The worldmail list archive ending on 28 Apr 2000

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1. Re: WorldMail digest 17 Mar 2000
       David Faber <dfaber at airway2.bsd.uchicago dot edu>
       Fri, 17 Mar 2000 06:30:22 -0600
  2. Wildcard aliases
       "Mike Hahn" <hahnmt at zender dot com>
       Fri, 17 Mar 2000 09:41:25 -0500
  3. Re: Domain aliases (internet and intranet)
       "Computer Engineer" <tech at kwur.wustl dot edu>
       Thu, 23 Mar 2000 22:13:27 -0600
  4. RE: Domain aliases (internet and intranet)
       "Paul Webster" <paul at websterfamily.co dot uk>
       Fri, 24 Mar 2000 07:45:56 -0000
  5. Security
       David Faber <d-faber at uchicago dot edu>
       Fri, 24 Mar 2000 08:23:49 -0600
  6. Server-level Spam Filters?
       Gabriel Caunt <gabe at rbdg dot com>
       Fri, 24 Mar 2000 08:58:30 -0600
  7. Windows 2000 WorldMail Lockup
       "Anderson, Bill" <wander01 at mail.state.mo dot us>
       Fri, 24 Mar 2000 09:09:03 -0600
  8. Returning undeliverable mail
       Darren Seay <darren at pacific dot net>
       Fri, 24 Mar 2000 08:15:06 -0800
  9. RE: Domain aliases (internet and intranet)
       Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
       Sat, 25 Mar 2000 09:52:59 +1030
 10. Re: Server-level Spam Filters?
       Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
       Sat, 25 Mar 2000 09:55:11 +1030
 11. Re: Returning undeliverable mail
       Garry Wiegand <squeezix at ithaca dot com>
       Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:43:02 -0800
 12. Re: Windows 2000 WorldMail Lockup
       "Henry Avetisyan" <henry at jps dot net>
       Fri, 24 Mar 2000 23:38:10 -0800
 13. RE: Windows 2000 WorldMail Lockup
       "Anderson, Bill" <wander01 at mail.state.mo dot us>
       Mon, 27 Mar 2000 08:26:43 -0600
 14. Is there a way to print out a list emails?
       Luis C Martinez <luis at ged dot com>
       Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:55:45 -0600
 15. RE: Is there a way to print out a list emails?
       "Paul Webster" <paul.webster at psilink.co dot uk>
       Mon, 27 Mar 2000 22:23:25 +0100
 16. SMTP Memory Leak Problem
       Jim Whitfill <whitfill at lanl dot gov>
       Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:09:09 -0700
 17. Re: WorldMail digest 30 Mar 2000
       David Faber <d-faber at uchicago dot edu>
       Thu, 30 Mar 2000 12:06:38 -0600
 18. Re: WorldMail digest 30 Mar 2000
       Greg Bullough <gwb at outofchaos dot com>
       Thu, 30 Mar 2000 13:23:47 -0500
 19. Y2k
       ric wall <ric_wall at informatixinc dot com>
       Thu, 30 Mar 2000 14:54:08 -0800
 20. WIN2K NOT Y2K
       David Faber <d-faber at uchicago dot edu>
       Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:51:01 -0600
 21. Re: WIN2K NOT Y2K
       Gabriel Caunt <gabe at rbdg dot com>
       Fri, 31 Mar 2000 17:40:35 -0600
 22. Re: worldMail and w2k
       Gabriel Caunt <gabe at rbdg dot com>
       Mon, 03 Apr 2000 12:56:55 -0500
 23. WorldMail in Win2k
       Jeffrey Posluns <jeff at secureops dot com>
       Wed, 5 Apr 2000 13:53:25 -0400 
 24. Re: WorldMail in Win2k
       "Gregory J. Hickel" <ghickel at crowderscoggins dot com>
       Wed, 5 Apr 2000 13:24:02 -0500
 25. RE: WorldMail in Win2k
       "Paul Webster" <paul at websterfamily.co dot uk>
       Wed, 5 Apr 2000 21:00:04 +0100
 26. IMAP user has trouble with quotas
       Shinji Kuwayama <shinji at kuwayama dot com>
       Wed, 05 Apr 2000 17:15:45 -0500
 27. (Communicator / IMAP / Wordmail) deleting messages
       Shinji Kuwayama <shinji at kuwayama dot com>
       Wed, 05 Apr 2000 17:21:06 -0500
 28. NT4 Hardening
       Jeffrey Posluns <jeff at secureops dot com>
       Thu, 6 Apr 2000 12:21:20 -0400 
 29. RE: Server-level Spam Filters?
       "Mike Hahn" <hahnmt at zender dot com>
       Wed, 12 Apr 2000 12:00:45 -0400
 30. archiving msgs (in and out)
       Rakesh Agrawal <rakesh at mail.pipingtech dot com>
       Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:15:15 -0500
 31. scan attachments for viruses?
       Rakesh Agrawal <rakesh at mail.pipingtech dot com>
       Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:16:21 -0500
 32. finally, extract e-mail addresses...
       Rakesh Agrawal <rakesh at mail.pipingtech dot com>
       Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:17:53 -0500
 33. Re: Server-level Spam Filters?
       Garry Wiegand <squeezix at ithaca dot com>
       Thu, 13 Apr 2000 00:13:45 -0700
 34. Re: finally, extract e-mail addresses...
       Garry Wiegand <squeezix at ithaca dot com>
       Thu, 13 Apr 2000 00:56:26 -0700
 35. RE: scan attachments for viruses?
       "Andrew McClymont" <andrewmcclymont at d-link dot net>
       Thu, 13 Apr 2000 10:18:37 -0300
 36. RE: scan attachments for viruses?
       Peter Martin <p.martin at initialshorrock.co dot uk>
       Thu, 13 Apr 2000 14:28:46 +-100
 37. RE: scan attachments for viruses?
       "Paul Webster" <paul at websterfamily.co dot uk>
       Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:11:26 +0100
 38. Users on vacation
       Ric Wall <ric_w at sfnt02.cahwnet dot gov>
       Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:34:26 -0700
 39. Re: Users on vacation
       Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
       Sun, 16 Apr 2000 14:57:27 -0700
 40. Users on vacation
       Ric Wall <ric_w at sfnt02.cahwnet dot gov>
       Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:35:46 -0700
 41. Firewalls
       "Darren Farmer" <farmerd at adspower dot com>
       Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:47:15 -0500
 42. ISOCOR sdk
       "Andrew McClymont" <andrewmcclymont at d-link dot net>
       Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:01:46 -0300
 43. Re: Users on vacation
       "Douglas Anderson" <dandersn at purdue dot edu>
       Mon, 17 Apr 2000 13:31:28 -0500
 44. Re: ISOCOR sdk
       Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
       Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:55:40 -0700
 45. Re: Users on vacation
       Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
       Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:21:16 -0700
 46. New Anti-Spam Measures
       Listmaster <listmaster at lists.pensive dot org>
       Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:29:05 -0700
 47. RE: Server-level Spam Filters?
       "Dan Bullock" <danb at hawkgt dot com>
       Thu, 27 Apr 2000 22:27:16 -0400
 48. RE: Server-level Spam Filters?
       "Andrew McClymont" <andrewmcclymont at d-link dot net>
       Fri, 28 Apr 2000 02:11:04 -0300
 49. SMTPD.EXE and autodial
       "Lee Patterson" <lee at optexint dot com>
       Fri, 28 Apr 2000 13:20:13 +0100
 50. RE: Server-level Spam Filters?
       "Dan Bullock" <danb at hawkgt dot com>
       Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:29:26 -0400

Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 06:30:22 -0600
From: David Faber <dfaber at airway2.bsd.uchicago dot edu>
Subject: Re: WorldMail digest 17 Mar 2000

Worldmail is still an internet post office. The local mail domains
can only deal with mail once it has found its way to the post office. The DNS
still must direct the mail
to your machine. You will have to set up localserver.localdomain
as a cname for your MX registered internet address mydomain.com. Talk to your
network admin
or your ISP.

