Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 12:39:49 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: help: how to change 'post priviledges' for multiple subcribers
At 09:58 -0700 5/7/99, Timo Ochmann wrote:
>now that i want to change it to a subscription list i would like all the
>subscribers to have NO posting privs and only a selected few with posting
>rights. my question: how do i accomplish this switch over most efficiently?
This topic is incidently mentioned in the book entitled AppleScript
for the Internet: Visual QuickStart Guide by Ethan Wilde. 1998.
$17.95.
<http://www.peachpit.com/books/catalog/K5816.html>
See Converting all list subscribers to non-posting on page 282 :-)
It is also mentioned in the AutoShare documentation in the Moderators
section: "The SetAllSubscribersToNoPost2 script [sample] illustrates
a hidden high-speed trick of the Subscribe AppleScript command: when
the e-mail address is @, the [post] option changes are applied to all
subscriber entries!".
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 16:37:38 -0500
From: Randy Phillips <phillips at finan dot com>
Subject: Weird Line Breaks in Announcements
Hi,
Whenever I send out an announcement to any of my lists I get weird line
breaks in the e-mail. Sometime it will break right in the middle of a
word. Has anyone else experienced this? If so, what about a fix?
--
Randy Phillips, Web Manager/Developer
Finan Publishing
8730 Big Bend Blvd.
St. Louis, Mo. 63119
314-961-6644
Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 09:57:59 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Weird Line Breaks in Announcements
At 16:37 -0500 5/7/99, Randy Phillips wrote:
>Whenever I send out an announcement to any of my lists I get weird line
>breaks in the e-mail. Sometime it will break right in the middle of a
>word. Has anyone else experienced this? If so, what about a fix?
I would have to see a message file from the Filed Mail folder, but it
is my guess that word-wrapped is turned off when sending the mail. In
the Admin after Command-J, you can also add the letter P to the Misc
Stuff field, which pre-formats the message file's body lines to the
number of characters defined in the Line Format field above. As you
are the only one posting to the list, you are probably better off
adjusting your e-mail client software to send messages word-wrapped,
which is the recommended e-mail policy anyway.
Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 22:15:53 +0100
From: Bill Bedford <billbpm at mousa.demon.co dot uk>
Subject: Bad subscription messages
I have a number of people who try to subscribe, or more frustatingly
unsubscribe, using browsers. Most of the time the message is formated and
it is bounced by Autoshare as an 'Invalid command'. Counld a small note be
added to this message suggesting that they resubmit their command using a
plain text message?
Bill Bedford
Owner Brit_Rail-L mailto://autoshare at mousa.demon.co dot uk
For the history of Railways in Britain.
Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 12:01:08 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Bad subscription messages
At 22:15 +0100 5/8/99, Bill Bedford wrote:
>I have a number of people who try to subscribe, or more frustatingly
>unsubscribe, using browsers. Most of the time the message is formated and
>it is bounced by Autoshare as an 'Invalid command'. Counld a small note be
>added to this message suggesting that they resubmit their command using a
>plain text message?
The process extender sample entitled 'Body Filter' of type Before
Processing may be of some help to you. In its present form it scans
the first ten lines of the body of a list contribution for the string
'<HEAD>', and if found the message file is deleted and a special
message is created and returned to the sender with the note from the
listmaster that "Sorry, your message to <list> was HTML formatted".
The sample can be modified to the need that you bring up. You can
target list server command messages only, and if any body line begins
with the string 'Content-Type: ', you can be pretty sure that the
message is not a plain text message. (The sample can also be modified
to filter on so-called four-letter words, but that's a different
story.)
A more direct approach is to look for 'text/plain' in the
Content-Type field in the RFC header, in which case it is most likely
a plain text message. AutoShare at this time does not pass this field
to process extenders though.
Or you can create a filter entitled 'autoshare' and enter a line such
as 'multipart/alternative;', which will kill many messages that are
not plain text, but you would need a process extender of type Filter
to return a message to the sender.
To answer your question directly: yes, AutoShare may one day support
it directly as a built-in feature.
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 09:07:09 -0500
From: Randy Phillips <phillips at finan dot com>
Subject: Re: Weird Line Breaks in Announcements
> Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 09:57:59 -0700
> From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
> Reply-To: AutoShare-Talk at frutiger.staffs.ac dot uk (Subscribers of AutoShare-Talk)
> Subject: Re: Weird Line Breaks in Announcements
>
> At 16:37 -0500 5/7/99, Randy Phillips wrote:
>
> >Whenever I send out an announcement to any of my lists I get weird line
> >breaks in the e-mail. Sometime it will break right in the middle of a
> >word. Has anyone else experienced this? If so, what about a fix?
