The worldmail list archive ending on 18 Jan 2002
Topics covered in this issue include:
1. RE: Security hole
"Chris Lander" <chris at altuscorp dot com>
Thu, 6 Dec 2001 08:44:28 -0800
2. NAV & W2K
Ferris Hall <ferris at ferrishall dot com>
Thu, 06 Dec 2001 11:48:57 -0500
3. RE: Win 2000
James Sanders <jsanders at easter-seals dot org>
Thu, 6 Dec 2001 10:43:37 -0600
4. Problem with Geographical Domains..
James Sanders <jsanders at easter-seals dot org>
Thu, 6 Dec 2001 12:09:11 -0600
5. Importing Outlook or Netscape address book
LHA MIS <mis at lhaarchitects dot com>
Thu, 06 Dec 2001 10:38:58 -0800
6. Re: NAV & W2K
Chris Hinch <chinch at arl.co dot nz>
Fri, 07 Dec 2001 09:21:15 +1300
7. Cannot explode dist list
"Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:42:41 -0600
8. Re:RE: Win 2000
rhyde at coilcraft dot com
Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:50:53 -0600
9. RE: Problem with Geographical Domains..
"Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Thu, 6 Dec 2001 21:16:28 -0000
10. RE: Cannot explode dist list
"Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Thu, 6 Dec 2001 21:10:23 -0000
11. RE: Problem with Geographical Domains..
James Sanders <jsanders at easter-seals dot org>
Thu, 6 Dec 2001 16:25:57 -0600
12. Outgoing Mail Tracking
"Sebastian" <sebas at webmaster.com dot sg>
Fri, 7 Dec 2001 13:13:40 +0800
13. Re: Outgoing Mail Tracking
Garry Wiegand <squeezix at ithaca dot com>
Fri, 07 Dec 2001 07:29:41 -0800
14. Re: Outgoing Mail Tracking
"Sebastian" <sebas at webmaster.com dot sg>
Sat, 8 Dec 2001 02:39:23 +0800
15. RE: Outgoing Mail Tracking
"Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Fri, 7 Dec 2001 16:39:30 -0000
16. Re: Outgoing Mail Tracking
squeezix at ithaca dot com
Sat, 08 Dec 2001 07:17:27 -0800
17. Re: Outgoing Mail Tracking
"Sebastian" <sebas at webmaster.com dot sg>
Sun, 9 Dec 2001 15:04:50 +0800
18. Installation
"Sebastian" <sebas at webmaster.com dot sg>
Sat, 29 Dec 2001 01:04:06 +0800
19. Re: Installation
"Matt Hemingway" <matt at supplyedge dot com>
Fri, 28 Dec 2001 09:14:23 -0800
20. Re: Installation
William Hultman <whultman at home dot com>
Fri, 28 Dec 2001 09:22:49 -0800
21. RE: Installation
"Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Sun, 30 Dec 2001 20:57:20 -0000
22. How to block this guy...
Keith Lockliear <ws6ta at lvcm dot com>
Tue, 01 Jan 2002 17:35:17 -0800
23. Re: How to block this guy...
Keith Lockliear <ws6ta at lvcm dot com>
Tue, 01 Jan 2002 18:17:14 -0800
24. form submits
Alan Leiman <surfeagle at mho dot net>
Wed, 02 Jan 2002 04:33:28 -0700
25. Cannot Activate Worldmail with Supplied License Key
Andrew Happ <andyh at triode.net dot au>
Wed, 02 Jan 2002 23:19:16 +1100
26. RE: Cannot Activate Worldmail with Supplied License Key
"Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Wed, 2 Jan 2002 15:17:18 -0000
27. Cannot Activate Worldmail with Supplied License Key - UPDATE
Andrew Happ <andyh at triode.net dot au>
Thu, 03 Jan 2002 13:44:43 +1100
28. Cannot Activate Worldmail with Supplied License Key - UPDATE 2
Andrew Happ <andyh at triode.net dot au>
Thu, 03 Jan 2002 22:43:09 +1100
29. RE: Cannot Activate Worldmail with Supplied License Key
"Jill Crawford" <jillc at golfpactravel dot com>
Thu, 3 Jan 2002 15:56:15 -0500
30. SMTP LOGS
"Mark Hardee (Seamless Graphics)" <mark at seamlessgraphics dot com>
Fri, 04 Jan 2002 09:11:24 -0600
31. Domain Name Issues & Win2K
Andrew Happ <andyh at triode.net dot au>
Sun, 06 Jan 2002 23:11:54 +1100
32. RE: Domain Name Issues & Win2K
"Art Lazanoff" <art at parrotbyte dot com>
Sun, 6 Jan 2002 10:45:01 -0800
33. RE: Security hole
Randall Gellens <rg_public.1 at flagg.qualcomm dot com>
Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:28:35 -0800
34. RE: Security hole
"Ben Saren" <ben at atomicusa dot com>
Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:37:17 -0500
35. Re: How to block this guy...
Keith Lockliear <ws6ta at LVCM dot COM>
Mon, 07 Jan 2002 22:39:36 -0800
36. RE: How to block this guy...
"Art Lazanoff" <art at parrotbyte dot com>
Mon, 7 Jan 2002 22:54:01 -0800
37.
bennya at totallyhip dot com (Benny Au-Young)
38. SMTP STATS
"Mark Hardee (Seamless Graphics)" <mark at seamlessgraphics dot com>
Tue, 15 Jan 2002 07:40:30 -0600
39. ETRN Support & Alternative Method
Andrew <andyh at triode.net dot au>
Wed, 16 Jan 2002 16:20:46 +1100
40. fake mail sender
"Vesa Virtanen" <vesa.virtanen at faf.mil dot fi>
Wed, 16 Jan 2002 08:15:33 +0200
41. Worldmail web-based?
"Sebastian" <sebas at webmaster.com dot sg>
Wed, 16 Jan 2002 15:55:54 +0800
42. RE: ETRN Support & Alternative Method
"Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Wed, 16 Jan 2002 08:03:40 -0000
43. RE: fake mail sender
"Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Wed, 16 Jan 2002 07:42:04 -0000
44. RE: Worldmail web-based?
"Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Wed, 16 Jan 2002 08:42:30 -0000
45. RE: fake mail sender
"Ben Saren" <ben at atomicusa dot com>
Wed, 16 Jan 2002 08:15:48 -0500
46. How can I forward an existing user's email?
Paul Kaler <paul at texmemsys dot com>
Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:10:35 -0600
47. Re: How can I forward an existing user's email?
ws6ta at lvcm dot com
Wed, 16 Jan 2002 08:46:03 -0800
48. Invalid destination email address: no feedback
LHA MIS <mis at lhaarchitects dot com>
Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:36:28 -0800
49. Re: fake mail sender
Garry Wiegand <squeezix at ithaca dot com>
Fri, 18 Jan 2002 00:10:06 -0800
50. RE: fake mail sender
"Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Fri, 18 Jan 2002 10:31:24 -0000
From: "Chris Lander" <chris at altuscorp dot com>
Subject: RE: Security hole
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 08:44:28 -0800
Judging from Eudora's record of WorldMail maintenance and upgrades, I'd say
there's little to no chance that a patch or hotfix will be released for
this.
Is there away to disable Eudora's LDAP service? AFAIK, we're not using it,
and there's no real reason to have it running.
+---------------------------------------------------------+
Chris Lander Altus Learning Systems, Inc.
chris at altuscorp dot com (408) 210-7409
+---------------------------------------------------------+
PGP: 7495 24C2 D383 CF7B 1AA3 2788 4F5D ACE1 AC15 9FDD
-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Saren [mailto:ben at atomicusa dot com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 22:57
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Security hole
I was trying to get NAV for Gateways to run with Eudora Worldmail, and was
having no luck. I just cant seem to get it right. If anyone has any
experience with this, id love to hear from you.
In my search for answers, I came across this. As you will see... at a
reputable site: http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/717380
........................................
Ben Saren
Atomic Enterprises
ben at atomicusa dot com
(781) 665-5036
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 11:48:57 -0500
From: Ferris Hall <ferris at ferrishall dot com>
Subject: NAV & W2K
At 02:08 AM 12/6/2001, "Sebastian" wrote:
does Win 2000 OS support worldmail 2.0?
Yes. I'm running Win2000 Pro server and WorldMail, with
NAV
Gateway in front.
See registry
note for set up.
"It is possible to run WorldMail on both the Windows 2000 and
Windows XP platforms..."
-------------------
Ben Wrote:
I was trying to get NAV for Gateways to run with Eudora Worldmail, and
was having no luck. I just cant seem to get it right. If anyone has any
experience with this, id love to hear from you.
Hey Ben,
I have it up and running OK, though it took a bit of work to iron out the
NAV set up.
Guess I should add that I finally got NAV support on the phone to help
troubleshoot, and we fixed it right up.
I have WorldMail listening on port 1026 (sort of randomly chosen, wish I
had had this nice
port list. Might recommend "The Dynamic and/or Private Ports are
those from 49152 through 65535").
The trick was to get NAV relay settings correct. i posted some
screen shots. also might take
note of this info page i made
for users.
the spam blocking feature is rudimentary, limited to the subject line,
but effective (although NAV site info does not seem to mention it -
?).
The problem I think I AM having, is that I think the WorldMail security
policy (no relaying) is no longer in effect. Haven't had time to confirm
or track the problem.
NAV has External Relay Restrictions for all mail with a non-local
destination, but I have not gotten that to work - blocks too much
outgoing mail. Couldn't get it to mimic my WM relay IP settings. Guess
I'll call NAV again...
--i see Chris Lander got the first answer already. and i second his LDAP
question.
Ferris
www.ferrishall.com/stars
From: James Sanders <jsanders at easter-seals dot org>
Subject: RE: Win 2000
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 10:43:37 -0600
I'd like to know the answer to this as well. Thanks.
James C. Sanders, MCSE, MCDBA
Enterprise Resource Specialist for
Easter Seals, Chicago
104 Meadowbrook Drive
Jackson, TN 38301
(731) 423-3524
_______________________
Visit http://www.easter-seals.org to learn more about how Easter Seals helps
children and adults with disabilities and their families.
