in which the password was written in the db as it was, so
that the POPAUTH -LIST command exactly showed the passwords. This was quite
practical in a system of about 3500 APOP users often forgetting their
password and requesting us to try the download in order to check the
connection.
Moreover did you ever implement methods of APOP in which such users need not
to be written in /etc/password ?
Is there a practical way to browse and modify the bulletin or APOP database
or to rebuild them after a corruption?
Is it possible to feed the popauth process with a generated password ? How ?
I apologise for my unexperience and the disturb, I am new to the list.
Yours Ezio.
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:35:43 -0700
From: Jonathan Marianu <marianuj at OIT dot EDU>
Subject: Re: About Quota
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I use two partitions; one for mbox and one for poptemp with different
quotas for each partition.
At 03:24 PM 4/10/00 +0800, Gary wrote:
>Hi ALL,
>
>I have a question about disk quota.
>We have setup quota in /var partition which stored users'
>mailbox(/var/mail/username).
>And we find that when a user connect via pop3, qpopper will create a temp
>file as large
>as user's mailbox.
>
>At first, we thougth that if we want to provide 5Mb for each user, we will
>set 10Mb to
>prevent this problem. But now, we find that this is not a very good
>solution. When a
>user's mailbox over 5Mb, the system will still save his new mail to his
>mailbox, but
>the user cannot use pop3 to get his mail anymore because of over disk quota
>limit.
>
>Can I setup the temp file in a different partition from mailbox? or we can
>use other way
>to limit users' mailbox?
>
>Any suggestion is appreciated.
>
>Gary
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<font size=3>I use two partitions; one for mbox and one for poptemp with
different quotas for each partition.<br>
<br>
<br>
At 03:24 PM 4/10/00 +0800, Gary wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite cite>Hi ALL,<br>
<br>
I have a question about disk quota.<br>
We have setup quota in /var partition which stored users'<br>
mailbox(/var/mail/username).<br>
And we find that when a user connect via pop3, qpopper will create a
temp<br>
file as large<br>
as user's mailbox.<br>
<br>
At first, we thougth that if we want to provide 5Mb for each user, we
will<br>
set 10Mb to<br>
prevent this problem. But now, we find that this is not a very good<br>
solution. When a<br>
user's mailbox over 5Mb, the system will still save his new mail to
his<br>
mailbox, but<br>
the user cannot use pop3 to get his mail anymore because of over disk
quota<br>
limit.<br>
<br>
Can I setup the temp file in a different partition from mailbox? or
we can<br>
use other way<br>
to limit users' mailbox?<br>
<br>
Any suggestion is appreciated.<br>
<br>
Gary<br>
</font></blockquote></html>
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From: "Karim" <knaguib at clickhere dot com>
Subject: RE: About Quota
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:47:05 -0500
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Please send me the information to take my name off this Qpopper list.
Thanks,
Karim
-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Marianu [mailto:marianuj at OIT dot EDU]
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 11:36 AM
To: Gary; Subscribers of Qpopper
Subject: Re: About Quota
I use two partitions; one for mbox and one for poptemp with different
quotas for each partition.
At 03:24 PM 4/10/00 +0800, Gary wrote:
Hi ALL,
I have a question about disk quota.
We have setup quota in /var partition which stored users'
mailbox(/var/mail/username).
And we find that when a user connect via pop3, qpopper will create a
temp
file as large
as user's mailbox.
At first, we thougth that if we want to provide 5Mb for each user, we
will
set 10Mb to
prevent this problem. But now, we find that this is not a very good
solution. When a
user's mailbox over 5Mb, the system will still save his new mail to his
mailbox, but
the user cannot use pop3 to get his mail anymore because of over disk
quota
limit.
Can I setup the temp file in a different partition from mailbox? or we
can
use other way
to limit users' mailbox?
Any suggestion is appreciated.
Gary
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5Mb, the
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Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 19:14:52 +0200
From: Raphael Maseko <ralph at zamnet dot zm>
Subject: em utility?
