The worldmail list archive ending on 17 Jul 1999


Topics covered in this issue include:

  1. WorldMail Test Message #1
       Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
       Fri, 13 Nov 1998 09:57:41 -0800
  2. WorldMail Test Message #2
       Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
       Fri, 13 Nov 1998 09:57:41 -0800
  3. Hello!
       Jeff Zelding <jzelding at image-impression dot com>
       Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:31:37 -0500
  4. Problems with WorldMail
       Curt Van Tassell <curtvt at aipl.arsusda dot gov>
       Fri, 29 Jan 1999 08:53:53 -0500
  5. LDAPTEMPLATE.CONF
       Ric Wall <humanist at aimnet dot com>
       Sat, 30 Jan 1999 18:00:07 -0800
  6. Updates to WM 2.0?
       Ric Wall <humanist at aimnet dot com>
       Tue, 02 Feb 1999 04:22:31 -0800
  7. Re: Updates to WM 2.0?
       Jeff Zelding <jzelding at image-impression dot com>
       Tue, 02 Feb 1999 09:46:37 -0500
  8. 2.0+
       Ric Wall <humanist at aimnet dot com>
       Tue, 02 Feb 1999 23:06:08 -0800
  9. Mail Servers of the World Unite!
       Ric Wall <humanist at aimnet dot com>
       Tue, 02 Feb 1999 23:23:04 -0800
 10. Re: 2.0+
       Jeff Zelding <jzelding at image-impression dot com>
       Wed, 03 Feb 1999 10:05:38 -0500
 11. Re: Mail Servers of the World Unite!
       Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
       Mon, 8 Feb 1999 20:55:00 -0800
 12. Re: 2.0+
       Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
       Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:26:09 -0800
 13. 2 Questions
       WMail  <wmail at gti dot net>
       Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:02:24 -0500 (EST)
 14. Re: 2 Questions
       Jeff Zelding <jzelding at image-impression dot com>
       Tue, 09 Feb 1999 16:51:01 -0500
 15. Re: 2 Questions
       Henry Avetisyan <henry at jps dot net>
       Tue, 09 Feb 1999 23:08:20 -0800
 16. Open Standard Servers
       Ric Wall <humanist at aimnet dot com>
       Thu, 11 Feb 1999 00:02:48 -0800
 17. Port 389
       Ric Wall <humanist at aimnet dot com>
       Thu, 11 Feb 1999 00:36:49 -0800
 18. Re: Open Standard Servers
       Jeff Zelding <jzelding at image-impression dot com>
       Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:44:14 -0500
 19. Worldmail Shared Address Book
       joev at garden dot net (Joe Varvarovsky)
       Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:30:08 -0500
 20. Re: Worldmail Shared Address Book
       Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
       Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:52:09 -0800
 21. Re: LDAPTEMPLATE.CONF
       Brad Schlaeppi <bschlaeppi at smm dot org>
       Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:17:30 -0600
 22. Security / Aliasing
       WMail  <wmail at apollo.gti dot net>
       Mon, 1 Mar 1999 11:15:31 -0500 (EST)
 23. WorldMail - Default Email Address ?
       Jeff Zelding <jzelding at image-impression dot com>
       Wed, 07 Apr 1999 17:06:45 -0400
 24. Attachment filtering on e-mail lists
       John Aldridge <john.aldridge at informatix.co dot uk>
       Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:35:47 +0100
 25. Re: Attachment filtering on e-mail lists
       Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
       Fri, 9 Apr 1999 18:05:58 -0700
 26. Problem Installing  WorldMail
       "Gregory J. Hickel" <ghickel at crowderscoggins dot com>
       Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:13:25 -0500
 27. Problem with lists!!
       Curt Van Tassell <curtvt at aipl.arsusda dot gov>
       Fri, 14 May 1999 13:42:17 -0400
 28. Re: Problem with lists!!
       squeezix at ithaca dot com (Garry W)
       Fri, 14 May 1999 19:15:36 GMT
 29. Re: Problem with lists!!
       "Gregory J. Hickel" <ghickel at crowderscoggins dot com>
       Fri, 28 May 1999 14:47:47 -0500
 30. Where to get license
       "Al Musella, DPM" <musella at virtualtrials dot com>
       Wed, 09 Jun 1999 11:28:10 -0400
 31. problem with SMTP taking up 100% CPU
       "Al Musella, DPM" <musella at virtualtrials dot com>
       Wed, 09 Jun 1999 11:35:48 -0400
 32. Re: Where to get license
       hiro <hiro_protagonist at dracona dot com>
       Wed, 09 Jun 1999 08:54:15 -0700
 33. Re: Where to get license
       "Al Musella, DPM" <musella at virtualtrials dot com>
       Wed, 09 Jun 1999 12:04:47 -0400
 34. Re: problem with SMTP taking up 100% CPU
       hiro <hiro_protagonist at dracona dot com>
       Wed, 09 Jun 1999 09:36:07 -0700
 35. Re: problem with SMTP taking up 100% CPU
       "Al Musella, DPM" <musella at virtualtrials dot com>
       Wed, 09 Jun 1999 14:05:40 -0400
 36. LDAP
       "Gary Hunter" <ghunter at ibm dot net>
       Fri, 11 Jun 1999 16:15:14 +1000
 37. Re: LDAP
       Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
       Thu, 1 Jul 1999 17:32:45 -0700
 38. Error codes (documentation?)
       Jim Sullivan <jsullivan at onecallmedical dot com>
       Fri, 09 Jul 1999 18:18:46 -0400
 39. Re: Error codes (documentation?)
       Henry Avetisyan <henry at jps dot net>
       Sat, 10 Jul 1999 09:43:57 -0700
 40. Error Message...
       "Gregory J. Hickel" <ghickel at crowderscoggins dot com>
       Mon, 12 Jul 1999 07:39:32 -0500
 41. Re: Error Message...
       Henry Avetisyan <henry at jps dot net>
       Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:07:16 -0700
 42. Copying WorldMail from one NT to another
       Mathew Lincoln <is at harrisrothenberg dot com>
       Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:23:29 -0400
 43. Re: Copying WorldMail from one NT to another
       "Gregory J. Hickel" <ghickel at crowderscoggins dot com>
       Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:45:33 -0500
 44. Worldmail user restriction problem
       Jim Sullivan <jsullivan at onecallmedical dot com>
       Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:28:57 -0400
 45. Re: Copying WorldMail from one NT to another
       Henry Avetisyan <henry at jps dot net>
       Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:00:54 -0700
 46. Re: Worldmail user restriction problem
       Henry Avetisyan <henry at jps dot net>
       Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:03:09 -0700
 47. Here is another interesting problem regarding the IMS.
       Jim Sullivan <jsullivan at onecallmedical dot com>
       Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:07:55 -0400
 48. Eudora 4.2 clients experience repeated mfc42.dll errors after
       "John K. Goodwin" <jgoodwin at imworth dot com>
       Thu, 15 Jul 1999 22:44:23 -0500
 49. Re: Eudora 4.2 clients experience repeated mfc42.dll errors
       "Al Musella, DPM" <musella at virtualtrials dot com>
       Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:10:59 -0400
 50. Re: Here is another interesting problem regarding the IMS.
       Henry Avetisyan <henry at jps dot net>
       Sat, 17 Jul 1999 11:07:19 -0700

Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 09:57:41 -0800
From: Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Subject: WorldMail Test Message #1

This is, indeed, a test.   Line 1.
This is, indeed, a test.   Line 2.
This is, indeed, a test.   Line 3.
This is, indeed, a test.   Line 4.
This is, indeed, a test.   Line 5.
This is, indeed, a test.   Line 6.