>
> I would have to see a message file from the Filed Mail folder, but it
> is my guess that word-wrapped is turned off when sending the mail. In
> the Admin after Command-J, you can also add the letter P to the Misc
> Stuff field, which pre-formats the message file's body lines to the
> number of characters defined in the Line Format field above. As you
> are the only one posting to the list, you are probably better off
> adjusting your e-mail client software to send messages word-wrapped,
> which is the recommended e-mail policy anyway.
>
Thanks Mikael. Wrapping the text did the trick.
--
Randy Phillips, Web Manager/Developer
Finan Publishing
8730 Big Bend Blvd.
St. Louis, Mo. 63119
314-961-6644
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:27:22 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: The Unsub Command Not Working
At 3:19 PM -0500 on 5/5/99, Chuck Boody wrote:
> Reply to: Re: The Unsub Command Not Working
> Mikael,
>
> Could you amplify the statement below a bit? It's been alluded to in my
>cursory readings of update info and documents, but I'm not really clear
>about it. Does this imply that we will need to have a folder for each
>command and then appropriately named text files within those folders?
>And, what is "appropriately names?" Is this all covered in the
>documentation (which I haven't been a good person about reading lately)?
>I've noted that you have already made the change so I assume that I could
>update my site now and be prepared for the future...right?
>
> (Am I the only one who works by "if it ain't broke don't fix it" ??? :-> )
>
That's how I generally work too (unless I'm looking for new features).
Will my lists be broken at some point in the future? How long will both
methods be supported?
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 21:35:23 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Subject: Auto-Share Bouncing Bounces
Autoshare, instead of processing bounces, is bouncing them. The
bounces are sent to a <list>-errors address.
have I set something wrong?
> Sorry. The user of the recipient address is not valid.
> 550 <qpopper-errors at lists.pensive dot org>... User unknown
> Please contact listmaster at lists.pensive dot org
I'm using AutoShare 3.1
--
Randall Gellens Randy at Pensive dot Org
---------------------- (randomly-selected tag) ---------------------
Procedures! Of course, that's what you'd use with a *sophisticated*
machine like this. Procedures. --'Ceaser Smith' in _Hot_Millions_
Subject: Problems with multiple domains
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 12:35:25 -0400
From: David Shauger <dave at tinymind dot com>
I cannot figure out what is wrong, but I can't get things to work
correctly with Autoshare. If I hand put in people using the admin app
everything is fine, but if I try to subscribe a member via email or a web
page I get the following error:
Sorry. The user of the recipient address is not valid.
550 <autoshare at tinymind dot com>... User unknown
Please contact webmaster at tinymind dot com
Return-Path: <dave at mediadrop dot com>
Received: from tinymind.com (209.51.135.194) by mail.tinymind.com with
SMTP
(Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.2.2); Mon, 10 May 1999 20:46:20 -0400
Subject:
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 20:45:25 -0400
x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998
From: David Tester <dave at mediadrop dot com>
To: "TinyMind Polymedia Listserver" <autoshare at tinymind dot com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Message-ID: <1285738917-53118377 at mail.tinymind dot com>
sub tinyweb-list David Tester
I have no idea what could be wrong and have gone over all the
documentation for errors several times.
Thanks for any ideas!
-----====================-----
David Shauger
Vice President
Tiny Mind Polymedia
Graphic Workflow Consulting
404 886-7603 - Office
404 628-8111 - Pager
50 Barrett Parkway
PMB 1200-358
Marietta Georgia 30066
http://www.tinymind.com/
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Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 23:56:22 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Auto-Share Bouncing Bounces
At 21:35 -0700 5/10/99, Randall Gellens wrote:
>Autoshare, instead of processing bounces, is bouncing them. The
>bounces are sent to a <list>-errors address.
>
>have I set something wrong?
It may be that you haven't told AutoShare to use the <list>-errors
address for bounces by adding the letter q to the list's List Stuff
field.
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 01:51:47 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Mac OS 8.6
I installed 8.6 last night, and it's looking fine so far.
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:24:23 +0100
From: Bill Bedford <billbpm at mousa.demon.co dot uk>
Subject: Re: Bad subscription messages
At 12:01 pm -0700 9/5/99, Mikael Hansen wrote:
>At 22:15 +0100 5/8/99, Bill Bedford wrote:
>
>>I have a number of people who try to subscribe, or more frustatingly
>>unsubscribe, using browsers. Most of the time the message is formated and
>>it is bounced by Autoshare as an 'Invalid command'. Counld a small note be
>>added to this message suggesting that they resubmit their command using a
>>plain text message?
