The qpopper list archive ending on 22 Dec 2000
Topics covered in this issue include:
1. Re: Serious problem....
Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Wed, 20 Dec 2000 11:10:28 -0800
2. Re: Using quota
Edwin <edwin at introweb dot nl>
Wed, 20 Dec 2000 20:45:24 +0100 (CET)
3. Re: Obviously I have an error!
Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Wed, 20 Dec 2000 11:06:33 -0800
4. Re: Using quota
Sergiy Zhuk <serge at yahoo-inc dot com>
Wed, 20 Dec 2000 12:26:20 -0800 (PST)
5. Re: Bind compile under gcc?
Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
Wed, 20 Dec 2000 17:07:04 -0500
6. Re: Bind compile under gcc?
Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
Wed, 20 Dec 2000 17:12:38 -0500
7. Re: Serious problem....
Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
Wed, 20 Dec 2000 18:01:02 -0500
8. need help
Karl Hoppel <hoppel at opt.nrl.navy dot mil>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 07:45:30 -0500
9. Re: need help
Gerhard Gonter <gonter at maestria.wu-wien.ac dot at>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 14:07:36 +0100 (MEZ)
10. Re: need help
peter.allen at moon-light.co dot uk
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 13:12:50 +0000
11. Re: need help - THANKS
Karl Hoppel <hoppel at opt.nrl.navy dot mil>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 08:32:58 -0500
12. RE: need help
"InvictaNet Customer Support" <support at invictanet.co dot uk>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 13:43:37 -0000
13. Quick remedy for locked mailboxes?
"Brian Curtis" <lists at pomfret dot net>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 09:04:36 -0500
14. Re: need help
"Armelle Nedelec" <anedelec at inco.com dot lb>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 15:13:26 +0200
15. Re: need help
Peter Evans <peter at gol dot com>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 22:32:45 +0900
16. Re: Using quota
mike miller <mikem at ndtel dot com>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 08:35:18 -0600
17. Re: Quick remedy for locked mailboxes?
"Joseph W. Breu" <breu at cfu dot net>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 08:43:08 -0600 (CST)
18. Re: need help
Darin Dugan <dddugan at iastate dot edu>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 08:18:54 -0600
19. Re: Using quota
"Edwin Ringersma" <edwin at introweb dot nl>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 17:06:29 +0100
20. Re: Quick remedy for locked mailboxes?
"Brian Curtis" <lists at pomfret dot net>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 10:41:52 -0500
21. Re: Quick remedy for locked mailboxes?
"Joseph W. Breu" <breu at cfu dot net>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 11:34:53 -0600 (CST)
22. Re: Quick remedy for locked mailboxes?
Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 10:38:48 -0800
23. Re: Quick remedy for locked mailboxes?
Ricky Crow <rickyc at thenew.gamesbbs dot com>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 13:51:55 -0600 (CST)
24. Re: Using quota
Admin Mailing Lists <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 15:05:10 -0500 (EST)
25. Re: Quick remedy for locked mailboxes?
Admin Mailing Lists <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 15:10:23 -0500 (EST)
26. QPopper 3.0.2 Install Problem
Dave Robinson <DRobinson at vtgnet dot com>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 15:24:53 -0500
27. Re: QPopper 3.0.2 Install Problem
Admin Mailing Lists <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 15:58:33 -0500 (EST)
28. RE: QPopper 3.0.2 Install Problem
Dave Robinson <DRobinson at vtgnet dot com>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:09:53 -0500
29. RE: QPopper 3.0.2 Install Problem
Butch Kemper <kemper at tstar dot net>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 17:09:04 -0600
30. Re: QPopper 3.0.2 Install Problem
Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 18:44:36 -0500
31. How to get qpopper working after compile
Jason <arnjuka at optonline dot net>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 20:01:44 -0800
32. (no subject)
Jason <arnjuka at optonline dot net>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 21:33:27 -0800
33. Qpopper 3.1.2 on RH6.2
"Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 18:51:03 -0800
34. Re: Qpopper 3.1.2 on RH6.2
Jason <arnjuka at optonline dot net>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 22:09:32 -0800
35. Re: How to get qpopper working after compile
"Jeremy C. Reed" <reed at wcug.wwu dot edu>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 19:08:32 -0800 (PST)
36. Re: Qpopper 3.1.2 on RH6.2
"Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 19:19:46 -0800
37. Re: How to get qpopper working after compile
Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 20:54:46 -0800
38. Re: QPopper 3.0.2 Install Problem
Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 20:52:32 -0800
39. Re: Qpopper 3.1.2 on RH6.2
Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 20:57:17 -0800
40. Re: Qpopper 3.1.2 on RH6.2
Jason <arnjuka at optonline dot net>
Fri, 22 Dec 2000 00:37:35 -0800
41. Re: Qpopper 3.1.2 on RH6.2
Jason <arnjuka at optonline dot net>
Fri, 22 Dec 2000 00:55:32 -0800
42. Re: Qpopper 3.1.2 on RH6.2
"Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 22:05:43 -0800
43. Re: Qpopper 3.1.2 on RH6.2
"Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 22:30:47 -0800
44. Re: Qpopper 3.1.2 on RH6.2
Ricky Crow <rickyc at thenew.gamesbbs dot com>
Fri, 22 Dec 2000 00:56:31 -0600 (CST)
45. Re: Qpopper 3.1.2 on RH6.2
Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 22:37:55 -0800
46. RE: QPopper 3.0.2 Install Problem
Dave Robinson <DRobinson at vtgnet dot com>
Fri, 22 Dec 2000 07:41:11 -0500
47. RE: QPopper 3.0.2 Install Problem
Dave Robinson <DRobinson at vtgnet dot com>
Fri, 22 Dec 2000 07:56:35 -0500
48. RE: QPopper 3.0.2 Install Problem
Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Sat, 23 Dec 2000 02:15:18 +1300 (NZDT)
49. Qpopper died in standalone mode
Rodrigo Luiz Anami <rodrigoa at bestway.com dot br>
Fri, 22 Dec 2000 12:14:51 -0200
50. Re: Qpopper died in standalone mode
Jack Sasportas <jack at innovativeinternet dot com>
Fri, 22 Dec 2000 09:36:58 -0500
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 11:10:28 -0800
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Serious problem....
I'd suggest starting Qpopper with strace() or truss(), then check it
when it hangs and see what happened.
You could also enable debug tracing in Qpopper, but it sounds like a
system problem, not a Qpopper problem (since it happens to inetd).
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 20:45:24 +0100 (CET)
From: Edwin <edwin at introweb dot nl>
Subject: Re: Using quota
I agree. The not allow to send mail option is very appealing.
That's probably the only directly effective measure that won't have side
effects like 'my very important message of one month ago has been deleted
and now I've lost thousands of dollars because you guys decided to delete
my mail !'
On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Theresa M Peter wrote:
> One thing that we have discovered is no matter how many times we email
> individuals to inform them that they are using 80% of their soft quota or
> are over quota, they don't fix it. In our email message we are very
> explicit on how to resolve this issue. I believe we are going to be moving
> to not allow those individuals who are over quota to send mail. One other
> thing we are contemplating is forcing Qpopper to dump all mail that is
> older than 3 months when people check their mail.
>
> One thing that I have noticed with UNIX quotas, is that they often get out
> of synch with how much disk space is actually being used by the user. What
> we have done is resynch the file systems quota table weekly at the same
> time we check individual's quota and mail them their warning message. We
> also have tweaked the error messages in Popper so that they are supposed to
> call our helpdesk when they are over quota, while this has helped slightly,
> I still have over 2000 users who are overquota.
>
>
> At 05:08 AM 12/21/00 +1300, Alan Brown wrote:
> >On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Edwin Ringersma wrote:
> >
> > > After suggestion of someone on this list (thanks!)
> > > I've put soft limits to the limit we had on the mail.
> > > The hard limit is over twice that size.
> > > Looks fine. qpopper is able to put the mail back in the spooldir.
> > > I'm now waiting to see what happens if someone is over their grace
> > > period. (or maybe somebody on this list knows?)
> >
> >Once the grace period expires, the problems will resume. I advise
> >setting it to a short period and making sure that the quota daemon is
> >set up to mail people who go overquota.
> >
> >AB
>
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 11:06:33 -0800
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Obviously I have an error!
At 12:10 PM +0000 12/20/00, James wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> I should start this (my first post) with a big howdy doo dee to everyone.
>
> I have just installed a new machine to act a as mailsever,
> replacing one that continually tripped itself over. I had qpopper
> 3.0.2 running on that one fine. On the new box, I can't get qpopper
> to create the .pop file correctly. The exact error is:
>
> There has been an error transferring your mail. I said: PASS
> <shhhh! Don't tell anyone> and then the POP server
> (user at domain dot net) said: ERR [SYS/TEMP] Failed to create
> /var/spool/mail/.user.pop with uid 3965, gid 12. Change permissions.
The FAQ at <http://www.eudora.com/qpopper/faq.html#permissions>
explains how to correctly set the permissions.
>
> Now the weird part is that on the old server some of the e-mail
> account had a group id of '2000' and some were group 'root' both of
> them worked regardless. This time instead of having group of '2000'
> they have got 'unknown_' instead. The stranger part is that half of
> the e-mail accounts work and half of them don't. For example user1
> and user2 both have a group id of 'unknown_' and user1 can check
> his mail successfully but user2 gets the error message generated
> above.
I'm unclear if you are talking about the group membership of the user
ID or the group ownership of the spool file. The group membership of
the user ID should not affect Qpopper, because Qpopper, when it
assumes the user's identify and sets it UID to that of the user, sets
its group ID to the group owner of the spool directory, which should
be 'mail'. My guess is that group 12 is does not have proper access
to the spools on your system. Is this 'mail'?