--
Normally, a witty signature would appear here. 
Randy at Pensive dot Org 

Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 09:57:41 -0800
From: Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Subject: WorldMail Test Message #2

This is, indeed, a test.   Line 1.
This is, indeed, a test.   Line 2.
This is, indeed, a test.   Line 3.
This is, indeed, a test.   Line 4.
This is, indeed, a test.   Line 5.
This is, indeed, a test.   Line 6.

--
Normally, a witty signature would appear here. 
Randy at Pensive dot Org 

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:31:37 -0500
From: Jeff Zelding <jzelding at image-impression dot com>
Subject: Hello!

Hello all,

It's great to have found this list, as support for WorldMail in the past
(in my experience) has been hard to come by, other than on usenet.

I'm running WorldMail 2.0, and have had a ton of fun with the aliasing
bug (where aliases to external internet email addresses are useless,
because attempts to email to those aliases from the internet are
rejected as unauthorized relay attempts).

In the end, the answer was "This will be fixed in the next version."

My question is, has anyone heard the scoop or rumors about a new version
or patch that fixes this problem?

Thanks,

-Jeff



Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 08:53:53 -0500
From: Curt Van Tassell <curtvt at aipl.arsusda dot gov>
Subject: Problems with WorldMail

I have set up a bunch of lists using WorldMail. After some initial problems
they seem to be working pretty well. 

First, my problem - WorldMail is not sending out my welcome message when
users enroll - they have to send a "info <list>" command to get that file
returned. I can't find anything to suggest that I need to do anything more
than provide the name of the file that should be returned - any help would
be appreciated!!

Second - some (basic?) questions... Can more than one response returned to
a subscription - I would like to send a couple of different files (the
typical help file and another message). What other robots are available for
WorldMail?
How can you add the headers to the outgoing message like was done with the
partial digest received from this list?

Thanks in advance for help with *any* of this.

Curt

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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 18:00:07 -0800
From: Ric Wall <humanist at aimnet dot com>
Subject: LDAPTEMPLATE.CONF

Hi to everyone,
I am trying to manipulate this file in my WorldMail 2.0 Server so that people who use a Web browser see something like this:

Organizational Unit:  abc.org

Entries in this organizational unit:

          Last Name      First Name     Mailbox
          ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
          Andrews          Carl J.             cja at abc dot org
          Brown              Robin W.        rwb at abc dot org

...  etc.

I've been able to isolate the issue to having to change the parameters of the "item searchact" command.  I'm running into a few problems.
1.  Does this command sort?  (by last name, for instance)
2.  cannot get it to display more than two fields
3.  The first name of a person, which the Internet Directory stores internally as the "cn" attribute, is not recognized by this command.

Any help or comments from your LDAP experience would be helpful.  The ultimate goal is simple:  any member of my organization should be able to find a current listing of e-mail addresses if they know the person's last name and first name.

Thanks again.
PS:
Unless I'm missing something obvious, I find the documentation for the LDAP server to be atrocious.  Have also looked in Books Online, but find it lacking.


Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 04:22:31 -0800
From: Ric Wall <humanist at aimnet dot com>
Subject: Updates to WM 2.0?

Does anyone know if Qualcomm has published any updates or patches to WorldMail 2.0?



Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 09:46:37 -0500
From: Jeff Zelding <jzelding at image-impression dot com>
Subject: Re: Updates to WM 2.0?

They've received the new engine from Isocore, however, they have not yet reached a beta
stage yet.   From what I've heard, I would suspect they will go beta within the next
month or two.

-Jeff

Ric Wall wrote:

> Does anyone know if Qualcomm has published any updates or patches to WorldMail 2.0?


Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 23:06:08 -0800
From: Ric Wall <humanist at aimnet dot com>
Subject: 2.0+

>>They've received the new engine from Isocore, however, they have not yet reached a beta
stage yet.   From what I've heard, I would suspect they will go beta within the next
month or two.

-Jeff
-------------------------
Thanks for the update.  I have seen several references to Isocore in WM's documentation.  What is their relationship, do you know?

Also have a question to everyone about the "protocol" in this mailing list.
Is hitting the  "reply"  button going to work?  Because it seems to me when I tried that it was replying only to the author, not to the group.  On the other hand, if I click the hot link I lose the ability to easily quote material.  What is the recommende
d approach?


Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 23:23:04 -0800
From: Ric Wall <humanist at aimnet dot com>
Subject: Mail Servers of the World Unite!

I've left messages such as these on several groups.  I was surprised to find few visible meeting grounds for the anti-Microsoft, or as I like to call myself "pro-open standard" e-mailers.

Right now I'm waging a furious battle in a community of about 500 users to prevent us from going to Microsoft Exchange.  98% of these folk are non-techies, and couldn't care less what the solution entails as long as it works and that they can learn it in 
less than 15 minutes.  Yet the forces of evil are waging the mickeysoft flag.

I have yet to find any usenets that deal with mail servers in general.  I browsed through comp.mail.sendmail   but I'm not quite sure I understand what they are talking about.

Any other suggestions that might serve as a complement to this one would be very welcome.  Of course we all know comp.mail.eudora  but in that context talk about mail servers seems out of place.
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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 10:05:38 -0500
From: Jeff Zelding <jzelding at image-impression dot com>
Subject: Re: 2.0+

Ric Wall wrote:

> Thanks for the update.  I have seen several references to Isocore in WM's documentation.  What is their relationship, do you know?
>

As far as I know, most of the WorldMail server was written by Isocore.   All Qualcomm does is put their own wrapper around the Isocore program and resell it as "WorldMail".

You'll never get that out of Eudora Support, though.   I found this out through trying to get support on the worldmail aliasing bug, when Qualcomm wouldn't give me any idea as to when the bug would be fixed - it was because they didn't know, and they woul
dn't
let people know that they don't code their own software!  Personally, I found worldmail support completely useless.

Thankfully, I made a great contact at Qualcomm in one of their development managers who actually gives me straight answers on things.

>
> Also have a question to everyone about the "protocol" in this mailing list.
> Is hitting the  "reply"  button going to work?  Because it seems to me when I tried that it was replying only to the author, not to the group.  On the other hand, if I click the hot link I lose the ability to easily quote material.  What is the recom
de
> d approach?

Just hit "reply to all" and you'll be fine (though the poster you're replying to will get 2 copies of the mail.   Oh well :)

-Jeff


Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 20:55:00 -0800
From: Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Subject: Re: Mail Servers of the World Unite!

> I've left messages such as these on several groups.  I was 
> surprised to find few visible meeting grounds for the 
> anti-Microsoft, or as I like to call myself "pro-open standard" 
> e-mailers.
>
> Right now I'm waging a furious battle in a community of about 500 
> users to prevent us from going to Microsoft Exchange.  98% of these 
> folk are non-techies, and couldn't care less what the solution 
> entails as long as it works and that they can learn it in
> less than 15 minutes.  Yet the forces of evil are waging the mickeysoft flag.
>
> I have yet to find any usenets that deal with mail servers in 
> general.  I browsed through comp.mail.sendmail   but I'm not quite 
> sure I understand what they are talking about.
> Any other suggestions that might serve as a complement to this one 
> would be very welcome.  Of course we all know comp.mail.eudora  but 
> in that context talk about mail servers seems out of place.

