The worldmail list archive ending on 5 Oct 1999
Topics covered in this issue include:
1. Re: Worldmail user restriction problem
Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:53:50 -0700
2. Re: Here is another interesting problem regarding the IMS.
Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:09:36 -0700
3. SMTPD takes up 100% processor
"Al Musella, DPM" <musella at virtualtrials dot com>
Sun, 01 Aug 1999 12:03:47 -0400
4. Worldmail = junk
gnews9 at ithaca dot com (Garry W)
Mon, 09 Aug 1999 04:28:52 GMT
5. Re: Worldmail = junk
"Al Musella, DPM" <musella at virtualtrials dot com>
Mon, 09 Aug 1999 14:46:20 -0400
6. Problems with NIBL
Mathew Lincoln <lincoln at harrisrothenberg dot com>
Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:22:56 -0400
7. Re: Problems with NIBL
Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:53:51 -0700
8. How can I make Worldmail return an error message?
Garry Wiegand <squeezix at ithaca dot com>
Wed, 18 Aug 1999 01:31:22 -0700
9. Re: How can I make Worldmail return an error message?
William Hultman <whultman at eudora dot com>
Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:45:12 -0700
10. Re: How can I make Worldmail return an error message?
squeezix at ithaca dot com (Garry Wiegand)
Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:53:09 GMT
11. Re: How can I make Worldmail return an error message?
Henry Avetisyan <henry at jps dot net>
Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:49:25 -0700
12. Re: How can I make Worldmail return an error message?
squeezix at ithaca dot com (Garry W)
Thu, 19 Aug 1999 10:29:58 GMT
13. Re: XTND XMIT
Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:36:55 -0700
14. command line interface
hiro <hiro_protagonist at dracona dot com>
Sat, 21 Aug 1999 09:18:55 -0700
15. Re: command line interface
Henry Avetisyan <henry at jps dot net>
Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:32:54 -0700
16. Re: command line interface
squeezix at ithaca dot com (Garry W)
Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:57:48 GMT
17. Problems with NIBL
Mathew Lincoln <lincoln at harrisrothenberg dot com>
Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:14:29 -0400
18. Distribution Lists
Darren Seay <dseay at mendocino.cc.ca dot us>
Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:34:40 -0800
19. Re: Problems with NIBL
Henry Avetisyan <henry at jps dot net>
Thu, 26 Aug 1999 22:33:41 -0700
20. Re: Distribution Lists
Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Fri, 27 Aug 1999 16:50:19 -0700
21. Re: Distribution Lists
hiro <hiro_protagonist at dracona dot com>
Sat, 28 Aug 1999 08:31:46 -0700
22. [Off Subject] Change Password
Darren Seay <dseay at mendocino.cc.ca dot us>
Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:30:39 -0800
23. Re: SMTPD takes up 100% processor
"Al Musella, DPM" <musella at virtualtrials dot com>
Wed, 01 Sep 1999 09:23:58 -0400
24. Re: [Off Subject] Change Password
Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Wed, 1 Sep 1999 18:20:03 -0700
25. RE: Distribution Lists
"Mike Hahn" <hahnmt at zender dot com>
Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:02:39 -0400
26. RE: Distribution Lists
Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:38:35 -0700
27. Re: Distribution Lists
"Gregory J. Hickel" <ghickel at crowderscoggins dot com>
Thu, 2 Sep 1999 14:47:20 -0500
28. RE: Distribution Lists
"Mike Hahn" <hahnmt at zender dot com>
Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:07:37 -0400
29. Company signature ?
Suhad <suhad at alshaya dot com>
Sat, 04 Sep 1999 08:08:03 +0300
30. Can Worldmail do SMTP authentication?
Garry Wiegand <squeezix at ithaca dot com>
Sun, 05 Sep 1999 00:15:56 -0700
31. Re: Can Worldmail do SMTP authentication?
Henry Avetisyan <henry at jps dot net>
Sun, 05 Sep 1999 11:31:08 -0700
32. LDAP issue
rxbrown <rxbrown at ix.netcom dot com>
Tue, 07 Sep 1999 10:03:02 -0700
33. Testing WorldMail
Mathew Lincoln <is at harrisrothenberg dot com>
Tue, 07 Sep 1999 14:43:42 -0400
34. Re: Can Worldmail do SMTP authentication?
Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:06:15 -0700
35. Re: Testing WorldMail
Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:15:19 -0700
36. Re: SMTPD takes up 100% processor
Henry Avetisyan <henry at jps dot net>
Tue, 07 Sep 1999 23:03:40 -0700
37. Re: Company signature ?
Henry Avetisyan <henry at jps dot net>
Tue, 07 Sep 1999 23:09:18 -0700
38. Re: SMTPD takes up 100% processor
"Al Musella, DPM" <musella at virtualtrials dot com>
Wed, 08 Sep 1999 09:59:04 -0400
39. RE: SMTPD takes up 100% processor
"Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Wed, 8 Sep 1999 22:27:08 +0100
40. Re: SMTPD takes up 100% processor
Henry Avetisyan <henry at jps dot net>
Wed, 08 Sep 1999 23:59:52 -0700
41. RE: How can I make Worldmail return an error message?
"Gary Hunter" <ghunter at ibm dot net>
Sun, 3 Oct 1999 12:11:21 +1000
42. SMPT Message Relay
"Lee Nicholls" <LeeN at advancedgroup.co dot uk>
Mon, 04 Oct 1999 12:51:43 +0100
43. RE: SMTP Message Relay
"Mike Hahn" <hahnmt at zender dot com>
Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:39:59 -0400
44. Re: SMPT Message Relay
"Al Musella, DPM" <musella at virtualtrials dot com>
Mon, 04 Oct 1999 13:00:33 -0400
45. Re: SMPT Message Relay
William Hultman <whultman at eudora dot com>
Mon, 04 Oct 1999 10:52:41 -0700
46. Hello Everyone!
Ric Wall <ric_wall at informatixinc dot com>
Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:45:44 -0700
47. re "list is hard to find"
Ric Wall <ric_wall at informatixinc dot com>
Mon, 04 Oct 1999 23:47:03 -0700
48. Re: SMPT Message Relay
"Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Tue, 5 Oct 1999 08:01:14 +0100
49. Eudora Attachment
Suhad AL-Khaldi <suhad at alshaya dot com>
Tue, 05 Oct 1999 10:13:06 +0300
50. RE: re "list is hard to find"
"Mike Hahn" <hahnmt at zender dot com>
Tue, 5 Oct 1999 10:58:29 -0400
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:53:50 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Worldmail user restriction problem
At 1:28 PM -0400 7/13/99, Jim Sullivan wrote:
>MS Exchange Server allows the administrator to turn off the ability of
>individual users from receiving Internet mail and/or attachments while
>maintaining Intranet email communications. I need to do this for a group
>of users within my organization while keeping them in the same domain. Is
>there a way to do this via Worldmail 2.0?
The only way to do this would be to write a WorldMail plug-in.
Either IMSFA or IMDA can be used.
Probably IMDA would be easier for you. In your case, the plug-in
would be a C DLL that is passed incoming messages. It would examine
the headers, and if the originator of the message is not local, or
the message contained an attachment, you'd return a code that
instructed WorldMail to bounce the message. Otherwise you'd return a
code that indicated everything was fine. You would then install the
IMDA plug-in, and configure certain users so that mail destined for
them was passed through the plug-in.
There is documentation and an SDK on ISOCOR's web site <http://www.isocor.com>.