Does anyone out there know where I can get a utility called em by a guy
called Steve Mitchell used for zapping aged emails from users mailboxes?
Thanks in Advance
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From: Frank Pineau <frank at pineaus dot com>
Subject: Re: About Quota
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 13:14:30 -0400
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Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 12:50:17 -0500
From: Brad Blix <bblix at CPInternet dot com>
Subject: Re: em utility?
I found a utility called trashmail that is very useful. Its at
http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/system/mail/misc/trashmail-0.9h.tgz
Raphael Maseko wrote:
> Does anyone out there know where I can get a utility called em by a guy
> called Steve Mitchell used for zapping aged emails from users mailboxes?
>
> Thanks in Advance
>
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Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:50:59 -0700
From: Joel Laing <joel at scripps dot edu>
Subject: POP EOF or I/O error
Hi,
I've read the FAQ and understand the client timeout issue especially
over dial up connections an slow networks.
The FAQ mentions: "errors such as 'POP EOF', 'SIGHUP or SIGPIPE
flagged', or 'POP hangup'....
This is the error message I am getting: " -ERR POP EOF or I/O error:
Resource temporari " (yes the entry ends at "temporari")
The part that concerns me is the I/O error. Is this something different
than a client side timeout? There are no scsi or i/o errors etc... in
the syslog.
I'm running 3.0fc1. For performance reasons, I'm writing the .user.pop
temporary files to a seperate disk and controller than /var/mail.
Thanks,
Joel
From: Edward Concilio <econcilio at goamerica dot net>
Subject: RE: orphan and old .userid.pop files
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:31:34 -0400
Sorry not to reply to the message for so long. Very busy.
My original problem was resolved after I confirmed the latest version of
qpopper
was really in use, it wasn't. Woops. But I still have one problem;
For the most part, the .userid.pop have a file size of 0, they are normally
older then 5 hours and isn't a popper process associated with them. For now,
I manually delete the zero length .userid.pop files or if the .pop has data
in it, I cat .userid.pop >> userid and then delete .pop. A bit of a pain,
but it works.
Regarding my question about signaling the process and the bulletins:
Is it possible to send a signal, kill -TERM or USR1 or whatever, to
terminate/exit a running popper session? We have
customers who's maildrops are over 10 megs, who read their mail using CE and
palm devices, and I would like the
ability to cancel their pop session cleanly.
The bulletin feature work very well, it is far superior then what we have
been doing in the past, but for our specific needs. We have various groups,
at various levels if you will. To simplify my situation, I'll use to top
level groups and four second level groups, each with different grpids. The
two top level groups are employee and customer. The customer group (200),
has, lets say, four different regions, north (301), south (302), east (303),
and west (304). If I want to send one bulletin to all of my customers, group
(200), I can create a bulletin and place it in the bulletin dir with the
global customer grpid. But, if I want to create a bulletin just for one
region, say the north (301), I can't. Since all of my customer's primary
grpid is (200), even thought each of my northern customers have an entry in
the /etc/group.
Or am I missing something?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Qpopper Support [mailto:qpopper at qualcomm dot com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 3:17 PM
> To: Edward Concilio; qpopper at lists.pensive dot org
> Cc: qpopper at qualcomm dot com
> Subject: Re: orphan and old .userid.pop files
>
>
> At 11:09 AM -0400 4/5/00, Edward Concilio wrote:
>
> >Greetings,
> >
> >Recently, we have experienced orphan and old .userid.pop files
> >in /var/mail w/ corresponding popper processes.
>
> If the popper process still exists, it sounds like these are not
> orphaned files, but are in use. How long has the popper process been
> active? What is its current state when you look at it? What do
> truss(1) and pstack(1) show?
>
> >
> >Our server is a UltraSPARC-IIi, 300 Mhz, 5.6, w/ 2 Gigs ram,
> 18 gig hd,
> >and qpopper 3.0fc1 compiled w/
> >Reading specs from
> /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.95.2/specs
> >gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 (release)
> >
> >./configure --enable-log-login --enable-bulldb=/var/spool/bulls
> >--enable-debugging --enable-group-bulls
> >
> >Currently, I kill the popper process w/ kill -TERM pid then clean the
> >corresponding .userid.pop and
> >userid maildrop file.