I believe the Eudora web site has some white papers which discuss 
open-standards-based servers versus proprietary ones (which may 
include standards gateways).  I know I've seen some independent 
analysis as well.  Generally, servers which are Internet standards at 
their core are easier to set up and keep running, and scale better. 
It is usually easier to migrate from one to another, if you find one 
you like better.  Since other systems have to translate to and from 
Internet standards, chances for corruption are much higher.  I've 
seen a lot of problems with servers which rewrite messages into a 
native format, then try to regenerate the standard form.  They 
usually make a right mess, especially when a message uses one of the 
newer elements of a standard.

If your people want a solution they can just install and run, my 
advice would be to try out demo versions of a few of the 
standards-based servers and see which ones are easiest.  Besides 
WorldMail, there are lots of other ones, such as Post.Office from 
Software.Com, pmdf from Innosoft, etc.

--
Randall  Gellens                                     Randy at Pensive dot Org
---------------------- (randomly-selected tag) ---------------------
Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can
change the world.  Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.
                                                     --Margaret Meed

Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:26:09 -0800
From: Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Subject: Re: 2.0+

> As far as I know, most of the WorldMail server was written by 
> Isocore.   All Qualcomm does is put their own wrapper around the 
> Isocore program and resell it as "WorldMail".

Isocor makes the core engines (SMTP, POP, IMAP) included in 
WorldMail.  Qualcomm adds its own LDAP server which uses the 
Sleepycat database for significantly increased speed, and a mini-ACAP 
server which supports auto-configuration by Eudora clients (both 
Light and Pro, Mac and Windows).  This last feature is pretty neat: 
you create a new account for a user in WorldMail, install Eudora on 
his or her desktop, click on "auto configure", enter a usercode and 
password, and the user is set up and ready to go.  Eudora fetches 
(using ACAP) a long list of settings, customized for that user.

> You'll never get that out of Eudora Support, though. I found this 
> out through trying to get support on the worldmail aliasing bug, 
> when Qualcomm wouldn't give me any idea as to when the bug would be 
> fixed - it was because they didn't know, and they wouldn't let 
> people know that they don't code their own software! Personally, I 
> found worldmail support completely useless.

I don't think it is any secret that the core WorldMail engines are 
licensed from Isocor.  There are a press releases about it on 
Qualcomm's web site.

I think there are some legal or other issues to be resolved regarding 
the update, but I believe they are being worked on.  In the meantime, 
if you want, you can try going to Isocor's web site 
<http://www.isocor.com> and downloading the latest N-Plex update, and 
replacing the .EXE files in WorldMail with the ones you downloaded. 
This isn't supported, so if you do this, be sure to back everything 
up, and only rename the WorldMail files, don't delete them.  Also, 
I'd try one file at a time.  If anything goes wrong, fall back.  Be 
sure to stop the service before replacing its file.  You'll probably 
have to leave the SMTP file alone. 

--
Randall  Gellens                                     Randy at Pensive dot Org
---------------------- (randomly-selected tag) ---------------------
To iterate is human; to recurse, divine.  --Robert Heller

From: WMail  <wmail at gti dot net>
Subject: 2 Questions
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:02:24 -0500 (EST)

Hi.  I have worldmail installed in 4 different locations and it is working  
quite well.  2 questions:

#1

Is there any way to mass mail all the users on a particular Wolrdmail server
easily? I know there is list management but it looks like you have to add
each user manually which would be a pain (400 users).  

I.E. The server is in a company and the company wants to broadcast a message
to all of its employees.


#2

Personal Account Manager - The java applet that allows users to change their
password, etc.  Has anyone ever tried to use this through a firewall?  I
tried opening up port 8888 on the firewall (both ways) and no dice.  The
java applet loads but when you hit 'submit' to send your username and pw it
returns "unknown error".


Thanks in advance,

John Harper
wmail at gti dot net



Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 16:51:01 -0500
From: Jeff Zelding <jzelding at image-impression dot com>
Subject: Re: 2 Questions

> #2
>
> Personal Account Manager - The java applet that allows users to change their
> password, etc.  Has anyone ever tried to use this through a firewall?  I
> tried opening up port 8888 on the firewall (both ways) and no dice.  The
> java applet loads but when you hit 'submit' to send your username and pw it
> returns "unknown error".
>

This is definately possible.   You need to open a second port - but I don't know
off hand which port that is.   If memory serves me correctly, you can try
unblocking 4299 and 389 as well.  Eudora support should be able to tell you, if
it's not already in the online manuals.

-Jeff


Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 23:08:20 -0800
From: Henry Avetisyan <henry at jps dot net>
Subject: Re: 2 Questions

For PAM to work you also need to open port 4201 which is the management port for the
Message Store Server. Port 4200 is the management port for the Mail Server.

Henry

Jeff Zelding wrote:

> > #2
> >
> > Personal Account Manager - The java applet that allows users to change their
> > password, etc.  Has anyone ever tried to use this through a firewall?  I
> > tried opening up port 8888 on the firewall (both ways) and no dice.  The
> > java applet loads but when you hit 'submit' to send your username and pw it
> > returns "unknown error".
> >
>
> This is definately possible.   You need to open a second port - but I don't know
> off hand which port that is.   If memory serves me correctly, you can try
> unblocking 4299 and 389 as well.  Eudora support should be able to tell you, if
> it's not already in the online manuals.
>
> -Jeff


Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 00:02:48 -0800
From: Ric Wall <humanist at aimnet dot com>
Subject: Open Standard Servers

Thank you for your information.  I will search for the white papers at eudora.com.

I would also like to ask, what is the known bug with aliases in World Mail?  I tried to find references at their mail site but was not successful.

-Regards to all

Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 00:36:49 -0800
From: Ric Wall <humanist at aimnet dot com>
Subject: Port 389

>>This is definately possible.   You need to open a second port - but I don't know
off hand which port that is.   If memory serves me correctly, you can try
unblocking 4299 and 389 as well.  Eudora support should be able to tell you, if
it's not already in the online manuals.
>>-Jeff

I know Port 389 is the default for LDAP.  I've been playing with a freeware LDAP browser (Wax500) and it uses 389 to retrieve information from the directory.  I understand Eudora Pro 4.x also uses this service, although I do not know this from personal ex
perience.
By the way, if you have the online documentation on an NT 4.0 Server,  be careful when trying to print the online docs.  It has already crashed two different servers for me.  Blue screen and everything.  I thought in NT this was not supposed to happen ("O
S runs on protected memory, applications can't crash it," yeah, yeah).
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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:44:14 -0500
From: Jeff Zelding <jzelding at image-impression dot com>
Subject: Re: Open Standard Servers

The bug is that when you create an alias that points to an email address that is somewhere on the internet (not on your local network), and then
someone out on the internet emails that alias, they get their message bounced back to them with an error stating that relaying is not allowed.
WorldMail 2.0 incorrectly rejects the email as a relay attempt.

The work around is to turn off relay blocking for the destination network of the aliased email (which compromises security and allows anyone to spam
that network), or have your alias forward to a mailing list with the destination address being the only member of the mailing list (which is messy and
if you have lots of aliases, is a pain to administrate), or to use the "copy-to" fuctionality on an actual mailbox (not an alias, so it uses up
licenses).

