The qpopper list archive ending on 10 Jan 2001
Topics covered in this issue include:
1. Re: syslog error message concerning popper
Steven Champeon <schampeo at hesketh dot com>
Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:38:44 -0500
2. Re: syslog error message concerning popper
"Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Wed, 03 Jan 2001 07:44:23 -0800
3. RE: syslog error message concerning popper
"InvictaNet Customer Support" <support at invictanet.co dot uk>
Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:45:03 -0000
4. Re: syslog error message concerning popper
Gustavo Viscaino <g_viscaino at yahoo dot com>
Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:28:59 -0800 (PST)
5. pop-before-smtp again...
"Jeff Shultz(Shultz Infosystems)" <si at wvi dot com>
Thu, 04 Jan 2001 10:16:32 -0800 (PST)
6. RE: pop-before-smtp again...
"Adrian Duran" <adrian at pyramidaccess dot com>
Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:58:06 -0700
7. RE: pop-before-smtp again...
Noel Koethe <noel at koethe dot net>
Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:19:16 +0100 (CET)
8. APOP database compatible with older versions?
Christina Plummer <chpr at mail.rochester dot edu>
Mon, 8 Jan 2001 15:00:35 -0500
9. Introducing Qpopper LX
Qpopper Customer Service <qpop-custserv at qualcomm dot com>
Mon, 8 Jan 2001 23:48:21 -0800
10. qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
"Sebastian Enders" <enders at comvos dot de>
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:02:21 +0100
11. RE: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
"InvictaNet Customer Support" <support at invictanet.co dot uk>
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:38:10 -0000
12. Username with '@'.
Carles Xavier Munyoz =?iso-8859-1?Q?Baldó?=
Tue, 09 Jan 2001 13:52:10 +0100
13. Re: Username with '@'.
Admin Mailing Lists <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 10:06:48 -0500 (EST)
14. Re: Introducing Qpopper LX
Admin Mailing Lists <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 10:34:03 -0500 (EST)
15. mysql patch in dist.?
Admin Mailing Lists <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 10:34:52 -0500 (EST)
16. Re: Introducing Qpopper LX
Forrest Aldrich <forrie at forrie dot com>
Tue, 09 Jan 2001 10:45:18 -0500
17. Re: Introducing Qpopper LX
Peter Evans <peter at gol dot com>
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 00:50:10 +0900
18. ERR - Too many arguments for the user command
Wallace Nicoll <wallace.nicoll at edinburgh.gov dot uk>
Tue, 09 Jan 2001 16:30:18 +0000
19. qpopper 3.1.2 install question
Greg <gregt at longwood.lwc dot edu>
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:51:08 -0500 (EST)
20. Re: Introducing Qpopper LX
Leonard Hermens <Leonard.Hermens at rcity dot com>
Tue, 09 Jan 2001 09:09:45 -0800
21. Re: ERR - Too many arguments for the user command
Fergal Daly <fergal at esatclear dot ie>
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:23:45 +0000
22. Re: Introducing Qpopper LX
Forrest Aldrich <forrie at forrie dot com>
Tue, 09 Jan 2001 12:25:42 -0500
23. RE: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
"Marc Jacquard" <marcj at fujitsu dot com>
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 08:03:06 -1000
24. RE: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
"Vigilante, Anthony" <anthony.vigilante at corp.bellsouth dot net>
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:38:38 -0500
25. Re: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
Jack Sasportas <jack at innovativeinternet dot com>
Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:40:31 -0500
26. Re: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
Mike Bell <mbell at miamisystems dot com>
Tue, 09 Jan 2001 15:05:29 -0500
27. RE: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
Michiel Boland <boland at carmel.diva dot nl>
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 21:01:43 +0100 (CET)
28. Re: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
Leonard Hermens <Leonard.Hermens at rcity dot com>
Tue, 09 Jan 2001 12:30:31 -0800
29. Re: mysql patch in dist.?
Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:13:22 -0800
30. RE: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:17:44 -0800
31. A comment
"Chilvers, Ronan (UKI)" <ronan at ukinternet.co dot uk>
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:38:16 -0000
32. Re: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
"Sebastian Enders" <enders at comvos dot de>
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:13:08 +0100
33. RE: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
"Sebastian Enders" <enders at comvos dot de>
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:30:10 +0100
34. RE: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
"Sebastian Enders" <enders at comvos dot de>
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:35:18 +0100
35. Re: A comment
Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Thu, 11 Jan 2001 00:37:59 +1300 (NZDT)
36. RE: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
"Sebastian Enders" <enders at comvos dot de>
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:45:16 +0100
37. Re: A comment
peter.allen at moon-light.co dot uk
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:10:26 +0000
38. procmail not sending mail into hash dir?
Yung-Ta Hsu <arda at mail.educities.edu dot tw>
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 21:17:02 +0800
39. Re: procmail not sending mail into hash dir?
Fergal Daly <fergal at esatclear dot ie>
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 15:11:39 +0000
40. RE: A comment
"InvictaNet Customer Support" <support at invictanet.co dot uk>
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 16:11:08 -0000
41. /var/spool/mqueue ?
"David Andrews" <dandrews at mpiua dot com>
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:30:42 -0500
42. Re: /var/spool/mqueue ?
"A. M. Salim" <salim at localweb dot com>
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:16:33 -0500 (EST)
43. Re: /var/spool/mqueue ?
Georg Schwarz <schwarz at physik.tu-berlin dot de>
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:54:54 +0100 (MET)
44. Re: /var/spool/mqueue ?
Leonard Hermens <Leonard.Hermens at rcity dot com>
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:03:04 -0800
45. RE: A comment
Leonard Hermens <Leonard.Hermens at rcity dot com>
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:00:28 -0800
46. RE: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
"Sebastian Enders" <enders at comvos dot de>
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 18:07:29 +0100
47. Another Question
"David Andrews" <dandrews at mpiua dot com>
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:13:54 -0500
48. RE: /var/spool/mqueue ?
"David Andrews" <dandrews at mpiua dot com>
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:53:11 -0500
49. Re: Another Question
"A. M. Salim" <salim at localweb dot com>
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:16:37 -0500 (EST)
50. Re: /var/spool/mqueue ?
Theresa M Peter <theresa at email.uc dot edu>
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:06:33 -0500
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:38:44 -0500
From: Steven Champeon <schampeo at hesketh dot com>
Subject: Re: syslog error message concerning popper
on Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 10:24:52AM -0500, Vigilante, Anthony wrote:
> Jan 3 10:15:22 mail-1 popper[25642]: (v2.52) Unable to get canonical name
> of
> client, err = 9
>
> Can anyone provide me insight as to what the above error message pertains
> to?
1) you're running an insecure version of qpopper
2) it means popper was unable to get the canonical name of the client
In other words, the client's IP address did not reverse resolve to a
hostname. I commented this out long ago, as I usually don't control
the reverse DNS for my gateways and it just fills up the logs with a
slew of useless information.