--
Randall Gellens
rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com
Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:09:36 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Here is another interesting problem regarding the IMS.
At 5:07 PM -0400 7/15/99, Jim Sullivan wrote:
>
>To make a long story shorter... I found that the user's mailbox .DAT
>file was corrupted. I removed all of the files from the User's
>mailbox and then let the user logon to the server. No more problems
>for the user (except for the fact that he would like his old
>messages back in his mailbox. Does anyone know how to insert files
>back into a mailbox folder without corrupting the .DAT file?
>(insert possible answer #3 here :)
First, I'd shut everything down and run a good disk scanning program.
I've seen problem like this when a disk was going bad. Next thing, I
had corrupted files everywhere and a mess. It could be an isolated
incident, but it's better to be safe.
--
Randall Gellens
rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com
Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 12:03:47 -0400
From: "Al Musella, DPM" <musella at virtualtrials dot com>
Subject: SMTPD takes up 100% processor
I have an occasional problem where the SMTPD.exe service takes up 100% of
the cpu time, which causes the server to become unresponsive.
When I look at the task manager, I would see SMTPD.EXE with 90-100% of
the CPU, and the CPU time would be , for example, 10 hours. (This is at a
time when the server was running only a few days since last reboot)I can't
stop SMTPD.EXE - the only way to fix it is a reboot. Then it goes back to
normal.
It is under a very light load - about 25 users. No lists.
When things go well, like now for example, the server was running for a
week. SMTPD.exe only used up 50 seconds of CPU time.
I called eudora tech support 3 times on this, and they never heard of it or
had any ideas how to prevent it.
Has anyone else seen this?
The machine is a Dell poweredge 2200 server, 300mhz, 128 meg ram, NT server
4.0, service pack 5. Plenty of free disk space. The only other thing
running on the machine is a website log reporting tool.
Al Musella
Musella Foundation
From: gnews9 at ithaca dot com (Garry W)
Subject: Worldmail = junk
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 04:28:52 GMT
Hi all -
I've been using Worldmail for about two weeks now, and I am extremely =
unhappy
with it.
I needed to improve on the freeware that I had been using, I didn't want =
to
spend $500 for mail server software for a home system, and Eudora has a =
good
reputation. So I thought I'd try Worldmail, hoping that it was also a =
good
product.
I found that it's unstable and feature-poor, and that this morning it
committed the biggest network e-mail mess I have ever seen. I will be =
polite
and refrain from using vulgarities, or going into detail, but the mess =
had to
do with about 40 people being sent about one thousand copies apiece of a
single e-mail message.
So, I need to throw this software (and my investment in it) away as =
quickly
as possible. Since it takes work to switch, I'd rather switch right away =
to
something new that works, rather than back to the old and then to =
something
new.
My question: do you all have suggestions for a product I can replace it =
with,
or any product in particular to avoid? I'm running WinNT, dial-up, I have
about 6 users and 4 mailing lists to manage. I'd like to spend less than =
$200
(again.)
thanks,
Garry
PS - For my simple needs I could code most of what I need with about 2 =
days'
work. But I had been hoping to avoid that.
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 14:46:20 -0400
From: "Al Musella, DPM" <musella at virtualtrials dot com>
Subject: Re: Worldmail = junk
Worldmail is useless for mailing lists.
I found it is easier to go to Onelist.com and use their service for
mailing lists. You can use a free variety, with their ad on each message,
or pay about $50 a year with no ads.
If you go that way, you may be able to use worldmail for the 6 users
you already have. I run it with about 25 users, and although once in a
while it does get stuck, works good most of the time.
Al Musella
At 04:28 AM 8/9/99 +0000, Garry W wrote:
>Hi all -
>
>I've been using Worldmail for about two weeks now, and I am extremely unhappy
>with it.
>
>I needed to improve on the freeware that I had been using, I didn't want to
>spend $500 for mail server software for a home system, and Eudora has a good
>reputation. So I thought I'd try Worldmail, hoping that it was also a good
>product.
>
>I found that it's unstable and feature-poor, and that this morning it
>committed the biggest network e-mail mess I have ever seen. I will be polite
>and refrain from using vulgarities, or going into detail, but the mess had to
>do with about 40 people being sent about one thousand copies apiece of a
>single e-mail message.
>
>So, I need to throw this software (and my investment in it) away as quickly
>as possible. Since it takes work to switch, I'd rather switch right away to
>something new that works, rather than back to the old and then to something
>new.
>
>My question: do you all have suggestions for a product I can replace it with,
>or any product in particular to avoid? I'm running WinNT, dial-up, I have
>about 6 users and 4 mailing lists to manage. I'd like to spend less than $200
>(again.)
>
>thanks,
>
>Garry
>
>PS - For my simple needs I could code most of what I need with about 2 days'
>work. But I had been hoping to avoid that.
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:22:56 -0400
From: Mathew Lincoln <lincoln at harrisrothenberg dot com>
Subject: Problems with NIBL
My company has been trying to copy Worldmail from an NT server to an NT
Workstation. We had installed Worldmail on the new computer and copied the
registry settings, as well as the entire Worldmail folder.
This didn't work. We tried the NIBL utility, but it won't export properly
from the server. It gives an "abnormal program termination" message.
Interestingly, it does export on the new computer.
Any advice or explanation of this problem would be much appreciated.
Mathew Lincoln
Harris, Rothenberg Intl.
lincoln at harrisrothenberg dot com
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:53:51 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Problems with NIBL
At 3:22 PM -0400 8/16/99, Mathew Lincoln wrote:
>My company has been trying to copy Worldmail from an NT server to an
>NT Workstation. We had installed Worldmail on the new computer and
>copied the registry settings, as well as the entire Worldmail folder.
>
>This didn't work. We tried the NIBL utility, but it won't export
>properly from the server. It gives an "abnormal program termination"
>message. Interestingly, it does export on the new computer.
>
>Any advice or explanation of this problem would be much appreciated.
>
>Mathew Lincoln
>Harris, Rothenberg Intl.
>lincoln at harrisrothenberg dot com
The registry settings include the name of the computer, so if the
computers have different names, this won't work.
NIBL should work. Try running NIBL with WorldMail Protocol Trace set
to "verbose all" and see if anything interesting shows up.
--
Randall Gellens
rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com
Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 01:31:22 -0700
From: Garry Wiegand <squeezix at ithaca dot com>
Subject: How can I make Worldmail return an error message?
Hi -
Yes, I'm still using Worldmail, despite my unhappiness. Upshot of the
previous disaster was about 5 extra-angry people and two crashed servers at
ISPs somewhere out there. One of the crashed servers never did come back
on-line. Good score for Worldmail.
I have a new question. When Worldmail receives an SMTP message addressed to
a local user who does not exist, is there any way to persuade Worldmail to
return an error to the sender?
Here's what I've tried -
-- If for example I send to "quack" at ithaca.com, Worldmail accepts the
message. Worldmail is in complete control of ithaca.com, and the name
"quack" does not exist in the domain. So I wish that it would reject the
message at the RCPT stage, but unfortunately it doesn't. (Is there any
setting I can change?)
-- Then, if Configure / Domain / General / Where to Forward Undeliverable
Mail / Mailbox / E-Mail Address is blank, an error message is sent to the
postmaster, and no error is returned to the sender.
-- Or, if Configure / Domain / General / Where to Forward Undeliverable
Mail / Mailbox / E-Mail Address is not blank and is the address of an
"Unknown-Address" message store user, an error message is put in that
message store, and no error is returned to the sender.