-Jeff

Ric Wall wrote:

> Thank you for your information.  I will search for the white papers at eudora.com.
>
> I would also like to ask, what is the known bug with aliases in World Mail?  I tried to find references at their mail site but was not successful.
>
> -Regards to all


Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:30:08 -0500
From: joev at garden dot net (Joe Varvarovsky)
Subject: Worldmail Shared Address Book

Our network person quit recently and I am left to administer the
Worldmail Server and the local Eudora users.  The biggest problem I am
having is trying to figure out how to update the shared addressbook on
the server.  Each user can see the addressbook on the server since the
ExtraNicknameDirs= command is in the Eudora.ini file on each PC.

But, when I create new users, how does that address book get updated?
There is a .toc file in the same directory and I found if I delete that
it updates automatically by looking at the address book file.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!


Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:52:09 -0800
From: Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Subject: Re: Worldmail Shared Address Book

At 6:30 PM -0500 2/11/99, Joe Varvarovsky wrote:

> Our network person quit recently and I am left to administer the
> Worldmail Server and the local Eudora users.  The biggest problem I am
> having is trying to figure out how to update the shared addressbook on
> the server.  Each user can see the addressbook on the server since the
> ExtraNicknameDirs= command is in the Eudora.ini file on each PC.
>
> But, when I create new users, how does that address book get updated?
> There is a .toc file in the same directory and I found if I delete that
> it updates automatically by looking at the address book file.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!

I am not aware of any standard way to automatically update such a 
shared address book.  Note that you may not really need it if you use 
Eudora, since WorldMail supports Ph and LDAP, and all versions of 
Eudora use Ph, and new versions also use LDAP.

If you do want to update it, you could probably whip up a batch file 
to run the WorldMail bulk load utility to extract a list of users 
into a file, and then massage it into addressbook format. 
Personally, I'd just use Ph.

--
Randall Gellens
randy at pensive dot org
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:17:30 -0600
From: Brad Schlaeppi <bschlaeppi at smm dot org>
Subject: Re: LDAPTEMPLATE.CONF

I ran into to same problem trying the "item searchact" command but found
another direction that achieved essentially the desired results.  I
haven't yet got it to work on the root page but with one extra click on
the Telephone/Email list button you can display more fields.  They seem
to always be sorted by the "sn" field.

Modify the "item linkact" line in the Organizational Unit Template
section to something like:
item linkact "Telephone / E-mail List" ""
"?sn,cn,telephonenumber,$btable,valsonly?"
This controls the fields displayed.

You then need to make an Base DN entry in the WorldMail Web Gateway
config like:
ou=abc.org,o«C Org,c=US
This gets you to the mail list quicker.

If you look at the URL displayed after you click the telephone button,
it will give you clues on variations.  I tried adding these ideas to the
Base DN and LDAP.CONF lines but didn't get much further.

The LDAP/Ph likes to crash a lot so I rather have the users not know it
is there.




Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 11:15:31 -0500 (EST)
From: WMail  <wmail at apollo.gti dot net>
Subject: Security / Aliasing

When I add IP's to the security for Message Relaying - anyone with an
alias brings back this message:

... while talking to xyz.org.:
>>> RCPT To:<mcmanus at xyz dot org>
<<< 553 RCPT TO:<mcmanus at xyz dot org> Relaying not allowed
550 mcmanus at xyz.org. dot . User unknown


I turn off security for Message Relaying (by deleting all IP's) everything
works fine.

I thought if I added my own ip on my desktop (outside of their network) it
would work, but did not.

Thanks,

John


Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 17:06:45 -0400
From: Jeff Zelding <jzelding at image-impression dot com>
Subject: WorldMail - Default Email Address ?

Hello all,

I'm curious if anyone knows how to configure a domain to have a default
mail address.   Now, I know you can configure a domain with an address
which all "undeliverable" messages are sent to, however, using this
method changes the subject and adds a tacky message to the top of the
email.

What I would like to do is have a default address where mail is sent,
without any special modifications to that email - in other words, any
message that is sent to an address that doesn't exist is forwarded on to
this default message in the same method that an alias would forward a
message on.

Anyone know if this is possible?

-Jeff

--
Jeff Zelding             Email: jzelding at image-impression dot com
D&IS Manager             Phone: (416) 979-0050 x2006
Image Impression Inc.    Web:   www.image-impression.com



Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:35:47 +0100
From: John Aldridge <john.aldridge at informatix.co dot uk>
Subject: Attachment filtering on e-mail lists

We produce software products.  We have an e-mail list to which customers
send requests for support.  This list includes a dozen or so people who
want to see any messages.

However, customers also often need to send attached data, sometimes tens of
MB in size.  It would be nice to siphon this off before forwarding the
remainder of the message to the list recipients (otherwise disk space
disappears very quickly).

The sort of solution I was envisaging was to have the public support
mailing list point to two internal addresses:  a shared folder which would
receive the whole message, including attachments; and a second distribution
list which would contain the people who want to read just the text of the
message.

Now, if there was a way of stripping attachments when sending to the second
distribution list, I think I'd be home dry; but I can't see a way to do this.

If anyone has any ideas, I'd be grateful.
-- 
Cheers,
John

Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 18:05:58 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: Attachment filtering on e-mail lists

At 4:35 PM +0100 4/8/99, John Aldridge wrote:

>We produce software products.  We have an e-mail list to which customers
>send requests for support.  This list includes a dozen or so people who
>want to see any messages.

My suggestion would be to use an IMAP shared folder.  Users can then 
configure their clients to not download attachments.
--
Randall Gellens
rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com
Opinions are personal;     facts are suspect;     I speak for myself only

From: "Gregory J. Hickel" <ghickel at crowderscoggins dot com>
Subject: Problem Installing  WorldMail
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:13:25 -0500

Our office has been running WorldMail for sometime now but we are migrating
to a new server.  I found some instructions in the manual about how to
export/import the settings.  The problem I am running into is the services
will not start when I reboot the computer after installation.  We have had a
number of problems transfering things to our new server so WorldMail has
been installed and re-installed several times (didn't seem to work any of
the times though).  There are error messages in the Event Viewer that say
the services failed to respond within a given time period.  There are also
messages that say the services failed the license check.  Also, if it makes
a difference, for reasons outside of WorldMail the new server will have the
same name on our network as the old server (i.e. serve4).  Any thoughts as
to how to solve this problem...WorldMail is the last remaining software that
I need to transfer to our new server.  Any help will certainly be
appreciated!

Greg Hickel
ghickel at crowderscoggins dot com


Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:42:17 -0400
From: Curt Van Tassell <curtvt at aipl.arsusda dot gov>
Subject: Problem with lists!!

I am trying to use the list function and I am getting an error that says: 
mailing list expansion prohibited
Does anyone have any idea what causes this or more importantly how to fix
it???
Thanks in advance.
Curt

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
Curt Van Tassell                  
Research Geneticist
E-Mail: curtvt at aipl.arsusda dot gov
Animal Improvement Programs Lab. & Gene Evaluation and Mapping Lab.
Building 263, BARC-East           Tel: (301) 504-9271, FAX: (301) 504-8092
Beltsville, MD 20705-2350         http://chuck.agsci.colostate.edu/cvantass

Some luck lies in not getting what you thought you wanted but getting
what you have, which once you have it you may be smart enough to see is
what you would have wanted had you known.
                                         - Garrison Keillor
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\


From: squeezix at ithaca dot com (Garry W)
Subject: Re: Problem with lists!!
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 19:15:36 GMT

Curt wrote:
>I am trying to use the list function and I am getting an error that =
says: 
>mailing list expansion prohibited
>Does anyone have any idea what causes this or more importantly how to =
fix
>it???