>
> I am completely stumped here.....has anyone seen anything like this before?
>
> Any help is greatly appreciated....
>
> James.
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 12:26:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Sergiy Zhuk <serge at yahoo-inc dot com>
Subject: Re: Using quota
hi
On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Edwin wrote:
> I agree. The not allow to send mail option is very appealing.
yeah, right, then you'll have the same thing as described below, just change
it to "an important customer sent me a 1Mb attachment with the super-duper
agreement and it bounced, so we've lost $1 bln "...
;)
> effects like 'my very important message of one month ago has been deleted
> and now I've lost thousands of dollars because you guys decided to delete
> my mail !'
--
rgds,
serge
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 17:07:04 -0500
From: Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
Subject: Re: Bind compile under gcc?
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 09:51:58AM -0600, Ron Calzone wrote:
> I need to compile Bind with gcc running Solaris 2.5.1 - has
> anyone done this successfully?
>
> The docs for the latest beta say that gcc is not supported and it
> crashed when I tried it.
>
> - Ron
It works just fine for me.
Why ask this in the Qpopper mailing list, rather than the BIND mailing
list?
OB qpopper: it compiled fine too.
--
Joe Yao jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov - Joseph S. D. Yao
COSPO/OSIS Computer Support EMT-B
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Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 17:12:38 -0500
From: Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
Subject: Re: Bind compile under gcc?
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 11:34:20AM -0500, Admin Mailing Lists wrote:
>
> wrong mailing list, try isp-dns at isp-dns dot com
Also wrong mailing list unless he is an ISP. And possibly even then.
bind-users at isc dot org
<URL: http://www.isc.org/services/public/lists/bind-lists.html>
[this URL appears to change from time to time on www.isc.org]
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Joe Yao jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov - Joseph S. D. Yao
COSPO/OSIS Computer Support EMT-B
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Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 18:01:02 -0500
From: Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
Subject: Re: Serious problem....
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 11:10:28AM -0800, Randall Gellens wrote:
> I'd suggest starting Qpopper with strace() or truss(), then check it
> when it hangs and see what happened.
>
> You could also enable debug tracing in Qpopper, but it sounds like a
> system problem, not a Qpopper problem (since it happens to inetd).
The inetd problem might be the usual problem with 'inetd' when it
starts to get too many connects - it disables that port for a while.
This can be adjusted, but the means of adjusting it differs depending
on the system. Under Solaris, this is done with the "-r" flag:
-r 10000
Under Linux, this is done per service by appending the number to the
"nowait" field:
nowait.10000
But if you get the same problem when running as a daemon, this is not
that problem.
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Joe Yao jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov - Joseph S. D. Yao
COSPO/OSIS Computer Support EMT-B
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Subject: need help
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 07:45:30 -0500
From: Karl Hoppel <hoppel at opt.nrl.navy dot mil>
I have a strange problem. Qpopper suddently stopped
accepting a particular user's login. I have reset the password
and even deleted and recreated the account information
(but not the home directory) and qpopper will not work for this
one account. I have many other poeople with working pop accounts
and there seems to be nothing particular about this one. Telnet and ftp work
fine for the account, and I can access the mail okay with the standard
"mail" program.
I am using Redhat 6.1 and qpopper 3.1b6
Here is what I get from fetchmail (although the problem
first occured when the person was using outlook)
fetchmail: 5.1.0 querying xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (protocol POP3) at Thu, 21 Dec 2000 07:29:23 -0500 (EST)
fetchmail: POP3< +OK ready <1127.977403592 at xxx.xxx.xxx dot xxx>
fetchmail: POP3> USER john
fetchmail: POP3< +OK Password required for john.
fetchmail: POP3> PASS *
fetchmail: POP3< -ERR [SYS/PERM] Unable to process From lines (envelopes), change recognition modes or check for corrupted mail drop.
fetchmail: [SYS/PERM] Unable to process From lines (envelopes), change recognition modes or check for corrupted mail drop.
fetchmail: Authorization failure on john at xxx.xxx.xxx dot xxx
fetchmail: POP3> QUIT
fetchmail: POP3< +OK Pop server at xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx signing off.
fetchmail: authorization error while fetching from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
fetchmail: Query status=3
fetchmail: normal termination, status 3
Any suggestions?
Karl
From: Gerhard Gonter <gonter at maestria.wu-wien.ac dot at>
Subject: Re: need help
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 14:07:36 +0100 (MEZ)
According to Karl Hoppel:
> I have a strange problem. Qpopper suddently stopped
> accepting a particular user's login.
> [... various attempts to fix the problem ...]
> fetchmail: POP3< -ERR [SYS/PERM] Unable to process From lines (envelopes), change recognition modes or check for corrupted mail drop.
> fetchmail: [SYS/PERM] Unable to process From lines (envelopes), change recognition modes or check for corrupted mail drop.
> [...]
Check for the file .<username>.pop in the mailspool directory. This
error indicatates, that there is something in a line which should be a
mbox separator line, that is a line beginning with the string "From "
and so on. Either delete .<username>.pop (only if the original
<username> spool file is fine) or edit the file using your favorite
text editor.
+gg
--
Gerhard.Gonter at wu-wien.ac.at Fax: +43/1/31336/702 g dot gonter at ieee dot org
Zentrum fuer Informatikdienste, Wirtschaftsuniversitaet Wien, Austria
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 13:12:50 +0000
From: peter.allen at moon-light.co dot uk
Subject: Re: need help
Why not totally recreate the user _including_ his home directory and
mailbox and my guess is that it will then work (like everyone else).
Peter
At 07:45 21/12/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>I have a strange problem. Qpopper suddently stopped
>accepting a particular user's login. I have reset the password
>and even deleted and recreated the account information
>(but not the home directory) and qpopper will not work for this
>one account. I have many other poeople with working pop accounts
>and there seems to be nothing particular about this one. Telnet and ftp work
>fine for the account, and I can access the mail okay with the standard
>"mail" program.
>
>I am using Redhat 6.1 and qpopper 3.1b6
>
>Here is what I get from fetchmail (although the problem
>first occured when the person was using outlook)
>
>fetchmail: 5.1.0 querying xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (protocol POP3) at Thu, 21 Dec
>2000 07:29:23 -0500 (EST)
>fetchmail: POP3< +OK ready <1127.977403592 at xxx.xxx.xxx dot xxx>
>fetchmail: POP3> USER john
>fetchmail: POP3< +OK Password required for john.
>fetchmail: POP3> PASS *
>fetchmail: POP3< -ERR [SYS/PERM] Unable to process From lines (envelopes),
>change recognition modes or check for corrupted mail drop.
>fetchmail: [SYS/PERM] Unable to process From lines (envelopes), change
>recognition modes or check for corrupted mail drop.
>fetchmail: Authorization failure on john at xxx.xxx.xxx dot xxx
>fetchmail: POP3> QUIT
>fetchmail: POP3< +OK Pop server at xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx signing off.
>fetchmail: authorization error while fetching from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>fetchmail: Query status=3
>fetchmail: normal termination, status 3
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Karl
>
>
>
Subject: Re: need help - THANKS
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 08:32:58 -0500
From: Karl Hoppel <hoppel at opt.nrl.navy dot mil>
Thanks to all who responded.
gonter at maestria.wu-wien.ac dot at said:
> Check for the file .<username>.pop in the mailspool directory. This
> error indicatates, that there is something in a line which should be a
> mbox separator line, that is a line beginning with the string "From "
> and so on. Either delete .<username>.pop (only if the original
> <username> spool file is fine) or edit the file using your favorite
> text editor.
I have never seen files with the names like
.<username>.pop in the mailspool directory.
The standard mail file /var/spool/mail/<username> was readable
by the mail program. I also tried renaming the file to
/var/spool/mail/<username>.old and then sending new mail,
but this did not work either. Finally, after reading your responses,
I was convinced that it is a mail file problem. Then I tried
renaming the file again, but this time to
/var/spool/mail/old.<username>
When I tried fetchmail again, a couple of weeks worth of old email
suddently showed up in the mail spool file. I don't have a clue
about why this worked, but everything is back to normal. I will just have to
extract the missing email from the old.<username> file that I created.
Cheers,
Karl
From: "InvictaNet Customer Support" <support at invictanet.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: need help
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 13:43:37 -0000
Have you tried telnet to your pop server (telnet localhost 110), then USER
john, PASS *****
If you have a password problem qpopper will tell you then.
However, this bit:
fetchmail: POP3< -ERR [SYS/PERM] Unable to process From lines (envelopes),
change recognition modes or check for corrupted mail drop.
fetchmail: [SYS/PERM] Unable to process From lines (envelopes), change
recognition modes or check for corrupted mail drop.
tells me that the answer is a corrupted mailbox - probably an excess of
lines beginning with "From:" and qpopper doesn't know which is the correct
one. Have you tried deleting/moving the mailbox and sending a fresh message
to see if that can be collected?
Martyn Routley
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-----Original Message-----
From: Karl Hoppel [mailto:hoppel at opt.nrl.navy dot mil]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 12:46 PM
To: Subscribers of Qpopper
Subject: need help
I have a strange problem. Qpopper suddently stopped
accepting a particular user's login. I have reset the password
and even deleted and recreated the account information
(but not the home directory) and qpopper will not work for this
one account. I have many other poeople with working pop accounts
and there seems to be nothing particular about this one. Telnet and ftp
work
fine for the account, and I can access the mail okay with the standard
"mail" program.