-- If I configure that "Unknown-Address" message store to generate an
auto-reply, and mail directly to that address, the auto-reply works fine.
But if instead a message arrives in that message store by means of the
above setting, Worldmail fails generate the auto-reply, and so no error is
returned to the sender.
-- If in desperation I configure that Undeliverable-Mail address to be a
*mailing list* which points to the autoreply user, Worldmail sends the
error message to postmaster, and no error is returned to the sender.
Is there any earthly way to make this stupid program not accept mail to
invalid users or, alternatively, to return an error message?
Thank you.
Garry
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:45:12 -0700
From: William Hultman <whultman at eudora dot com>
Subject: Re: How can I make Worldmail return an error message?
At 01:31 AM 8/18/99 -0700, Garry Wiegand wrote:
>I have a new question. When Worldmail receives an SMTP message addressed
>to a local user who does not exist, is there any way to persuade Worldmail
>to return an error to the sender?
>
>Here's what I've tried -
>
>-- If for example I send to "quack" at ithaca.com, Worldmail accepts the
>message. Worldmail is in complete control of ithaca.com, and the name
>"quack" does not exist in the domain. So I wish that it would reject the
>message at the RCPT stage, but unfortunately it doesn't. (Is there any
>setting I can change?)
>
>-- Then, if Configure / Domain / General / Where to Forward Undeliverable
>Mail / Mailbox / E-Mail Address is blank, an error message is sent to the
>postmaster, and no error is returned to the sender.
The above setting should cause WorldMail to reject the message. If it is
not, there must be another reason for it not to reject the message. A
protocol trace with SMTP set to Verbose would probably tell us what is
going on.
Bill
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<http://www.eudora.com>
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From: squeezix at ithaca dot com (Garry Wiegand)
Subject: Re: How can I make Worldmail return an error message?
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:53:09 GMT
Bill wrote:
>At 01:31 AM 8/18/99 -0700, Garry Wiegand wrote:
>>-- Then, if Configure / Domain / General / Where to Forward =
Undeliverable
>>Mail / Mailbox / E-Mail Address is blank, an error message is sent to =
the
>>postmaster, and no error is returned to the sender.
>
>The above setting should cause WorldMail to reject the message. If it is=
>not, there must be another reason for it not to reject the message.
I just tried it again. And now, it's properly rejecting the messages. =
It's
strange that it did not do it before. Possibly I had a stray blank or
something sitting in the field.
But now I'm happy. Thank you.
> A
>protocol trace with SMTP set to Verbose would probably tell us what is
>going on.
I hunted through the documentation but I don't see any hint of a full =
SMTP
trace option in Worldmail. It would be handy. Only component I saw that =
had a
full trace available was Directory Services/Internet Directory.
=46inally... if I'd known that Qualcomm was listening to the list I would=
have
been a bit more diplomatic when speaking of the product. Sorry about =
that.
Garry
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:49:25 -0700
From: Henry Avetisyan <henry at jps dot net>
Subject: Re: How can I make Worldmail return an error message?
The trace functionality is available in a separate program and not in
the Management Center. Look for Worldmail Protocol Trace in your Eudora
Worldmail menu group.
Henry
Garry Wiegand wrote:
>
> I hunted through the documentation but I don't see any hint of a full SMTP
> trace option in Worldmail. It would be handy. Only component I saw that had a
> full trace available was Directory Services/Internet Directory.
>
From: squeezix at ithaca dot com (Garry W)
Subject: Re: How can I make Worldmail return an error message?
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 10:29:58 GMT
Henry wrote:
>The trace functionality is available in a separate program and not in
>the Management Center. Look for Worldmail Protocol Trace in your Eudora
>Worldmail menu group.
Got it. Cool.
Non sequitur here -- I just ran across a feature I'd like to have in my =
mail
server: the "XTND XMIT" POP command, so that people on the road can send
their mail via the server without worrying their network path to the =
server.
(Alternative is to turn off all the security on SMTP relaying. But that's
Bad.)
Garry
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:36:55 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: XTND XMIT
At 10:29 AM +0000 8/19/99, Garry W wrote:
>I just ran across a feature I'd like to have in my mail
>server: the "XTND XMIT" POP command, so that people on the road can send
>their mail via the server without worrying their network path to the server.
>(Alternative is to turn off all the security on SMTP relaying. But that's
>Bad.)
Support for travelling users is something we are looking into for
future WorldMail releases. I think authenticated SMTP may be a
better solution that XTND XMIT, but we will consider supporting both.
--
Randall Gellens
rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com
Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 09:18:55 -0700
From: hiro <hiro_protagonist at dracona dot com>
Subject: command line interface
I'm trying to write a auto responder email cgi. I'm wondering if anybody
would know if there is a command line interface for worldmail server. If
there is what would be the equivilant to this unix path $mail_program
="/usr/sbin/sendmail -t";
Thanks.
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:32:54 -0700
From: Henry Avetisyan <henry at jps dot net>
Subject: Re: command line interface
The server does not have a command line interface.
You can either connect to port 25 within your program and send the
message using the smtp protocol, or you can create an rfc822-compliant
message with worldmail-specific smtp envelope information and deposit
that message (file) into the worldmail submission (maildir) directory to
be processed.
Henry
hiro wrote:
>
> I'm trying to write a auto responder email cgi. I'm wondering if anybody
> would know if there is a command line interface for worldmail server. If
> there is what would be the equivilant to this unix path $mail_program
> ="/usr/sbin/sendmail -t";
>
> Thanks.
From: squeezix at ithaca dot com (Garry W)
Subject: Re: command line interface
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:57:48 GMT
You wrote:
>The server does not have a command line interface.
>
>You can either connect to port 25 within your program and send the
>message using the smtp protocol, or you can create an rfc822-compliant
>message with worldmail-specific smtp envelope information and deposit
>that message (file) into the worldmail submission (maildir) directory to
>be processed.
There are various utility programs around, too... I've been using
http://www.green-bean.com/bcware/sendmail.htm, cost is $18, works well =
and
has a bunch of features. For some reason the Web page implies that it's
Windows-NT only, but I can't think of any reason that should be so. You =
might
check with the author.
Garry
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:14:29 -0400
From: Mathew Lincoln <lincoln at harrisrothenberg dot com>
Subject: Problems with NIBL
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I recently sent the message below to the list.
>
>My company has been trying to copy Worldmail from an NT server to an NT
Workstation. We had installed Worldmail on the new >computer and copied the
registry settings, as well as the entire Worldmail folder.
>
>This didn't work. We tried the NIBL utility, but it won't export properly
from the server. It gives an "abnormal program termination" >message.
Interestingly, it does export on the new computer.
>
Since then, I have tried a few things with NIBL to get it to export, but
not had any success. I did manage to get a little more information. Here's
what happened with nibl on verbose and debug on level 2.
D:\PROGRA~1\WORLDM~1\SMTP>nibl -d 2 -e -v
Please Enter Read Password ********
Started at 25 Aug 1999 13:16:23
ExportSMTP
ListAgents
ListSMTPConfig
ListSMTPAccess
ListGateways
ExportIMS
ListIMSConfig
ListMailGroups
abnormal program termination
And then it stopped. any ideas?
Mathew Lincoln
Harris, Rothenberg Intl.
lincoln at harrisrothenberg dot com
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<html>
I recently sent the message below to the list.<br>
><br>
>My company has been trying to copy Worldmail from an NT server to an
NT Workstation. We had installed Worldmail on the new >computer and
copied the registry settings, as well as the entire Worldmail folder.