> >
> >Two questions:
> >1) Any idea on how to resolve this problem and
> >
> >2) is there a signal that popper will recognize, USR1, USR2,
> TERM, etc, that
> >will end
> >the process and do it's own cleanup?
> >
> >BTW: The bulletins feature works really nice now. Only wish
> the it would
> >parse beyond the
> >primary group id.
>
> What is it you want the feature to do?
>
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 20:50:34 +0200
From: Raphael Maseko <ralph at zamnet dot zm>
Subject: Re: em utility?
Hi Brad,
I have tried out the utility you mentioned but somehow it seems to zap all the
headers of the emails in the box it works on, leaving them without sender's
address,subject , etc! ...anything I am missing?
Ralph
NB: I am running FreeBSD.
Brad Blix wrote:
> I found a utility called trashmail that is very useful. Its at
> http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/system/mail/misc/trashmail-0.9h.tgz
>
> Raphael Maseko wrote:
>
> > Does anyone out there know where I can get a utility called em by a guy
> > called Steve Mitchell used for zapping aged emails from users mailboxes?
> >
> > Thanks in Advance
> --
> Brad Blix
> Senior Network Engineer
> CP Internet
> 209 West First Street
> Duluth, MN 55802
> Voice: (218) 722-4245 X117
> Fax: (218) 722-4522
> bblix at CPInternet dot com
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Raphael Maseko -Communications Engineer, Email:ralph at zamnet dot zm
Zamnet Communications systems Ltd,
Box 22180, Kitwe, Zambia.
http://www.zamnet.zm
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
"...Life is like a box of chocolate, you never know what you gonna get"
-Forrest Gump
From: Graham Rose <graham at avint dot net>
Subject: Re: em utility?
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:01:02 -0230
Try garbmail on www.freshmeat.net - I found it better than trashmail.
--
Graham Rose
Network Administrator/UNIX Systems Administrator
Avalon InterConnect Corp & Infotech Canada
graham at infotechcanada dot com
http://www.avint.net
http://www.infotechcanada.com
On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Raphael Maseko wrote:
> Hi Brad,
> I have tried out the utility you mentioned but somehow it seems to zap all the
> headers of the emails in the box it works on, leaving them without sender's
> address,subject , etc! ...anything I am missing?
> Ralph
> NB: I am running FreeBSD.
>
> Brad Blix wrote:
>
> > I found a utility called trashmail that is very useful. Its at
> > http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/system/mail/misc/trashmail-0.9h.tgz
> >
> > Raphael Maseko wrote:
> >
> > > Does anyone out there know where I can get a utility called em by a guy
> > > called Steve Mitchell used for zapping aged emails from users mailboxes?
> > >
> > > Thanks in Advance
> > --
> > Brad Blix
> > Senior Network Engineer
> > CP Internet
> > 209 West First Street
> > Duluth, MN 55802
> > Voice: (218) 722-4245 X117
> > Fax: (218) 722-4522
> > bblix at CPInternet dot com
>
> --
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Raphael Maseko -Communications Engineer, Email:ralph at zamnet dot zm
> Zamnet Communications systems Ltd,
> Box 22180, Kitwe, Zambia.
> http://www.zamnet.zm
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> "...Life is like a box of chocolate, you never know what you gonna get"
> -Forrest Gump
From: "Jerry O'Brien" <jobrien at cuttingedge dot net>
Subject: Re: em utility?
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:42:56 -0700
Yeah, I got bit too. Any solution?
Jerry O'Brien
Cutting Edge Systems
----- Original Message -----
From: Raphael Maseko <ralph at zamnet dot zm>
To: Brad Blix <bblix at CPInternet dot com>
Cc: Subscribers of Qpopper <qpopper at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: em utility?