>
>The process extender sample entitled 'Body Filter' of type Before
>Processing may be of some help to you. In its present form it scans
>the first ten lines of the body of a list contribution for the string
>'<HEAD>', and if found the message file is deleted and a special
>message is created and returned to the sender with the note from the
>listmaster that "Sorry, your message to <list> was HTML formatted".
>
Tried this -- It doesn't work with messages routed to the autoshare@
account. Autoshare continues to process the message so you get a curtailed
reply.
>
>Or you can create a filter entitled 'autoshare' and enter a line such
>as 'multipart/alternative;', which will kill many messages that are
>not plain text, but you would need a process extender of type Filter
>to return a message to the sender.
This doesn't work either -- the filter only works on the basic 5 fields.
>To answer your question directly: yes, AutoShare may one day support
>it directly as a built-in feature.
Since Autoshare filters these messages anyway, I thought the easist
approach would be to extent the reply given, eg
'Invalid autoshare command - This
If you are trying to subscribe or unsubscribe please resubmit your command
in a plain text message without attachments.'
Or something like that
Bill Bedford
Owner Brit_Rail-L mailto://autoshare at mousa.demon.co dot uk
For the history of Railways in Britain.
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:23:20 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: AutoShare 3.1.1b4
3.1.1b4 has been uploaded to
<ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/>
+Fixed document-specific support for command mail-backs
+Tested with Mac OS 8.6
+Fixed Errors-To header repeating part of domain name
+Added alert for invalid commands caused by styled text;
use '1100 31' in the optional language files;
suppress alert by adding the letter u in Misc Stuff
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:33:29 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Bad subscription messages
At 11:24 +0100 5/12/99, Bill Bedford wrote:
>At 12:01 pm -0700 9/5/99, Mikael Hansen wrote:
>
> >To answer your question directly: yes, AutoShare may one day support
> >it directly as a built-in feature.
Some days come sooner than others. See 3.1.1b4.
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:11:01 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare 3.1.1b4
At 12:23 PM -0700 on 5/12/99, Mikael Hansen wrote:
> 3.1.1b4 has been uploaded to
> <ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/>
>
> +Fixed document-specific support for command mail-backs
> +Tested with Mac OS 8.6
> +Fixed Errors-To header repeating part of domain name
> +Added alert for invalid commands caused by styled text;
> use '1100 31' in the optional language files;
> suppress alert by adding the letter u in Misc Stuff
>
>
Also mirrored at
http://pascal-central.com/autoshare/beta
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Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 22:33:19 -0700
From: Randall Gellens <randy at pensive dot org>
Subject: Re: Auto-Share Bouncing Bounces
At 11:56 PM -0700 5/11/99, Mikael Hansen wrote:
>At 21:35 -0700 5/10/99, Randall Gellens wrote:
>
>>Autoshare, instead of processing bounces, is bouncing them. The
>>bounces are sent to a <list>-errors address.
>>
>>have I set something wrong?
>
>It may be that you haven't told AutoShare to use the <list>-errors
>address for bounces by adding the letter q to the list's List Stuff
>field.
List Stuff does have 'q' in it. If it didn't, wouldn't Auto Share
not use the <list>-errors address as MAIL FROM? It is, which is why
bounces are going to that address.
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:25:16 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Auto-Share Bouncing Bounces
Last night I sent Randall a version to test. With a <list>-errors
bounce address configuration, AutoShare did not move bounces from the
Filed Mail folder to the Bounce folder. Will upload following
Randall's feedback.
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 12:11:50 -0700
From: Matthew Hill <happytwo at milepost1 dot com>
Subject: Applscript question
Hi
Is there a way to pull the email address of the list owner in an apple script?
Matthew
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 13:36:59 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Applscript question
At 12:11 -0700 5/15/99, Matthew Hill wrote:
>Is there a way to pull the email address of the list owner in an apple script?
tell application "AutoShare"
set listOwner to Listmaster Email of (GetList Options {List:"fun-l"})
end tell
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:03:14 +0200
From: Christoph Reichenberger <chrei at unisoft.co dot at>
Subject: Error Message "not a valid list"
Hi there,
due to some reasons we had to change the names of our lists,
in fact we changed the underscores to minus signs
(e.g. voodoo_list -> voodoo-list ).
The problem is now that there is a lot of old packages
out there with the documentation mentioning the wrong
list names. Now if someone wants to subscribe to the list
he gets the following error message back:
>Your subscription has been received pertaining to the following list:
>
>voodoo_list
>voodoo_list is not a valid list
>
Is there a way to customize this error message (like the welcome
messages, ...) by providing a file in the "Docs" folder in the Autoshare
folder to inform the potential subscriber that he should try again with the
minus instead the underscore?