<br>
><br>
>This didn't work. We tried the NIBL utility, but it won't export
properly from the server. It gives an "abnormal program
termination" >message. Interestingly, it does export on the new
computer.<br>
><br>
Since then, I have tried a few things with NIBL to get it to export, but
not had any success. I did manage to get a little more information.
Here's what happened with nibl on verbose and debug on level 2.<br>
<br>
<font face="Courier New, Courier">D:\PROGRA~1\WORLDM~1\SMTP>nibl -d 2
-e -v<br>
Please Enter Read Password ********<br>
Started at 25 Aug 1999 13:16:23<br>
ExportSMTP<br>
ListAgents<br>
ListSMTPConfig<br>
ListSMTPAccess<br>
ListGateways<br>
ExportIMS<br>
ListIMSConfig<br>
ListMailGroups<br>
<br>
abnormal program termination<br>
<br>
</font>And then it stopped. any ideas?<br>
<br>
Mathew Lincoln<br>
Harris, Rothenberg Intl.<br>
lincoln at harrisrothenberg dot com </html>
--=====================_9442295==_.ALT--
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:34:40 -0800
From: Darren Seay <dseay at mendocino.cc.ca dot us>
Subject: Distribution Lists
Hi All,
I've been having some problems using the distribution lists in World
Mail 2.0. It seems that no matter what setting I select for a list
type (Open, Closed, Automatic) I all requests are still forwarded to
the list owner. Also if when the owner subscribes someone I can not
get it to send the welcome message. I have check the files path
several times in the Welcome message location input box and it looks
correct. Any one experience these problems and find any solutions?
Thanks for any feedback,
Darren Seay
Computing Services
Mendocino College
http://www.mendocino.cc.ca.us
mailto://dseay at mendocino.cc.ca dot us
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 22:33:41 -0700
From: Henry Avetisyan <henry at jps dot net>
Subject: Re: Problems with NIBL
I would suggest to run Worldmail trace, enable the verbose level for
both SMTP and IMS, and see how far the NIBL program goes. Maybe it gets
to a specific entry and can't properly parse the returned data and
therefore it crashes. If this is the case, maybe you can delete the
entry manually in the Management Center, run export and then add the new
entry manually.
Henry
Mathew Lincoln wrote:
>
> I recently sent the message below to the list.
> >
> >My company has been trying to copy Worldmail from an NT server to an
> NT Workstation. We had installed Worldmail on the new >computer and
> copied the registry settings, as well as the entire Worldmail folder.
> >
> >This didn't work. We tried the NIBL utility, but it won't export
> properly from the server. It gives an "abnormal program termination"
> >message. Interestingly, it does export on the new computer.
> >
> Since then, I have tried a few things with NIBL to get it to export,
> but not had any success. I did manage to get a little more
> information. Here's what happened with nibl on verbose and debug on
> level 2.
>
> D:\PROGRA~1\WORLDM~1\SMTP>nibl -d 2 -e -v
> Please Enter Read Password ********
> Started at 25 Aug 1999 13:16:23
> ExportSMTP
> ListAgents
> ListSMTPConfig
> ListSMTPAccess
> ListGateways
> ExportIMS
> ListIMSConfig
> ListMailGroups
>
> abnormal program termination
>
> And then it stopped. any ideas?
>
> Mathew Lincoln
> Harris, Rothenberg Intl.
> lincoln at harrisrothenberg dot com
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 16:50:19 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Distribution Lists
At 9:34 AM -0800 8/26/99, Darren Seay wrote:
>I've been having some problems using the distribution lists in World
>Mail 2.0. It seems that no matter what setting I select for a list
>type (Open, Closed, Automatic) I all requests are still forwarded to
>the list owner. Also if when the owner subscribes someone I can not
>get it to send the welcome message. I have check the files path
>several times in the Welcome message location input box and it looks
>correct. Any one experience these problems and find any solutions?
Try deleting all traces of the list, and recreate it without a
welcome message. I think there are some bugs with welcome messages.
We are currently investigating this.
Please let us know if this fixes it for you.
--
Randall Gellens
Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only
-------------- Randomly-selected tag: ---------------
Politics offers yesterday's answers to today's problems.
--Marshall McLuhan
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 08:31:46 -0700
From: hiro <hiro_protagonist at dracona dot com>
Subject: Re: Distribution Lists
We also have never been able to get the welcome message function to work. I
have found no solution to this yet. As long as this product has been on the
market, no patches or upgrades have been made yet.
At 09:34 AM 08/26/1999 -0800, Darren Seay wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>I've been having some problems using the distribution lists in World
>Mail 2.0. It seems that no matter what setting I select for a list
>type (Open, Closed, Automatic) I all requests are still forwarded to
>the list owner. Also if when the owner subscribes someone I can not
>get it to send the welcome message. I have check the files path
>several times in the Welcome message location input box and it looks
>correct. Any one experience these problems and find any solutions?
>
>Thanks for any feedback,
>
>Darren Seay
>Computing Services
>Mendocino College
>http://www.mendocino.cc.ca.us
>mailto://dseay at mendocino.cc.ca dot us
>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:30:39 -0800
From: Darren Seay <dseay at mendocino.cc.ca dot us>
Subject: [Off Subject] Change Password
I am trying to find an RFC or documentation that discusses the
protocol for changing passwords on a POP3 default port 106. Can
anyone help me out?
Thanks,
Darren Seay
Computing Services
Mendocino College
http://www.mendocino.cc.ca.us
mailto://dseay at mendocino.cc.ca dot us
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 09:23:58 -0400
From: "Al Musella, DPM" <musella at virtualtrials dot com>
Subject: Re: SMTPD takes up 100% processor
It just happened again, and I got the log file on it, but don't see
anything abnormal in it.
One strange thing I noticed:
in the Worldmail management Console, under current connections / servers,
I have an entry that reads:
Type:CACHE
Source: 195.81.28.32
Time Connected: 5:50
I never look at that area, so I don't know if CACHE is a usual connection
or not, but the strange thing is Windows NT task manager reports that
SMTPD.EXE is using 98-100% CPU, for total time of 5 hours and 50 minutes.
Coincidence?
195.81.28.32 is not in my subnet.
Is that supposed to be there?
What should I look for in the log file?
Al Musella
Musella Foundation For Brain Tumor Research & Information
> I have an occasional problem where the SMTPD.exe service takes up 100%
> of the cpu time, which causes the server to become unresponsive.
>
> When I look at the task manager, I would see SMTPD.EXE with 90-100% of
> the CPU, and the CPU time would be , for example, 10 hours. (This is at
> a time when the server was running only a few days since last reboot)I
> can't stop SMTPD.EXE - the only way to fix it is a reboot. Then it goes
> back to normal.
>
>It is under a very light load - about 25 users. No lists.
>When things go well, like now for example, the server was running for a
>week. SMTPD.exe only used up 50 seconds of CPU time.
>
>I called eudora tech support 3 times on this, and they never heard of it
>or had any ideas how to prevent it.
>Has anyone else seen this?
>
>The machine is a Dell poweredge 2200 server, 300mhz, 128 meg ram, NT
>server 4.0, service pack 5. Plenty of free disk space. The only other
>thing running on the machine is a website log reporting tool.
>
>Al Musella
>Musella Foundation
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 18:20:03 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: [Off Subject] Change Password
At 10:30 AM -0800 8/31/99, Darren Seay wrote:
>I am trying to find an RFC or documentation that discusses the
>protocol for changing passwords on a POP3 default port 106. Can
>anyone help me out?