> Hi Brad,
> I have tried out the utility you mentioned but somehow it seems to zap all
the
> headers of the emails in the box it works on, leaving them without
sender's
> address,subject , etc! ...anything I am missing?
> Ralph
> NB: I am running FreeBSD.
>
> Brad Blix wrote:
>
> > I found a utility called trashmail that is very useful. Its at
> > http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/system/mail/misc/trashmail-0.9h.tgz
> >
> > Raphael Maseko wrote:
> >
> > > Does anyone out there know where I can get a utility called em by a
guy
> > > called Steve Mitchell used for zapping aged emails from users
mailboxes?
> > >
> > > Thanks in Advance
> > --
> > Brad Blix
> > Senior Network Engineer
> > CP Internet
> > 209 West First Street
> > Duluth, MN 55802
> > Voice: (218) 722-4245 X117
> > Fax: (218) 722-4522
> > bblix at CPInternet dot com
>
> --
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Raphael Maseko -Communications Engineer, Email:ralph at zamnet dot zm
> Zamnet Communications systems Ltd,
> Box 22180, Kitwe, Zambia.
> http://www.zamnet.zm
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> "...Life is like a box of chocolate, you never know what you gonna get"
> -Forrest Gump
>
>
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:26:50 -0500 (CDT)
From: Alex Charalabidis <alex at wnm dot net>
Subject: Re: em utility?
On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Raphael Maseko wrote:
> Hi Brad,
> I have tried out the utility you mentioned but somehow it seems to zap all the
> headers of the emails in the box it works on, leaving them without sender's
> address,subject , etc! ...anything I am missing?
> Ralph
> NB: I am running FreeBSD.
>
> Brad Blix wrote:
>
> > I found a utility called trashmail that is very useful. Its at
> > http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/system/mail/misc/trashmail-0.9h.tgz
> >
> > Raphael Maseko wrote:
> >
> > > Does anyone out there know where I can get a utility called em by a guy
> > > called Steve Mitchell used for zapping aged emails from users mailboxes?
Trashmail doesn't kill the headers, it just cripples them by removing all
newlines and concatenating them on a single line along with the first line
of the message body. If you're desperate to restore a mailbox, you'll
probably have to manually edit it to restore the headers.
Em or expire_mail by Steve Mitchell is an old utility. You can find two
different forms of it at http://www.westnet.com/providers/. Not having
used it, I can't promise that it'll work [well].
hth
-ac
--
==============================================================
Alex Charalabidis (AC8139) 5050 Poplar Ave, Ste 170
Systems Administrator Memphis, TN 38157
WebNet Memphis (901) 432 6000
Author, The Book of IRC http://www.bookofirc.com/
==============================================================
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:22:19 -0400
From: Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
Subject: Re: sub qpopper
On Fri, Mar 03, 2000 at 08:15:44AM +0200, Panagiotis Malakoudis wrote:
> I use pam.conf
> Do I also need to have a pam.d directory?
>
> The directives found under pam.conf are the following concerning the pop3
> protocol.
> pop3 auth required /lib/security/pam_pwdb.so shadow
> pop3 account required /lib/security/pam_pwdb.so
> pop3 password required /lib/security/pam_cracklib.so
> pop3 password required /lib/security/pam_pwdb.so nullok
> use_authtok md5 shadow
> pop3 session required /lib/security/pam_pwdb.so
>
> My system uses shadow passwords.
>
> =================
> Panagiotis S. Malakoudis
> Systems Administrator
> Space Hellas S.A.
> =================
You must have the PAM configuration files to tell the PAM libraries
which types of authentication you want to use for which services.
These reside in directory /etc/pam.d or, on older systems, in file
/etc/pam.conf.
--
Joe Yao jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov - Joseph S. D. Yao
COSPO/OSIS Computer Support EMT-B
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This message is not an official statement of COSPO policies.
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:55:57 -0400
From: Chantal Hunter <chantal at ilap dot com>
Subject: Re: SOLVED(1): mailboxes getting duplicated
Hello,
I am continually having problems with duplicate mailboxes and pop locks.