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "kwur tech" <tech at kwur.wustl dot edu>
> To: "Randall Gellens" <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>; "Subscribers of
> WorldMail" <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 4:18 AM
> Subject: Domain aliases (internet and intranet)
>
> > I would like to have Worldmail accept mail addresses to both
> > user at mydomain dot com (my registered domain) and
> > user at localserver dot localdomain (intranet domain).
> >
> > I currently have my all users in the Worldmail local domain
> > "mydomain.com".  I've attempted the settings below, where I set
> > AllowUnqualifiedGarbage=1, DefaultDomain=mydomain.com, but Worldmail
> > still reports "MX lookup failure" for messages addressed to
> > user at localserver dot localdomain.
> >
> > Must I setup a local DNS that intercepts lookups for "localdomain" for
> > this to work, or must I setup a custom domain "localdomain" and add
> > aliases for ALL users in "mydomain.com"?  Either way, a tedious job I'd
> > just assume avoid.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Randall Gellens wrote:
> > >
> > > At 12:51 PM -0500 2/28/00, Steve Finch wrote:
> > >
> > > >how do you get Worldmail to allow local email
> > > >between users without a fully qualified domain name address
> > >
> > > In the Registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SOFTWARE \ ISOCOR \ Services
> > > \ SMTP \ CurrentVersion \ Settings
> > >
> > > Create the DWORD AllowUnqualifiedGarbage and set it to 1.
> > >
> > > If you have more than one domain you need to specify a default using
> > > the STRING value DefaultDomain.
> > > --
> > > Randall Gellens
> > > rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com
> > > Opinions are personal;     facts are suspect;     I speak for myself
> only
> >
> > --
> > Ben West
> > Resident Loki
> >
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------

--

___David_Faber______________
 http://dfaber.uchicago.edu

From: "Mike Hahn" <hahnmt at zender dot com>
Subject: Wildcard aliases
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 09:41:25 -0500

We have a worldmail installation servicing multiple domains.  When we
originally purchased it, we migrated our email from an antiquated Solaris
machine running sendmail.  While performing the migration we noticed that
the majority of the featuers supported by sendmail could be duplicated in
world mail (i.e. aliasing, domain forwarding.)  One thing that was noticably
absent was the ability to configure an email box to receive all email
delivered to non-existent mailboxes in a domain.

I am aware that there is a "forward undeliverable messages" option in the
domain config.  Unfortunately this sends a non-delivery message to that
email address with the undeliverable message attached.

Is there any way to have worldmail forward the mail without repackaging it
in a non-delivery message?

Thanks,

Mike Hahn

From: "Computer Engineer" <tech at kwur.wustl dot edu>
Subject: Re: Domain aliases (internet and intranet)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 22:13:27 -0600

The thing with that method is that Worldmail would then require that I have
all users change their mail logins from "user" to "user%olddomain" to
distinguish between the two domains.  And reconfiguring all mail clients in
additional to the Worldmail server itself is an awful lot of effort.  My
original intention was to have a sendmail server on my firewall forward mail
to "localserver.localdomain", rather than just blindly forward port 25 to
the localserver.

But considering the amount of work required just to get Worldmail to handle
a domain alias, it seems it might be better off that I just migrate my users
to another mailserver.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
To: "Subscribers of WorldMail" <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: Domain aliases (internet and intranet)


> I think that you would have to add new domain and then add aliases within
it
> for your users.
> Although tedious to type and maintain ... if your user list doesn't change
> uch then you could use NIBL to export your current list then cut/paste to
> make your new one and then import.
>
> [set up a sample user first to show that it works - and you would then
also
> see the syntax of the alias "user" when you export.
> The "Allow Unqalified Garbage" hack is to allow mail to come in as
> fred.bloggs instead of fred.bloggs at domain dot dom - so not really relevant
here.
>
> Paul
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "kwur tech" <tech at kwur.wustl dot edu>
> To: "Randall Gellens" <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>; "Subscribers
of
> WorldMail" <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 4:18 AM
> Subject: Domain aliases (internet and intranet)
>
>
> > I would like to have Worldmail accept mail addresses to both
> > user at mydomain dot com (my registered domain) and
> > user at localserver dot localdomain (intranet domain).
> >
> > I currently have my all users in the Worldmail local domain
> > "mydomain.com".  I've attempted the settings below, where I set
> > AllowUnqualifiedGarbage=1, DefaultDomain=mydomain.com, but Worldmail
> > still reports "MX lookup failure" for messages addressed to
> > user at localserver dot localdomain.
> >
> > Must I setup a local DNS that intercepts lookups for "localdomain" for
> > this to work, or must I setup a custom domain "localdomain" and add
> > aliases for ALL users in "mydomain.com"?  Either way, a tedious job I'd
> > just assume avoid.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Randall Gellens wrote:
> > >
> > > At 12:51 PM -0500 2/28/00, Steve Finch wrote:
> > >
> > > >how do you get Worldmail to allow local email
> > > >between users without a fully qualified domain name address
> > >
> > > In the Registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SOFTWARE \ ISOCOR \ Services
> > > \ SMTP \ CurrentVersion \ Settings
> > >
> > > Create the DWORD AllowUnqualifiedGarbage and set it to 1.
> > >
> > > If you have more than one domain you need to specify a default using
> > > the STRING value DefaultDomain.
> > > --
> > > Randall Gellens
> > > rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com
> > > Opinions are personal;     facts are suspect;     I speak for myself
> only
> >
> > --
> > Ben West
> > Resident Loki
> >
>
>

From: "Paul Webster" <paul at websterfamily.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Domain aliases (internet and intranet)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 07:45:56 -0000

Check to see if your version of WorldMail supports the setting of a default
domain (via registry) - if it does then you would not need the domain in the
login - so that issue would be removed.
[all registry keys are described in the on-line documentation]

Rgds
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Computer Engineer [mailto:tech at kwur.wustl dot edu]
Sent: 24 March 2000 04:13
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Re: Domain aliases (internet and intranet)


The thing with that method is that Worldmail would then require that I have
all users change their mail logins from "user" to "user%olddomain" to
distinguish between the two domains.  And reconfiguring all mail clients in
additional to the Worldmail server itself is an awful lot of effort.  My
original intention was to have a sendmail server on my firewall forward mail
to "localserver.localdomain", rather than just blindly forward port 25 to
the localserver.

But considering the amount of work required just to get Worldmail to handle
a domain alias, it seems it might be better off that I just migrate my users
to another mailserver.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
To: "Subscribers of WorldMail" <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: Domain aliases (internet and intranet)


> I think that you would have to add new domain and then add aliases within
it
> for your users.
> Although tedious to type and maintain ... if your user list doesn't change
> uch then you could use NIBL to export your current list then cut/paste to
> make your new one and then import.
>
> [set up a sample user first to show that it works - and you would then
also
> see the syntax of the alias "user" when you export.
> The "Allow Unqalified Garbage" hack is to allow mail to come in as
> fred.bloggs instead of fred.bloggs at domain dot dom - so not really relevant
here.
>
> Paul
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "kwur tech" <tech at kwur.wustl dot edu>
> To: "Randall Gellens" <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>; "Subscribers
of
> WorldMail" <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 4:18 AM
> Subject: Domain aliases (internet and intranet)
>
>
> > I would like to have Worldmail accept mail addresses to both
> > user at mydomain dot com (my registered domain) and
> > user at localserver dot localdomain (intranet domain).
> >
> > I currently have my all users in the Worldmail local domain
> > "mydomain.com".  I've attempted the settings below, where I set
> > AllowUnqualifiedGarbage=1, DefaultDomain=mydomain.com, but Worldmail
> > still reports "MX lookup failure" for messages addressed to
> > user at localserver dot localdomain.
> >
> > Must I setup a local DNS that intercepts lookups for "localdomain" for
> > this to work, or must I setup a custom domain "localdomain" and add
> > aliases for ALL users in "mydomain.com"?  Either way, a tedious job I'd
> > just assume avoid.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Randall Gellens wrote:
> > >
> > > At 12:51 PM -0500 2/28/00, Steve Finch wrote:
> > >
> > > >how do you get Worldmail to allow local email
> > > >between users without a fully qualified domain name address
> > >
> > > In the Registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SOFTWARE \ ISOCOR \ Services
> > > \ SMTP \ CurrentVersion \ Settings
> > >
> > > Create the DWORD AllowUnqualifiedGarbage and set it to 1.
> > >
> > > If you have more than one domain you need to specify a default using
> > > the STRING value DefaultDomain.
> > > --
> > > Randall Gellens
> > > rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com
> > > Opinions are personal;     facts are suspect;     I speak for myself
> only
> >
> > --
> > Ben West
> > Resident Loki
> >
>
>

Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 08:23:49 -0600
From: David Faber <d-faber at uchicago dot edu>
Subject: Security

	I set up spam relay filters as described in an earlier post, 
but had to disarm them because all of my users from alternate ISP's 
could not get SMTP services. We have users who travel all over the 
world and it would be impossible to discern all of the IP#s that 
might need SMTP services at any time. Is there a remedy that does not 
involve asking users to change their configurations?

Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 08:58:30 -0600
From: Gabriel Caunt <gabe at rbdg dot com>
Subject: Server-level Spam Filters?

I'm sure that this is a popular question on this list, and I apologize
if there is some FAQ that I should have already read on this subject.

What are the options (if any) on filtering spam out at the server level
for all of the users in my domain using a Worldmail server?  We have a
fairly constant stream of spam that can pretty easily be identified by
phrases ("ABSOULTELY NO RISK", "EASY MONEY", "INTERNET STOCK TIP") but
is not so easily identifiable by sender, domain, or IP address.
Specifically, I'd like to be able to filter all such mail into a shared
"Spam folder" so that we can periodically scan it to make sure that
we're not throwing away real messages.

I am aware that users can set up personal filters using clients like
Eudora Light and Netscape Communicator. However,  my question is
directed toward _Server_ level filtering.

Any great ideas?

--
Gabriel Caunt
RUSS BERGER DESIGN GROUP
4006 Beltline Suite 160
Dallas, TX 75001
972/661-5222
972/934-3935 fax
www.rbdg.com

From: "Anderson, Bill" <wander01 at mail.state.mo dot us>
Subject: Windows 2000 WorldMail Lockup
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 09:09:03 -0600

I am running Windows 2000 Professional, and have a problem running the
WorldMail Management Center. Almost everything works fine. I can connect to
the server, and do most management functions. However, when I click on
Manage on the menu, WorldMail locks up and the CPU utilization goes to 100%.
I can end the task with no adverse effects to any other application.

I have tried using the Windows 2000 Application Compatibility Tool, but that
does not help. Does anyone have any ideas?

Bill Anderson
MIS Network Administrator
MO Dept of Economic Development

Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 08:15:06 -0800
From: Darren Seay <darren at pacific dot net>
Subject: Returning undeliverable mail

Hi All,

Recently our WorldMail server has done something a bit odd.  I does not 
seem to send a undeliverable reply to a user who sends an email to the 
server for a user that does not exist.  For example if I send an email to 
junk at mendocino.cc.ca dot us  (there is no junk account on the server) I never 
get a response that it did not make it.  Is there any settings or 
configuration that could affect this that I should be aware of.  Thanks for 
any help.


--
Darren Seay
mailto:darren at pacific dot net

Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 09:52:59 +1030
From: Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Subject: RE: Domain aliases (internet and intranet)

At 7:45 AM +0000 3/24/00, Paul Webster wrote:

>Check to see if your version of WorldMail supports the setting of a default
>domain (via registry) - if it does then you would not need the domain in the
>login - so that issue would be removed.
>[all registry keys are described in the on-line documentation]

This can be done from the Management Center -- no need to use the registry.
-- 
Randall Gellens
rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com
Opinions are personal;     facts are suspect;     I speak for myself only

Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 09:55:11 +1030
From: Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Server-level Spam Filters?

At 8:58 AM -0600 3/24/00, Gabriel Caunt wrote:

>What are the options (if any) on filtering spam out at the server level
>for all of the users in my domain using a Worldmail server?

You can use the IMSFA (Internet Mail Security Filter API) mechanism, 
but you would have to create a DLL that becomes a plug-in.  I believe 
the ISOCOR web site has instructions and an SDK, which includes a 
sample plug-in that can be modified.
-- 
Randall Gellens
rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com
Opinions are personal;     facts are suspect;     I speak for myself only

From: Garry Wiegand <squeezix at ithaca dot com>
Subject: Re: Returning undeliverable mail
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:43:02 -0800

Darren Seay wrote:
>It does not 
>seem to send a undeliverable reply to a user who sends an email to the 
>server for a user that does not exist.

In "Configure Local Domain" / General, double-check that "Where To =
Forward
Undeliverable Mail" / "E-Mail Address" is enabled but blank. Yes, it's
non-intuitive.

Garry

From: "Henry Avetisyan" <henry at jps dot net>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 WorldMail Lockup
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 23:38:10 -0800

Just use the right click menu option instead of Manage option from the menu
structure.

Henry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Anderson, Bill" <wander01 at mail.state.mo dot us>
To: "Subscribers of WorldMail" <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 7:09 AM
Subject: Windows 2000 WorldMail Lockup


> I am running Windows 2000 Professional, and have a problem running the
> WorldMail Management Center. Almost everything works fine. I can connect
to
> the server, and do most management functions. However, when I click on
> Manage on the menu, WorldMail locks up and the CPU utilization goes to
100%.
> I can end the task with no adverse effects to any other application.
>
> I have tried using the Windows 2000 Application Compatibility Tool, but
that
> does not help. Does anyone have any ideas?
>
> Bill Anderson
> MIS Network Administrator
> MO Dept of Economic Development
>

From: "Anderson, Bill" <wander01 at mail.state.mo dot us>
Subject: RE: Windows 2000 WorldMail Lockup
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 08:26:43 -0600

Thanks! That worked fine.

-----Original Message-----
From: Henry Avetisyan [mailto:henry at jps dot net]
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2000 1:38 AM
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 WorldMail Lockup


Just use the right click menu option instead of Manage option from the menu
structure.

Henry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Anderson, Bill" <wander01 at mail.state.mo dot us>
To: "Subscribers of WorldMail" <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 7:09 AM
Subject: Windows 2000 WorldMail Lockup


> I am running Windows 2000 Professional, and have a problem running the
> WorldMail Management Center. Almost everything works fine. I can connect
to
> the server, and do most management functions. However, when I click on
> Manage on the menu, WorldMail locks up and the CPU utilization goes to
100%.
> I can end the task with no adverse effects to any other application.
>
> I have tried using the Windows 2000 Application Compatibility Tool, but
that
> does not help. Does anyone have any ideas?
>
> Bill Anderson
> MIS Network Administrator
> MO Dept of Economic Development
>

Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:55:45 -0600
From: Luis C Martinez <luis at ged dot com>
Subject: Is there a way to print out a list emails?

Hi all:
	Is there a way within worldmail to print out a list of the 
message box users and their corresponding email and name... in some 
kind of useful out put format?
i.e i run abc.com in my mail server  how can i get a print out of all 
the email useres that are in the abc.com mail server..

Thanks
-Luis

From: "Paul Webster" <paul.webster at psilink.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Is there a way to print out a list emails?
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 22:23:25 +0100

You could use NIBL to export - you will get more than just the user and mail
address - but it is a useful format ... in that you can use it to re-create
mailboxes in event of a disaster ....

Otherwise you could enable the telnet password and perform a user show or
user list.
If you run ISOTRACE and enable SMTP/Message Store tracing and then perform
some management commands from the Management Centre you will see how the
commands work.

Rgds
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Luis C Martinez [mailto:luis at ged dot com]
Sent: 27 March 2000 20:56
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Is there a way to print out a list emails?


Hi all:
	Is there a way within worldmail to print out a list of the
message box users and their corresponding email and name... in some
kind of useful out put format?
i.e i run abc.com in my mail server  how can i get a print out of all
the email useres that are in the abc.com mail server..