HTH,
Steve
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From: "Kenneth Porter" <shiva at well dot com>
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 07:44:23 -0800
Subject: Re: syslog error message concerning popper
On Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:24:52 -0500, Vigilante, Anthony wrote:
>Jan 3 10:15:22 mail-1 popper[25642]: (v2.52) Unable to get canonical name
>of client, err = 9
>Can anyone provide me insight as to what the above error message pertains
>to?
Qpopper (or maybe tcp_wrappers) is trying to lookup the client's name
given its address, using DNS, and no record was found. You can either
disable the check or add PTR records to your DNS for the offending
client.
Ken
mailto:shiva at well dot com
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
From: "InvictaNet Customer Support" <support at invictanet.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: syslog error message concerning popper
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:45:03 -0000
Dear oh dear....
There are some lazy people about.
http://www.eudora.com/qpopper/faq.html#canonical
Martyn Routley
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-----Original Message-----
From: Vigilante, Anthony [mailto:anthony.vigilante at corp.bellsouth dot net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 3:25 PM
To: Subscribers of Qpopper
Subject: syslog error message concerning popper
Jan 3 10:15:22 mail-1 popper[25642]: (v2.52) Unable to get canonical name
of
client, err = 9
Can anyone provide me insight as to what the above error message pertains
to?
Thanks,
Anthony
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:28:59 -0800 (PST)
From: Gustavo Viscaino <g_viscaino at yahoo dot com>
Subject: Re: syslog error message concerning popper
To be honest, I think the main problem here is the
"v2.52" bit of the message. ;-) Please man, upgrade!
It's usually easy to upgrade qpopper... the version
you're using has NASTY bugs, some of them permitting
root exploit!!
For the problem's description:
http://www.eudora.com/qpopper/#BUFFER
For the solution, download Qpopper's new release:
http://www.eudora.com/qpopper/#MIRRORS
Later,
Gustavo Viscaino
--- Steven Champeon <schampeo at hesketh dot com> wrote:
> on Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 10:24:52AM -0500, Vigilante,
> Anthony wrote:
> > Jan 3 10:15:22 mail-1 popper[25642]: (v2.52)
> Unable to get canonical name
> > of
> > client, err = 9
> >
> > Can anyone provide me insight as to what the above
> error message pertains
> > to?
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From: "Jeff Shultz(Shultz Infosystems)" <si at wvi dot com>
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 10:16:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: pop-before-smtp again...
Does anyone have the parse needed for pop-before-smtp to understand qpopper's latest logfile format?
The last time I lucked into it by hit-and-miss, but if someone else has already figured out the coding I'd appreciate hearing from
you.
Thanks!
Jeff Shultz
Shultz Infosystems - si at wvi dot com
http://www.wvi.com/~jbshultz
From: "Adrian Duran" <adrian at pyramidaccess dot com>
Subject: RE: pop-before-smtp again...
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:58:06 -0700
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Shultz(Shultz Infosystems) [mailto:si at wvi dot com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 11:17 AM
> To: Subscribers of Qpopper
> Subject: pop-before-smtp again...
>
>
> Does anyone have the parse needed for pop-before-smtp to
> understand qpopper's latest logfile format?
is this what you're looking for?
/^([A-Za-z]+\s+\d+\s+\d+\:\d+\:\d+).+POP login by user
\"(.+)\".+\s(\d+\.\d+\.\d+.\d+).*$/
$time = $1;
$user = $2;
$ip = $3;
This one worked for me. It is from this file here.
http://www.abuse.org.il/spam/tools/smPbS.html
You will have to edit this one though.
> The last time I lucked into it by hit-and-miss, but if someone
> else has already figured out the coding I'd appreciate hearing from
> you.
>
> Thanks!
Good Luck!
Adrian Duran
adrian at pyramidaccess dot com
> Jeff Shultz
> Shultz Infosystems - si at wvi dot com
> http://www.wvi.com/~jbshultz
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:19:16 +0100 (CET)
From: Noel Koethe <noel at koethe dot net>
Subject: RE: pop-before-smtp again...
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Adrian Duran wrote:
> > Does anyone have the parse needed for pop-before-smtp to
> > understand qpopper's latest logfile format?
>
> is this what you're looking for?
>
> /^([A-Za-z]+\s+\d+\s+\d+\:\d+\:\d+).+POP login by user
> \"(.+)\".+\s(\d+\.\d+\.\d+.\d+).*$/
qpopper 2.5x logs with "POP login by"
latest is qpopper 3.1.2 an this one logs like this:
in.popper[26903]: connect from 62.226.223.214
in.popper[26903]: Stats: username 0 0 0 0 p3EE2DFD6.dip.t-dialin.net \
62.226.223.214
For this line I'm looking for a regex, too.
thx.
--
MvfG
Noel
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 15:00:35 -0500
From: Christina Plummer <chpr at mail.rochester dot edu>
Subject: APOP database compatible with older versions?
I'm trying to upgrade from Qpopper 2.53 to 3.1. However, for some reason
the current host doesn't have a pop.auth file, though it's using APOP --
instead it just has pop.auth.dir and pop.auth.pag. pop.auth.dir doesn't
seem to have been changed in a long time, while pop.auth.pag appears to be
the one updated when I run 'popauth'. When I installed qpopper on the
mirror machine for testing, it created the pop.auth file, but not those
others. How can I install qpopper & apop so that the users who have
already set their passwords with popauth don't have to do so again? This
is a production server, so I am very hesitant to install it until I am
sure what will happen.
Any help would be appreciated!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Christina Plummer chpr at ats.rochester dot edu
UNIX Systems Consultant (716)273-1651
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 23:48:21 -0800
From: Qpopper Customer Service <qpop-custserv at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Introducing Qpopper LX
QUALCOMM for many years has been enhancing, supporting, and
distributing the Qpopper POP3 server as a free, open-source product.
We've enjoyed doing this and remain fully committed to continuing to
do so.
We're now also offering a low-cost, premier version of Qpopper called
Qpopper LX. Qpopper LX includes TLS/SSL support as well as very fast
start-up times and reduced I/O at session close. Read more about the
enhancements at <http://www.eudora.com/qpopper>.
QUALCOMM created these two versions so that we can continue to
develop and support mail server technology and continue to provide
new, compelling, advanced features for mail administrators at a
reasonable cost.
QUALCOMM is also offering reasonably priced technical support
(available via telephone and email) for both products. See
<http://www.eudora.com/qpopper> for details.
Details of Qpopper's two-version offering:
o Qpopper: Open-source, multiple support options -- free.
o Qpopper LX: Full source code, TLS/SSL, multiple support options --
Limited time introductory price of $299 per CPU license (unlimited
users).
o Purchase of Qpopper LX source code license comes with a one-year
upgrade subscription: all new Qpopper LX revisions and upgrades are
free for 12 months.
Qpopper LX 4.0 is now in beta. By using Qpopper LX during the beta
period and giving us feedback on what you like and don't like, you
help us to improve the product. To make it worth your while (and to
thank you), you'll get extra benefits by purchasing before the
official release.