My log file contains numerous messages like the one below:
Apr 11 17:47:45 server26 popper3.0fc2[3981]: klauder at 216.223.128.46
(216.223.
128.46): -ERR [IN-USE] /usr/mail/.klauder.pop lock busy! Is another
session act
ive? (11) [pop_dropcopy.c:1330]
I am using v3.0fc2 in servermode on an Solaris Ultra E450 SunOS2.6 with
sendmail 8.9.3 (also used configure flags --enable-shy and --enabledebugging).
I tried turing off servermode, but this didn't seem to make a difference.
I also attempted to change the mlocal line in sendmail.cf, but the small m
was not in the configuration to be removed.
This problem seems to be getting worse every day. I have users who can't
get their mail because of pop locks and users whose mailboxes are
duplicating when they check them.
I did check the FAQ and the list archive, but I could not find a definitive
resolution to this problem.
Has anyone figured it out?
Thanks
Chantal
At 09:22 PM 2000-03-30 +0930, you wrote:
>At 5:14 PM +0200 3/29/00, Eric Luyten wrote:
>
>> > Have you tested that the mechanism to lock the mbox and the poplock
>>> (the .<userid>.pop files) works on your system? That is, a second
>>> popper process cannot start, because the .<userid>.pop file (1)
>>> exists and (2) is locked. And, that new messages to the mbox are
>>> blocked while the mbox is locked (during the critical copy phase).
>>
>>The local delivery typically uses the <username>.lock file while a second
>>Qpopper instance is prevented by the presence of a .<username>.pop file.
>>Those are two entirely different things.
>
>Qpopper uses both the .lock file (to lock the spool) and the presence of
>the .user.pop file (to ensure only one active session at a time). This
>code has been much improved in 3.0, so I'd suggest using 3.0fc1. If the
>problem still happens, I'd like to know as much detail as possible about
>the conditions.
>
---------------------------------------
Chantal Hunter
System Administrator
Internet Light and Power Inc.
Ph: (416) 250-0451 ext. 202
Fax: (416) 250-6755
-----------------------------------------
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:07:49 +0000 (GMT)
From: Kevin Dabson <kevin at dnc-electronics dot com>
Subject: Setting up dedicated qpoppers
Hi!
I am relative newcomer to mail server setups.
Currently have qpopper & sendmail running on same machine
(Redhat). Now want to have seperate qpopper boxes some
with APOP authentication etc.
What is best way to forward mail from sendmail
to qpopper machine or is this to do with
procmail?
Help appreciated
KD
From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:49:32 -0700
Subject: Re: Setting up dedicated qpoppers
On Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:07:49 +0000 (GMT), Kevin Dabson wrote:
>I am relative newcomer to mail server setups.
>
>Currently have qpopper & sendmail running on same machine
>(Redhat). Now want to have seperate qpopper boxes some
>with APOP authentication etc.
>
>What is best way to forward mail from sendmail
>to qpopper machine or is this to do with
>procmail?
sendmail is what's used to route mail from one machine to another. You
could install sendmail on each qpopper machine to receive mail from a
common hub. You might be able to use NFS to mount each qpopper
machine's spool on the hub sendmail machine, but NFS may have security
issues.
I'd suggest looking at comp.mail.misc and comp.mail.imap. The latter
group has a lot of traffic about heavily-loaded servers and general
mail server design. They should be able to address any issues involving
spreading the spool across several servers.
For general sendmail info (including configuration and the new 8.10.0
release) check out the comp.mail.sendmail newsgroup.
Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
http://www.harrybrowne2000.org/
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:54:40 -0700
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: SOLVED(1): mailboxes getting duplicated
At 5:55 PM -0400 4/11/00, Chantal Hunter wrote:
>Hello,
>I am continually having problems with duplicate mailboxes and pop locks.
>My log file contains numerous messages like the one below:
>
>Apr 11 17:47:45 server26 popper3.0fc2[3981]: klauder at
>216.223.128.46 (216.223.