I am using Redhat 6.1 and qpopper 3.1b6
Here is what I get from fetchmail (although the problem
first occured when the person was using outlook)
fetchmail: 5.1.0 querying xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (protocol POP3) at Thu, 21 Dec
2000 07:29:23 -0500 (EST)
fetchmail: POP3< +OK ready <1127.977403592 at xxx.xxx.xxx dot xxx>
fetchmail: POP3> USER john
fetchmail: POP3< +OK Password required for john.
fetchmail: POP3> PASS *
fetchmail: POP3< -ERR [SYS/PERM] Unable to process From lines (envelopes),
change recognition modes or check for corrupted mail drop.
fetchmail: [SYS/PERM] Unable to process From lines (envelopes), change
recognition modes or check for corrupted mail drop.
fetchmail: Authorization failure on john at xxx.xxx.xxx dot xxx
fetchmail: POP3> QUIT
fetchmail: POP3< +OK Pop server at xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx signing off.
fetchmail: authorization error while fetching from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
fetchmail: Query status=3
fetchmail: normal termination, status 3
Any suggestions?
Karl
From: "Brian Curtis" <lists at pomfret dot net>
Subject: Quick remedy for locked mailboxes?
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 09:04:36 -0500
A response to the last thread "need help" reminded me of a question I've
been meaning to ask...
Is there a quick remedy to fixing a users mailbox when their connection is
terminated abnormally resulting in a lingering .username.pop lockfile?
Right now I just tell them to wait a short while, and the mailbox will
unlock itself. However, I'm waiting for the user that says "I need my mail
immediately!".
I've tried copying the .pop file back to the normal mail spool file and
deleting the lockfile, but that produced some strange results.
More specifically, I needed to check email from a remote location over a
dialup to find that someone sent an unwanted 5mb attachment. I terminated
the remote connection, copied the .pop lockfile back to the spool file,
deleted the lockfile, used an mua server-side to delete the email w/
attachment, then used my remote mua to check mail again just to find it was
downloading the same email w/ attachment that I thought I had removed.
Checking the mail spool directory again, I saw that the .pop lockfile was
recreated with the original filesize of the mail spool before removing the
attachment, even though the current spool file was considerably smaller in
size.
Did I miss a step, did I go about this the wrong way, or should I have never
even tried this in the first place?
Running Qpopper 3.1.2 via inetd on a RHL 6.1 box.
Thanks,
--
Brian Curtis
From: "Armelle Nedelec" <anedelec at inco.com dot lb>
Subject: Re: need help
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 15:13:26 +0200
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
------=_NextPart_000_00D8_01C06B60.91528270
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
check the mailbox of this user. There is certainly a corrupted mail in =
it.
It happened to me to.
It's certainly the first one.
Armelle
----- Original Message -----
From: Karl Hoppel
To: Subscribers of Qpopper
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 2:45 PM
Subject: need help
I have a strange problem. Qpopper suddently stopped
accepting a particular user's login. I have reset the password
and even deleted and recreated the account information
(but not the home directory) and qpopper will not work for this
one account. I have many other poeople with working pop accounts
and there seems to be nothing particular about this one. Telnet and =
ftp work
fine for the account, and I can access the mail okay with the standard
"mail" program.
I am using Redhat 6.1 and qpopper 3.1b6
Here is what I get from fetchmail (although the problem
first occured when the person was using outlook)
fetchmail: 5.1.0 querying xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (protocol POP3) at Thu, 21 =
Dec 2000 07:29:23 -0500 (EST)
fetchmail: POP3< +OK ready <1127.977403592 at xxx.xxx.xxx dot xxx>
fetchmail: POP3> USER john
fetchmail: POP3< +OK Password required for john.
fetchmail: POP3> PASS *
fetchmail: POP3< -ERR [SYS/PERM] Unable to process From lines =
(envelopes), change recognition modes or check for corrupted mail drop.
fetchmail: [SYS/PERM] Unable to process From lines (envelopes), change =
recognition modes or check for corrupted mail drop.
fetchmail: Authorization failure on john at xxx.xxx.xxx dot xxx
fetchmail: POP3> QUIT
fetchmail: POP3< +OK Pop server at xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx signing off.
fetchmail: authorization error while fetching from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
fetchmail: Query status=3
fetchmail: normal termination, status 3
Any suggestions?
Karl
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<DIV><FONT color=#000080 face="Times New Roman">check the mailbox of =
this user.
There is certainly a corrupted mail in it.</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>
<A href="mailto:hoppel at opt.nrl dot navy dot mil" =
title=hoppel at opt.nrl.navy dot mil>Karl
Hoppel</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:qpopper at lists dot pensive dot org"
title=qpopper at lists.pensive dot org>Subscribers of Qpopper</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 21, =
2000 2:45
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> need help</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I have a strange problem. Qpopper suddently
stopped<BR>accepting a particular user's login. I have reset the =
password<BR>and even deleted and recreated the account information =
<BR>(but
not the home directory) and qpopper will not work for this<BR>one
account. I have many other poeople with working pop =
accounts<BR>and
there seems to be nothing particular about this one. Telnet and =
ftp
work<BR>fine for the account, and I can access the mail okay with the
standard<BR>"mail" program.<BR><BR>I am using Redhat 6.1 and qpopper
3.1b6<BR><BR>Here is what I get from fetchmail (although the =
problem<BR>first
occured when the person was using outlook)<BR><BR>fetchmail: 5.1.0 =
querying
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (protocol POP3) at Thu, 21 Dec 2000 07:29:23 -0500
(EST)<BR>fetchmail: POP3< +OK ready <<A
=
href="mailto:1127.977403592@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx">1127.977403592@xxx.xxx dot xxx=
.xxx</A>><BR>fetchmail:
POP3> USER john<BR>fetchmail: POP3< +OK Password required for
john.<BR>fetchmail: POP3> PASS *<BR>fetchmail: POP3< -ERR =
[SYS/PERM]
Unable to process From lines (envelopes), change recognition modes or =
check
for corrupted mail drop.<BR>fetchmail: [SYS/PERM] Unable to process =
From lines
(envelopes), change recognition modes or check for corrupted mail
drop.<BR>fetchmail: Authorization failure on <A
=
href="mailto:john at xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx">john@xxx.xxx dot xxx dot xxx</A><BR>fetchmai=
l:
POP3> QUIT<BR>fetchmail: POP3< +OK Pop server at xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx =
signing
off.<BR>fetchmail: authorization error while fetching from
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx<BR>fetchmail: Query status=3<BR>fetchmail: normal =
termination,
status 3<BR><BR>Any
suggestions?<BR><BR>Karl<BR><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 22:32:45 +0900
From: Peter Evans <peter at gol dot com>
Subject: Re: need help
Karl Hoppel (hoppel at opt.nrl.navy dot mil) wrote:
> fetchmail: POP3< -ERR [SYS/PERM] Unable to process From lines (envelopes), change recognition modes or check for corrupted mail drop.
> fetchmail: [SYS/PERM] Unable to process From lines (envelopes), change recognition modes or check for corrupted mail drop.
Corrupted spool.
Check the first lines for a
From <something> <date>
type of thing.
(easiest just to delete it, but lusers whine then)
--
Remember The 5 K's. The Justified Agents of Munya-munya-muuuu ...
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 08:35:18 -0600
From: mike miller <mikem at ndtel dot com>
Subject: Re: Using quota
Why would you be silly enough to leave that important of a messages on
somebody else's server?
Edwin wrote:
>
> I agree. The not allow to send mail option is very appealing.
> That's probably the only directly effective measure that won't have side
> effects like 'my very important message of one month ago has been deleted
> and now I've lost thousands of dollars because you guys decided to delete
> my mail !'
>
> On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Theresa M Peter wrote:
>
> > One thing that we have discovered is no matter how many times we email
> > individuals to inform them that they are using 80% of their soft quota or
> > are over quota, they don't fix it. In our email message we are very
> > explicit on how to resolve this issue. I believe we are going to be moving
> > to not allow those individuals who are over quota to send mail. One other
> > thing we are contemplating is forcing Qpopper to dump all mail that is
> > older than 3 months when people check their mail.
> >
> > One thing that I have noticed with UNIX quotas, is that they often get out
> > of synch with how much disk space is actually being used by the user. What
> > we have done is resynch the file systems quota table weekly at the same
> > time we check individual's quota and mail them their warning message. We
> > also have tweaked the error messages in Popper so that they are supposed to
> > call our helpdesk when they are over quota, while this has helped slightly,
> > I still have over 2000 users who are overquota.
> >
> >
> > At 05:08 AM 12/21/00 +1300, Alan Brown wrote:
> > >On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Edwin Ringersma wrote:
> > >
> > > > After suggestion of someone on this list (thanks!)
> > > > I've put soft limits to the limit we had on the mail.
> > > > The hard limit is over twice that size.
> > > > Looks fine. qpopper is able to put the mail back in the spooldir.
> > > > I'm now waiting to see what happens if someone is over their grace
> > > > period. (or maybe somebody on this list knows?)
> > >
> > >Once the grace period expires, the problems will resume. I advise
> > >setting it to a short period and making sure that the quota daemon is
> > >set up to mail people who go overquota.
> > >
> > >AB
> >
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 08:43:08 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph W. Breu" <breu at cfu dot net>
Subject: Re: Quick remedy for locked mailboxes?
> Is there a quick remedy to fixing a users mailbox when their connection is
> terminated abnormally resulting in a lingering .username.pop lockfile?