-----Original Message-----
From: Sebastian [mailto:sebas at webmaster.com dot sg]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 1:09 AM
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Win 2000
Hi there,
does Win 2000 OS support worldmail 2.0?
regards,
Sebastian Quek
Webmaster Internet Services
Address:
470 North Bridge Road
#03-03 Singapore Finance House
Singapore 188735
Tel: 65-254 4601 Fax: 65-358 4386
Email: info at webmaster.com dot sg
URL: http://www.webmaster.com.sg/
From: James Sanders <jsanders at easter-seals dot org>
Subject: Problem with Geographical Domains..
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 12:09:11 -0600
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To users of Worldmail:
We have just discovered that our Eudora Worldmail Server 2.0 does not seem
to deliver mail to "geographical" type domain names, such as
@state.<state-code>.us . Our Exchange Server delivers to this address with
no problems at all. Here is an error message I just received (user name
blanked intentionally) ...
----- The following recipients were processed by MTA amss.easter-seals.org
...
______ at state.sd.us <mailto:kristi.longbrake at state dot sd dot us> ; Action: Failed;
Status: 4.4.7 (delivery time expired)
Does anyone have any suggestions regarding this type of problem? Thanks in
advance for your attention.
James C. Sanders, MCSE, MCDBA
Enterprise Resource Specialist for
Easter Seals, Chicago
104 Meadowbrook Drive
Jackson, TN 38301
(731) 423-3524
_______________________
Visit <http://www.easter-seals.org> http://www.easter-seals.org to learn
more about how Easter Seals helps children and adults with disabilities and
their families.
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style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>We have just
discovered that our Eudora Worldmail Server 2.0 does not seem to
deliver mail
to “geographical” type domain names, such as
@state.<state-code>.us . Our
Exchange Server delivers to this address with no problems at all. Here
is an
error message I just received (user name blanked intentionally)
…<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:kristi.longbrake@state.sd.us">______@state.sd dot us</a>;
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style='font-size:11.0pt;
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font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>James C. Sanders, MCSE,
MCDBA<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></b></p>
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Resource
Specialist for<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></b></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New
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Chicago<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></b></p>
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</span>38301<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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href="http://www.easter-seals.org"><font
color="#333399"><span
style='color:#333399'>http://www.easter-seals.org</span></font></a></s
pan></u></i></b>
to learn more about how Easter Seals helps children and adults with
disabilities and their families.</span></font><font face="Times New
Roman"><span
style='font-family:"Times New
Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 10:38:58 -0800
From: LHA MIS <mis at lhaarchitects dot com>
Subject: Importing Outlook or Netscape address book
I am using Eudora Pro 4.3 and trying to import address book from my
MsOutlook 97.
My problem is that if I click on "File" and "Import...", the available two
check boxes are greyed out and the window above them is empty as well.
I have already read the support knowledge base about this, it says, that
you can not import MSOutlook version 97, only version 98 or 2000.
OK, so I converted the addresses from version 97 to Netscape LDIF file, but
I still can not go from step A to B.
Any suggestion?
Thanks,
Geza
Geza Levai
LAN Administrator
Leidenfrost/Horowitz & Associates
818-246-6050 ext.62
Glendale, CA
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 09:21:15 +1300
From: Chris Hinch <chinch at arl.co dot nz>
Subject: Re: NAV & W2K
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My experience with NAV for Gateways and WorldMail (two different
machines, NT4, SP6a) was that the NAV install *seemed* to go very well -
my first reaction was 'well, that was easy'. Right up until the time we
were blacklisted again for being an open relay (we were closed before
the NAV install). I went back into the settings for external relaying,
and they were fine. I changed them to something else, and then back
again, and voila, no more relaying.
I have also found that my attachment blocking rules aren't always
honoured. I think I *may* have fixed it by specifying double extension
wildcards in the exclude list (eg *.*.scr, *.*.exe etc)
Lessons? Check your open relay status after install. Don't take my
double extension check as gospel, but it might pay to think about it.
Biggest lesson of all? Use a mail gateway anti virus package. We're only
a small company (30 people) and we're blocking up to a dozen viruses or
trojans *each* day!!
Chris
Ferris Hall wrote:
> At 02:08 AM 12/6/2001, "Sebastian" wrote:
> does Win 2000 OS support worldmail 2.0?
>
> Yes. I'm running Win2000 Pro server and WorldMail, with NAV Gateway in
> front.
> See registry note for set up.
> "It is possible to run WorldMail on both the Windows 2000 and Windows
> XP platforms..."
> -------------------
> Ben Wrote:
> I was trying to get NAV for Gateways to run with Eudora Worldmail, and
> was having no luck. I just cant seem to get it right. If anyone has
> any experience with this, id love to hear from you.
>
> Hey Ben,
> I have it up and running OK, though it took a bit of work to iron out
> the NAV set up.
> Guess I should add that I finally got NAV support on the phone to help
> troubleshoot, and we fixed it right up.
> I have WorldMail listening on port 1026 (sort of randomly chosen, wish
> I had had this nice port list. Might recommend "The Dynamic and/or
> Private Ports are those from 49152 through 65535").
> The trick was to get NAV relay settings correct. i posted some screen
> shots. also might take note of this info page i made for users.
> the spam blocking feature is rudimentary, limited to the subject line,
> but effective (although NAV site info does not seem to mention it -
> ?).
> The problem I think I AM having, is that I think the WorldMail
> security policy (no relaying) is no longer in effect. Haven't had time
> to confirm or track the problem.
> NAV has External Relay Restrictions for all mail with a non-local
> destination, but I have not gotten that to work - blocks too much
> outgoing mail. Couldn't get it to mimic my WM relay IP settings. Guess
> I'll call NAV again...
>
> --i see Chris Lander got the first answer already. and i second his
> LDAP question.
>
> Ferris
>
> www.ferrishall.com/stars
>
>
>
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My experience with NAV for Gateways and WorldMail (two different machines,
NT4, SP6a) was that the NAV install *seemed* to go very well - my first
reaction was 'well, that was easy'. Right up until the time we were blacklisted
again for being an open relay (we were closed before the NAV install).
I went back into the settings for external relaying, and they were fine.
I changed them to something else, and then back again, and voila, no more
relaying.
<p>I have also found that my attachment blocking rules aren't always honoured.
I think I *may* have fixed it by specifying double extension wildcards
in the exclude list (eg *.*.scr, *.*.exe etc)
<p>Lessons? Check your open relay status after install. Don't take
my double extension check as gospel, but it might pay to think about it.
Biggest lesson of all? Use a mail gateway anti virus package. We're only
a small company (30 people) and we're blocking up to a dozen viruses or
trojans *each* day!!
<p>Chris
<br>
<br>
<p>Ferris Hall wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE> At 02:08 AM 12/6/2001, "Sebastian" wrote:
<br>does Win 2000 OS support worldmail 2.0?
<p>Yes. I'm running Win2000 Pro server and WorldMail, with
<a href="http://enterprisesecurity.symantec.com/products/products.cfm?ProductID=29&PID‚02892">NAV
Gateway</a> in front.
<br>See <a href="http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/2041hq.html">registry
note</a> for set up.
<br>"It is possible to run WorldMail on both the Windows 2000 and Windows
XP platforms..."
<br>-------------------
<br>Ben Wrote:
<br>I was trying to get NAV for Gateways to run with Eudora Worldmail,
and was having no luck. I just cant seem to get it right. If anyone has
any experience with this, id love to hear from you.
<p>Hey Ben,
<br>I have it up and running OK, though it took a bit of work to iron out
the NAV set up.
<br>Guess I should add that I finally got NAV support on the phone to help
troubleshoot, and we fixed it right up.
<br>I have WorldMail listening on port 1026 (sort of randomly chosen, wish
I had had this <a href="http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers">nice
port list</a>. Might recommend "The Dynamic and/or Private Ports are those
from 49152 through 65535").
<br>The trick was to get NAV relay settings correct. i posted some
<a href="http://www.ferrishall.com/wm">screen
shots</a>. also might take note of <a href="http://mail.ferrishall.com/">this
info page </a>i made for users.
<br>the spam blocking feature is rudimentary, limited to the subject line,
but effective (although NAV site info does not seem to mention it - ?).
<br>The problem I think I AM having, is that I think the WorldMail security
policy (no relaying) is no longer in effect. Haven't had time to confirm
or track the problem.
<br>NAV has External Relay Restrictions for all mail with a non-local destination,
but I have not gotten that to work - blocks too much outgoing mail. Couldn't
get it to mimic my WM relay IP settings. Guess I'll call NAV again...
<p>--i see Chris Lander got the first answer already. and i second his
LDAP question.
<p>Ferris
<p><a href="http://www.ferrishall.com/stars" eudora="autourl">www.ferrishall.com/stars</a>
<br>
<br>
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From: "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:42:41 -0600
Subject: Cannot explode dist list
For administration purposes, I created multiple dist. lists (dist1,dist2 , dist3...) to group
my
users and one main one (distA) that contains these groups and other individual user
accts. distA is
set to accept only from distribution members and list type and control are "Public"
I found out that if a user from dist1 sends a message to distA it will get rejected
because a "mail
list expansion prohibited".
anyone has had the same issue and if there is a workaround?
The reason behind all this is to block access from the internet to distA
Elliott Bujan
Help Desk / MIS - Rentokil, TPS - USA
ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com
www.rentokil-tps.com
Elliott Bujan
MIS Dept. - Rentokil, TPS
847.634.4250 .x281 - www.rentokil-tps.com
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From: rhyde at coilcraft dot com
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:50:53 -0600
Subject: Re:RE: Win 2000
Check out the following link=2E
http://www=2Eeudora=2Ecom/techsupport/kb/2041hq=2Ehtml
____________________Reply Separator____________________
Subject: RE: Win 2000
Author: MIME:jsanders@easter-seals=2Eorg
Date: 12/6/2001 10:54 AM
I'd like to know the answer to this as well=2E Thanks=2E
James C=2E Sanders, MCSE, MCDBA
Enterprise Resource Specialist for
Easter Seals, Chicago
104 Meadowbrook Drive
Jackson, TN 38301
(731) 423-3524
_______________________
Visit http://www=2Eeaster-seals=2Eorg to learn more about how Easter Seals helps
children and adults with disabilities and their families=2E
-----Original Message-----
From: Sebastian [mailto:sebas@webmaster=2Ecom=2Esg]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 1:09 AM
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Win 2000
Hi there,
does Win 2000 OS support worldmail 2=2E0?
regards,
Sebastian Quek
Webmaster Internet Services
Address:
470 North Bridge Road
#03-03 Singapore Finance House
Singapore 188735
Tel: 65-254 4601 Fax: 65-358 4386
Email: info@webmaster=2Ecom=2Esg
URL: http://www=2Ewebmaster=2Ecom=2Esg/
Robert Hyde
Coilcraft, Inc=2E
Voice: 847-516-7323
Fax: 847-639-2370
e-mail: rhyde@coilcraft=2Ecom
From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Problem with Geographical Domains..
