The qpopper list archive ending on 23 Aug 2000
Topics covered in this issue include:
1. mailadministratormailinglists
"Tedd Hansen" <tedd.hansen at fastweb dot no>
Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:24:52 +0200
2. Re: mailadministratormailinglists
"Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Tue, 15 Aug 2000 10:24:40 -0700
3. Re: mailadministratormailinglists
"Jeremy C. Reed" <reed at wcug.wwu dot edu>
Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:55:11 -0700 (PDT)
4. RE: qpopper of multi-domain
"Jeremy C. Reed" <reed at wcug.wwu dot edu>
Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:24:21 -0700 (PDT)
5. Re: Qpopper 3.0.x on NFS ?
Carles Xavier Munyoz =?iso-8859-1?Q?Baldó?=
Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:27:23 +0200
6. Re: Performance ?
Carles Xavier Munyoz =?iso-8859-1?Q?Baldó?=
Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:49:34 +0200
7. APOP on 3.1b6 fixed <?>
Jeff Bronson <jdb at xpec dot com>
Wed, 16 Aug 2000 07:21:25 -0500
8. qpopper3.0.2 fails to compile with IRIX 6.5
Andrew Lare <lare at eos913c.gsfc.nasa dot gov>
Wed, 16 Aug 2000 11:54:33 -0400
9. Password not recognize by qpopper2.53
"penda paul" <paul_penda at hotmail dot com>
Thu, 17 Aug 2000 00:05:29 GMT
10. Re: timeout ?
Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Wed, 16 Aug 2000 19:51:13 -0700
11. Re: Password not recognize by qpopper2.53
"Kevin McKinnon" <kevin at sunshinecable dot com>
Wed, 16 Aug 2000 20:16:02 -0700
12. Re: NetBSD+qpopper3.0.2
Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Wed, 16 Aug 2000 22:49:58 -0700
13. Re: Compiling problems
Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Wed, 16 Aug 2000 22:59:59 -0700
14. Re: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE crap
Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Wed, 16 Aug 2000 23:03:14 -0700
15. Re: Password not recognize by qpopper2.53
"penda paul" <paul_penda at hotmail dot com>
Thu, 17 Aug 2000 06:06:15 GMT
16. Re: Password not recognize by qpopper2.53
Greg Francis <francis at gonzaga dot edu>
Thu, 17 Aug 2000 00:04:20 -0700
17. Re: timeout ?
Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Thu, 17 Aug 2000 20:28:16 +1200 (NZST)
18. Qpopper2.53 did not recognize any password
"penda paul" <paul_penda at hotmail dot com>
Thu, 17 Aug 2000 12:11:40 GMT
19. Re: Qpopper2.53 did not recognize any password
"Joel B. Laing" <joel at scripps dot edu>
Thu, 17 Aug 2000 10:09:07 -0700
20. Re: Performance ?
Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Thu, 17 Aug 2000 11:03:54 -0700
21. Re: qpopper3.0.2 fails to compile with IRIX 6.5
Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Thu, 17 Aug 2000 11:05:23 -0700
22. Re: timeout ?
Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Thu, 17 Aug 2000 11:13:25 -0700
23. Database Integration
Buddy Lee Haystack <haystack at email.rentzone dot org>
Thu, 17 Aug 2000 14:54:39 -0400
24. Qpopper initialization error
lucas at omsoft dot com
Thu, 17 Aug 2000 16:30:44 -0700
25. Re: Qpopper initialization error
Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Thu, 17 Aug 2000 17:51:19 -0700
26. Re: timeout ?
Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Fri, 18 Aug 2000 13:26:22 +1200 (NZST)
27. Re: timeout ?
Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Thu, 17 Aug 2000 18:49:33 -0700
28. Re: timeout ?
Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Fri, 18 Aug 2000 14:23:29 +1200 (NZST)
29. popper hangs
"Joseph Lee Pereira" <joseph at jpereira dot com>
Thu, 17 Aug 2000 22:16:20 -0600
30. Re: Performance ?
Carles Xavier Munyoz =?iso-8859-1?Q?Baldó?=
Fri, 18 Aug 2000 08:16:53 +0200
31. Qpopper2.53
"penda paul" <paul_penda at hotmail dot com>
Fri, 18 Aug 2000 09:31:47 GMT
32. Adding pop users
"Charles Alers" <charles at sitescape dot com>
Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:23:03 -0400
33. Re: Qpopper2.53
Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Fri, 18 Aug 2000 09:01:45 -0700
34. Re: Adding pop users
"Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:29:46 -0700
35. Qpopper 3.1b7 available
Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Sat, 19 Aug 2000 01:06:51 -0700
36. Is qpopper secure?
"Eduardo M. A. M. Mendes" <emmendes at funrei dot br>
Mon, 21 Aug 2000 11:03:59 -0300
37. Re: Is qpopper secure?
Gerhard Gonter <gonter at maestria.wu-wien.ac dot at>
Mon, 21 Aug 2000 16:12:44 +0200 (MES)
38. Re: Is qpopper secure?
Georg Schwarz <schwarz at physik.tu-berlin dot de>
Mon, 21 Aug 2000 16:14:17 +0200 (MEST)
39. Re: Is qpopper secure?
Gerhard Gonter <gonter at maestria.wu-wien.ac dot at>
Mon, 21 Aug 2000 17:43:22 +0200 (MES)