>128.46): -ERR [IN-USE] /usr/mail/.klauder.pop lock busy! Is another
>session act
>ive? (11) [pop_dropcopy.c:1330]
>
>I am using v3.0fc2 in servermode on an Solaris Ultra E450 SunOS2.6
>with sendmail 8.9.3 (also used configure flags --enable-shy and
>--enabledebugging).
>I tried turing off servermode, but this didn't seem to make a difference.
>I also attempted to change the mlocal line in sendmail.cf, but the
>small m was not in the configuration to be removed.
>
>This problem seems to be getting worse every day. I have users who
>can't get their mail because of pop locks and users whose mailboxes
>are duplicating when they check them.
Do the two problems happen to different users, the same users, or some of each?
When a user can't check mail because the .user.pop file is busy, is
there another popper process active for the user? How long has it
been since the .user.pop file was touched?
When users report duplicate mail, had anything unusual happened prior?
You compiled-in debugging (--enable-debugging). Did you also enable
it at run-time ('-t tracefile' or '-d' added to inetd.conf line)? If
so, I'd be very interested in seeing the trace entries showing the
problems.
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:56:05 +0100
From: Wallace Nicoll <wallace at cityedin.demon.co dot uk>
Subject: Re: SOLVED(1): mailboxes getting duplicated
Chantal Hunter wrote:
> My log file contains numerous messages like the one below:
>
> ... : -ERR [IN-USE] /usr/mail/.klauder.pop lock busy! Is another
> session active? (11) [pop_dropcopy.c:1330]
>
> This problem seems to be getting worse every day. I have users who can't
> get their mail because of pop locks ...
We occasionally see problems with large mailboxes (20Mb+ and especially with large
messages within it), an overworked mail server, a slow network and low timeouts on
Outlook Express. When a user connects to collect their mail, it takes so long to
copy the mailbox into the temp copy, that the mail client times out before it has
done the file transfer. Or it tries to check for mail again before the previous
transfer is complete. Then users call our Help Desk!
Wallace.
--
======================================================================
Wallace Nicoll wallace at cityedin.demon.co dot uk
(Internet Services Team)
City of Edinburgh Council IT Services,
Chesser House, 500 Gorgie Road, Phone : 0131 469 5343
Edinburgh, EH11 3YJ, Scotland Fax : 0131 469 5335
[From overseas [P]+441314695343 [F]+441314695335 ]
======================================================================
From: "Lisa Casey" <lisa at jellico dot com>
Subject: Re: SOLVED(1): mailboxes getting duplicated
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 09:30:46 -0400
Hi,
>Outlook Express. When a user connects to collect their mail, it takes so
long to
>copy the mailbox into the temp copy, that the mail client times out before
it has
>done the file transfer. Or it tries to check for mail again before the
previous
>transfer is complete. Then users call our Help Desk!
When the users call have them set their server timeout in OutLook Express
higher. MS's default for this is one minute which isn't enough for your
mail server (or mine either!). Walk them through resetting it to 3, 4, or 5
minutes and they probably won't be calling your help desk again (at least
not for that problem).
Lisa Casey, Webmaster
Interstate 2000, Inc.
lisa at jellico dot com
webmaster at jellico dot com
From: "Michele Chubirka" <chubirka at gwu dot edu>
Subject: RE: SOLVED(1): mailboxes getting duplicated
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:53:46 -0400
We had the SAME problem. You can increase the default time out of qpopper
with the "-T#ofseconds" option(The RFC states it should be 10 minutes, but
Qpopper is set much lower by default.). Many of our users use Netscape
Messenger for email and there's no easy way to set a time out with that
application. You could also turn off reverse look-ups and statistics
reporting to cut down on excess I/O. We had the problem because of a
slowdown from disk contention. We shuffled file systems, I reset the time
out and no more problems.