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 21:16:28 -0000
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I expect that the error message that you saw was at the end of a retry
cycle - there should have been a number of delivery attempts before that
-
and those error reports would give a better indication of the problem.
The particular State that you referred to seems to have the right sort of
data in DNS
state.sd.us MX preference = 10, mail exchanger
mailexchanger.state.sd.us
So you should see Worldmail trying to deliver to that server.
You can use the on-line tool from the Management Center to see how Worldm
ail
would route it - right click on Internet Mail and choose Name Server
Utilities [from memory].
If the problem is still not clear then run ISOTRACE and send a message to
that domain again watch what happens.
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: James Sanders [mailto:jsanders at easter-seals dot org]
Sent: 06 December 2001 18:09
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Problem with Geographical Domains..
To users of Worldmail:
We have just discovered that our Eudora Worldmail Server 2.0 does not see
m
to deliver mail to “geographical” type domain names, such as
@state.<state-code>.us . Our Exchange Server delivers to this address wit
h
no problems at all. Here is an error message I just received (user name
blanked intentionally) …
----- The following recipients were processed by MTA amss.easter-seals.o
rg
=2E..
______ at state.sd dot us; Action: Failed; Status: 4.4.7 (delivery time expired)
Does anyone have any suggestions regarding this type of problem? Thanks
in
advance for your attention.
James C. Sanders, MCSE, MCDBA
Enterprise Resource Specialist for
Easter Seals, Chicago
104 Meadowbrook Drive
Jackson, TN 38301
(731) 423-3524
_______________________
Visit http://www.easter-seals.org to learn more about how Easter Seals he
lps
children and adults with disabilities and their families.
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<DIV><SPAN class=575191221-06122001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>I
expect that the error message that you saw was at the end of a retry
cycle -
there should have been a number of delivery attempts before that - and
those
error reports would give a better indication of the
problem.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=575191221-06122001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=575191221-06122001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>The
particular State that you referred to seems to have the right sort of
data in
DNS</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=575191221-06122001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>state.sd.us MX preference = 10, mail
exchanger =
mailexchanger.state.sd.us</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=575191221-06122001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>So you
should see Worldmail trying to deliver to that
server.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=575191221-06122001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>You
can use the on-line tool from the Management Center to see how Worldmail
would
route it - right click on Internet Mail and choose Name Server Utilities
[from
memory].</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=575191221-06122001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=575191221-06122001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>If the
problem is still not clear then run ISOTRACE and send a message to that
domain
again watch what happens.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=575191221-06122001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=575191221-06122001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Paul</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> James Sanders
[mailto:jsanders at easter-seals dot org]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 06 December 2001
18:09<BR><B>To:</B> Subscribers of WorldMail<BR><B>Subject:</B> Problem
with
Geographical Domains..<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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users of Worldmail:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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Roman"
color=navy size=2><SPAN
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color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman';
mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">We
have just discovered that our Eudora Worldmail Server 2.0 does not seem
to
deliver mail to “geographical” type domain names, such as
@state.<state-code>.us . Our Exchange Server delivers to this
address with
no problems at all. Here is an error message I just received (user name
blanked
intentionally) …<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle15><FONT face="Times New
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">----- The
following
recipients were processed by MTA amss.easter-seals.org ...<BR><A
href="mailto:kristi.longbrake@state.sd.us">______@state.sd dot us</A>;
Action:
Failed; Status: 4.4.7 (delivery time
expired)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman';
mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">Does
anyone have any suggestions regarding this type of problem?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thanks in advance for your
attention.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Cannot explode dist list
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 21:10:23 -0000
I don't think that Worldmail expands the list of lists to see if the
submitter is allowed to use it - so as far as it is concerned ... the user
is not a member of DistA - which is pedantic but justifiable.
Depending on the size of your lists ... you could add all of the individuals
from dist1, dist2 etc into DistA ... clearly this could lead to
administrative pain and mistake - so next step could be to automate the
generation of the lists using scripted management commands.
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Elliott Bujan [mailto:ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com]
Sent: 06 December 2001 20:43
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Cannot explode dist list
For administration purposes, I created multiple dist. lists (dist1,dist2 ,
dist3...) to group
my
users and one main one (distA) that contains these groups and other
individual user
accts. distA is
set to accept only from distribution members and list type and control are
"Public"
I found out that if a user from dist1 sends a message to distA it will get
rejected
because a "mail
list expansion prohibited".
anyone has had the same issue and if there is a workaround?
The reason behind all this is to block access from the internet to distA
Elliott Bujan
Help Desk / MIS - Rentokil, TPS - USA
ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com
www.rentokil-tps.com
Elliott Bujan
MIS Dept. - Rentokil, TPS
847.634.4250 .x281 - www.rentokil-tps.com
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From: James Sanders <jsanders at easter-seals dot org>
Subject: RE: Problem with Geographical Domains..
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 16:25:57 -0600
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Many thanks, sir. I will try it.
James
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Webster [mailto:paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 3:16 PM
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: RE: Problem with Geographical Domains..
I expect that the error message that you saw was at the end of a retry cycle
- there should have been a number of delivery attempts before that - and
those error reports would give a better indication of the problem.
The particular State that you referred to seems to have the right sort of
data in DNS
state.sd.us MX preference = 10, mail exchanger
mailexchanger.state.sd.us
So you should see Worldmail trying to deliver to that server.
You can use the on-line tool from the Management Center to see how Worldmail
would route it - right click on Internet Mail and choose Name Server
Utilities [from memory].
If the problem is still not clear then run ISOTRACE and send a message to
that domain again watch what happens.
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: James Sanders [mailto:jsanders at easter-seals dot org]
Sent: 06 December 2001 18:09
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Problem with Geographical Domains..
To users of Worldmail:
We have just discovered that our Eudora Worldmail Server 2.0 does not seem
to deliver mail to "geographical" type domain names, such as
@state.<state-code>.us . Our Exchange Server delivers to this address with
no problems at all. Here is an error message I just received (user name
blanked intentionally) ...
----- The following recipients were processed by MTA amss.easter-seals.org
...
______ at state.sd.us <mailto:kristi.longbrake at state dot sd dot us> ; Action: Failed;
Status: 4.4.7 (delivery time expired)
Does anyone have any suggestions regarding this type of problem? Thanks in
advance for your attention.
James C. Sanders, MCSE, MCDBA
Enterprise Resource Specialist for
Easter Seals, Chicago
104 Meadowbrook Drive
Jackson, TN 38301
(731) 423-3524
_______________________
Visit <http://www.easter-seals.org> http://www.easter-seals.org to learn
more about how Easter Seals helps children and adults with disabilities and
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Paul Webster
[mailto:paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk]<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, December
06, 2001
3:16 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Subscribers of
WorldMail<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Problem
with
Geographical Domains..</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2
color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>I expect that the error message
that you
saw was at the end of a retry cycle - there should have been a number
of
delivery attempts before that - and those error reports would give a
better
indication of the problem.</span></font><font color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-family:"Times New
Roman";color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></
p>
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style='font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2
color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>The particular State that you
referred to
seems to have the right sort of data in DNS</span></font><font
color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-family:"Times New
Roman";color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2
color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>state.sd.us  
; MX
preference = 10, mail exchanger =
mailexchanger.state.sd.us</span></font><font
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2
color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>So you should see Worldmail
trying to
deliver to that server.</span></font><font color=black face="Times
New Roman"><span
style='font-family:"Times New
Roman";color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></
p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2
color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>You can use the on-line tool from
the
Management Center to see how Worldmail would route it - right click on
Internet
Mail and choose Name Server Utilities [from memory].</span></font><font
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
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color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2
color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>If the problem is still not clear
then run
ISOTRACE and send a message to that domain again watch what
happens.</span></font><font
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3
color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman"'> </span></font><font
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color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2
color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>Paul</span></font><font
color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-family:"Times New
Roman";color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal
style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black face="Times New
Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> James Sanders
[mailto:jsanders at easter-seals dot org]<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 06 December 2001
18:09<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Subscribers of
WorldMail<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Problem with
Geographical
Domains..</span></font><font color=black face="Times New
Roman"><span
style='font-family:"Times New
Roman";color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></
p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:
Arial'>To users of Worldmail:<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;
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Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:
Arial'>We have just discovered that our Eudora Worldmail Server 2.0
does not
seem to deliver mail to “geographical” type domain names,
such as
@state.<state-code>.us . Our Exchange Server delivers to this
address
with no problems at all. Here is an error message I just received (user
name
blanked intentionally) …<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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class=EmailStyle18><font
size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
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color=black
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt'>-----
The following recipients were processed by MTA amss.easter-seals.org
...<br>
<a href="mailto:kristi.longbrake@state.sd.us">______@state.sd dot us</a>;
Action:
Failed; Status: 4.4.7 (delivery time
expired)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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class=EmailStyle18><font
size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:
Arial'>Does anyone have any suggestions regarding this type of
problem?<span
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Thanks in advance for your
attention.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span
class=EmailStyle18><font
size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;
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style='font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:#333399'><span
style='mso-element:field-begin'></span><span
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>AUTOTEXTLIST \s "E-mail
Signature" <span
style='mso-element:field-separator'></span></span></font><![endif]--><
b><i><font
size=2 color="#333399" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:#333399;
font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>James C. Sanders, MCSE,
MCDBA<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><i><font size=2
color="#333399"
face="Times New Roman"><span
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mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:#333399;font-weight:bold;font-style:ita
lic'>Enterprise
Resource Specialist for<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></b></p>
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color="#333399"
face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:#333399;font-weight:bold;font-style:ita
lic'>Easter
Seals, Chicago<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></b></p>
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color="#333399"
face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:#333399'>104 Meadowbrook
Drive<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color="#333399"
face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:#333399'>Jackson, TN<span
style="mso-spacerun:
yes"> </span>38301<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color="#333399"
face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:#333399'>(731) 423-3524<b><span
style='font-weight:bold'><o:p></o:p></span></b></span></font></p>
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color="#333399"
face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";
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o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color="#333399" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Times New
Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:#333399'>Visit <b><i><u><span
style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'><a
href="http://www.easter-seals.org"><font
color="#333399"><span
style='color:#333399'>http://www.easter-seals.org</span></font></a></s
pan></u></i></b>
to learn more about how Easter Seals helps children and adults with
disabilities and their families.</span></font><font face="Times New
Roman"><span
style='font-family:"Times New
Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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From: "Sebastian" <sebas at webmaster.com dot sg>
Subject: Outgoing Mail Tracking
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 13:13:40 +0800
Hi there,
1. Is it possible that all outgoing mail will go to a mailbox and at the
same time send out.
