The worldmail list archive ending on 19 Aug 2002


Topics covered in this issue include:

  1. Re: Fwd: Re: klez & eudora
       "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
       Fri, 10 May 2002 08:25:55 -0500 (CDT)
  2. Maximum number of messages
       Ryan Casey <rcasey at crp dot org>
       Fri, 10 May 2002 14:27:49 -0400
  3. Re: Maximum number of messages
       Geof Tillotson <geof at ackme dot com>
       Fri, 10 May 2002 15:28:59 -0400
  4. Need Help!  Anyone There?
       "Jay Ligda" <jligda at lrb-creations dot com>
       Sat, 11 May 2002 11:17:47 -0700
  5. RE: Need Help!  Anyone There?
       "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
       Sat, 11 May 2002 19:27:02 +0100
  6. RE: Need Help!  Anyone There?
       "Art Lazanoff" <art at parrotbyte dot com>
       Sat, 11 May 2002 22:53:56 -0700
  7. Relaying
       Ann Compton <acompton at nationaloptronics dot com>
       Mon, 13 May 2002 09:17:54 -0400
  8. Re: Relaying
       Matt Hemingway <matt at supplyedge dot com>
       Mon, 13 May 2002 08:13:07 -0700
  9. RE: Relaying
       "Art Lazanoff" <art at parrotbyte dot com>
       Mon, 13 May 2002 08:25:25 -0700
 10. Qualified Login
       "Ben Fogt" <bfogt at ichecktech dot com>
       Mon, 13 May 2002 14:53:34 -0400
 11. RE: Qualified Login
       "Tom Kemp" <KempT at presearch dot com>
       Mon, 13 May 2002 15:05:32 -0400
 12. RE: Qualified Login
       "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
       Mon, 13 May 2002 20:44:13 +0100
 13. IMP from Horde project
       "Ben Fogt" <bfogt at ichecktech dot com>
       Mon, 13 May 2002 16:55:26 -0400
 14. Re: Qualified Login
       "Peter Martin" <p.martin at ies.uk dot com>
       Tue, 14 May 2002 09:27:10 +0100
 15. Klez info (not much)
       Katie Percy <katiepercy at fredfinch dot org>
       Tue, 14 May 2002 09:33:21 -0700
 16. Re: Klez info (not much)
       Garry Wiegand <squeezix at ithaca dot com>
       Wed, 15 May 2002 00:50:41 -0700
 17. Hide Internal Domain headers
       "Jill Crawford" <jillc at golfpactravel dot com>
       Mon, 20 May 2002 14:44:17 -0400
 18. Worldmail is not recycling the log files
       "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
       Fri, 24 May 2002 08:39:59 -0500
 19. export question
       "Chris Taylor" <chris at ctay dot net>
       Mon, 3 Jun 2002 14:32:28 -0500
 20. RE: export question
       "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
       Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:04:04 +0100
 21. listserv question
       Gina Senz <gsenz at aium dot org>
       Tue, 04 Jun 2002 07:14:23 -0400
 22. Re: export question
       "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
       Tue, 4 Jun 2002 06:51:26 -0500
 23. WorldMail Bulkload Utility
       Tom Chandler <chandler at dean dot com>
       Wed, 5 Jun 2002 11:17:43 -0400
 24. Re: WorldMail Bulkload Utility
       Garry Wiegand <squeezix at ithaca dot com>
       Wed, 05 Jun 2002 14:17:47 -0700
 25. WorldMail and NetShield
       Tom Chandler <chandler at dean dot com>
       Fri, 7 Jun 2002 12:50:19 -0400
 26. Ooops
       "Ben Fogt" <bfogt at ichecktech dot com>
       Tue, 11 Jun 2002 12:40:49 -0400
 27. RE: Ooops
       "Chris Lander" <chris at altuscorp dot com>
       Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:51:34 -0700
 28. RE: Ooops
       "Ben Fogt" <bfogt at ichecktech dot com>
       Tue, 11 Jun 2002 12:57:49 -0400
 29. FW: Ooops
       "Chris Lander" <chris at altuscorp dot com>
       Tue, 11 Jun 2002 10:05:10 -0700
 30. Manager Access
       Greens In Oz! <greens at canada dot com>
       Wed, 12 Jun 2002 13:22:02 +1000
 31. Re: export question
       LHA MIS <mis at lhaarchitects dot com>
       Tue, 18 Jun 2002 14:05:04 -0700
 32. Please Help, 
       "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
       Thu, 27 Jun 2002 13:09:25 -0500
 33. RE: Please Help, 
       "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
       Thu, 27 Jun 2002 23:53:54 +0100
 34. Re: Please Help, 
       "Henry Avetisyan" <havetisyan at linkline dot com>
       Fri, 28 Jun 2002 00:31:53 -0700
 35. Re: Please Help, 
       "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
       Fri, 28 Jun 2002 06:01:15 -0500
 36. Re: WorldMail digest 28 Jun 2002
       "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
       Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:13:36 -0500
 37. Can Worldmail use LDAP for user authentication?
       "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
       Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:01:33 -0500
 38. RE: Can Worldmail use LDAP for user authentication?
       "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
       Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:18:58 +0100
 39. What's the difference between SMTP server and Relay server under security
       "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
       Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:31:23 -0500
 40. SMTP access to authorized POP3 users
       "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
       Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:37:37 -0500
 41. RE: SMTP access to authorized POP3 users
       "Ben Saren" <ben at atomicusa dot com>
       Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:41:11 -0400
 42. RE: SMTP access to authorized POP3 users
       William Hultman <whultman at cox dot net>
       Tue, 30 Jul 2002 12:33:10 -0700
 43. Worldmail resets user password
       "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
       Mon, 19 Aug 2002 07:32:51 -0500
 44. Worldmail pegs cpu
       "Phil" <pd at hoptechno dot com>
       Mon, 19 Aug 2002 12:27:13 -0500
 45. Re: Worldmail resets user password
       "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
       Mon, 19 Aug 2002 12:50:51 -0500
 46. Re: Worldmail pegs cpu
       Brian McIntyre <bmcintyre at therisingstar dot com>
       Mon, 19 Aug 2002 14:52:10 -0500
 47. RE: Worldmail pegs cpu
       "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
       Mon, 19 Aug 2002 21:04:26 +0100
 48. Eudora client question
       Ron Hiner <rhiner at softstone dot net>
       Mon, 19 Aug 2002 16:14:38 -0400
 49. Distribution Lists
       Steven Deon <sdeon at sterling-heights dot net>
       Mon, 19 Aug 2002 16:28:15 -0400
 50. RE: Distribution Lists
       "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
       Mon, 19 Aug 2002 22:02:57 +0100

Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 08:25:55 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: klez & eudora
From: "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>

Firewall level protection is another subject by itself and can be an
obscure one.Even when we have MessageLabs scanning all of our smtp traffic (in/out) we
do have to put some blocks on specific files like *.scr *.vb? *.hta *.dll
and others.  Because of the nature of our business, I don't block *.pdf
graphic files, and zip files among other popular extensions but they do
get scanned by MessageLabs and McAfee.
It is with experience that I have learned that you can't rely on just one
level of virus security because one can't catch them all.  that's why we
have to level of virus protection and I wish a third could be implemented:
user level security.  this is a hard one, to teach your users how to do
safe email.  It takes a lot of time to make your users aware that viruses
can cause a lot of damage and that their machine can be next.  Don't trust
any of them even if it's your CEO or CIO, even if you know they're power
users.