Yes, we already had one user who figured it out himself by using
the listserver commands, but many probably just resign.
Thanks for any hints.
Christoph Reichenberger
---------------------------------------------------
Christoph Reichenberger Tel: +43-7236-3338-82
UNI SOFTWARE PLUS GMBH Fax: +43-7236-3338-30
Softwarepark Hagenberg, mailto:chrei at unisoft.co dot at
A-4232 Hagenberg, Austria http://www.unisoft.co.at
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:43:24 -0500
From: Paul DuBois <paul at snake dot net>
Subject: The word review is a list server command ???
Got this message from one of my subscribers:
>Paul,
>I just tried to post to the list and got this message. Just thought I'd
>let you know.
>
>************************************************************
>ATTENTION PLEASE
>Sorry. Your message did NOT get posted or forwarded
>The word review is a list server command
>A list server command must be sent to the list server address
>The list server address is autoshare at snake dot net
>************************************************************
I asked him for a copy of the message, and this is what he sent me:
>Message-ID: <37417440.A2AE5E16 at santel dot net>
>Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 09:08:00 -0500
>From: XXXX XXXX <XXXXX at santel dot net>
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I)
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>To: Subscribers of NORTHERN-LEAGUE <NORTHERN-LEAGUE at snake dot net>
>Subject: Veterans
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>
>Who has the other veteran spots in Duluth (Giran, Mulligan, Lewis) and
>Sioux City (Tilmon, Neff)? Are these spots still open? Also, I see
>where St. Paul signed LHP Adam West.
>Could this be... BATMAN?
He is on the subscriber list. It's not clear to me why autoshare
is complaining about the word "review"... ??? Other subscribers have
been posting all along.
AutoShare 3.0.4
Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b3
The autoshare log says:
>ˆ ‡contribution
>ˆ „NORTHERN-LEAGUE
>ˆ Wed, 19 May 1999 08:15:51 NORTHERN-LEAGUE.m at snake dot net XXXXX at santel dot net
>veterans
--
Paul DuBois, paul at snake dot net
Northern League Chronicles: http://www.snake.net/nl/
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 23:25:32 +0100
From: James Berriman <james at acoustic.demon.co dot uk>
Subject: Re: The word review is a list server command ???
At 16:43 +0100 19/5/1999, Paul DuBois wrote:
>Got this message from one of my subscribers:
>>Who has the other veteran spots in Duluth (Giran, Mulligan, Lewis) and
>>Sioux City (Tilmon, Neff)? Are these spots still open? Also, I see
>>where St. Paul signed LHP Adam West.
>>Could this be... BATMAN?
AutoShare treats "who" as an alternative for the "review" command. As the
first line of the message begins with "Who", the "review" command filter
was triggered.
It would certainly make more sense to the subscriber if the AutoShare
response said:
>The word 'who' is a list server command
( :-]) James
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:29:52 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Error Message "not a valid list"
At 13:03 +0200 5/19/99, Christoph Reichenberger wrote:
> >Your subscription has been received pertaining to the following list:
> >
> >voodoo_list
> >voodoo_list is not a valid list
> >
>
>Is there a way to customize this error message (like the welcome
>messages, ...) by providing a file in the "Docs" folder in the Autoshare
>folder to inform the potential subscriber that he should try again with the
>minus instead the underscore?
What happens if you create a voodoo_list document in the
Documents:autoshare:sub folder?
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 20:00:00 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: The word review is a list server command ???
At 23:25 +0100 5/19/99, James Berriman wrote:
>AutoShare treats "who" as an alternative for the "review" command. As the
>first line of the message begins with "Who", the "review" command filter
>was triggered.
>
>It would certainly make more sense to the subscriber if the AutoShare
>response said:
>
> >The word 'who' is a list server command
I have added this improvement to the next version.
Subject: Web archive list incomplete
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 14:59:53 -0400
From: Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
Is there any way to add missing archive files to the web index? Only 8 of
24 archives (not counting current) are showing in the list. I guess they
are the ones created after the last update to the way AutoShare does
archives, in January 99, I think.
Charles L. Martin
clmartin at theOmbudsman dot com
http://www.theOmbudsman.com/Martin_Law/
Alice: ³The King seems so prejudiced.²
King: ³Thank you Alice. That¹s what makes me so eminently qualified to =
be
Judge.²
Alice in Wonderland, Lewis Carroll
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 23:57:37 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: AutoShare 4.0b5
4.0b5 has been uploaded to
<ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/>
Well, the four-year birthday of the 1.0 release isn't far away, so
the next version might as well be named 4.0. As I like to throw in a
little something special for major versions, 4.0b5 includes built-in
CGI handling of subscriber administration when used with Mac OS web
server software such as the $10 NetPresenz. Rename the AutoShare
server application to AutoShare.CGI and place it in a web server
supported folder. In your web browser, enter
http://<domain>/[path/]AutoShare.CGI and take it from there.