The reason for doing so is for corporate company to track the outgoing mail
as a record, reference and security reasons.
Thanks.
Sebastian Quek
Webmaster Internet Services
From: Garry Wiegand <squeezix at ithaca dot com>
Subject: Re: Outgoing Mail Tracking
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 07:29:41 -0800
Sebastian Quek wrote:
>1. Is it possible that all outgoing mail will go to a mailbox and at the
>same time send out.
Well, you can do it one-by-one, for each user. Right-click on the user
name,
then Configure / Advanced / Send copy of all mail.
Garry
From: "Sebastian" <sebas at webmaster.com dot sg>
Subject: Re: Outgoing Mail Tracking
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 02:39:23 +0800
Well, the method is when a mail comes to the server. I need to find a way to
get all the mails going out of the server.
thanks,
Sebas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Garry Wiegand" <squeezix at ithaca dot com>
To: "Subscribers of WorldMail" <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: Outgoing Mail Tracking
Sebastian Quek wrote:
>1. Is it possible that all outgoing mail will go to a mailbox and at the
>same time send out.
Well, you can do it one-by-one, for each user. Right-click on the user name,
then Configure / Advanced / Send copy of all mail.
Garry
From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Outgoing Mail Tracking
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 16:39:30 -0000
I think that will catch inbound mail going to users - not outbound mail.
Double check to see if there is a registry setting for Archiving.
I suspect it is not in the GUI but might be in the software - the registry
key settings are defined in the PDF manuals.
If there is one then I think you will find that it is domain name based - so
providing the users submit mail FROM the right domain name then it would be
archived.
[I don't - and never have - run Worldmail - so I might have this wrong]
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Garry Wiegand [mailto:squeezix at ithaca dot com]
Sent: 07 December 2001 15:30
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Re: Outgoing Mail Tracking
Sebastian Quek wrote:
>1. Is it possible that all outgoing mail will go to a mailbox and at the
>same time send out.
Well, you can do it one-by-one, for each user. Right-click on the user name,
then Configure / Advanced / Send copy of all mail.
Garry
From: squeezix at ithaca dot com
Subject: Re: Outgoing Mail Tracking
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 07:17:27 -0800
Paul Webster wrote:
>I think that will catch inbound mail going to users - not outbound mail.
Oops. Sorry about the brain misfire.
How about this:
=09
Internet Mail / <right click> / Configure Server / Default
Outgoing Mail Settings / Queue all outgoing
mail until delivery is requested <enable>
According to the online help,
Queue all outgoing mail until delivery is requested:
When enabled, local mail is still delivered immediately, but any
outgoing mail to other SMTP servers remains in the message queue.
Delivery is only attempted when a remote server requests the mail
for its domain via the delivery request notification protocol, or
you choose to Resend messages in the queue.
Then create a shell script which every minute or two copies out the
accumulated messages from the queue, if any, then does an "smtpd
-deliver"
from the command line (see the online Worldmail manual), then loops back
to
sleep.
You may capture a few duplicates, and you'll accidentally intercept an
occasional locally-bound message, but you ought to do better with this
than
with my first suggestion.
Garry
From: "Sebastian" <sebas at webmaster.com dot sg>
Subject: Re: Outgoing Mail Tracking
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 15:04:50 +0800
This method seems unable to capture all outgoing mails. But its the best
solution so far. I have to try this out.
Thanks
----- Original Message -----
From: <squeezix at ithaca dot com>
To: "Subscribers of WorldMail" <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: Outgoing Mail Tracking
Paul Webster wrote:
>I think that will catch inbound mail going to users - not outbound mail.
Oops. Sorry about the brain misfire.
How about this:
Internet Mail / <right click> / Configure Server / Default
Outgoing Mail Settings / Queue all outgoing
mail until delivery is requested <enable>
According to the online help,
Queue all outgoing mail until delivery is requested:
When enabled, local mail is still delivered immediately, but any
outgoing mail to other SMTP servers remains in the message queue.
Delivery is only attempted when a remote server requests the mail
for its domain via the delivery request notification protocol, or
you choose to Resend messages in the queue.
Then create a shell script which every minute or two copies out the
accumulated messages from the queue, if any, then does an "smtpd -deliver"
from the command line (see the online Worldmail manual), then loops back to
sleep.
You may capture a few duplicates, and you'll accidentally intercept an
occasional locally-bound message, but you ought to do better with this than
with my first suggestion.
Garry
From: "Sebastian" <sebas at webmaster.com dot sg>
Subject: Installation
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 01:04:06 +0800
Hi there,
I tried to install Worldmail 2.0 on a dedicated server Win NT4.
I got a window pop up during installation. It says "Setup has detected an
invalid host or invalid domain name for this computer. Please reconfigure
your computer with a valid host and domain name and return to setup".
Can anyone advice where to configure host or domain name?
Greatly appreciated.
regards,
Sebastian Quek
Webmaster Internet Services
Address:
470 North Bridge Road
#03-03 Singapore Finance House
Singapore 188735
Tel: 65-254 4601 Fax: 65-358 4386
Email: info at webmaster.com dot sg
URL: http://www.webmaster.com.sg/
From: "Matt Hemingway" <matt at supplyedge dot com>
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 09:14:23 -0800
Subject: Re: Installation
Right click on Network Neighborhood and goto Properties.
Everything's in their.
-Matt
On 29 Dec 2001 at 1:04, Sebastian wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I tried to install Worldmail 2.0 on a dedicated server Win NT4.
>
> I got a window pop up during installation. It says "Setup has detected
> an invalid host or invalid domain name for this computer. Please
> reconfigure your computer with a valid host and domain name and return
> to setup".
>
> Can anyone advice where to configure host or domain name?
> Greatly appreciated.
>
> regards,
>
> Sebastian Quek
> Webmaster Internet Services
>
> Address:
> 470 North Bridge Road
> #03-03 Singapore Finance House
> Singapore 188735
>
> Tel: 65-254 4601 Fax: 65-358 4386
> Email: info at webmaster.com dot sg
> URL: http://www.webmaster.com.sg/
>
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 09:22:49 -0800
From: William Hultman <whultman at home dot com>
Subject: Re: Installation
At 1:04 AM +0800 12/29/01, Sebastian wrote:
>Hi there,
>
>I tried to install Worldmail 2.0 on a dedicated server Win NT4.
>
>I got a window pop up during installation. It says "Setup has detected an
>invalid host or invalid domain name for this computer. Please reconfigure
>your computer with a valid host and domain name and return to setup".
>
>Can anyone advice where to configure host or domain name?
>Greatly appreciated.
>
>regards,
>
>Sebastian Quek
>Webmaster Internet Services
>
>Address:
>470 North Bridge Road
>#03-03 Singapore Finance House
>Singapore 188735
>
>Tel: 65-254 4601 Fax: 65-358 4386
>Email: info at webmaster.com dot sg
>URL: http://www.webmaster.com.sg/
Look in the Network control panel>Protocols>TCP/IP>Properties>DNS.
The host and domain name fields need to be properly filled out or
WorldMail will not install.
Also note that this is where WorldMail derives its name from, so
ensure that it is correct -- i.e. if your mail server will be known
on the Internet as mail.domain.com, then the host field should be
mail and the domain name field should be domain.com.
Once this is filled out, and WorldMail is installed, DO NOT CHANGE
IT! If you do, the next time you reboot, your users will not be able
to retrieve their email. More info is available at
<http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/1588hq.html> .
--
William Hultman
<whultman at home dot com>
From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Installation
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 20:57:20 -0000
With the frequent error being an underscore somewhere ... NT allows it but
RFC doesn't.
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: William Hultman [mailto:whultman at home dot com]
Sent: 28 December 2001 17:23
To: Sebastian; Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Re: Installation
At 1:04 AM +0800 12/29/01, Sebastian wrote:
>Hi there,
>
>I tried to install Worldmail 2.0 on a dedicated server Win NT4.
>
>I got a window pop up during installation. It says "Setup has detected an
>invalid host or invalid domain name for this computer. Please reconfigure
>your computer with a valid host and domain name and return to setup".
>
>Can anyone advice where to configure host or domain name?
>Greatly appreciated.
>
>regards,
>
>Sebastian Quek
>Webmaster Internet Services
>
>Address:
>470 North Bridge Road
>#03-03 Singapore Finance House
>Singapore 188735
>
>Tel: 65-254 4601 Fax: 65-358 4386
>Email: info at webmaster.com dot sg
>URL: http://www.webmaster.com.sg/
Look in the Network control panel>Protocols>TCP/IP>Properties>DNS.
The host and domain name fields need to be properly filled out or
WorldMail will not install.
Also note that this is where WorldMail derives its name from, so
ensure that it is correct -- i.e. if your mail server will be known
on the Internet as mail.domain.com, then the host field should be
mail and the domain name field should be domain.com.
Once this is filled out, and WorldMail is installed, DO NOT CHANGE
IT! If you do, the next time you reboot, your users will not be able
to retrieve their email. More info is available at
<http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/1588hq.html> .
--
William Hultman
<whultman at home dot com>
Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 17:35:17 -0800
From: Keith Lockliear <ws6ta at lvcm dot com>
Subject: How to block this guy...
Okay, I've got my relaying set to only allow the IP blocks that I know my
clients use.
Looking through my SMTP logs, I see:
SMTP connect from host [shows my IP address]
SMTP HELO [myservername] from host [my IP]
Then it lists a ton of queued recipients. I don't understand how someone
is relaying off this thing. I don't see where his IP is listed so I can
cut him off...