It's a pretty simple protocol:
(C means client and S means server, ALL CAPS means send as is (either
case), lower case means substitute with appropriate text:)
C: connect to poppassd (normally port 106)
S: 200 banner
C: USER username
S: 300 send password
C: PASS password
S: 200 OK
C: NEWPASS newpassword
S: 200 OK
C: QUIT
S 200 OK (closes connection)
--
Randall Gellens
rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com
Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only
From: "Mike Hahn" <hahnmt at zender dot com>
Subject: RE: Distribution Lists
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:02:39 -0400
I have had this problem too.
I once called Qualcomm support regarding the welcome messages not working.
They told me that it was a "known bug" and that they had no plans on
releasing any fixes for it.
From what I can tell WorldMail development is nonexistent.
-----Original Message-----
From: hiro [mailto:hiro_protagonist at dracona dot com]
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 1999 11:32 AM
To: Darren Seay; Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Re: Distribution Lists
We also have never been able to get the welcome message function to work. I
have found no solution to this yet. As long as this product has been on the
market, no patches or upgrades have been made yet.
At 09:34 AM 08/26/1999 -0800, Darren Seay wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>I've been having some problems using the distribution lists in World
>Mail 2.0. It seems that no matter what setting I select for a list
>type (Open, Closed, Automatic) I all requests are still forwarded to
>the list owner. Also if when the owner subscribes someone I can not
>get it to send the welcome message. I have check the files path
>several times in the Welcome message location input box and it looks
>correct. Any one experience these problems and find any solutions?
>
>Thanks for any feedback,
>
>Darren Seay
>Computing Services
>Mendocino College
>http://www.mendocino.cc.ca.us
>mailto://dseay at mendocino.cc.ca dot us
>
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:38:35 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Subject: RE: Distribution Lists
At 1:02 PM -0400 9/2/99, Mike Hahn wrote:
>They told me that it was a "known bug" and that they had no plans on
>releasing any fixes for it.
It is a known bug, and we do have plans to fix it.
--
Randall Gellens
rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com
Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only
From: "Gregory J. Hickel" <ghickel at crowderscoggins dot com>
Subject: Re: Distribution Lists
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 14:47:20 -0500
> It is a known bug, and we do have plans to fix it.
What are the plans for updates and new releases of Worldmail?
============================
Greg Hickel
gjhickel at crowderscoggins dot com
Crowder & Scoggins, Ltd.
http://www.crowderscoggins.com
From: "Mike Hahn" <hahnmt at zender dot com>
Subject: RE: Distribution Lists
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:07:37 -0400
Randall,
Thanks for the quick response, is it nice to hear that there are plans to
clean up Worldmail.
Do you have any more information regarding when you plan on fixing this bug?
It has been well over a year since I placed my call to Qualcomm support.
-----Original Message-----
From: Randall Gellens [mailto:rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com]
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 3:39 PM
To: Mike Hahn; Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: RE: Distribution Lists
At 1:02 PM -0400 9/2/99, Mike Hahn wrote:
>They told me that it was a "known bug" and that they had no plans on
>releasing any fixes for it.
It is a known bug, and we do have plans to fix it.
--
Randall Gellens
rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com
Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only
Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 08:08:03 +0300
From: Suhad <suhad at alshaya dot com>
Subject: Company signature ?
Dear all;
Can you kindly help me with the following:
1- I try to configure main signature for the company that will be as part
from any message will go outside from our server the signature could be "
The M.H.Alshaya Co. is not responsible for the content of the above message
for any further questions please contact the postmaster at alshaya dot com" ... dot I
try to search and e-mail eudora technical support they didn't send any
reply and am trying now that for 4 months...please if any one have an idea
or have already try it...can you send the method.......
Best regards
Best regards
Suhad AL-Khaldi
Technical Support Specialist
IT Dep. M.H.ALshaya -Kuwait
Tel:00965-4848400 Ext: 2533
fax:00965-4817885
E-mail: Postmaster at alshaya dot com , suhad at alshaya dot com
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 00:15:56 -0700
From: Garry Wiegand <squeezix at ithaca dot com>
Subject: Can Worldmail do SMTP authentication?
I need to restrict Worldmail's willingness to act as an message relay. In
my circumstances, Worldmail's feature of doing relay security on the basis
of the IP number of the connecting machine isn't strong enough. I could
live with doing transmit security via POP message transmission
(UsePOPSend=1 in Eudora.ini, "XTND XMIT" in the POP protocol) but
unfortunately Worldmail doesn't support the XTND XMIT feature.
But Eudora also has an "SMTP authentication" feature. As far as I can
tell, nothing changes when I enable the feature in Eudora. Is there any
way to get Worldmail to respond to Eudora's "SMTP authentication"?
thanks
Garry
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 11:31:08 -0700
From: Henry Avetisyan <henry at jps dot net>
Subject: Re: Can Worldmail do SMTP authentication?
The Worldmail server does not support the SMTP AUTH mechanism.
Henry
Garry Wiegand wrote:
>
> I need to restrict Worldmail's willingness to act as an message relay. In
> my circumstances, Worldmail's feature of doing relay security on the basis
> of the IP number of the connecting machine isn't strong enough. I could
> live with doing transmit security via POP message transmission
> (UsePOPSend=1 in Eudora.ini, "XTND XMIT" in the POP protocol) but
> unfortunately Worldmail doesn't support the XTND XMIT feature.
>
> But Eudora also has an "SMTP authentication" feature. As far as I can
> tell, nothing changes when I enable the feature in Eudora. Is there any
> way to get Worldmail to respond to Eudora's "SMTP authentication"?
>
> thanks
>
> Garry
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 10:03:02 -0700
From: rxbrown <rxbrown at ix.netcom dot com>
Subject: LDAP issue
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I am using netscape as a mail client for worldmail v2.0 server and
everything is fine with the exception of the ldap directory services.
When queried through web gateway the CN, SN, and RFC822 mail address all
show up o.k. however when queried through netscape address book this is
not the case, CN shows up as name and nothing else! I have used the
ISOCOR server with this same setup without problem. I suspect it has to
do with the ph2ldap service, but i am not very familiar with exactly how
ph works and was looking for pointers on info sources and/or suggestions
if anyone else has used worldmail to support other clients in addition
to eudora mail clients.
thx
rjb
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Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 14:43:42 -0400
From: Mathew Lincoln <is at harrisrothenberg dot com>
Subject: Testing WorldMail
My company just managed to copy over Worldmail from an NT server inside our
network to an NT workstation directly on the Internet.
We would like to test the server before we have our ISP switch over the MX
record. It would be preferable to not have any interruption in service. We
tried to create a domain that was just the Internet IP address of the
workstation, but WorldMail would not allow us to do it.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to test WorldMail without causing
disruption?
Any suggestions or ideas would be appreciated.
(212) 422-3420x219
is at harrisrothenberg dot com
Mathew Lincoln
Harris, Rothenberg International
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:06:15 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Can Worldmail do SMTP authentication?
At 12:15 AM -0700 9/5/99, Garry Wiegand wrote:
>Is there any way to get Worldmail to respond to Eudora's "SMTP
>authentication"?
The current version of WorldMail does not support SMTP AUTH.
--
Randall Gellens
rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com
Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:15:19 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Testing WorldMail
At 2:43 PM -0400 9/7/99, Mathew Lincoln wrote:
>We would like to test the server before we have our ISP switch over
>the MX record. It would be preferable to not have any interruption
>in service.