40. Re: Is qpopper secure?
Ken Hornstein <kenh at cmf.nrl.navy dot mil>
Mon, 21 Aug 2000 13:15:41 -0400
41. Re: Is qpopper secure?
Georg Schwarz <schwarz at physik.tu-berlin dot de>
Mon, 21 Aug 2000 19:14:47 +0200 (MEST)
42. Re: Is qpopper secure?
peter.allen at moon-light.co dot uk
Mon, 21 Aug 2000 18:51:20 +0100
43. Re: Is qpopper secure?
Buddy Lee Haystack <haystack at email.rentzone dot org>
Mon, 21 Aug 2000 13:36:09 -0400
44. Re: Is qpopper secure?
Ken Hornstein <kenh at cmf.nrl.navy dot mil>
Mon, 21 Aug 2000 16:07:29 -0400
45. users getting someone elses email
Robert McCallum <robert at mhi-tx dot com>
Tue, 22 Aug 2000 09:40:55 -0500
46. Qpopper 3.0.2 question.
Roar Pettersen <roar at heathcomm dot no>
Tue, 22 Aug 2000 16:52:31 +0200
47. Re: users getting someone elses email
Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Wed, 23 Aug 2000 02:49:31 +1200 (NZST)
48. ssl and apop together?
Karl Hoppel <hoppel at opt.nrl.navy dot mil>
Wed, 23 Aug 2000 10:56:41 -0400
49. Can I change the port for qpopper?
Karl Hoppel <hoppel at opt.nrl.navy dot mil>
Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:31:39 -0400
50. Re: Pop before SMTP and "makemap" problems
"A. M. Salim" <salim at localweb dot com>
Wed, 23 Aug 2000 17:03:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Tedd Hansen" <tedd.hansen at fastweb dot no>
Subject: mailadministratormailinglists
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:24:52 +0200
Sorry if this is kinda out of issue here, but I'm wondering if there exist
any good mailinglists for mailserver administrators where I can get my
questions answered (ie. what is the normal expunge time for read mail) .. ??
From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 10:24:40 -0700
Subject: Re: mailadministratormailinglists
On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:24:52 +0200, Tedd Hansen wrote:
>any good mailinglists for mailserver administrators
There's the comp.mail.misc newsgroup.
Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
http://www.harrybrowne2000.org/
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:55:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Jeremy C. Reed" <reed at wcug.wwu dot edu>
Subject: Re: mailadministratormailinglists
On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Tedd Hansen wrote:
> Sorry if this is kinda out of issue here, but I'm wondering if there exist
> any good mailinglists for mailserver administrators where I can get my
> questions answered (ie. what is the normal expunge time for read mail) .. ??
Consider joining a list for your MTA/mail server. If you use Exim then
joing exim-users. Or you may want to join a generic ISP-related mailing
list for your operating system, such as isp-linux.com. (Which reminds me:
I want to start a mailing list like isp-linux for ISPs running NetBSD.
Any interest? Email me off-list.)
Jeremy C. Reed
....................................................
BSD software, documentation, resources, news...
http://bsd.reedmedia.net/
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:24:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Jeremy C. Reed" <reed at wcug.wwu dot edu>
Subject: RE: qpopper of multi-domain
On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Tedd Hansen wrote:
> This is one alternate solution to the fact that the POP3 protocol currently
> does not support features such as the "HOST: " featue in http.
> (Meaning, POP3 can't separate several domains on one IP. tedd at domain1 dot com
> would also be tedd at domain2 dot com )
I use qpopper on some servers, but I also use a heavily patched gnu-pop3d
that adds support for seperate domains on some other servers. It basically
uses "user@domain" as the POP3 USER username to know to use a different
password file and mail spool directory for "domain". So tedd at domain1 dot com
is retrieved from a different tedd mailbox than tedd at domain2 dot com.
Jeremy C. Reed
....................................................
BSD software, documentation, resources, news...
http://bsd.reedmedia.net/
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:27:23 +0200
From: Carles Xavier Munyoz =?iso-8859-1?Q?Baldó?=
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.0.x on NFS ?
Jonathan Benson wrote:
> What changes have you had to make?
I have modified the maillock functions and included muy own spool lock
functions.
> Have you passed them back to the qpopper developers to work back in to one of
> the new Betas?
No, its a develop for my company, and at this moment I can't pass it to
anyone.
> I'm looking at getting a NAS box of some sort that will do NFS (currently
> leaning towards the Procomm Netforce 1500) for a central store for our
> web/database servers and am trying to determine if running our mail spool on
> there will be a viable option.
Yes, it is.
I have been using QPopper over NFS (with my source code modifications)
during more than 130 days without problems.
Greetings.
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Carles Xavier Munyoz Baldó / carles.munyoz at ctv-jet dot com
Wanadoo España
Dpto. Sistemas / System Department
Tel: +34 96 5040000 Ext. 40046 - Fax: +34 96 5040047
http://www.wanadoo.es/
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:49:34 +0200
From: Carles Xavier Munyoz =?iso-8859-1?Q?Baldó?=
Subject: Re: Performance ?
Jack Sasportas wrote:
> 1. How much ( if at all ) is qpopper -vs- ipop3d ?
I have no test about this.
> 2. Does the size of the mail file ( pop3 file for a user ) dramatically
> effect the cpu useage when someone is checking for new mail ?
> I have noticed since we are getting many email checks from our pop3
> users that our server cpu useage is going up, and particularly when
> someone is leaving the email on the server, and queries the file for
> anything new within the file. ie... you pick up 100 messages in the am,
> 10 more are delivered by 12:01pm, then at 12:02 you pick up the new 10,
> but this sequential process seems to have to go through the entire 100
> mesage to check if each one is new or not until finally finding the last
> 10 that are missing.