Any suggestions/tips? PLEASE! Before my ISP drops me for allowing spam
relaying.
Keith
Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 18:17:14 -0800
From: Keith Lockliear <ws6ta at lvcm dot com>
Subject: Re: How to block this guy...
At 05:35 PM 1/1/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>Okay, I've got my relaying set to only allow the IP blocks that I know my
>clients use.
>
>Looking through my SMTP logs, I see:
>
>SMTP connect from host [shows my IP address]
>SMTP HELO [myservername] from host [my IP]
>
>Then it lists a ton of queued recipients. I don't understand how someone
>is relaying off this thing. I don't see where his IP is listed so I can
>cut him off...
>
>Any suggestions/tips? PLEASE! Before my ISP drops me for allowing spam
>relaying.
I've also found two IP's that the connection is using by looking at the
current connections and watching for new ones to come up. The same IP
keeps coming up, and the type is listed as "cache". I've got this IP
denied in all the security areas (manager, SMTP, relaying & message store),
but it keeps connecting.
Any ideas?
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 04:33:28 -0700
From: Alan Leiman <surfeagle at mho dot net>
Subject: form submits
I'm having a problem or don't understand submitting from forms. Or both.
Hello every1 I haven't msg the group before, hope you can tolerate someone
who's kinda new to both mail servers and scripting, but, I do have several
domain up and World Mail server working for them. small feat I know
I just tried to change my list server commands from the web page at
pensive.org and selected a choice at "update your list settings". My mail
program opens "Eudora 5.1" and has a attached file with a ATT extension.
The autoshare can't figure that out. np I just mail with commands in body.
But, I'm working on setting some forms and am having the same thing happen
if I use mailto: as the form action?
Also, I have a cgi script but don't know where to point it to have it send
mail. e.i. the sendmail_location I that what's called relay in World mail?
- Alan -
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 23:19:16 +1100
From: Andrew Happ <andyh at triode.net dot au>
Subject: Cannot Activate Worldmail with Supplied License Key
I purchased from buyonet.com what was supposed to be the 10 user base
package for Worldmail 2.0. What I believe I received was a 10 user ADD-ON
package, but try as I might, I cannot convince buyonet.com that this is the
case. If you could please review my findings and provide your assessment
of the situation I would be extremely grateful.
FINDING NO 1
The program installation progresses without complaining, including
seemingly accepting the Serial No and Activation Key that were provided by
buyonet.com.
When I run the program for the first time my “Internet Mail” icon is
displayed as inactive (struck out with a red line).
Examining the Worldmail “License Status” window reveals that no entries
are
recorded in that window. The serial number dialogue box displays the text
“no details”.
Attempting to enter (ie re-enter) the supplied Serial Number and Activation
Key results in the message “Error attempting to set license”. It would
seem that I have in fact typed in a valid set of numbers at this stage
because if I retry & change any character in the supplied strings, I get
the different message response “Invalid License Number”.
FINDING NO 2
When I install Worldmail in its EVALUATION mode everything seems to
work. The “License Status” window reports “EVALUATION UNLIMITED users
BASE, options … etc.
I then try to enter my supplied Serial Number and Activation key at the
“License Status” window. This data entry is accepted and creates a
second
line in the “License Status” window which reads “<<my activation key>>
10
user ADD-ON, option C”.
The program continues to operate for a brief time and then fails. (I
suspect this is because the EVALUATION process is really out of its use-by
date).
I have tried this on 6 different computers on two different networks using
NT4 and W2k and have had identical results every time.
To me it seems patently obvious I have received an ADD-ON pack rather than
the Base Package. Buyonet.com say that when they install using the same
Serial No and Activation key that “… everything seems ok”. But just
how
far they went before coming to that conclusion is not clear.
I would be so grateful for any feedback from experienced users that
corroborates my conclusions that I could then pass on to buyonet.com in the
hope that I can finally convince them of my problem. As you can imagine
this has been a disastrous introduction to Worldmail for me.
All attempts to reach Qualcomm and Eudora have drawn blanks.
Best regards,
Andrew Happ
From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Cannot Activate Worldmail with Supplied License Key
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 15:17:18 -0000
Hello Andrew,
I think your assessment is right - it does look like you have a 10-user
add-on upgrade key.
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Happ [mailto:andyh at triode.net dot au]
Sent: 02 January 2002 12:19
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Cannot Activate Worldmail with Supplied License Key
I purchased from buyonet.com what was supposed to be the 10 user base
package for Worldmail 2.0. What I believe I received was a 10 user ADD-ON
package, but try as I might, I cannot convince buyonet.com that this is the
case. If you could please review my findings and provide your assessment
of the situation I would be extremely grateful.
FINDING NO 1
The program installation progresses without complaining, including
seemingly accepting the Serial No and Activation Key that were provided by
buyonet.com.
When I run the program for the first time my “Internet Mail” icon is
displayed as inactive (struck out with a red line).
Examining the Worldmail “License Status” window reveals that no entries are
recorded in that window. The serial number dialogue box displays the text
“no details”.
Attempting to enter (ie re-enter) the supplied Serial Number and Activation
Key results in the message “Error attempting to set license”. It would
seem that I have in fact typed in a valid set of numbers at this stage
because if I retry & change any character in the supplied strings, I get
the different message response “Invalid License Number”.
FINDING NO 2
When I install Worldmail in its EVALUATION mode everything seems to
work. The “License Status” window reports “EVALUATION UNLIMITED users
BASE, options … etc.
I then try to enter my supplied Serial Number and Activation key at the
“License Status” window. This data entry is accepted and creates a second
line in the “License Status” window which reads “<<my activation key>> 10
user ADD-ON, option C”.
The program continues to operate for a brief time and then fails. (I
suspect this is because the EVALUATION process is really out of its use-by
date).
I have tried this on 6 different computers on two different networks using
NT4 and W2k and have had identical results every time.
To me it seems patently obvious I have received an ADD-ON pack rather than
the Base Package. Buyonet.com say that when they install using the same
Serial No and Activation key that “… everything seems ok”. But just how
far they went before coming to that conclusion is not clear.
I would be so grateful for any feedback from experienced users that
corroborates my conclusions that I could then pass on to buyonet.com in the
hope that I can finally convince them of my problem. As you can imagine
this has been a disastrous introduction to Worldmail for me.
All attempts to reach Qualcomm and Eudora have drawn blanks.
Best regards,
Andrew Happ
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 13:44:43 +1100
From: Andrew Happ <andyh at triode.net dot au>
Subject: Cannot Activate Worldmail with Supplied License Key - UPDATE
I have just received an email from Qualcomm indicating that they have
tested the Serial Number and Activation Key that were supplied by Buyonet
and they confirm that the incorrect licensing data were supplied. It is
clear that Buyonet is incapable of knowing what they have done or what they
need now to do. I am now in a desperate situation, needing to have my
server up and running by next Monday. In this context could I make the
excptional request that if someone has an unused Serial Number and
Activation Key that they would be prepared to donate, I would be so
grateful.
PREVIOUS POSTING FOLLOWS:
I purchased from buyonet.com what was supposed to be the 10 user base
package for Worldmail 2.0. What I believe I received was a 10 user ADD-ON
package, but try as I might, I cannot convince buyonet.com that this is the
case. If you could please review my findings and provide your assessment
of the situation I would be extremely grateful.
FINDING NO 1
The program installation progresses without complaining, including
seemingly accepting the Serial No and Activation Key that were provided by
buyonet.com.
When I run the program for the first time my “Internet Mail” icon is
displayed as inactive (struck out with a red line).
Examining the Worldmail “License Status” window reveals that no entries
are
recorded in that window. The serial number dialogue box displays the text
“no details”.
Attempting to enter (ie re-enter) the supplied Serial Number and Activation
Key results in the message “Error attempting to set license”. It would
seem that I have in fact typed in a valid set of numbers at this stage
because if I retry & change any character in the supplied strings, I get
the different message response “Invalid License Number”.
FINDING NO 2
When I install Worldmail in its EVALUATION mode everything seems to
work. The “License Status” window reports “EVALUATION UNLIMITED users
BASE, options … etc.
I then try to enter my supplied Serial Number and Activation key at the
“License Status” window. This data entry is accepted and creates a
second
line in the “License Status” window which reads “<<my activation key>>
10
user ADD-ON, option C”.
The program continues to operate for a brief time and then fails. (I
suspect this is because the EVALUATION process is really out of its use-by
date).
I have tried this on 6 different computers on two different networks using
NT4 and W2k and have had identical results every time.
To me it seems patently obvious I have received an ADD-ON pack rather than
the Base Package. Buyonet.com say that when they install using the same
Serial No and Activation key that “… everything seems ok”. But just
how
far they went before coming to that conclusion is not clear.
I would be so grateful for any feedback from experienced users that
corroborates my conclusions that I could then pass on to buyonet.com in the
hope that I can finally convince them of my problem. As you can imagine
this has been a disastrous introduction to Worldmail for me.
All attempts to reach Qualcomm and Eudora have drawn blanks.
Best regards,
Andrew Happ
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 22:43:09 +1100
From: Andrew Happ <andyh at triode.net dot au>
Subject: Cannot Activate Worldmail with Supplied License Key - UPDATE 2
Thanks to all the people who responded to this message. It's so refreshing
to know that there are people out there who can sympathise with my
plight. Up til now it seemed I had the choice of stony silence or a brick
wall against which I could recontour my head. I do have a temporary
solution and I'll post the final outcome when that eventuates.
Thanks again and Best regards,
Andrew Happ
From: "Jill Crawford" <jillc at golfpactravel dot com>
Subject: RE: Cannot Activate Worldmail with Supplied License Key
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 15:56:15 -0500
Does your license key end in 1C, or 10C? The BASE license key ends in 1C
and the add-on would end in 10C.
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Happ [mailto:andyh at triode.net dot au]
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 7:19 AM
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Cannot Activate Worldmail with Supplied License Key
I purchased from buyonet.com what was supposed to be the 10 user base
package for Worldmail 2.0. What I believe I received was a 10 user ADD-ON
package, but try as I might, I cannot convince buyonet.com that this is the
case. If you could please review my findings and provide your assessment
of the situation I would be extremely grateful.
Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 09:11:24 -0600
From: "Mark Hardee (Seamless Graphics)" <mark at seamlessgraphics dot com>
Subject: SMTP LOGS
I am running Worldmail 2 on an NT2000 server and am wanting to learn and
track some things.
First... is there anyway to:
Have WM email the smtp logs automatically?
Format them tab-delimited so I can pour into database?
Find out about the 299 blocked smtp request that show in my log? I am
assuming these are IP's that I have denied?
Would just like to be able to monitor it closely as I get it as secure as I
can get it..
Mark Hardee
Seamless Graphics, Inc.
1505 Union Avenue - Memphis, TN 38104
(901)726-4113 FAX (901)726-4114
http://www.seamlessgraphics.com
ftp://ftp.seamlessgraphics.com
mark at seamlessgraphics dot com
mike at seamlessgraphics dot com
barbara at seamlessgraphics dot com
carl at seamlessgraphics dot com
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Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 23:11:54 +1100
From: Andrew Happ <andyh at triode.net dot au>
Subject: Domain Name Issues & Win2K
I am attempting to get Worldmail 2.0 running on a Win2K system. The system
comprises a single Win2K file server and a mix of Win98 and Win2K
clients. Worldmail is being installed on one of the Win2K clients. I am
aware of the Win2K issues raised in Doc ID:2041HQ.
My problem is how to interpret "Domain" requirements. I have a registered
internet Domain name called "mycompany.com.au". I also have a Win2K DOMAIN
called "Worknet.local" and all clients are members of that domain. Do
these two Domain names need to be made identical? I hesitate at this point
because I realise that changing the DOMAIN name from "Worknet.local" to
"mycompany.com.au" is not a trivial matter.
Other factors include:
Cable Modem connection
De facto fixed IP on Host
DNS & DHCP running on Win2K file server
Any wise words would be most welcomed
From: "Art Lazanoff" <art at parrotbyte dot com>
Subject: RE: Domain Name Issues & Win2K
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 10:45:01 -0800
Hi Andrew,
I don't think there's any connection between an internet domain name and
a win2k server domain. In fact, worldmail mail boxes are stored in
worldmail's own directory and e-mail addresses are independent of win2k
login accounts. (I've got several mailboxes with no corresponding win2k
account).
Besides the reference to the DNS registry fixup, you should also check
'prefer use of external DNS servers" in the Internet Mail properties
(domains) within worldmail even though you are running your own DNS.
I've run into several instances where my own DNS missed finding an IP
address, and I'm not sure whether this turned out to be a name cache
problem or not.
Your note says you are "attempting" -- does that mean you ran into some
specific problems?
Art
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Happ [mailto:andyh at triode.net dot au]
> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 4:12 AM
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: Domain Name Issues & Win2K
>
>
> I am attempting to get Worldmail 2.0 running on a Win2K
> system. The system
> comprises a single Win2K file server and a mix of Win98 and Win2K
> clients. Worldmail is being installed on one of the Win2K
> clients. I am
> aware of the Win2K issues raised in Doc ID:2041HQ.
>
> My problem is how to interpret "Domain" requirements. I have
> a registered
> internet Domain name called "mycompany.com.au". I also have
> a Win2K DOMAIN
> called "Worknet.local" and all clients are members of that
> domain. Do
> these two Domain names need to be made identical? I hesitate
> at this point
> because I realise that changing the DOMAIN name from
> "Worknet.local" to
> "mycompany.com.au" is not a trivial matter.
>
> Other factors include:
> Cable Modem connection
> De facto fixed IP on Host
> DNS & DHCP running on Win2K file server
>
> Any wise words would be most welcomed
>
>
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:28:35 -0800
From: Randall Gellens <rg_public.1 at flagg.qualcomm dot com>
Subject: RE: Security hole
At 8:44 AM -0800 12/6/01, Chris Lander wrote:
>Is there away to disable Eudora's LDAP service? AFAIK, we're not using it,
>and there's no real reason to have it running.
You can set the service's startup to 'disabled' from the Windows control panel.
Anyone using WorldMail should, just to be safe, use the access
restrictions (under Security) to block access to the LDAP server from
outside the local network.
--
Randall Gellens
rg_public.1 at flagg.qualcomm dot com
Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only
From: "Ben Saren" <ben at atomicusa dot com>
Subject: RE: Security hole
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:37:17 -0500
Would you all consider this a REAL threat? I mean, when I think of
"security hole" Outlook and IE come to mind. But nevertheless, I still
take those words seriously. Just wanted to put out the feelers...
-----Original Message-----
From: Randall Gellens [mailto:rg_public.1 at flagg.qualcomm dot com]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 7:29 PM
To: Chris Lander; Ben Saren; Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: RE: Security hole
At 8:44 AM -0800 12/6/01, Chris Lander wrote:
>Is there away to disable Eudora's LDAP service? AFAIK, we're not using
>it, and there's no real reason to have it running.
You can set the service's startup to 'disabled' from the Windows control
panel.
Anyone using WorldMail should, just to be safe, use the access
restrictions (under Security) to block access to the LDAP server from
outside the local network.
--
Randall Gellens
rg_public.1 at flagg.qualcomm dot com
Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself
only
Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 22:39:36 -0800
From: Keith Lockliear <ws6ta at LVCM dot COM>
Subject: Re: How to block this guy...
At 09:06 AM 1/7/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>in the smtp logs...
>where it lists the queued recip's..
>does it tell 'who' it's from ?
>not the HELO who, but who the email is from to the queued recip's?
Yes, it shows them being from a bellsouth.net address, but the originators
name changes with each queueing. I don't want to block bellsouth.net
either as my Dad uses them.
I've tried watching the SMTP connections and when I see it log it I add
that IP to my deny list, but they just keep coming in anyway.
Any ideas?
Keith
From: "Art Lazanoff" <art at parrotbyte dot com>
Subject: RE: How to block this guy...
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 22:54:01 -0800
OK- isn't bellsouth.net an ISP?-- they are probably using DHCP to give
each login a dynamic IP address. I'd sent a complaint to
abuse at bellsouth dot net with the complete e-mail header and complain about
their SPAM. Some ISPs will take action against this kind of behavior.
Some of these guys spoof much of what's in a header so you should do
tracetroutes (tracert in win2k) on IP addresses to get a better clue
what domain the address might be in.
Good luck,
Art
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Lockliear [mailto:ws6ta at LVCM dot COM]
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:40 PM
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: Re: How to block this guy...
>
>
> At 09:06 AM 1/7/2002 -0800, you wrote:
> >in the smtp logs...
> >where it lists the queued recip's..
> >does it tell 'who' it's from ?
> >not the HELO who, but who the email is from to the queued recip's?
>
> Yes, it shows them being from a bellsouth.net address, but
> the originators name changes with each queueing. I don't
> want to block bellsouth.net either as my Dad uses them.
>
> I've tried watching the SMTP connections and when I see it
> log it I add that IP to my deny list, but they just keep
> coming in anyway.
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
> Keith
>
From: bennya at totallyhip dot com (Benny Au-Young)
<a04330102b867ccadb166 at [192.168.1 dot 7]>
Subject: Re: Get me off this list
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:26:16 -0800
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Your sarcasm is quite dry. I have seen the headers and I had followed the
instructions. I am familiar with the use of List Servers. Unfortunate, I
still get mail from your list even after following those useful tips. I
also know that you have the capability of going into your list and
physically removing an individual from that list. I have managed a list and
when someone does run into a problem I do trying to get off the list we
either guide them through or remove them off the list.
You may not be trying to be sarcastic but monday mornings are not the best
time for me to read this type of reply to my question.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Listmaster" <listmaster at lists.pensive dot org>
To: "Benny Au-Young" <bennya at totallyhip dot com>
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: Get me off this list
> At 10:45 AM -0800 1/10/02, Benny Au-Young wrote:
>
> > Okay. Can you email me the proper email address and email commands so
that i
> > can send it to the correct location?
>
> Every message sent by of our lists has a "List-Unsubscribe" header
> that's customized for that list. Just click it.
>
> If you're using a mail program that makes it hard to see the headers,
> even useful ones such as "List-Unsubscribe", I suggest getting a
> better one, as it will make your life much easier. But if you are
> unfortunate enough to be using such a program, take the name of the
> list (such as "qpopper"), add "-request" to the end (to make, for
> example, "qpopper-request"), and then add "@lists.pensive.org". Send
> a message to this address, and put the word "unsubscribe" (without
> the quotes) as the body of the message. Not the subject, but the
> body. That's all there is to it.
>
> >
> > I sent email the the location I found on your list. I assumed it was
> > correct. Maybe I grabbed the wrong one.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Listmaster" <listmaster at lists.pensive dot org>
> > To: "Benny Au-Young" <bennya at totallyhip dot com>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 10:33 AM
> > Subject: Re: Get me off this list
> >
> >
> >> At 9:52 AM -0800 1/7/02, Benny Au-Young wrote:
> >>
> >> > I get no error. I just keep receiving mail from the list.
> >>
> >> If you send an email to the list server, you get a response
> >> indicating the success or failure of your request. If you don't get
> >> a response, perhaps you are sending to the wrong address. Each email
> >> sent by any of our lists has a "List-Unsubscribe" header with a link.
> >> Simply click the link, and an email is sent requesting that you be
> >> removed from that list. Have you tried this?
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Listmaster" <listmaster at lists.pensive dot org>
> >> > To: "Benny Au-Young" <bennya at totallyhip dot com>
> >> > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 12:28 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: Get me off this list
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> At 9:39 AM -0800 1/2/02, Benny Au-Young wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > I have tried repeatedly to unsubscribe from this list and it
just
> > won't
> >> > let
> >> >> > me. Can you please remove my email address from the list.
> >> >>
> >> >> What happens when you try to remove yourself? Do you get an
error?
> >> >> If so, what does it say? Do you think there is a problem at this
> >> >> end, or do you think you're doing something wrong?
> >> >>
> >> >> If you want me to help, you'll need to tell me which list you're
> > talking
> >> > about.
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 07:40:30 -0600
From: "Mark Hardee (Seamless Graphics)" <mark at seamlessgraphics dot com>
Subject: SMTP STATS
Is there anywhere (log) that lists the rejected SMTP connections IP's in
the statistics window? It would be helpful to know if the security settings
are working or if they are blocking valid email..
Mark Hardee
Seamless Graphics, Inc.