By purchasing now you get Qpopper LX immediately, all upgrades and
revisions for a full year after the official release, free email
support during the beta period, plus a $50 per-CPU discount from the
regular cost.
Please see the Qpopper web page at <http://www.eudora.com/qpopper>
for more details and to purchase Qpopper LX.
We want to emphasize that Qpopper LX is an additional choice in POP
servers. The free Qpopper will continue to be supported. But Qpopper
LX will have the very latest features and performance.
Steve Albers, Product Management
Randall Gellens, Engineering Lead
Richard Drew, QA Lead
Tam Vo, Web Content Lead
Raj Pitchaimani, Web Scripting Lead
From: "Sebastian Enders" <enders at comvos dot de>
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:02:21 +0100
Subject: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
Hi,
everytime someone will get mails I got the followig error message in my /var/log/mail
>(v3.1) Unable to get canonical name of client 0.0.0.0: Unknown host (1)
does anybody know what is going wrong and how can i fix it?
Thanks a lot,
bye,
Sebastian
Mit freundlichen Gruessen,
Ihr COMVOS Team
Sebastian Enders
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Internet, Administration
0621 / 17891-18
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Mannheim, Germany Tel:0621/17891 -0
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From: "InvictaNet Customer Support" <support at invictanet.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:38:10 -0000
Dear Sebastien (and everybody else who wants to ask this question)
Read the F..... Manual (insert your own word starting with F)
http://www.eudora.com/qpopper/faq.html#canonical
This is probably the most asked question on this list and, therefore, the
biggest waste of time. It really would help if people read the FAQ/manual
before they post.
Martyn Routley
-----------------------------------------------------
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sebastian Enders [mailto:enders at comvos dot de]
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 10:02 AM
To: Subscribers of Qpopper
Subject: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
Hi,
everytime someone will get mails I got the followig error message in my
/var/log/mail
>(v3.1) Unable to get canonical name of client 0.0.0.0: Unknown host (1)
does anybody know what is going wrong and how can i fix it?
Thanks a lot,
bye,
Sebastian
Mit freundlichen Gruessen,
Ihr COMVOS Team
Sebastian Enders
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sebastian Enders enders at comvos dot de
Internet, Administration
0621 / 17891-18
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
COMVOS online medien GmbH http://www.comvos.de/
Mannheim, Germany Tel:0621/17891 -0
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Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 13:52:10 +0100
From: Carles Xavier Munyoz =?iso-8859-1?Q?Baldó?=
Subject: Username with '@'.
Hi,
I have seen that for the Qpopper 3.1.2, this user names are the same:
test
test@domain
test at whateverdomain dot ext
Qpopper ignores the @ and whatever string after the @ for the user name.
How can I make Qpopper doesn't ignore it ?
I would like that user 'test@domain' to be different from user 'test'.
Greetings.
---
Carles Xavier Munyoz Baldó / cmunyoz at es.wanadoo dot com
Servicios IP - Experto en Sistemas IP
Wanadoo España - http://www.wanadoo.es/
Tel: +34 96 5040046 - Fax: +34 96 5040047
---
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 10:06:48 -0500 (EST)
From: Admin Mailing Lists <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
Subject: Re: Username with '@'.
i'm pretty sure it has to strip them to do authentication, you can't
compare test at domain dot com to a password file.
At least you shouldn't have such usernames in your password file!
Now if you were doing ldap or mysql auth, that might be different, but
that support isn't in qpopper natively.
-Tony
=2E-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
Anthony J. Biacco Network Administrator/Engineer
thelittleprince at asteroid-b612 dot org Intergrafix Internet Services
"Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today"
http://www.asteroid-b612.org http://www.intergrafix.net
=2E-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Carles Xavier Munyoz [iso-8859-1] Baldó wrote:
> Hi,
> I have seen that for the Qpopper 3.1.2, this user names are the same:
> test
> test@domain
> test at whateverdomain dot ext
>
> Qpopper ignores the @ and whatever string after the @ for the user name.
> How can I make Qpopper doesn't ignore it ?
> I would like that user 'test@domain' to be different from user 'test'.
>
> Greetings.
> ---
> Carles Xavier Munyoz Baldó / cmunyoz at es.wanadoo dot com
> Servicios IP - Experto en Sistemas IP
> Wanadoo España - http://www.wanadoo.es/
> Tel: +34 96 5040046 - Fax: +34 96 5040047
> ---
>
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 10:34:03 -0500 (EST)
From: Admin Mailing Lists <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
Subject: Re: Introducing Qpopper LX
>
> o Qpopper: Open-source, multiple support options -- free.
> o Qpopper LX: Full source code, TLS/SSL, multiple support options --
> Limited time introductory price of $299 per CPU license (unlimited
> users).
Ouch, 299 per CPU. that's not low cost. that's outrageous.
That's 600 for a 2-way SMP system.
-Tony
.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
Anthony J. Biacco Network Administrator/Engineer
thelittleprince at asteroid-b612 dot org Intergrafix Internet Services
"Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today"
http://www.asteroid-b612.org http://www.intergrafix.net
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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 10:34:52 -0500 (EST)
From: Admin Mailing Lists <mlist at intergrafix dot net>
Subject: mysql patch in dist.?
Any idea when/if the mysql auth patch will get into the norm.
distribution?
-Tony
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Anthony J. Biacco Network Administrator/Engineer
thelittleprince at asteroid-b612 dot org Intergrafix Internet Services
"Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today"
http://www.asteroid-b612.org http://www.intergrafix.net
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Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 10:45:18 -0500
From: Forrest Aldrich <forrie at forrie dot com>
Subject: Re: Introducing Qpopper LX
I don't necessarily have a problem with it, but I would like to see an
outline of where they want to take Qpopper LX.
It's very well that someone could off-shoot qpopper (if the code license
provides, or build from another server) into another OpenSource project
(read: sourceforge). and be done with it.
_F
At 10:34 AM 1/9/2001 -0500, Admin Mailing Lists wrote:
> >
> > o Qpopper: Open-source, multiple support options -- free.
> > o Qpopper LX: Full source code, TLS/SSL, multiple support options --
> > Limited time introductory price of $299 per CPU license (unlimited
> > users).
>
>Ouch, 299 per CPU. that's not low cost. that's outrageous.
>That's 600 for a 2-way SMP system.
>
>-Tony
>.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
>Anthony J. Biacco Network Administrator/Engineer
>thelittleprince at asteroid-b612 dot org Intergrafix Internet Services
>
> "Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today"
>http://www.asteroid-b612.org http://www.intergrafix.net
>.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 00:50:10 +0900
From: Peter Evans <peter at gol dot com>
Subject: Re: Introducing Qpopper LX
Admin Mailing Lists (mlist at intergrafix dot net) wrote:
> > o Qpopper: Open-source, multiple support options -- free.
> > o Qpopper LX: Full source code, TLS/SSL, multiple support options --
> > Limited time introductory price of $299 per CPU license (unlimited
> > users).
> Ouch, 299 per CPU. that's not low cost. that's outrageous.
> That's 600 for a 2-way SMP system.
That's false economy.