Yes, the size of the mail file has a very strong impact over the global
system perfomance (not only the CPU, the I/O system is affected to).
The behavior of QPopper when access to the user's mail file is:
(1) It reads all the contents of the file to obtain the messages
possition (if the file is very big, this operation will take several
seconds).
(2) Accepts and process the user comands.
(3) When the session is finished by the user, the QPopper will update te
contents of the mail file. Here we have to main scenarios:
A) The user delete all the messages in the mail file. QPopper leaves the
mail file with 0 bytes (this is a very quick operation).
B) The user leaves messages in the server. The mail file needs to be
updated. The QPopper has to read all the contents of the mail file again
and write it to a temporary file including the needed modifications.
Next it has to read all the temporary file and copy it over the original
mail file. If the mail file size is big this read-write-read-write
process takes lot of CPU time and I/O resources.
Greetings.
---
Carles Xavier Munyoz Baldó / carles.munyoz at ctv-jet dot com
Wanadoo España
Dpto. Sistemas / System Department
Tel: +34 96 5040000 Ext. 40046 - Fax: +34 96 5040047
http://www.wanadoo.es/
---
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 07:21:25 -0500
From: Jeff Bronson <jdb at xpec dot com>
Subject: APOP on 3.1b6 fixed <?>
I figured out the reason that APOP was failing on Solaris 8...
the libraries are located at /usr/local/lib and qpopper was seeking
/usr/lib
a simple symlink to /usr/local/lib solved that trouble. This happends only
with the NEW 3.1b6
Ironically, on another exact same machine...qpopper compiled fine, but
after initial popauth -init nothing will work:
# popauth -user joe
popauth: unable to open POP authentication DB /etc/pop.auth:
Permission denied (595)
I did verify that it was compiled with apop user pop and all the
permissions are set fine..I tired this 3X just to be sure...no luck.
I did notice, that when I do a popauth -init on THIS machine, I see two
files in /etc:
/etc/pop.auth.dir
/etc/pop.auth.pag
whereas on the original Sun machine, I do not see these files....I wonder
if this points to the source of the trouble?
I cannot understand this, as both machine are SUPPOSED to be identical.
Thanx!
--
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 11:54:33 -0400
From: Andrew Lare <lare at eos913c.gsfc.nasa dot gov>
Subject: qpopper3.0.2 fails to compile with IRIX 6.5
Qpopper 3.0.2 fails to compile with IRIX 6.5:
gcc -c -I.. -I.. -I. -I../mmangle -I../common \
-g -O2 -fpcc-struct-return -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DIRIX -DUNIX pop_user.c -o
pop_user.o
pop_user.c: In function `pop_user':
pop_user.c:233: warning: dereferencing `void *' pointer
pop_user.c:233: void value not ignored as it ought to be
pop_user.c:235: warning: dereferencing `void *' pointer
pop_user.c:235: void value not ignored as it ought to be
gmake[1]: *** [pop_user.o] Error 1
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/software/download/qpopper3.0.2/popper'
gmake: *** [popper_server] Error 2
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Andrew
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From: "penda paul" <paul_penda at hotmail dot com>
Subject: Password not recognize by qpopper2.53
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 00:05:29 GMT
Hi,
Passwords are not recognize after setting up qpopper2.53 or qpopper3.0.2.
how to fix this problem ?
Regards.
Paul
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 19:51:13 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: timeout ?
At 11:34 AM -0600 8/4/00, Ramón Alvarez Rayo wrote:
> timeout connection
>
> they begins to download mail but it's stop after 60 seconds.
Which clients are they using? There have been reports of problems
with Outlook. You might try Eudora and see if the problem still
occurs. (You can get Eudora for free at <http://www.eudora.com>).
You can adjust the server timeout by using the '-T' option, for
example, '-T 600' to use a 10-minute timeout.
From: "Kevin McKinnon" <kevin at sunshinecable dot com>
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 20:16:02 -0700
Subject: Re: Password not recognize by qpopper2.53
> Passwords are not recognize after setting up qpopper2.53 or qpopper3.0.2.
>
> how to fix this problem ?
When you ran configure, did you add --enable-specialauth to enable
shadow password support? It's a configure option listed in the
INSTALL file.
Cheers,
Kev
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Sunshine Communications http://www.sunshinecable.com
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 22:49:58 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: NetBSD+qpopper3.0.2
At 3:22 PM +0900 8/8/00, Takeshi Usui
/=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCMTEwZiEhN3IbKEI=?= wrote:
> I want toinstall qpopper3.0.2 in NetBSD 1.4(sparc)
> pop_user.c: In function `pop_user':
> pop_user.c:233: warning: dereferencing `void *' pointer
> pop_user.c:233: void value not ignored as it ought to be
> pop_user.c:235: warning: dereferencing `void *' pointer
> pop_user.c:235: void value not ignored as it ought to be
> *** Error code 1
Try 3.1b6, as it has BSD patches.
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 22:59:59 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Compiling problems
At 7:47 PM -0400 8/11/00, Pablo.Capo at rieder.net dot py wrote:
> Hi, I¥m getting this error when compiling qpopper on a Digital Unix 4.0=
f
>
> It complains about some "time_locked" variable not initialized on
> the line 1414
> of the "/popper/pop_dropcopy.c".