1505 Union Avenue - Memphis, TN 38104
(901)726-4113 FAX (901)726-4114
http://www.seamlessgraphics.com
ftp://ftp.seamlessgraphics.com
mark at seamlessgraphics dot com
mike at seamlessgraphics dot com
barbara at seamlessgraphics dot com
carl at seamlessgraphics dot com
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Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 16:20:46 +1100
From: Andrew <andyh at triode.net dot au>
Subject: ETRN Support & Alternative Method
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Approximately 3 months ago my current ISP assured me that their system
supported the ETRM protocol. On that basis I purchased Worldmail and am
part way through deploying it. I am now told by my ISP that they do not
support ETRM.
I have contacted an alternate ISP who also does not support ETRM, and he
believed that ETRN support by ISPs is rare. (that would be in the
Australian context I suppose).
This ISP person then advised that he could provide a "small stand alone
utility" that could be run from my Worldmail server (as a scheduled event)
that would achieve the same effect as an ETRN request. I cannot visualize
how this might work. Is this an option worth perusing?
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<font size=3>Approximately 3 months ago my current ISP assured me that
their system supported the ETRM protocol. On that basis I purchased
Worldmail and am part way through deploying it. I am now told by my
ISP that they do not support ETRM.<br>
<br>
I have contacted an alternate ISP who also does not support ETRM, and he
believed that ETRN support by ISPs is rare. (that would be in the
Australian context I suppose).<br>
<br>
This ISP person then advised that he could provide a ìsmall stand alone
utilityî that could be run from my Worldmail server (as a scheduled
event) that would achieve the same effect as an ETRN request. I
cannot visualize how this might work. Is this an option worth
perusing?<br>
</font><br>
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From: "Vesa Virtanen" <vesa.virtanen at faf.mil dot fi>
Subject: fake mail sender
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 08:15:33 +0200
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Is it possible to require logon to WorldMail also when sending mail
?(There is that kind of settings in mail clients but it is up to user)
Now you can put almost anything to your email account's E-mail
address-field (for example anonymous at fake dot com) and WorldMail sends it
without any problems.
There is many registry settings (AllowUnqualifiedGarbage,
VerifyAddresses and so on) but I did not find just that.
Of course firewalls and e-mail relays take care that this can only be
done inside our local network but still it worries me a bit
Vesa Virtanen
Systems Analyst
FAF
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is it possible to require logon to
WorldMail also
when sending mail ?(There is that kind of settings in mail clients but
it is up
to user) Now you can put almost anything to your email account's E-mail
address-field (for example <A
href="mailto:anonymous at fake dot com">anonymous@fake dot com</A>) and WorldMail
sends it
without any problems.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There is many registry settings
(AllowUnqualifiedGarbage, VerifyAddresses and so on) but I did not find
just
that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Of course firewalls and e-mail relays
take care
that this can only be done inside our local network but still it worries
me a
bit</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Vesa Virtanen</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Systems Analyst</FONT></DIV>
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From: "Sebastian" <sebas at webmaster.com dot sg>
Subject: Worldmail web-based?
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 15:55:54 +0800
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Need Help on the following questions.
1. Can Worldmail 2.0 support web-based email?
2. Can i install another mail server together with worldmail 2.0 on the
same NT4 machine?
Urgent thank you!
regards,
Sebastian Quek
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Need Help on the following
questions.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1. Can Worldmail 2.0 support web-based
email?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2. Can i install another mail server
together with
worldmail 2.0 on the same NT4 machine?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Urgent thank you!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sebastian
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From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: ETRN Support & Alternative Method
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 08:03:40 -0000
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Quick backtrack .... ETRN is the facility that allows a mail server to
request that a remote mail server releases mail that is queued up for it.
In your case the remote mail server is your ISP.
If your mail server has a defined IP address (not a dial-up dynamically
assigned one) then this should work (in cases where the ISP supports ETRN
).
If you have a dynamically assigned IP address then this probably would no
t
work [although an ISP could work it out].
It is right that not many ISPs support ETRN. However, some do support a m
ail
queue being released by using FINGER.
[PSI in UK was one that worked this way].
In the case of FINGER (and ETRN) it is possible to run a stand-alone util
ity
program from a scripted batch file to make this work - and then schedule
it
using NT/WIN2K AT command [or pretty well any other scheduling method tha
t
you want].
If you are on a dial-up link and you want to make it all fit together the
n I
suggest that you script everything - including the release of the outboun
d
mail delivery from your Worldmail server.
As always - get the ISP to describe what it will do and test it before
committing.
[I'm sure that someone will help from here if you get issues]
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew [mailto:andyh at triode.net dot au]
Sent: 16 January 2002 05:21
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: ETRN Support & Alternative Method
Approximately 3 months ago my current ISP assured me that their system
supported the ETRM protocol. On that basis I purchased Worldmail and am
part way through deploying it. I am now told by my ISP that they do not
support ETRM.
I have contacted an alternate ISP who also does not support ETRM, and he
believed that ETRN support by ISPs is rare. (that would be in the Austral
ian
context I suppose).
This ISP person then advised that he could provide a “small stand alone
utility” that could be run from my Worldmail server (as a scheduled eve
nt)
that would achieve the same effect as an ETRN request. I cannot visualiz
e
how this might work. Is this an option worth perusing?
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class™1043407-16012002>Quick
backtrack .... ETRN is the facility that allows a mail server to request
that a
remote mail server releases mail that is queued up for
it.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class™1043407-16012002>In
your case the remote mail server is your ISP.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class™1043407-16012002>If
your mail server has a defined IP address (not a dial-up dynamically
assigned
one) then this should work (in cases where the ISP supports ETRN).
If you
have a dynamically assigned IP address then this probably would not work
[although an ISP could work it out].</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class™1043407-16012002>It is
right that not many ISPs support ETRN. However, some do support a mail
queue
being released by using FINGER.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class™1043407-16012002>[PSI
in UK was one that worked this way].</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class™1043407-16012002>In the
case of FINGER (and ETRN) it is possible to run a stand-alone utility
program
from a scripted batch file to make this work - and then schedule it
using
NT/WIN2K AT command [or pretty well any other scheduling method that you
want].</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class™1043407-16012002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class™1043407-16012002>If you
are on a dial-up link and you want to make it all fit together then I
suggest
that you script everything - including the release of the outbound mail
delivery
from your Worldmail server.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class™1043407-16012002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class™1043407-16012002>As
always - get the ISP to describe what it will do and test it before
committing.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class™1043407-16012002>[I'm
sure that someone will help from here if you get
issues]</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class™1043407-16012002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class™1043407-16012002>Paul</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Andrew
[mailto:andyh at triode.net dot au]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 16 January 2002
05:21<BR><B>To:</B>
Subscribers of WorldMail<BR><B>Subject:</B> ETRN Support &
Alternative
Method<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT size=3>Approximately 3 months ago my
current
ISP assured me that their system supported the ETRM protocol. On
that
basis I purchased Worldmail and am part way through deploying it.
I am now
told by my ISP that they do not support ETRM.<BR><BR>I have contacted an
alternate ISP who also does not support ETRM, and he believed that ETRN
support
by ISPs is rare. (that would be in the Australian context I
suppose).<BR><BR>This ISP person then advised that he could provide a
“small
stand alone utility” that could be run from my Worldmail server (as a
scheduled
event) that would achieve the same effect as an ETRN request. I
cannot
visualize how this might work. Is this an option worth
perusing?<BR></FONT><BR></BODY></HTML>
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From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: fake mail sender
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 07:42:04 -0000
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As far as I remember that code did not make its way into the underlying
"ISOCOR" (now Critical Path) mail server until after last release of
Worldmail [which was a few years back].
The SMTP-AUTH facility was standardized quite late on.
You can check sender's IP address.
In theory you could write a plug-in for Worldmail to undertake your own
processing of the mail message - but without ready access to some of the
libraries ... this is a bit difficult.
Maybe others on this list - particularly those at Qualcomm might be able to
help there.
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Vesa Virtanen [mailto:vesa.virtanen at faf.mil dot fi]
Sent: 16 January 2002 06:16
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: fake mail sender
Is it possible to require logon to WorldMail also when sending mail ?(There
is that kind of settings in mail clients but it is up to user) Now you can
put almost anything to your email account's E-mail address-field (for
example anonymous at fake dot com) and WorldMail sends it without any problems.
There is many registry settings (AllowUnqualifiedGarbage, VerifyAddresses
and so on) but I did not find just that.
Of course firewalls and e-mail relays take care that this can only be done
inside our local network but still it worries me a bit
Vesa Virtanen
Systems Analyst
FAF
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<DIV><SPAN class‡3403407-16012002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>As far
as I remember that code did not make its way into the underlying
"ISOCOR" (now
Critical Path) mail server until after last release of Worldmail [which
was a
few years back].</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class‡3403407-16012002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>The
SMTP-AUTH facility was standardized quite late on.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class‡3403407-16012002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class‡3403407-16012002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>You
can check sender's IP address.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class‡3403407-16012002></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class‡3403407-16012002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>In
theory you could write a plug-in for Worldmail to undertake your own
processing
of the mail message - but without ready access to some of the libraries
... this
is a bit difficult.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class‡3403407-16012002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Maybe
others on this list - particularly those at Qualcomm might be able to
help
there.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class‡3403407-16012002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class‡3403407-16012002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Paul</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class‡3403407-16012002></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Vesa Virtanen
[mailto:vesa.virtanen at faf.mil dot fi]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 16 January 2002
06:16<BR><B>To:</B> Subscribers of WorldMail<BR><B>Subject:</B> fake
mail
sender<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is it possible to require logon to
WorldMail also
when sending mail ?(There is that kind of settings in mail clients but
it is up
to user) Now you can put almost anything to your email account's E-mail
address-field (for example <A
href="mailto:anonymous at fake dot com">anonymous@fake dot com</A>) and WorldMail
sends it
without any problems.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There is many registry settings
(AllowUnqualifiedGarbage, VerifyAddresses and so on) but I did not find
just
that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Of course firewalls and e-mail relays
take care
that this can only be done inside our local network but still it worries
me a
bit</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Vesa Virtanen</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Systems Analyst</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>FAF</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Worldmail web-based?
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 08:42:30 -0000
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Worldmail does not have its own web-mail component ... but it does support
POP3 and IMAP4 ... and there are many webmail programs that uses IMAP4 (and
even POP3) to connect to the mailserver in the background.