If it saves you 2 hours work, it has paid for itself. If it
saves you any more time, you're getting a free ride.
If you think it is too expensive, go work out how much your time
*REALLY* costs the company you work for. You, your desk, the space
you take up, ad nauseum (there's loads of good research on this.)
Evans' first law:
Beg, borrow, buy, steal and as a last resort, write it yourself.
(I think we have 8 cpus running popper and 4 running my pop-proxy,
but they don't let me near the mail system because its linux and
needs handholding by penguin fetishists.)
Peter
----*
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Remember The 5 K's. The Justified Agents of Munya-munya-muuuu ...
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 16:30:18 +0000
From: Wallace Nicoll <wallace.nicoll at edinburgh.gov dot uk>
Subject: ERR - Too many arguments for the user command
Hi,
One of our LAN users is experiencing
ERR - Too many arguments for the user command
since they messed around with the settings ... ****** users (8-)).
Account setup looks OK. Error also appears in the qpopper logfile, along with
the line ...
EOF from at [IP address]: [0] 9 (Bad file number); 0 (error 0)
Before we delete and recreate their account and email software installation, has
anyone else seen this, and can explain the cause? It's not in the latest FAQ.
Outlook Express on NT
qpopper 3.0.2 on Solaris 2.6
Thanks.
Wallace.
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City of Edinburgh Council IT Services,
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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:51:08 -0500 (EST)
From: Greg <gregt at longwood.lwc dot edu>
Subject: qpopper 3.1.2 install question
Hello,
I've just untarred, ./configure'd, and make'd qpopper.3.1.2 on an HP-UX
10.20 test machine. Everything worked like a charm (once I used gcc
instead of HP-UX's C compiler, that is).
Trouble started when I try to follow the same steps on 2 other HP-UX 10.20
machines. I get the following error when running ./configure:
./configure --enable-servermode --enable-specialauth
--enable-temp-drop-dir=/var/spool/poptemp --enable-keep-temp-drop
loading cache ./config.cache
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
checking for gcc... gcc
checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... no
configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot
create executables.
The only thing that's different is we're running gcc version 2.8.1 on
the test machine and version 2.95.2 on the two machines that won't
./configure.
Any ideas?
Greg
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 09:09:45 -0800
From: Leonard Hermens <Leonard.Hermens at rcity dot com>
Subject: Re: Introducing Qpopper LX
Does Eudora 5.1 currently support SSL? I thought that was future work.
Quoting from the qpopper LX manual:
"TLS/SSL allows all communications between Qpopper and an email client
which supports
TLS/SSL (such as Eudora) to be encrypted."
-- Leonard
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:23:45 +0000
From: Fergal Daly <fergal at esatclear dot ie>
Subject: Re: ERR - Too many arguments for the user command
Some email program is sending too many "words" when it is trying to log onto
the pop server. This would happen if a username somehow had a space in it.
If this isn't the case then I'd say you have a faulty email program
somewhere,
Fergal
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 04:30:18PM +0000, Wallace Nicoll wrote:
> Hi,
>
> One of our LAN users is experiencing
>
> ERR - Too many arguments for the user command
>
> since they messed around with the settings ... ****** users (8-)).
>
> Account setup looks OK. Error also appears in the qpopper logfile, along with
> the line ...
>
> EOF from at [IP address]: [0] 9 (Bad file number); 0 (error 0)
>
> Before we delete and recreate their account and email software installation, has
> anyone else seen this, and can explain the cause? It's not in the latest FAQ.
>
> Outlook Express on NT
> qpopper 3.0.2 on Solaris 2.6
>
> Thanks.
>
> Wallace.
>
> --
> ======================================================================
> Wallace Nicoll wallace at edinburgh.gov dot uk
> (Internet Services Team)
> City of Edinburgh Council IT Services,
> Chesser House, 500 Gorgie Road, Phone : 0131 469 5343
> Edinburgh, EH11 3YJ, Scotland Fax : 0131 469 5335
> [From overseas [P]+441314695343 [F]+441314695335 ]
> ======================================================================
>
--
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 12:25:42 -0500
From: Forrest Aldrich <forrie at forrie dot com>
Subject: Re: Introducing Qpopper LX
Eudora has to fix their IMAP bugs before they add more problems to the
picture. Egads.
At 09:09 AM 1/9/2001 -0800, Leonard Hermens wrote:
>Does Eudora 5.1 currently support SSL? I thought that was future work.
>
>Quoting from the qpopper LX manual:
>
>"TLS/SSL allows all communications between Qpopper and an email client
>which supports
>TLS/SSL (such as Eudora) to be encrypted."
>
>-- Leonard
>
From: "Marc Jacquard" <marcj at fujitsu dot com>
Subject: RE: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 08:03:06 -1000
Hey Martyn,
It is people like you that keep people from trying to get answers. I would
say that at the very least.....You are extremely rude and crude. I would
venture to say that you had many "STUPID" questions when you first started.
Maybe they should not let people like you on this list. You are just,
obviously, too smart for the rest of us!! Then again, I would say that you
probably just dug your own grave on this list!
Have a really lousy day!!!!!
Marc Jacquard
SR. Systems Engineer (CCSA)
High Performance Computing Group
Fujitsu America, INC.
Hilo Office
email: marcj at fujitsu dot com
Telephone: 808-934-4103
Pager: 888-787-5814
-----Original Message-----
From: InvictaNet Customer Support [mailto:support at invictanet.co dot uk]
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 1:38 AM
To: Sebastian Enders
Cc: Qpopper
Subject: RE: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
Dear Sebastien (and everybody else who wants to ask this question)
Read the F..... Manual (insert your own word starting with F)
http://www.eudora.com/qpopper/faq.html#canonical
This is probably the most asked question on this list and, therefore, the
biggest waste of time. It really would help if people read the FAQ/manual
before they post.
Martyn Routley
-----------------------------------------------------
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http://www.invictanet.co.uk
mailto:info at invictanet.co dot uk
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fax: 08707 440181
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sebastian Enders [mailto:enders at comvos dot de]
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 10:02 AM
To: Subscribers of Qpopper
Subject: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
Hi,
everytime someone will get mails I got the followig error message in my
/var/log/mail
>(v3.1) Unable to get canonical name of client 0.0.0.0: Unknown host (1)
does anybody know what is going wrong and how can i fix it?
Thanks a lot,
bye,
Sebastian
Mit freundlichen Gruessen,
Ihr COMVOS Team
Sebastian Enders
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Internet, Administration
0621 / 17891-18
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Mannheim, Germany Tel:0621/17891 -0
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From: "Vigilante, Anthony" <anthony.vigilante at corp.bellsouth dot net>
Subject: RE: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:38:38 -0500
I second your opinion!
-----Original Message-----
From: Marc Jacquard
To: InvictaNet Customer Support; Sebastian Enders
Cc: Qpopper
Sent: 1/9/01 1:03 PM
Subject: RE: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
Hey Martyn,
It is people like you that keep people from trying to get answers. I
would
say that at the very least.....You are extremely rude and crude. I
would
venture to say that you had many "STUPID" questions when you first
started.