Thanks
-Luis

Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:09:09 -0700
From: Jim Whitfill <whitfill at lanl dot gov>
Subject: SMTP Memory Leak Problem

I'm seeing an infrequent leak in the SMTPD process in Worldmail V2.0. 
About once a month, this process will begin to grow and eventually 
eat all of virtual memory. The last time it happened, I rebooted 
(which will clear the problem) after SMTPD was 209MB in size.

Worldmail support says it may be related to DNS problems but don't 
know much more about it.

Has anyone else seen this problem.
-- 
-----------------------
Jim A. Whitfill                                              (505) 667-9282
                Engineering Sciences & Applications Division
                     of the Los Alamos National Laboratory
mailto:whitfill at lanl dot gov	Opinions are MINE ONLY!!

Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 12:06:38 -0600
Subject: Re: WorldMail digest 30 Mar 2000
From: David Faber <d-faber at uchicago dot edu>

Does anyone know yet if Worldmail is Win2K compatible?

Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 13:23:47 -0500
From: Greg Bullough <gwb at outofchaos dot com>
Subject: Re: WorldMail digest 30 Mar 2000

We had a problem where the management center couldn't talk to
the server on Jan 3 when we got in.

Since Qualcomm took the day off (cocky, ain't they?) we uninstalled
and reinstalled. Didn't help. Then we uninstalled and removed all registry
traces and reinstalled. That fixed it.

Qualcomm denies that there was a problem.

Therefore, we must have imagined it, and it follows that the product is fully
Y2K compliant.

Greg

At 12:06 PM 3/30/00 -0600, David Faber wrote:
>Does anyone know yet if Worldmail is Win2K compatible?

Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 14:54:08 -0800
From: ric wall <ric_wall at informatixinc dot com>
Subject: Y2k

The question of Y2k-compliance has come up several times on this list since
December of 99.  The answer is that no Y2k-related problems have been observed.
And since SMTP and POP do not "do any math" (other than figuring out how 
big your attachments are, probably)  there is no reason to suspect that 
they will provoke any
date-related problems.




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Subject: Re: WorldMail digest 30 Mar 2000

We had a problem where the management center couldn't talk to
the server on Jan 3 when we got in.
Since Qualcomm took the day off (cocky, ain't they?) we uninstalled
and reinstalled. Didn't help. Then we uninstalled and removed all registry
traces and reinstalled. That fixed it.
Qualcomm denies that there was a problem.
Therefore, we must have imagined it, and it follows that the product is fully
Y2K compliant.
Greg
At 12:06 PM 3/30/00 -0600, David Faber wrote:
Does anyone know yet if Worldmail is Win2K compatible?

Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:51:01 -0600
Subject: WIN2K NOT Y2K
From: David Faber <d-faber at uchicago dot edu>

Thanks but I had no Y2K problems. I would like to upgrade my OS to Windows
2000. Anyone have experience with this? Thanks again.

Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 17:40:35 -0600
From: Gabriel Caunt <gabe at rbdg dot com>
Subject: Re: WIN2K NOT Y2K

David Faber wrote:

> Thanks but I had no Y2K problems. I would like to upgrade my OS to Windows
> 2000. Anyone have experience with this? Thanks again.

Hi David-

I am currently running Eudora Worldmail on Windows 2000 with a few
problems:

1. Clicking on the "Manage" menu item always locks up the Worldmail
management
center, either on Windows 2000 or Windows 2000 Server.  Fortunately, all
of
the functionality of this menu can be obtained by right-clicking on the
expanding list view.  Annoying, but possible to work around.  In any
case,
locking the management center does not stop the SMTP/POP/IMAP services,
and I
have had no corrupted files from ending the task repeated times.

2. The larger problem is that Worldmail will not be able to send
outgoing mail
because under Win2k it can't find your DNS entries because they have
moved in
the system registry.  As I recall, you can get the server up and running
and
receive messages, but you can't send anything outside of your local
domain.
The workaround is to manually place your DNS server settings into the
windows
registry in the old WinNT 4.0 locations.  The registry keys are:


HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Domain


HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Hostna
me


HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Namese
rver


HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\NV
Domain


HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\NV
Hostname

After upgrading to Win2K, I had all but the third one intact, but that
was to
a pre-release copy of Win2K server.

Be sure to back up your registry first-  Also It's a good idea to copy
the
registry values down from the NT 4.0 machine before upgrading.  Credit
for the
above solution goes to a kind soul I know only as "Willem"
<willem at ipr dot nl>.
He also noted that many other WinNT mail servers look in the same places
for
DNS settings, so others may break in a similar fashion.

The official position from Eudora, however, is that "Worldmail server
does not
currently support Windows 2000.  We hope to have a version available
soon, but
in the meantime you will not be able to use it with Windows 2000".  I
have
also been told by another Eudora employee (responding my same message on
this
subject)  "I'm not sure what they are doing, but we hope to have
something out
soon."  Both quotes from 12/22/99.

Hope that helps.

--
Gabriel Caunt
RUSS BERGER DESIGN GROUP
4006 Beltline Suite 160
Dallas, TX 75001
972/661-5222
972/934-3935 fax
www.rbdg.com

Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 12:56:55 -0500
From: Gabriel Caunt <gabe at rbdg dot com>
Subject: Re: worldMail and w2k

Dean-

I do not know the answer to your question.  I am not using Active Directory on
my mail server, so I have not encountered this conflict.  I'll post your message
to the group for everyone's information and to see if anyone has an answer to
your question.

Gabriel Caunt
RUSS BERGER DESIGN GROUP

dean wrote:

> Hi Gabriel,
>
> Im no member of the WorldMail Newsgroup, so I post directly:
> I'm running the WorldMail Server on a w2k advServer.
> There are no serious problems with the Eudora WorldMail (except the freezing
> Management menue item),
> even the registry changes weren't necessary ( i remember being asked if i
> allowed the Eudora setup to write some registry keys).
> BUT there is a serious problem with active directory and the DNS: The local
> DNS-Server loses every connection after having installed dao 3.5 which is
> recommended for the WorldMail Server during setup. When i remove dao 3.5
> everything's fine again, but i dont know if the WorldMail still works
> properly without dao 3.5.
> So my question:
> do you know if the WorldMail runs without dao 3.5 on w2k; or is it possible
> to replace it somehow?
>
> thanks for your help
>
> dean

From: Jeffrey Posluns <jeff at secureops dot com>
Subject: WorldMail in Win2k
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 13:53:25 -0400 

Regarding WorldMail and Win2k,

It is my oppinion that a server should provide what services are absolutely
required, and nothing else. A mail server should have the absolute minimum
installed / active in order to provide mail services.

In the case of a mail server, and WorldMail specifically, the minimum
necessary to provide services in a secure operating environment is:

Windows NT 4.0
Patched to the latest service pack (6a)
The three or four hotfixes after SP6a installed
All networking server related functions dissabled
Netbios dissabled
TCP Filters active allowing ONLY ports 25, 110, and the management ports (I
don't recall, but I think it was 9000 and 9001 - but that might be
RealSecure management)
UDP Filters active allowing NOTHING.

With the above configuration, there is nothing that can be done to the
server outside of using and managing the mail services required. In an
optimal configuration, the mail server would be in a DMZ or behind a
firewall which would block everything but TCP 25/110 and allow management
connections only from authorized IPs. I don't want to put down WorldMail
security, but I don't trust anything that is not filtered by a firewall that
I manage.

For people running (or wanting to run) WorldMail on Win2000, why is it
necessary? For the few hundred dollars that you can get a Celleron 400
system with, why not have a relatively safe/secure system that offers the
required services and no more? Why is it necessary to have a resource
intensive opertaing system to provide a service that uses almost nothing in
resources?

Regards all...
_______________
Jeffrey Posluns
Chief Technology Officer
SecureOps Inc.
T: (514) 982-0678 x124
F: (514) 982-0362

From: "Gregory J. Hickel" <ghickel at crowderscoggins dot com>
Subject: Re: WorldMail in Win2k
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 13:24:02 -0500

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeffrey Posluns" <jeff at secureops dot com>
To: "Subscribers of WorldMail" <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>

> and the management ports (I don't recall, but I think it was 9000 and
9001)

Anyone know for sure what the necessary ports are?  Thanks!