-- 
========
Elliott Bujan
MIS Support /\ 6am - 2:30pm CST
Rentokil, TPS  *:* www.rentokil-tps.com
847 634 4250 .x281
=========

<quote who="katie percy">
> Hi all --
>
> More detail on our setup, fwiw.  Worldmail on own server outside
> firewall,  was running NAV 2000 standalone (we've since made it a
> client of NAV Corp  which works faster & less freezes).  Gateway is
> Symantec Enterprise Gateway  (which has nav built in); we've excluded
> all but .xls, .doc and .rtf mail  attachments for now (logs show a lot
> of folks are not getting jpg's which I  assume are the usual humor or
> non-work related stuff).  Inside the firewall  we have NAV Corp Edition
> running, which has each workstation as a  client.  We use SonicWall as
> a firewall.  We are trying to (just took a few  days off, not sure
> where it's at) set up an internal gateway & change our  NT login script
> to edit the Eudora.ini file to change SMTP address to this  gateway so
> that we keep virus from spreading inside our domain.  I'll try  the
> line suggested in this script also to see if we can change viewer at
> the same time -- but where is that in the ini?
>
> I dunno about Worldmail interpreting mime attachments, but I have had
> random cases of users having attachments try to "embed" rather than
> attach,  even tho settings were correct.
>
> We don't allow Outlook or OE either -- I did let 2 power-users have it
> for  a while, people I knew would practice "safe mail" but then we got
> Nimda...  I've become a real Nazi about unauthorized programs that can
> cause security  breaches & delete every copy of OE and WAB that I find.
>
> I've talked to other folks who have McAfee on their networks with
> Eudora  that don't have problems with Klez either.  I kind of hate
> McAfee, but I  wonder if there's something there.  Or perhaps like
> someone said it's a  vulnerability in Worldmail rather than Eudora.
>
> Our various flavors of virus protection seem to be catching most
> infections, but I'm concerned that we can't stop the ping-pong'ing of
> this  virus long enough to get a sense of who might really be infected
> as some  folks certainly opened the attachments if they got them.  (An
> executive who  shall remain nameless got an email she thought was a
> virus & forwarded it  to me to check out... drum roll please...).
>
> I'll try the viewer thing & see if it makes any diff & will post back.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>>X-NAV-TimeoutProtection0: X
>>X-NAV-TimeoutProtection1: X
>>X-NAV-TimeoutProtection2: X
>>X-NAV-TimeoutProtection3: X
>>X-NAV-TimeoutProtection4: X
>>X-NAV-TimeoutProtection5: X
>>X-NAV-TimeoutProtection6: X
>>From: Garry Wiegand <squeezix at ithaca dot com>
>>To: Subscribers of WorldMail <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
>>Subject: Re: klez & eudora
>>Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 20:44:20 -0700
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>>
>>Katie Percy wrote:
>> >I may have missed a thread on this, but are other folks finding that
>> >Eudora is more vulnerable to klez virus than it has been to other
>> >viruses?  We're finding that it reads our address book in a way that
>> >Melissa et al didn't.  I've heard it suggested that this may be due
>> >to the "use MS viewer" setting -- any ideas on that?  Also, where
>> >does that setting live in the INI file?  I didn't see anything
>> >obvious on a cursory search.
>>
>>Yes, we got badly infected, with three different versions of Klez, and
>>we also have no earthly idea how. Everyone (all of two of us) were
>>definitely using only Eudora, and definitely not clicking on any
>>attachments. And for good measure, I have Spamcop scrubbing all of my
>>mail *before* it arrives in my Pop box, and I have Norton Antivirus
>>scrubbing everyone's mail as it leaves any of the Worldmail Pop boxes.
>>Nonetheless, infection occurred.
>>
>>All I could come up with was that "Microsoft viewer" idea. Which
>>doesn't make sense either, because Klez is not published as being
>>triggerable on that bad Microsoft MIME defect.
>>
>>Anyhow. Turn off "use Microsoft viewer" in Eudora. Eudora's viewer is
>>fine for anything I ever receive. The switch is in
>>Eudora/Tools/Options/Viewing.
>>
>>Hm. Is there *any* chance that Worldmail itself could be triggering
>>this little gem of a virus? ...I've seen hints that Worldmail
>>interprets Mime attachments as they go by. Though I never could figure
>>out any reason why it should want to do so. (Um, no, we're not making
>>use of Worldmail's IMAP handling.)
>>
>>Garry
>
>
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Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 14:27:49 -0400
From: Ryan Casey <rcasey at crp dot org>
Subject: Maximum number of messages

Does Worldmail 2.0 impose a limit on the maximum number of messages that a 
user can send at one time or over the course of a certain time period?

One of our users was sending out a mass e-mail using Group Mail Pro, which 
I believe sends the messages using BCC in "small" groups using our 
WorldMail server.  This was working very well until our list grew from 
5,000 to 8,000 members.  Group Mail Pro stopped after 6,200 messages with 
the error message that our ISP limits the number of mail messages we can 
send.  Of course, I assume "our ISP" is our mail server.  Group Mail Pro 
states in their docs that there is no limit on the number of messages that 
can be sent, and I haven't found anything in WorldMail's documentation 
stating that there is a limit.

Thanks,
-Ryan Casey


Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 15:28:59 -0400
From: Geof Tillotson <geof at ackme dot com>
Subject: Re: Maximum number of messages

Ryan -

Don't assume anything, you are probably being seen as a spammer by you 
upstream Internet Service Provider.  Whoever it is probably tracks the 
amount of traffic originating from your mail server and then locked you down.

If you are sending thousands of emails, they are probably of an advertising 
or newsletter nature, something like spam, and that's what I bet is happening.

Just call your ISP and explain what you are doing and they will probably 
explain there policies and procedures.  From your WHOIS info, it looks like 
the folks to talk with are the folks at Savvis.net - here is the contact 
info as provided by the WHOIS tool from Verisign.

Good Luck!

Technical Contact: DNS Administrator (DNS25-ORG) dns at SAVVIS dot NET
SAVVIS Communications 717 Office Parkway St. Louis, MO 63141 US (314) 
468-7000 Fax- (314) 468-6899


By the way 6k to 8k pieces of email definitely fits the bill of "bulk mail" 
and easily fits into the realm of spam.

Geof


At 02:27 PM 5/10/2002 -0400, Ryan Casey wrote:
>Does Worldmail 2.0 impose a limit on the maximum number of messages that a 
>user can send at one time or over the course of a certain time period?
>
>One of our users was sending out a mass e-mail using Group Mail Pro, which 
>I believe sends the messages using BCC in "small" groups using our 
>WorldMail server.  This was working very well until our list grew from 
>5,000 to 8,000 members.  Group Mail Pro stopped after 6,200 messages with 
>the error message that our ISP limits the number of mail messages we can 
>send.  Of course, I assume "our ISP" is our mail server.  Group Mail Pro 
>states in their docs that there is no limit on the number of messages that 
>can be sent, and I haven't found anything in WorldMail's documentation 
>stating that there is a limit.
>
>Thanks,
>-Ryan Casey

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From: "Jay Ligda" <jligda at lrb-creations dot com>
Subject: Need Help!  Anyone There?
Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 11:17:47 -0700

Hi,

I just signed up for this list.  I'm having a little crisis with my mail
server being down and the folks at Qualcomm are away for the weekend.

The problem is that mail sent to the server is being bounced back with the
error:

... while talking to mail.freesportsplay.com. [198.65.141.75]:
>>> RCPT To:<jligda at freesportsplay dot com>
<<< 550 Unable to relay for jligda at freesportsplay dot com
550 <jligda at freesportsplay dot com>... User unknown

This happens with both alias forwarding, mail list and mailbox users and for
all the domains.

Mail sent out through the server is not sent at all.

Can any make suggestions?  I've tried reloading the software, starting and
stopping the service.  Name server lookups and MX lookups seem to go through
OK.  Currently I have an open relay, which I will close again once I can
troubleshoot this problem.

Any insights will be welcomed.

Jay Ligda


The quote of the month for April is by George Eliot:

"It is never too late to be what you might have been."