Maybe they should not let people like you on this list. You are just,
obviously, too smart for the rest of us!! Then again, I would say that
you
probably just dug your own grave on this list!
Have a really lousy day!!!!!
Marc Jacquard
SR. Systems Engineer (CCSA)
High Performance Computing Group
Fujitsu America, INC.
Hilo Office
email: marcj at fujitsu dot com
Telephone: 808-934-4103
Pager: 888-787-5814
-----Original Message-----
From: InvictaNet Customer Support [mailto:support at invictanet.co dot uk]
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 1:38 AM
To: Sebastian Enders
Cc: Qpopper
Subject: RE: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
Dear Sebastien (and everybody else who wants to ask this question)
Read the F..... Manual (insert your own word starting with F)
http://www.eudora.com/qpopper/faq.html#canonical
This is probably the most asked question on this list and, therefore,
the
biggest waste of time. It really would help if people read the
FAQ/manual
before they post.
Martyn Routley
-----------------------------------------------------
InvictaNet - The Internet in Plain English, Guaranteed
http://www.invictanet.co.uk
mailto:info at invictanet.co dot uk
phone: 08707 440180
fax: 08707 440181
------------------------------------------------------
-----Original Message-----
From: Sebastian Enders [mailto:enders at comvos dot de]
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 10:02 AM
To: Subscribers of Qpopper
Subject: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
Hi,
everytime someone will get mails I got the followig error message in my
/var/log/mail
>(v3.1) Unable to get canonical name of client 0.0.0.0: Unknown host (1)
does anybody know what is going wrong and how can i fix it?
Thanks a lot,
bye,
Sebastian
Mit freundlichen Gruessen,
Ihr COMVOS Team
Sebastian Enders
------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Internet, Administration
0621 / 17891-18
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Mannheim, Germany Tel:0621/17891 -0
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:40:31 -0500
From: Jack Sasportas <jack at innovativeinternet dot com>
Subject: Re: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
The idea of being on a list, and HELPING others is to contribute...
When you ask a question someone contributes to help you, when you answer you
help them.
If you think they are stupid, and should RTFM then don't help, let someone
else do that rather then bring the negative of a newbie getting slammed and
feeling like they should never submit a question.
Additionally ( not in the case of qpopper for me ) there are many times I
have read manuals/docs/help files/how-to's and no matter what I do I can't
figure it out....sometimes it's a stupid thing, and others I stomp the
panel, either way I needed help at whatever technical level (
simple/complicated ) and posting has resulted in me being able to complete
the project.
Bottom line is, we all need help at one time or another and we don't want to
be told we are idiots when we do ask for it....yes some people never crack
open the readme it's true....but I give them the benefit of the doubt....
J
"Vigilante, Anthony" wrote:
> I second your opinion!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marc Jacquard
> To: InvictaNet Customer Support; Sebastian Enders
> Cc: Qpopper
> Sent: 1/9/01 1:03 PM
> Subject: RE: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
>
> Hey Martyn,
>
> It is people like you that keep people from trying to get answers. I
> would
> say that at the very least.....You are extremely rude and crude. I
> would
> venture to say that you had many "STUPID" questions when you first
> started.
> Maybe they should not let people like you on this list. You are just,
> obviously, too smart for the rest of us!! Then again, I would say that
> you
> probably just dug your own grave on this list!
>
> Have a really lousy day!!!!!
>
> Marc Jacquard
> SR. Systems Engineer (CCSA)
> High Performance Computing Group
> Fujitsu America, INC.
> Hilo Office
> email: marcj at fujitsu dot com
> Telephone: 808-934-4103
> Pager: 888-787-5814
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: InvictaNet Customer Support [mailto:support at invictanet.co dot uk]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 1:38 AM
> To: Sebastian Enders
> Cc: Qpopper
> Subject: RE: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
>
> Dear Sebastien (and everybody else who wants to ask this question)
>
> Read the F..... Manual (insert your own word starting with F)
>
> http://www.eudora.com/qpopper/faq.html#canonical
>
> This is probably the most asked question on this list and, therefore,
> the
> biggest waste of time. It really would help if people read the
> FAQ/manual
> before they post.
>
> Martyn Routley
> -----------------------------------------------------
> InvictaNet - The Internet in Plain English, Guaranteed
> http://www.invictanet.co.uk
> mailto:info at invictanet.co dot uk
> phone: 08707 440180
> fax: 08707 440181
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sebastian Enders [mailto:enders at comvos dot de]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 10:02 AM
> To: Subscribers of Qpopper
> Subject: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
>
> Hi,
> everytime someone will get mails I got the followig error message in my
> /var/log/mail
> >(v3.1) Unable to get canonical name of client 0.0.0.0: Unknown host (1)
> does anybody know what is going wrong and how can i fix it?
>
> Thanks a lot,
>
> bye,
> Sebastian
>
> Mit freundlichen Gruessen,
> Ihr COMVOS Team
>
> Sebastian Enders
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---
> Sebastian Enders enders at comvos dot de
> Internet, Administration
> 0621 / 17891-18
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---
> COMVOS online medien GmbH http://www.comvos.de/
> Mannheim, Germany Tel:0621/17891 -0
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---
--
___________________________________________________________
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Innovative Internet Solutions
Phone 305.665.2500
Fax 305.665.2551
www.innovativeinternet.com
www.web56.net
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 15:05:29 -0500
From: Mike Bell <mbell at miamisystems dot com>
Subject: Re: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
Not to fuel this even farther but, Martyn did include a link *directly*
to where the information is located. Perhaps the tone was a bit hasty
but the question was answered.
Mike
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: InvictaNet Customer Support [mailto:support at invictanet.co dot uk]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 1:38 AM
> > To: Sebastian Enders
> > Cc: Qpopper
> > Subject: RE: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
> >
> > Dear Sebastien (and everybody else who wants to ask this question)
> >
> > Read the F..... Manual (insert your own word starting with F)
> >
> > http://www.eudora.com/qpopper/faq.html#canonical
> >
> > This is probably the most asked question on this list and, therefore,
> > the
> > biggest waste of time. It really would help if people read the
> > FAQ/manual
> > before they post.
> >
> > Martyn Routley
--
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mbell at miamisystems dot com
419 342-3515 x279
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 21:01:43 +0100 (CET)
From: Michiel Boland <boland at carmel.diva dot nl>
Subject: RE: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, InvictaNet Customer Support wrote:
[rant snipped]
If you look better at Sebastian's mail you will find that popper is trying
to resolve the ip address 0.0.0.0. I don't think this particular problem
is covered by the faq at this moment.
Cheers
Michiel
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 12:30:31 -0800
From: Leonard Hermens <Leonard.Hermens at rcity dot com>
Subject: Re: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
Hello,
The most likely cause that I can think of is a broken client computer that
thinks that it's address is the default gateway, 0.0.0.0.
Does this happen for all clients that connect or just one? If it is only
one, then I would presume a broken client PC and not anything on the server.
For what it's worth...