If you're trying to list off all the members of this list, I should hope =
that
that feature's been disabled!

Seriously - browsing the mail list membership is one of the ways that
spammers can quickly harvest good addresses. Not good.

Garry

From: "Gregory J. Hickel" <ghickel at crowderscoggins dot com>
Subject: Re: Problem with lists!!
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 14:47:47 -0500

It sounds to me like you are attempting to send a message to the list from
an e-mail address that is not a subscriber to the list.  I believe this is a
setting that can be turned off though I don't remember exactly how.

Greg Hickel
ghickel at crowderscoggins dot com

----- Original Message -----
From: Curt Van Tassell <curtvt at aipl.arsusda dot gov>
To: Subscribers of WorldMail <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
Sent: Friday, May 14, 1999 12:42 PM
Subject: Problem with lists!!


> I am trying to use the list function and I am getting an error that says:
> mailing list expansion prohibited
> Does anyone have any idea what causes this or more importantly how to fix
> it???
> Thanks in advance.
> Curt
>
> /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
> Curt Van Tassell
> Research Geneticist
> E-Mail: curtvt at aipl.arsusda dot gov
> Animal Improvement Programs Lab. & Gene Evaluation and Mapping Lab.
> Building 263, BARC-East           Tel: (301) 504-9271, FAX: (301) 504-8092
> Beltsville, MD 20705-2350
http://chuck.agsci.colostate.edu/cvantass
>
> Some luck lies in not getting what you thought you wanted but getting
> what you have, which once you have it you may be smart enough to see is
> what you would have wanted had you known.
>                                          - Garrison Keillor
> /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
>


Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 11:28:10 -0400
From: "Al Musella, DPM" <musella at virtualtrials dot com>
Subject: Where to get license

   I need to find a source to get a 10 mailbox add-on (for eudora worldmail 
2.0) license electronically delivered immediately.
  The Eudora website store can't email you the key - they have to send it 
to you - which would take a week.
  The electronic download software places that I tried either don't have 
the 10 user add-ons, or the ones who have it also have to send it. Seems 
crazy to pay for shipping and wait a week to receive 2 numbers.
  Anyone know of a website where I can buy it and download it now?

Also - some sites talk about different types of licenses for the worldmail 
server. The eudora site doesn't mention them.
Anyone know what they are talking about?
I have the original 10 mailboxes that came with eudora, then I purchased a 
15 user add on.
  Now i can't even see any mention of 15 user add ons, and the 10 user add 
on is impossible to find!

Al Musella
musella foundation for brain tumor research and information
virtualtrials.org




Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 11:35:48 -0400
From: "Al Musella, DPM" <musella at virtualtrials dot com>
Subject: problem with SMTP taking up 100% CPU

  I have been having a problem where once in a while - maybe once a week or 
so - my mail server CPU utilization goes to 100%, and the task manager 
shows the SMTPD.exe  is taking up 100% CPU.  The mail server then stops 
transferring mail. Nobody can send or receive mail.  When I try to stop the 
SMTPD service, I get an error message that it can't be stopped. I reboot 
the system, and things go back to normal.

   I only have a small load on the server. No mailing lists, 25 users.  The 
only other service on the server is a reporting tool, webtrends.
My task manager now says system idle time is 380 hours,     and SMTPD.exe 
only used 3 minutes. (Webtrends used 20 minutes). When the problem pops up, 
usually in the middle of the night or on a weekend, and I check, the SMTPD 
service takes up many hours of time, and when I check the logs, it is NOT 
sending out tons of mail.  The mail queue usually has less than 2 messages 
any time I check.


Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 08:54:15 -0700
From: hiro <hiro_protagonist at dracona dot com>
Subject: Re: Where to get license

When we got our 5000 user lincence for our isp they were able to upgrade
our package over the phone.
It may take an hour or two on the customer support line. Quallcomm is the
only place I know of to purchase any kind of licencing.

For a small mail system I would recommend (now that I've had some
experience with worldmail) Linux Redhat 6.0 operating system, it has
sendmail built in. It will operate as many mail accounts as the server can
handle, and there are no licencing fees because sendmail is covered by the
GNU free source licenceing agreement.

Hiro Protagonist
Network Administrator
Draggin' Bytes Cafe`
Livermore, CA

At 11:28 AM 06/09/99 -0400, Al Musella, DPM wrote:
>   I need to find a source to get a 10 mailbox add-on (for eudora worldmail 
>2.0) license electronically delivered immediately.
>  The Eudora website store can't email you the key - they have to send it 
>to you - which would take a week.
>  The electronic download software places that I tried either don't have 
>the 10 user add-ons, or the ones who have it also have to send it. Seems 
>crazy to pay for shipping and wait a week to receive 2 numbers.
>  Anyone know of a website where I can buy it and download it now?
>
>Also - some sites talk about different types of licenses for the worldmail 
>server. The eudora site doesn't mention them.
>Anyone know what they are talking about?
>I have the original 10 mailboxes that came with eudora, then I purchased a 
>15 user add on.
>  Now i can't even see any mention of 15 user add ons, and the 10 user add 
>on is impossible to find!
>
>Al Musella
>musella foundation for brain tumor research and information
>virtualtrials.org
> 

Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 12:04:47 -0400
From: "Al Musella, DPM" <musella at virtualtrials dot com>
Subject: Re: Where to get license

   Do you ever get the problem I mention, where the SMTPD just takes over 
the CPU and stops pumping out mail?
How long does your mail server go between reboots?
Al



>When we got our 5000 user lincence for our isp they were able to upgrade
>our package over the phone.
>It may take an hour or two on the customer support line. Quallcomm is the
>only place I know of to purchase any kind of licencing.
>
>For a small mail system I would recommend (now that I've had some
>experience with worldmail) Linux Redhat 6.0 operating system, it has
>sendmail built in. It will operate as many mail accounts as the server can
>handle, and there are no licencing fees because sendmail is covered by the
>GNU free source licenceing agreement.



Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 09:36:07 -0700
From: hiro <hiro_protagonist at dracona dot com>
Subject: Re: problem with SMTP taking up 100% CPU

I've experienced this problem too. IMHO it seems to be a problem within NT
itself. Microsoft recomends that NT 4.0 be rebooted once a week. Because NT
uses a registry to keep track of programs and processes the registry grows
while the server is operating, after the registry reaches about 15 Megs NT
starts to "loose it's mind". We here are planning to upgrade our server
from a single processor to a dual processor configuration, hopefuly we will
encounter the 100% cpu bug less frequently by increasing processor headspace.

The number of processes running seem to have little effect as to when the
bug pops up. Our P200, 64 meg server is currently running 46 mail accounts,
7 active lists, web services, ftp services, Macintosh file services, print
server for the domain, and domain access control.

When you installed your server did you install it as a "Primary Domain
Controller" or as a "Standalone Server" because there seems to be a big
diffrence in the stability of domain controller and standalone.

Thats all I could think of off the top of my head this morning.