(Pass it on to a friend or two)

You can visit the monthly quote web-site at:
http://www.monthlyquote.com


From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Need Help!  Anyone There?
Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 19:27:02 +0100

It looks like it does not recognise that mail address ...
jligda at freesportsplay dot com as being local.
Check 1000% for spelling mistakes in domain name in Worldmail (like missing
one of the S's)

Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jay Ligda [mailto:jligda at lrb-creations dot com]
> Sent: 11 May 2002 19:18
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: Need Help! Anyone There?
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I just signed up for this list.  I'm having a little crisis with my mail
> server being down and the folks at Qualcomm are away for the weekend.
>
> The problem is that mail sent to the server is being bounced back with the
> error:
>
> ... while talking to mail.freesportsplay.com. [198.65.141.75]:
> >>> RCPT To:<jligda at freesportsplay dot com>
> <<< 550 Unable to relay for jligda at freesportsplay dot com
> 550 <jligda at freesportsplay dot com>... User unknown
>
> This happens with both alias forwarding, mail list and mailbox
> users and for
> all the domains.
>
> Mail sent out through the server is not sent at all.
>
> Can any make suggestions?  I've tried reloading the software, starting and
> stopping the service.  Name server lookups and MX lookups seem to
> go through
> OK.  Currently I have an open relay, which I will close again once I can
> troubleshoot this problem.
>
> Any insights will be welcomed.
>
> Jay Ligda
>
>
> The quote of the month for April is by George Eliot:
>
> "It is never too late to be what you might have been."
>
> (Pass it on to a friend or two)
>
> You can visit the monthly quote web-site at:
> http://www.monthlyquote.com
>
>


From: "Art Lazanoff" <art at parrotbyte dot com>
Subject: RE: Need Help!  Anyone There?
Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 22:53:56 -0700

Your note doesn't say whether you are submitting mail on the same system
that the worldmail server is running on or from somewhere else on the
network.

Does the domain name for worldmail's mailboxes agree with the address
that the MX record points to?

It also looks like there's a potential problem with reverse lookups. A
traceroute on mail.FREESPORTSPLAY.COM's IP address doesn't return the
domain name.


C:\>tracert 198.65.141.75

Tracing route to 198.65.141.75 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1    20 ms    20 ms    20 ms  209-128-90-173.bayarea.net
[209.128.90.173]
  2    20 ms    20 ms    20 ms  cr1sj1-e4.BAYAREA.NET [209.128.95.238]
  3    10 ms    20 ms    20 ms  cr0sj1-e4.BAYAREA.NET [209.128.95.236]
  4    20 ms    20 ms    20 ms  border8.s6-8.bais-1.sfj.pnap.net
[63.251.240.125]
  5    10 ms    20 ms    20 ms  acr2-sonet2-3-1-0.SanFrancisco.cw.net
[206.24.209.137]
  6    20 ms    30 ms    20 ms  acr1-loopback.SantaClara.cw.net
[208.172.146.61]
  7    20 ms    31 ms    20 ms  bpr2-loopback.PaloAltoPaix.cw.net
[208.172.146.19]
  8    20 ms    20 ms    30 ms  bpr2-loopback.PaloAltoPaix.cw.net
[208.172.146.19]
  9    20 ms    20 ms    30 ms  p16-1-1-0.r21.plalca01.us.bb.verio.net
[129.250.3.84]
 10    20 ms    20 ms    30 ms  p16-5-0-0.r00.mlpsca01.us.bb.verio.net
[129.250.5.69]
 11    60 ms    30 ms    70 ms  p16-0-0-0.r02.chcgil01.us.bb.verio.net
[129.250.5.133]
 12    60 ms    71 ms    60 ms  p16-5-0-0.r01.chcgil01.us.bb.verio.net
[129.250.2.220]
 13    60 ms    70 ms    90 ms  p16-2-0-0.r02.stngva01.us.bb.verio.net
[129.250.5.103]
 14    90 ms   100 ms   100 ms  ge-3-1.c00.stngva01.us.ah.vwh.net
[129.250.27.216]
 15    90 ms    90 ms    90 ms  161.58.156.181
 16    90 ms    90 ms    90 ms  198.65.141.75

Trace complete.

C:\>nslookup
Default Server:  dns3sj1.bayarea.net
Address:  205.219.84.7

> set q=any
> server ns1.dn.net
Default Server:  ns1.dn.net
Address:  207.153.206.126

> FREESPORTSPLAY.COM
Server:  ns1.dn.net
Address:  207.153.206.126

FREESPORTSPLAY.COM      MX preference = 0, mail exchanger 
mail.FREESPORTSPLAY.COM
FREESPORTSPLAY.COM      nameserver = ns1.dn.net
FREESPORTSPLAY.COM      nameserver = ns2.dn.net
FREESPORTSPLAY.COM
        primary name server = ns1.dn.net
        responsible mail addr = dnsadmin.dn.net
        serial  = 2002021201
        refresh = 10800 (3 hours)
        retry   = 3600 (1 hour)
        expire  = 604800 (7 days)
        default TTL = 86400 (1 day)
FREESPORTSPLAY.COM      internet address = 198.65.141.75
FREESPORTSPLAY.COM      nameserver = ns1.dn.net
FREESPORTSPLAY.COM      nameserver = ns2.dn.net
mail.FREESPORTSPLAY.COM internet address = 198.65.141.75
ns1.dn.net      internet address = 207.153.206.126
ns2.dn.net      internet address = 161.58.158.45
> exit


Art

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jay Ligda [mailto:jligda at lrb-creations dot com] 
> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 11:18 AM
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: Need Help! Anyone There?
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I just signed up for this list.  I'm having a little crisis 
> with my mail server being down and the folks at Qualcomm are 
> away for the weekend.
> 
> The problem is that mail sent to the server is being bounced 
> back with the
> error:
> 
> ... while talking to mail.freesportsplay.com. [198.65.141.75]:
> >>> RCPT To:<jligda at freesportsplay dot com>
> <<< 550 Unable to relay for jligda at freesportsplay dot com
> 550 <jligda at freesportsplay dot com>... User unknown
> 
> This happens with both alias forwarding, mail list and 
> mailbox users and for all the domains.
> 
> Mail sent out through the server is not sent at all.
> 
> Can any make suggestions?  I've tried reloading the software, 
> starting and stopping the service.  Name server lookups and 
> MX lookups seem to go through OK.  Currently I have an open 
> relay, which I will close again once I can troubleshoot this problem.
> 
> Any insights will be welcomed.
> 
> Jay Ligda
> 
> 
> The quote of the month for April is by George Eliot:
> 
> "It is never too late to be what you might have been."
> 
> (Pass it on to a friend or two)
> 
> You can visit the monthly quote web-site at: 
> http://www.monthlyquote.com
> 


Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 09:17:54 -0400
From: Ann Compton <acompton at nationaloptronics dot com>
Subject: Relaying

We are running a private IP space with NAT at our router.  We have been 
identified as a possible relay.  I have two users outside of the building 
who also use our mail address. Everyone else is internal. What is the best 
way to prevent relaying?

Ann Compton


From: Matt Hemingway <matt at supplyedge dot com>
Subject: Re: Relaying
Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 08:13:07 -0700

Enable POP before SMTP.  

-Matt

On Monday 13 May 2002 06:17, Ann Compton wrote:
> We are running a private IP space with NAT at our router.  We have been
> identified as a possible relay.  I have two users outside of the building
> who also use our mail address. Everyone else is internal. What is the best
> way to prevent relaying?
>
> Ann Compton

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From: "Art Lazanoff" <art at parrotbyte dot com>
Subject: RE: Relaying
Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 08:25:25 -0700

out of the box, worldmail is an open relay server. You'll need to find
WorldMail's security settings and turn off relaying. Then you turn on
either the specific ip address or subnet that your outside users are
using on the internet.

Art

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ann Compton [mailto:acompton at nationaloptronics dot com] 
> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 6:18 AM
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: Relaying
> 
> 
> We are running a private IP space with NAT at our router.  We 
> have been 
> identified as a possible relay.  I have two users outside of 
> the building 
> who also use our mail address. Everyone else is internal. 
> What is the best 
> way to prevent relaying?
> 
> Ann Compton
> 


From: "Ben Fogt" <bfogt at ichecktech dot com>
Subject: Qualified Login
Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 14:53:34 -0400

I'm running a Worldmail server that hosts about 20 small domains.  Right
now, every user has to use their fully qualified address to access their
email.  I am starting a web mail project and would like to see these folks
not need to use their fully qualified addresses for mail.  Is there a way to
make this happen?

Ben Fogt


From: "Tom Kemp" <KempT at presearch dot com>
Subject: RE: Qualified Login
Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 15:05:32 -0400

None that I'm aware of.  Without the Domain name on the end, how would 
worldmail decipher between john@domaina and john@domainb.  That's the 
logic that Qualcomm followed with Worldmail, as it makes sense.  You can 
set one domain as the default domain.  The members of the default domain 
don't have to use their domain name, as it will always look within this 
account if no domain was provided at login.