I'd suggest creating a new domain, such as "test." in front of the
regular name of your domain. Create normal MX, A, and PTR records.
To make life easier, I'd suggest creating two A records for the
WorldMail host, one with the "test." domain, and the other with the
non-test name. The "test." MX record should point at the "test."
name.
You can then run WorldMail on that host, operating as the
"test.<name>" domain, and verify that everything seems to be working
fine.
--
Randall Gellens
rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com
Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 23:03:40 -0700
From: Henry Avetisyan <henry at jps dot net>
Subject: Re: SMTPD takes up 100% processor
I'll say it's just coincidence. Whenever the mail server opens a
connection to another server, it delivers the mail, and by default keeps
the connection open (in CACHE state) for another 30 seconds (I believe
this is configurable in the Management Center) just in case within that
period another message arrives for the same server and it can reuse that
connection. It is certainly possible to have a connection in the CACHE
state for that period of time assuming either your users are keep
sending messages to that server or if you are using a smart relay host,
it could the ip address of your isp's server. You can also disconnect
any connection by right-clicking on the connection entry and choosing
Close connection option.
Henry
"Al Musella, DPM" wrote:
>
> It just happened again, and I got the log file on it, but don't see
> anything abnormal in it.
> One strange thing I noticed:
> in the Worldmail management Console, under current connections / servers,
> I have an entry that reads:
>
> Type:CACHE
> Source: 195.81.28.32
> Time Connected: 5:50
>
> I never look at that area, so I don't know if CACHE is a usual connection
> or not, but the strange thing is Windows NT task manager reports that
> SMTPD.EXE is using 98-100% CPU, for total time of 5 hours and 50 minutes.
> Coincidence?
> 195.81.28.32 is not in my subnet.
>
> Is that supposed to be there?
>
> What should I look for in the log file?
>
> Al Musella
> Musella Foundation For Brain Tumor Research & Information
>
> > I have an occasional problem where the SMTPD.exe service takes up 100%
> > of the cpu time, which causes the server to become unresponsive.
> >
> > When I look at the task manager, I would see SMTPD.EXE with 90-100% of
> > the CPU, and the CPU time would be , for example, 10 hours. (This is at
> > a time when the server was running only a few days since last reboot)I
> > can't stop SMTPD.EXE - the only way to fix it is a reboot. Then it goes
> > back to normal.
> >
> >It is under a very light load - about 25 users. No lists.
> >When things go well, like now for example, the server was running for a
> >week. SMTPD.exe only used up 50 seconds of CPU time.
> >
> >I called eudora tech support 3 times on this, and they never heard of it
> >or had any ideas how to prevent it.
> >Has anyone else seen this?
> >
> >The machine is a Dell poweredge 2200 server, 300mhz, 128 meg ram, NT
> >server 4.0, service pack 5. Plenty of free disk space. The only other
> >thing running on the machine is a website log reporting tool.
> >
> >Al Musella
> >Musella Foundation
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 23:09:18 -0700
From: Henry Avetisyan <henry at jps dot net>
Subject: Re: Company signature ?
The Worldmail product offers no such functionality. However, if you
want, you can use the Internet Security Filter Agent (this is part of
the NPLEX SDK available through ISOCOR's web site) to write an extension
to add your text at the end of each message. The basic idea is that
before each message is processed by the mail server, the message must be
processed by the IMSFA service. Your extension will check for the
messages where the originator is of form * at your.domain dot com and then will
add the text to the message. The complicated part is that you must be
familiar with RFC822/MIME structures since if the message includes MIME
attachments/body parts, you can't just append your signature at the end
of the message. The SDK gives you all the capability to parse the
message, but you're still need to know where to add the signature.
Henry
Suhad wrote:
>
> Dear all;
>
> Can you kindly help me with the following:
>
> 1- I try to configure main signature for the company that will be as part
> from any message will go outside from our server the signature could be "
> The M.H.Alshaya Co. is not responsible for the content of the above message
> for any further questions please contact the postmaster at alshaya dot com" ... dot I
> try to search and e-mail eudora technical support they didn't send any
> reply and am trying now that for 4 months...please if any one have an idea
> or have already try it...can you send the method.......
>
> Best regards
>
> Best regards
> Suhad AL-Khaldi
> Technical Support Specialist
> IT Dep. M.H.ALshaya -Kuwait
> Tel:00965-4848400 Ext: 2533
> fax:00965-4817885
> E-mail: Postmaster at alshaya dot com , suhad at alshaya dot com
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 09:59:04 -0400
From: "Al Musella, DPM" <musella at virtualtrials dot com>
Subject: Re: SMTPD takes up 100% processor
Is it possible that this is a denial of service attack? If so - what would
I look for?
By the way, when this problem happens, and I right click the cache
connection and select disconnect, it refuses to disconnect.
Al
At 11:03 PM 9/7/99 -0700, Henry Avetisyan wrote:
>I'll say it's just coincidence. Whenever the mail server opens a
>connection to another server, it delivers the mail, and by default keeps
>the connection open (in CACHE state) for another 30 seconds (I believe
>this is configurable in the Management Center) just in case within that
>period another message arrives for the same server and it can reuse that
>connection. It is certainly possible to have a connection in the CACHE
>state for that period of time assuming either your users are keep
>sending messages to that server or if you are using a smart relay host,
>it could the ip address of your isp's server. You can also disconnect
>any connection by right-clicking on the connection entry and choosing
>Close connection option.
>
>Henry
>
>"Al Musella, DPM" wrote:
> >
> > It just happened again, and I got the log file on it, but don't see
> > anything abnormal in it.
> > One strange thing I noticed:
> > in the Worldmail management Console, under current connections / servers,
> > I have an entry that reads:
> >
> > Type:CACHE
> > Source: 195.81.28.32
> > Time Connected: 5:50
> >
> > I never look at that area, so I don't know if CACHE is a usual connection
> > or not, but the strange thing is Windows NT task manager reports that
> > SMTPD.EXE is using 98-100% CPU, for total time of 5 hours and 50 minutes.
> > Coincidence?
> > 195.81.28.32 is not in my subnet.
> >
> > Is that supposed to be there?
> >
> > What should I look for in the log file?
> >
> > Al Musella
> > Musella Foundation For Brain Tumor Research & Information
> >
> > > I have an occasional problem where the SMTPD.exe service takes up 100%
> > > of the cpu time, which causes the server to become unresponsive.
> > >
> > > When I look at the task manager, I would see SMTPD.EXE with 90-100% of
> > > the CPU, and the CPU time would be , for example, 10 hours. (This is at
> > > a time when the server was running only a few days since last reboot)I
> > > can't stop SMTPD.EXE - the only way to fix it is a reboot. Then it goes
> > > back to normal.
> > >
> > >It is under a very light load - about 25 users. No lists.
> > >When things go well, like now for example, the server was running for a
> > >week. SMTPD.exe only used up 50 seconds of CPU time.
> > >
> > >I called eudora tech support 3 times on this, and they never heard of it
> > >or had any ideas how to prevent it.
> > >Has anyone else seen this?
> > >
> > >The machine is a Dell poweredge 2200 server, 300mhz, 128 meg ram, NT
> > >server 4.0, service pack 5. Plenty of free disk space. The only other
> > >thing running on the machine is a website log reporting tool.
> > >
> > >Al Musella
> > >Musella Foundation
From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: SMTPD takes up 100% processor
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 22:27:08 +0100
Hi Al,
Your second report was a different IP address (in the CACHE list) - so it
looks like it is not your ISP smart relay host.