Hiro Protagonist
Network Administrator
Draggin` Bytes Cafe`
Livermore, CA

 
At 11:35 AM 06/09/99 -0400, Al Musella, DPM wrote:
>  I have been having a problem where once in a while - maybe once a week or 
>so - my mail server CPU utilization goes to 100%, and the task manager 
>shows the SMTPD.exe  is taking up 100% CPU.  The mail server then stops 
>transferring mail. Nobody can send or receive mail.  When I try to stop the 
>SMTPD service, I get an error message that it can't be stopped. I reboot 
>the system, and things go back to normal.
>
>   I only have a small load on the server. No mailing lists, 25 users.  The 
>only other service on the server is a reporting tool, webtrends.
>My task manager now says system idle time is 380 hours,     and SMTPD.exe 
>only used 3 minutes. (Webtrends used 20 minutes). When the problem pops up, 
>usually in the middle of the night or on a weekend, and I check, the SMTPD 
>service takes up many hours of time, and when I check the logs, it is NOT 
>sending out tons of mail.  The mail queue usually has less than 2 messages 
>any time I check.
> 

Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 14:05:40 -0400
From: "Al Musella, DPM" <musella at virtualtrials dot com>
Subject: Re: problem with SMTP taking up 100% CPU

  You may be right.
     I have been going about a month between reboots. NT seems to slow down 
little by little then eventually gets so sluggish that I have to reboot. 
Then it comes back to life for a few weeks.  I have it as a standalone 
server, service pack 5 is installed.


>I've experienced this problem too. IMHO it seems to be a problem within NT
>itself. Microsoft recomends that NT 4.0 be rebooted once a week. Because NT
>uses a registry to keep track of programs and processes the registry grows
>while the server is operating, after the registry reaches about 15 Megs NT
>starts to "loose it's mind". We here are planning to upgrade our server
>from a single processor to a dual processor configuration, hopefuly we will
>encounter the 100% cpu bug less frequently by increasing processor headspace.
>
>The number of processes running seem to have little effect as to when the
>bug pops up. Our P200, 64 meg server is currently running 46 mail accounts,
>7 active lists, web services, ftp services, Macintosh file services, print
>server for the domain, and domain access control.
>
>When you installed your server did you install it as a "Primary Domain
>Controller" or as a "Standalone Server" because there seems to be a big
>diffrence in the stability of domain controller and standalone.
>
>Thats all I could think of off the top of my head this morning.
>
>Hiro Protagonist
>Network Administrator
>Draggin` Bytes Cafe`
>Livermore, CA
>
>
>At 11:35 AM 06/09/99 -0400, Al Musella, DPM wrote:
> >  I have been having a problem where once in a while - maybe once a week or
> >so - my mail server CPU utilization goes to 100%, and the task manager
> >shows the SMTPD.exe  is taking up 100% CPU.  The mail server then stops
> >transferring mail. Nobody can send or receive mail.  When I try to stop the
> >SMTPD service, I get an error message that it can't be stopped. I reboot
> >the system, and things go back to normal.
> >
> >   I only have a small load on the server. No mailing lists, 25 users.  The
> >only other service on the server is a reporting tool, webtrends.
> >My task manager now says system idle time is 380 hours,     and SMTPD.exe
> >only used 3 minutes. (Webtrends used 20 minutes). When the problem pops up,
> >usually in the middle of the night or on a weekend, and I check, the SMTPD
> >service takes up many hours of time, and when I check the logs, it is NOT
> >sending out tons of mail.  The mail queue usually has less than 2 messages
> >any time I check.
> >



From: "Gary Hunter" <ghunter at ibm dot net>
Subject: LDAP
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 16:15:14 +1000

I am having commands difficulty using the dos based ldap maintenance
commands supplied with worldmail such as ldapdel.  I have tried various
forms of input and have yet to succeed. Moving on to ldapsrch I found that
none of myentries can be found.
The ldap server is working and can be seen from worldmail manager.  I really
need to contact someone who has seen ldapdel etc work
regards
Gary Hunter
Sydney Australia
ghunter at ibm dot net


Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 17:32:45 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com>
Subject: Re: LDAP

At 4:15 PM +1000 6/11/99, Gary Hunter wrote:

>I am having commands difficulty using the dos based ldap maintenance
>commands supplied with worldmail such as ldapdel.  I have tried various
>forms of input and have yet to succeed. Moving on to ldapsrch I found that
>none of myentries can be found.
>The ldap server is working and can be seen from worldmail manager.  I really
>need to contact someone who has seen ldapdel etc work
>regards
>Gary Hunter
>Sydney Australia
>ghunter at ibm dot net

Try adding -b "" in front of your ldapsrch input.  This sets the 
basedn to null.
--
Randall Gellens
rg=public.1 at worldmail1.qualcomm dot com
Opinions are personal;     facts are suspect;     I speak for myself only

Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 18:18:46 -0400
From: Jim Sullivan <jsullivan at onecallmedical dot com>
Subject: Error codes (documentation?)

Hello all...
I am trying to use the bulkload utility "nibl.exe", but I am getting
several errors that I cannot debug.  Does anyone know where there is
documentation for the error codes generated by the bulkload utility?
Example errors listed in the ismtpims.log are as follows:

Command << MAILGROUP CREATE Groupxyz "" >> Failed: ERROR 129 cannot create
shared mailbox directory 'Groupxyz' error=2

and...

Command << USER onecallmedical.com ADD jdoe
"MAILBOX=g:\worldmail\SMTP\MailBoxs\jdoe@onecallmedical dot com" DISKQUOTA=5000
ALLOWED=ANY SERVER=mail.onecallmedical.com "CN=John Doe" "SURNAME=Doe"
OPTIONS=7 >> Failed: ERROR 129 cannot create user mailbox directory
'g:\worldmail\SMTP\MailBoxs\jdoe at onecallmedical dot com' error=5

Can someone point me in the right direction?




Jim Sullivan
Network Administrator

One Call Medical, Inc.
20 Waterview Boulevard
P.O. Box 614
Parsippany, New Jersey 07054-0614
PH: (973)316-3723
Fax:(973)257-0044

Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 09:43:57 -0700
From: Henry Avetisyan <henry at jps dot net>
Subject: Re: Error codes (documentation?)

NIBL doesn't generate many errors at all. It just reports the errors
that the Mail Server reported. So, for example, if you had the Mail
Server Trace program running, you would have seen the same errors
reported by the Mail Servers.

As far errors reported by the Mail Server, they should be pretty
descriptive. The error codes returned at the end of the message are
standard win32 error codes. For example, in the user add command, the
mail server tried to create the directory
"g:\worldmail\SMTP\MailBoxs\jdoe@onecallmedical dot com" and the operating
system returned an error 5 - ERROR_ACCESS_DENIED. So you need to verify
that the directory is valid and the mail server is able to create that
directory. You need to remember, that the mail server is running with a
system account privileges.

Henry

Jim Sullivan wrote:
> 
> Hello all...
> I am trying to use the bulkload utility "nibl.exe", but I am getting
> several errors that I cannot debug.  Does anyone know where there is
> documentation for the error codes generated by the bulkload utility?
> Example errors listed in the ismtpims.log are as follows:
> 
> Command << MAILGROUP CREATE Groupxyz "" >> Failed: ERROR 129 cannot create
> shared mailbox directory 'Groupxyz' error=2
> 
> and...
> 
> Command << USER onecallmedical.com ADD jdoe
> "MAILBOX=g:\worldmail\SMTP\MailBoxs\jdoe@onecallmedical dot com" DISKQUOTA=5000
> ALLOWED=ANY SERVER=mail.onecallmedical.com "CN=John Doe" "SURNAME=Doe"
> OPTIONS=7 >> Failed: ERROR 129 cannot create user mailbox directory
> 'g:\worldmail\SMTP\MailBoxs\jdoe at onecallmedical dot com' error=5
> 
> Can someone point me in the right direction?
> 
> Jim Sullivan
> Network Administrator
> 
> One Call Medical, Inc.
> 20 Waterview Boulevard
> P.O. Box 614
> Parsippany, New Jersey 07054-0614
> PH: (973)316-3723
> Fax:(973)257-0044

From: "Gregory J. Hickel" <ghickel at crowderscoggins dot com>
Subject: Error Message...
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 07:39:32 -0500

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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When I review the Application Log through the Event Viewer I find the =
following message each time I restart the computer running WorldMail.  =
It does not seem to cause any problems so I'm hesitant to "fix what =
ain't broke".  Regardless, I wanted to send it to the list to see if it =
is a sign of some lurking problem.  Thanks for any advice!