Dennis T. Kemp II (Tom)
Program Manager/MCSE/CCNA/A+

Control Concepts, Inc.
8500 Executive Park Ave.
Suite 400
Fairfax, Va.  22031

KempT at controlconceptsinc dot com 
703-876-6418
Fax# 703-876-6416

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Fogt [mailto:bfogt at ichecktech dot com]
> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 2:54 PM
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: Qualified Login
> 
> 
> I'm running a Worldmail server that hosts about 20 small domains.  
Right
> now, every user has to use their fully qualified address to access 
their
> email.  I am starting a web mail project and would like to see these 
folks
> not need to use their fully qualified addresses for mail.  Is 
> there a way to
> make this happen?
> 
> Ben Fogt
> 


From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Qualified Login
Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 20:44:13 +0100

You could put the logic into the web mail front-end.

If the communities are pretty small and not changing much ... then you could
hold a list within the webmail login process.
If not - then you could issue a management command to Worldmail from within
the web app to periodically sync or to check to see what domain a domain a
given "userId" is in.

If the web mail supports LDAP then you could turn on that function in
Worldmail and make the webmail check data in there.

There might be another method in Worldmail ... to use an alias instead of an
email address when logging in ... I can't remember the specifics, but it was
related to a trick sort-of-DNS within the underlying software.  If it is in
there ... then I think you would have to start again with your install - it
being a once and forever configuration item. [I think it was originally done
for multi-machine distributed domain support ... which would never be needed
in a Worldmail installation but was often used within its "big brother"]

Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Kemp [mailto:KempT at presearch dot com]
> Sent: 13 May 2002 20:06
> To: 'Subscribers of WorldMail'; Ben Fogt
> Subject: RE: Qualified Login
> Importance: High
>
>
> None that I'm aware of.  Without the Domain name on the end, how
> would worldmail decipher between john@domaina and john@domainb.
> That's the logic that Qualcomm followed with Worldmail, as it
> makes sense.  You can set one domain as the default domain.  The
> members of the default domain don't have to use their domain
> name, as it will always look within this account if no domain was
> provided at login.
>
> Dennis T. Kemp II (Tom)
> Program Manager/MCSE/CCNA/A+
>
> Control Concepts, Inc.
> 8500 Executive Park Ave.
> Suite 400
> Fairfax, Va.  22031
>
> KempT at controlconceptsinc dot com
> 703-876-6418
> Fax# 703-876-6416
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ben Fogt [mailto:bfogt at ichecktech dot com]
> > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 2:54 PM
> > To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> > Subject: Qualified Login
> >
> >
> > I'm running a Worldmail server that hosts about 20 small domains.  Right
> > now, every user has to use their fully qualified address to access their
> > email.  I am starting a web mail project and would like to see
> these folks
> > not need to use their fully qualified addresses for mail.  Is
> > there a way to
> > make this happen?
> >
> > Ben Fogt
> >
>
>


From: "Ben Fogt" <bfogt at ichecktech dot com>
Subject: IMP from Horde project
Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 16:55:26 -0400

Has anyone gone through the process of setting up Horde and the IMP webmail
tool with all of the options?  It would be pretty easy minus Apache
configuration under Windows (GNU gettext, in particular).  I guess I bleed
Penguin Red.

www.horde.org

Ben


From: "Peter Martin" <p.martin at ies.uk dot com>
Subject: Re: Qualified Login
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 09:27:10 +0100

Or...

Stick all the users in the default domain (must have unique names) and then
setup alias's from the other 'real' domains?

Peter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Kemp" <KempT at presearch dot com>
To: "'Subscribers of WorldMail'" <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>; "Ben Fogt"
<bfogt at ichecktech dot com>
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 8:05 PM
Subject: RE: Qualified Login


None that I'm aware of.  Without the Domain name on the end, how would
worldmail decipher between john@domaina and john@domainb.  That's the logic
that Qualcomm followed with Worldmail, as it makes sense.  You can set one
domain as the default domain.  The members of the default domain don't have
to use their domain name, as it will always look within this account if no
domain was provided at login.

Dennis T. Kemp II (Tom)
Program Manager/MCSE/CCNA/A+

Control Concepts, Inc.
8500 Executive Park Ave.
Suite 400
Fairfax, Va.  22031

KempT at controlconceptsinc dot com
703-876-6418
Fax# 703-876-6416

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Fogt [mailto:bfogt at ichecktech dot com]
> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 2:54 PM
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: Qualified Login
>
>
> I'm running a Worldmail server that hosts about 20 small domains.  Right
> now, every user has to use their fully qualified address to access their
> email.  I am starting a web mail project and would like to see these folks
> not need to use their fully qualified addresses for mail.  Is
> there a way to
> make this happen?
>
> Ben Fogt
>



Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 09:33:21 -0700
From: Katie Percy <katiepercy at fredfinch dot org>
Subject: Klez info (not much)

One and two thirds buildings down...

For those of you using NAV Corp edition to scan computers remotely, the 
only thing I've found that might be helpful to pinpointing the computer(s) 
in you network that are actually infected is to study your sweep 
histories.  Because Klez attacks the NAV client, those computers will not 
show up at all on a sweep.  So if you have a manageable number of stations 
and can spot an AWOL machine easily, that might be a useful place at least 
to start your investigations.  Another clue would be a computer that shows 
in the main screen but when you right click for a virus history the server 
tells you it cannot gather data from that machine: this could indicate a 
machine that formerly reported in and no longer can because client has been 
destroyed.  (It could also reflect a dial-in connection, a laptop that's 
gone mobile, etc.)

What I'd like to see Symantec do is have a second set of flags for the 
latter instance: the red X would indicate virus found, perhaps a yellow 
bang (!) could indicate a client machine that should be but is not 
reporting to the server.

I'm afraid this isn't much help, but hope it's some.  FWIW we've found 2 
true infections so far and both machines will have to be reformatted.

My fear is we'll get this cleaned up just in time for the next virus...


From: Garry Wiegand <squeezix at ithaca dot com>
Subject: Re: Klez info (not much)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 00:50:41 -0700

Katie wrote:
>I'm afraid this isn't much help, but hope it's some.  FWIW we've found 2
 
>true infections so far and both machines will have to be reformatted.

Why reformat? Klez isn't -that- bad. As far as I know.

As far as NAV itself being infected... 

Option one is to kill off the Klez process (so that it can't infect 
anything
more), disconnect the machine from your office net but not the internet,
install a fresh copy of NAV, and let the new NAV do its thing.

Option two is to kill off the Klez process, then point NAV at the machine
 in
question from some other machine on the net, and let it scrub the machine
over the net.

Option three is not bother killing off the Klez process (it can have many
names), and to just keep doing the rest of Option one or two repeatedly 
until
the machine scan turns up clean.

Hope this helps. I've done Klez with both option one and option two with
success. On one of the machines I also did an "upgrade-in-place" of 
Win2000
in order to recover a couple damaged system files.

Of course, if rebuilding the disk is easy, there's nothing wrong with 
doing
it that way.

Garry

From: "Jill Crawford" <jillc at golfpactravel dot com>
Subject: Hide Internal Domain headers
Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 14:44:17 -0400

How is everyone hiding internal IP schemes from being revealed in the email
headers?  Thanks for your input.

Jill Crawford


From: "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 08:39:59 -0500
Subject: Worldmail is not recycling the log files

I keep a rotation of 10 log files on my server but when the log reaches # 10, logging 
stops, it won't replace the oldest to make room for the new log.
So I'm missing log entries and I have to delete the log files manually.

Is there some sort of rotation settings, by date or by size that I can adjust?

Elliott



--
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847.634.4250  .x281  - www.rentokil-tps.com
3750 W Deerfield Rd
Riverwoods, IL  60015


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From: "Chris Taylor" <chris at ctay dot net>
Subject: export question
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 14:32:28 -0500

I need to get a list of all emails accounts and passwords from my Worldmail
server.  I can use the bulkload utility to export this information but the
passwords are encrypted.  Is there any way to get the passwords or to decode
the encryption?