-- Leonard
At 02:02 AM 1/9/2001, Sebastian Enders wrote:
>Hi,
>everytime someone will get mails I got the followig error message in my
>/var/log/mail
> >(v3.1) Unable to get canonical name of client 0.0.0.0: Unknown host (1)
>does anybody know what is going wrong and how can i fix it?
>
>Thanks a lot,
>
>bye,
>Sebastian
>
>
>Mit freundlichen Gruessen,
>Ihr COMVOS Team
>
>Sebastian Enders
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Sebastian Enders enders at comvos dot de
>Internet, Administration
>0621 / 17891-18
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>COMVOS online medien GmbH http://www.comvos.de/
>Mannheim, Germany Tel:0621/17891 -0
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:13:22 -0800
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: mysql patch in dist.?
At 10:34 AM -0500 1/9/01, Admin Mailing Lists wrote:
> Any idea when/if the mysql auth patch will get into the norm.
> distribution?
>
> -Tony
> .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
> Anthony J. Biacco Network Administrator/Engineer
> thelittleprince at asteroid-b612 dot org Intergrafix Internet Services
>
> "Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today"
> http://www.asteroid-b612.org http://www.intergrafix.net
> .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.
Has a patch been submitted? I don't see anything since last January.
--
Randall Gellens
Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only
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Computers ... are not designed, as we are, for ambiguity. --Thomas
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:17:44 -0800
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: RE: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
At 9:01 PM +0100 1/9/01, Michiel Boland wrote:
> popper is trying to resolve the ip address 0.0.0.0
There appears to be a bug in some versions of gcc on some platforms
that cause IP addresses to appear as "0.0.0.0" when in reality they
are non-zero. That's a separate issue than the reverse-lookup one.
From: "Chilvers, Ronan (UKI)" <ronan at ukinternet.co dot uk>
Subject: A comment
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:38:16 -0000
Hi everyone
I've just joined the qpopper list. I recently had the job of setting up an
email server at work. We provide a small number (30 odd) pop boxes to a
couple of clients for whom we built websites. I really enjoyed the process
of building the server (RH 6.2) and have found linux a very responsive,
reliable OS. I joined this list because I thought it would be a useful
resource. Unfortunately 50% of the mails I have read so far have been people
bickering and shouting at each other. I have found this with other lists
that I have joined, notably the Sussex (england) LUG. Are we intelligent
adults who can discuss common interests for the benefit of all of us or are
we not ? Doubtless I will recieve a storm of abuse in reply to this mail,
validating my sending it in the first place. Come on guys, where's the
spirit of the open source community ? NB : COMMUNITY ! ! ! !
Ronan
---------------------------------------
Ronan Chilvers
UK Internet Ltd
e: ronan at ukinternet.co dot uk
t: 01243 788 420
---------------------------------------
From: "Sebastian Enders" <enders at comvos dot de>
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:13:08 +0100
Subject: Re: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
Hi Leonard,
yes it happens for all clients and there is no error with the DNS Server. nslookup.... is working
well!
But thanks,
sebastian
> Hello,
>
> The most likely cause that I can think of is a broken client computer that
> thinks that it's address is the default gateway, 0.0.0.0.
>
> Does this happen for all clients that connect or just one? If it is only
> one, then I would presume a broken client PC and not anything on the server.
>
> For what it's worth...
>
> -- Leonard
>
> At 02:02 AM 1/9/2001, Sebastian Enders wrote:
> >Hi,
> >everytime someone will get mails I got the followig error message in my
> >/var/log/mail
> > >(v3.1) Unable to get canonical name of client 0.0.0.0: Unknown host (1)
> >does anybody know what is going wrong and how can i fix it?
> >
> >Thanks a lot,
> >
> >bye,
> >Sebastian
From: "Sebastian Enders" <enders at comvos dot de>
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:30:10 +0100
Subject: RE: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
Hi Martyn,
if you would read my mail exactly, you would see that my specified Problem is not answered with the
FAQ. It descirbes only the problem when qpopper has problems to convert the ip Address into a
domain name. But this is not the problem here.
In my opinion, qpopper is getting from every client ip adress 0.0.0.0, so of course he can not
convert the ip adress, so the error appears.
But the question is why he is getting the ip adress 0.0.0.0
Other programs are working fine, also the adress conversion!
So there must be another problem, I can not see!
Martyn, you can be sure that I have read the FAQ before I asked this question!
Best regards,
Sebastian Enders
> Dear Sebastien (and everybody else who wants to ask this question)
>
> Read the F..... Manual (insert your own word starting with F)
>
> http://www.eudora.com/qpopper/faq.html#canonical
>
>
> This is probably the most asked question on this list and, therefore, the
> biggest waste of time. It really would help if people read the FAQ/manual
> before they post.
>
>
> Martyn Routley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sebastian Enders [mailto:enders at comvos dot de]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 10:02 AM
> To: Subscribers of Qpopper
> Subject: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
>
>
> Hi,
> everytime someone will get mails I got the followig error message in my
> /var/log/mail
> >(v3.1) Unable to get canonical name of client 0.0.0.0: Unknown host (1)
> does anybody know what is going wrong and how can i fix it?
>
> Thanks a lot,
>
> bye,
> Sebastian
>
>
> Mit freundlichen Gruessen,
> Ihr COMVOS Team
>
> Sebastian Enders
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Sebastian Enders enders at comvos dot de
> Internet, Administration
> 0621 / 17891-18
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> COMVOS online medien GmbH http://www.comvos.de/
> Mannheim, Germany Tel:0621/17891 -0
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
From: "Sebastian Enders" <enders at comvos dot de>
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:35:18 +0100
Subject: RE: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
Hi Michiel,
> At 9:01 PM +0100 1/9/01, Michiel Boland wrote:
>
> > popper is trying to resolve the ip address 0.0.0.0
>
> There appears to be a bug in some versions of gcc on some platforms
> that cause IP addresses to appear as "0.0.0.0" when in reality they
> are non-zero. That's a separate issue than the reverse-lookup one.
This would be a very likely description of this problem.
But do you now, which gcc version is wrong? I am using the current version of SuSE Linux 7.0
Best regards,
Sebastian Enders
Mit freundlichen Gruessen,
Ihr COMVOS Team
Sebastian Enders
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 00:37:59 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Alan Brown <alan at manawatu.gen dot nz>
Subject: Re: A comment
We all get sick of people asking FAQs
and yelling at people to RTFM/RTFAQ when they ask FAQs might upset them,
but they also seldom ask such questions without consulting those
documents first.
Flaming is a time honoured net tradition dating back 30 years. It's not
going to stop with the current horde of basically clueless newbies being
tossed in the deep end seeking assistance.
AB
From: "Sebastian Enders" <enders at comvos dot de>
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:45:16 +0100
Subject: RE: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
> At 9:01 PM +0100 1/9/01, Michiel Boland wrote:
>
> > popper is trying to resolve the ip address 0.0.0.0
>
> There appears to be a bug in some versions of gcc on some platforms
> that cause IP addresses to appear as "0.0.0.0" when in reality they
> are non-zero. That's a separate issue than the reverse-lookup one.