Michele Chubirka
Systems Administrator, ISS
George Washington University
202-994-5791
-----Original Message-----
From: Lisa Casey [mailto:lisa at jellico dot com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 9:31 AM
To: Subscribers of Qpopper
Subject: Re: SOLVED(1): mailboxes getting duplicated
Hi,
>Outlook Express. When a user connects to collect their mail, it takes so
long to
>copy the mailbox into the temp copy, that the mail client times out before
it has
>done the file transfer. Or it tries to check for mail again before the
previous
>transfer is complete. Then users call our Help Desk!
When the users call have them set their server timeout in OutLook Express
higher. MS's default for this is one minute which isn't enough for your
mail server (or mine either!). Walk them through resetting it to 3, 4, or 5
minutes and they probably won't be calling your help desk again (at least
not for that problem).
Lisa Casey, Webmaster
Interstate 2000, Inc.
lisa at jellico dot com
webmaster at jellico dot com
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:41:55 -0400
From: "Michael D. Sofka" <sofkam at rpi dot edu>
Subject: Removing old email (was: Re: em utility?).
At 02:42 PM 4/11/00 -0700, Jerry O'Brien wrote:
>Yeah, I got bit too. Any solution?
You are welcome to try:
ftp://ftp.rpi.edu/home/89/sofkam/public/preenmail/preenmail.pl
ftp://ftp.rpi.edu/home/89/sofkam/public/preenmail/preenstats.pl
ftp://ftp.rpi.edu/home/89/sofkam/public/preenmail/README
It WILL require some site-specific modification (especially the lock file
and default temp file locations). The README file
tells you how. We've been running it for years with little mishap
(it printed X-RPI-Expires headers with the year 1900, once, but that
was quickly fixed and actually made no difference given the way
Perl's date routine worked).
Be sure to test file locking!!!!
Usual disclaimers apply. If you are going to run a script that removes
email, be sure to test it and test it again to be sure it works on your
site (preenmail has lots of options for testing, preserving the removed
email, and so on).
Mike
P.S. It also does perl pattern matching against headers and/or body,
so it's also useful for removing spam and viruses.
>Jerry O'Brien
>Cutting Edge Systems
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Raphael Maseko <ralph at zamnet dot zm>
>To: Brad Blix <bblix at CPInternet dot com>
>Cc: Subscribers of Qpopper <qpopper at lists.pensive dot org>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 11:50 AM
>Subject: Re: em utility?
>
>
> > Hi Brad,
> > I have tried out the utility you mentioned but somehow it seems to zap all
>the
> > headers of the emails in the box it works on, leaving them without
>sender's
> > address,subject , etc! ...anything I am missing?
> > Ralph
> > NB: I am running FreeBSD.
> >
> > Brad Blix wrote:
> >
> > > I found a utility called trashmail that is very useful. Its at
> > > http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/system/mail/misc/trashmail-0.9h.tgz
> > >
> > > Raphael Maseko wrote:
> > >
> > > > Does anyone out there know where I can get a utility called em by a
>guy
> > > > called Steve Mitchell used for zapping aged emails from users
>mailboxes?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in Advance
> > > --
> > > Brad Blix
> > > Senior Network Engineer
> > > CP Internet
> > > 209 West First Street
> > > Duluth, MN 55802
> > > Voice: (218) 722-4245 X117
> > > Fax: (218) 722-4522
> > > bblix at CPInternet dot com
> >
> > --
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Raphael Maseko -Communications Engineer, Email:ralph at zamnet dot zm
> > Zamnet Communications systems Ltd,
> > Box 22180, Kitwe, Zambia.
> > http://www.zamnet.zm
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > "...Life is like a box of chocolate, you never know what you gonna get"
> > -Forrest Gump
> >
> >
--
Michael D. Sofka sofkam at rpi dot edu
CIS/SSS Sr. Systems Programmer AFS/DFS, email, listproc, TeX, epistemology.
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY. http://www.rpi.edu/~sofkam/
From: Edward Concilio <econcilio at goamerica dot net>
Subject: RE: Removing old email (was: Re: em utility?).