--------------------
Chris Taylor
Connect Technologies
http://www.ctay.net
979.764.2985 phone
866.764.2985 toll free
530.463.9249 fax


From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: export question
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:04:04 +0100

'Fraid not.

Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Taylor [mailto:chris at ctay dot net]
> Sent: 03 June 2002 20:32
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: export question
>
>
> I need to get a list of all emails accounts and passwords from my
> Worldmail
> server.  I can use the bulkload utility to export this information but the
> passwords are encrypted.  Is there any way to get the passwords
> or to decode
> the encryption?
>
> --------------------
> Chris Taylor
> Connect Technologies
> http://www.ctay.net
> 979.764.2985 phone
> 866.764.2985 toll free
> 530.463.9249 fax
>
>


Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 07:14:23 -0400
From: Gina Senz <gsenz at aium dot org>
Subject: listserv question

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We're considering moving our listserv capabilities in-house.  We currently 
use Sparklist/Lyris services. I'd like to keep the listserv accounts in a 
different email domain than the rest of our 35+ users and distribution lists.

First question:  Is everyone that is using WorldMail as a listserv happy 
with the functionality and manageability of WorldMail?

Second question:   Our current domain is X.org. If I create a domain called 
Y.X.org, it creates some havoc with the mail, as everything X.org is trying 
to be delivered to the first domain.  Is adding a simple MX and A record in 
our DNS enough, or will I have to create a new domain name and register it?

Thank you for any suggestions you may have.

gina
.
Gina Senz
MIS Manager
American Institute of Ultrasound in Medicine
14750 Sweitzer Lane, Suite 100
Laurel, MD 20707-5906
www.aium.org
Ph:301-498-4100 Fax: 301-498-4450




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in-house.&nbsp; We currently use Sparklist/Lyris services. I'd like to
keep the listserv accounts in a different email domain than the rest of
our 35+ users and distribution lists. </div>
<br>
<div>First question:&nbsp; Is everyone that is using WorldMail as a
listserv happy with the functionality and manageability of
WorldMail?</div>
<br>
<div>Second question:&nbsp;&nbsp; Our current domain is X.org. If I
create a domain called Y.X.org, it creates some havoc with the mail, as
everything X.org is trying to be delivered to the first domain.&nbsp; Is
adding a simple MX and A record in our DNS enough, or will I have to
create a new domain name and register it?</div>
<br>
<div>Thank you for any suggestions you may have.</div>
<br>
gina
<br>

. <br>
<font color="#0000FF"><div align="center">
Gina Senz<br>
MIS Manager<br>
</font>American Institute of Ultrasound in Medicine<br>
14750 Sweitzer Lane, Suite 100<br>
Laurel, MD 20707-5906<br>
<font color="#0000FF"><u><a href="http://www.aium.org/" eudora="autourl">www.aium.org</a>
<br>
</font></u>Ph:301-498-4100 Fax: 301-498-4450<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</html>

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From: "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 06:51:26 -0500
Subject: Re: export question

You can only get usernames - passwords... dream on

On 3 Jun 2002 at 14:32, Chris Taylor wrote:

> I need to get a list of all emails accounts and passwords from my Worldmail
> server.  I can use the bulkload utility to export this information but the
> passwords are encrypted.  Is there any way to get the passwords or to decode
> the encryption?
> 
> --------------------
> Chris Taylor
> Connect Technologies
> http://www.ctay.net
> 979.764.2985 phone
> 866.764.2985 toll free
> 530.463.9249 fax
> 
> 
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3750 W Deerfield Rd
Riverwoods, IL  60015


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Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 11:17:43 -0400
From: Tom Chandler <chandler at dean dot com>
Subject: WorldMail Bulkload Utility

I am currently trying to migrate our WorldMail Server from an old 
Dell to a relatively new Compaq.  When I try to use the Bulkload 
Utility to export the configuration from the Dell I get the message 
"abnormal program termination" (and the text file is empty). So, I 
have two questions:

1.  Is there any way to fix Bulkload Utility on the current server(the Dell)?

2.  Is there any other way to move the entire  configuration from the 
Dell to the Compaq(besides the Bulkload Utility)?

Thanks for any suggestions you may have.

Tom


From: Garry Wiegand <squeezix at ithaca dot com>
Subject: Re: WorldMail Bulkload Utility
Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 14:17:47 -0700

Tom Chandler wrote:
>2.  Is there any other way to move the entire  configuration from the 
>Dell to the Compaq(besides the Bulkload Utility)?

I would just go into regedit or regedt32 on the old machine, dump the
HKLM\SOFTWARE\ISOCOR registry key, and then load it up on the new 
machine.

Garry

Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 12:50:19 -0400
From: Tom Chandler <chandler at dean dot com>
Subject: WorldMail and NetShield

Has anybody encountered any problems in using WorldMail with McAfee NetShield?

Thanks to everyone for help with my Bulkload Utility Question.

Tom

From: "Ben Fogt" <bfogt at ichecktech dot com>
Subject: Ooops
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 12:40:49 -0400

I um... just did a needed upgrade to the mail server and realized afterwards
that the stored passwords don't get me where they got me before.

I didn't set this thing up, so I'm very unsure what any of the passwords
might be.  Is there a magical reset?  The problem is that I can't get in to
configure my internet mail.  I can now use the web interfaces, but nothing
in the manager on the system itself.

Uhhhgggg!

Ben


From: "Chris Lander" <chris at altuscorp dot com>
Subject: RE: Ooops
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:51:34 -0700

I don't think you're truly a sysadmin until you do something like that. ;)
Just be thankful you did on a system where you *can* reset the password.

There's an article in Eudora's Knowledge Base on how to change your admin
passwords:
http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/889hq.html

It won't help at all with the users accounts.

-cl

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Fogt [mailto:bfogt at ichecktech dot com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 09:41
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Ooops


I um... just did a needed upgrade to the mail server and realized afterwards
that the stored passwords don't get me where they got me before.

I didn't set this thing up, so I'm very unsure what any of the passwords
might be.  Is there a magical reset?  The problem is that I can't get in to
configure my internet mail.  I can now use the web interfaces, but nothing
in the manager on the system itself.

Uhhhgggg!

Ben


From: "Ben Fogt" <bfogt at ichecktech dot com>
Subject: RE: Ooops
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 12:57:49 -0400

Thanks.  That will save me a few times down the road, I can tell.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Lander [mailto:chris at altuscorp dot com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 12:52 PM
To: Ben Fogt; Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: RE: Ooops


I don't think you're truly a sysadmin until you do something like that. ;)
Just be thankful you did on a system where you *can* reset the password.

There's an article in Eudora's Knowledge Base on how to change your admin
passwords:
http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/889hq.html

It won't help at all with the users accounts.

-cl

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Fogt [mailto:bfogt at ichecktech dot com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 09:41
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: Ooops


I um... just did a needed upgrade to the mail server and realized afterwards
that the stored passwords don't get me where they got me before.

I didn't set this thing up, so I'm very unsure what any of the passwords
might be.  Is there a magical reset?  The problem is that I can't get in to
configure my internet mail.  I can now use the web interfaces, but nothing
in the manager on the system itself.

Uhhhgggg!

Ben


From: "Chris Lander" <chris at altuscorp dot com>
Subject: FW: Ooops
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 10:05:10 -0700

Forwarded on behalf of Geof Tillotson...

-----Original Message-----
From: Geof Tillotson [mailto:geof at ackme dot com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 10:05
To: Chris Lander
Subject: RE: Ooops


Been there .....

The article does help - be careful and do exactly as it says (the voice of
experience - aaagghhhhh!)

Geof


At 09:51 AM 6/11/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>I don't think you're truly a sysadmin until you do something like that. ;)
>Just be thankful you did on a system where you *can* reset the password.
>
>There's an article in Eudora's Knowledge Base on how to change your admin
>passwords:
>http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/889hq.html
>
>It won't help at all with the users accounts.
>
>-cl
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ben Fogt [mailto:bfogt at ichecktech dot com]
>Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 09:41
>To: Subscribers of WorldMail
>Subject: Ooops
>
>
>I um... just did a needed upgrade to the mail server and realized
afterwards
>that the stored passwords don't get me where they got me before.
>
>I didn't set this thing up, so I'm very unsure what any of the passwords
>might be.  Is there a magical reset?  The problem is that I can't get in to
>configure my internet mail.  I can now use the web interfaces, but nothing
>in the manager on the system itself.
>
>Uhhhgggg!
>
>Ben

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Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 13:22:02 +1000
From: Greens In Oz! <greens at canada dot com>
Subject: Manager Access

Have had Worldmail running without a hitch for almost 3 years.  Rarely have
to do anything admin wise, but when I went to add a new distribution list I
found that all the add options are grayed out or unavailable.  A little
hunting around and I found  "Changing the manager passwords" (page 168 of
the manual), but those options are grayed out as well.