It seems that your pop3 daemon is set to create a copy of the mail spool,
work on that, and then merge it back with the original mail spool when it
is done.
To fix your problem, just remove the lock file, don't copy it back over
the original spool.
--
Thanks,
-Joseph W. Breu
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph W. Breu Systems Administrator / Cedar Falls Utilities
phone: (319) 268-5228 Utility Parkway, Cedar Falls, Iowa 50613
---- Al Gore: "...I took the initiative in creating the Internet." ----
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 08:18:54 -0600
From: Darin Dugan <dddugan at iastate dot edu>
Subject: Re: need help
This is in the FAQ.
http://www.eudora.com/qpopper/faq.html#from.lines
Cheers.
At 06:45 AM 12/21/2000, Karl Hoppel wrote:
>I have a strange problem. Qpopper suddently stopped
>accepting a particular user's login. I have reset the password
>and even deleted and recreated the account information
>(but not the home directory) and qpopper will not work for this
>one account. I have many other poeople with working pop accounts
>and there seems to be nothing particular about this one. Telnet and ftp work
>fine for the account, and I can access the mail okay with the standard
>"mail" program.
>
>I am using Redhat 6.1 and qpopper 3.1b6
>
>Here is what I get from fetchmail (although the problem
>first occured when the person was using outlook)
>
>fetchmail: 5.1.0 querying xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (protocol POP3) at Thu, 21 Dec
>2000 07:29:23 -0500 (EST)
>fetchmail: POP3< +OK ready <1127.977403592 at xxx.xxx.xxx dot xxx>
>fetchmail: POP3> USER john
>fetchmail: POP3< +OK Password required for john.
>fetchmail: POP3> PASS *
>fetchmail: POP3< -ERR [SYS/PERM] Unable to process From lines (envelopes),
>change recognition modes or check for corrupted mail drop.
>fetchmail: [SYS/PERM] Unable to process From lines (envelopes), change
>recognition modes or check for corrupted mail drop.
>fetchmail: Authorization failure on john at xxx.xxx.xxx dot xxx
>fetchmail: POP3> QUIT
>fetchmail: POP3< +OK Pop server at xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx signing off.
>fetchmail: authorization error while fetching from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>fetchmail: Query status=3
>fetchmail: normal termination, status 3
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Karl
Darin Dugan
System Administrator
Extension Information Technology
Iowa State University
dddugan at iastate dot edu
http://www.extension.iastate.edu
From: "Edwin Ringersma" <edwin at introweb dot nl>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 17:06:29 +0100
Subject: Re: Using quota
No sensible person would. But we're talking about customers. They
seem to have a special talent for doing things you wouldn't expect
from any ordinary person. Expect the worst, never overestimate
your customers.
Never had a customer calling that has deleted his mail from the
server asking if you could please be so kind to restore it ?
'Sorry, if you've deleted the mail from our server, it's gone, we
cannot restore it' (or at least sure don't want to)
Any sensible person would assume deleted mail to be deleted,
customers generally haven't got a lot of common sense.
(sorry to be so negative but I guess you get the idea)
> Why would you be silly enough to leave that important of a messages on
> somebody else's server?
>
> Edwin wrote:
> >
> > I agree. The not allow to send mail option is very appealing.
> > That's probably the only directly effective measure that won't have side
> > effects like 'my very important message of one month ago has been deleted
> > and now I've lost thousands of dollars because you guys decided to delete
> > my mail !'
> >
> > On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Theresa M Peter wrote:
> >
> > > One thing that we have discovered is no matter how many times we email
> > > individuals to inform them that they are using 80% of their soft quota or
> > > are over quota, they don't fix it. In our email message we are very
> > > explicit on how to resolve this issue. I believe we are going to be moving
> > > to not allow those individuals who are over quota to send mail. One other
> > > thing we are contemplating is forcing Qpopper to dump all mail that is
> > > older than 3 months when people check their mail.
> > >
> > > One thing that I have noticed with UNIX quotas, is that they often get out
> > > of synch with how much disk space is actually being used by the user. What
> > > we have done is resynch the file systems quota table weekly at the same
> > > time we check individual's quota and mail them their warning message. We
> > > also have tweaked the error messages in Popper so that they are supposed to
> > > call our helpdesk when they are over quota, while this has helped slightly,
> > > I still have over 2000 users who are overquota.
> > >
> > >
> > > At 05:08 AM 12/21/00 +1300, Alan Brown wrote:
> > > >On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Edwin Ringersma wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > After suggestion of someone on this list (thanks!)
> > > > > I've put soft limits to the limit we had on the mail.
> > > > > The hard limit is over twice that size.
> > > > > Looks fine. qpopper is able to put the mail back in the spooldir.
> > > > > I'm now waiting to see what happens if someone is over their grace
> > > > > period. (or maybe somebody on this list knows?)
> > > >
> > > >Once the grace period expires, the problems will resume. I advise
> > > >setting it to a short period and making sure that the quota daemon is
> > > >set up to mail people who go overquota.
> > > >
> > > >AB
> > >
>
From: "Brian Curtis" <lists at pomfret dot net>
Subject: Re: Quick remedy for locked mailboxes?
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 10:41:52 -0500
> > Is there a quick remedy to fixing a users mailbox when their connection
is
> > terminated abnormally resulting in a lingering .username.pop lockfile?
>
> It seems that your pop3 daemon is set to create a copy of the mail spool,
> work on that, and then merge it back with the original mail spool when it
> is done.
Creates a copy (.pop); empties original in the process (0 bytes); performs
necessary work on the .pop version; then copies resulting data back to
original spool file and deletes the lockfile.
> To fix your problem, just remove the lock file, don't copy it back over
> the original spool.
As mentioned above, the POP process clears the original mail spool.
Therefore deleting the .pop copy will result in deleting all that user's
email, no?
--
Brian Curtis
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 11:34:53 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph W. Breu" <breu at cfu dot net>
Subject: Re: Quick remedy for locked mailboxes?
> As mentioned above, the POP process clears the original mail spool.
> Therefore deleting the .pop copy will result in deleting all that user's
> email, no?
In my experiance, it didn't zero out the original spool file.
I have since disabled this "feature" because of the overhead anyway.
--
Thanks,
-Joseph W. Breu
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph W. Breu Systems Administrator / Cedar Falls Utilities
phone: (319) 268-5228 Utility Parkway, Cedar Falls, Iowa 50613
---- Al Gore: "...I took the initiative in creating the Internet." ----
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 10:38:48 -0800
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Quick remedy for locked mailboxes?
At 9:04 AM -0500 12/21/00, Brian Curtis wrote:
> A response to the last thread "need help" reminded me of a question I've
> been meaning to ask...
>
> Is there a quick remedy to fixing a users mailbox when their connection is
> terminated abnormally resulting in a lingering .username.pop lockfile?
>
> Right now I just tell them to wait a short while, and the mailbox will
> unlock itself. However, I'm waiting for the user that says "I need my mail
> immediately!".
As soon as Qpopper is notified that the connection is broken it will
clean up and terminate. If Qpopper doesn't get an EOF error on read
or a SIGPIPE signal, it will timeout and then cleanup and terminate.
You can always adjust the timeout value if you want.
>
> I've tried copying the .pop file back to the normal mail spool file and
> deleting the lockfile, but that produced some strange results.
Was the popper process still active for the user? If so, you you
could create quite a mess. And if mail was also being delivered for
the user, it would be even worse.
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 13:51:55 -0600 (CST)
From: Ricky Crow <rickyc at thenew.gamesbbs dot com>
Subject: Re: Quick remedy for locked mailboxes?
I've found that you not only have to kill off the linkering process that
is running (ps -auxww | grep pop then search for the PID, and kill -9
that process), then what I do is just do a "cat .username.pop > username"
in the /var/spool/mail directory... Then I just rm the .username.pop
file. Hope that helps....
Ricky
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Brian Curtis wrote:
> A response to the last thread "need help" reminded me of a question I've
> been meaning to ask...
>
> Is there a quick remedy to fixing a users mailbox when their connection is
> terminated abnormally resulting in a lingering .username.pop lockfile?
>
> Right now I just tell them to wait a short while, and the mailbox will
> unlock itself. However, I'm waiting for the user that says "I need my mail
> immediately!".
>
> I've tried copying the .pop file back to the normal mail spool file and
> deleting the lockfile, but that produced some strange results.
>
> More specifically, I needed to check email from a remote location over a
> dialup to find that someone sent an unwanted 5mb attachment. I terminated
> the remote connection, copied the .pop lockfile back to the spool file,
> deleted the lockfile, used an mua server-side to delete the email w/
> attachment, then used my remote mua to check mail again just to find it was
> downloading the same email w/ attachment that I thought I had removed.
>
> Checking the mail spool directory again, I saw that the .pop lockfile was
> recreated with the original filesize of the mail spool before removing the
> attachment, even though the current spool file was considerably smaller in
> size.
>
> Did I miss a step, did I go about this the wrong way, or should I have never
> even tried this in the first place?
>
> Running Qpopper 3.1.2 via inetd on a RHL 6.1 box.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Brian Curtis
>
>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 15:05:10 -0500 (EST)
From: Admin Mailing Lists <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
Subject: Re: Using quota
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Edwin Ringersma wrote:
> No sensible person would. But we're talking about customers. They
> seem to have a special talent for doing things you wouldn't expect
> from any ordinary person. Expect the worst, never overestimate
> your customers.
> Never had a customer calling that has deleted his mail from the
> server asking if you could please be so kind to restore it ?