I don't think that it is a denial of service attack because the CACHE daya
is generated for outbound connections.
Can you also check the logs for for around the time of the likely 100% CPU
usage starting and also try running and leaving running the ISOTRACE program
(program fils/common files/isocor/isotrace.exe - find Internet Mail and trun
on Verbose Logging).
If your system is not too busy then you couuld also send the trace data out
to file.
[the saving of data to the trace file happens as an internal buffer becomes
full and when you exit ISOTRACE
The next time that you start ISOTRACE the trace file is reset to empty - so
copy first if you want to save a trace]
Rgds
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Al Musella, DPM [mailto:musella at virtualtrials dot com]
Sent: 08 September 1999 14:59
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Re: SMTPD takes up 100% processor
Is it possible that this is a denial of service attack? If so - what would
I look for?
By the way, when this problem happens, and I right click the cache
connection and select disconnect, it refuses to disconnect.
Al
At 11:03 PM 9/7/99 -0700, Henry Avetisyan wrote:
>I'll say it's just coincidence. Whenever the mail server opens a
>connection to another server, it delivers the mail, and by default keeps
>the connection open (in CACHE state) for another 30 seconds (I believe
>this is configurable in the Management Center) just in case within that
>period another message arrives for the same server and it can reuse that
>connection. It is certainly possible to have a connection in the CACHE
>state for that period of time assuming either your users are keep
>sending messages to that server or if you are using a smart relay host,
>it could the ip address of your isp's server. You can also disconnect
>any connection by right-clicking on the connection entry and choosing
>Close connection option.
>
>Henry
>
>"Al Musella, DPM" wrote:
> >
> > It just happened again, and I got the log file on it, but don't see
> > anything abnormal in it.
> > One strange thing I noticed:
> > in the Worldmail management Console, under current connections /
servers,
> > I have an entry that reads:
> >
> > Type:CACHE
> > Source: 195.81.28.32
> > Time Connected: 5:50
> >
> > I never look at that area, so I don't know if CACHE is a usual
connection
> > or not, but the strange thing is Windows NT task manager reports that
> > SMTPD.EXE is using 98-100% CPU, for total time of 5 hours and 50
minutes.
> > Coincidence?
> > 195.81.28.32 is not in my subnet.
> >
> > Is that supposed to be there?
> >
> > What should I look for in the log file?
> >
> > Al Musella
> > Musella Foundation For Brain Tumor Research & Information
> >
> > > I have an occasional problem where the SMTPD.exe service takes up
100%
> > > of the cpu time, which causes the server to become unresponsive.
> > >
> > > When I look at the task manager, I would see SMTPD.EXE with 90-100%
of
> > > the CPU, and the CPU time would be , for example, 10 hours. (This is
at
> > > a time when the server was running only a few days since last reboot)I
> > > can't stop SMTPD.EXE - the only way to fix it is a reboot. Then it
goes
> > > back to normal.
> > >
> > >It is under a very light load - about 25 users. No lists.
> > >When things go well, like now for example, the server was running for a
> > >week. SMTPD.exe only used up 50 seconds of CPU time.
> > >
> > >I called eudora tech support 3 times on this, and they never heard of
it
> > >or had any ideas how to prevent it.
> > >Has anyone else seen this?
> > >
> > >The machine is a Dell poweredge 2200 server, 300mhz, 128 meg ram, NT
> > >server 4.0, service pack 5. Plenty of free disk space. The only other
> > >thing running on the machine is a website log reporting tool.
> > >
> > >Al Musella
> > >Musella Foundation
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 23:59:52 -0700
From: Henry Avetisyan <henry at jps dot net>
Subject: Re: SMTPD takes up 100% processor
No. The connection goes into a CACHE state only if it's initiated by the
mail server itself. First check to see if you actually have a connection
to that ip address (use netstat -a). If there is no connection, then it
seems that the connection was closed properly when the timeout expires
but the mail server lost knowledge about this and it can no longer close
it. If this is the case, then the only to get rid of this connection is
to restart the service. Maybe this could be the cause of your CPU usage
as well.
Henry
"Al Musella, DPM" wrote:
>
> Is it possible that this is a denial of service attack? If so - what would
> I look for?
> By the way, when this problem happens, and I right click the cache
> connection and select disconnect, it refuses to disconnect.
> Al
>
> At 11:03 PM 9/7/99 -0700, Henry Avetisyan wrote:
> >I'll say it's just coincidence. Whenever the mail server opens a
> >connection to another server, it delivers the mail, and by default keeps
> >the connection open (in CACHE state) for another 30 seconds (I believe
> >this is configurable in the Management Center) just in case within that
> >period another message arrives for the same server and it can reuse that
> >connection. It is certainly possible to have a connection in the CACHE
> >state for that period of time assuming either your users are keep
> >sending messages to that server or if you are using a smart relay host,
> >it could the ip address of your isp's server. You can also disconnect
> >any connection by right-clicking on the connection entry and choosing
> >Close connection option.
> >
> >Henry
> >
> >"Al Musella, DPM" wrote:
> > >
> > > It just happened again, and I got the log file on it, but don't see
> > > anything abnormal in it.
> > > One strange thing I noticed:
> > > in the Worldmail management Console, under current connections / servers,
> > > I have an entry that reads:
> > >
> > > Type:CACHE
> > > Source: 195.81.28.32
> > > Time Connected: 5:50
> > >
> > > I never look at that area, so I don't know if CACHE is a usual connection
> > > or not, but the strange thing is Windows NT task manager reports that
> > > SMTPD.EXE is using 98-100% CPU, for total time of 5 hours and 50 minutes.
> > > Coincidence?
> > > 195.81.28.32 is not in my subnet.
> > >
> > > Is that supposed to be there?
> > >
> > > What should I look for in the log file?
> > >
> > > Al Musella
> > > Musella Foundation For Brain Tumor Research & Information
> > >
> > > > I have an occasional problem where the SMTPD.exe service takes up 100%
> > > > of the cpu time, which causes the server to become unresponsive.
> > > >
> > > > When I look at the task manager, I would see SMTPD.EXE with 90-100% of
> > > > the CPU, and the CPU time would be , for example, 10 hours. (This is at
> > > > a time when the server was running only a few days since last reboot)I
> > > > can't stop SMTPD.EXE - the only way to fix it is a reboot. Then it goes
> > > > back to normal.
> > > >
> > > >It is under a very light load - about 25 users. No lists.
> > > >When things go well, like now for example, the server was running for a
> > > >week. SMTPD.exe only used up 50 seconds of CPU time.
> > > >
> > > >I called eudora tech support 3 times on this, and they never heard of it
> > > >or had any ideas how to prevent it.
> > > >Has anyone else seen this?
> > > >
> > > >The machine is a Dell poweredge 2200 server, 300mhz, 128 meg ram, NT
> > > >server 4.0, service pack 5. Plenty of free disk space. The only other
> > > >thing running on the machine is a website log reporting tool.
> > > >
> > > >Al Musella
> > > >Musella Foundation
From: "Gary Hunter" <ghunter at ibm dot net>
Subject: RE: How can I make Worldmail return an error message?
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 12:11:21 +1000
I have a variation on a previously asked question.
In my case, I have deliberetly configured to have all undeliverable messages
sent to postmaster as we are a small site and I wish to be able to manually
forward misspelled addressee mail. However, in cases where the message is
not intended for our users, I would like to be able to return it to sender
with a manualy forced, RFC compliant reject message as these mesage often
result in the usr name being deleted from automated mailing lists etc.