At 14:59 -0400 5/20/99, Charles L. Martin wrote:
>Is there any way to add missing archive files to the web index? Only 8 of
>24 archives (not counting current) are showing in the list. I guess they
>are the ones created after the last update to the way AutoShare does
>archives, in January 99, I think.
Yes, it is now possible, provided that you have configured a path to
a folder for automated web archives, that the older standard html
archives are available and that your archives setting is at html.
Place the letter V in the Admin's Misc Stuff field, and missing web
archives will be created the next time AutoShare starts up. Already
created web archive files will not be overwritten.
At 23:25 +0100 5/19/99, James Berriman wrote:
>It would certainly make more sense to the subscriber if the AutoShare
>response said:
>
> >The word 'who' is a list server command
This improvement has been added.
At 21:35 -0700 5/10/99, Randall Gellens wrote:
>Autoshare, instead of processing bounces, is bouncing them. The
>bounces are sent to a <list>-errors address.
This has been taken care of.
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:04:15 +0100
From: James Berriman <james at acoustic.demon.co dot uk>
Subject: AutoShare 4.0b5 UK mirror
At 07:57 +0100 21/5/1999, Mikael Hansen wrote:
>4.0b5 has been uploaded to
> <ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/>
Also at <http://www.dcl.co.uk/MacOS/email/autoshare/AutoShare4.0b5.sit.bin>
( :-]) James
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 21:43:54 -0700
From: Glenn Gutierrez <kernelg at home dot com>
Subject: Subscriber address in list email?
Hi all,
Is there a way to insert each recipient's email address in list
messages? Sorry if this has been covered, but I'm not sure what to look
for in the archives.
Why: I'm setting up a clickable URL so people can unsub without too
much hassle. The foolproof way is to lead people to a web form where
they can enter their email address and click send, but I'd like to feed
the subscriber's address automatically (with an SSI interpreting a
query string in the URL), if possible.
Danke!
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 12:42:43 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Subscriber address in list email?
At 21:43 -0700 5/22/99, Glenn Gutierrez wrote:
>Is there a way to insert each recipient's email address in list
>messages?
The default response is a simple no, because it would generate a lot
more server processing and network traffic. Potential solutions fall
within two categories: mail server and list server.
Let's begin with the mail server, e.g. EIMS 2.x (SIMS folks, feel
free to speak up). A major speed enhancement in EIMS 2.x (versus 1.x)
is that all mail list recipients to a given domain require only one
outgoing mail. The downside is that you cannot force this to
optionally be one outgoing mail per recipient. And even if you could,
there is no way to tell a filter plug-in to insert a URL in a given
RFC field. And even if it was possible, few know how to write a
plug-in.
As far as the list server is concerned, AutoShare also doesn't
directly support individual messages, likewise with speed being the
reason. But it doesn't stop here though, as a little AppleScript goes
a long way.
Once AutoShare has processed a list contribution message file,
readily available are both the message file and the mailing list
file. Picture cycling though the addresses in the mailing list
addresses and for each of those make a copy of the message file
having the SMTP envelope recipient and a given optional RFC field
updated. It is not that difficult when using the AutoShare
AppleScript commands. The SetRes command can update the SMTP envelope
recipient of the copied message file to the given mailing list
subscriber address, and the SetRFC command can create the URL for the
needed RFC field.
I would recommend having the regular processed list contribution
message file go into a dedicated Folder Action enabled folder (having
an "on adding folder items to this_folder after receiving
added_items" handler) and then move AppleScript created and processed
subscriber-specific files into the Incoming Mail folder.
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 13:22:21 -0700
From: Camelot Administrator <camelot.admin at lmco dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare 4.0b5
At 11:57 PM -0700 on 5/20/99, Mikael Hansen wrote:
> 4.0b5 has been uploaded to
> <ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/>
>
Also mirrored at http://pascal-central.com/autoshare/beta.
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Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 07:44:02 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Topic contributions
As release time is approaching rapidly, I'd like to post a request
for your contributions on topics that have your particular interest
for one reason or another. HTML is preferred, but I can convert
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Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 12:40:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: AutoShare and FMP
On Tue, 25 May 1999, Eric Mings wrote:
> How did I get unsubscribed from the list?