> 'Sorry, if you've deleted the mail from our server, it's gone, we
> cannot restore it' (or at least sure don't want to)
> Any sensible person would assume deleted mail to be deleted,
> customers generally haven't got a lot of common sense.
> (sorry to be so negative but I guess you get the idea)
it's reality, that's all. Don't programs like Netscape Messenger actually
put your mail to a Trash folder first before permanently deleting it?
If you then STILL delete it, you're too stupid to live ;)
People are more relaxed these days about the word 'delete' because of the
introduction of the Recycle bin. They figure, now they can be stupid more
often and not have to worry too much. Efficiency tends to bring about
laziness.
We could probably say the same thing about the spread of viruses..It's
directly porportional to the # of stupid people out there. And I dont see
that # decreasing anytime soon.
Just my opinion.
-Tony
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Anthony J. Biacco Network Administrator/Engineer
thelittleprince at asteroid-b612 dot org Intergrafix Internet Services
"Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today"
http://www.asteroid-b612.org http://www.intergrafix.net
.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
> > Why would you be silly enough to leave that important of a messages on
> > somebody else's server?
> >
> > Edwin wrote:
> > >
> > > I agree. The not allow to send mail option is very appealing.
> > > That's probably the only directly effective measure that won't have side
> > > effects like 'my very important message of one month ago has been deleted
> > > and now I've lost thousands of dollars because you guys decided to delete
> > > my mail !'
> > >
> > > On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Theresa M Peter wrote:
> > >
> > > > One thing that we have discovered is no matter how many times we email
> > > > individuals to inform them that they are using 80% of their soft quota or
> > > > are over quota, they don't fix it. In our email message we are very
> > > > explicit on how to resolve this issue. I believe we are going to be moving
> > > > to not allow those individuals who are over quota to send mail. One other
> > > > thing we are contemplating is forcing Qpopper to dump all mail that is
> > > > older than 3 months when people check their mail.
> > > >
> > > > One thing that I have noticed with UNIX quotas, is that they often get out
> > > > of synch with how much disk space is actually being used by the user. What
> > > > we have done is resynch the file systems quota table weekly at the same
> > > > time we check individual's quota and mail them their warning message. We
> > > > also have tweaked the error messages in Popper so that they are supposed to
> > > > call our helpdesk when they are over quota, while this has helped slightly,
> > > > I still have over 2000 users who are overquota.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 05:08 AM 12/21/00 +1300, Alan Brown wrote:
> > > > >On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Edwin Ringersma wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > After suggestion of someone on this list (thanks!)
> > > > > > I've put soft limits to the limit we had on the mail.
> > > > > > The hard limit is over twice that size.
> > > > > > Looks fine. qpopper is able to put the mail back in the spooldir.
> > > > > > I'm now waiting to see what happens if someone is over their grace
> > > > > > period. (or maybe somebody on this list knows?)
> > > > >
> > > > >Once the grace period expires, the problems will resume. I advise
> > > > >setting it to a short period and making sure that the quota daemon is
> > > > >set up to mail people who go overquota.
> > > > >
> > > > >AB
> > > >
> >
>
>
>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 15:10:23 -0500 (EST)
From: Admin Mailing Lists <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
Subject: Re: Quick remedy for locked mailboxes?
ick, you should never -9 a process unless it's absolutely necessary.
why not -HUP or -PIPE the process and let qpopper handle moving the
tempdrop back to the spool??
-Tony
.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
Anthony J. Biacco Network Administrator/Engineer
thelittleprince at asteroid-b612 dot org Intergrafix Internet Services
"Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today"
http://www.asteroid-b612.org http://www.intergrafix.net
.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Ricky Crow wrote:
> I've found that you not only have to kill off the linkering process that
> is running (ps -auxww | grep pop then search for the PID, and kill -9
> that process), then what I do is just do a "cat .username.pop > username"
> in the /var/spool/mail directory... Then I just rm the .username.pop
> file. Hope that helps....
>
> Ricky
>
>
> On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Brian Curtis wrote:
>
> > A response to the last thread "need help" reminded me of a question I've
> > been meaning to ask...
> >
> > Is there a quick remedy to fixing a users mailbox when their connection is
> > terminated abnormally resulting in a lingering .username.pop lockfile?
> >
> > Right now I just tell them to wait a short while, and the mailbox will
> > unlock itself. However, I'm waiting for the user that says "I need my mail
> > immediately!".
> >
> > I've tried copying the .pop file back to the normal mail spool file and
> > deleting the lockfile, but that produced some strange results.
> >
> > More specifically, I needed to check email from a remote location over a
> > dialup to find that someone sent an unwanted 5mb attachment. I terminated
> > the remote connection, copied the .pop lockfile back to the spool file,
> > deleted the lockfile, used an mua server-side to delete the email w/
> > attachment, then used my remote mua to check mail again just to find it was
> > downloading the same email w/ attachment that I thought I had removed.
> >
> > Checking the mail spool directory again, I saw that the .pop lockfile was
> > recreated with the original filesize of the mail spool before removing the
> > attachment, even though the current spool file was considerably smaller in
> > size.
> >
> > Did I miss a step, did I go about this the wrong way, or should I have never
> > even tried this in the first place?
> >
> > Running Qpopper 3.1.2 via inetd on a RHL 6.1 box.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --
> > Brian Curtis
> >
> >
>
>
From: Dave Robinson <DRobinson at vtgnet dot com>
Subject: QPopper 3.0.2 Install Problem
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 15:24:53 -0500
I am having a seriously hard time getting Qpopper to work on our Linux mail
server. Sendmail has been installed on this box and has been running
perfectly for 9 months. I installed Qpopper and have not been able to get it
to run. I followed all of your FAQ's and even consulted our Linux
consultants and no one can figure out what the problem is.
Can you somehow offer me some assitance? The problem - whenever someone logs
in(using Outlook Express) they get a 'Your password was rejected' I have
checked and rechecked the password. I am using standard Linux
authentication, but tried the specialauth flag and still doesn't work.
I enabled tracing and got the follwing output...
Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: Debugging turned on [pop_init.c:240]
Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: (v3.0.2) Unable to get canonical name of
client ###.###.###.###: Unknown host (1) [pop_init.c:401]
Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: (v3.0.2) Servicing request from
"###.###.###.###" at ###.###.###.### [pop_init.c:504]
Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: +OK QPOP (version 3.0.2) at
mail.$$$$$$$.com starting. [popper.c:160]
Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: Qpopper ready for input from (null) at
###.###.###.### [###.###.###.###] [popper.c:188]
Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: Received (16): "USER JohnSmith"
[pop_get_command.c:87]
Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: +OK Password required for JohnSmith.
[pop_user.c:249]
Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: Qpopper ready for input from JohnSmith
at ###.###.###.### [###.###.###.###] [popper.c:188]
Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: Received: "pass xxxxxxxxx"
[pop_get_command.c:81]
Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: User JohnSmith not in passwd file
[pop_pass.c:886]
Dec 21 16:00:29 mail qpopper[1113]: JohnSmith at ###.###.###.###
(###.###.###.###): -ERR [AUTH] Password supplied for "JohnSmith" is
incorrect. [pop_pass.c:888]
Dec 21 16:00:29 mail qpopper[1113]: +OK Pop server at mail.$$$$$$$.com
signing off. [popper.c:242]
Dec 21 16:00:29 mail qpopper[1113]: (v3.0.2) Ending request from "JohnSmith"
at (###.###.###.###) ###.###.###.### [popper.c:253]
I changed certain text in the trace to protect the innocent. I checked my
\etc\passwd file and verified that JohnSmith existed. Does Qpopper use a
different passwd file?
Please Help!!!
Dave Robinson
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 15:58:33 -0500 (EST)
From: Admin Mailing Lists <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
Subject: Re: QPopper 3.0.2 Install Problem
maybe you have JohnSmith capitalized in your password file. all usernames
should be lowercase.
-Tony
.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
Anthony J. Biacco Network Administrator/Engineer
thelittleprince at asteroid-b612 dot org Intergrafix Internet Services
"Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today"
http://www.asteroid-b612.org http://www.intergrafix.net
.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Dave Robinson wrote:
> I am having a seriously hard time getting Qpopper to work on our Linux mail
> server. Sendmail has been installed on this box and has been running
> perfectly for 9 months. I installed Qpopper and have not been able to get it
> to run. I followed all of your FAQ's and even consulted our Linux
> consultants and no one can figure out what the problem is.
>
> Can you somehow offer me some assitance? The problem - whenever someone logs
> in(using Outlook Express) they get a 'Your password was rejected' I have
> checked and rechecked the password. I am using standard Linux
> authentication, but tried the specialauth flag and still doesn't work.
>
> I enabled tracing and got the follwing output...
>
> Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: Debugging turned on [pop_init.c:240]
> Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: (v3.0.2) Unable to get canonical name of
> client ###.###.###.###: Unknown host (1) [pop_init.c:401]
> Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: (v3.0.2) Servicing request from
> "###.###.###.###" at ###.###.###.### [pop_init.c:504]
> Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: +OK QPOP (version 3.0.2) at
> mail.$$$$$$$.com starting. [popper.c:160]
> Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: Qpopper ready for input from (null) at
> ###.###.###.### [###.###.###.###] [popper.c:188]
> Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: Received (16): "USER JohnSmith"
> [pop_get_command.c:87]
> Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: +OK Password required for JohnSmith.