Can anyone tell me how to do this?
Gary Hunter
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 12:51:43 +0100
From: "Lee Nicholls" <LeeN at advancedgroup.co dot uk>
Subject: SMPT Message Relay
We use Worldmail Server 2.0 on a webserver hosting mailboxes connected =
directly to the backbone of a major UK ISP. Recently, we have been having =
problems with a spammer using our server as a relay host. If we disable =
this service, any users with an alias get an error message when sending =
mail. The spammer is using a different IP address every time, so we =
cannot block just one address.
Is there any way of blocking these spammers whilst keeping alias access.
Cheers!
Lee Nicholls
From: "Mike Hahn" <hahnmt at zender dot com>
Subject: RE: SMTP Message Relay
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:39:59 -0400
Lee,
I have been asking myself the same question since installing Worldmail. It
appears to me that there are no 'smart' filters outside of ip blocking.
Luckily, nobody has decided to use our smtp server as a relay yet.
If someone has an answer to this, I would be glad to hear it.
Mike Hahn
-----Original Message-----
From: Lee Nicholls [mailto:LeeN at advancedgroup.co dot uk]
Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 7:52 AM
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: SMPT Message Relay
We use Worldmail Server 2.0 on a webserver hosting mailboxes connected
directly to the backbone of a major UK ISP. Recently, we have been having
problems with a spammer using our server as a relay host. If we disable
this service, any users with an alias get an error message when sending
mail. The spammer is using a different IP address every time, so we cannot
block just one address.
Is there any way of blocking these spammers whilst keeping alias access.
Cheers!
Lee Nicholls
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 13:00:33 -0400
From: "Al Musella, DPM" <musella at virtualtrials dot com>
Subject: Re: SMPT Message Relay
Just to let you know - we have the same problem. And worse - some
militant "anti-spammers" harass me - thinking I sent the messages.
Also - it sometimes clogs up our mail server - many bad addresses that
get tried over and over again.
Al Musella
Musella Foundation
At 12:51 PM 10/4/99 +0100, Lee Nicholls wrote:
>We use Worldmail Server 2.0 on a webserver hosting mailboxes connected
>directly to the backbone of a major UK ISP. Recently, we have been having
>problems with a spammer using our server as a relay host. If we disable
>this service, any users with an alias get an error message when sending
>mail. The spammer is using a different IP address every time, so we
>cannot block just one address.
>
>Is there any way of blocking these spammers whilst keeping alias access.
>
>Cheers!
>
>Lee Nicholls
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 10:52:41 -0700
From: William Hultman <whultman at eudora dot com>
Subject: Re: SMPT Message Relay
At 12:51 PM 10/4/99 +0100, Lee Nicholls wrote:
>We use Worldmail Server 2.0 on a webserver hosting mailboxes connected
>directly to the backbone of a major UK ISP. Recently, we have been having
>problems with a spammer using our server as a relay host. If we disable
>this service, any users with an alias get an error message when sending
>mail. The spammer is using a different IP address every time, so we
>cannot block just one address.
>
>Is there any way of blocking these spammers whilst keeping alias access.
>
>Cheers!
>
>Lee Nicholls
Hi,
You can delete the alias and recreate it as a distribution list with a
single member. This will allow you to set your IP range restrictions and
close off the server from relaying for spammers.
Bill
_______________________________________________________
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This message created using Eudora Pro 4.2.1 beta for Windows 95/NT
and sent using WorldMail Server v2.0 for Windows NT 4.0
_______________________________________________________
From: Ric Wall <ric_wall at informatixinc dot com>
Subject: Hello Everyone!
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:45:44 -0700
HELLO EVERYONE!
I am ecstatic because today I received the first real mail from
the WorldMail list.
I tried joining 6 mos. ago, but nothing was happening, so after a few
weeks of only see the echo of my own words, I got frustrated and
de-subscribed.
For whoever is intered:
My name is Ric Wall, in San Francisco, California.
I am a sys admin for the City and County, and also a consultant
to a vendor/developer/integrator of an application that serves
25 other counties.
Right now we have 2 WorldMail 2.0 servers over NT Serv 4.0, hopefully
in the future we will have more.
I am religiously against Microsoft-based mail solutions, since I see it
as one more attempt by the evil empire to take over the world. However,
I realize technology forces all of us to interact or accommodate
even our staunches enemies...
If any of you have time I would like to know, from time to time, a bit about
the members of this list, not only the technical stuff, but about the human
beings behind the keyboard. -Ric
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 23:47:03 -0700
From: Ric Wall <ric_wall at informatixinc dot com>
Subject: re "list is hard to find"
>
I invoke the name of S.Dorner three times to give good luck to this request.
>
>This mailing list is hard to find. Would it be possible to have it prominently listed on Qualcomm's WorldMail site?
Should any of you have any thoughts on how to accomplish, please let me know... I am willing to volunteer some time as payment for having finally found the gold.
From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: Re: SMPT Message Relay
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 08:01:14 +0100
Does WorldMail 2.0 support the "POP before SMTP" option that is supported in
ISOCOR's N-PLEX.
[N-PLEX being the "parent" of WorldMail]
If it does then basically your own users would have POP3/IMAP4 accounts -
then .... when their mail client connects for POP3/IMAP4 this is recorded
... then subsequent SMTP relay requests have to come from same IP address.
Since Spammers do not have POP/IMAP accounts on your server - they would not
be able to relay.
Check the registry documentation in WorldMail to see if it is there.
Rgds
Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: Lee Nicholls <LeeN at advancedgroup.co dot uk>
To: Subscribers of WorldMail <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 12:51 PM
Subject: SMPT Message Relay
We use Worldmail Server 2.0 on a webserver hosting mailboxes connected
directly to the backbone of a major UK ISP. Recently, we have been having
problems with a spammer using our server as a relay host. If we disable
this service, any users with an alias get an error message when sending
mail. The spammer is using a different IP address every time, so we cannot
block just one address.
Is there any way of blocking these spammers whilst keeping alias access.
Cheers!
Lee Nicholls
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 10:13:06 +0300
From: Suhad AL-Khaldi <suhad at alshaya dot com>
Subject: Eudora Attachment
Hi All;
I have some users complain from the attachment how its display in their
Eudora Pro 3.0.2 some users they get it as URL address example"
c:\attach\xo.bmp" , and some users get it as an Icon which represent the
type of the file.....how can I standardize this and make the attachment
always display as Icon in Eudora Pro 3.0.2 or can i do it in the World mail
server 2.0......looking for some nice ideas
till that everybody wishing happy nice day
suhad
From: "Mike Hahn" <hahnmt at zender dot com>
Subject: RE: re "list is hard to find"
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 10:58:29 -0400
It may be a good idea to advertise the mailing list in one of the eudora or
worldmail newsgroups. It would be nice to draw in some of the support that
exists in those channels.
Who is the Administrator/Moderator of this mailing list?
Mike Hahn
-----Original Message-----
From: Ric Wall [mailto:ric_wall at informatixinc dot com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 2:47 AM
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: re "list is hard to find"
>
I invoke the name of S.Dorner three times to give good luck to this request.
>
>This mailing list is hard to find. Would it be possible to have it
prominently listed on Qualcomm's WorldMail site?
Should any of you have any thoughts on how to accomplish, please let me
know... I am willing to volunteer some time as payment for having finally
found the gold.