James would have to respond to that, but you're fine now.
> I was wondering about an issue. I had previously played a little with
> using autoshare in combination with FMP. I am thinking about a project
> that I would like to do in which I would like interaction with the
> database could occur exclusively via email. I am wondering if users
> could replace the data in a field of the database with the content a
> message sent which would find the correct record to edit based upon the
> subject of the message. Possible?
It can most likely be done using process extenders that often know the
path of the current message file. It takes some AppleScript playing around
with though.
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:36:14 +0900
From: "Richard M. Pavonarius" <richard at global-commons.co dot jp>
Subject: Tanned, rested and ready to beta test
Until yesterday I haven't been paying attention to the improvements to
Autoshare since 2.2. Man, it does everything but walk the frikkin' dog! I'm
running 4.0b5 on a 68k machine.
I have a problem with mailback. When I reply to a message, Eudora puts in
the first line:
At 10:11 AM +0000 5/25/99, AutoShare Listserver wrote:
Autoshare replies that "At" isn't a valid command. I realize the solution is
to remove that first line, but that's not going to be obvious to the people
who are going to use the mailing list (K-12 teachers, the same people who
can't figure out how to use a filmstrip projector.)
Also, I noticed in the confirm message I received after subscribing to
autoshare-talk that it list the process time:
> autoshare-talk
> Digest has been turned on for your subscription
> Ack has been turned on for your subscription
> Your subscription has been accepted
> You have been subscribed as richard at global-commons.co dot jp
--> Process time was 22.03 seconds
How do I get that to show up?
Rich
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Richard M. Pavonarius, Global Commons, Inc., Tokyo
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 19:47:23 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Tanned, rested and ready to beta test
At 09:36 +0900 5/26/99, Richard M. Pavonarius wrote:
>Man, it does everything but walk the frikkin' dog!
:-)
>I have a problem with mailback. When I reply to a message, Eudora puts in
>the first line:
>
>At 10:11 AM +0000 5/25/99, AutoShare Listserver wrote:
>
>Autoshare replies that "At" isn't a valid command. I realize the solution is
>to remove that first line, but that's not going to be obvious to the people
>who are going to use the mailing list (K-12 teachers, the same people who
>can't figure out how to use a filmstrip projector.)
I believe the out-of-the-box 'Reply to all' setting in Eudora is
'When option key is down' rather than 'By default', so I trust it has
been changed on all the teachers' Macs. You may want to try to switch
to having mail-backs to the subject field (after Control-J in the
Admin, add the letter J to the Misc Stuff field).
>Also, I noticed in the confirm message I received after subscribing to
>autoshare-talk that it list the process time:
>How do I get that to show up?
After Control-J in the Admin, see Process Time towards the left.
Subject: Setting up Web-page subscription form
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 11:57:43 +0100
From: Jed <jed at psy.herts.ac dot uk>
Hi.,
We are having probs. setting up a web page that allows users to subscribe
to an autoshare list. The form sends user entered info to a WebTen cgi
which then relays this appropriately to our e-mail server (different
Mac). Once the e-mailer has this info it sends it on to autoshare (same
Mac as e-mailer) which subscribes them to the requested list.
The prob. is that the info they enter on the web page may not be exactly
the same as sent by their e-mailer when messages are sent to the list
server. I can't find anyway of controlling the e-mail address and user
name from the WebTen cgi such that it will always match the info sent
from their e-mailer. This results in users being notified that they have
subscribed Ok but when sending e-mails to the list server their info does
not match and are told that they are not subscribed. Does anyone know of
a way round this using a WebTen web server, AIMS 1.11 and Autoshare. If
so I'll buy them a drink!!
Jed.
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:10:58 -0700
From: Matthew Hill <happytwo at milepost1 dot com>
Subject: Account questions
Hi
Not sure if this is all AutoShare or not.
First problem one of the list when sending to <list-name>-review. Only
returns the number of subscribers. Works when send command in an email.
Second problem. Using SIMS. When sending message to <list-name>-review
server responds rejected unknown user. When setting up the account get
an error -50. Also have unknown user set up. Could the account name be
to long?
Thanks
Matthew
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:53:52 +0100
From: James Berriman <james at acoustic.demon.co dot uk>
Subject: Re: Setting up Web-page subscription form
At 11:57 +0100 26/5/1999, Jed wrote:
>Hi.,
>
>We are having probs. setting up a web page that allows users to subscribe
>to an autoshare list. The form sends user entered info to a WebTen cgi
>which then relays this appropriately to our e-mail server (different
>Mac). Once the e-mailer has this info it sends it on to autoshare (same
>Mac as e-mailer) which subscribes them to the requested list.