>
Hi,
i am again :)
I am using gcc version 2.95.2!
Is with this version any problem acknowledged?
Is anybody using the same version?
Best regards,
Sebastian Enders
Mit freundlichen Gruessen,
Ihr COMVOS Team
Sebastian Enders
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:10:26 +0000
From: peter.allen at moon-light.co dot uk
Subject: Re: A comment
Can't somebody kill this thread or re-direct it somewhere else ?
At 00:37 11/01/2001 +1300, you wrote:
>
>We all get sick of people asking FAQs
>
>and yelling at people to RTFM/RTFAQ when they ask FAQs might upset them,
>but they also seldom ask such questions without consulting those
>documents first.
>
>Flaming is a time honoured net tradition dating back 30 years. It's not
>going to stop with the current horde of basically clueless newbies being
>tossed in the deep end seeking assistance.
>
>AB
>
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 21:17:02 +0800
From: Yung-Ta Hsu <arda at mail.educities.edu dot tw>
Subject: procmail not sending mail into hash dir?
Hi,
I'm trying to transfer my users' mail into hash dir, so I install
procmail to replace mail.local, change the src/authenticate.c in
procmail source to define MAILSPOOLHASH=1
and change my sendmail.cf Mlocal to:
Mlocal, P=/usr/local/bin/procmail, F=lsDFMAw5:/|@qSPfhn9,
S=EnvFromL/HdrFromL, R=EnvToL/HdrToL,T=DNS/RFC822/X-Unix,
A=procmail -Y -a $h -d $u
restart sendmail
but why the mail still sending into /var/mail/user not /var/mail/u/user?
anything I missing?
(My Platform: Sun Solaris 8 x86, Sendmail-8.11.0, procmail-3.15)
--
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Tech. Dept. Manager of EduCities
Learning Technology Research Center, National Central University
No. 38, Wu-Chuan Li, Chung-Li, Tao-Yuan, Taiwan 320, R.O.C.
Tel: +886-3-4227151 ext.4818
Fax: +886-3-4261931
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Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 15:11:39 +0000
From: Fergal Daly <fergal at esatclear dot ie>
Subject: Re: procmail not sending mail into hash dir?
I'm not trying to be nasty to a newcomer (if you are a newcomer) but this is
the qpopper mailing list, so questions about procmail and sendmail are off
topic and should be asked on a procmail or a sendmail list. Maybe someone on
this list will be able to help you but you'll get the answer much quicker if
you ask the question on the correct list,
Fergal
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 09:17:02PM +0800, Yung-Ta Hsu wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to transfer my users' mail into hash dir, so I install
> procmail to replace mail.local, change the src/authenticate.c in
> procmail source to define MAILSPOOLHASH=1
>
> and change my sendmail.cf Mlocal to:
> Mlocal, P=/usr/local/bin/procmail, F=lsDFMAw5:/|@qSPfhn9,
> S=EnvFromL/HdrFromL, R=EnvToL/HdrToL,T=DNS/RFC822/X-Unix,
> A=procmail -Y -a $h -d $u
>
> restart sendmail
>
> but why the mail still sending into /var/mail/user not /var/mail/u/user?
>
> anything I missing?
>
>
> (My Platform: Sun Solaris 8 x86, Sendmail-8.11.0, procmail-3.15)
>
>
> --
> Yung-Ta Hsu (ARDA)
> Tech. Dept. Manager of EduCities
> Learning Technology Research Center, National Central University
> No. 38, Wu-Chuan Li, Chung-Li, Tao-Yuan, Taiwan 320, R.O.C.
> Tel: +886-3-4227151 ext.4818
> Fax: +886-3-4261931
> mailto:arda at src.ncu.edu.tw, http://residence.educities.edu dot tw/arda/
--
From: "InvictaNet Customer Support" <support at invictanet.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: A comment
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 16:11:08 -0000
Ronan
As one of the "offenders", my main reason is this:
So many people do not bother to read manuals or FAQs, they simply bash out
an email because it is easy and quick. However, most of these questions can
be answered quickly by doing the research. You may not think that important,
but when you subscribe to a large number of mailling lists as I do,
receiving 100s of rubbish messages a day from these mailling lists is very
annoying.
If anybody feels insulted by my posts - tough, they should all be adult
enough to realise that I am not insulting anybody personally, I just do not
like receiving unnecessary email.
Anyway, to get this message back on to the subject of Qpopper....
Does anyone else think that it is a bit odd to sell beta software??? When
Qpopper LX is released as final, I may well buy a copy. While it is still in
test mode and unfinished, no chance.
Martyn Routley
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-----Original Message-----
From: Chilvers, Ronan (UKI) [mailto:ronan at ukinternet.co dot uk]
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 9:38 AM
To: Subscribers of Qpopper
Subject: A comment
Hi everyone
I've just joined the qpopper list. I recently had the job of setting up an
email server at work. We provide a small number (30 odd) pop boxes to a
couple of clients for whom we built websites. I really enjoyed the process
of building the server (RH 6.2) and have found linux a very responsive,
reliable OS. I joined this list because I thought it would be a useful
resource. Unfortunately 50% of the mails I have read so far have been people
bickering and shouting at each other. I have found this with other lists
that I have joined, notably the Sussex (england) LUG. Are we intelligent
adults who can discuss common interests for the benefit of all of us or are
we not ? Doubtless I will recieve a storm of abuse in reply to this mail,
validating my sending it in the first place. Come on guys, where's the
spirit of the open source community ? NB : COMMUNITY ! ! ! !
Ronan
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Ronan Chilvers
UK Internet Ltd
e: ronan at ukinternet.co dot uk
t: 01243 788 420
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From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at mpiua dot com>
Subject: /var/spool/mqueue ?
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:30:42 -0500
Hello,
Can someone tell me about files in this directory /var/spool/mqueue? Does
this have to do with Qpopper or Sendmail? I had some HUGE files in there
today that killed my server because it ran out of disk space. I think this
is where incoming mail is spooled?
any help appreciated!
~David Andrews
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:16:33 -0500 (EST)
From: "A. M. Salim" <salim at localweb dot com>
Subject: Re: /var/spool/mqueue ?
> Can someone tell me about files in this directory /var/spool/mqueue?
> Does this have to do with Qpopper or Sendmail? I had some HUGE files
> in there today that killed my server because it ran out of disk space.
> I think this is where incoming mail is spooled?
this is where OUTGOING mail is spooled by sendmail. Someone was sending
HUGE files through your system. You can usually tell more by looking at
the files with "similar" filenames, theyb start with different letters but
the rest of the filename is the same. The smaller files hold the info on
whodunnit.
best regards
Mike
Subject: Re: /var/spool/mqueue ?
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:54:54 +0100 (MET)
From: Georg Schwarz <schwarz at physik.tu-berlin dot de>
> Hello,
>
> Can someone tell me about files in this directory /var/spool/mqueue? Does
> this have to do with Qpopper or Sendmail? I had some HUGE files in there
> today that killed my server because it ran out of disk space. I think th=
is
> is where incoming mail is spooled?