Are you sure it is an error and not a warning?
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 23:03:14 -0700
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE crap
At 2:46 PM -0400 8/14/00, Jack Sasportas wrote:
> I already use the following:
> ./configure --enable-specialauth --enable-uw-kludge
>
> and it still gives me the imap message, is there another way to take it
> off / ignore it ?
Try using 3.1b6.
If you still have a problem, enable tracing and send the trace file
to <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>, along with a copy of the DON'T DELETE THIS
MESSAGE.
To enable tracing in Qpopper:
1. Do a 'make clean'
2. Re-run ./configure, adding '--enable-debugging'.
3. Edit the inetd.conf line for Qpopper, adding '-d' or '-t tracefile'.
4. Send inetd a HUP signal.
This causes detailed tracing to be written to the syslog (if you used
'-d') or to the file specified as 'tracefile'.
From: "penda paul" <paul_penda at hotmail dot com>
Subject: Re: Password not recognize by qpopper2.53
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 06:06:15 GMT
yes i did, but the server reply always that my password is incorrect.
How to fix this problem ?
Cheers.
Paul
>From: "Kevin McKinnon" <kevin at sunshinecable dot com>
>Reply-To: Kevin McKinnon <kevin at sunshinecable dot com>
>To: "penda paul" <paul_penda at hotmail dot com>
>CC: qpopper at lists.pensive dot org
>Subject: Re: Password not recognize by qpopper2.53
>Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 20:16:02 -0700
>
>
> > Passwords are not recognize after setting up qpopper2.53 or
>qpopper3.0.2.
> >
> > how to fix this problem ?
>
>When you ran configure, did you add --enable-specialauth to enable
>shadow password support? It's a configure option listed in the
>INSTALL file.
>
>Cheers,
>Kev
>
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>
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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 00:04:20 -0700
Subject: Re: Password not recognize by qpopper2.53
From: Greg Francis <francis at gonzaga dot edu>
I ran into this type of problem with qpopper 2.5.3 on HPUX 10.20 running in
a trusted environment. The way the encrypted passwords were stored by HPUX
was different than the way that qpopper was handling the encryption. The
problem only occurred on passwords greater than eight characters in length.
qpopper would calculate the whole thing while I believe HPUX only actually
used the first eight. A simple mod to qpopper fixed the problem.
Greg
on 8/16/2000 11:06 PM, penda paul at paul_penda at hotmail dot com wrote:
> yes i did, but the server reply always that my password is incorrect.
>
> How to fix this problem ?
>
> Cheers.
>
> Paul
>
>
>> From: "Kevin McKinnon" <kevin at sunshinecable dot com>
>>
>>> Passwords are not recognize after setting up qpopper2.53 or
>> qpopper3.0.2.
>>>
>>> how to fix this problem ?
>>
>> When you ran configure, did you add --enable-specialauth to enable
>> shadow password support? It's a configure option listed in the
>> INSTALL file.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kev
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Unix System Administrator
Gonzaga University
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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 20:28:16 +1200 (NZST)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: timeout ?
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Randall Gellens wrote:
> Which clients are they using? There have been reports of problems
> with Outlook. You might try Eudora and see if the problem still
> occurs. (You can get Eudora for free at <http://www.eudora.com>).
Eudora has the same 60 second timeout by default.
You would save a _lot_ of tech support handholding problems if Eudora
looked at the size of a message to see if it's still growing, rather
thgan taking the dain bramaged approach that a messge which takes
longer than 'n' seconds is indicative of a stall_timeout
Especially in these days of multi-Mb attachments over 56k (or
slower) modems. Even on a 10Mb/s LAN there can be problems, as I
discovered yesterday.
> You can adjust the server timeout by using the '-T' option, for
> example, '-T 600' to use a 10-minute timeout.
QPopper thankfully uses some intelligence and looks at throughput, not
per message download time.
AB
From: "penda paul" <paul_penda at hotmail dot com>
Subject: Qpopper2.53 did not recognize any password
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 12:11:40 GMT
Hi,
I use Linux 6.2.
i set up ./configure --enable-specialauth
but, all passwords are denied,
How to fix this problem ?
Cheers.
Paul
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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 10:09:07 -0700
From: "Joel B. Laing" <joel at scripps dot edu>
Subject: Re: Qpopper2.53 did not recognize any password
Try adding: --with-pam=service-name Where service-name is pop3
It's all explained in the FAQ.
http://www.eudora.com/qpopper/faq.html#PAM
-Joel
penda paul wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I use Linux 6.2.
> i set up ./configure --enable-specialauth
>
> but, all passwords are denied,
>
> How to fix this problem ?
>
> Cheers.
>
> Paul
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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 11:03:54 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Performance ?
At 9:49 AM +0200 8/16/00, Carles Xavier Munyoz Baldó wrote:
> (3) When the session is finished by the user, the QPopper will update te
> contents of the mail file. Here we have to main scenarios:
> A) The user delete all the messages in the mail file. QPopper leaves the
> mail file with 0 bytes (this is a very quick operation).
> B) The user leaves messages in the server. The mail file needs to be
> updated. The QPopper has to read all the contents of the mail file again
> and write it to a temporary file including the needed modifications.
> Next it has to read all the temporary file and copy it over the original
> mail file. If the mail file size is big this read-write-read-write
> process takes lot of CPU time and I/O resources.