> [pop_user.c:249]
> Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: Qpopper ready for input from JohnSmith
> at ###.###.###.### [###.###.###.###] [popper.c:188]
> Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: Received: "pass xxxxxxxxx"
> [pop_get_command.c:81]
> Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: User JohnSmith not in passwd file
> [pop_pass.c:886]
> Dec 21 16:00:29 mail qpopper[1113]: JohnSmith at ###.###.###.###
> (###.###.###.###): -ERR [AUTH] Password supplied for "JohnSmith" is
> incorrect. [pop_pass.c:888]
> Dec 21 16:00:29 mail qpopper[1113]: +OK Pop server at mail.$$$$$$$.com
> signing off. [popper.c:242]
> Dec 21 16:00:29 mail qpopper[1113]: (v3.0.2) Ending request from "JohnSmith"
> at (###.###.###.###) ###.###.###.### [popper.c:253]
>
> I changed certain text in the trace to protect the innocent. I checked my
> \etc\passwd file and verified that JohnSmith existed. Does Qpopper use a
> different passwd file?
>
>
> Please Help!!!
>
> Dave Robinson
>
>
From: Dave Robinson <DRobinson at vtgnet dot com>
Subject: RE: QPopper 3.0.2 Install Problem
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:09:53 -0500
Hi
the userid is in lowercase...and I am not using shadow passwords - I did try
the --enable-specialauth just for fun and it didn't work...
Dave
maybe you have JohnSmith capitalized in your password file. all usernames
should be lowercase.
-Tony
.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
Anthony J. Biacco Network Administrator/Engineer
thelittleprince at asteroid-b612 dot org Intergrafix Internet Services
"Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today"
http://www.asteroid-b612.org http://www.intergrafix.net
.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Dave Robinson wrote:
> I am having a seriously hard time getting Qpopper to work on our Linux
mail
> server. Sendmail has been installed on this box and has been running
> perfectly for 9 months. I installed Qpopper and have not been able to get
it
> to run. I followed all of your FAQ's and even consulted our Linux
> consultants and no one can figure out what the problem is.
>
> Can you somehow offer me some assitance? The problem - whenever someone
logs
> in(using Outlook Express) they get a 'Your password was rejected' I have
> checked and rechecked the password. I am using standard Linux
> authentication, but tried the specialauth flag and still doesn't work.
>
> I enabled tracing and got the follwing output...
>
> Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: Debugging turned on [pop_init.c:240]
> Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: (v3.0.2) Unable to get canonical name
of
> client ###.###.###.###: Unknown host (1) [pop_init.c:401]
> Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: (v3.0.2) Servicing request from
> "###.###.###.###" at ###.###.###.### [pop_init.c:504]
> Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: +OK QPOP (version 3.0.2) at
> mail.$$$$$$$.com starting. [popper.c:160]
> Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: Qpopper ready for input from (null) at
> ###.###.###.### [###.###.###.###] [popper.c:188]
> Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: Received (16): "USER JohnSmith"
> [pop_get_command.c:87]
> Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: +OK Password required for JohnSmith.
> [pop_user.c:249]
> Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: Qpopper ready for input from JohnSmith
> at ###.###.###.### [###.###.###.###] [popper.c:188]
> Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: Received: "pass xxxxxxxxx"
> [pop_get_command.c:81]
> Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: User JohnSmith not in passwd file
> [pop_pass.c:886]
> Dec 21 16:00:29 mail qpopper[1113]: JohnSmith at ###.###.###.###
> (###.###.###.###): -ERR [AUTH] Password supplied for "JohnSmith" is
> incorrect. [pop_pass.c:888]
> Dec 21 16:00:29 mail qpopper[1113]: +OK Pop server at mail.$$$$$$$.com
> signing off. [popper.c:242]
> Dec 21 16:00:29 mail qpopper[1113]: (v3.0.2) Ending request from
"JohnSmith"
> at (###.###.###.###) ###.###.###.### [popper.c:253]
>
> I changed certain text in the trace to protect the innocent. I checked my
> \etc\passwd file and verified that JohnSmith existed. Does Qpopper use a
> different passwd file?
>
>
> Please Help!!!
>
> Dave Robinson
>
>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 17:09:04 -0600
From: Butch Kemper <kemper at tstar dot net>
Subject: RE: QPopper 3.0.2 Install Problem
The userid is coming in mixed case which will not match a lowercase entry
in the PASSWD file.
Butch
At 03:09 PM 12/21/00, you wrote:
>Hi
>
>the userid is in lowercase...and I am not using shadow passwords - I did try
>the --enable-specialauth just for fun and it didn't work...
>
>Dave
>
>
>
>maybe you have JohnSmith capitalized in your password file. all usernames
>should be lowercase.
>
>-Tony
>.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
>Anthony J. Biacco Network Administrator/Engineer
>thelittleprince at asteroid-b612 dot org Intergrafix Internet Services
>
> "Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today"
>http://www.asteroid-b612.org http://www.intergrafix.net
>.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
>
>On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Dave Robinson wrote:
>
> > I am having a seriously hard time getting Qpopper to work on our Linux
>mail
> > server. Sendmail has been installed on this box and has been running
> > perfectly for 9 months. I installed Qpopper and have not been able to get
>it
> > to run. I followed all of your FAQ's and even consulted our Linux
> > consultants and no one can figure out what the problem is.
> >
> > Can you somehow offer me some assitance? The problem - whenever someone
>logs
> > in(using Outlook Express) they get a 'Your password was rejected' I have
> > checked and rechecked the password. I am using standard Linux
> > authentication, but tried the specialauth flag and still doesn't work.
> >
> > I enabled tracing and got the follwing output...
> >
> > Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: Debugging turned on [pop_init.c:240]
> > Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: (v3.0.2) Unable to get canonical name
>of
> > client ###.###.###.###: Unknown host (1) [pop_init.c:401]
> > Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: (v3.0.2) Servicing request from
> > "###.###.###.###" at ###.###.###.### [pop_init.c:504]
> > Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: +OK QPOP (version 3.0.2) at
> > mail.$$$$$$$.com starting. [popper.c:160]
> > Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: Qpopper ready for input from (null) at
> > ###.###.###.### [###.###.###.###] [popper.c:188]
> > Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: Received (16): "USER JohnSmith"
> > [pop_get_command.c:87]
> > Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: +OK Password required for JohnSmith.
> > [pop_user.c:249]
> > Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: Qpopper ready for input from JohnSmith
> > at ###.###.###.### [###.###.###.###] [popper.c:188]
> > Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: Received: "pass xxxxxxxxx"
> > [pop_get_command.c:81]
> > Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: User JohnSmith not in passwd file
> > [pop_pass.c:886]
> > Dec 21 16:00:29 mail qpopper[1113]: JohnSmith at ###.###.###.###
> > (###.###.###.###): -ERR [AUTH] Password supplied for "JohnSmith" is
> > incorrect. [pop_pass.c:888]
> > Dec 21 16:00:29 mail qpopper[1113]: +OK Pop server at mail.$$$$$$$.com
> > signing off. [popper.c:242]
> > Dec 21 16:00:29 mail qpopper[1113]: (v3.0.2) Ending request from
>"JohnSmith"
> > at (###.###.###.###) ###.###.###.### [popper.c:253]
> >
> > I changed certain text in the trace to protect the innocent. I checked my
> > \etc\passwd file and verified that JohnSmith existed. Does Qpopper use a
> > different passwd file?
> >
> >
> > Please Help!!!
> >
> > Dave Robinson
> >
> >
TSTAR Internet, Inc | Making the Net Work
Marble Falls, TX | Serving Blanco, Burnet,
830-693-6967 | Llano, and Mason Counties
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 18:44:36 -0500
From: Joseph S D Yao <jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov>
Subject: Re: QPopper 3.0.2 Install Problem
On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 03:24:53PM -0500, Dave Robinson wrote:
...
> Can you somehow offer me some assitance? The problem - whenever someone logs
> in(using Outlook Express) they get a 'Your password was rejected' I have
> checked and rechecked the password. I am using standard Linux
> authentication, but tried the specialauth flag and still doesn't work.
...
"Standard Linux authentication" is much more complex these days. I
have noticed that some distributions are, by default, using MD5
encrypted passwords rather than 'crypt'-encrypted. The choice is
greatly extended by the use of PAM.
Do you know what you are using?
--
Joe Yao jsdy at cospo.osis dot gov - Joseph S. D. Yao
COSPO/OSIS Computer Support EMT-B
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 20:01:44 -0800
From: Jason <arnjuka at optonline dot net>
Subject: How to get qpopper working after compile
My setup follows:
RH linux 6.2 running on an intel box
Two nics, one to a cable modem, the other to the internal network. I
use ipmasqing and ipchains and portforwarding. This machine acts as my
router.
I've installed qpopper 3.1.2 the latest version. I configured and
compiled it like this: ./configure
--enable-specialauth--enable-servermode then I did make and put the
binary in /usr/local/lib.
I'm on an internal machine right now testing it out, the ip is
10.0.0.1. When I use netscape to connect to the router/pop server,
either using it's external ip address, or it's internal one I get an
error from netscape saying please contact the administrator.
If theres any more description I can give you guys/gals that will help
you help me, please let me know.
Sincerly Thank You,
-juka
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 21:33:27 -0800
From: Jason <arnjuka at optonline dot net>
Subject: (no subject)
My setup follows:
RH linux 6.2 running on an intel box
Two nics, one to a cable modem, the other to the internal network. I
use ipmasqing and ipchains and portforwarding. This machine acts as my
router.
I've installed qpopper 3.1.2 the latest version. I configured and
compiled it like this: ./configure
--enable-specialauth--enable-servermode then I did make and put the
binary in /usr/local/lib.
I'm on an internal machine right now testing it out, the ip is
10.0.0.1. When I use netscape to connect to the router/pop server,
either using it's external ip address, or it's internal one I get an
error from netscape saying please contact the administrator.