I have tried logging into the box as domain admin/local admin without any
luck ...

Am sort of stumped with it now ... would appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Steve Green


Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 14:05:04 -0700
From: LHA MIS <mis at lhaarchitects dot com>
Subject: Re: export question

I know one easy way:

On the email server run locally regedit.exe

Find HKLM\SOFTWARE\ISOCOR\Services\SMTP\LocaDomains\"Your domain"\Names

Highlight the folder "Names" and click on "Registry" in the top menu and 
select "Export..."
then save it in a folder as "UserNames.reg" for example. (the file has to 
be saved with the "reg" extension.)

Now you have a backup copy of your user accounts including the passwords.

In case your email server crashes and you have to reinstall the whole 
enchilada, once it's reinstalled, you just have to execute locally the 
unsernames.reg file and it will restore your user accounts.

Geza

P.s.: If you mess up your registry, please don't blame me . It is your 
responsibility to know what you're doing with the registry.




Geza Levai
LAN Administrator
Leidenfrost/Horowitz & Associates
818-246-6050 ext.62
Glendale, CA



From: "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 13:09:25 -0500
Subject: Please Help,

none of my users can connect to the server.
Under Isotrace it reads,
-ERR [REFERRAL POP3://RENTOKIL.RENTOKIL-TPS.COM] wrong 
message store please connecto to rentokil.rentokil-tps.com

I did installed a WINS SERVER on a standalone server and changed 
my mail server settings to use it.  but when I got this error, I revert it 
back to the original config.  I even uninstalled WINS server.

Please help, none of my users can get their messages, please reply to 
my work address
ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com


thanks



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847.634.4250  .x281  - www.rentokil-tps.com
3750 W Deerfield Rd
Riverwoods, IL  60015


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From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Please Help,
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 23:53:54 +0100

Looks like the mail server can't find its own name ... and has decided that
it must be in a special multi-machine environment (as used by "ISOCOR" when
the full function product was sold to ISPs) - So-called Distributed Domain.
I am a bit surprised though - because I thought that it only did referrals
for IMAP4.

Thought - what happens if you add one new mailbox and try to login to it?

Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elliott Bujan [mailto:ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com]
> Sent: 27 June 2002 19:09
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: Please Help,
>
>
> none of my users can connect to the server.
> Under Isotrace it reads,
> -ERR [REFERRAL POP3://RENTOKIL.RENTOKIL-TPS.COM] wrong
> message store please connecto to rentokil.rentokil-tps.com
>
> I did installed a WINS SERVER on a standalone server and changed
> my mail server settings to use it.  but when I got this error, I
> revert it
> back to the original config.  I even uninstalled WINS server.
>
> Please help, none of my users can get their messages, please reply to
> my work address
> ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com
>
>
> thanks
>
>
>
> --
> Elliott Bujan
> MIS Dept. - Rentokil, TPS
> 847.634.4250  .x281  - www.rentokil-tps.com
> 3750 W Deerfield Rd
> Riverwoods, IL  60015
>
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From: "Henry Avetisyan" <havetisyan at linkline dot com>
Subject: Re: Please Help,
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 00:31:53 -0700

Have you made any changes to your system settings - computer name, domain
name, etc? In your case the message store service no longer thinks that it's
running on a server called rentokil.rentokil-tps.com. I'd suggest you run
Isotrace and then restart the message store server. One of the first lines
it prints is the server name that it determined that it runs on.
Verify that the server name is rentokil.rentokil-tps.com.

Henry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
To: "Subscribers of WorldMail" <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 11:09 AM
Subject: Please Help,


> none of my users can connect to the server.
> Under Isotrace it reads,
> -ERR [REFERRAL POP3://RENTOKIL.RENTOKIL-TPS.COM] wrong
> message store please connecto to rentokil.rentokil-tps.com
>
> I did installed a WINS SERVER on a standalone server and changed
> my mail server settings to use it.  but when I got this error, I revert it
> back to the original config.  I even uninstalled WINS server.
>
> Please help, none of my users can get their messages, please reply to
> my work address
> ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com
>
>
> thanks
>
>
>
> --
> Elliott Bujan
> MIS Dept. - Rentokil, TPS
> 847.634.4250  .x281  - www.rentokil-tps.com
> 3750 W Deerfield Rd
> Riverwoods, IL  60015
>
>
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From: "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 06:01:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Please Help,

Yes, I found out that I changed the tcp/ip settings (domain) of the 
server.

thanks all.

Elliott

On 28 Jun 2002 at 0:31, Henry Avetisyan wrote:

> Have you made any changes to your system settings - computer name, domain
> name, etc? In your case the message store service no longer thinks that it's
> running on a server called rentokil.rentokil-tps.com. I'd suggest you run
> Isotrace and then restart the message store server. One of the first lines
> it prints is the server name that it determined that it runs on.
> Verify that the server name is rentokil.rentokil-tps.com.
> 
> Henry
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
> To: "Subscribers of WorldMail" <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 11:09 AM
> Subject: Please Help,
> 
> 
> > none of my users can connect to the server.
> > Under Isotrace it reads,
> > -ERR [REFERRAL POP3://RENTOKIL.RENTOKIL-TPS.COM] wrong
> > message store please connecto to rentokil.rentokil-tps.com
> >
> > I did installed a WINS SERVER on a standalone server and changed
> > my mail server settings to use it.  but when I got this error, I revert it
> > back to the original config.  I even uninstalled WINS server.
> >
> > Please help, none of my users can get their messages, please reply to
> > my work address
> > ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com
> >
> >
> > thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Elliott Bujan
> > MIS Dept. - Rentokil, TPS
> > 847.634.4250  .x281  - www.rentokil-tps.com
> > 3750 W Deerfield Rd
> > Riverwoods, IL  60015
> >
> >
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3750 W Deerfield Rd
Riverwoods, IL  60015


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From: "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:13:36 -0500
Subject: Re: WorldMail digest 28 Jun 2002

I have changed the domain name on my server and didn't reboot at 
the time.  Yesterday, after uninstalling the Wins server I rebooted the 
server and the tcp change was in effect, and the whole thing 
happened.

Checked everything else but the simplest thing.  that's how it goes, 
right.

Thanks.

On 28 Jun 2002 at 8:47, David Faber wrote:

> Set the default domain in the Worldmail server preferences. Please post 
> this to the list.
> 
> On Friday, June 28, 2002, at 02:00 AM, WorldMail list wrote:
> 
> > Topics covered in this issue include:
> >
> >   1. Please Help,
> >        "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
> >        Thu, 27 Jun 2002 13:09:25 -0500
> >   2. RE: Please Help,
> >        "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
> >        Thu, 27 Jun 2002 23:53:54 +0100
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
> > Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 13:09:25 -0500
> > Subject: Please Help,
> >
> > none of my users can connect to the server.
> > Under Isotrace it reads,
> > -ERR [REFERRAL POP3://RENTOKIL.RENTOKIL-TPS.COM] wrong
> > message store please connecto to rentokil.rentokil-tps.com
> >
> > I did installed a WINS SERVER on a standalone server and changed
> > my mail server settings to use it.  but when I got this error, I revert 
> > it
> > back to the original config.  I even uninstalled WINS server.
> >
> > Please help, none of my users can get their messages, please reply to
> > my work address
> > ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com
> >
> >
> > thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Elliott Bujan
> > MIS Dept. - Rentokil, TPS
> > 847.634.4250  .x281  - www.rentokil-tps.com
> > 3750 W Deerfield Rd
> > Riverwoods, IL  60015
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
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> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
> > Subject: RE: Please Help,
> > Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 23:53:54 +0100
> >
> > Looks like the mail server can't find its own name ... and has decided 
> > that
> > it must be in a special multi-machine environment (as used by "ISOCOR" 
> > when
> > the full function product was sold to ISPs) - So-called Distributed 
> > Domain.
> > I am a bit surprised though - because I thought that it only did 
> > referrals
> > for IMAP4.
> >
> > Thought - what happens if you add one new mailbox and try to login to 
> > it?
> >
> > Paul
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Elliott Bujan [mailto:ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com]
> >> Sent: 27 June 2002 19:09
> >> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> >> Subject: Please Help,
> >>
> >>
> >> none of my users can connect to the server.
> >> Under Isotrace it reads,
> >> -ERR [REFERRAL POP3://RENTOKIL.RENTOKIL-TPS.COM] wrong
> >> message store please connecto to rentokil.rentokil-tps.com
> >>
> >> I did installed a WINS SERVER on a standalone server and changed
> >> my mail server settings to use it.  but when I got this error, I
> >> revert it
> >> back to the original config.  I even uninstalled WINS server.
> >>
> >> Please help, none of my users can get their messages, please reply to
> >> my work address
> >> ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com
> >>
> >>
> >> thanks
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Elliott Bujan
> >> MIS Dept. - Rentokil, TPS
> >> 847.634.4250  .x281  - www.rentokil-tps.com
> >> 3750 W Deerfield Rd
> >> Riverwoods, IL  60015
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________________________________________________
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> >> service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working
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> >>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> >
>     David Faber
> =====================
> http://dfaber.uchicago.edu
> 
> 
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3750 W Deerfield Rd
Riverwoods, IL  60015


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From: "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:01:33 -0500
Subject: Can Worldmail use LDAP for user authentication?

We are trying to consolidate some systems with distributed 
authentication and I was wondering if Worldmail can use LDAP to 
authenticate users.
I know the server comes w/a LDAP server for directory services (which 
I still haven't been able to use).


Thank you, Elliott

==============================
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Help Desk / MIS
Rentokil, TPS - USA
(847) 634 4250 ext. 281  / Fax: (847) 634 6820
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From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Can Worldmail use LDAP for user authentication?
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:18:58 +0100

Sorry - pretty sure that it cannot.
It can maintain data in LDAP on your behalf for other applications to use -
i.e. you create a User Account and Worldmail writes data to LDAP.

Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elliott Bujan [mailto:ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com]
> Sent: 15 July 2002 14:02
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: Can Worldmail use LDAP for user authentication?
>
>
> We are trying to consolidate some systems with distributed
> authentication and I was wondering if Worldmail can use LDAP to
> authenticate users.
> I know the server comes w/a LDAP server for directory services (which
> I still haven't been able to use).
>
>
> Thank you, Elliott
>
> ==============================
> Elliott Bujan
> Help Desk / MIS
> Rentokil, TPS - USA
> (847) 634 4250 ext. 281  / Fax: (847) 634 6820
> ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com
> www.rentokil-tps.com
>
> ==============================
>
>
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From: "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:31:23 -0500
Subject: What's the difference between SMTP server and Relay server under security

Under Internet mail | Security, when would you use SMTP Server and 
Message Relaying?

we use a company to scan all our outgoing and incoming messages;  
all our clients point to their SMTP servers to send and to our POP3 to 
receive.



Thank you, Elliott

==============================
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Help Desk / MIS
Rentokil, TPS - USA
(847) 634 4250 ext. 281  / Fax: (847) 634 6820
ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com
www.rentokil-tps.com

==============================


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From: "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:37:37 -0500
Subject: SMTP access to authorized POP3 users

Is there somewhere in worldmail that I can configure access to the SMTP server from 
authenticated POP3 users?

How could I do it?




Thank you, Elliott

==============================
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Help Desk / MIS
Rentokil, TPS - USA
(847) 634 4250 ext. 281  / Fax: (847) 634 6820
ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com
www.rentokil-tps.com

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From: "Ben Saren" <ben at atomicusa dot com>
Subject: RE: SMTP access to authorized POP3 users
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:41:11 -0400

Im wondering the same thing. Although I might be confused. I have never
been able to get the secure authentication feature to work (CRAM MD5).



-----Original Message-----
From: Elliott Bujan [mailto:ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com] 
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:38 AM
To: Subscribers of WorldMail
Subject: SMTP access to authorized POP3 users


Is there somewhere in worldmail that I can configure access to the SMTP
server from 
authenticated POP3 users?

How could I do it?




Thank you, Elliott

==============================
Elliott Bujan
Help Desk / MIS
Rentokil, TPS - USA
(847) 634 4250 ext. 281  / Fax: (847) 634 6820 ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com
www.rentokil-tps.com

==============================


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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 12:33:10 -0700
From: William Hultman <whultman at cox dot net>
Subject: RE: SMTP access to authorized POP3 users

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What you are referring to can not be done in WorldMail -- POP before SMTP 
authentication (I don't know if that is the "official" name for it). As far 
as I know, WorldMail does not support any type of SMTP Authentication.

Also, Ben, you mentioned that you have never been able to get secure 
authentication to work. You need to keep in mind that the secure 
authentication only applies to POP3/IMAP authentication and has no bearing 
on SMTP. Also, I don't believe that the "Secure Authentication" setting in 
Outlook Express is CRAM-MD5. If I remember correctly it is some proprietary 
MS protocol...

Bill


At 10:41 AM 7/29/2002 -0400, Ben Saren wrote:
>Im wondering the same thing. Although I might be confused. I have never
>been able to get the secure authentication feature to work (CRAM MD5).
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Elliott Bujan [mailto:ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com]
>Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:38 AM
>To: Subscribers of WorldMail
>Subject: SMTP access to authorized POP3 users
>
>
>Is there somewhere in worldmail that I can configure access to the SMTP
>server from
>authenticated POP3 users?
>
>How could I do it?
>
>
>
>
>Thank you, Elliott
>
>==============================
>Elliott Bujan
>Help Desk / MIS
>Rentokil, TPS - USA
>(847) 634 4250 ext. 281  / Fax: (847) 634 6820 ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com
>www.rentokil-tps.com
>
>==============================
>
>
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William B. Hultman
<<mailto:whultman at cox dot net>whultman at cox dot net>
"I am not responsible for anything contained in this message.
It appears that my cats have learned to type."

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<html>
What you are referring to can not be done in WorldMail -- POP before SMTP
authentication (I don't know if that is the &quot;official&quot; name for
it). As far as I know, WorldMail does not support any type of SMTP
Authentication.<br><br>
Also, Ben, you mentioned that you have never been able to get secure
authentication to work. You need to keep in mind that the secure
authentication only applies to POP3/IMAP authentication and has no
bearing on SMTP. Also, I don't believe that the &quot;Secure
Authentication&quot; setting in Outlook Express is CRAM-MD5. If I
remember correctly it is some proprietary MS protocol...<br><br>
Bill<br><br>
<br>
At 10:41 AM 7/29/2002 -0400, Ben Saren wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Im wondering the same thing.
Although I might be confused. I have never<br>
been able to get the secure authentication feature to work (CRAM
MD5).<br><br>
<br><br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Elliott Bujan
[<a href="mailto:ebujan@rentokil-tps dot com" eudora="autourl">mailto:ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com</a>]
<br>
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:38 AM<br>
To: Subscribers of WorldMail<br>
Subject: SMTP access to authorized POP3 users<br><br>
<br>
Is there somewhere in worldmail that I can configure access to the
SMTP<br>
server from <br>
authenticated POP3 users?<br><br>
How could I do it?<br><br>
<br><br>
<br>
Thank you, Elliott<br><br>
===============================<br>
Elliott Bujan<br>
Help Desk / MIS<br>
Rentokil, TPS - USA<br>
(847) 634 4250 ext. 281&nbsp; / Fax: (847) 634 6820
ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com<br>
<a href="http://www.rentokil-tps.com/" eudora="autourl">www.rentokil-tps.com</a><br><br>
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From: "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 07:32:51 -0500
Subject: Worldmail resets user password

My users 'use' Outlook Express as their email client, versions 4 to 6, 
and every now and then, they call me to tell me that their program ask 
them to enter their username and password to get their messages.

the login info is supposed to be saved but somehow Worldmail resets 
or forgets the password.  I say Worldmail because once I change it, it 
works fine again.