You can improve the latter situation by using server mode, which
helps greatly if (a) all mail is deleted, or (b) all mail is left on
the server and no new mail was present in this session.
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 11:05:23 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: qpopper3.0.2 fails to compile with IRIX 6.5
At 11:54 AM -0400 8/16/00, Andrew Lare wrote:
> Qpopper 3.0.2 fails to compile with IRIX 6.5:
>
> gcc -c -I.. -I.. -I. -I../mmangle -I../common \
> -g -O2 -fpcc-struct-return -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DIRIX -DUNIX pop_user.c -o
> pop_user.o
> pop_user.c: In function `pop_user':
> pop_user.c:233: warning: dereferencing `void *' pointer
> pop_user.c:233: void value not ignored as it ought to be
> pop_user.c:235: warning: dereferencing `void *' pointer
> pop_user.c:235: void value not ignored as it ought to be
> gmake[1]: *** [pop_user.o] Error 1
> gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/software/download/qpopper3.0.2/popper'
> gmake: *** [popper_server] Error 2
>
> Any suggestions?
Try 3.1b6.
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 11:13:25 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: timeout ?
At 8:28 PM +1200 8/17/00, Alan Brown wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Randall Gellens wrote:
>
>> Which clients are they using? There have been reports of problems
>> with Outlook. You might try Eudora and see if the problem still
>> occurs. (You can get Eudora for free at <http://www.eudora.com>).
>
> Eudora has the same 60 second timeout by default.
>
> You would save a _lot_ of tech support handholding problems if Eudora
> looked at the size of a message to see if it's still growing, rather
> thgan taking the dain bramaged approach that a messge which takes
> longer than 'n' seconds is indicative of a stall_timeout
>
> Especially in these days of multi-Mb attachments over 56k (or
> slower) modems. Even on a 10Mb/s LAN there can be problems, as I
> discovered yesterday.
>
>> You can adjust the server timeout by using the '-T' option, for
>> example, '-T 600' to use a 10-minute timeout.
>
> QPopper thankfully uses some intelligence and looks at throughput, not
> per message download time.
What makes you say that Eudora's timeout is per transaction instead
of for network inactivity? I checked with both the Mac and Windows
Eudora client team, and was told that Eudora's timeout, while five
minutes by default, is how long it waits after receiving network data
for it to receive any more.
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 14:54:39 -0400
From: Buddy Lee Haystack <haystack at email.rentzone dot org>
Subject: Database Integration
Database Integration:
Any RELATIVELY EASY way to integrate Qpopper with a database such as PostgreSQL, and thereby avoid speed issues with storing email messages in "mailbox" files?
Thanks!
From: lucas at omsoft dot com
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 16:30:44 -0700
Subject: Qpopper initialization error
The following error occurs when I try and load qpopper:
Unable to obtain socket and address of client: Socket operation on non-socket
It occurred just after I installed qpopper 2.53 for the first time. Anyone
know of a solution? Maybe this is common, I don't know. I couldn't find any
archives for this list, so I apologize if this has been answered before.
Lucas
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 17:51:19 -0700
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Qpopper initialization error
At 4:30 PM -0700 8/17/00, lucas at omsoft dot com wrote:
> The following error occurs when I try and load qpopper:
>
> Unable to obtain socket and address of client: Socket operation
> on non-socket
>
> It occurred just after I installed qpopper 2.53 for the first time. Anyone
> know of a solution? Maybe this is common, I don't know. I couldn't find any
> archives for this list, so I apologize if this has been answered before.
>
> Lucas
Probably qpopper is not being launched from inetd. Check the
INSTALL file for detailed instructions.
Also, I'd advise using 3.0.2 or 3.1b6 instead of 2.53. There are
security issues in 2.53 (and 3.x is much more stable). 3.1b7
should be out this week, you might go to that.
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 13:26:22 +1200 (NZST)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: timeout ?
On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, Randall Gellens wrote:
> What makes you say that Eudora's timeout is per transaction instead
> of for network inactivity?
Bitter experience.
> I checked with both the Mac and Windows
> Eudora client team, and was told that Eudora's timeout, while five
> minutes by default, is how long it waits after receiving network data
> for it to receive any more.
2.* and 3.* both have 60 second connect and collect defaults (not 300
seconds) and I've watched both versions decide a message is taking too
long to download while the modem is still streaming away happily.
AB
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 18:49:33 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: timeout ?
At 1:26 PM +1200 8/18/00, Alan Brown wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, Randall Gellens wrote:
>
>> What makes you say that Eudora's timeout is per transaction instead
>> of for network inactivity?
>
> Bitter experience.
>
>> I checked with both the Mac and Windows
>> Eudora client team, and was told that Eudora's timeout, while five
>> minutes by default, is how long it waits after receiving network data
>> for it to receive any more.
>
> 2.* and 3.* both have 60 second connect and collect defaults (not 300
> seconds) and I've watched both versions decide a message is taking too
> long to download while the modem is still streaming away happily.
>
> AB
2.x and 3.x are very ancient. I don't have any copies laying about
to try, so I can't say if those very outdated versions behave as
you say.
However, if you have any users still on 2.x or 3.x (or even 1.x),
why not have them upgrade? 4.3 is available for free. 5.0 is in
public beta (also free).
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 14:23:29 +1200 (NZST)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: timeout ?
On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, Randall Gellens wrote:
> 2.x and 3.x are very ancient.
Aye.