>
>The prob. is that the info they enter on the web page may not be exactly
>the same as sent by their e-mailer when messages are sent to the list
>server. I can't find anyway of controlling the e-mail address and user
>name from the WebTen cgi such that it will always match the info sent
>from their e-mailer. This results in users being notified that they have
>subscribed Ok but when sending e-mails to the list server their info does
>not match and are told that they are not subscribed. Does anyone know of
>a way round this using a WebTen web server, AIMS 1.11 and Autoshare. If
>so I'll buy them a drink!!
>
>Jed.
You could set AutoShare to use the subscriber's From: address rather than
the envelope address. Under More Miscellaneous [cmd]-J in the admin, check
"RFC From (vs envelope)".
This does have the immediate drawback that it could cause problems for a
few existing subscribers whose envelope and From: address don't match. In
the long run, though, it should solve your problem.
( :-]) James
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 23:22:40 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Account questions
At 10:10 -0700 5/26/99, Matthew Hill wrote:
>First problem one of the list when sending to <list-name>-review. Only
>returns the number of subscribers. Works when send command in an email.
If I remember correctly, this sneaked into a version a while back,
but was fixed soon afterwards. Which version are you using? If the
4.0 beta, please drop me a mail with the specifics.
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 22:37:46 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: AutoShare 4.0b6
4.0b6 has been uploaded to
<ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/>
Some polish has been added to the built-in CGI request handling, and
the HTML documentation has been updated.
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:03:38 +0200
From: Christoph Reichenberger <chrei at unisoft.co dot at>
Subject: Re: Error Message "not a valid list"
>At 13:03 +0200 5/19/99, Christoph Reichenberger wrote:
>
>> >Your subscription has been received pertaining to the following list:
>> >
>> >voodoo_list
>> >voodoo_list is not a valid list
>> >
>>
>>Is there a way to customize this error message (like the welcome
>>messages, ...) by providing a file in the "Docs" folder in the Autoshare
>>folder to inform the potential subscriber that he should try again with the
>>minus instead the underscore?
>
>What happens if you create a voodoo_list document in the
>Documents:autoshare:sub folder?
Hm,
am I missing anything? I am running Autoshare 3.1
and don't have a Documents:autoshare:sub folder,
I just have a Docs:Autoshare folder with a couple of files in it
like:
Default
Get
...
and one special file for subscription of every list.
Docs:Autoshare:Sub.voodoo-list
....
I tried to create a new file
Docs:Autoshare:Sub.voodoo-list
hoping that this is what you meant, and it worked indeed.
Thanks for the help.
Final question: There's no way to automatically redirect a
subscription request to another list, i.e. if someone sends
a mail with "sub voodoo_list My Name" redirect it to a
subscription to voodoo-list ??? Just don't want to overlook anything ,-)
Thanks a lot
christoph
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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 05:58:06 -0700
From: Matthew Hill <happytwo at milepost1 dot com>
Subject: Re: Account questions
Yes i am using the beta version. It only happens with one list. Others
work correctly.
Mikael Hansen wrote:
>
> At 10:10 -0700 5/26/99, Matthew Hill wrote:
>
> >First problem one of the list when sending to <list-name>-review. Only
> >returns the number of subscribers. Works when send command in an email.
>
> If I remember correctly, this sneaked into a version a while back,
> but was fixed soon afterwards. Which version are you using? If the
> 4.0 beta, please drop me a mail with the specifics.
>
> ** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
> ** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/>
Date: 27 May 99 09:28:16 -0500
From: Chuck Boody <chuck_boody at hopkins.k12.mn dot us>
Subject: RE: AutoShare 4.0b6
Reply to: RE: AutoShare 4.0b6
Now available by mail.
Send mail to =
mailit at stumail.hopkins.k12.mn dot us
with
Autosharebeta
in the subject line.
Chuck Boody
Analyst/Programmer
ISD 270
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> <ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/Beta/>
>
>Some polish has been added to the built-in CGI request handling, and =
>the HTML documentation has been updated.
>
>
>** The AutoShare-Talk archives are at:
>** <http://frutiger.staffs.ac.uk/autoshare/archives/>
>
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Subject: HUGE Digest!
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 19:06:01 -0400
From: Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
I had written in the past that I could not get digests or logs to work.
After many attempts at getting it to work, I gave up. Yesterday, I
downloaded the new version and deleted my AutoShare preferences folder,
and tried again. I subscribed to a list using a second account and set it
to DIGEST. The next thing I knew, I got a 2 mb Digest! It included almost
a thousand messages! And, to make matters worse, it seems that the digest
was sent to everyone on the list! I don't think this is supposed to
happen, is it? I guess I should also mention that I got the log for the
first time ever. It didn't have anything in it, but I got one anyway.