Greg Hickel
ghickel at crowderscoggins dot com

From: "Paul Webster" <paul at websterfamily.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: WorldMail in Win2k
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 21:00:04 +0100

Management ports are configurable - but default to:
4200 [smtp management] 
4201 [message store management] 
4299 [rmap - logs/stop/start]

Rgds
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Gregory J. Hickel [mailto:ghickel at crowderscoggins dot com]
Sent: 05 April 2000 19:24
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Re: WorldMail in Win2k


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeffrey Posluns" <jeff at secureops dot com>
To: "Subscribers of WorldMail" <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>

> and the management ports (I don't recall, but I think it was 9000 and
9001)

Anyone know for sure what the necessary ports are?  Thanks!

Greg Hickel
ghickel at crowderscoggins dot com

Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 17:15:45 -0500
From: Shinji Kuwayama <shinji at kuwayama dot com>
Subject: IMAP user has trouble with quotas

I have an IMAP user who consistently goes over quota; our problem is
that once he's over quota, there doesn't seem to be a way for him to
delete messages or folders to get back down - he has to contact me so I
can do it administratively. Can anyone advise? Should he be able to
delete messages while over quota, or is this how it's supposed to work?

Shinji Kuwayama

Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 17:21:06 -0500
From: Shinji Kuwayama <shinji at kuwayama dot com>
Subject: (Communicator / IMAP / Wordmail) deleting messages

This has to do with that user who's gone over quota...

This user has Communicator set to move message to the Trash when
deleted, and to empty the Trash on quit. Additionally, the client is
configured to automatically company mailboxes when it will save over
100K. Neither of these things seem to be having any effect; many
messages continue to live on the server despite being moved to the
Trash, compacted, and deleted.

Can anyone advise?

Shinji Kuwayama

From: Jeffrey Posluns <jeff at secureops dot com>
Subject: NT4 Hardening
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 12:21:20 -0400 

As a number of you have sent me messages onthis topic, here's a link to a
"Hardening NT" site that should help a fair bit in setting up a "WorldMail
services and nothing else" server...

http://www.secureops.com/nt/

From: "Mike Hahn" <hahnmt at zender dot com>
Subject: RE: Server-level Spam Filters?
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 12:00:45 -0400

Has anyone written one of these filters?

An incredibly useful filter would be one which could validate the sender's
return address as being a valid account in the worldmail system.  Perhaps
someone has already seen this need and created one.


-----Original Message-----
From: Randall Gellens [mailto:rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com]
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 6:25 PM
To: Gabriel Caunt; Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Re: Server-level Spam Filters?


At 8:58 AM -0600 3/24/00, Gabriel Caunt wrote:

>What are the options (if any) on filtering spam out at the server level
>for all of the users in my domain using a Worldmail server?

You can use the IMSFA (Internet Mail Security Filter API) mechanism,
but you would have to create a DLL that becomes a plug-in.  I believe
the ISOCOR web site has instructions and an SDK, which includes a
sample plug-in that can be modified.
--
Randall Gellens
rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com
Opinions are personal;     facts are suspect;     I speak for myself only

Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:15:15 -0500
From: Rakesh Agrawal <rakesh at mail.pipingtech dot com>
Subject: archiving msgs (in and out)

How can I archive both inbound and outbound messages?  Is there a mail 
server that will allow me to do this if worldmail will not?  I basically 
want to store the messages so that I have a record of e-mail communications=
 
that have been both sent out and received.

Thanks,
Rakesh
--------------------------------------------
Rakesh Agrawal, rakesh at mail.pipingtech dot com
+1-713-731-0030 ext 122
+1-713-731-8640 fax
Piping Technology & Products, Inc.
Pipe Supports · Expansion Joints · ASME/Misc Fabrication
http://www.pipingtech.com/

Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:16:21 -0500
From: Rakesh Agrawal <rakesh at mail.pipingtech dot com>
Subject: scan attachments for viruses?

How can I setup worldmail so that its scans attachments for viruses and if=
 
viruses are encountered it returns them to sender with some sort of a 
message?  Is it possible to do this with worldmail?

--Rakesh
--------------------------------------------
Rakesh Agrawal, rakesh at mail.pipingtech dot com
+1-713-731-0030 ext 122
+1-713-731-8640 fax
Piping Technology & Products, Inc.
Pipe Supports · Expansion Joints · ASME/Misc Fabrication
http://www.pipingtech.com/

Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:17:53 -0500
From: Rakesh Agrawal <rakesh at mail.pipingtech dot com>
Subject: finally, extract e-mail addresses...

I want for my mail server to extract all e-mail addresses in outgoing and 
incoming mail messages.  I want to use the mail addresses that pass through=
 
this server for marketing purposes -- most of the emails that come in are 
our customers.  Is there someway that I can do this?  Perhaps using an 
external program that scans messages and extracts the messages before the 
server actually delivers it?

Thanks,
Rakesh
--------------------------------------------
Rakesh Agrawal, rakesh at mail.pipingtech dot com
+1-713-731-0030 ext 122
+1-713-731-8640 fax
Piping Technology & Products, Inc.
Pipe Supports · Expansion Joints · ASME/Misc Fabrication
http://www.pipingtech.com/

From: Garry Wiegand <squeezix at ithaca dot com>
Subject: Re: Server-level Spam Filters?
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 00:13:45 -0700

Mike Hahn wrote:
>An incredibly useful filter would be one which could validate the =
sender's
>return address as being a valid account in the worldmail system.  =
Perhaps
>someone has already seen this need and created one.

I'm confused.

You want to allow *only* the messages that originate within your site /
within your "worldmail system" to be accepted for delivery by your site? =
No
outside e-mail to be allowed in at all? You could probably achieve this
effect just by blocking all outside IP numbers.

Or, are you saying that for those incoming messages that appear to be =
from
local users, you'd like Worldmail to verify that those local addresses =
indeed
contain valid names? This I think Worldmail already does.

Or, are you saying you'd like outsiders to be able to get in, but only if=
 the
particular outsider's name appears on a special authorization list within
Worldmail? This might be harder to achieve...

Garry

From: Garry Wiegand <squeezix at ithaca dot com>
Subject: Re: finally, extract e-mail addresses...
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 00:56:26 -0700

Rakesh Agrawal wrote:
>I want for my mail server to extract all e-mail addresses in outgoing =
and 
>incoming mail messages.  I want to use the mail addresses that pass =
through 
>this server for marketing purposes -- most of the emails that come in =
are 
>our customers.  Is there someway that I can do this?  

Look in WorldMail/SMTP/LogDir. The text files you find there will include=
 a
mention of every sender and recipient address seen by the system. 

Of course, if you were to send any mail out to a large list of
mechanically-obtained addresses, without having previously obtained
permission from each person, that would make you a spammer. There might =
be
serious consequences to spamming: some of your customers will be very =
angry
with you, your upstream ISP may cut off your service, destination =
machines
may permanently block all messages coming from your site, etc.

If, on the other hand, you just want to gather some simple statistics, =
for
example on how many different people send mail to your company, then =
those
log files would be just the ticket. A simple Unix shell script would make=
 the
name-filtering task pretty easy. To do Unix commands within Windows I use=
 a
product called "MKS Toolkit", www.datafocus.com/products/tk, with which =
I'm
quite happy.

Here's a sample script:

	egrep "DELIVER From=<" c:/Worldmail/SMTP/LogDir/SMTP-LOG* |\
	sed 's+^[^<]*<++' |\
	sed 's+>.*$++' |\
	tr A-Z a-z |\
	sort |\
	uniq >senders.txt

	egrep "DELIVER Recipient=<" c:/Worldmail/SMTP/LogDir/SMTP-LOG* |\
	sed 's+^[^<]*<++' |\
	sed 's+>.*$++' |\
	tr A-Z a-z |\
	sort |\
	uniq >recipients.txt

hope this helps,

Garry

From: "Andrew McClymont" <andrewmcclymont at d-link dot net>
Subject: RE: scan attachments for viruses?
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 10:18:37 -0300

You need McAfee WebScan SMTP for NT (http://www.nai.com).  This is service
works on port 25.
So before installing this package, you must change Worldmail SMTP port to
something else (not 25).  To acomplish this, some registry hacking is needed
(ouch).  Check eudora.com site.