>
to my knowledge, on most systems this is where outgoing mail gets spooled.
--
Georg Schwarz schwarz at physik.tu-berlin dot de
Institut für Theoretische Physik Tel. +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130
Technische Universität Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/
Sekr. PN 7-1, Hardenbergstr. 36, D-10623 Berlin IRC: kuroi
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:03:04 -0800
From: Leonard Hermens <Leonard.Hermens at rcity dot com>
Subject: Re: /var/spool/mqueue ?
Hi David,
That directory is used by sendmail, on Solaris at least, as a temporary
storage for email enroute to its final destination (which may be a user's
local mailbox or another server).
It is not used by Qpopper.
-- Leonard
At 08:30 AM 1/10/2001, David Andrews wrote:
>Hello,
>
>Can someone tell me about files in this directory /var/spool/mqueue? Does
>this have to do with Qpopper or Sendmail? I had some HUGE files in there
>today that killed my server because it ran out of disk space. I think this
>is where incoming mail is spooled?
>
>any help appreciated!
>
>~David Andrews
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:00:28 -0800
From: Leonard Hermens <Leonard.Hermens at rcity dot com>
Subject: RE: A comment
Tip of the day:
Politely refer people to the relevant section of the FAQ, manual, README or
whatever. This serves two purposes: 1) we don't come off as arrogant jerks
and 2) the person asking the question is referred to (a) the answer they
need and (b) the rest of the documentation that they should have read to
begin with. Nobody gets hurt.
Those who have ever subscribed to, for example, the ISC DHCP mailing list
(http://www.isc.org) will find a group of people who are very tolerant and
polite, yet firm with their replies to even the most inane questions. That
is my model for a mailing list. Maybe we can make this list just as civil.
I would like to think so.
-- Leonard
At 08:11 AM 1/10/2001, InvictaNet Customer Support wrote:
>Ronan
>
>As one of the "offenders", my main reason is this:
>
>So many people do not bother to read manuals or FAQs, they simply bash out
>an email because it is easy and quick. However, most of these questions can
>be answered quickly by doing the research.
>[...]
From: "Sebastian Enders" <enders at comvos dot de>
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 18:07:29 +0100
Subject: RE: qpopper error message in /var/log/mail
> According to what Derrick said, yes, if you are using gcc 2.95.2 on
> SGI then this has the problem. He said:
>
> At 4:49 PM -0800 1/9/01, Derrick MacPherson wrote:
> > SGI with GCC 2.8.* or newer have this problem.
>
>
No i am using Linux on an intel based platform. No SGI!
Best regards,
Sebastian Enders
Mit freundlichen Gruessen,
Ihr COMVOS Team
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From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at mpiua dot com>
Subject: Another Question
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:13:54 -0500
Thanks all for the help regarding the var/spool/mqueue directory!
Another question - as a result of this problem locking my server (its all
now under control), I have a locked file in var/spool/mail/.username.pop.
How do I go about deleting this file? The rm command doesn't seem to do it?
The user can not get mail because of this.
Again, your help is GREATLY appreciated, if I could buy you all a nice cold
one I would :)
~David Andrews
-----Original Message-----
From: A. M. Salim [mailto:salim at localweb dot com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 12:17 PM
To: Subscribers of Qpopper
Subject: Re: /var/spool/mqueue ?
> Can someone tell me about files in this directory /var/spool/mqueue?
> Does this have to do with Qpopper or Sendmail? I had some HUGE files
> in there today that killed my server because it ran out of disk space.
> I think this is where incoming mail is spooled?
this is where OUTGOING mail is spooled by sendmail. Someone was sending
HUGE files through your system. You can usually tell more by looking at
the files with "similar" filenames, theyb start with different letters but
the rest of the filename is the same. The smaller files hold the info on
whodunnit.
best regards
Mike
From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at mpiua dot com>
Subject: RE: /var/spool/mqueue ?
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:53:11 -0500
>>to my knowledge, on most systems this is where outgoing mail gets spooled.
Yes, apparently this is a sendmail issue. Thanks, i'll seek help in a
sendmail group.
~David
-----Original Message-----
From: Georg Schwarz [mailto:schwarz at physik.tu-berlin dot de]
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 11:55 AM
To: David Andrews
Cc: Subscribers of Qpopper
Subject: Re: /var/spool/mqueue ?
> Hello,
>
> Can someone tell me about files in this directory /var/spool/mqueue? Does
> this have to do with Qpopper or Sendmail? I had some HUGE files in there
> today that killed my server because it ran out of disk space. I think
this
> is where incoming mail is spooled?
>
to my knowledge, on most systems this is where outgoing mail gets spooled.
--
Georg Schwarz schwarz at physik.tu-berlin dot de
Institut für Theoretische Physik Tel. +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130
Technische Universität Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/
Sekr. PN 7-1, Hardenbergstr. 36, D-10623 Berlin IRC: kuroi
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:16:37 -0500 (EST)
From: "A. M. Salim" <salim at localweb dot com>
Subject: Re: Another Question
Hi,
> Another question - as a result of this problem locking my server (its
> all now under control), I have a locked file in
> var/spool/mail/.username.pop. How do I go about deleting this file?
> The rm command doesn't seem to do it? The user can not get mail
> because of this.
Do not delete the file willy nilly! (or you could lose some emails much to
your user's chagrin).
the file is locked by popper (pop3d). There may also be a file named
username.lock in /var/spool/mail
First do a "ps" command
ps awxu|grep pop3
This will identify the pop3d process that is the locked users's.
Then kill that process (kill -9 PID#) where PID# is the process ID number
Do not do a "killall pop3d" ! Only kill that user's pop3d
then you should check the file "/var/spool/mail/username" and if it is of
non-zero size, then some emails came in since the lock happened. Execute
these commands:
cd /var/spool/mail
cat username >> .username.pop
mv .username.pop username
rm username.lock
that should do it.
best regards
Mike Salim
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:06:33 -0500
From: Theresa M Peter <theresa at email.uc dot edu>
Subject: Re: /var/spool/mqueue ?
There are two, sometimes four types of files found in this
directory. Files that begin with df contain the actual body of the
message. Files that begin with qf contain the internet headers of the
message. The other two types of files (xf and tf files) I have only seen
around when sendmail is actually processing the message.
Files that are in this directory are used by the sendmail process. You can
control the size of the message that sendmail will accept by editing the
sendmail.cf file. Specifically you want to edit the "MaxMessageSize" flag.
We have set our max message size to 7100000. This allows a normal message
with an attachment that is ~5MB. We chose this number bc our mbox soft
quota is 5 MB.
At 11:30 AM 1/10/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>Can someone tell me about files in this directory /var/spool/mqueue? Does
>this have to do with Qpopper or Sendmail? I had some HUGE files in there
>today that killed my server because it ran out of disk space. I think this
>is where incoming mail is spooled?
>
>any help appreciated!
>
>~David Andrews