Charles L. Martin
clmartin at theOmbudsman dot com
http://www.theOmbudsman.com/Martin_Law/
Alice: ³The King seems so prejudiced.²
King: ³Thank you Alice. That¹s what makes me so eminently qualified to =
be
Judge.²
Alice in Wonderland, Lewis Carroll
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 18:36:39 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Account questions
At 05:58 -0700 5/27/99, Matthew Hill wrote:
>Yes i am using the beta version. It only happens with one list. Others
>work correctly.
> > At 10:10 -0700 5/26/99, Matthew Hill wrote:
> >
> > >First problem one of the list when sending to <list-name>-review. Only
> > >returns the number of subscribers. Works when send command in an email.
When you say "send command in an email", is it then the regular
review command in a subscriber request or you using remote
administration by e-mail? When sending to <list-name>-review, the
message body is initially converted to a regular subscriber request
before the actual processing kicks off. Also, in the Admin, do Cmd-L,
select the list, click the List button, see the Review section in the
next window's middle, is it set to Suppress names?)
You may want to e-mail me (meh at dnai dot com) a StuffIt'ed copy of your
preferences file, and I'll look into it. I also need to know the list
name.
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 18:42:22 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: Error Message "not a valid list"
At 14:03 +0200 5/27/99, Christoph Reichenberger wrote:
>I tried to create a new file
> Docs:Autoshare:Sub.voodoo-list
>hoping that this is what you meant, and it worked indeed.
Good to hear :-)
>Final question: There's no way to automatically redirect a
>subscription request to another list, i.e. if someone sends
>a mail with "sub voodoo_list My Name" redirect it to a
>subscription to voodoo-list ??? Just don't want to overlook anything ,-)
Sorry, this is a blurry area not supported.
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 18:46:06 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: HUGE Digest!
At 19:06 -0400 5/27/99, Charles L. Martin wrote:
>I had written in the past that I could not get digests or logs to work.
It's either something corrupt or some funny date thing, I'd say.
>I don't think this is supposed to happen, is it?
No, I haven't encountered it before :-)
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 20:24:30 -0700
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: AutoShare 4.0 released
The 4.0 archive has been uploaded to
<ftp://ftp.dnai.com/users/m/meh/AutoShare/>
If you use StuffIt Expander, version 5.x is required.
I'll be gone for a few weeks, so it's up there now (including a
hidden Easter egg). Have a pleasant Memorial Day weekend :-)
Subject: Duplicate messages
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 23:41:17 -0400
From: Charles L. Martin <clmartin at theombudsman dot com>
I am getting complaints that list subscribers are getting quaduplicate
messages. This started right after I installed 4.0b5. I am not getting
this, myself, but I AM still getting messages through an account I set to
DIGEST. I just set it, and did get a digest yesterday, but, as I said in
my last message, the digest I got was huge, including all messages since
January 1! Any ideas, anyone?
Charles L. Martin
clmartin at theOmbudsman dot com
http://www.theOmbudsman.com/Martin_Law/
Alice: ³The King seems so prejudiced.²
King: ³Thank you Alice. That¹s what makes me so eminently qualified to =
be
Judge.²
Alice in Wonderland, Lewis Carroll
Subject: AutoShare 4.0 & multiple machines
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 12:40:14 -0400
From: David Shauger <dave at tinymind dot com>
Hello!
I have a WebStar 4.0 server running on one Mac and EIMS 2.2.2 running
with AutoShare on another. I have not been able to get the new 4.0 yet,
but I was planning on transitioning from EIMS to WebStar primarily so
people could have the web email feature and just to limit the apps and
administrations tools I needed to use.
So, is it possible to run Autoshare with WebStar Mail and if not is it
possible to use the new cgi functionality of 4.0 to talk to a mail server
running on a separate Mac?
Thanks!
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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:18:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mikael Hansen <meh at dnai dot com>
Subject: Re: AutoShare 4.0 & multiple machines
On Fri, 28 May 1999, David Shauger wrote:
> So, is it possible to run Autoshare with WebStar Mail and if not
Not as far as I know. But it is now a perfect time for you to request that
StarNine add EIMS-like account type support to WebStar Mail as WebStar 4.0
is currently in public beta. Point out account types such as 'mailing
list' and 'save as files' as well as the Incoming Mail folder.
> is it possible to use the new cgi functionality of 4.0 to talk to a
> mail server running on a separate Mac?
No, the feature is not targeted for that.