> However, if you have any users still on 2.x or 3.x (or even 1.x),
> why not have them upgrade? 4.3 is available for free. 5.0 is in
> public beta (also free).
Because lots of users refuse to and the later versions are hell on
machines with small memory - we have a lot of 4Mb 386 win3 boxes lurking
around the area.
AB
From: "Joseph Lee Pereira" <joseph at jpereira dot com>
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 22:16:20 -0600
Subject: popper hangs
Hello,
I have found that by repeatedly hitting the Get Mail you basically
lock up popper. It does not matter what mail client you use,
Netscape, Pegasus, etc. One user knowing this trick can lock up mail
retrieval for the entire network.
Anyone have a solution?
Using:
Sendmail 8.10.1
Kernel 2.2.16
Mandrake 7.1
popper
joseph at jpereira dot com
Thanks...
- Joseph Lee Pereira
pereira at jpereira dot com
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 08:16:53 +0200
From: Carles Xavier Munyoz =?iso-8859-1?Q?Baldó?=
Subject: Re: Performance ?
Randall Gellens wrote:
> > (3) When the session is finished by the user, the QPopper will update te
> > contents of the mail file. Here we have to main scenarios:
> > A) The user delete all the messages in the mail file. QPopper leaves the
> > mail file with 0 bytes (this is a very quick operation).
> > B) The user leaves messages in the server. The mail file needs to be
> > updated. The QPopper has to read all the contents of the mail file again
> > and write it to a temporary file including the needed modifications.
> > Next it has to read all the temporary file and copy it over the original
> > mail file. If the mail file size is big this read-write-read-write
> > process takes lot of CPU time and I/O resources.
>
> You can improve the latter situation by using server mode, which
> helps greatly if (a) all mail is deleted, or (b) all mail is left on
> the server and no new mail was present in this session.
In the (b) case, the mail spool will need to be upated if there is new
mail (QPopper adds the header X-UIDL).
Greetings.
---
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Wanadoo España
Dpto. Sistemas / System Department
Tel: +34 96 5040000 Ext. 40046 - Fax: +34 96 5040047
http://www.wanadoo.es/
---
From: "penda paul" <paul_penda at hotmail dot com>
Subject: Qpopper2.53
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 09:31:47 GMT
Hi,
How to fix the the problem below ?
I sue Linux Redhat 6.2 and i've set up Qpopper2.53, the server name is mail.
I can't get any incoming email with my email address like user@mydomain.
All incoming email arrived with user at mail dot mydomain.
How to fix this problem that all incoming email arrive with user@mydomain
not with user at mail dot mydomain ?
Cheers
Paul
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From: "Charles Alers" <charles at sitescape dot com>
Subject: Adding pop users
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:23:03 -0400
I need to write a script that will add a new pop user account. Is there a
command in Qpopper that does this? Thanks.
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 09:01:45 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Qpopper2.53
At 9:31 AM +0000 8/18/00, penda paul wrote:
> Hi,
>
> How to fix the the problem below ?
>
> I sue Linux Redhat 6.2 and i've set up Qpopper2.53, the server name is mail.
First, don't use 2.53 -- use 3.0.2 (or even 3.1). 2.53 has security
problem, plus Linux problems.
>
>
> I can't get any incoming email with my email address like user@mydomain.
>
> All incoming email arrived with user at mail dot mydomain.
>
> How to fix this problem that all incoming email arrive with user@mydomain
> not with user at mail dot mydomain ?
Probably your MX records are not set up, and/or your SMTP server is
not configured properly. Check with your SMTP server documentation.
From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:29:46 -0700
Subject: Re: Adding pop users
On Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:23:03 -0400, Charles Alers wrote:
>I need to write a script that will add a new pop user account. Is there a
>command in Qpopper that does this? Thanks.
That depends on the platform, what authentication scheme you're using,
and what qpopper options you have configured.
I rolled one for Red Hat 6.1 that adds the user as pop-only to passwd
(using useradd), to sendmail's virtusertable, genericstable, and
aliases, and to qpopper's authfile. Wasn't very hard. I did it mainly
to provide an easy way for my assistant to add new email-only users.
Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
http://www.harrybrowne2000.org/
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 01:06:51 -0700
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Qpopper 3.1b7 available
Qpopper 3.1b7 is available at
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/>.
A somewhat abbreviated change list is on the Qpopper web site at
<http://www.qpopper.org/changelist.html>
The full list of changes from one release to the next is on the FTP
site, at
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/beta/Changes>.
The 3.1 release notes are at:
<ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/popper/beta/Release.Notes>.
Changes from 3.1b6 to 3.1b7
---------------------------
1. Fixed null sometimes returned to clients when mangling.
2. Fixed LIST crash when mangle used on unrecognized MIME type.
3. Fixed --enable-shy so version is reported in log.
4. Added '--enable-standalone' to create standalone POP daemon
instead of being run out of inetd. Can specify IP address
and/or port number to bind to as parameter 1, e.g.,
'popper 199.46.50.7:8110 -S' or 'popper 8110 -S -T600'.
If not specified, IP address defaults to all available. The
default port is 110 except when _DEBUG (not simply DEBUG) is
defined, then it is 8765.
5. Fixed EDQUOT not defined on some systems.
6. BULLDB access now uses usleep(3C) if available, resulting in
many more access attempts with a shorter maximum delay.