The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( ISOCOR.IDS ) could not be =
found. It contains the following insertion string(s): ISOCOR.IDS error: =
0, Eudora Directory Service Started.


Greg Hickel
ghickel at crowderscoggins dot com


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http-equiv=Content-Type>
<META content="MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=GENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>When I review the Application Log =
through the Event 
Viewer I find the following message each time I restart the computer =
running 
WorldMail.  It does not seem to cause any problems so I'm hesitant =
to "fix 
what ain't broke".  Regardless, I wanted to send it to the list to =
see if 
it is a sign of some lurking problem.  Thanks for any =
advice!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in =
Source ( 
ISOCOR.IDS ) could not be found. It contains the following insertion =
string(s): 
ISOCOR.IDS error: 0, Eudora Directory Service Started.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Greg Hickel</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A 
href="mailto:ghickel at crowderscoggins dot com">ghickel@crowderscoggins dot com</=
A></FONT></DIV>
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:07:16 -0700
From: Henry Avetisyan <henry at jps dot net>
Subject: Re: Error Message...

It's definitely not broken. It actually is a success/information message
which indicates that your Directory Service has successfully started,
except the program itself doesn't have the correct support to add
messages to the Event Viewer correctly, and that's why you see the error
about the missing description ID.

Henry 

> "Gregory J. Hickel" wrote:
> 
> When I review the Application Log through the Event Viewer I find the
> following message each time I restart the computer running WorldMail.
> It does not seem to cause any problems so I'm hesitant to "fix what
> ain't broke".  Regardless, I wanted to send it to the list to see if
> it is a sign of some lurking problem.  Thanks for any advice!
> 
> The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( ISOCOR.IDS ) could not
> be found. It contains the following insertion string(s): ISOCOR.IDS
> error: 0, Eudora Directory Service Started.
> 
> 
> Greg Hickel
> ghickel at crowderscoggins dot com
>

Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:23:29 -0400
From: Mathew Lincoln <is at harrisrothenberg dot com>
Subject: Copying WorldMail from one NT to another

My company is trying to set up a new NT Workstation computer as the email 
server. We have WorldMail running on an NT Server within our network (it 
was dialing an outside ISP to get the email), and would like to copy all 
the mailboxes and other settings from the NT Server to our new computer. We 
installed WorldMail on the new one. Then we tried copying all the necessary 
folders, and everything in the Registry that looked like it had something 
to do with WorldMail. We found that WorldMail will not start up when we 
start the computer. We have to start everything manually in order to see 
the mailboxes, etc.

We thought it had something to do with the error that Gregory Hickel 
described, but Henry Avetisyan's message makes that seem unlikely.

Any suggestions would be most appreciated.


Mathew Lincoln
Harris, Rothenberg Intl.


From: "Gregory J. Hickel" <ghickel at crowderscoggins dot com>
Subject: Re: Copying WorldMail from one NT to another
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:45:33 -0500

 Take a look in the documentation at the NIBL utility.  It provides a method
to copy all of the settings from one computer to another.  When I moved our
installation recently, I ran into a problem entering the serial numbers.  I
was just entering the number for the 25 mailbox license we purchased.  It is
necessary to first enter the number that you received just for WorldMail and
one mailbox and then the additional licenses.

Greg Hickel
ghickel at crowderscoggins dot com


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mathew Lincoln <is at harrisrothenberg dot com>
> To: Subscribers of WorldMail <worldmail at lists.pensive dot org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 8:23 AM
> Subject: Copying WorldMail from one NT to another
>
>
> > My company is trying to set up a new NT Workstation computer as the
email
> > server. We have WorldMail running on an NT Server within our network (it
> > was dialing an outside ISP to get the email), and would like to copy all
> > the mailboxes and other settings from the NT Server to our new computer.
> We
> > installed WorldMail on the new one. Then we tried copying all the
> necessary
> > folders, and everything in the Registry that looked like it had
something
> > to do with WorldMail. We found that WorldMail will not start up when we
> > start the computer. We have to start everything manually in order to see
> > the mailboxes, etc.
> >
> > We thought it had something to do with the error that Gregory Hickel
> > described, but Henry Avetisyan's message makes that seem unlikely.
> >
> > Any suggestions would be most appreciated.
> >
> >
> > Mathew Lincoln
> > Harris, Rothenberg Intl.
> >
>


Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:28:57 -0400
From: Jim Sullivan <jsullivan at onecallmedical dot com>
Subject: Worldmail user restriction problem

Thank You Henry for your previous response (NIBL and error messages now
doing fine :)


My next problem my be out of the scope of Worldmail, but here it goes...

MS Exchange Server allows the administrator to turn off the ability of
individual users from receiving Internet mail and/or attachments while
maintaining Intranet email communications.  I need to do this for a group
of users within my organization while keeping them in the same domain.  Is
there a way to do this via Worldmail 2.0?

Any hints, clues, or divine insight would be appreciated!




Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:00:54 -0700
From: Henry Avetisyan <henry at jps dot net>
Subject: Re: Copying WorldMail from one NT to another

If you are able to start up the services manually then it they must be
configured properly. If the services are set to startup automatically,
then they must report any errors in the Event Viewer why it didn't start
- do you have any errors in the Event Viewer?

Also, when copying files and registry settings from another machine to
another, you need to be careful about the server names. If the machine
names are the same, then there shouldn't be any problems, but you will
have problems when the machine names are different, unless when
importing the registry settings you replaced the old server name with
the new server name.

Henry


Mathew Lincoln wrote:
> 
> My company is trying to set up a new NT Workstation computer as the email
> server. We have WorldMail running on an NT Server within our network (it
> was dialing an outside ISP to get the email), and would like to copy all
> the mailboxes and other settings from the NT Server to our new computer. We
> installed WorldMail on the new one. Then we tried copying all the necessary
> folders, and everything in the Registry that looked like it had something
> to do with WorldMail. We found that WorldMail will not start up when we
> start the computer. We have to start everything manually in order to see
> the mailboxes, etc.
> 
> We thought it had something to do with the error that Gregory Hickel
> described, but Henry Avetisyan's message makes that seem unlikely.
> 
> Any suggestions would be most appreciated.
> 
> Mathew Lincoln
> Harris, Rothenberg Intl.

Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:03:09 -0700
From: Henry Avetisyan <henry at jps dot net>
Subject: Re: Worldmail user restriction problem

Unfortunately there is no way to accomplish what you are trying to do in
WorldMail. The only option you have is to disable a user, but then that
user will not be able to receive any mail nor be able to login.