McAfee is about to launch a new version of its product wich, they promise,
to be much less buggy than the actual one.  Don't take  me wrong, the actual
version (3.5) is a-ok, the administrator user interface is Java based and
it's very slooow.

Be happy,
 Andrew McClymont

PS:  it DOES allow you to warn the user of the virus, it has a thousands
options to block mail


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rakesh Agrawal [mailto:rakesh at mail.pipingtech dot com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 7:16 PM
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: scan attachments for viruses?
>
>
> How can I setup worldmail so that its scans attachments for
> viruses and if
> viruses are encountered it returns them to sender with some sort of a
> message?  Is it possible to do this with worldmail?
>
> --Rakesh
> --------------------------------------------
> Rakesh Agrawal, rakesh at mail.pipingtech dot com
> +1-713-731-0030 ext 122
> +1-713-731-8640 fax
> Piping Technology & Products, Inc.
> Pipe Supports … Expansion Joints … ASME/Misc Fabrication
> http://www.pipingtech.com/
>

From: Peter Martin <p.martin at initialshorrock.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: scan attachments for viruses?
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 14:28:46 +-100

I use a product call Trend VirusWall to do exactly the same as below, =
just thought I'd give you a couple options.

www.trend.com 

Peter
----------
From: 	Andrew McClymont
Sent: 	13 April 2000 14:18
To: 	Rakesh Agrawal
Cc: 	worldmail at lists.pensive dot org
Subject: 	RE: scan attachments for viruses?

You need McAfee WebScan SMTP for NT (http://www.nai.com).  This is =
service
works on port 25.
So before installing this package, you must change Worldmail SMTP port =
to
something else (not 25).  To acomplish this, some registry hacking is =
needed
(ouch).  Check eudora.com site.

McAfee is about to launch a new version of its product wich, they =
promise,
to be much less buggy than the actual one.  Don't take  me wrong, the =
actual
version (3.5) is a-ok, the administrator user interface is Java based =
and
it's very slooow.

Be happy,
 Andrew McClymont

PS:  it DOES allow you to warn the user of the virus, it has a thousands
options to block mail


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rakesh Agrawal [mailto:rakesh at mail.pipingtech dot com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 7:16 PM
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: scan attachments for viruses?
>
>
> How can I setup worldmail so that its scans attachments for
> viruses and if
> viruses are encountered it returns them to sender with some sort of a
> message?  Is it possible to do this with worldmail?
>
> --Rakesh
> --------------------------------------------
> Rakesh Agrawal, rakesh at mail.pipingtech dot com
> +1-713-731-0030 ext 122
> +1-713-731-8640 fax
> Piping Technology & Products, Inc.
> Pipe Supports · Expansion Joints · ASME/Misc Fabrication
> http://www.pipingtech.com/
>

From: "Paul Webster" <paul at websterfamily.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: scan attachments for viruses?
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:11:26 +0100

3rd-party products like TrendMicro VirusWall or Content Technologies
MIMESweeper [plus virus scanner] can be added in.
Basically they listen on port 25 and scan the message before WorldMail
server sees it.
If you want to run it on the same machine as WorldMail - then you would have
to change the default port number that WorldMai listens on [registry]

Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Rakesh Agrawal [mailto:rakesh at mail.pipingtech dot com]
Sent: 12 April 2000 23:16
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: scan attachments for viruses?


How can I setup worldmail so that its scans attachments for viruses and if
viruses are encountered it returns them to sender with some sort of a
message?  Is it possible to do this with worldmail?

--Rakesh
--------------------------------------------
Rakesh Agrawal, rakesh at mail.pipingtech dot com
+1-713-731-0030 ext 122
+1-713-731-8640 fax
Piping Technology & Products, Inc.
Pipe Supports … Expansion Joints … ASME/Misc Fabrication
http://www.pipingtech.com/

Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:34:26 -0700
From: Ric Wall <ric_w at sfnt02.cahwnet dot gov>
Subject: Users on vacation

Does anyone know whether there is a way of automatically
replying to incoming messages when a user is on vacation?

either on the worldmail server or on the eudora client side of the world.

In other words, if i write you an e-mail and you are very busy working
on a project in Tahiti, can your mailbox automatically respond and
say

"Go Away, I am busy drinking my pina colada and chasing beautiful
boys or girls."


-thanks

Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 14:57:27 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Users on vacation

At 11:34 AM -0700 4/14/00, Ric Wall wrote:

>Does anyone know whether there is a way of automatically
>replying to incoming messages when a user is on vacation?
>
>either on the worldmail server or on the eudora client side of the world.
>
>In other words, if i write you an e-mail and you are very busy working
>on a project in Tahiti, can your mailbox automatically respond and
>say
>
>"Go Away, I am busy drinking my pina colada and chasing beautiful
>boys or girls."
>
>
>-thanks

This can be done with an IMDA plug-in, the SDK for which is on the 
ISOCOR web site (somewhat harder to find these days).  I have written 
code that does this, but the way the IMDA SDK license is written I am 
not permitted to give it to anyone.  ISOCOR says this is not the 
intent (they actually want people to be able to write and distribute 
their plug-ins), but this hasn't been clarified yet.

It is dangerous to use the auto-reply feature for vacation mail, 
since it will send responses to mailing list traffic, which annoys a 
great many people and can cause all sorts of problems.

You can also do this fairly easily with Eudora.  On the Mac, you can 
even refrain from sending more than one to the same person (depending 
on how much mail you get).  First create a message with the text you 
want to send (about the beautiful boys or girls and the fancy drinks) 
and do a "save as" and click "stationery".  Give it a name, such as 
"vacation-mail-msg".  Then create two filters such as

     if
     header [To:] [intersects nickname] [me]
     [and]
     header [From:] [doesn't intersect nickname] [history list]

     [reply with] [vacation-mail-msg]
     [remember sender]
     [skip rest]

and

     if
     header [Cc:] [intersects nickname] [me]
     [and]
     header [From:] [doesn't intersect nickname] [history list]

     [reply with] [vacation-mail-msg]
     [remember sender]
     [skip rest]

If you're using Windows Eudora, I think the "remember sender" filter 
action isn't available, so you create only one filter, such as:

     if
     header [To:] [intersects nickname] [me]
     [or]
     header [Cc:] [intersects nickname] [me]

     [reply with] [vacation-mail-msg]
     [skip rest]
-- 
Randall Gellens
rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com
Opinions are personal;     facts are suspect;     I speak for myself only

Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:35:46 -0700
From: Ric Wall <ric_w at sfnt02.cahwnet dot gov>
Subject: Users on vacation

From: "Darren Farmer" <farmerd at adspower dot com>
Subject: Firewalls
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:47:15 -0500

Sorry if this is a FAQ, is there a FAQ?

What are the proper ports to "turn on" for access through the firewall?

110 and 25 are obvious.  I think 8888 should also be allowed.  What else?

-DF

From: "Andrew McClymont" <andrewmcclymont at d-link dot net>
Subject: ISOCOR sdk
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:01:46 -0300

I'm trying to find the mentioned ISOCOR sdk or any kind of plugins to
enhance worldmail functionality.
Wich is the right url?