7. Added run-time options 'bulldb-nonfatal' (-B) and
'bulldb-max-retries' to allow fine control over BULLDB access
behavior. 'bulldb-nonfatal' allows a session to continue if
the bulletin database can't be locked. 'bulldb-max-retries'
sets the maximum number of attempts to lock the database. This
value should only be changed if you know if your system has
usleep(3C) or not. On systems with usleep(3C), this can be a
large value (the default is 75). On systems without usleep(3C),
this should remain small (the default is 10).
8. Timestamp in tracefile now omits name of day of week and year, and
shows milliseconds if system has gettimeofday(3C).
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 11:03:59 -0300
From: "Eduardo M. A. M. Mendes" <emmendes at funrei dot br>
Subject: Is qpopper secure?
Hello
I was wondering if someone could help me to understand a bit more of
pop servers., specially
qppoper which I have been using for quite a while.
For instance, when I configure netscape to read my emails on my
qpopper server (outside my ISP domain) do I have any kind of security? I
mean, am I sending a plain text password to the server? Or does qopper
have any sort of encryption mechanism?
Thanks a lot.
Ed
From: Gerhard Gonter <gonter at maestria.wu-wien.ac dot at>
Subject: Re: Is qpopper secure?
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 16:12:44 +0200 (MES)
According to Eduardo M. A. M. Mendes:
> [...]qpopper server (outside my ISP domain) do I have any kind of security?
> I mean, am I sending a plain text password to the server? Or does qopper
> have any sort of encryption mechanism?
qpopper allows tradionial authentication with "pass" where the password
is transmitted in plain text over the POP channel and also support
"apop" authentication. "apop" is a challenge exchange protocol and
does NOT transmit the shared secred (the password) in plain text. To
use apop you need a compliant mail client e.g. Eudora. Also, you
provider needs to provide a method to store the shared secret on the
POP server.
+gg
--
Gerhard.Gonter at wu-wien.ac.at Fax: +43/1/31336/702 g dot gonter at ieee dot org
Zentrum fuer Informatikdienste, Wirtschaftsuniversitaet Wien, Austria
Subject: Re: Is qpopper secure?
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 16:14:17 +0200 (MEST)
From: Georg Schwarz <schwarz at physik.tu-berlin dot de>
> Hello
> I was wondering if someone could help me to understand a bit more of
> pop servers., specially
> qppoper which I have been using for quite a while.
> For instance, when I configure netscape to read my emails on my
> qpopper server (outside my ISP domain) do I have any kind of security? I
no, none.
> mean, am I sending a plain text password to the server? Or does qopper
yes.
> have any sort of encryption mechanism?
basically, no.
--
Georg Schwarz schwarz at physik.tu-berlin dot de
Institut für Theoretische Physik Tel. +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130
Technische Universität Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/
Sekr. PN 7-1, Hardenbergstr. 36, D-10623 Berlin IRC: kuroi
From: Gerhard Gonter <gonter at maestria.wu-wien.ac dot at>
Subject: Re: Is qpopper secure?
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 17:43:22 +0200 (MES)
According to Georg Schwarz:
> > I mean, am I sending a plain text password to the server?
> yes.
> > Or does qopperhave any sort of encryption mechanism?
> basically, no.
Assuming the original poster asked about password encryption alone
and not about the encryption of the TCP transport itself, then the
apop authentication would be sufficient avoid sending plain text
passwords.
If the poster asked about transport layer encryption, then qpopper
would not be able to provide this by itself.
+gg
--
Gerhard.Gonter at wu-wien.ac.at Fax: +43/1/31336/702 g dot gonter at ieee dot org
Zentrum fuer Informatikdienste, Wirtschaftsuniversitaet Wien, Austria
Subject: Re: Is qpopper secure?
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 13:15:41 -0400
From: Ken Hornstein <kenh at cmf.nrl.navy dot mil>
>If the poster asked about transport layer encryption, then qpopper
>would not be able to provide this by itself.
As shipped, no. But I've been running it for months with SASL layer
encryption that I added; wasn't really that much work.
--Ken
Subject: Re: Is qpopper secure?
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 19:14:47 +0200 (MEST)
From: Georg Schwarz <schwarz at physik.tu-berlin dot de>
> Assuming the original poster asked about password encryption alone
> and not about the encryption of the TCP transport itself, then the
> apop authentication would be sufficient avoid sending plain text
> passwords.
yes, but he mentioned using Netscape, which AFAIK does not support
APOP.
--
Georg Schwarz schwarz at physik.tu-berlin dot de
Institut für Theoretische Physik Tel. +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130
Technische Universität Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/
Sekr. PN 7-1, Hardenbergstr. 36, D-10623 Berlin IRC: kuroi
From: peter.allen at moon-light.co dot uk
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 18:51:20 +0100
Subject: Re: Is qpopper secure?
At 11:03 21/08/00 -0300, Eduardo M. A. M. Mendes wrote:
>Hello
> I was wondering if someone could help me to understand a bit more of
>pop servers., specially
>qppoper which I have been using for quite a while.
> For instance, when I configure netscape to read my emails on my
>qpopper server (outside my ISP domain) do I have any kind of security? I
>mean, am I sending a plain text password to the server? Or does qopper
>have any sort of encryption mechanism?
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
>Ed
>
Hi Ed
As you are remote from your qpopper server and concerned about security
including encryption, why not think about using SSH ?
To protect your password you just need to set up SSH port forwarding from
the local machine's pop 3 port to the server's pop 3 port.