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 14:54:16 -0400
Michael,
I was unable to retrieve the below specified files from ftp.rpi.edu
either by IE or ftp. User anonymous has restricted access, which excludes
access to the specified directory.
Edward Concilio
GoAmerica Communications Corp.
Senior Systems Admin.
401 Hackensack Ave.
Hackensack, NJ 07601
econcilio at goamerica dot net
econcilio at gomail dot net
http://www.goamerica.net
Tel: (201) 996-1717 x2243
Fax: (201) 996-1772
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael D. Sofka [mailto:sofkam at rpi dot edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 11:42 AM
> To: qpopper at lists.pensive dot org
> Subject: Removing old email (was: Re: em utility?).
>
>
> At 02:42 PM 4/11/00 -0700, Jerry O'Brien wrote:
> >Yeah, I got bit too. Any solution?
>
> You are welcome to try:
>
>
> ftp://ftp.rpi.edu/home/89/sofkam/public/preenmail/preenmail.pl
>
> ftp://ftp.rpi.edu/home/89/sofkam/public/preenmail/preenstats.pl
> ftp://ftp.rpi.edu/home/89/sofkam/public/preenmail/README
>
> It WILL require some site-specific modification (especially
> the lock file
> and default temp file locations). The README file
> tells you how. We've been running it for years with little mishap
> (it printed X-RPI-Expires headers with the year 1900, once, but that
> was quickly fixed and actually made no difference given the way
> Perl's date routine worked).
>
> Be sure to test file locking!!!!
>
> Usual disclaimers apply. If you are going to run a script
> that removes
> email, be sure to test it and test it again to be sure it
> works on your
> site (preenmail has lots of options for testing, preserving
> the removed
> email, and so on).
>
> Mike
>
> P.S. It also does perl pattern matching against headers and/or body,
> so it's also useful for removing spam and viruses.
>
> >Jerry O'Brien
> >Cutting Edge Systems
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Raphael Maseko <ralph at zamnet dot zm>
> >To: Brad Blix <bblix at CPInternet dot com>
> >Cc: Subscribers of Qpopper <qpopper at lists.pensive dot org>
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 11:50 AM
> >Subject: Re: em utility?
> >
> >
> > > Hi Brad,
> > > I have tried out the utility you mentioned but somehow it
> seems to zap all
> >the
> > > headers of the emails in the box it works on, leaving them without
> >sender's
> > > address,subject , etc! ...anything I am missing?
> > > Ralph
> > > NB: I am running FreeBSD.
> > >
> > > Brad Blix wrote:
> > >
> > > > I found a utility called trashmail that is very useful. Its at
> > > >
http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/system/mail/misc/trashmail-0.9h.tgz
> > >
> > > Raphael Maseko wrote:
> > >
> > > > Does anyone out there know where I can get a utility called em by a
>guy
> > > > called Steve Mitchell used for zapping aged emails from users
>mailboxes?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in Advance
> > > --
> > > Brad Blix
> > > Senior Network Engineer
> > > CP Internet
> > > 209 West First Street
> > > Duluth, MN 55802
> > > Voice: (218) 722-4245 X117
> > > Fax: (218) 722-4522
> > > bblix at CPInternet dot com
> >
> > --
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Raphael Maseko -Communications Engineer, Email:ralph at zamnet dot zm
> > Zamnet Communications systems Ltd,
> > Box 22180, Kitwe, Zambia.
> > http://www.zamnet.zm
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > "...Life is like a box of chocolate, you never know what you gonna get"
> > -Forrest Gump
> >
> >
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Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY. http://www.rpi.edu/~sofkam/
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 12:00:42 -0700
From: Greg Hiscott <gjh at keyconnect dot com>
Subject: qpopper stalling
When we receive messages with attachments. Qpopper stalls for like 30
seconds and then
eventually completes sending the files. Once for each attachment.
Anybody run into this?
Outlook2000 is the client (reported with netscrape as well)
SOlaris 2.6,2.7 on intel and sparc. is the server
All sun patches recommended have been installed.
Greg
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