If theres any more description I can give you guys/gals that will help
you help me, please let me know.
Sincerly Thank You,
-juka
From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 18:51:03 -0800
Subject: Qpopper 3.1.2 on RH6.2
[Please use a meaningful subject line.]
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 21:33:27 -0800, Jason wrote:
>I'm on an internal machine right now testing it out, the ip is
>10.0.0.1. When I use netscape to connect to the router/pop server,
>either using it's external ip address, or it's internal one I get an
>error from netscape saying please contact the administrator.
Try telnet'ing to port 110 of either interface and see if you get
qpopper's banner.
Since you're running ipchains, do you have port 110 open?
Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 22:09:32 -0800
From: Jason <arnjuka at optonline dot net>
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.1.2 on RH6.2
I think the reason why it was even connecting and showing up in netstat
-ta printout was because I had ipop3d running through inetd.conf.
I want popper to run in server mode. So it should be an always running
process, right? Like httpd. When I do popper -s nothing seems to happen.
I also commented the ipop3d from inetd.conf and now pop3 isn't open, so
it wasn't popper that was working before. So, how do I even get popper
started?
-juka
Kenneth Porter wrote:
> [Please use a meaningful subject line.]
>
> On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 21:33:27 -0800, Jason wrote:
>
> >I'm on an internal machine right now testing it out, the ip is
> >10.0.0.1. When I use netscape to connect to the router/pop server,
> >either using it's external ip address, or it's internal one I get an
> >error from netscape saying please contact the administrator.
>
> Try telnet'ing to port 110 of either interface and see if you get
> qpopper's banner.
>
> Since you're running ipchains, do you have port 110 open?
>
> Ken
> mailto:shiva at well dot com
> http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 19:08:32 -0800 (PST)
From: "Jeremy C. Reed" <reed at wcug.wwu dot edu>
Subject: Re: How to get qpopper working after compile
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Jason wrote:
> I've installed qpopper 3.1.2 the latest version. I configured and
> compiled it like this: ./configure
> --enable-specialauth--enable-servermode then I did make and put the
> binary in /usr/local/lib.
>
> I'm on an internal machine right now testing it out, the ip is
> 10.0.0.1. When I use netscape to connect to the router/pop server,
> either using it's external ip address, or it's internal one I get an
> error from netscape saying please contact the administrator.
Is it running standalone or via inetd (or something else)?
Did you start it?
Jeremy C. Reed
http://www.isp-faq.com/ -- find answers to your questions
From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 19:19:46 -0800
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.1.2 on RH6.2
[I'm replying back to the list so others can answer.]
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 22:08:28 -0800, Jason wrote:
>I think the reason why it was even connecting and showing up in netstat
>-ta printout was because I had ipop3d running through inetd.conf.
>
>I want popper to run in server mode. So it should be an always running
>process, right? Like httpd. When I do popper -s nothing seems to happen.
I don't use it in server mode so I'll have to leave this question to
those that do.
Do you see anything in your log files? I use "ls -lt /var/log | head"
to see which logs were written last, and therefore are mostly likely to
have information from the program I just started.
>I also commented the ipop3d from inetd.conf and now pop3 isn't open, so
>it wasn't popper that was working before. So, how do I even get popper
>started?
Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 20:54:46 -0800
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: How to get qpopper working after compile
At 8:01 PM -0800 12/21/00, Jason wrote:
> My setup follows:
>
> RH linux 6.2 running on an intel box
> Two nics, one to a cable modem, the other to the internal network. I
> use ipmasqing and ipchains and portforwarding. This machine acts as my
> router.
>
> I've installed qpopper 3.1.2 the latest version. I configured and
> compiled it like this: ./configure
> --enable-specialauth--enable-servermode then I did make and put the
> binary in /usr/local/lib.
Be sure to follow the steps in the INSTALL file. You also have to
make sure inetd knows about it, or that it gets started if it's in
standalone mode. The "troubleshooting" section of the INSTALL file
has tips for finding out what is wrong.
>
> I'm on an internal machine right now testing it out, the ip is
> 10.0.0.1. When I use netscape to connect to the router/pop server,
> either using it's external ip address, or it's internal one I get an
> error from netscape saying please contact the administrator.
>
> If theres any more description I can give you guys/gals that will help
> you help me, please let me know.
>
>
> Sincerly Thank You,
> -juka
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 20:52:32 -0800
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: QPopper 3.0.2 Install Problem
At 3:24 PM -0500 12/21/00, Dave Robinson wrote:
> Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: User JohnSmith not in passwd file
> [pop_pass.c:886]
> I changed certain text in the trace to protect the innocent. I checked my
> \etc\passwd file and verified that JohnSmith existed. Does Qpopper use a
> different passwd file?
Qpopper doesn't read the /etc/passwd file itself, it uses getpwnam()
and friends.
The error you are getting means the getpwnam() call failed. Usually
this is because the user, as entered, does not exist. If it's a case
issue, you can use the 'downcase-user' config file or '-c'
command-line option to force user names into lower case. It might be
some other problem, such as the system not having enough memory to
allocate the structure, but this seems unlikely.
You might create a new, test user, and see if you can log in to
Qpopper using that. If you still have a problem, send the log
snippet, and don't edit the user name at all. (You said you changed
the text in this case, so we can't see what was actually entered.)
When you check if the user is in the /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow
files, be sure to grep on exactly what is in the log -- use
copy-and-paste, don't retype.
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 20:57:17 -0800
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.1.2 on RH6.2
At 10:09 PM -0800 12/21/00, Jason wrote:
> I think the reason why it was even connecting and showing up in netstat
> -ta printout was because I had ipop3d running through inetd.conf.
>
> I want popper to run in server mode. So it should be an always running
> process, right? Like httpd. When I do popper -s nothing seems to happen.
Server mode and standalone mode are different. You can use either,
both, or none.
If you didn't compile with '--enable-standalone' then it's in inetd
mode. You need to have inetd launch it. See the INSTALL file for
details. If you want it to be always running then you need to
compile with '--enable-standalone' and launch it (and have it
launched on system start).
>
> I also commented the ipop3d from inetd.conf and now pop3 isn't open, so
> it wasn't popper that was working before. So, how do I even get popper
> started?
>
> -juka
>
> Kenneth Porter wrote:
>
>> [Please use a meaningful subject line.]
>>
>> On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 21:33:27 -0800, Jason wrote:
>>
>> >I'm on an internal machine right now testing it out, the ip is
>> >10.0.0.1. When I use netscape to connect to the router/pop server,
>> >either using it's external ip address, or it's internal one I get an
>> >error from netscape saying please contact the administrator.
>>
>> Try telnet'ing to port 110 of either interface and see if you get
>> qpopper's banner.
>>
>> Since you're running ipchains, do you have port 110 open?
>>
>> Ken
>> mailto:shiva at well dot com
>> http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 00:37:35 -0800
From: Jason <arnjuka at optonline dot net>
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.1.2 on RH6.2
I tried what you said, compiling it with: ./configure --enable-standalone
When I'm done, and I try to run it, either with 'popper', or 'popper -s' nothing
happens... Any ideas?
-juka
Qpopper Support wrote:
> At 10:09 PM -0800 12/21/00, Jason wrote:
>
> > I think the reason why it was even connecting and showing up in netstat
> > -ta printout was because I had ipop3d running through inetd.conf.
> >
> > I want popper to run in server mode. So it should be an always running
> > process, right? Like httpd. When I do popper -s nothing seems to happen.
>
> Server mode and standalone mode are different. You can use either,
> both, or none.
>
> If you didn't compile with '--enable-standalone' then it's in inetd
> mode. You need to have inetd launch it. See the INSTALL file for
> details. If you want it to be always running then you need to
> compile with '--enable-standalone' and launch it (and have it
> launched on system start).
>
> >
> > I also commented the ipop3d from inetd.conf and now pop3 isn't open, so
> > it wasn't popper that was working before. So, how do I even get popper
> > started?
> >
> > -juka
> >
> > Kenneth Porter wrote:
> >
> >> [Please use a meaningful subject line.]
> >>
> >> On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 21:33:27 -0800, Jason wrote:
> >>
> >> >I'm on an internal machine right now testing it out, the ip is
> >> >10.0.0.1. When I use netscape to connect to the router/pop server,
> >> >either using it's external ip address, or it's internal one I get an
> >> >error from netscape saying please contact the administrator.
> >>
> >> Try telnet'ing to port 110 of either interface and see if you get
> >> qpopper's banner.
> >>
> >> Since you're running ipchains, do you have port 110 open?
> >>
> >> Ken
> >> mailto:shiva at well dot com
> >> http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 00:55:32 -0800
From: Jason <arnjuka at optonline dot net>
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.1.2 on RH6.2
Active Internet connections (servers and established)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State
tcp 0 0 10.0.0.1:pop3 10.0.0.2:1829 TIME_WAIT
Whats up with this? I set it to run from inetd, then I made a connection and
I get an error from netscape, and this is the output from netstat -ta....
-juka
Kenneth Porter wrote:
> [I'm replying back to the list so others can answer.]
>
> On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 22:08:28 -0800, Jason wrote:
>
> >I think the reason why it was even connecting and showing up in netstat
> >-ta printout was because I had ipop3d running through inetd.conf.
> >
> >I want popper to run in server mode. So it should be an always running
> >process, right? Like httpd. When I do popper -s nothing seems to happen.
>
> I don't use it in server mode so I'll have to leave this question to
> those that do.
>
> Do you see anything in your log files? I use "ls -lt /var/log | head"
> to see which logs were written last, and therefore are mostly likely to
> have information from the program I just started.