Henry

Jim Sullivan wrote:
> 
> Thank You Henry for your previous response (NIBL and error messages now
> doing fine :)
> 
> My next problem my be out of the scope of Worldmail, but here it goes...
> 
> MS Exchange Server allows the administrator to turn off the ability of
> individual users from receiving Internet mail and/or attachments while
> maintaining Intranet email communications.  I need to do this for a group
> of users within my organization while keeping them in the same domain.  Is
> there a way to do this via Worldmail 2.0?
> 
> Any hints, clues, or divine insight would be appreciated!

Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:07:55 -0400
From: Jim Sullivan <jsullivan at onecallmedical dot com>
Subject: Here is another interesting problem regarding the IMS.

Lets see who might have an answer to this one.   Good story anyway...


Several days ago I received the customary user complaint ("My email is not 
working"), and started to investigate the Worldmail server status. I ran 
the management console remotely and found the IMS service stopped. So I 
restarted the service and all were happy.  I thought to myself, the next 
time I'm in the server room I'd better check the logs to see what 
happened.  Five minutes go by and I get another "user notification" (<<< 
politically correct term for my weekly net status report).  This time I go 
straight to the NT Worldmail 2.0 server and find a dear old DrWatson 
message for IMS (Internet mail service).  I thought to myself that this 
system has been stable for a long time, why would IMS crash but leave all 
remaining services intact?
(insert possible answer #1 here :)

So I did what any sys admin would do.  Noted the logs and rebooted in an 
attempt stabilize the system.  Two minutes after rebooting the crash occurs 
again.  Oh sh_!, this is going to be a l o n g  night!  It was with good 
fortune, that one of the primary users having problems contacted me that 
very moment to give me another "user notification".  I then asked the user 
to exit their Eudora client.  While they did this I restarted the 
IMS.  Next I had the user retry logging into the server.  As soon as they 
hit the return key on the Eudora password validation window the IMS service 
shut down again with a DrWatson message.  I restarted the IMS service once 
again.  I let all other users into the system except the one user that 
appeared to have the most troubles.  The system stayed up and stable for 
over two hours.  Then I tried the same guinea pig user again.  BAM! The IMS 
service dies again!    -You should be saying to yourself "how can a user 
logging into the Worldmail server crash IMS?".
(insert possible answer #2 here :)

To make a long story shorter... I found that the user's mailbox .DAT file 
was corrupted.  I removed all of the files from the User's mailbox and then 
let the user logon to the server.  No more problems for the user (except 
for the fact that he would like his old messages back in his mailbox.  Does 
anyone know how to insert files back into a mailbox folder without 
corrupting the .DAT file?
(insert possible answer #3 here :)

The END
Thanks again!


Jim Sullivan
One Call Medical, Inc.

Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 22:44:23 -0500
From: "John K. Goodwin" <jgoodwin at imworth dot com>
Subject: Eudora 4.2 clients experience repeated mfc42.dll errors after

Does anyone know what we can do?  We have about 45 IMAP mailboxes and only 
a few personal mailboxes.  The In, Out, and Trash mailboxes are not real full.

Please help.  This all happened after installing WorldMail.  Before, we 
were using an outside ISP set up as pop3.

All users have at least 64 MB Ram.  The errors are occuring the most on a 
new Dell 128 MB Ram machine.

John



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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:10:59 -0400
From: "Al Musella, DPM" <musella at virtualtrials dot com>
Subject: Re: Eudora 4.2 clients experience repeated mfc42.dll errors

  Probably a conflict with the version of mfc42.dll. Try reinstalling eudora.


At 10:44 PM 7/15/99 -0500, John K. Goodwin wrote:
>Does anyone know what we can do?  We have about 45 IMAP mailboxes and only 
>a few personal mailboxes.  The In, Out, and Trash mailboxes are not real full.
>
>Please help.  This all happened after installing WorldMail.  Before, we 
>were using an outside ISP set up as pop3.
>
>All users have at least 64 MB Ram.  The errors are occuring the most on a 
>new Dell 128 MB Ram machine.
>
>John



Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 11:07:19 -0700
From: Henry Avetisyan <henry at jps dot net>
Subject: Re: Here is another interesting problem regarding the IMS.

Here are some possible answers :)

a) All the services are independent of each other. Just because there
was a crash in the IMS, it doesn't mean your SMTP server should stop
processing mail or your directory server stop processing LDAP requests. 

b) When a single user logs in, a new thread is created to handle that
connection. If some abnormal operation takes place, it most cases it
will cause the thread to be abnormally terminated (the user just loses
the connection to the server), or if it's more serious and the message
store server doesn't handle the error properly it will crash.
Unfortunately, when one of the threads crashes, it will crash the whole
server. And this is where you make a backup of the corrupted mailbox.dat
and submit it to the developers so they can take a look at it and fix
the problem. Are you sure it was a corrupted mailbox.dat or a just a
corrupted message that the user was trying to read?

c) I'll go back to point b - to make sure that if you had a corrupted
mailbox.dat or just a corrupted message? It is not recommended to
manually edit the mailbox.dat file. If it's corrupted, then the best
thing to do is make sure the user is logged out, delete the mailbox.dat
file and the message store server will create the mailbox.dat again when
the user logs in. To recover the old messages, just rename them from
*.msg to *.new and when the user logs in, the message store server will
treat them as new messages and allow the user to see them again. Make
sure not to rename the *.msg files that already exist in the mailbox.dat
file.

Henry

Jim Sullivan wrote:
> 
> Lets see who might have an answer to this one.   Good story anyway...
> 
> Several days ago I received the customary user complaint ("My email is not
> working"), and started to investigate the Worldmail server status. I ran
> the management console remotely and found the IMS service stopped. So I
> restarted the service and all were happy.  I thought to myself, the next
> time I'm in the server room I'd better check the logs to see what
> happened.  Five minutes go by and I get another "user notification" (<<<
> politically correct term for my weekly net status report).  This time I go
> straight to the NT Worldmail 2.0 server and find a dear old DrWatson
> message for IMS (Internet mail service).  I thought to myself that this
> system has been stable for a long time, why would IMS crash but leave all
> remaining services intact?
> (insert possible answer #1 here :)
> 
> So I did what any sys admin would do.  Noted the logs and rebooted in an
> attempt stabilize the system.  Two minutes after rebooting the crash occurs
> again.  Oh sh_!, this is going to be a l o n g  night!  It was with good
> fortune, that one of the primary users having problems contacted me that
> very moment to give me another "user notification".  I then asked the user
> to exit their Eudora client.  While they did this I restarted the
> IMS.  Next I had the user retry logging into the server.  As soon as they
> hit the return key on the Eudora password validation window the IMS service
> shut down again with a DrWatson message.  I restarted the IMS service once
> again.  I let all other users into the system except the one user that
> appeared to have the most troubles.  The system stayed up and stable for
> over two hours.  Then I tried the same guinea pig user again.  BAM! The IMS
> service dies again!    -You should be saying to yourself "how can a user
> logging into the Worldmail server crash IMS?".
> (insert possible answer #2 here :)
> 
> To make a long story shorter... I found that the user's mailbox .DAT file
> was corrupted.  I removed all of the files from the User's mailbox and then
> let the user logon to the server.  No more problems for the user (except
> for the fact that he would like his old messages back in his mailbox.  Does
> anyone know how to insert files back into a mailbox folder without
> corrupting the .DAT file?
> (insert possible answer #3 here :)
> 
> The END
> Thanks again!
> 
> Jim Sullivan
> One Call Medical, Inc.