This is quite straightforward as you can use for example Tera Term Pro -
which is free and works well as a SSH client - to do the forwarding, and
then you just configure your e-mail client to connect to itself on
127.0.0.1 rather than the actual mail server. Your username and password
get sent down the SSH tunnel for you. Bingo !
(Although it's off topic the same can be done to protect your FTP sessions
but please note that in both cases it is assumed that you have a shell
account on the remote server which also clearly must be running a SSH
server.)
I hope this helps and is of interest to the list generally. Comments
anyone ?
Peter Allen
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 13:36:09 -0400
From: Buddy Lee Haystack <haystack at email.rentzone dot org>
Subject: Re: Is qpopper secure?
OK Ken,
I think we'd all like to know more about your enhancement...;-)
Ken Hornstein wrote:
>
> >If the poster asked about transport layer encryption, then qpopper
> >would not be able to provide this by itself.
>
> As shipped, no. But I've been running it for months with SASL layer
> encryption that I added; wasn't really that much work.
>
> --Ken
Subject: Re: Is qpopper secure?
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 16:07:29 -0400
From: Ken Hornstein <kenh at cmf.nrl.navy dot mil>
>I think we'd all like to know more about your enhancement...;-)
*shrug*; I've certainly mentioned it before. You can get the patches
from ftp://ftp.cmf.nrl.navy.mil/pub/kenh/qpopper-sasl-patch-3.0.2 (I
have patches for 3.1.*; contact me privately).
The real trick is getting client support; I added it to nmh, and a co-worker
did the necessary magic for mutt. Haven't quite gotten client support
for SASL in Eudora yet.
--Ken
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 09:40:55 -0500
From: Robert McCallum <robert at mhi-tx dot com>
Subject: users getting someone elses email
hello,
I am running qpopper 3.0.2 on FreeBSD 3.2 and sendmail 8.10.2.
The problem I am having is that since I upgraded qpopper and sendmail is
that every now and then a user will get someone else's mail. (this has
happened 4 times in the last 2 days)
I am writing to this list because I have taken a look at the mail that
one of the users picked up by mistake and the headers look right. i.e.
the address is to the correct user. This is why I thought it might be a
problem with qpopper.
any pointers in the right direction will be greatly appreciated.
thanks for your time.
Robert
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 16:52:31 +0200
From: Roar Pettersen <roar at heathcomm dot no>
Subject: Qpopper 3.0.2 question.
Hi !
I've started using qpopper 3.0.2 on a older Slackware 3.9 Linux
and I'm seeing this error message in the log file :
thor at dialup.bogus.com (1.1.1.1): -ERR Message 1 does not exist.
Checking in the /usr/spol/mail and /var/spool/mail, the user have no
e-mails.
I compiled qpopper-3.0.2 with this :
./configure --enable-specialauth --enable-uw-kludge
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 02:49:31 +1200 (NZST)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: users getting someone elses email
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Robert McCallum wrote:
> I am writing to this list because I have taken a look at the mail that
> one of the users picked up by mistake and the headers look right. i.e.
> the address is to the correct user. This is why I thought it might be a
> problem with qpopper.
It won't be. Qpopper only goes to canonical user mailboxes.
> any pointers in the right direction will be greatly appreciated.
> thanks for your time.
Check for virtuser or aliases table mixups.
AB
Subject: ssl and apop together?
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 10:56:41 -0400
From: Karl Hoppel <hoppel at opt.nrl.navy dot mil>
I am new to this list and to qpopper, so a apologize
if this topic has already been covered.
I am running qpopper on linux and allowing only APOP
connections in order to prevent plain-text passwords.
However, netscape and outlook users would like to connect
using SSL.
It looks like SSLwrap can be used to run SSL on the
spop3 port(995) and pass the output to the standard
pop3 port(110). Will this work okay with qpopper?
If so, will a connection from the spop3 port look the
same as from the pop3 port to qpopper?
Any suggestions or help?
Karl
Subject: Can I change the port for qpopper?
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:31:39 -0400
From: Karl Hoppel <hoppel at opt.nrl.navy dot mil>
While waiting for a reply to my previous post,
I successfully configured and tested SSLwrap
for SSL connections to qpopper. The problem I see
is the qpopper must be configured to allow plain text
passwords because the SSLwrap pipes the connection
back to the standard pop3 port. Is it possible to change
the port for qpopper. If I changed it to an unused port and
configured SSLwrap to pipe the SSL connection to the
new port, then it would discourage non-SSL connections
because qpopper would be listening to a non-standard port.
Comments?
Karl
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 17:03:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: "A. M. Salim" <salim at localweb dot com>
Subject: Re: Pop before SMTP and "makemap" problems
Hi,
We are using the "POP before SMTP" solution and have been plagued with a
problem for some time. I wonder if any other users of "POP before SMTP"
have seen this problem. We are using this on a RedHat Linux box
with sendmail 8.9.3 and qpopper 3.0.2
POP befor SMTP works just fine, then all of a sudden, for no apparent
reason, it stops denying relaying for everyone. It almost seems as if the
makemap hash table gets "corrupted" somehow. For example, the "makemap
hash popper" command stops working, it just hangs. Rebooting the server
fixes it.
Anyone seen this problem? Does anyone know of any tools to debug the hash
table?
(PS: I realize that there are other solutions such as DRAC, and swithcing
to one of thise might resolve this problem but who knows what else will
break, I'd rather fix the known problem at hand. I also realize there are
other, newer versions of sendmail and qpopper, same comment. ;-).
best regards
Mike.