A quick Google search reveals this useful looking list -
http://www.emailman.com/web/servers.html
You can (in theory) run more than one mail server on same machine - issues
that you will face will be contention for ports.
Worldmail allows you to configure the ports that it uses (I think that if
you give it a port then it takes it for all network interface cards that are
installed). Changing port numbers is documented in Worldmail ... usual
reason is to run a virus checker on same machine.
[ports to watch for primarily are 25 (SMPT), 110 (POP3) and 143 (IMAP4) -
plus 80 (HTTP) if you want to run webmail]
[Academic interest - the "father" of Worldmail - IMS from ISOCOR/Critical
Path - does have a webmail component ... one day maybe Worldmail could get
it ... - see example at http://www.cafe.co.uk]
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Sebastian [mailto:sebas at webmaster.com dot sg]
Sent: 16 January 2002 07:56
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Worldmail web-based?
Need Help on the following questions.
1. Can Worldmail 2.0 support web-based email?
2. Can i install another mail server together with worldmail 2.0 on the same
NT4 machine?
Urgent thank you!
regards,
Sebastian Quek
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<DIV><SPAN class=181232908-16012002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Worldmail does not have its own web-mail component ... but it
does
support POP3 and IMAP4 ... and there are many webmail programs that uses
IMAP4
(and even POP3) to connect to the mailserver in the
background.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=181232908-16012002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>A
quick Google search reveals this useful looking list - <A
href="http://www.emailman.com/web/servers.html">http://www.emailman.com
/web/servers.html</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=181232908-16012002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=181232908-16012002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>You
can (in theory) run more than one mail server on same machine - issues
that you
will face will be contention for ports.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=181232908-16012002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Worldmail allows you to configure the ports that it uses (I
think that if
you give it a port then it takes it for all network interface cards that
are
installed). Changing port numbers is documented in Worldmail ...
usual
reason is to run a virus checker on same machine.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=181232908-16012002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>[ports
to watch for primarily are 25 (SMPT), 110 (POP3) and 143 (IMAP4) - plus
80
(HTTP) if you want to run webmail]</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=181232908-16012002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=181232908-16012002>
<DIV><SPAN class=181232908-16012002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>[Academic interest - the "father" of Worldmail - IMS from
ISOCOR/Critical
Path - does have a webmail component ... one day maybe Worldmail
could get
it ... - see example at <A
href="http://www.cafe.co.uk">http://www.cafe.co.uk</A></FONT></SPAN><SP
AN
class=181232908-16012002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>]</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=181232908-16012002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Paul</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Sebastian
[mailto:sebas at webmaster.com dot sg]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 16 January 2002
07:56<BR><B>To:</B> Subscribers of WorldMail<BR><B>Subject:</B>
Worldmail
web-based?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Need Help on the following
questions.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1. Can Worldmail 2.0 support web-based
email?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2. Can i install another mail server
together with
worldmail 2.0 on the same NT4 machine?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Urgent thank you!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sebastian
Quek</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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From: "Ben Saren" <ben at atomicusa dot com>
Subject: RE: fake mail sender
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 08:15:48 -0500
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It's called SMTP auth. Im pretty sure worldmail has that feature, cant
recall without logging on to my server though. Others may be able to
confirm this.
-----Original Message-----
From: Vesa Virtanen [mailto:vesa.virtanen at faf.mil dot fi]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:16 AM
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: fake mail sender
Is it possible to require logon to WorldMail also when sending mail
?(There is that kind of settings in mail clients but it is up to user)
Now you can put almost anything to your email account's E-mail
address-field (for example anonymous at fake dot com) and WorldMail sends it
without any problems.
There is many registry settings (AllowUnqualifiedGarbage,
VerifyAddresses and so on) but I did not find just that.
Of course firewalls and e-mail relays take care that this can only be
done inside our local network but still it worries me a bit
Vesa Virtanen
Systems Analyst
FAF
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<DIV><SPAN class=125151513-16012002><FONT face=Tahoma
color=#0000ff size=2>It's
called SMTP auth. Im pretty sure worldmail has that feature, cant recall
without
logging on to my server though. Others may be able to confirm
this.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr
align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Vesa
Virtanen
[mailto:vesa.virtanen at faf.mil dot fi] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January
16, 2002
1:16 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Subscribers of WorldMail<BR><B>Subject:</B> fake
mail
sender<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is it possible to require logon to
WorldMail also
when sending mail ?(There is that kind of settings in mail clients but
it is
up to user) Now you can put almost anything to your email account's
E-mail
address-field (for example <A
href="mailto:anonymous at fake dot com">anonymous@fake dot com</A>) and
WorldMail sends
it without any problems.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There is many registry settings
(AllowUnqualifiedGarbage, VerifyAddresses and so on) but I did not
find just
that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Of course firewalls and e-mail relays
take care
that this can only be done inside our local network but still it
worries me a
bit</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Vesa Virtanen</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Systems Analyst</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial
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Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:10:35 -0600
From: Paul Kaler <paul at texmemsys dot com>
Subject: How can I forward an existing user's email?
There are a couple things that make this question unique from some of the
ones that have I have seen on the archive.
I need to forward and existing message store user's email to an "external"
email address. But I want to be able to do this temporarily just like a
.forward file. I can't delete the message store user to create an alias or
mailing list to get around the known bug of forwarding mail to an
"external" domain with relay restrictions in use.
Also I can't use the copy all mail option because I don't want all their
mail left on the worldmail server, which will create problems when they
turn off forwarding and start using the worldmail server again(they will
get two copies of everything). Is there any way this can be done with a
special registry setting or something? Ideally the copy functionality
would be great if it had an option to not keep a local copy instead of
defaulting to always keeping a local copy.
This seems like such simple functionality it is hard for me to believe that
Worldmail can't be configured to do this.
I hope someone out there knows how this can be done.
Thanks in advance,
-Paul
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 08:46:03 -0800
From: ws6ta at lvcm dot com
Subject: Re: How can I forward an existing user's email?
At 10:10 AM 1/16/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>There are a couple things that make this question unique from some of the
>ones that have I have seen on the archive.
>
>I need to forward and existing message store user's email to an "external"
>email address. But I want to be able to do this temporarily just like a
>.forward file. I can't delete the message store user to create an alias or
>mailing list to get around the known bug of forwarding mail to an
>"external" domain with relay restrictions in use.
>Also I can't use the copy all mail option because I don't want all their
>mail left on the worldmail server, which will create problems when they
>turn off forwarding and start using the worldmail server again(they will
>get two copies of everything). Is there any way this can be done with a
>special registry setting or something? Ideally the copy functionality
>would be great if it had an option to not keep a local copy instead of
>defaulting to always keeping a local copy.
My suggestion would be to rename the message store account and create a mailing list in the old message store's name. Then add the new message store and the box you want to forward to on the list.
Keith Lockliear
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:36:28 -0800
From: LHA MIS <mis at lhaarchitects dot com>
Subject: Invalid destination email address: no feedback
Hello Everybody!
We use Worldmail server 2.0.
When our email server receives an undeliverable email, it forwards it to a
mailbox "undeliverable", that I created a while back. The problem is that
the sender will NOT receive any feedback from our email server that the
email was not delivered because of an invalid email address
How can I set Worldmail 2.0 to send an auto reply to the sender in cases
like this? There is an autorply.txt file in the "undeliverable" mailbox,
but somehow it is not getting utilized.
Geza Levai
Geza Levai
LAN Administrator
Leidenfrost/Horowitz & Associates
818-246-6050 ext.62
Glendale, CA
From: Garry Wiegand <squeezix at ithaca dot com>
Subject: Re: fake mail sender
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 00:10:06 -0800
Ben Saren wrote:
>It's called SMTP auth. Im pretty sure worldmail has that feature, cant
>recall without logging on to my server though. Others may be able to
>confirm this.
Pretty sure it does not have it. The "EHLO" command appears to show what
SMTP
extensions are available. When I type "EHLO ithaca.com" at Worldmail, it
says:
220 ticotico.ithaca.com ESMTP Service (Worldmail 1.3.167) ready
250-ticotico.ithaca.com
250-DSN
250-EXPN
250-8BITMIME
250-PIPELINING
250-HELP
250-ETRN
250 SIZE
There is no "AUTH" in the list. And when I type, for example, "AUTH
CRAM-MD5", Worldmail responds:
500 AUTH command unrecognized
See RFC 2554 to double-check me - http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2554.html.
Garry
From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: fake mail sender
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 10:31:24 -0000
You can enable/disable feature appearing in the EHLO response from the
Management Center - somewhere like Internet Mail/Configure/Incoming - but as
I said in my original response, I am fairly sure that the Worldmail cut of
the ISOCOR/N-PLEX (now Critical Path/IMS) did not have that feature.
A "modern" ISOCOR/CP one would say ....
220 xxx.xxx ESMTP Service (6.5.007) ready
250-xxx.xxx
250-DSN
250-EXPN
250-8BITMIME
250-PIPELINING
250-HELP
250-ETRN
250-AUTH=LOGIN
250-AUTH LOGIN CRAM-MD5 PLAIN
250 SIZE 10240000
[I think AUTH was put in around 4.n, and I think Worldmail is around 2.n or
maybe 3.0 - Properties/Version on SMTPD.EXE should say]
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Garry Wiegand [mailto:squeezix at ithaca dot com]
Sent: 18 January 2002 08:10
To: Ben Saren
Cc: 'Vesa Virtanen'; 'Subscribers of WorldMail'
Subject: Re: fake mail sender
Ben Saren wrote:
>It's called SMTP auth. Im pretty sure worldmail has that feature, cant
>recall without logging on to my server though. Others may be able to
>confirm this.
Pretty sure it does not have it. The "EHLO" command appears to show what
SMTP
extensions are available. When I type "EHLO ithaca.com" at Worldmail, it
says:
220 ticotico.ithaca.com ESMTP Service (Worldmail 1.3.167) ready
250-ticotico.ithaca.com
250-DSN
250-EXPN
250-8BITMIME
250-PIPELINING
250-HELP
250-ETRN
250 SIZE
There is no "AUTH" in the list. And when I type, for example, "AUTH
CRAM-MD5", Worldmail responds:
500 AUTH command unrecognized
See RFC 2554 to double-check me - http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2554.html.
Garry
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