>
> >I also commented the ipop3d from inetd.conf and now pop3 isn't open, so
> >it wasn't popper that was working before. So, how do I even get popper
> >started?
>
> Ken
> mailto:shiva at well dot com
> http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 22:05:43 -0800
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.1.2 on RH6.2
On Fri, 22 Dec 2000 00:55:32 -0800, Jason wrote:
>Active Internet connections (servers and established)
>Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State
>tcp 0 0 10.0.0.1:pop3 10.0.0.2:1829 TIME_WAIT
>
>Whats up with this? I set it to run from inetd, then I made a connection and
>I get an error from netscape, and this is the output from netstat -ta....
That's normal. When you close a socket, it goes into the TIME_WAIT
state for 4 minutes. This prevents a socket from getting reused too
soon on a high-latency connection, and having some packets from a new
connection misinterpreted as late packets from an old connection.
Meanwhile, don't use Netscape for this level of debugging, use telnet.
It tests for a much simpler condition, and lets you see what bytes are
going across the wire. Simply connecting to qpopper with telnet should
get you a banner, so you don't even need to know the POP3 protocol to
see if it's working.
Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 22:30:47 -0800
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.1.2 on RH6.2
On Fri, 22 Dec 2000 00:37:35 -0800, Jason wrote:
>I tried what you said, compiling it with: ./configure --enable-standalone
>
>When I'm done, and I try to run it, either with 'popper', or 'popper -s' nothing
>happens... Any ideas?
Also normal. In standalone mode, qpopper forks into the background. If
there were no errors, you'll get back your command prompt. You can
check your system logs to see if qpopper has reported anything
interesting. Use "ps axf" to see if it's running.
Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 00:56:31 -0600 (CST)
From: Ricky Crow <rickyc at thenew.gamesbbs dot com>
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.1.2 on RH6.2
On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Jason wrote:
> I tried what you said, compiling it with: ./configure --enable-standalone
>
> When I'm done, and I try to run it, either with 'popper', or 'popper -s' nothing
> happens... Any ideas?
In my experience, I tried it with a capital -S and it worked.
Ricky
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 22:37:55 -0800
From: Qpopper Support <qpopper at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Qpopper 3.1.2 on RH6.2
At 12:37 AM -0800 12/22/00, Jason wrote:
> I tried what you said, compiling it with: ./configure --enable-standalone
>
> When I'm done, and I try to run it, either with 'popper', or
> 'popper -s' nothing
> happens... Any ideas?
Try 'ps -x | grep popper' (or whichever ps flags you need on your
platform). It's probably running. Also, try 'telnet localhost 110'
and see if you get the banner.
Also, you are using 3.1.2, right?
From: Dave Robinson <DRobinson at vtgnet dot com>
Subject: RE: QPopper 3.0.2 Install Problem
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 07:41:11 -0500
I have no clue what I am using. Here is an open question---What should I be
using...I need security plus ease of use - and possibly the ability to have
people change their passwords via a website(in the future)
Any ideas?
On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 03:24:53PM -0500, Dave Robinson wrote:
...
> Can you somehow offer me some assitance? The problem - whenever someone
logs
> in(using Outlook Express) they get a 'Your password was rejected' I have
> checked and rechecked the password. I am using standard Linux
> authentication, but tried the specialauth flag and still doesn't work.
...
"Standard Linux authentication" is much more complex these days. I
have noticed that some distributions are, by default, using MD5
encrypted passwords rather than 'crypt'-encrypted. The choice is
greatly extended by the use of PAM.
Do you know what you are using?
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From: Dave Robinson <DRobinson at vtgnet dot com>
Subject: RE: QPopper 3.0.2 Install Problem
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 07:56:35 -0500
Ok...I think we might be on to something. I went into LinuxConf and went
into virtual mail domains. I deleted the users that were there and added a
new one(all lower case). I then checked my passwd file and the new user was
not there. I do have a file named shadow (no extension) and the new user
doesnt exist in there either.
So here is where I am at...
Does the existence of a shadow file mean that the system is using shadow
passwords?
What is the correct procedure for entering user id's and passwords for
virtual domains?
Is there some other package I should be using for hosting a whole bunch of
virtual domains?
Thanks in advance...
-----Original Message-----
Is pam enabled?
Dave Robinson wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> the userid is in lowercase...and I am not using shadow passwords - I did
try
> the --enable-specialauth just for fun and it didn't work...
>
> Dave
>
> maybe you have JohnSmith capitalized in your password file. all usernames
> should be lowercase.
>
> -Tony
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> Anthony J. Biacco Network Administrator/Engineer
> thelittleprince at asteroid-b612 dot org Intergrafix Internet Services
>
> "Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today"
> http://www.asteroid-b612.org http://www.intergrafix.net
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>
> On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Dave Robinson wrote:
>
> > I am having a seriously hard time getting Qpopper to work on our Linux
> mail
> > server. Sendmail has been installed on this box and has been running
> > perfectly for 9 months. I installed Qpopper and have not been able to
get
> it
> > to run. I followed all of your FAQ's and even consulted our Linux
> > consultants and no one can figure out what the problem is.
> >
> > Can you somehow offer me some assitance? The problem - whenever someone
> logs
> > in(using Outlook Express) they get a 'Your password was rejected' I have
> > checked and rechecked the password. I am using standard Linux
> > authentication, but tried the specialauth flag and still doesn't work.
> >
> > I enabled tracing and got the follwing output...
> >
> > Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: Debugging turned on [pop_init.c:240]
> > Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: (v3.0.2) Unable to get canonical
name
> of
> > client ###.###.###.###: Unknown host (1) [pop_init.c:401]
> > Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: (v3.0.2) Servicing request from
> > "###.###.###.###" at ###.###.###.### [pop_init.c:504]
> > Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: +OK QPOP (version 3.0.2) at
> > mail.$$$$$$$.com starting. [popper.c:160]
> > Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: Qpopper ready for input from (null)
at
> > ###.###.###.### [###.###.###.###] [popper.c:188]
> > Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: Received (16): "USER JohnSmith"
> > [pop_get_command.c:87]
> > Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: +OK Password required for JohnSmith.
> > [pop_user.c:249]
> > Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: Qpopper ready for input from
JohnSmith
> > at ###.###.###.### [###.###.###.###] [popper.c:188]
> > Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: Received: "pass xxxxxxxxx"
> > [pop_get_command.c:81]
> > Dec 21 16:00:19 mail qpopper[1113]: User JohnSmith not in passwd file
> > [pop_pass.c:886]
> > Dec 21 16:00:29 mail qpopper[1113]: JohnSmith at ###.###.###.###
> > (###.###.###.###): -ERR [AUTH] Password supplied for "JohnSmith" is
> > incorrect. [pop_pass.c:888]
> > Dec 21 16:00:29 mail qpopper[1113]: +OK Pop server at mail.$$$$$$$.com
> > signing off. [popper.c:242]
> > Dec 21 16:00:29 mail qpopper[1113]: (v3.0.2) Ending request from
> "JohnSmith"
> > at (###.###.###.###) ###.###.###.### [popper.c:253]
> >
> > I changed certain text in the trace to protect the innocent. I checked
my
> > \etc\passwd file and verified that JohnSmith existed. Does Qpopper use a
> > different passwd file?
> >
> >
> > Please Help!!!
> >
> > Dave Robinson
> >
> >
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 02:15:18 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: RE: QPopper 3.0.2 Install Problem
On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Dave Robinson wrote:
> Ok...I think we might be on to something. I went into LinuxConf
Redhat box?
If so, you need to enable PAM support.
AB
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 12:14:51 -0200
From: Rodrigo Luiz Anami <rodrigoa at bestway.com dot br>
Subject: Qpopper died in standalone mode
Hi everyone,
After a discussion about the advantages in using qpopper standalone over
qpopper rely on inetd, I compiled qpopper 3.1.2 with --enable-standalone.
It was working well, but this morning, it's seemly that qpopper died
without any clue on syslog. Anyone already suffer this symptom ? Anybody
knows how to debug this ?
Thanks in advance.
_________________________________________________________________
Eng° Rodrigo Luiz Anami rodrigoa at bestway.com dot br
Administrador de Sistemas Voz:(19) 3736 3721 Cel:(19) 9123 9995
Best Way Internet Provider (19) 3736 3700 (Campinas)
http://www.bestway.com.br (19) 3736 3727 (FAX)
webmaster at bestway.com dot br 0800 112262 (Outras Localidades)
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 09:36:58 -0500
From: Jack Sasportas <jack at innovativeinternet dot com>
Subject: Re: Qpopper died in standalone mode
Could you send me the thread name that the advantages were discussed ?
I use qpopper on 6.1 & 6.2 Redhat, with no problems, I use it via inet and
complied it with
./configure --enable-specialauth --enable-uw-kludge
Thanks...
Rodrigo Luiz Anami wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> After a discussion about the advantages in using qpopper standalone over
> qpopper rely on inetd, I compiled qpopper 3.1.2 with --enable-standalone.
>
> It was working well, but this morning, it's seemly that qpopper died
> without any clue on syslog. Anyone already suffer this symptom ? Anybody
> knows how to debug this ?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Eng° Rodrigo Luiz Anami rodrigoa at bestway.com dot br
> Administrador de Sistemas Voz:(19) 3736 3721 Cel:(19) 9123 9995
> Best Way Internet Provider (19) 3736 3700 (Campinas)
> http://www.bestway.com.br (19) 3736 3727 (FAX)
> webmaster at bestway.com dot br 0800 112262 (Outras Localidades)
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