Has anyone suffer from this?  I can't imagine having 2 or 3k users 
w/the same problem.



Thank you, Elliott

==============================
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Help Desk / MIS
Rentokil, TPS - USA
(847) 634 4250 ext. 281  / Fax: (847) 634 6820
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From: "Phil" <pd at hoptechno dot com>
Subject: Worldmail pegs cpu
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 12:27:13 -0500

Has anyone experienced what I occasionally (once a month?) do on an NT4
(PIII) server (which also runs sql7)?

Once in a while I notice the server's response slows down considerably.
Running task manager shows that smtpd.exe process is consuming all the cpu
time for no apparent reason.

QM Logs show nothing remarkable, relaying is blocked.

Stopping/starting WM server solves problem. No other smtp service is loaded.

Any thoughts? TIA


Philip K. Dunn
ezweddingplanner.com
ezeventplanner.com
familymedrecords.org
hoptechno.com


From: "Elliott Bujan" <ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com>
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 12:50:51 -0500
Subject: Re: Worldmail resets user password

this is exactly the symptom w/Outlook Express.  To fix it I just re-enter the password on 
the server.  I've never checke under current connections to see if there are any.

I feel better that I'm not the only one.

Thanks to all.

Elliott

On 19 Aug 2002 at 10:17, admin wrote:

> Elliott,
> 
> We use Eudora 5.1.1 as our email client, and we have the same symptom, but 
> only occasionally.  In our case, the user just has to re-enter their 
> password (if they remember it) since it's saved, and they're then able to 
> connect.  Worldmail remembers the username, just apparently forgets the 
> password.  If they don't remember the password, I reset it as you do, and 
> then they're fine.  I'm afraid I can't tell you what's causing it, but this 
> would seem to increase the probability that it's a problem with Worldmail 
> rather than your Outlook Express clients.
> 
> Pat
> 
> At 07:32 AM 8/19/02 -0500, you wrote:
> >My users 'use' Outlook Express as their email client, versions 4 to 6,
> >and every now and then, they call me to tell me that their program ask
> >them to enter their username and password to get their messages.
> >
> >the login info is supposed to be saved but somehow Worldmail resets
> >or forgets the password.  I say Worldmail because once I change it, it
> >works fine again.
> >
> >Has anyone suffer from this?  I can't imagine having 2 or 3k users
> >w/the same problem.
> >
> >
> >
> >Thank you, Elliott
> >
> >==============================
> >Elliott Bujan
> >Help Desk / MIS
> >Rentokil, TPS - USA
> >(847) 634 4250 ext. 281  / Fax: (847) 634 6820
> >ebujan at rentokil-tps dot com
> >www.rentokil-tps.com
> >
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No reply necessary

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Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 14:52:10 -0500
From: Brian McIntyre <bmcintyre at therisingstar dot com>
Subject: Re: Worldmail pegs cpu

Are you experiencing any DNS lookup failures?  Do you have an  AV system 
running on the system?  Just a couple of things I have run into the past 
year when I have had problems with SMTPd.

Brian McIntyre
Network Admin
Liberty Bank

At 12:27 PM 8/19/2002 -0500, Phil wrote:
>Has anyone experienced what I occasionally (once a month?) do on an NT4
>(PIII) server (which also runs sql7)?
>
>Once in a while I notice the server's response slows down considerably.
>Running task manager shows that smtpd.exe process is consuming all the cpu
>time for no apparent reason.
>
>QM Logs show nothing remarkable, relaying is blocked.
>
>Stopping/starting WM server solves problem. No other smtp service is loaded.
>
>Any thoughts? TIA
>
>
>Philip K. Dunn
>ezweddingplanner.com
>ezeventplanner.com
>familymedrecords.org
>hoptechno.com

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From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Worldmail pegs cpu
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 21:04:26 +0100

Plus - can you get in an watch what it is doing with ISOTRACE - it shows
more low level stuff than appears in the log files.
Enable Verbose on SMTP - you can practice when it is not using up all CPU!

Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian McIntyre [mailto:bmcintyre at therisingstar dot com]
> Sent: 19 August 2002 20:52
> To: Phil; Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: Re: Worldmail pegs cpu
>
>
> Are you experiencing any DNS lookup failures?  Do you have an  AV system
> running on the system?  Just a couple of things I have run into the past
> year when I have had problems with SMTPd.
>
> Brian McIntyre
> Network Admin
> Liberty Bank
>
> At 12:27 PM 8/19/2002 -0500, Phil wrote:
> >Has anyone experienced what I occasionally (once a month?) do on an NT4
> >(PIII) server (which also runs sql7)?
> >
> >Once in a while I notice the server's response slows down considerably.
> >Running task manager shows that smtpd.exe process is consuming
> all the cpu
> >time for no apparent reason.
> >
> >QM Logs show nothing remarkable, relaying is blocked.
> >
> >Stopping/starting WM server solves problem. No other smtp
> service is loaded.
> >
> >Any thoughts? TIA
> >
> >
> >Philip K. Dunn
> >ezweddingplanner.com
> >ezeventplanner.com
> >familymedrecords.org
> >hoptechno.com
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Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 16:14:38 -0400
From: Ron Hiner <rhiner at softstone dot net>
Subject: Eudora client question

I have a Eudora client question -- and I know that this is the wrong 
forum... I hope y'all don't mind.

Is it possible to put a JPG or a GIF image into a signature or stationery 
file?

It seems like a sensible thing to do, to put a company logo in there, but 
the menu option to "Insert Picture" is greyed out in my 5.1 paid 
version  of Eudora.

(Surprise surprise, the Eudora web site support is useless on this issue.)


Thanks!

Ron



Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 16:28:15 -0400
From: Steven Deon <sdeon at sterling-heights dot net>
Subject: Distribution Lists

If anyone is familiar with the distribution list function in Worldmail 2.0
I am having a problem in sending a large distribution list to the 
comcast.net domain
Their mailserver is detecting a large group of messages being sent to the 
server at the same
time and is viewing this mail as spam.
It will only accept a certain number of these E-mail's and just drops the 
rest of them with no notification to the sender (me)

Does anyone know if there is a way to send to the distribution list in 
burst of say 20 E-mails at a time?

I have pursued this problem with Comcast and Qualcomm and have yet to find 
a solution.

If not......Does anyone know a list serve software that they would feel 
confident to recommend.

Any help is greatly appreciated

Thanks,

Steven Deon
Network Administrator
City of Sterling Heights
40555 Utica Road
Sterling Heights, MI 48313
Telephone 586.446.2628
Facsimile 586.276.4000



From: "Paul Webster" <paul at spidersweb.freeserve.co dot uk>
Subject: RE: Distribution Lists
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 22:02:57 +0100

Pretty sure that Worldmail won't break them up into smaller sub-sets.
You could check to see if there is a "maximum number of recipients" under
the Restrictions tab for outbound mail routing to a custom domain (there is
on my mail server - but it is based on software that is quite a few releases
beyond Worldmail 2).
If it is there - then create a custom domain for comcast.net and set the
restriction.

Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven Deon [mailto:sdeon at sterling-heights dot net]
> Sent: 19 August 2002 21:28
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail
> Subject: Distribution Lists
>
>
> If anyone is familiar with the distribution list function in Worldmail 2.0
> I am having a problem in sending a large distribution list to the
> comcast.net domain
> Their mailserver is detecting a large group of messages being sent to the
> server at the same
> time and is viewing this mail as spam.
> It will only accept a certain number of these E-mail's and just drops the
> rest of them with no notification to the sender (me)
>
> Does anyone know if there is a way to send to the distribution list in
> burst of say 20 E-mails at a time?
>
> I have pursued this problem with Comcast and Qualcomm and have
> yet to find
> a solution.
>
> If not......Does anyone know a list serve software that they would feel
> confident to recommend.
>
> Any help is greatly appreciated
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steven Deon
> Network Administrator
> City of Sterling Heights
> 40555 Utica Road
> Sterling Heights, MI 48313
> Telephone 586.446.2628
> Facsimile 586.276.4000
>
>
>


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