Thanks in advance,
 Andrew McClymont


> This can be done with an IMDA plug-in, the SDK for which is on the
> ISOCOR web site (somewhat harder to find these days).  I have written
> code that does this, but the way the IMDA SDK license is written I am
> not permitted to give it to anyone.  ISOCOR says this is not the
> intent (they actually want people to be able to write and distribute
> their plug-ins), but this hasn't been clarified yet.
> --
> Randall Gellens
> rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com
> Opinions are personal;     facts are suspect;     I speak for myself only

From: "Douglas Anderson" <dandersn at purdue dot edu>
Subject: Re: Users on vacation
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 13:31:28 -0500

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Why write a plug-in when the WorldMail Personal Account Manager can do =
this.  The PAM can be located by loding a browser with Java and typing =
in the URL to your mail server with the port 8888, like =
http://www.maildomain.com:8888/
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ric Wall 
  To: Subscribers of WorldMail 
  Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 11:35 AM
  Subject: Users on vacation


  Thanks, Randall.  I found an easy way to do this is to use the =
auto-reply feature of Eudora client.
  -Ric
  =======================



  At 11:34 AM -0700 4/14/00, Ric Wall wrote:
  Does anyone know whether there is a way of automatically 
  replying to incoming messages when a user is on vacation?
  either on the worldmail server or on the eudora client side of the =
world.
  In other words, if i write you an e-mail and you are very busy working =

  on a project in Tahiti, can your mailbox automatically respond and 
  say
  "Go Away, I am busy drinking my pina colada and chasing beautiful 
  boys or girls."

  -thanks
  This can be done with an IMDA plug-in, the SDK for which is on the =
ISOCOR web site (somewhat harder to find these days). I have written =
code that does this, but the way the IMDA SDK license is written I am =
not permitted to give it to anyone. ISOCOR says this is not the intent =
(they actually want people to be able to write and distribute their =
plug-ins), but this hasn't been clarified yet.
  It is dangerous to use the auto-reply feature for vacation mail, since =
it will send responses to mailing list traffic, which annoys a great =
many people and can cause all sorts of problems.
  You can also do this fairly easily with Eudora. On the Mac, you can =
even refrain from sending more than one to the same person (depending on =
how much mail you get). First create a message with the text you want to =
send (about the beautiful boys or girls and the fancy drinks) and do a =
"save as" and click "stationery". Give it a name, such as =
"vacation-mail-msg". Then create two filters such as
  if 
  header [To:] [intersects nickname] [me] 
  [and] 
  header [From:] [doesn't intersect nickname] [history list]
  [reply with] [vacation-mail-msg] 
  [remember sender] 
  [skip rest]
  and
  if 
  header [Cc:] [intersects nickname] [me] 
  [and] 
  header [From:] [doesn't intersect nickname] [history list]
  [reply with] [vacation-mail-msg] 
  [remember sender] 
  [skip rest]
  If you're using Windows Eudora, I think the "remember sender" filter =
action isn't available, so you create only one filter, such as:
  if 
  header [To:] [intersects nickname] [me] 
  [or] 
  header [Cc:] [intersects nickname] [me]
  [reply with] [vacation-mail-msg] 
  [skip rest] 
  -- 
  Randall Gellens 
  rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com 
  Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Why write a plug-in when the WorldMail =
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black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A href="mailto:ric_w at sfnt02 dot cahwnet dot gov" =
title=ric_w at sfnt02.cahwnet dot gov>Ric 
  Wall</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
  href="mailto:worldmail at lists dot pensive dot org" 
  title=worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>Subscribers of WorldMail</A> =
</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 17, 2000 =
11:35 
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Users on =
vacation</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Thanks, Randall.  I found an easy way to do this =
is to use 
  the auto-reply feature of Eudora 
  =
client.<BR>-Ric<BR>===================
=====<BR><BR><BR><BR>At 11:34 AM -0700 
  4/14/00, Ric Wall wrote:<BR>Does anyone know whether there is a way of =

  automatically <BR>replying to incoming messages when a user is on 
  vacation?<BR>either on the worldmail server or on the eudora client =
side of 
  the world.<BR>In other words, if i write you an e-mail and you are =
very busy 
  working <BR>on a project in Tahiti, can your mailbox automatically =
respond and 
  <BR>say<BR>"Go Away, I am busy drinking my pina colada and chasing =
beautiful 
  <BR>boys or girls."<BR><BR>-thanks<BR>This can be done with an IMDA =
plug-in, 
  the SDK for which is on the ISOCOR web site (somewhat harder to find =
these 
  days). I have written code that does this, but the way the IMDA SDK =
license is 
  written I am not permitted to give it to anyone. ISOCOR says this is =
not the 
  intent (they actually want people to be able to write and distribute =
their 
  plug-ins), but this hasn't been clarified yet.<BR>It is dangerous to =
use the 
  auto-reply feature for vacation mail, since it will send responses to =
mailing 
  list traffic, which annoys a great many people and can cause all sorts =
of 
  problems.<BR>You can also do this fairly easily with Eudora. On the =
Mac, you 
  can even refrain from sending more than one to the same person =
(depending on 
  how much mail you get). First create a message with the text you want =
to send 
  (about the beautiful boys or girls and the fancy drinks) and do a =
"save as" 
  and click "stationery". Give it a name, such as "vacation-mail-msg". =
Then 
  create two filters such as<BR>if <BR>header [To:] [intersects =
nickname] [me] 
  <BR>[and] <BR>header [From:] [doesn't intersect nickname] [history 
  list]<BR>[reply with] [vacation-mail-msg] <BR>[remember sender] =
<BR>[skip 
  rest]<BR>and<BR>if <BR>header [Cc:] [intersects nickname] [me] =
<BR>[and] 
  <BR>header [From:] [doesn't intersect nickname] [history =
list]<BR>[reply with] 
  [vacation-mail-msg] <BR>[remember sender] <BR>[skip rest]<BR>If you're =
using 
  Windows Eudora, I think the "remember sender" filter action isn't =
available, 
  so you create only one filter, such as:<BR>if <BR>header [To:] =
[intersects 
  nickname] [me] <BR>[or] <BR>header [Cc:] [intersects nickname] =
[me]<BR>[reply 
  with] [vacation-mail-msg] <BR>[skip rest] <BR>-- <BR>Randall Gellens 
  <BR>rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com <BR>Opinions are personal; =
facts are 
  suspect; I speak for myself only<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:55:40 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: ISOCOR sdk

At 2:01 PM -0300 4/17/00, Andrew McClymont wrote:

>I'm trying to find the mentioned ISOCOR sdk or any kind of plugins to
>enhance worldmail functionality.
>Wich is the right url?

Go to <http://www.cp.net/solutions/downloads.html> and look for 
"N-PLEX API Software Development Kit".
-- 
Randall Gellens
rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com
Opinions are personal;     facts are suspect;     I speak for myself only

Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:21:16 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Users on vacation

At 1:31 PM -0500 4/17/00, Douglas Anderson wrote:

>Why write a plug-in when the WorldMail Personal Account Manager can do this.


At 2:57 PM -0700 4/16/00, I wrote:

>It is dangerous to use the auto-reply feature for vacation mail, 
>since it will send responses to mailing list traffic, which annoys a 
>great many people and can cause all sorts of problems.

Auto-reply should not be used for vacation notices.  Auto-reply 
should only be used for special accounts for which auto-reply is 
always desired.
-- 
Randall Gellens
rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com
Opinions are personal;     facts are suspect;     I speak for myself only

Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:29:05 -0700
From: Listmaster <listmaster at lists.pensive dot org>
Subject: New Anti-Spam Measures

One of the public Pensive lists was just spammed.  Accordingly, I 
have added restrictions to the lists.  I had been reluctant to do so 
previously, because this makes it less convenient for people to use.

Effective immediately, only subscribers can post.  I realize how 
annoying this can be, since you may be subscribed using one address, 
but try and post from another.  No one likes having his or her 
messages returned because the address wasn't subscribed.  One way to 
mitigate this is to subscribe all your addresses, and set all but one 
for NOMAIL.

From: "Dan Bullock" <danb at hawkgt dot com>
Subject: RE: Server-level Spam Filters?
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 22:27:16 -0400

Hopefully you have your server behind a firewall.  While in the process of
looking to replace WorldMail with a product which has more than IP based
anti-spam features, I've implemented quite effective anti-spam policies on
my firewall.  It works incredibly well.

All incoming mail must meet 1 of 2 tests.  The TO address must be an address
of one of my domains, so this allows local users to use the SMTP server.  Or
the FROM address must be to a user in one of my domains.

A spammers way around this would be to use a fake account name from my
domain in the TO field and the mail would be accepted.  So since I don't
have many users, I will modify the first rule to require specific TO
addresses.  So for example if joe at domain dot com is a valid account he can send
mail, but if fake at domain dot com attempts to send mail they are rejected by the
server.

It would be preferable to also have a filter on WorldMail itself though.

-Dan




-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Hahn [mailto:hahnmt at zender dot com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 12:01 PM
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: RE: Server-level Spam Filters?


Has anyone written one of these filters?

An incredibly useful filter would be one which could validate the sender's
return address as being a valid account in the worldmail system.  Perhaps
someone has already seen this need and created one.


-----Original Message-----
From: Randall Gellens [mailto:rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com]
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 6:25 PM
To: Gabriel Caunt; Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Re: Server-level Spam Filters?


At 8:58 AM -0600 3/24/00, Gabriel Caunt wrote:

>What are the options (if any) on filtering spam out at the server level
>for all of the users in my domain using a Worldmail server?

You can use the IMSFA (Internet Mail Security Filter API) mechanism,
but you would have to create a DLL that becomes a plug-in.  I believe
the ISOCOR web site has instructions and an SDK, which includes a
sample plug-in that can be modified.
--
Randall Gellens
rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com
Opinions are personal;     facts are suspect;     I speak for myself only

From: "Andrew McClymont" <andrewmcclymont at d-link dot net>
Subject: RE: Server-level Spam Filters?
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 02:11:04 -0300

What firewall product do you use?  Is this a standard feature among all
firewalls?
We currently use MS-Proxy 2.0 on WinNT4, I don't recall seeing anything like
that among its features.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

 Andrew McClymont

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Bullock [mailto:danb at hawkgt dot com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 11:27 PM
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: RE: Server-level Spam Filters?
>
>
> Hopefully you have your server behind a firewall.  While in the process of
> looking to replace WorldMail with a product which has more than IP based
> anti-spam features, I've implemented quite effective anti-spam policies on
> my firewall.  It works incredibly well.
>
> All incoming mail must meet 1 of 2 tests.  The TO address must be
> an address
> of one of my domains, so this allows local users to use the SMTP
> server.  Or
> the FROM address must be to a user in one of my domains.
>
> A spammers way around this would be to use a fake account name from my
> domain in the TO field and the mail would be accepted.  So since I don't
> have many users, I will modify the first rule to require specific TO
> addresses.  So for example if joe at domain dot com is a valid account
> he can send
> mail, but if fake at domain dot com attempts to send mail they are
> rejected by the
> server.
>
> It would be preferable to also have a filter on WorldMail itself though.
>
> -Dan
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Hahn [mailto:hahnmt at zender dot com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 12:01 PM
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: RE: Server-level Spam Filters?
>
>
> Has anyone written one of these filters?
>
> An incredibly useful filter would be one which could validate the sender's
> return address as being a valid account in the worldmail system.  Perhaps
> someone has already seen this need and created one.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Randall Gellens [mailto:rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com]
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 6:25 PM
> To: Gabriel Caunt; Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: Re: Server-level Spam Filters?
>
>
> At 8:58 AM -0600 3/24/00, Gabriel Caunt wrote:
>
> >What are the options (if any) on filtering spam out at the server level
> >for all of the users in my domain using a Worldmail server?
>
> You can use the IMSFA (Internet Mail Security Filter API) mechanism,
> but you would have to create a DLL that becomes a plug-in.  I believe
> the ISOCOR web site has instructions and an SDK, which includes a
> sample plug-in that can be modified.
> --
> Randall Gellens
> rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com
> Opinions are personal;     facts are suspect;     I speak for myself only
>

From: "Lee Patterson" <lee at optexint dot com>
Subject: SMTPD.EXE and autodial
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 13:20:13 +0100

After many failed attempts at trying to configure our NT 4 server, SP6a to
autodial and send/receive all mail I have decided to try another tact.

I have decided to schedule a small batch file to run from the command line
and use RasPhone to dial up our ISP and then use SMTP to deliver and receive
all mail.

However, when I use SMTP -d deliver from the command line nothing happens
and a message appears in the SMTP log file with:
MGR login failed

The same thing happens when I issue a SMTP -turn

Any idea on the usage of this command to send/receive all mail from the
command line? Are there any third party utilities that will do this?
Essentially I want to schedule a job to run every hour and send/receive all
mail. I can't for the life of me get autodial to work!

Thanks,

Lee Patterson
IT Support
OpTex
lee at optexint dot com

From: "Dan Bullock" <danb at hawkgt dot com>
Subject: RE: Server-level Spam Filters?
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:29:26 -0400

I'm using CheckPoint Firewall-1.  It has an SMTP security feature which
basically acts as a proxy for mail.

If you're looking for the same functionality I would get the NT Sendmail Pro
SMTP server from sendmail.com and install it on the same box.  Set WorldMail
SMTP to listen on a high port such as 1234 and have SendMail listen on port
25.  Point SendMail to forward all mail to WorldMail on its port 1234.

Incoming travels this path:
  Intenet->SendMail->WorldMail(port1234)->localuser

Outgoing mail travels this path:
  localuser->SendMail->Internet

Now you can use the spam functions of SendMail and even use the MAP RBL to
deny known spam sites.

In addition to my firewall limiting relaying I'm going to implement the
setup I've described above.

-Dan

MAPS RBL can be found at http://maps.vix.com/
ORBS can be found at http://relays.osirusoft.com/
Site describing how to stop 3rd party relaying for various SMTP server
software http://www.mail-abuse.org/tsi/ar-fix.html





-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew McClymont [mailto:andrewmcclymont at d-link dot net]
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 1:11 AM
To: Dan Bullock
Cc: worldmail at lists.pensive dot org
Subject: RE: Server-level Spam Filters?


What firewall product do you use?  Is this a standard feature among all
firewalls?
We currently use MS-Proxy 2.0 on WinNT4, I don't recall seeing anything like
that among its features.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

 Andrew McClymont

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Bullock [mailto:danb at hawkgt dot com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 11:27 PM
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: RE: Server-level Spam Filters?
>
>
> Hopefully you have your server behind a firewall.  While in the process of
> looking to replace WorldMail with a product which has more than IP based
> anti-spam features, I've implemented quite effective anti-spam policies on
> my firewall.  It works incredibly well.
>
> All incoming mail must meet 1 of 2 tests.  The TO address must be
> an address
> of one of my domains, so this allows local users to use the SMTP
> server.  Or
> the FROM address must be to a user in one of my domains.
>
> A spammers way around this would be to use a fake account name from my
> domain in the TO field and the mail would be accepted.  So since I don't
> have many users, I will modify the first rule to require specific TO
> addresses.  So for example if joe at domain dot com is a valid account
> he can send
> mail, but if fake at domain dot com attempts to send mail they are
> rejected by the
> server.
>
> It would be preferable to also have a filter on WorldMail itself though.
>
> -Dan
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Hahn [mailto:hahnmt at zender dot com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 12:01 PM
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: RE: Server-level Spam Filters?
>
>
> Has anyone written one of these filters?
>
> An incredibly useful filter would be one which could validate the sender's
> return address as being a valid account in the worldmail system.  Perhaps
> someone has already seen this need and created one.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Randall Gellens [mailto:rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com]
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 6:25 PM
> To: Gabriel Caunt; Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: Re: Server-level Spam Filters?
>
>
> At 8:58 AM -0600 3/24/00, Gabriel Caunt wrote:
>
> >What are the options (if any) on filtering spam out at the server level
> >for all of the users in my domain using a Worldmail server?
>
> You can use the IMSFA (Internet Mail Security Filter API) mechanism,
> but you would have to create a DLL that becomes a plug-in.  I believe
> the ISOCOR web site has instructions and an SDK, which includes a
> sample plug-in that can be modified.
> --
> Randall Gellens
> rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com
> Opinions are personal;     facts are suspect;     I speak for myself only
>